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God, Games, and Theme Parks: Sandy Solis's Blueprint for Christian Pop Culture | Episode 217 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: Welcome to another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: I am your host and founder of Voices for Voices, justin Allen Hayes.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for your love and support on this episode and all the previous episodes Over 215 at this point.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: We'll be hitting at least 300 total episodes by the end of 2025.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: And we just want to thank our viewers and listeners for sticking with us, whether this is your first episode you're just hearing about or if you've been with us since the beginning.
• 0:43
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're just hearing about or if you've been with us since the beginning.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: So we are going to dive into part two of our conversation with author Sandy Salas and, for those who haven't tuned in to part one, we're going to review some of her bio information so that, if you didn't tune into part one, you're going to get the same information, same bio info, that you got in part one.
• 1:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: So Sandy's cause is joining us on this episode.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: She you can find actually, we didn't touch on this in the first show.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: The general link to all your websites and offers can be found on LinkedIncom.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Forward slash NIN.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Forward slash Sandy.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: S-a-n-d-y dash Solis S-O-L-I-S.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Dash 5B1B3370 forward slash.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: So I want to makewingsonlinecom.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Sandy is a native of Colorado, now living in the green country of Oklahoma.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: She is, by trade, a 3D computer artist and lives on the family ranch.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: She is married with one daughter and she's a longtime student of the Bible and eschatology.
• 2:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: She's a longtime student of the Bible and eschatology.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Sandy has vlogs and animation videos and you can subscribe and keep up to date with everything that has gone on and will be going on with Sandy's work and that is at BibleRock.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: So that's B-I-B-L-E-R-O-C-K.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: That'll take you to her YouTube channel.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: She's learned that there's many types and shadows in her books.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: For example, one of her characters, jessie, not wearing a coat symbolizes no prayer covering.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: It is Sandy's vision to give an option to Harry Potter books and the like with quality Christian content, to make each book in the Spirit Wing series into full-length motion pictures, video games and other supporting products.
• 3:50
  Justin Alan Hayes: A theme park and I love this.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: A theme park is also on her list of to-dos.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Companion anime color books are also out for each book in the series and she really feels that she is called to promote the kingdom of God with all her resources.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Again, her website for the book series is spiritwingsonlinecom.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Her books are on amazoncom and you can find those as paperbacks, hardbacks and Kindle editions electronically, and she has one book on Audible for the listening audience that's out there and the rest are forthcoming.
• 4:39
  Justin Alan Hayes: As someone who is written to call them pamphlets because they're pretty, pretty short, one on my mental health story and one on some workforce preparation tips as individuals are entering the workforce internships, and, having recorded those, to have those on audible it's it's quite the task to do.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: So that's again, in the short amount of time we have really on earth and during our days, we really have to take a block of time aside to do that recording.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: So joining us again.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Part two is Sandy Salas.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: She's a prophetic novelist and, again, you can find everything about her at spiritwingsonlinecom.
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  Justin Alan Hayes: Sandy, thanks for joining us, not only for the first episode but for part two here.
• 5:45
  Sandy Solis: So much, Justin, my pleasure and thank you so much for letting me come on and it's been a real blast to talk to you and I hope people can relate and maybe find something that they would like to have.
• 5:57
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, oh, you're welcome.
• 5:59
  Justin Alan Hayes: This is just incredible, and we started to transition at the end of the first part of our conversation into those dreams and ideas that you want to transform the work that you do outside of just a book, that you want to look at video games, films, a theme park and just to even have those thoughts and dreams.
• 6:37
  Justin Alan Hayes: How, how can an individual, whether their dreams are similar to yours or different, how can an individual, whether their dreams are similar to yours or different, how can an individual just really tap into that and into their own self of you know what, if I get out of today, what can I do tomorrow and then maybe in a year or potentially five years or 10 years?
• 7:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: Can you just talk about that from your perspective?
• 7:07
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, you know, finding your identity and why you were put on the earth.
• 7:11
  Sandy Solis: Ask yourself questions like if money wasn't an issue, if I've had no restrictions, what would I want to do?
