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  Speaker 1: He was the list.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, You're listening to the Philadelphia Sports Table
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  Speaker 2: way here at the end of twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: Hope you've all had a great holiday season that it's
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  Speaker 3: it's quite a time in the world of Philly sports.
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  Speaker 3: But guess what, folks, We're not gonna be getting into it.
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  Speaker 3: We're not gonna be getting into Philly sports because we've
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  Speaker 3: got a music discussion coming your way this week with
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  Speaker 3: a couple gentlemen and myself. We're gonna be going back
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  Speaker 3: in time back to two thousand and four. What were
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  Speaker 3: the best albums of that year? And it's amazing some
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  Speaker 3: of the stuff we all listen to back then, some
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  Speaker 3: good stuff, some dog crap as well. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 3: into some crap albums too. But to introduce my co
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  Speaker 3: hosts this week and the gentlemen that are gonna be
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  Speaker 3: taking us through their lists, We've got our buddy who
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  Speaker 3: you know very well, Eric Leonard. Eric, how you doing
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  Speaker 3: man Bred?
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  Speaker 1: We should should have recorded the beginning of a show,
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  Speaker 1: me just trying to figure out the new soundboard, and
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  Speaker 1: I sound like our other coast lenn at one point,
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming. Yeah, this is always one of my favorite shows.
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  Speaker 1: Though I love the end of year music looking back shows.
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  Speaker 1: Is there always a lot of fun?
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  Speaker 3: They are, They're a ton of fun. And they're always
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  Speaker 3: fun too because we have our other co host this week,
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  Speaker 3: our good friend Mark lacass. He's been on the show
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  Speaker 3: a number of times. We've done some movie reviews, we've
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  Speaker 3: done some music talking with him as well. Mark Buddy,
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  Speaker 3: thanks for joining us, man.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Jeff, It's always great to be
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  Speaker 4: back rapping about about music. And yeah, I kind of
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  Speaker 4: agree with Eric. I wish we had kind of heard
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  Speaker 4: some of his setup kind of it sounded like a
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  Speaker 4: like a Japanese noise, like mersbo type. Yeah, so what
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  Speaker 4: you know, what'd fitting great? The favorite albums discussion with.
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  Speaker 1: English swearing involved a lot of English swearing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, absolutely, yes. All right, Well, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 3: back to two thousand and four now, folks, and we'd
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  Speaker 3: love to hear what your best albums were from that year.
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  Speaker 3: But we all we also wanted to dive into and
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  Speaker 3: let's get into it first, some of the worst albums
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  Speaker 3: of that year, but we also, uh you know, wanted
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  Speaker 3: to We're gonna do it real quick, I think, right,
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  Speaker 3: I've got a list of five five worst albums that
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to just go through really quick. Okay, are
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  Speaker 3: you guys cool with that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right? So number five for me, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: stop me if you need to at any point, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the same with you, guys. Number five
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  Speaker 3: for me is Drowning Pool Desensitized. It sucked. Number four
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  Speaker 3: Good Charlotte The Chronicles of Life and Death. It sucked.
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  Speaker 3: The band stinks too. Number three is Cake Pressure Chief.
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  Speaker 3: I hope I'm not mentioning any of your best albums, guys.
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  Speaker 3: And then we have number two.
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  Speaker 1: What you've avoided them? You've definitely avoided them so far.
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  Speaker 1: You're good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's hope that. Let's hope the trend continues. Number
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  Speaker 3: two Poper Roach Getting Away with Murder sucked. Popa Roach stinks.
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  Speaker 3: And number one had to put it on here because
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  Speaker 3: I could only get through a few songs back in
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  Speaker 3: the day and even listening to it recently. Is Lenny
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  Speaker 3: Kravitz's Baptism A lot of shitty Oh did it really
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  Speaker 3: a lot of shitty rock music without much soul to
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  Speaker 3: it at all? Guys, I don't know if please tell me,
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  Speaker 3: were any of my worst albums any of your best albums?
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all, Jeff, I'll go into mine real fast.
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  Speaker 1: I have three, okay to you just mentioned and we'll
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  Speaker 1: go through and briefly, but just looking back to the
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  Speaker 1: best of worst of lists. Like, what a weird year
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  Speaker 1: for music, honestly, like mainstream music, you know, just I
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was a transition year. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: you're hitting puberty or you're getting your early twenties, you're
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  Speaker 1: still trying to figure things out. Bands were trying to
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  Speaker 1: an artist were trying to figure out their thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Lenny Kravitz Baptism. I actually went back and listened
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  Speaker 1: to a little bit today, and it was his attempt
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  Speaker 1: to finally be like I am prince. Yes, like he
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  Speaker 1: had always been going in that direction, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: he was so he was so like pompous to name
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  Speaker 1: it baptism, like this is it, I am now prince everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and that.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't even in the realm.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, and every song on that album. Like there
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  Speaker 1: the three albums I picked is the common thread is
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  Speaker 1: each artist was trying way too.
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  Speaker 3: Hard, Okay, and really yeah, go ahead, No, I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna say before I get what you said was really poignant,
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  Speaker 3: and Mark two, I want to get your thoughts on
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  Speaker 3: this too. You said it was that period of time
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  Speaker 3: and music, rock music, especially where folks hitting it was
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  Speaker 3: like bands hitting puberty, you know, trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: And I wanted to bring this up because when we
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  Speaker 3: get to best albums like my number five really has
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  Speaker 3: a lot to do with that. So I just wanted
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  Speaker 3: to throw that out there kind of as a teaser.
