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Fictional Women Around the World: Regina Mills (Part 1) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and what comes.
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  Speaker 2: Stefane never told you your protection of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 1: Oh what a lovely day.
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  Speaker 3: Annie.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know why I think it's such a lovely day?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Please tell me, Samantha.
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  Speaker 5: Because I get to take over and talk about a
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  Speaker 5: fictional character.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I am so excited for you, to be honest,
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  Speaker 4: it's so fun.
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  Speaker 5: Walk on to this side, like I'm going to watch
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  Speaker 5: this show which I've watched so many times, especially the
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  Speaker 5: first like five seasons, four seasons, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: talk about a character that I love also hate. Ooh okay,
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  Speaker 5: yeah yeah, So yes, I am taking over for the
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  Speaker 5: fictional women around the world today because I was like.
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  Speaker 1: It's December, let's switch it up.
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  Speaker 5: And I decided because we were talking about Frozen and
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  Speaker 5: the many Disney characters and how it cut all overlaps
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  Speaker 5: and what that looks like because it's not just Disney
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  Speaker 5: but also just fairy tales in general, and so I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to talk about Once upon a Time or Once
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  Speaker 5: as I Saw It, which is a series I was
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  Speaker 5: an ABC series, which thank god was bought out by
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  Speaker 5: Disney because they got all the rights to talk about
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  Speaker 5: all the Disney characters, including Anna and Elsa from Frozen,
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  Speaker 5: which was one of the I think one of the
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  Speaker 5: more successful.
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  Speaker 1: Seasons m hm of this show.
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  Speaker 5: But we're not talking about her, Nope, nope, nope, or
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  Speaker 5: them in general. And we're not even talking about the
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  Speaker 5: main main character, who was Emma Swan played by Jennifer
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  Speaker 5: Morrison from that main doctor show House.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, House, thank you for translating for.
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  Speaker 5: Annie, is my older sister that translates for the younger
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  Speaker 5: or the daughter that translated for the older. That's fine,
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  Speaker 5: not fine, But yes, we're not talking about Emma Swan,
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  Speaker 5: who was the main character of this show. Well, I
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  Speaker 5: guess it's technically there's several, but she kind of is
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  Speaker 5: the is the show, I think, in that she is
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  Speaker 5: the catalyst and the heroine of the show. We are
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  Speaker 5: not talking about Henry Mills, who is her son, played
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  Speaker 5: by Jerry S. Gilmore, which, by the way, I get
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  Speaker 5: on I'm talking about TikTok all the time, But I
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  Speaker 5: was on once TikTok essentially where it showed this now
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  Speaker 5: man jaredes Gilmore, but he was a kid married now
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  Speaker 5: and I don't think he's acting anymore since the end
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  Speaker 5: of the series from what I gathered, but I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of sweet holding his normal life. Good on you. No,
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  Speaker 5: but I am actually talking about the antagonists of the
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  Speaker 5: first season, the one we love to hate but hate
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  Speaker 5: to love both of those things. The Evil Queen or
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  Speaker 5: Regina Mills, played by Olana Purilla and Lana. She kind
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  Speaker 5: of has her own fan base. There's something about her
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  Speaker 5: that everybody loves. Even though her character is so legeous,
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  Speaker 5: brisk and cold and calculating and manipulative.
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  Speaker 1: You just still love her.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, I'm assuming there's a lot of shipping fanfic.
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  Speaker 3: With her and Lana her nammummy.
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  Speaker 4: So you brought this up when we were hanging out recently,
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  Speaker 4: and just like fortuitously, a listener from France Elitie wrote in,
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  Speaker 4: and if I may yes quote quickly, I felt like
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  Speaker 4: sending you a little message. Mostly motivated by hack sited
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  Speaker 4: I was when Samantha mentioned she is was a once fan. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: it took me back to such a time of my life,
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  Speaker 4: and I was super involved in fandoms, especially on Tumblr.
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  Speaker 4: I was deep into the rabbit hole with this fandom,
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  Speaker 4: which from my experience was pretty cool overall. The most
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  Speaker 4: popular ship of the once fandom is Swan Queen. Yesapphic
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  Speaker 4: non cannon romantic pairing between Emma Rotina and you had
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  Speaker 4: mentioned you thought that was true, and then we got
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  Speaker 4: this I think later that.
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  Speaker 1: Night, Jilly, that's why we need you.