• 7:19
  Sandy Solis: And let your mind go there, because, you know, at a certain point life beats us up and we drop our dreams, you know, or we put them aside.
• 7:29
  Sandy Solis: And so, yeah, it's that inner reflection and partnering with God is good.
• 7:35
  Sandy Solis: You know, he made us, he knows what we're perfect at and what has the most satisfaction and what would really be the biggest blast for us when we find out what he says we are.
• 7:48
  Sandy Solis: You know, that can be life-changing and that identity and that purpose it really brought me through my teenage years.
• 7:55
  Sandy Solis: I'm called, I've got a purpose.
• 7:57
  Sandy Solis: So I didn't wander around aimlessly and maybe dabble in things I shouldn't because I had that focus, that sense of identity, that sense of calling.
• 8:05
  Sandy Solis: And so for young adults, you know, and those in their formative years, it's really good to look inside.
• 8:13
  Sandy Solis: Why am I here, what should I be doing?
• 8:16
  Sandy Solis: And I've always had that sense.
• 8:17
  Sandy Solis: I don't want to have regret at the end of my life, sitting there in the rocking chair, you know, on the back porch.
• 8:24
  Sandy Solis: Wish I had tried that.
• 8:26
  Sandy Solis: I wish I would have gone for it.
• 8:28
  Sandy Solis: I wish a risk and reward.
• 8:29
  Sandy Solis: You know, I don't want everyone to to lay hold of that the best and not just drag through.
• 8:37
  Sandy Solis: This is it.
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  Sandy Solis: We don't get a rerun, you know, we don't get to try again.
• 8:40
  Sandy Solis: Life to go.
• 8:42
  Sandy Solis: No, this is it.
• 8:43
  Sandy Solis: So we gotta go for it.
• 8:45
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah yeah, and when it?
• 8:48
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, yeah, we only get one shot, uh, and I I even think about, as a lot of people really have is, you know, there's gonna be critics along along the no matter what.
• 9:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: No matter you look at celebrities, for whatever reasons, or artists, and no matter how popular, how much money or however we want to look at things that they have, there's still going to be people that just that they're not interested and they just don't care for a person or for things that they've, they've done or that they're a part of.
• 9:31
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, and I think that's important also, uh, that having having dreams and kind of day-to-day knowing that there's going to be people that are going to be on board with with what we're doing, and then there's going to be people that are going to be on board with what we're doing, and then there's going to be some detractors, and I think that's just a hard mental task to go through, to not beat ourselves up with.
• 9:57
  Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, you got some negative feedback or the analytics aren't showing for a period of time and you start questioning yeah, I'm gonna have a kind of a thick skin and not take things personally.
• 10:14
  Sandy Solis: You know, and just know that it's like the books they're not for everybody, but there are for some, and and we want to connect with the ones that it's a good fit for and and so, yeah, you know, writers get a lot of rejections, especially if you send out, um, those things trying to get publishers and stuff.
• 10:33
  Sandy Solis: You gotta even like actors when they apply for a movie, you know, and they get rejected.
• 10:38
  Sandy Solis: I didn't get the role, um.
• 10:40
  Sandy Solis: So, yeah, you gotta have a little bit of a thick skin and just stay eagle-eyed, focused on fulfilling your calling, being true to who you are and partnering with a Godhead.
• 10:54
  Justin Alan Hayes: And so on the flip side.
• 10:54
  Justin Alan Hayes: So when you do get positive feedback, how's that you know?
• 10:59
  Justin Alan Hayes: From an emotional standpoint, how's that make you feel and is that part of the feel that keeps you going?
• 11:06
  Sandy Solis: it's great to get feedback.
• 11:07
  Sandy Solis: It really is, um, like my audiobook.
• 11:09
  Sandy Solis: I've just only had it out about a week and I do voices and accents for each character, so I'm waiting to see if everybody says you sound like a crazy person or so.
• 11:19
  Sandy Solis: Depending on my feedback, that's how I'll do the rest of the books.