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  Speaker 3: But I really think that this year was important, Eric,
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  Speaker 3: because I think he nailed it because it was when
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  Speaker 3: bands were really trying to just figure things out, where
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  Speaker 3: the industry was going, what genres were going to become,
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  Speaker 3: quote more mainstream? Was rock and roll dead at that point,
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  Speaker 3: as a lot of folks back then thought that it was.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know, Mark, if you had any thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I hear what you're saying. And for
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  Speaker 4: sure like pop punk was on its last legs that year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you mentioned good Charlotte, Oh, I was looking
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  Speaker 4: at some of the other albums that came out that year,
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  Speaker 4: Some forty one had also released an album. I think
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  Speaker 4: pop punk was sort of like on its way out,
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  Speaker 4: and then emo rock, which kind of like borrowed heavily
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  Speaker 4: from pop punk. But yeah, I had like a like
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  Speaker 4: like my uh it was like my Chemical Romance. They
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  Speaker 4: were huge that year. So yeah, it was It was
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  Speaker 4: an interesting time. But I don't think that rock is
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  Speaker 4: you know, they they're always saying that rock is dead,
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  Speaker 4: but there's always albums out there that prove that notion wrong.
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  Speaker 4: You just need to dig a little bit deeper for them.
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  Speaker 4: They're just not in the mainstream.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. Yeah, no, it's a really good point. Eric.
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  Speaker 3: You want to talk about your three albums here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll say too. The genre of hip hop
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  Speaker 1: was a weird year as well. For two thousand and four,
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  Speaker 1: the underground hip hop scene was just I have two
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  Speaker 1: honorable mentions that MF. Doom was, you know, involved with,
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  Speaker 1: and two thousand and four was a killer year for
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  Speaker 1: underground hip hop and it really kind of laid the
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  Speaker 1: like kind of set the table going forward for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the hip hop that came out, you know, afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: but like there were still those artists from the late nineties,
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  Speaker 1: like trying to Hang On for Dear Life, like Chingey
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  Speaker 1: had a record that was horrible. Nelly put out like
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  Speaker 1: C sides, which it was like, dude, you barely have
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  Speaker 1: a sides, Like, you should not be releasing B sides already.
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  Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, that was really struck by
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  Speaker 1: the list of hip hop records that came out that
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  Speaker 1: year as well. But the Lady Kravitz record is probably
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  Speaker 1: the worst one. So much you want about him, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, the opening Rift to Fly Away whatever, the
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  Speaker 1: song is pretty killer. It's rock rift, it's catchy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he covered an American woman. It was huge. But this
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  Speaker 1: was his record where he was like, Okay, I'm making
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  Speaker 1: a statement, I'm taking to Prince Mantle and the songs
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  Speaker 1: they're just they're really, really bad. The first the opening
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  Speaker 1: track is Minister of rock and Roll. If that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: tell you where his head was at, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: so bad. And he did a song with jay Z
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  Speaker 1: trying to stay relevant, and that song is horrible and
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  Speaker 1: just just I don't like where his career went after that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, his highlight was a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you guys saw it during COVID where
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  Speaker 1: he was on stage at one point and he was
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  Speaker 1: rocking out and his leather pants ripped and his balls
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  Speaker 1: came tumbling out. I was just imagining him making baptism
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  Speaker 1: and everyone kissing his ass, going here, Prince Man, you
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  Speaker 1: did it. And then you know, fast forward twenty years
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  Speaker 1: later and his balls are scaring every all his fans out.
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  Speaker 1: But the Papa Roach record was on my list. Too
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  Speaker 1: good again. Another band just like Last Resort came out
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  Speaker 1: like what ninety eight, ninety nine, and they were like
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  Speaker 1: twenty three years old. You fast forward like six years,
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  Speaker 1: you're almost thirty, and you're still you're still doing the
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  Speaker 1: You're still angsty. Yeah, and your your your tips are
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  Speaker 1: even more blonde now because you're saying you're you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to be extreme or whatever it is. And the music
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  Speaker 1: is just so bad and they're trying so hard to
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  Speaker 1: capture that that angst of the late nineties just wasn't there.
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  Speaker 3: How are they? How are they headlining festivals these days?
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get too off topic, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: but just it drives me nuts when I see popa
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  Speaker 3: Roach headlining festivals.
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  Speaker 1: This country loves nothing more than yeah, nostalgia. It's just yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They would like like moms that used to love them
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  Speaker 1: take their kids and they're like, I used to love
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  Speaker 1: these guys in the the kids are I'm sure, Like
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  Speaker 1: that guy's a dork. He's like forty five.
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  Speaker 4: Like they just want to hear the one song and
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  Speaker 4: then and then they're out of there.
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  Speaker 3: And then they're done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeeah. And and and the one you didn't list
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  Speaker 1: it's not even for the music because you just it sucked.
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  Speaker 1: It had no chance of being good. But Geene Simmons
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  Speaker 1: put a record out called Asshole and there you go,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just the classic, like you're not an asshole anymore,
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  Speaker 1: Like no one cares about you. You're trying to be edgy.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than edge lords in their fifties or sixties.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's over, dude, It's been over for decades
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  Speaker 1: from you. And you put this out trying to be
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  Speaker 1: extreme and scare people, and it's like you barely scared
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  Speaker 1: people in the seventies with the blood thing, and like
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  Speaker 1: you're worth billions of dollars. Like it's just one of
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  Speaker 1: those weird albums, like I won't even go over to
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  Speaker 1: the music. It was more so just the concept of it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the common theme was like all three artists
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  Speaker 1: were trying so freaking hard to capture whatever the hell
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  Speaker 1: they had going on previously, and it's just just fell
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  Speaker 1: dead flat.
