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Scott Servais on his split with the Mariners, New role with SD · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Like, the thing that stood out for me first was
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  Speaker 1: just the number of people who work for the Padres
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  Speaker 1: and the different departments that they have and how they're
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  Speaker 1: built out. It's just different.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Here come Scott Service joining us right now, special assistant
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  Speaker 3: with the San Diego Padres and of course spent a
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  Speaker 3: long time running the Seattle Mariners doug Out as their manager. Scott,
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  Speaker 3: great to have you on here for the first time.
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  Speaker 3: And how's life with the Padres who were off to
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  Speaker 3: a very nice start.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Potters are playing great, but I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: guys having me on this morning. Do I need the
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  Speaker 1: backwards hat to fit in here? I mean, what do
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  Speaker 1: you got now?
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  Speaker 4: You've got the You've got the lettuce, so you're good.
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  Speaker 4: I've got this.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, Scott.
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  Speaker 5: People ask me all the time where I wear my
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  Speaker 5: hat backwards every day so I don't have to comb
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  Speaker 5: my hair right? So because look at my hair, Like,
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  Speaker 5: there are days where I'm running late and I just
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  Speaker 5: don't have time.
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  Speaker 1: So it's okay, still got hair, You still got hair.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: True.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have an hour a day like like Broun
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  Speaker 5: does over here to cloff his hair.
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  Speaker 2: Perfectly. So you know, someone us have lives other than this.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there we go, there we go.
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  Speaker 6: This is why I wear my backwards hat. But it's
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  Speaker 6: also I was never allowed to wear a backwards hat
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  Speaker 6: as a kid, and then I started catching when I
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  Speaker 6: was a junior in high school and catchers are the
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  Speaker 6: only ones that are allowed to wear their hats backwards,
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  Speaker 6: so I was allowed.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Ken Griffith Jr. Had no problem with it.
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  Speaker 2: Cratzy, he was pretty He was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 6: And Scott before we get into all the good stuff,
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  Speaker 6: do you remember your manager, Rick Sweet? Ricky Sweet.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he's.
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  Speaker 6: Been managing since since World War One, I think, And
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  Speaker 6: he said he managed you, and he's watching the show today.
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  Speaker 6: So we got to give Ricky Sweet a shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Rick was the first manager ever had in
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  Speaker 1: pro ball. I was playing for the Astros over in Kassimi,
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  Speaker 1: Florida in the Florida State League. And you know, you
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  Speaker 1: never forget the first and uh he was there along
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  Speaker 1: with the pitching coach guy made the name of Jack Billingham.
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  Speaker 2: At the time.
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  Speaker 1: Jack was a long time Cincinnati Reds back at the
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  Speaker 1: Big Red Machine days and those are the guys that
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  Speaker 1: started my career.
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  Speaker 2: With me right down the street.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, right right down the street from us, Scott, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you should go check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Me. I've been to Kasimi.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, just make sure I know about twenty minutes I've been.
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  Speaker 4: I've been. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I had to find some haircuts there at one point,
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  Speaker 3: no joke, anyway, Yeah, for one point he.
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  Speaker 2: Went to Kassimi to get your haircut.
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  Speaker 4: It's a long story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a long way out of the way too.
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  Speaker 4: We'll tell it during a break.
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  Speaker 2: But wow, Okay, anyways, let's get back to base.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, wait before we get into pod because he's.
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  Speaker 5: Gonna ask about I don't want to care. I don't
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  Speaker 5: really care about the Potters. Potter has been great. I
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  Speaker 5: want to talk about the team he came from. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: and and and here's my thing is all I want
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  Speaker 5: to know.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the first question. And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how you can answer this.
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  Speaker 5: But you and to Poto were like best friends, right,
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  Speaker 5: So how does that work when he calls you in
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  Speaker 5: the office and says, Scott, I love you. You're my best friend,
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  Speaker 5: but we're like that had to be crush him crush.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I just don't know. I want to know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it took us a whole two minutes to get
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  Speaker 1: to that question, AJ, So.