• 11:22
  Sandy Solis: Am I just going to read them on a ton and then they went up to them, or am I going to use the accents?
• 11:28
  Sandy Solis: And so, yeah, I like the feedback good or bad because it helps me understand what people see and how they react to it and, especially in the demographics that I want to reach, I like to hear feedback from them.
• 11:44
  Sandy Solis: Is this relatable?
• 11:45
  Sandy Solis: It was a too churchy, you know, and and different things.
• 11:50
  Sandy Solis: So, yeah, feedback is good, but also, you know, I can't get a big head and get okay, I've arrived, I'm somebody now.
• 11:57
  Sandy Solis: So you know, plus, plus, like with marketing, I have a coach and he'll say OK, we need to change such and such, and I always know I can't get too attached because I've got to be light on my feet, I've got to make adjustments and be flexible to make the changes that necessary to make the product very quality.
• 12:18
  Sandy Solis: So there's a lot that can affect your ego, your emotions, your sense of well-being.
• 12:23
  Sandy Solis: But there's an expression if you don't quit, you win.
• 12:26
  Sandy Solis: And be that bulldog that's pulling on that rope.
• 12:30
  Sandy Solis: You know, I have that analogy God's got that rope and that's your calling, your purpose, and you're the bulldog and you grab and hold and you're having fun, you're growling, you're doing the thing, but God lifts you off the ground with a rope.
• 12:43
  Sandy Solis: Your promises you're holding on to them, you're looking at God, but everything you're losing your footing.
• 12:48
  Sandy Solis: You know that's part of trusting God.
• 12:50
  Sandy Solis: Don't let go of that rope.
• 12:51
  Sandy Solis: Even when things get crazy, keep your focus on your purpose and ride it out, and you'll be so glad you did.
• 13:00
  Sandy Solis: I can be stubborn, but it's a good thing.
• 13:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, it sure is, and you've talked about this on both of our episodes different people, groups, individuals that you bounce ideas off each other for you and for somebody who may shy away from those opportunities and just be like.
• 13:29
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know, what I say is the highway, every single time.
• 13:33
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, yeah, it's almost like having your own little think tank where you can people you can trust that you value, you know what they say, or if you make your own little think tank, like I do, having a party with kids who've all read the book, a little homes group, homeschooler group, you know, and, and it was so valuable to me and it was great to hear that they liked it, you know it's okay.
• 13:57
  Sandy Solis: Maybe I've got something that's really a value here, and so, yeah, yeah, if it's one thing god told me beginning is that my calling, my mystery, is a tapestry of many colors.
• 14:10
  Sandy Solis: So the more people involved, the more color in my tapestry.
• 14:14
  Sandy Solis: And like, if you buy an oriental rug, the more colors in it, the more expensive it is, and so that's my mindset.
• 14:21
  Sandy Solis: Okay, I need to connect with people and the right people and that will add color and get this thing done.
• 14:28
  Sandy Solis: So, yeah, don't be a loner on this thing, get help, find someone to mentor you.
• 14:34
  Sandy Solis: It's hard for me.
• 14:35
  Sandy Solis: I need a Christian.
• 14:38
  Sandy Solis: Walt Disney person to mentor me and help me, because I had to figure it out.
• 14:45
  Sandy Solis: I had to figure out how to get in the library at Congress.
• 14:48
  Sandy Solis: I had to figure out how to get my books and create space on Amazon.
• 14:52
  Sandy Solis: I figured out how to do my audio book, get it approved, that the sound quality was there.
• 14:58
  Sandy Solis: Trial and error.
• 14:59
  Sandy Solis: But if I had some mentors, man, that would have been so much easier.
• 15:04
  Sandy Solis: So at this point in my life, if someone wants help, I say okay, I'm helping you because I sure wish I had it.
• 15:07
  Sandy Solis: So, yeah, find a mentor, find people that are doing the same thing.
• 15:12
  Sandy Solis: Join a writer's group if you're a writer, and don't be a lone wolf, for sure.