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  Speaker 3: I love those three, Mark, Buddy, what what are your
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  Speaker 3: worst album before we get to the best albums here?
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  Speaker 3: I mean you, you obviously had Gene Simmons on your
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  Speaker 3: on your list there. What other guys did you have
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  Speaker 3: or other artists and bands?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so I had a full top five, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: go from least shitty to most shitty? Uh? Number five?
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  Speaker 4: Number five Aerosmith Honking on Bobo.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes, I saw that. That came out that year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. First off, the album is called Honking on Bobo. Second,
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  Speaker 4: this was supposed to be their return to rock, you know,
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  Speaker 4: after putting out three albums of amazing, crazy crying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and and I was actually pretty psyched when I first
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  Speaker 4: heard about that. My brothers and sisters listened to Aerosmith
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  Speaker 4: growing up, so I was exposed to them in an
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  Speaker 4: early early age and really like all their seventies stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And and then they just got really unbearable in the nineties,
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, oh, this might actually be good.
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  Speaker 4: They're reconnecting their original producer and and then it just
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  Speaker 4: ended up just being like a bunch of blues cover
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  Speaker 4: and like, musically it was fine, I guess, but Stephen
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  Speaker 4: Tyler is he's just he's just unlistenable. Yeah at this point, Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: So you know that was that was a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a shark sandwich. Next up Helmet Size Matters. So this
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  Speaker 4: is on my list because Helmet were an amazing band
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  Speaker 4: when they had their original lineup. Meantime Betty incredible albums.
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  Speaker 4: The one after that, After Taste, it's a little bit
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  Speaker 4: watered down, but still has John Stanier on drums, you know,
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  Speaker 4: still good. I saw them at the Crowbar and State
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  Speaker 4: College on that tour, and you know, they were still
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  Speaker 4: they were still decent. But but besides Matters, Page Hamilton's
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  Speaker 4: the only one left, and it's just it's a total
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  Speaker 4: scab lineup, and the whole thing just sounds like he's
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  Speaker 4: just going through the motions. Yeah, and just just a
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  Speaker 4: real just a real letdown from that fan and like
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  Speaker 4: three yea yeah, and number three Steven Segal songs from
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  Speaker 4: the Crystal Cave.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so he released an album. It was it was
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  Speaker 4: never actually released in America at the time. Like now
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  Speaker 4: you can hear it on streaming services. But uh, it's
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  Speaker 4: like a mix of it's like a mix of Jack
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  Speaker 4: Johnson Eric Clapton. Like musically, it's not horrible.
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  Speaker 3: It's don't say that. I haven't even heard it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of funny, just like listening to him try to
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  Speaker 4: sing earnestly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But but what really takes the cake is that there's
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  Speaker 4: a song on it called Strut that's total reggaeton and
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  Speaker 4: has some Jamaican singer on it, and and and at
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  Speaker 4: one point he sings, me want the poo Nani.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is horrendous. I gotta listen to
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  Speaker 3: it now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, me want the poo Nani. And he sings it
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  Speaker 4: in an accent too, because he's a white person, so
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  Speaker 4: of course he's going to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, is that your last one?
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  Speaker 4: No? No, no, okay. So number two is Gene Simmons Asshole.
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  Speaker 4: A couple things about that. Uh So the song Asshole
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  Speaker 4: has some of the worst lyrics I've ever read. Here's
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  Speaker 4: here's some of the lyrics. You think that you're so
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  Speaker 4: cool that you're nobody is full, but you've got a
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  Speaker 4: personality just like a bucket of p Like a five
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  Speaker 4: year old could have written those lyrics.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a Howard or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: He's been. He's been at this point. He's been in
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  Speaker 4: the game for like forty years. You think that he
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  Speaker 4: would have learned to write better lyrics by this point.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: But and then he covers Firestarter by The Prodigy.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's so bad to cover. It's one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst covers of all time.
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  Speaker 4: It's really bad. And what makes it extra bad is
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  Speaker 4: that Dave Navarro plays guitar on the song and he's
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  Speaker 4: in the video shirtless of course, and I would say
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  Speaker 4: that's scarier than anything Gene Simmons is trying to attempt
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  Speaker 4: on this album.
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  Speaker 1: It was in his contract, the shirtless thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a must him, him and Matt Pike
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  Speaker 4: from High on Fire. And then the last album on
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  Speaker 4: my list is six Feet Under Graveyard Classics two. So
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: if you don't know, six Feet Under is the band
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  Speaker 4: that Chris Barnes, the former singer of Cannibal Corpse, started
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  Speaker 4: after he left that band, and so they released an
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  Speaker 4: album called Graveyard Classics, which was basically cover songs of
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  Speaker 4: song you know, albums that influenced them by, like Exodus,
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  Speaker 4: Black Sabbath, a CDC, Dead Kennedy's, all done in the
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  Speaker 4: six feet under style, which is, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: a fan of cover albums to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, but you know it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was probably fine at the time, just like a
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  Speaker 4: nice novelty or whatever. But then Graveyard Classics two, they
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  Speaker 4: decided to record the a CDC album Back in Black
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  Speaker 4: in its entirety in the six feet understyle, and it's like,
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  Speaker 4: why why exactly nobody, nobody cares, nobody wants to hear this.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like it would be funny to listen
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  Speaker 4: to for like thirty seconds, like, oh okay, that's amusing.