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  Speaker 2: So that's just my interjection. I like this so excited,
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  Speaker 2: got it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad you got that confirmation at the beginning of
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  Speaker 5: those because I know there has to be because there
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  Speaker 5: are so many like you know, the the love to hate,
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  Speaker 5: ploy the enemy to lovers. This is the classic because
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  Speaker 5: not only were the enemies, they're fighting for a son.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, all of these things. We also will go
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  Speaker 5: ahead and say that there is snow White is the
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  Speaker 5: main fairy tale that we start with, who is played
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  Speaker 5: by Jennifer Goodwin, who is marry Margaret in the real
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  Speaker 5: world with that end quotes, and then we have Prince
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  Speaker 5: Charming played by Josh Dallas. And by the way, Jennifer
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  Speaker 5: and Josh are real life couples that they met on
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  Speaker 5: the set.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Also who ad met on the set was Jennifer Morrison
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  Speaker 5: and Sebastian Stan who played the Mad Hatter on this show,
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  Speaker 5: and they got together for like a brief second. But anyway,
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  Speaker 5: with all those side characters aside, Yes, this is one
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  Speaker 5: of my favorite shows before before I got into cat Ramas.
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  Speaker 5: This is one of those repeat shows that I had
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  Speaker 5: right up there with Supernatural and New Girl. So now
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  Speaker 5: you know my shows. But this was actually created by
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  Speaker 5: Lost and Tron Legacy writers, which I don't know why
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  Speaker 5: that's the credit, but Lost is what I know, Edward
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  Speaker 5: Kisses and Adam Horowitz.
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  Speaker 1: So it's got a lot.
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  Speaker 5: So if you enjoyed Lost, you have a lot of
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  Speaker 5: the same actors that came into Once Upon Time or
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  Speaker 5: Once so you got a lot of those good actors.
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  Speaker 5: Jennifer Goodwin is actually I believe award winning actor as well,
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  Speaker 5: so she's been she's been in the movies before Tholse
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  Speaker 5: so you know all these amazing actors. It lasted for
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  Speaker 5: seven seasons and then I think they try to have
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  Speaker 5: a spinoff and it did not go well, but they tried,
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  Speaker 5: and Lana Paria actually went into that spin off as well.
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  Speaker 5: But she is glorious. But everything about this show is
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  Speaker 5: exactly what you would think. You have the typical fairy
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  Speaker 5: tales or the true love and the true love kiss
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  Speaker 5: and the breaking of the curse and all of these things.
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  Speaker 5: We have a rumpel Stiltskin played by Robert Carlyle, who
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  Speaker 5: I believe wasn't lost. He was also in Chain Spotting,
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  Speaker 5: which I was like, wow, yeah, I know appreciation.
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  Speaker 3: When you have people coming through.
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  Speaker 5: But we have many, many, many many fairy tale characters
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  Speaker 5: that it's a part of this. There's also again the
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  Speaker 5: newer Disney versions of things. Again, Frozen is a part
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  Speaker 5: of this. Mereda from Brave is a part of this.
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  Speaker 5: So you've got different stories that come in. Alice in
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  Speaker 5: Wonderland is a huge part of this. You also have
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  Speaker 5: like tales like Jacqueline Hyde that become a part of this,
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  Speaker 5: and of course the Wizard of Oz, so different things
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  Speaker 5: all throughout. We meet snow White who is awaken from
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  Speaker 5: a curse by hard Prince Charming, but we also meet
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  Speaker 5: the evil Queen or Alana Porea, who Regina Mills, who
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  Speaker 5: is a mayor of the small town. So what we
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  Speaker 5: think in this little world called the Storybook main.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the name of the.
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  Speaker 5: Place is called Storybrook where this curse has happened from
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  Speaker 5: the fairy Tale Lands or the Enchanted Forest, a different
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  Speaker 5: world where she takes herself and all of the creatures
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  Speaker 5: from that land to a place with no magic, and
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  Speaker 5: she is in control of that land, and time stops
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  Speaker 5: for them the entirety of the time. But the prophecy
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  Speaker 5: is that a product of True Love, which would be
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  Speaker 5: the child of Snow White and print Darming, would come
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  Speaker 5: and break this curse. But because of that curse, she
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  Speaker 5: needs her to be different and away from that curse.
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  Speaker 5: So they sent her to the real world without knowing
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  Speaker 5: who she is, by herself essentially, and she grows up
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  Speaker 5: thinking she's an unwonted orphan, which is always what happens,
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  Speaker 5: who gets into a lot of trouble, who gets pregnant
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  Speaker 5: at a young age, gives up this child for adoption,
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  Speaker 5: and then this child comes out of nowhere Henry to
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  Speaker 5: find her because he is so miserable. But he also,
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  Speaker 5: being from the real world, knows that there's something wrong
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  Speaker 5: with story Brook, Maine, which is where he came from,
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  Speaker 5: and that there is a curse and knows the truth
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  Speaker 5: about it all and has to be the one that
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  Speaker 5: teaches or tells the daughter of True Love that she
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  Speaker 5: is the one to.