• 15:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: One of my downfalls that I many times do try to go at it myself and get limited feedback and take that and that's something that I'm learning from our guests like yourself, of that importance of talking to people, getting feedback and kind of along those same lines.
• 15:50
  Justin Alan Hayes: There's going to be groups that are healthy and good and then there's going to be groups that might not be, where on the outside everything looks great, but then once you get in and you start seeing some posts, uh, and it's like wait a minute, like I, I thought you know we were going in this direction, and now it's here's like the bait and switch, like hey, come join us, come join us.
• 16:17
  Justin Alan Hayes: Then when you join, it's it, it things turn dark and it's not healthy for anybody.
• 16:24
  Justin Alan Hayes: So I think I kind of relate this for me to a therapist, and so I've had several therapists and not everyone, not every therapist, not the first one that you talk to that you meet with is going to be the right fit.
• 16:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: And I think it's the same thing with working through that process with whether it's facebook groups or other groups or other individuals or mentors that you have to find what works and what is healthy for for you, because you don't want to come out of a situation or a conversation and be like, wow, like I had this.
• 17:08
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know these questions and I didn't get them answered.
• 17:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: And it I heard the answers to other people's questions and didn't sound like they were helping them, and so I think letting people know that it's not a bad thing to you know that trial and error of let me try this, this might work, this might not.
• 17:28
  Justin Alan Hayes: And kind of to your point earlier about you know, being flexible and being able to pivot when you, when you get feedback and you're like, oh, wow, like this, I wouldn't have thought about that because, like I am, you get kind of zoned in and then when somebody says something, wait a minute, we can't change that because this is exactly how I want to do it.
• 17:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: And to get that feedback helps open up those additional demographics, which is ultimately one of the big things that you're aiming for, right.
• 18:05
  Sandy Solis: Right, yeah, and just having a soundboard, even your best friend or whatever.
• 18:09
  Sandy Solis: It's funny when you process something out loud it's like, oh, compared to internal thought.
• 18:16
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Sandy Solis: And so, yeah, find somebody that you can bounce ideas off of and process Okay, I'm really having trouble with this and blah, blah, blah and it's a release.
• 18:25
  Sandy Solis: You know, and you know therapists I wish everybody could have a therapist, really, I mean everybody should have someone to help them to deal with things and find a healthy ways to deal with things, everybody at some point in their life.
• 18:37
  Sandy Solis: You know if, especially if you don't have a lot of people you can call, that are not good listeners, you know there should not be a stigma on having a therapist.
• 18:46
  Sandy Solis: It should be.
• 18:46
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, that's a normal, healthy thing to have.
• 18:50
  Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely, and I, I, I I equated to is you're able to share what's going on and in your life, and to your point, like a sounding board.
• 19:04
  Justin Alan Hayes: That right, uh, that sharing and talking about experiences and different events and things that have occurred, uh, it's very, very similar to uh, to writing or other forms of expression, or what we call like voices, so that they can speak, they're able to speak and that's their voice.
• 19:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: Or, if they play music, that could be their voice, if they play sport, that could be their outlet.
• 19:38
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, yeah, and just having that is huge, I think.
• 19:44
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Sandy Solis: That's modeled in the book with the main character, jesse.
• 19:48
  Sandy Solis: He's assigned to a group, a team and two girls.
• 19:53
  Sandy Solis: And you say, oh man, why I stick with two girls age 15.
• 19:57
  Sandy Solis: But he would pull back and not talk and be quiet because of his trauma.
• 20:02
  Sandy Solis: And they would always say you know, jesse, talk to us, tell us what's going on and be quiet because of his trauma.
• 20:04
  Sandy Solis: And they would always say you know, jesse, talk to us, tell us what's going on and be transparent, you know.
• 20:09
  Sandy Solis: And he said I'm not ready, I'm not ready to talk about it yet.
• 20:12
  Sandy Solis: And so that's modeled to show people you know, don't be a lone wolf and verbalize things.