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  Speaker 1: Mark, Mark real quick. I've listened to the first one
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times, and it actually reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: the times that you and I were in Spanish class
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  Speaker 1: in high school and we would do death metal covers
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  Speaker 1: of like Christmas songs, but we did it as teenagers
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  Speaker 1: as a joke. Those guys made Taper Records.
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  Speaker 4: They pay thousands of dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a record contract.
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  Speaker 4: The lad These songs they practiced for days, they rehearsed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Mark, you saying that you're not a big fan
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  Speaker 3: of cover albums, Boy, you're gonna love one of my
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  Speaker 3: best of albums. Oh boy, here we go. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: know what it is. Yeah, you probably know what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, alright, Well, why don't we get to those
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  Speaker 3: are great, great worst albums, folks. If you want to
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  Speaker 3: torture yourself, go back and listen to all of them,
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  Speaker 3: all of them that we were just talking about. But
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  Speaker 3: let's get to the best albums of two thousand and four.
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  Speaker 3: Do you guys have any honorable mentions before we get
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  Speaker 3: into our top fives at all? Mark, do you have any?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'll just run through the titles. I won't
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  Speaker 4: get into them. Honorable mentions for me Zulu by Wrangler Brutes,
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  Speaker 4: Audit and Progress by Hot Snakes, Alphabetic Goal by Phoenix
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Probot self titled album that was the Dave Grohl Death
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  Speaker 4: Metal Projects, Yeah, Blue Cathedral by Comments on Fire, Spirit,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Stereo Frequency by All Night Radio, and Leviathan by Mastadon.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, cool, I will say that of the
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: one of them that you just named in your honorable
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: mention is on my list, my best list. So, Eric,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: do you have any honorable mention that you want to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: dive into.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mentioned earlier m F. Doom had well he
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: didn't put out Matt Villainy Matt Lift It, but that
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that came out in No. Four That is a that's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a ridiculously great hip hop record. Really kind of set
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the table for like artists like black Star and most
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: stuff going for Tali Qually and The Son of a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Bitch also put out in Food as well the same year,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: which is just insane, like like the the beats, the whole,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: like like Jay Dillo is involved with both records just
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: kind of the kind of the pinnacle of underground hip
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: hop and early two thousands and really kind of went
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: against the grain of what I talked about earlier with
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Chingey and some of those awful other records like Little
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Romeo at a Record. Yeah, And the only other one
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I have is uh It's why I have mass A
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Don's le Biatton as well. That's a The first time
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I had listened to it and I realized is like
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: then I read the drummer brand Daylor wrote the entire
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: record after he read Moby Dick and I was like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: that is like, that's kind of sick. It's a great
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it's a great concept for a metal, metal, metal record.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And and then you know, Jeff of Chorus, we saw
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: them in a four on the Lefaiatant tour.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: All right, let's not get too too far deep into
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: this one, okay, right, let's let's let's okay.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And the only one is the Elliott Smith record. He
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was already passed by then from the From the Basement
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of the Hill. It's fifteen songs he was kind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: still working on, but they finished him up. And there's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: there's some like not great songs in there, but some
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of the songs in there, you're just like, man, this
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I wish I wish she hadn't, you know, taken him
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: his own life. My god, what a songwriter. Just yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: beautiful record, I get.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I want to before even I get into my honorable mentions,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I do want to say that this was for me, guys,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: this was a transformational year. I shouldn't even say transformational year,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: but it was the real It was the height of
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: learning more about metal music, which I've always loved. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: think from the period of probably two thousand and one
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to two thousand and four. It was one. It was
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the understanding and just liking of more metal and other
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: types of rock music that I necessarily hadn't really dove into,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: quite frankly, but that two thousand and one I'm gonna
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: sound real fucking corny right here. Two thousand and one
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and two thousand and four was when, like I think,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Eric and I really came together musically in a lot
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: of different ways. Especially I'm giving Eric all the credit
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: as rightfully so, like him exposing me to different types
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: of bands and bands that I had just never heard
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: of before. So I'm putting that out there as a
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: caveat because there are some bands here and one of
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: them is on my honorable mention list that Eric actually
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: introduced me to. Didn't know about him, but Shadows Fall,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the War Thin, the couple songs from that album, the
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: song The Light that Blinds, especially What Drives the Week.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I still listen to What Drives the Week every now
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: and again. Some of my favorites off of this album.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I remember when Eric and I were listening to them,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and Eric, I don't know if you remember, we would
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: often say they had a bit of a metallica feel
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to them, especially the guitars, and even like a hardcore
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: feel kind of mixed together. Just a great band, great
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: album from two thousand and four. And the other one
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I want to mention too was Drive By Truckers The
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Dirty South, and they're on my honorable mention list because like,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I wasn't into them back then, but it was because
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: of Eric and our other friend Dave, who got me
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: into Drive By Truckers. When you go back into the catalog,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: that album The Dirty South is absolutely exceptional. Two songs
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I love from this album are Where the Devil Don't
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Stay and the Day John Henry Died. Just fantastic musicians,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: just fantastic songwriters. So those are my two honorable mentions. Yeah,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I don't don't. I don't know if Eric, do you
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: have anything.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about that one later.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, sounds good, sounds good. But like The Shadows,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I doubt the Shadow is the Shadows fall one, because
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like I remember.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And we went and saw them live. They they yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I think yeah. Lamba God opened for them. They used
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to flip yes back and forth on that one tour
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and Yeah, great band, and uh, I was always struck
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: by the lead singer, do it I forget his name
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: now do with long dreads. And I always liked their
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: music because he he was He wasn't just influenced by