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  Speaker 3: Break the curse. So there you go. So that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the premise.
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  Speaker 5: Of this entirety of the show. And she obviously does
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  Speaker 5: not believe in fairy tales or magic or any of
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  Speaker 5: bad stuff or this nonsense. But Henry, her child, does,
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  Speaker 5: And yes, Henry is adopted by Regina Mills Slash the
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  Speaker 5: Snug Queen, and he is really the only thing she
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  Speaker 5: loves in this world because she does not care and
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  Speaker 5: is bitter and angry and wants everybody to suffer because
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  Speaker 5: she is miserable.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're ready.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So here's a character analysis from character dot com
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  Speaker 5: to character's C H A R C T O. You
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  Speaker 5: are character wor oh dot com. So here's what it says.
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  Speaker 5: It says she is the mayor storybook. In addition to
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  Speaker 5: her duties quote unquote as evil Queen, she keeps watch
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  Speaker 5: over everyone in town, and she also knows where they
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  Speaker 5: came from and lies about it constantly clashes with Emma Swan,
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  Speaker 5: who later becomes a new chaf from that town because
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  Speaker 5: she's fighting for the good people.
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  Speaker 2: She is.
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  Speaker 5: Stepmother to snow White or Margaret Mary Margaret. Her interests
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  Speaker 5: include I like that they put an interest, magic apples,
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  Speaker 5: and her adopted son. Yes, her relationship status single and cynical.
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  Speaker 5: Before becoming the Evil Queen, Regina was in love with
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  Speaker 5: a stable boy and was generally much more optimistic about romance. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's really sad. And then her personality is aggressive, smart,
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  Speaker 5: and pragmatic. Unlike her mother, who is very evil. Regina
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  Speaker 5: learns the value of her relationships, of her achieving total power,
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  Speaker 5: and acts as a foil to snow White's idealism. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: you don't get to be the Evil Queen without doing
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  Speaker 5: some serious harm to somebody, and you definitely don't want
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  Speaker 5: Regina as an enemy. She kills a lot of people, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: She kills a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: She crushes, she crushes their heart.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of this.
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  Speaker 5: So let me introduce you to Regina or later on
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  Speaker 5: she will become known as the Evil Queen. But in
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  Speaker 5: between the enchanted forest and the real world, that is
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  Speaker 5: her name Regina, and she is the daughter of Cora,
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  Speaker 5: who is power hungry. So Cora is pretty manipulative and
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  Speaker 5: works all these things to get Regina to be the queen.
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  Speaker 5: So she's trying to give her the life that she
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  Speaker 5: never had. By the way, Cora is older, but the
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  Speaker 5: younger Cora is portrayed by Rose Mcowan, which I thought
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  Speaker 5: was yes, okay, yes, But here's.
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  Speaker 3: What we know.
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  Speaker 5: So Regina grew up very sweet, very kind and loving
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  Speaker 5: loves loves loves horses like. She is so good at
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  Speaker 5: riding and always loves it, and she falls in love
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  Speaker 5: with a stable boy named Daniel and they are so
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  Speaker 5: happy together. She wants to run away with him and
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  Speaker 5: have a happy life until one day she sees a
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  Speaker 5: runaway horse with a young girl on it screaming for help.
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  Speaker 5: She goes and rescues the young girl. Turns out this
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  Speaker 5: girl is the princess of the king, and after discovering this,
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  Speaker 5: the king, who has just lost his wife, asks to
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  Speaker 5: marry Regina because she's obviously been so kind and so
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  Speaker 5: good to her his daughter that he wants to find
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  Speaker 5: the best bride and best stepmother for her. So she
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  Speaker 5: is freaking out. Regina's like no, no, no, no no,
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  Speaker 5: and comes to Daniel and they decide to run away
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  Speaker 5: together because they're like, we got to do something or
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  Speaker 5: something about this. In the midst of this, she gets
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  Speaker 5: caught by snow White kissing Daniel when she's supposed to
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  Speaker 5: be engaged to her father, So snow White being so
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  Speaker 5: sweet and pure, cry, how could you do this to
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  Speaker 5: my dad? You're supposed to be my mother. What's happening?