• 20:18
  Sandy Solis: Be transparent and don't say, yeah, I'm fine, everything's fine.
• 20:22
  Sandy Solis: Find someone who's a good listener.
• 20:25
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and yeah, I think it's.
• 20:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, they're athletes and I know they have sports psychologists and they have.
• 20:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: They have people that they talk to, and that's on one end of the spectrum.
• 20:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: But just as us, you know, kind of like you know regular people, we still have things that you know can bother us to just even talking about it's like wow, like I, if I wouldn't have been able to share this then now, whether you get all the answers and I mean that's another question, that's another side of things.
• 21:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: But just the actual sharing and kind of having somebody as a, as a sounding board, or just just listening and being supportive and then moving you away from some ideas if they're unhealthy and it's, it's something I've I learned to 37 years, I'm 43 now, so kind of working on, kind of taking myself from one one version of myself into this version and voice for voices and and that, and I feel more, uh, I would say, emotionally tied to what we're doing, because we're we're human beings and we all have feelings, whether we want to talk about them or not, and we all kind of have those things that we excel at.
• 21:56
  Justin Alan Hayes: And with you being, uh, not just an author but a creator, uh, can you share?
• 22:04
  Justin Alan Hayes: If somebody is a writer, they don't know how to get started, that they might just have a notebook and they don't know if it's a book or a short story.
• 22:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: Are there any steps that you could share with them?
• 22:24
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, I would recommend set like five days a week at five o'clock in the afternoon I'm sitting down.
• 22:30
  Sandy Solis: Don't miss that space.
• 22:32
  Sandy Solis: That's my time.
• 22:33
  Sandy Solis: Whether you know anything to write down or not, you have a set time that you're going to sit down and be consistent and sit there.
• 22:42
  Sandy Solis: Okay, I got my stuff and just spill out whatever you got.
• 22:48
  Sandy Solis: You know, put it on paper.
• 22:49
  Sandy Solis: You can change it later, you know.
• 22:50
  Sandy Solis: Or, and like I said before, if you hear something, write it down, say it on your phone three in the end and then go with it.
• 22:58
  Sandy Solis: Even if it's a one sentence, even if it's a general gist of something, sit down and start fleshing it out.
• 23:03
  Sandy Solis: Show up, show up consistently, and something will develop.
• 23:07
  Sandy Solis: You know, if you sit there for about a minute and a half and say I got nothing to get up, you know, no, sit there a little bit longer and and and be able to catch your mind on the storyline, not on what you're going to have for supper, you know and stuff.
• 23:22
  Sandy Solis: It's a discipline.
• 23:23
  Sandy Solis: You have to be intentional, but stuff will happen and it'll start to flow.
• 23:28
  Sandy Solis: I've never had writer's block.
• 23:30
  Sandy Solis: I've been have had Holy Spirit block where.
• 23:32
  Sandy Solis: I just you know, haven't heard, you know, but I learned.
• 23:37
  Sandy Solis: You know you can't just have that.
• 23:38
  Sandy Solis: Things are going to happen the same way every time.
• 23:40
  Sandy Solis: You know God mixes things up and and so you're gonna be flexible.
• 23:43
  Justin Alan Hayes: But yeah, you gotta go for it, be consistent and have that time yeah, all the, you know all the, all the shots you don't take, you know you're, you're gonna miss them.
• 23:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: And and and not every, not every time the person sits down are they gonna have that exact creative juices flowing?
• 24:06
  Justin Alan Hayes: And even like a an artist writing a song, that sometimes the thoughts and the topics come at different times and, as you mentioned, you know 3 am.
• 24:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah and you're like, like why didn't that come to me when I was sitting down?
• 24:25
  Justin Alan Hayes: earlier today, yeah, and and so just and I think that kind of goes to your point of just being being flexible, of okay, if there is a moment and there is content, just write it down Now, whether that turns into something or not, that's, you know that that's kind of to be determined, but just write it down.
• 24:46
  Justin Alan Hayes: You know, do a voice note and the phone, just because we never know what's going to turn out to be a hit.