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  Speaker 2: If they would jump right in, we dive right in.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, things happened. I had a great time.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed my time in Seattle. We did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of really good things there. You know, it's professional sports.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't always end the way you wanted to, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, excited about opportunity to get on with the Podres.
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  Speaker 1: It's been really good to look at how other organizations
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  Speaker 1: do things, what they value and you know, I really
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  Speaker 1: enjoy spending time with young players, helping out young coaches.
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  Speaker 1: So I do have some previous relationships with some of
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  Speaker 1: the people here in San Diego, so it's been a
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  Speaker 1: good fit and I appreciate them letting me come on
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  Speaker 1: board and help out any way I can. Obviously spending
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time with the minor league players. At
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  Speaker 1: this time of year, everybody's kind of getting geared up
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  Speaker 1: for the draft, so I've got an opportunity to see
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  Speaker 1: some amateur players throughout the country and it's been good.
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  Speaker 1: It's keeping me busy.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. You know what? That sounded like. That was
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  Speaker 2: a GM answer right there. That was the GM. I
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  Speaker 2: don't really want to answer that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna it's okay, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I know you were a manager a long time. It's okay,
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  Speaker 2: I get all right. Well, then I got ask my
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  Speaker 2: next question.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep asking Mariners question to answer one. No,
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  Speaker 5: I just have one more, and and and again it's
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  Speaker 5: it's another question. Did you feel like I know, you
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  Speaker 5: guys made the playoffs the one you know, and you
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  Speaker 5: had some runs and you got close, but did you
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  Speaker 5: feel like you were given Because we talk about this
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  Speaker 5: all the time and Seattle is one of our favorite
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  Speaker 5: teams to pick on, but did you feel like you
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  Speaker 5: were given the resources needed from the ownership and and
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  Speaker 5: and just because like they were. I look at this
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  Speaker 5: year and even last year. You guys make the playoffs,
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  Speaker 5: they don't go out and do anything. They make some
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  Speaker 5: small trades, but they don't go get the next piece.
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  Speaker 5: This year kind of the same thing. And we start
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  Speaker 5: hearing it from mayoron or fan, did you feel like
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  Speaker 5: as the manager and if we just could have done
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even to name and name, but anything to
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  Speaker 5: get the next step. Man, I still could be the
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  Speaker 5: And again, I know these are hard questions, and I apologize, Scott,
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  Speaker 5: but these are questions I always want to ask you
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  Speaker 5: never Idolgie, because these are answers to questions I want
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  Speaker 5: to hear from people that I never hear asked, and
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  Speaker 5: I want to know because you're a human and I
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  Speaker 5: know you have feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think every organization in baseball, every manager
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  Speaker 1: out there, maybe other than Dave Roberts, who are certainly
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  Speaker 1: going to have the cupboards are stocked there with the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: but every manager out there, you're always looking for ways,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, how to get better. Uh does
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  Speaker 1: this player help? Does that player help? Things like that.
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  Speaker 1: But every organization is in a different spot based on
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  Speaker 1: you know, the market, you have, what you're trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: where you're at kind of in your cycle of players
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  Speaker 1: that are coming through. So again, Aj, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to give you the answer you're looking for, but I
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  Speaker 1: have no problem to asking the question.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's no, I just yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 6: A J was asking the real hard hitters. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: give you an easy one.
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  Speaker 1: You give me something, I give me a give me
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  Speaker 1: a softball. What do you got?
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  Speaker 6: I'll give you an easy one. Is the batters eye
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  Speaker 6: in Seattle too angled? Like did you ever stand in
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  Speaker 6: the box? I know I watched you. I watched you
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  Speaker 6: stand behind the turtle during VP. Is the batters I angled?