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: metal like a lot of those guys are just like
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I love Slayer and that's it, but he was like
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I love the Smiths, like the Grateful Dead, and it
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: kind of came out and there sound a little bit
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: like it were in his lyrics too. Yeah, he was
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: kind of a kind of a different songwriter. I wish
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it kind of would have stuck around more. But yeah, great.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Brian Fair, Brian Fair is his name. Yeah, freaking awesome,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: freaking awesome. So all right, guys, let's let's get into
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: our best albums. We'll start with number five, Eric, why
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: don't you go ahead?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But okay, I'll start with one of my favorite bands
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of all time. And I'm pretty sure I covered this
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: their two thousand and one release on our two thousand
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and one show like My Got three years ago. Guys,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Good Forward. I know that's insane. But their next record
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: came out in O four and it's Big Destroyer's Terrified. Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's another one I was. I was living in Philly,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: right across the street. Was like, this is weird. But
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the first ever Sailor Jerry store opened up where you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: could buy like these Sailor Jerry shirts that had like
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: weird tattoos on the shirt. I didn't really like the clothing,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: but I like the vibe of the store. And I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: walked in and the dude was blasting the new Big Destroyer.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know what it came out. I came
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: out yet, and I was just like, oh, this is
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: more violent and rutled in the first one, and you
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: showed me, you showed me the cover and it's just
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: this this woman and a breast or hanging. It's it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's serial killer. Grind core is what they do. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, I'm going to sell street.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go buy it immediately from the relap store
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and went down and got it the next day, came home,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: put it on. I'm like, oh my god, these guys
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: are just these guys are just like what I What
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I loved about the record is the first problem in
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the yard is straight up like it's just it's grindcore.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Every song is a minute long it is. They're going
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: forward so hard, and we saw them live Jeff Rother
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: this year. They're they're still doing the same thing. The
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: music's awesome. But what I what I talk about Terrifier
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: is they kind of figured out the groove within grindcore,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: if that's even possible, but they did. They kind of.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like they were almost like influenced by the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: DC Baltimore funk scene that was like there forever and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: ever and ever, because like within the grindcore song, within
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the breakdowns, it almost has like a funky groove to it,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and like there's dudes, there's there's just shirtless dudes punching
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: each other left and right those shows. But I can
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: hear a groove. It's not just it's not just brutal
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: smashing of the drums and just because there's keyboards going.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: There's all kinds of they're all kinds of different. They're
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: known for their noise, yes, and but within that they
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: got that weird groove. And that's why I love them
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the most out of all the grindcore bands, because like
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: they make different kind of grindcore music. And this was
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the first record where I was like, don't but I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't but I don't, but it I was like I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: can hear it, like I don't know how they did
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that within the Menai cool music that they're putting on stage,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but like great band. And that was the first record
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that I felt like they found their groove like that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: when it when it when it goes from Scarlett our
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Glass and the Thumbsucker. I I at the show that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: was like my moment of like, oh my god, this
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: is what I live for music like But but at
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the same time, it's not just it's not just punishing
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: like punching gravel kind of sound. It's like, wow, can
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you actually dance to this? Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: try to do that at a show like at the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: same time, but I could feel that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: So you're absolutely correct. That was the feeling at the
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: show that there was that groove to it they got
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: They ended up getting that groove on this album, Eric,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And that's see it's so difficult, you know for people
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: who are listening to this and they're like, what the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: hell is what are these guys talking about? Pig destroyer
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: grindcore folks. If you're actually still listening to this at
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: this point, it is it's amazing. M Try to listen
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to it as something musical, and you will hear that
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: groove that Eric is talking about. You are going to
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: hear and feel something. You will even if you're not
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: into metal music, you will feel something within you that
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: is like, oh my gosh, I will get it if
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you actually do give it a shot. And that's all
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say with regard to that. But that's a
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: fantastic number five, Eric, That's fantastic. Mark. Do you have
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: a response for Eric or do you want to get
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: into your number five?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I don't have a response other than I need to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: give that album another listen. Uh. So they just they're
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: like one of those bands there. They've always been on
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: my radar a bit, but I just never took a
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: deep dive for whatever reason. And uh, and I really
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: need to. I'm really I'm really curious about like this
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: this groove elements because now I'm wondering if they're maybe
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: also influenced by like nineties funk metal, like like like
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: early Red Hot Chili Peppers or Mordred or Scatterbraid. Maybe
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: they took some of that element and put it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: In the Chilis maybe yeh infectious grooves.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that kind of stuff, like it's it's
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: stated horribly, but I I don't know. I kind of
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: still enjoy listening to it from time to time.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You did too. I think they're one of the more
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: musical grindcore bands, yes, of the whole genre.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, absolutely cool.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely get that a listen. Yeah, so
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and give my number five. Mine is
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the band Big Business. It's called Head for the Shallow,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: so Big Business. It's it's a two man group bass, bass,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and drums essentially, and and vocals. The bass player sings uh.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: The bass player was in this band Carp from the
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: nineties who were incredible Karp and the drummer was the
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: drummer of the Murder City Devils, and they came together
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: and put out this amazing record that it kind of
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: sounds like if you took the Melvins and made the
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: made all their stuff pretty upbeats and then just took