• 24:59
  Sandy Solis: I think so many people that say, oh, I have a book in me, but they're not saying I'm sitting down and writing the book that's in me, you know.
• 25:06
  Sandy Solis: And so, yeah, all you people that you're carrying that seed in, you put it in the ground, let it bloom, you know, develop it, go with it.
• 25:13
  Sandy Solis: Yeah now.
• 25:17
  Justin Alan Hayes: Is that hard to do?
• 25:18
  Justin Alan Hayes: So I found it's hard for me to, it's not hard for me to plant the seed.
• 25:23
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, it's hard for me to take a step back and let the process of watering and the, the sun and and all those things that I'm like, I just, you know, I just did this, so I, I want that tree to grow like right now and being, yeah, being, I guess, how do you, how do you stay being intentional, intention and yeah.
• 25:54
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, it's like if I don't have any storyline, I'll go back and I'll read the the chapter beforehand, look through stuff and and and that seems to help.
• 26:04
  Sandy Solis: And then by time're through reading that chapter and you read the three pages or paragraphs or sentences that you did write.
• 26:10
  Sandy Solis: Okay, I know where to go.
• 26:12
  Sandy Solis: You know it's getting in there and it's settling in.
• 26:15
  Sandy Solis: You're in your mood and look things over and consistently set time every five days, a week or whatever.
• 26:24
  Sandy Solis: That that's what you're going to do and it will develop.
• 26:27
  Sandy Solis: Things will go.
• 26:28
  Sandy Solis: You get inspired by something.
• 26:31
  Sandy Solis: Make a note, yeah.
• 26:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, so talking about a theme park, what would be some of the things that would be in the theme park that you're envisioning?
• 26:47
  Sandy Solis: The general gist is that it would kind of be like Universal Studios and the Harry Potter Wizarding World, only it would be Kingdom of God world, so different events would be going in and see worship in the style of Chinese, and here's a culture, worship of another country and all the stuff about the books, and does that make a general gist?
• 27:16
  Sandy Solis: You know, there's going to be rides that match the book storyline and maybe castle structures, because the books there's a lot of gothic structures on the Spirit Wings Academy and stuff.
• 27:30
  Sandy Solis: So yeah, a fun place, very clean, cultured, moral, uh, and it doesn't glorify wizards and and and dark things uh.
• 27:40
  Sandy Solis: And yeah, I don't want to give the name away because uh, oh, no, no, yeah, I don't want to.
• 27:47
  Sandy Solis: I don't take anything confidential like that and I want it to be high quality.
• 27:50
  Sandy Solis: Uh, you know, like going to disney world on that level.
• 27:54
  Sandy Solis: Would that spend that much money, that much creativity and and I'm always asking god, where, where's a good venue?
• 28:00
  Sandy Solis: Where?
• 28:00
  Sandy Solis: What should we put this thing, you know, and who's got the uh structures and the roads and the hotels and stuff that support that kind of thing?
• 28:08
  Sandy Solis: So it'll be really fun to see how that develops yeah, no, that that's fantastic.
• 28:14
  Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, I'm just talking about the area and the hotels and uh, that that.
• 28:20
  Justin Alan Hayes: That that kind of reminds me, as you're talking about editing, like that's not the fun part of like the fun part is designing the rides and the worlds, but as far as where it's going to be and you know the roads and the structures and hotels where people can get from the hotel to to the theme park, uh, it is not the fun part, but it is very, uh, very important uh to to get people to to that.
• 28:49
  Sandy Solis: Uh, wow, oh, yeah, I need to be connecting with some people engineers, you know, producers and all sorts of stuff so it'll really be fun and that's most of like when people make movies they seem like everything became family.
• 29:06
  Sandy Solis: You know Lord of the Rings they all got matching tattoos.
• 29:09
  Sandy Solis: You know they got close tattoos.
• 29:15
  Sandy Solis: You know they got close, they connected.
• 29:16
  Sandy Solis: And you know God likes things on a heart to heart level and those relationships and being a part of a family, even if it's a movie.