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  Speaker 1: You know I can't see it is angled? To answer
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  Speaker 1: your question, I never really thought about it till ti
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  Speaker 1: Oscar Hernandez made the comment about it. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after he said it, you know, after after we had
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  Speaker 1: him that one year, I didn't notice it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how it affects what hitter seed during the game,
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  Speaker 1: you stand behind the turtle. It doesn't look like there
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  Speaker 1: is an issue. But the biggest thing obviously in Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: it is a big time pitchers ballpark and stuff to hit.
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  Speaker 1: It's certainly tough to hit in April and May it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit chilly. The ball just doesn't carry. It
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  Speaker 1: is perfectly fine, I think in the summertime as it
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  Speaker 1: heats up. But it has proven out to be one
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  Speaker 1: of the best pitches parks in the league, and I
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  Speaker 1: think part of it has to do with the pitching
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  Speaker 1: that the Mariners throw out there. It is high end stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They have a lot of good arms and it's tough
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  Speaker 1: place to score runs, but it is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: angled in the outfield. And again maybe it affects some guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I never really thought about it or noticed it a
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  Speaker 1: ton until Ti Oscar had mentioned something a few years ago.
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  Speaker 6: Are we missing? Are we missing something with Cal Raley
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  Speaker 6: because as a catcher, as a fellow catcher, I love
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  Speaker 6: watching this dude play. He plays every single game and
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  Speaker 6: on a national level, Are we missing how good this
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  Speaker 6: guy is getting to one hundred home runs just last
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  Speaker 6: night and the fact that he's winning Gold Gloves Platinum Gloves.
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  Speaker 6: Should we know more about him across the nation as
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  Speaker 6: baseball fans?
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  Speaker 1: He certainly should. I think he's one of the top
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  Speaker 1: catchers in the league, and I've said that for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years, and there's a lot of really good
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  Speaker 1: catchers in the league, but what he's been able to do,
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  Speaker 1: and I got so much respect for Cal, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys both played the position and you
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  Speaker 1: understand that the bumps and bruises and you have to
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  Speaker 1: pay play it, not at one hundred percent probably the
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  Speaker 1: majority of the season, and Cal finds a way to post.
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  Speaker 1: He gets out there once the game starts, you can
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  Speaker 1: see the adrenaline takeover. And not just what he does,
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  Speaker 1: you know in the batter's boxer and they got big
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  Speaker 1: time power, but what he's done with the pitching staff there,
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  Speaker 1: and how he constantly's focused on improving his game. I
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  Speaker 1: know a couple of years ago, he wasn't happy with
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  Speaker 1: his friending numbers and he went out and said, screw it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better, and he went and talked to
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  Speaker 1: some of the best guys in the league and he
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  Speaker 1: got better. Now he's one of the best in the league.
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  Speaker 1: So my hat's off to him. And I was really
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  Speaker 1: happy and excited for him that he got the extension
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  Speaker 1: there in Seattle, because he deserved it. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: you go out and you play and you post, and
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  Speaker 1: you're starting to see his voice come forward and be
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  Speaker 1: a real leader for that team now, and which they need,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is he's done an awesome job. And like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm happy to see he got the extension
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  Speaker 1: to stay there and got a ton of respect for him.
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  Speaker 2: Scott.
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  Speaker 5: I know we talked about this a little bit. I
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  Speaker 5: had a bunch of your games last year when you
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  Speaker 5: were still in Seattle. Do you wish there was a backup?
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  Speaker 5: I listen, as a former catcher, I love to play
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  Speaker 5: every day. Do you think that the new thing is like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: have him catch a hundred games? Well, Cal's having to
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  Speaker 5: catch one hundred and thirty, one hundred and twenty, five
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  Speaker 5: hundred and thirty every year because you were kind of
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  Speaker 5: stuck where you had Mitch Garver as his backup. He's
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  Speaker 5: still there and he wasn't really catching because he was
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be the DH. Do you think in the
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  Speaker 5: long term that will help him or hurt him by
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  Speaker 5: having to play one hundred and twenty Because listen, I
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  Speaker 5: love playing one hundred and thirty games, and I was
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  Speaker 5: fortunate I was healthy all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But do you think at some point he's gonna wear down?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I think it does jump on catcher's backs once in
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  Speaker 1: a while you start putting the amount of the workload
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  Speaker 1: together on him. I think the tough thing AJ and
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  Speaker 1: Kratz you probably appreciate this too. It's the games that
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  Speaker 1: maybe you're not starting, but all of a sudden you
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  Speaker 1: come into the game late, so you think you have
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  Speaker 1: a day off, but all of a sudden, the game's tied.