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  Speaker 5: And then Regina's like, look, I need to tell you
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  Speaker 5: the truth. I don't love your father. I love this span.
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  Speaker 5: I've loved this pan for a long time. And snow
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  Speaker 5: White is, oh my god. Then you also get married, yes,
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  Speaker 5: And then Regina's like, you know, you need to keep
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  Speaker 5: the secret because this will be bad for me if
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  Speaker 5: you tell everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So She's like, okay, cool, cool, cool, I got you.
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  Speaker 5: Cora, the manipulative self is trying to get in good
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  Speaker 5: with the daughter and talking to her and then gets
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  Speaker 5: the secret out of her, being like, I won't just
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  Speaker 5: want my daughter to be happy, snow White, can you
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  Speaker 5: make us closer? Help us because I feel like she's
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  Speaker 5: keeping all these secrets from me and I just want
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  Speaker 5: us to be true like happy family. So snow thinking, okay, cool,
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  Speaker 5: col cool, Well let me tell you. Please don't make
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  Speaker 5: her marry my dad. She doesn't want to. I don't
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  Speaker 5: want her to. I want her to be happy. You
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  Speaker 5: don't want her to happily live with Daniel. No, not
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  Speaker 5: good because at this point Chor comes over and kills
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  Speaker 5: Daniel in front of Regina, and it's like, you will
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  Speaker 5: do this because this is the only future for you.
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  Speaker 5: So this has spawned the whole snow White ruined my life,
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  Speaker 5: and snow White betrayed me, and she deserves to die.
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  Speaker 5: So she goes onto this whole rampage where not she
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  Speaker 5: does finally marry the king. She gets the king killed
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  Speaker 5: by getting the Genie, who is played by gen Carlo
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  Speaker 5: y Esposito. Esposito, Yeah, esposito. He comes in and he
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  Speaker 5: helps her kill the king because she tells them she's
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  Speaker 5: in love with him and wants to run away. She
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  Speaker 5: is unhappy at the castle. Not only is she unhappy
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  Speaker 5: because of her parents, her mother who has forced her
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  Speaker 5: into this, but she's lost her husband. And then the
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  Speaker 5: king loves his daughter more than anything else in the
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  Speaker 5: world and talks constantly about his deceased wife.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, none of these things are great.
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  Speaker 3: It's not the worst thing in the world.
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  Speaker 5: But it's not, you know, great, right, So all this happens,
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  Speaker 5: and so she and the Genie end up killing the king.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, haha, I tricked you. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: be with you.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't want to get rid of the king,
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  Speaker 5: and so Genie is like, well he had a wish
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  Speaker 5: left and was like, I'm gonna wish to be with
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  Speaker 5: you forever.
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  Speaker 3: And then he gets stuck in the mirror and he
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  Speaker 3: becomes the mirror.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many things, so that's.
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  Speaker 3: How that goes.
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  Speaker 5: So she is very unhappy and her life is bent
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  Speaker 5: on revenge, like she wants to make snow White pay
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  Speaker 5: for getting her her person killed. She somehow gets rid
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  Speaker 5: of her mom because she starts learning. She didn't know
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  Speaker 5: magic at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently you have.
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  Speaker 5: To learn magic care and then her mother has no
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  Speaker 5: magic and is very powerful. So in order to defeat
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  Speaker 5: her mother, she goes and finds some repel still Skin,
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  Speaker 5: who is this other character where he's the dark one,
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  Speaker 5: so he has the most powers, but you can control
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  Speaker 5: him if you want to, with the with the knife
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  Speaker 5: whole other character. But he's the one that taught Cora,
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  Speaker 5: and so she finds him and he teaches Regina how
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  Speaker 5: to do magic, and with that she bans her mother
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  Speaker 5: from the land and sends her away all these things,
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  Speaker 5: and he's also the one that tricks her into doing
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  Speaker 5: this curse that takes everybody away from the magic world
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  Speaker 5: to the magic World. So after all of this, after
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  Speaker 5: all the failing of trying to kill snow White, and
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  Speaker 5: she has tried to kill snow White in so many
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  Speaker 5: ways with different people and tricking everybody, she has a
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  Speaker 5: whole group of witches on her side that it's also
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  Speaker 5: like frenemies type of thing. It's like the mean girls
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  Speaker 5: type of thing. So we have Maleficent as a part
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  Speaker 5: of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have Ursula. Ursula
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  Speaker 5: is kind of the part of that. And then from
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  Speaker 5: the Dalmatians Guerrilla Deville, she's a kind of like so
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  Speaker 5: all of them are kind of all together but not
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  Speaker 5: and they're all like frenemies, whole thing, whole thing, and
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  Speaker 5: so she throughout tries to plan to get their happy ending.