• 29:21
  Sandy Solis: Family is a beautiful thing, and so I got to enjoy that process and connect with the ones that have the same heart and the same vision to help me get all this stuff accomplished.
• 29:33
  Justin Alan Hayes: So I'm looking forward to it and then probably the same thought process around video games, of having, as far as the themes, whether there's multiple video games based one on each uh book in the series or however that, that that thought process like similar in the theme?
• 29:56
  Sandy Solis: yeah, you gotta figure out.
• 29:57
  Sandy Solis: You know is it was.
• 29:58
  Sandy Solis: Is it a free campus university?
• 30:01
  Sandy Solis: You can roam around freely or you have to stay within the storyline?
• 30:04
  Sandy Solis: I forgot all those terms.
• 30:05
  Sandy Solis: I have lists of them no, I believe you're doing games.
• 30:07
  Sandy Solis: But yeah, see, like I even got um merchandise.
• 30:11
  Sandy Solis: So I love it stuff, stuff going on t-shirts.
• 30:14
  Sandy Solis: It wants to be fun for people, especially for the teens.
• 30:20
  Sandy Solis: The young adults have something for their identity, something to collect.
• 30:23
  Sandy Solis: That's not the alien with the teeth hanging down t-shirt.
• 30:29
  Sandy Solis: We want options, give them options.
• 30:35
  Justin Alan Hayes: It's something that could be easy or a little hard to talk about is, you know, age where people can look at an individual and say, oh well, you know.
• 30:49
  Justin Alan Hayes: Or look at themselves and say, oh, I'm, I'm this age, so my creative time times up and I like to look at not that I'm endorsing Kentucky Fried Chicken, but Colonel Sanders.
• 31:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: I believe he was in his 70s or late 60s when kind of the idea came and I think that should be a healthy reminder to people that it doesn't matter the age that an individual is, whether they're going to be able to have a global impact and do some of the things and helping as many people as possible.
• 31:29
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, I think it elongates your life when you're in your golden years.
• 31:33
  Sandy Solis: If you've got purpose, you've got a reason to get up in the morning.
• 31:35
  Sandy Solis: You know, especially men.
• 31:37
  Sandy Solis: You know when they retire from their money-making job.
• 31:40
  Sandy Solis: Where's their identity?
• 31:42
  Sandy Solis: Who am I?
• 31:42
  Sandy Solis: I'm worthless.
• 31:43
  Sandy Solis: You hear some people that are retired feel.
• 31:47
  Sandy Solis: So, yeah, when you have that purpose, that identity, you have that calling why I was born.
• 31:52
  Sandy Solis: You have that calling why I was born.
• 31:57
  Sandy Solis: Uh, it'll get you up in the morning and make you take care of yourself, because you got to be able to live long enough to get everything done.
• 32:00
  Sandy Solis: So it's good, it's healthy and it's necessary.
• 32:02
  Sandy Solis: Otherwise you're just bouncing aimlessly through life, you know.
• 32:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: So, yeah, everybody needs to find a place and I think that's probably where a lot of your energy comes from too is because you, your mind's constantly in motion and you, you're constantly have ideas.
• 32:19
  Justin Alan Hayes: And you're not just having ideas, but you're uh, you're following through on on them too, so you're able to say, okay, here are the things I've done, which sometimes can be hard to be like, oh well, I'm worthless and I haven't done anything.
• 32:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: But then you take a step back and go, wow, here are the books I've read.
• 32:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: And then here there's the feedback, and I think a big thing is not to beat ourselves up.
• 32:47
  Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, it's easy to say hard to do.
• 32:50
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, it's very cool to know that you're leaving a legacy, and especially, like the books that are timeless, you know that maybe 10, 20 years, other generations can relate to it and it still has value.
• 33:04
  Sandy Solis: It's still, you know, a legit thing.
• 33:07
  Sandy Solis: So, yeah, it's cool to have that and a legacy is a big thing to have that.
• 33:12
  Sandy Solis: And a legacy is a big thing.