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  Speaker 1: It's the eighth inning. Oh gosh, we got to run
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  Speaker 1: Cal in there to pinch hit him. You feel that
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  Speaker 1: as a manager, you know he's one of the best
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  Speaker 1: bats you know, so it's the day you were hoping
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  Speaker 1: to give him off, not just physically but mentally. But
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  Speaker 1: now you look up, the score is tied. I got
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  Speaker 1: one of my best bats in the lineup. Here comes
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  Speaker 1: the catcher's spot. You have to pinch hit them. When
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  Speaker 1: those games start to mount where you can't get a
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  Speaker 1: full day off, like I said, physically and mentally, then
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  Speaker 1: it can wear on you a little bit. But he's
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  Speaker 1: in his prime. The one thing I'll say about cal
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  Speaker 1: I said a ton of respect. He wants to play
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  Speaker 1: every day, even the days he's not in the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: He'll come in your office and he'll be pissed off
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  Speaker 1: at you and put me in there. I'm good And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you have to be the grown up and say no,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a day here. But those games
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  Speaker 1: you have to come in later in the game. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: that's even harder on guys than actually going out and
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  Speaker 1: starting the game.
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  Speaker 5: I agree, So thank you for saying that, because it
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  Speaker 5: is the worst thing as a catcher when the manager
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  Speaker 5: would say hey. Because I was pretty fortunate, most of
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  Speaker 5: my managers would come to me and say, hey, you're
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  Speaker 5: playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday is a day game. There's
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  Speaker 5: a lefty thrown. We're gonna give you that day. And
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  Speaker 5: then the eighth inning comes around. And what would make
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  Speaker 5: me more mad than anything is you're down five and
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  Speaker 5: they're like, go pinch it, and I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Like, even if I let a whole run it doesn't do, then.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta go out and catch. Like, just start me.
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  Speaker 5: If you're gonna stick me in that situation, just start me,
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  Speaker 5: because it doesn't. It's the same mentally and same physical
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  Speaker 5: you know, ups and downs. Is just catching that one
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  Speaker 5: thing is as it was catching nine.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no no question about it. Ag I gotta
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  Speaker 1: share a story with you. Man. So I'm over with
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  Speaker 1: the Padres this spring and I'm in spring training and
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  Speaker 1: getting the no guys, I'm not spending I'm spending most
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  Speaker 1: of my time on the minor league side. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the guys that you've managed against for years,
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk to. So I had a little
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to you darbish for a minute. And
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  Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated about you darbish, you know, from
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  Speaker 1: when he came over from Japan and what he's able
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  Speaker 1: to do throughout his career. And I start talking to him,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we're going back and forth, and I
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  Speaker 1: asked him the question. I said, hey, you, who's some
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  Speaker 1: of the favorite catchers you've thrown to? And he's rattling
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  Speaker 1: off two or three or four different guys and we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about it and he drops a J Perzinsky on me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you kidding? And you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: put him in that group? Look at AJ right now.
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  Speaker 1: You see that crazy sits up right now.
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  Speaker 2: Now Jack's career ra when I called him, trust me,
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  Speaker 2: it was really good.
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  Speaker 1: So we got into that conversation and I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: what did AJ do? How was this Japanese? He said, no, No,
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  Speaker 1: Japanese wasn't good. I could barely understand his English.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of curse words in there too, trust me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: throw the half and fastball.