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: away the guitar. That's kind of what it sounds like, Okay,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: but it's just it's just really.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know this album. I know who Big Business is,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: but I don't know this album. For some reason.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's their first album, Okay, and it really it
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: just really they were I mean they were right right
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: out of the gate for just an incredible band. It's
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: like it's like aggressive but also kind of melodic, but
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: but all a little progressive as well. Okay, it's highly recommended.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: All right, nice, nice, All right, Eric, do you have
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: anything for that? I don't. I just I want to
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: listen to it at some point. Definitely, no big business.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I know the name, but I've never actually listened to them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: That's why I like these shows, because, like I've done
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: marked thirty some years, I know Jeffy, but I've never
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: actually listened to it, like any of their albums. And
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to now I'm already on Apple Music right now.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Nicer stuff. So nice.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll also like that they named their band after
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: the nineteen eighty eight film starring Lily Tomlin and Bete Midler.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, boy, freaking had tongue tied on that one, dude.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: My sister and I used to watch that. I was
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: eleven years old.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a Prism classic. It was on Prism all
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I was like twenty times exactly. That an outrageous fortune stupid,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: stupid Bette Midler in her in her polka dot dress
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: throughout the entire movie.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: That's the one they had twins. Yes, yes, okay, yeah
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that that a armed and dangerous were aren't at the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: same time all the time? Yes with uh yeah, yep,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: great movie.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. All right, Well my number five, guys,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: is I going through my list here. I don't know why.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I just I felt like, you guys are gonna laugh
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: at me, and it's fine if you do. But I
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: have rationales for everything. So number five is actually Velvet
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Revolver contraband because, like I said in the beginning, I said,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna kind of get into the whole, like, you know,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: rock was dead. And yes, you're right, Mark, every now
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and again, you know you hear that. You know, there's
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: like this ground swell of oh it's you know, it's
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, is rock and roll dead? At this point,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: it's two thousand and eight, it's rock and roll dead.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: But I liked how different rock performers back then and
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: musicians were just kind of like experimenting doing new things
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: with each other. You know, you had Chris Cornell and
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Tom Morello. They embarked on Audio Slaves saw some success there.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Scott Wiland slashed Duf Makagan, Matsorum and who was Dave
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Kushner put together this really solid album. I thought Contra
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Band was a really solid album. And the thing is,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's not necessarily one of my favorites ever,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: but it was one of my favorites from that particular
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: year two thousand and four because it was during a
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: time when we were really hearing and as somebody who
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: played guitar and Mark, I don't know if you like
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: maybe felt this back then too, as somebody who played
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: guitar and you're hearing rock is dead. You know, what
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: you're doing with your instrument doesn't really mean much anymore.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It really sucked to hear that. But then Contraband comes out.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I was able to listen to this album kind of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: sit back and thought, Okay, I think there's some hope
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: for rock music because these guys took elements within their
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: old bands brought them together, and I was like, Okay,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: this is some pretty good rock music here. It's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: the greatest rock music in the world, but for me personally,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: it meant that, Okay, I don't think rock is really dead.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And again this was back in two thousand and four,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: where you know, probably you know a little a little
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: dramatic here and there with certain certain things going on
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: in the world, which I mean, we're gonna get to
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit that in a bit. But Velvet Revolver
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: contraband that's my number five.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Is that the first Velvet Revolver album? Yeah, okay, yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: that's a good one. I think I think that was
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: a really good pairing of Scott Wiland with those GNR guys. Yes,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I think it worked really well. They had some really
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: catchy tunes and it kind of I think Scott being
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: in the band kind of gave it a little bit
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: more authenticity than just some you know, want to be
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: sunset strip idiot.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. I think their other album
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: came out, I mean it was years later. I think
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: it was like three or four years after that, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: then they I think they got rid of they ended
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: up getting rid of Scott Whyland of course because of
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: drug problems and addiction problems unfortunately. But uh yeah, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: love that. So Eric, I don't know if you had
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: a response for that, or if you want to get
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: into your number four.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: The band could have went the route of like, uh,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I can't remember this is the band alter Bridge, Yes,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: like the guys from Creed just pick yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: They picked some jerk off with nice facial hair and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: made him the lead singer and and Felvy Revolver could
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: have just done that and picked like like Jet like
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Mark said, some Sunset Boulevard asshole. But they went top
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: shelf And it was actually the first record where I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: was like, Scott Wiland's an awesome front man. Yeah I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: didn't like I I like Stone Double Pilots, not all
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: their stuff, but like I never quite bought in, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like seeing him seeing them, I didn't see I never
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: saw him live, but like seeing him front them, I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, he's actually he has a lot of charisma,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: like great, great lead singer, and like, yeah, it's I
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: wish they would have named the band something else. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: hate the name of the band.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it does kind of suck.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No it's not. It's yeah, it's it's like we're
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: tough but we're healthy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: So ironic, sorry, real quick. Ironically that that jerkoff from
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Walter Bridge to your commo Eric he went on to
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: sing for Slash's uh solo albums after that, so it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: kind of ironic.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, Eric, not a great show for
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: that guy. Whatever his name is, I have no clue.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Miles Kennedy, Miles.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: His name's even worse than the Belphet revolver. Yeah, I'm imagining.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I'm imagining his closet at home just filled with Sequence
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: jeans and uh what is it? Uh ed hardy T
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: shirts with lots of doubt, like be dazzled on this
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: on the sleeves.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, what's your number?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Four?