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  Speaker 5: Essentially is the goal, and that her happy ending is
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  Speaker 5: to get revenge on snow White. Snow White is apologetic
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  Speaker 5: and tries to apologize and finally gets to the point
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  Speaker 5: where she's like, it's not my fault. I was a
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  Speaker 5: child and starts fighting back. So there's this whole battle
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  Speaker 5: between the Queen and snow White.
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  Speaker 3: Thing.
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  Speaker 5: Little Weird Riding Hood is on their side on snow
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  Speaker 5: white side. The dwarfs are on snow white side, the
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  Speaker 5: fairies are on snow white side, all those things. All
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  Speaker 5: the villains are obviously over here, and Rebel steel Skin
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  Speaker 5: is just playing his own game.
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  Speaker 1: So all of this.
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  Speaker 5: Finally, Regina tries to find the ultimate curse to end
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  Speaker 5: all of everybody's happiness but her own, because she gets
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  Speaker 5: the control the whole narrative, and she makes sure to
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  Speaker 5: keep Snow White and Prince Charming separated from each other
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  Speaker 5: in the real world, like affairs happened and like comas,
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  Speaker 5: all those things. Unhappiness, Yeah, so much unhappiness. So they
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  Speaker 5: all come to the real world and she's been living
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  Speaker 5: good twenty eight years without any problems until Emma Swan
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  Speaker 5: shows up and she puts all kinds of roadblocks in
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  Speaker 5: her plans, including the fact that Henry is very upset
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  Speaker 5: with the mother, doesn't want to hang out with Regina,
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  Speaker 5: wants to be with his biological mother. And then Emma's
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  Speaker 5: trying to protect everybody, becomes the sheriff after the actual
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  Speaker 5: sheriff is killed by Regina because she got rejected by
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  Speaker 5: him and he was the huntsman yeah in the old world,
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  Speaker 5: and he remembered it. She had to kill him before
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  Speaker 5: he could tell everybody. Oh no, she crushed his heart
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: that she kept in this thing. She has a whole
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: like chamber with all the magic she was able to
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: bring over, which is not much, but she has enough.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: And it does include the Mad Hatter helping her to
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: get like things from the other worlds because he has
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: access to other worlds thanks to his top hat. Of course,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: of course, and I made you watch that episode.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You did disturb it.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: It was a disturbing episode because we just watched Fresh Fresh.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: This is too familiar, except he's not eating people. He did,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: like the Spiker drink and then kidnap them, so.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It was similar.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: But going back to Regina, so she goes to this
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: harrowing thing and she's trying to keep her world intact,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: but it's not gonna happen. It ends up going all bad.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: She's trying to get rid of Emma, even tries to
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: poison Emma with a poison apple that she got from
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: the other world, but Henry eats it instead and he
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: is put under a curse and he actually kind of dies,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: but thanks to Emma, who finally believes in real maybe
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: this is all true, gives him a true loves kiss.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: As we talked about before, it can be different thanks Frozen. Yes, yes,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: and it breaks the entirety of the curse and everybody
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: is awakened, but there's still no magic except Rubel Stilkskin
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: having his own agenda because he's trying to find his
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: happy ending brought magic into the world and brings magic
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: back to the land rot Row. That means Regina is
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: now powerful witch again, evil queen again. That was season one,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Season one.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say, I am loving this.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I rarely get to be on this side where I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: just like going along for the ride of what.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Is I'm just like excitedly telling you everything about the
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: show before you even said it. I mean, I hope
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: that I probably should have put this in the beginning,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: that there were spoilers. But it's been over since I
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: think like twenty eighteen. I think we're good, right, it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: been over five years.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Well the rules ten years, but I feel like there's
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: something big. Okay, then it's like a couple of months
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: because you can't control it. But I am having really
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: fun and I hope that you are too, Samantha, because
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: this has become a two burner.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: We're gonna stop it here.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And then we're going to pick back up with what
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: happens next in once.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I'm having such a good time.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: If you would like to contact us, if you have
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: any thoughts about this, you can email us at Stephania
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us
• 21:27
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• 21:28
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• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We have a tea public store, and we have a book.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Thanks as always to our super produced Christina, our executive
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: producer Maya, and our contributor Joey. Thank you and thanks
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: to you for listening. Steffan Never Told You is production
• 21:41
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