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  Speaker 5: You you throw a hundred, Please throw a fastball.
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  Speaker 1: No, I thought you appreciate that one and I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: if I ever run India again, here I am. I
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to share that story.
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  Speaker 5: But listen, you and I didn't necessarily get along out
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  Speaker 5: at all times when we played together, because there was
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  Speaker 5: a lot of me yelling at him, like you can
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  Speaker 5: be so much better. But now we see each other,
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  Speaker 5: we're much better. We're friends now we talk, so I
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  Speaker 5: love you. He was great and people ask me, Scott,
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: the best stuff I've ever seen you darvish, and it's
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: not even cool. He threw eight pitches that were better
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: than anybody. I mean it was you could throw any
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: pitch anytime. You can literally walk out of the mountain
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: and say you, let's invent like a knuckle split curveball,
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: and he goes and throw.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: It right there on the mountain. You'd be like, nobody
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: could throw that.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys are amazing when they have that kind
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: of fear. And he has one of those guys and
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: just an unbelievable career. And I know he's out right
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: now with the pod andres. Hopefully we'll get him back soon.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: But I had to share that story with you. I'm like, Okay,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I got to put this in the bank. There'll be
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: a time to catch in on it. So I thought
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: today was today.
• 14:13
  Speaker 6: And you Dartis could go out the next day and
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: throw all of those pitches left handed too, So yes,
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: he is. He is definitely the most impressive. Now back
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: to the Padres, you had said, all the things you're doing,
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: what are you the best at? What do you bring
• 14:27
  Speaker 6: the most value at with the organization in the role
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: that you're.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: At now, I don't know if there's the best thing.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of experience, and I think you know,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: whether it's from you know, I've been in the front
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: office before, I've I've run player development, you know, departments,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: been a farm director obviously being at the major league
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: level here the last you know, nine years, you have
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: a different You have a feel for people and relationships
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: and that's what I really love. And uh and I'm
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: learning a lot too. But you know, as far as
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: like what I'm best at, I don't know. I just
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I love the relationships in the game and I'm able
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: to right now give back to young coaches and players.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting in San Antonio today, I'll go to a
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: double A game tonight watch our team there, you know,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: So I love the game that's the biggest thing, and
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: anytime you got a chance to give back. But along
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: the way, I learn, and I think as we've seen
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: the game evolve, certainly in the last ten twelve years,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: it's changed so much. I have learned a ton being
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: around and exposed to a lot of really good young coaches,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and like I said, they've taught me a few things.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: And along the way, maybe I've passed on a few
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: experiences that I've had to them to help them along
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the way. So again it's about the relationships in the game.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I do love that. I do miss the competition, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: when you're in the dugout every night, it's win or
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: lose and the games on the line, and I really
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: enjoyed that as well. But for me where I'm at
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: right now in my career, I'm enjoying giving back and
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: just trying to help out the potters any way I can.
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  Speaker 6: Are we failing minor leaguers at this point? You're you're
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: doing mostly minor league things right now? Are we failing
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: them as a baseball industry compared to where we used
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: to be? Because Major League Baseball's gotten rid of so
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: many teams, gotten rid of development, gotten rid of over
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: half of over half of the draft. Are we failing them?