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Eric?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Number four is the Dirty South Drive by Truckers. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: think I know a lot of a lot of DBT
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: fans say that, like some of the earlier stuff was
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: their their peak as a as a three piece, But
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I think this is what they really hit there. This
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: is like when they had three great songwriters in their
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: prime in the same band with Patterson Hood, Mike Cooley
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and and Jason Isbell and just and they It's one
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of those records you're like, there are no no skips,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: is what the kids say. There's just no Every song
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: is fucking perfect. Every song like each guy writes is
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: like in their style, but it makes sense for the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: band and just the I mean the opening riff there.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like, what is what
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: is one of the what's the best opening riff for
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: an album? Like I I know, it's a whole another
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: show to Yes, I will put where the Where the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Devil Don't Stay. The opening rift to that is so
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: fucking chunky and just hard rock. I'll put it up
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: with any album. But every song in there is a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: classic to me. Sans v Rejima is such a beautiful
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Patterson hood song. And then you know they at the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: very end, they just throw in the saddest song of
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: all time, Goddamn Lonely Love by Jason is Smell. They
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: just go, ah, let's just write we wrote a great album.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Let's end it with a song that make you fucking cry.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Listen to it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Go get the tissues, ass wipes.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and wrote it. I think it's like twenty four
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: years old, and he wrote the most like it's up
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: there with George Jones songs of like of Lost Love.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, how did you write this
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: at twenty four? Like you you barely barely got through puberty. Yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and you wrote like one of the most lovely songs
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: of like lost love ever. It's such a great record,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and like that that that that'll it's one of those like,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: oh my god, what it was captured in a moment.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: It will never happen again for that band. I love them,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But like that is that's such a perfect record.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: It's a great record. Eric, you and like I said earlier,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: our buddy Dave you know, got me into them, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: just the the overall songwriting. I mean, they are up
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: there and should be up there with some of the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: greatest songwriters of all time. Yes, folks, I'm saying that
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the greatest songwriters of all time Drive by Truckers and
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: especially the Dirty South. This particular album from back in
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: two thousand and four. I it's so difficult to describe
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: that feeling you get, like when I'm at my house
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and I have fire pick going in the backyard during
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the summer, the spring, whatever, and I put this album on.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's just it's there's like a blissfulness
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: to this particular album. So very very good man, very good.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I love it. I love it, Mark buddy. How about
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: how you're up next here?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've never listened to that album. I've never
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: really listened to Drive by Truckers, but now I need to.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: It sounds right up my alley. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you like but cool. On a totally different slant, My
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: number four is by a band but called Necrophagist, which
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: means one who eats the flesh of the dead.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, fantastic mark, Yes.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Their album. Their album is called Epitaph, And so the
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: deal with this band. There's this Turkish guitar prodigy named
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Mohammed steik Mis probably butchered his name, but he recorded
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: his first album as Necrofagist, entitled Onset of Future Faction,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: completely but completely by himself and just programmed all the drums.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: And I found out about it through this. There was
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: this amazing record store in San Francisco called Aquarius Records,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: where back before like streaming music and MP three's were
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: really readily available, they would they would post lengthy reviews
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: of all their new releases and post sound clips of
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: those releases, and and that's how I found out about
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: about Necrofagists, and and I was just blown away by
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: this record. I mean, the drums were obviously so technical
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: that no human could actually play them. Uh, but it
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: was just but but it was just so it's like
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: total just tech tech death metal, uh with like Vey
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Mom's team type sweep picking and neo classical influences. It
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: just just totally blew me away. So on their second album, Epitaph,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: he assembled an actual band, uh to to record this music,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: and I would say, it's it's it's just as good
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: as the first album. It's a little bit different, some
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: slower tempos, but just really well done, uh technical death
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: metal with some like some melodic guitar, still just incredible drumming,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: almost human nice.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I gotta listen to this.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it really I think changed the game
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: at the time that it came out, came out on
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Relapse Records.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Now, a lot of.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Bands have been able to kind of achieve what they
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: had done, but at the time they were they were
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: just really far ahead of all the other stuff that
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: was out there at the time.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Again, again another album that I have not listened to.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna need to listen to it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, if you if you start your name
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: with Necro, I'm probably in. There's so many great bands,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: so it's.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Just Necro yes. All right, Well, guys, I'm gonna get
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to my number four and uh, I'm thinking there may
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: be a discussion about this because it is a cover
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: album and it is a perfect Circles emotive. Did you
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: know this is what it was going to be?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Mark?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I did, based on Okay, based on the
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: show that we did like three years ago, when I
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: was talking about Tool and my love for Tool Mayner
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: James Keenan and Mark was just, oh, we just completely
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: shipped on. I'm expecting Mark to shit all over this
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: particular album that I'm going to be talking about, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: that's the I don't know if it should actually count
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: because they're all cover songs except for two songs that
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: were on the album. But back in two thousand and four, Okay,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: So back in two thousand and four, I had just
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: gotten back, or yeah, a few years earlier from working
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: down in Washington, d C. On Capitol Hill. I was
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: working for a state senator here in Pennsylvania at the time,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: so I'm involved in politics, involved in government and stuff.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And the album purposefully coincided with the presidential election of
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: that year, when George W. Bush was on the ballot
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: for re election against John Kerry, We're in the middle
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and these were
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: just cover songs about about peace and war. You had
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Fiddling the drum by Joni Mitchell, Marvin Gay's What's going On?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: John Lennon's Imagine was covered as well, songs like Let's