• 33:13
  Sandy Solis: And everyone needs some sort of a legacy, whether it's just they raise their children and their children are strong, productive, healthy people.
• 33:26
  Sandy Solis: That's a legacy, you know.
• 33:27
  Justin Alan Hayes: So it's very satisfying when you see a legacy that is developing in your own life.
• 33:30
  Justin Alan Hayes: Great Well, we're coming to the end of our second part.
• 33:45
  Sandy Solis: Is there anything we missed that you want to add?
• 33:47
  Sandy Solis: And then obviously put your plugs in if the books fit for your kids.
• 33:51
  Sandy Solis: I do recommend 13 and up, a mature.
• 33:54
  Sandy Solis: 13 is a young adult fantasy book series, but parents would know.
• 33:59
  Sandy Solis: And for those older kids, college kids or whatever, check it out, see if it's something that fits you and you can even join a community for like eight bucks a month and get exclusive content and so that's all fun, fun stuff.
• 34:14
  Sandy Solis: And they can even put things into the, you know, like they're always on a play, they put a little shot of the play in there and stuff.
• 34:21
  Sandy Solis: So it's a community, it's a family spirit.
• 34:24
  Sandy Solis: Wings army is called, so you'll find that in the link.
• 34:27
  Sandy Solis: Uh, there's where it says the link community.
• 34:31
  Sandy Solis: Come and join it.
• 34:32
  Sandy Solis: And you know the color books, you know it's fun stuff so.
• 34:38
  Justin Alan Hayes: Oh yeah.
• 34:39
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, big, big color books.
• 34:40
  Sandy Solis: So for young adults you know teens and stuff, and uh, and if you're, uh, a game writer or um, something that I've mentioned, contact me through the websites and see if God calls us to work together.
• 34:57
  Sandy Solis: Hey, I need translators.
• 35:00
  Sandy Solis: I need to reach Korea and China.
• 35:02
  Sandy Solis: God gripped my heart for them.
• 35:04
  Sandy Solis: I'm learning both languages.
• 35:06
  Sandy Solis: I'm going to those countries myself, so I need translators for those books.
• 35:11
  Sandy Solis: So, like a single egg just doubled into two, you know the English speaking and then the Asian, so I've got a lot going on.
• 35:19
  Sandy Solis: If there's something that you have that can contribute to my vision, feel free to contact me and let's talk.
• 35:26
  Sandy Solis: And, justin, it's been a joy and a pleasure to be on your show.
• 35:31
  Sandy Solis: And I'm just grateful for it and I just bless you and your listeners.
• 35:35
  Sandy Solis: May this be the best year that all of us has ever had.
• 35:40
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, you got it.
• 35:41
  Justin Alan Hayes: You're welcome.
• 35:42
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, the door's always open in the future that we can link up again and share.
• 35:51
  Sandy Solis: I want to get my movie contract.
• 35:52
  Sandy Solis: Hey, Justin, you want to talk?
• 35:55
  Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 35:55
  Sandy Solis: Yeah, be blessed.
• 36:03
  Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah Well, thank you, sandy, for joining us for two episodes.
• 36:05
  Justin Alan Hayes: I know you're busy, got a lot going on, so to take that time out.
• 36:07
  Justin Alan Hayes: We really appreciate it and our viewers, our listeners.
• 36:11
  Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for sticking with us and if you're a new listener viewer, go back and subscribe and give us a thumbs up and like our TV show and podcast, and we are just grateful to have been able to spend this time with Sandy.
• 36:32
  Justin Alan Hayes: It is so invigorating, so inspiring.
• 36:36
  Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, and we know that's going to inspire at least one person.
• 36:43
  Justin Alan Hayes: Well, we know more than at least one person, it's going to be more than that.
• 36:46
  Justin Alan Hayes: That's right, one, one at a time and, uh, we'll, we'll move forward like that.
• 36:53
  Justin Alan Hayes: So until next time, thank you for joining us and please be a voice or for you or somebody in need.
• 37:02
  Justin Alan Hayes: Take care.