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: I mean we It came out that the Marlins Triple
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: A pitching coach is calling pitches for their catchers so
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: that they can work on their that's Triple A, so
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: they can work on their hitting. In general, do you
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: feel like, not just saying the Padres or the or
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: the Mariners, but just in general.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things. I've noticed that I was
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: out in Triple A about a week ago. I'm in
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Double A right now. I was in spring training. Certainly,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the number of players just aren't there. You talked about
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: they eliminated the half of the draft, and that it
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: does affect things as far as the depth of players,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the number of players you have to pull from, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: along the way, there will be a twenty ninth round
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Eric Kratz that makes his way to the big leagues,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and there's not all those players that are there right now.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So that that's the first thing that you notice, I think,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: on how the game is played, the game is changing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can push back against that, whether
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it's the rule changes or you know, what's the things
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that in development, things that are focused on. Obviously velocity
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: is shot through the roof and the pitching side. You know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it's been interesting for me to see how some organizations
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: value contact rates and just getting the ball in play.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You know, back when when I played, and certainly when
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you guys played, you know, it really drove us crazy
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to strike out, and you've seen over the last ten
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: fifteen years the strikeouts just part of the game. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's been fun for me to continue to learn see
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what the padres do. We put a big premium and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: getting the ball in play, and then how that can
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: be stressed, you know, throughout different organizations. But the biggest
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: thing is, you know, certainly the number of players that
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: are down, how the game is played. I think there's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of changes to the game that have been
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: good for the game. When the when the pitch clock
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: first came in play, I'm like, I don't know about this,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: or you know, limiting the mound visits it has helped
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the game in my opinion. It really has now the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: biggest change on the on the horizon. Here's abs we
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: saw it in spring training. I'm watching it at the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Triple A level here last week. It is very interesting.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I love the strategy of the game, and there's a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: ton of strategy tied to tow a B S and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the challenges. I think that's gonna ultimately when it was
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: brought up to me, originally was brought up to me,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I said, this is bad for the game. Now watching
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it play out and how quickly quickly it happens, it's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: actually probably gonna be a pretty interesting part of the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: game going forward. So the game keeps changing. We can't
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: stop it. But I also think it comes full circle
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and I think you're starting to see, you know, some
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of the small ball come back into the play at
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the big league level, stressed at the minor league level.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You know, the bunt thing, the stealing the bases, doing
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the moving runners, which kind of went away in our
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: game for a long time when it was just about
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the three run homer and slug the ball. But again,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it's the game. It keeps changing. I think you have
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to be smart enough to realize you have to move
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: with it and you try to stay out ahead of it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And as far as strategy of it goes. So I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: love all those things that I really do, and you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: but the abs thing will be the next thing Cratcy.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: That's really going to be interesting to see how that
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: plays out.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: A couple of things.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Got One, if you're in San Antonio, stay away from
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: the riverwalk. My wife got the COVID there, so be careful.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: When I was there for.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: The Gator game and they won the National champions be
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: careful you find out. But I mean she had the COVID.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know the COVID was a.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Thing anymore, So be careful while you're there.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Two, you must have been listening to our conversation earlier
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: where we were talking about strikeouts and how you know
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: if you used to strike out a hundred times, people
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: were like, gosh, this guy sucks. Now two hundred times
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: on every nine guys in the order is the normal.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: So I agree, make strikeouts matter. I'm going to make
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a shirt that says that. And then, last of all,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Know we're talking about the minor leagues and you managed
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: at the big league level. You've been in director of
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: player development, you're doing player development now.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Krats asked if we're doing a disservice. Here's my question.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: For the minor leagues, they play six game series they
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: have every Monday off. Okay, a starting pitcher in your organization, Well,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: we'll get to the major leagues and have never pitched
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: every fifth day, not in high school, not in college,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: not in the minor leagues. And then they get to
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: the major leagues and we're like, oh, by the way,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: you're starting in four days. You've never done this before.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: How do we get how do we this is a
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: development question, I guess, how do we get pitchers ready
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: for something at the highest pressure, the highest everything, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: they've never done it in their life before.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It's a great question. That's one of the reasons I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: can speak only to the pod raiser what we're doing
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in Double A and Triple A. The guy who starts
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday does come back and pitch on Sunday in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: that week cycle. So our guys at double and Triple
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: A there only is five man rotations there. For the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: exact reason, I don't think it's fair to ask players,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and I always bothered me at the big league level
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: when you'd ask players to do something like you talked
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: about the most stressful environment you can be in, things
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: they've never done before. And I think one of the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: things that often happened. We'd have guys that get called
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: up and had never pitched bullpen, guys pitched on back
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: to back days. We had guys do it the first
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: time ever at the big league level. You know that
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that's it's hard to ask a player to do that,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but you have to do it at the big league level.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So again I can only speak to you know what
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the padres are doing. But at the Double A and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Triple A level, we are on a five man rotation,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, as the season gets going and arm
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: strength gets built up, the relievers will go back to back.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: You got to the minor leagues are there to assimilate
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the big leagues, and you've got to have gone through
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: those things as a player at some point in your
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: career to know that you you've done it, and how
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you're gonna bounce back, How are you going to react
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to it? What does my arm feel like? I do
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: think you know, at the minor league level, now that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: they have the Mondays off, from a player development standpoint,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing I really do for
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: certainly for position players. It allows you, you know, the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: manager of those minor league teams to you know, kind
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of catch his breath. Players, you can kind of reset
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: your bullpen, and now the rosters are different size now
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: than they used to be and things like that, which
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: which are all good, is starting to keep players healthy.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But ultimately, the minor leagues are there for the big
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: leagues and getting these guys ready and hopefully you can
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: put to them in situations that they've been through before
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: so when they get to the big leagues they can
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: handle it better. But I know some teams are doing
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: that at the A ball levels. That's what we do
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: when we keep on a six man rotation there, We're
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: just trying to get them through A ball And for
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: me aj you know, the big separator and player development
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: has been the Double A level. It always has been,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: always will be. Once you get into Double A, you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: kind of cross the line. Now you're on the depth
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: chart for your major league manager and then the front
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: office there can this guy help us at some point
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: this year. So my league at the A ball levels,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it's it's just about keeping them healthy. But five man
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: rotation is crucial. I think at Double A and Triple A.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Listen, I'm proud of you for saying that. I really
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: am proud of you because It's nice to hear that
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: at least one organization understands that, hey, they got to
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: do it before they get to the big leagues with.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: All the pressures on. Now, Scott, now that I feel
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: like we're friends.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Last question, I gotta get them backwards hat then we'll
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: be tight.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's this is a serious question. I mean this seriously.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: You're now at the Padres. You just switch sides from Peoria,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: from the Mariners to the Padres. May to Poto said
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: the fifty four percent comment. I know he regrets it,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: but do you feel like aj Preler tries to win
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent of the games instead of only fifty
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: four percent of the games? Because honestly, I know what
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: he said, and I understand what he meant. But listen,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: it's just something you can't say publicly. But what's the
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: difference in the mentality of the Padres versus the Mariners.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I know they're both trying to win, but what's There's
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: definitely a difference because listen, they both trade a lot,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: they both do this, but Peler goes and makes the
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: big moves. It seems like the Poto tries to make
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: the smaller kind of moves.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Every place is different. Everybody's going to value different things
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and how they put their teams together, how they develop players,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: how they draft. I mean, payrolls are all different, you
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: know whatnot so again for me kind of seeing what
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the Pondre's done and I just came on board here
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in January, there are stark differences, There's no question about it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I think the thing that stood out for me first
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was just the number of people who work for the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Padres in the different department that they have and how
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: they're built out. It's just different. Doesn't make it right
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: or wrong or it's just a different vibe to it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: But you know, as far as trying to win every
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: game or winning one hundred and fifty four percent whatever,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I know Mike Schild is trying to win every game
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and he's done an awesome job. Just from Afar kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of seeing what's going on with our major league team
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and the staff and what the job that they did
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in preparing our guys to get ready to get off
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to a good start. Every managers has got it a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: lot to get out of the gate in a good place.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You know, keep everybody healthy. But if you can get
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: off and get off on a good start. Just the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: confidence grows. You feel it around the stadium, the fan base,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: everybody gets excited, and we did an awesome job. Credit
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to our major League staff for getting our guys ready
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to go, and the start that we're off to has
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: been fantastic. So again, it's a long season. I get
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: different teams look at different things, they value different things,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and for me it's been a great opportunity to see
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the other side of things. And again, I'm sure the Dodgers,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, the Red Sox, everybody does a little bit different.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And having spent so much time in Seattle and being
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a part of what was going on there, I'm just
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: grateful to get the opportunity to do it here and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: continue to learn.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: That's great, that's great answer.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And I also love, by the way, how the Padres
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: will do an excellent job of developing these players, but.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Then they'll train some of them there to move them.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: You've got to do that too. The ultimate goal.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: We're trying to win titles here. That's what everyone's trying
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to do. You talk to anybody, so there's no.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Better there's I don't know. I'm Scott, you've been to
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Petgo before. There is no better atmosphere than pet Go Park.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: But it is rocking. I mean, they're playing well. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: mean it's incredible. It's one of my favorite places to go,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: sit and do a game, watch a game, whatever you
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: want to call it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It's it's an incredible atmosphere.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It really is. And you know, from again from a
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: farm traveling around and I'll get to see the team
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: here in the next few weeks, spend a few days
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: around it. But on a Monday night, you know, there's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: forty five thousand people in there and they are going crazy.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: They're behind the team. And the fun thing about now Potters,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of personality on that team, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: from Tatis to Manny to boguards to the pitching staff.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of players that you can say, Okay,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite player. I'm gonna buy that guy's jersey.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And as you look.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: At the games on TV or in the ballpark, you
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: see it. Our players really connect with the community there.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: They've done an awesome job and again, it's gonna be
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: an exciting year ahead. I think the NL West this
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: year probably lines up as the toughest division in baseball.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of really good teams, good players. Oftentimes
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it comes down to who can stay the healthiest throughout
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the year and keep you guys going. But the atmosphere
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: in Siando in San Diego is just awesome.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: They've made an event at a single game, which is
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: tough to do when you've cast eighty one home games
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, you're in a great spot. Scott. This
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: was awesome.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Hope you enjoyed it, backwards hat or not. We loved
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: having you on. So hopefully again sometimes.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Watch out in San Antonio. I'm telling you watch out.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Say you care for the riverwalk?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I appreciate having me on, And the next
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: time on I will have a backwards cap. Okay, you
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: guys got it. I'm in.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I would love that. Yeah, he's a catcher, you can
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: He's used to it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Back when Scott played, they didn't even have the hard hat.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Scott played with the soft hat.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Come on, AJ, you had to go with the boat
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: clipt up.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Remember how Rick Dempsey used to the right like that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: was so cool. That was like the coolest thing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not that old. I'm not that oldj Okay, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: know agent actually, and I had to say, you got
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: traded for Joe Nathan, right, Yeah. Yeah. So I played
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: with Joe Nathan his rookie year. I was with the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Giants nineteen ninety nine and fantasy football was just coming
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: on board in the late nineties, so we decided to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: put a league together in San Francisco. And he was
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine and Joe Nathan was my fantasy football partner.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. And then all of a sudden,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: he this is what he's just showing up. I think
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Stony Brook converted shortstop. Awesome dude, and what a career
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he had. And you know, I was thinking about, you know,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: coming on the show. I'm like, damn it, I'm pretty
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: sure AJ got traded for Joe Nathan. But uh, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it's amazing the people you meet throughout your years playing, coaching, managing, whatever. Again,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it's about relationships. So it's fun to be on with
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you guys, appreciate having me on. Hopefully ill see you soon.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, By the way, I was so much better
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: than Joe Nathan.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: They also threw in two other guys from me hoof
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Bonser and Francisco Loriiano.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ajee. One team did really well, the other one, yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: not so much.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Listen, I remind that of Joe all that when I
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: played with Joe, I was like, Joe, you were so bad.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: They traded me for you and two other players. Okay,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: he figured it out.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: He figured it out.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: He is awesome.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Scott, Say travels on your trips and
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: we'll talk soon.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Sounds good. Guys, take care, Thanks for having me on