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: have a war, people are People. I thought that this
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: band did a really really good job of putting out
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: a cover album that was significant for the time period
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: and during that time period. While yes, a war president
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: ended up winning re election. We can get into you know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: we can't get into that right now, as much as
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I'd love to in terms of why he won reelection,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: but it was just it was very poignant for me
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: in my life at that point. One being a huge
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Perfect Circle fan, I absolutely I love Benner, James Keenan,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Billy Howardell who who was doing songwriting for a Perfect Circle,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: and their guitarist as well. I've always loved their music.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: So that's one of the reasons I'm putting putting this
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: is number four. Mark lacask, go ahead, start shitting, start
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: shipping on it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, So does Josh Freese play drums on this filbum? Uh?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I honestly don't know if Josh does. Okay, I'm not sure. Yeah,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I so I've never actually listened to it, Okay, but
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I kind of wrote it off right off the back
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: because number number one I had a peace sign on
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: the cover and at the time I was like, fuck that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: And then the album is called Emotive, but Motive is
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: capitalized in the ease at the end or lowercase. Yes,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I thought that was super corny. They covered Imagine by
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: John Lennon. Never needs to be covered by anybody ever. Again,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: it's just it's no, please don't okay, I think that
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: that that that celebrity cover version that happened during the pandemic.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: That uh, what's the actuals who played wonder Woman? Yeah? Yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: cut a spearheaded that really like put the final nail
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: on the coffin. So that's song. So that's that's all
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I really have to say about it. But but as
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I'm walking through the track list here, if there are
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: some cool song choices like Gimme, Gimmy, Gimme by Black Flas,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Let's Have a War by Fear, Freedom of a Choice
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: by Devo, you know there are some good choices.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: When the Levy breaks that they did. I thought they
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: did a really good job of when the levee breaks.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I really did. Okay, I get them biased, of course,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: You know, I just for you. I'll give this album
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: a listen, and I'll let you know if I've changed
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: my mind.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Actually, I don't want you to do that, my friend,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: because then you're just gonna shit on. I know it's coming,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to feel worse than I already do.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'll I'll listen to it for the
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: open mind.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I probably all right. It sounds good, sounds good. Eric,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: do you have any shitting on this that you'd like
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't listen to it. I was a one and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: done with the perfect Circle. But I do respect the choices.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Give me, give it, give me. He's a good, a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: great song. Black Flag's version is great, But I would
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: try it. I do tend to agree with Mark that,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like you kind of imagine like you really got to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: do something with it to impress me, or like change
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: my mind or I don't know, and I do. I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: do agree with Mark with the emotive. I don't know.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I'll try it because its like again, I'm gonna listen
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: to Big Big Business. I'm gonna listen to the Necrofagist
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: record for sure. But like I'll try.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: This, skip over, imagine, just skip over, Imagine it's not
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: the best. I'll tell you that. Other songs are good.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I'm coming up. I'm coming up there tomorrow. You should
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: have it at the party.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that sounds good. Yes, that sounds good. Yes,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: we can do it, all right.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And if I leave five minutes in, you know my
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: my response.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing it, not taking the hands, all right? Eric,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: what's your number three?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, buddy, jeh.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I just want I just want to add that I
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: also saw a Perfect Circle live before this album came out,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: and I thought they were good. Yeah, So so I
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: can honestly say I can listen to it with an
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: unbiased view.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I love it all. I appreciate that, buddy, Thank you,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: thank you, great, my pleasure. And then you can shoot
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: on me after Eric, what's your number three?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Man? Mickael dig this one big time. I think A. C.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Newman's A Slow Wonder came out in two thousand and four,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and just I honestly think it's a pot masterpiece from
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: start to finish. There's eleven tracks and every single song
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: like makes me feel good. Like I don't know what
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: it is, but you can now listen to that record
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I'm bummed out now it's it
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: really makes me feel happy. I'm a huge I was
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: a huge fan of the first Shin's record two thousand
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and one, and they came out with a record No. Four.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I liked it, didn't love it, And then after that
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, I'm less sure about the Shins.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I listened to AC Wonders or AC Newm Sorry this
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Slow Wonder, and I'm like, this should have been the
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Shin's second record. This should have been the record they
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: made kind of in the same vein every song is
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: it's just indie pop. Just it's three minutes, three and
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a half minutes, and every song is a great chorus.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: It's so it's kind of whimsical. I hate these that word,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: but like here's piano and every song and it's the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: best elements to the New Pornographers for me has always
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: been a c Newman. I love Nigo Case, I love
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the band, but like he's always been the element that
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed with their music, and I almost wish
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: like he had just gotten them all together and said, hey,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: let's make a New Pornographers record, but with my songs.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: But the song on the Table a third track on
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the record. I was thinking about this. I was driving
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: around earlier today and I'm like, I think on the
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: tables in my top three to five all time pop
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: songs that get stuck in my head, and I sing
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: to myself all day long, if not the whole song,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: but just the chorus, like on the Table, dun't dun't dun't.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: It's one of those I wake up if if I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: say it to myself in my head, it is in
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: my head until I go to bed. It's always what
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: It's always been one of the songs for me. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: it's a great record. And then the Town Halo is amazing,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and then for God's sake, he drops thirty five in
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the Shade as the last track, and it's like, God,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this guy writes great pop music. Yeah, and he should
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: have been bigger. I'm sure he's happy with his career,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: but one of my favorite songwriters from that era. And
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I love the New Pornographers, but I love his solo record.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite albums in the past twenty years. Easily.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Nice Mark, you want to respond, because Eric was like, oh, Mark,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: you're gonna know this. Yeah.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I really like the first couple of
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: New Pornographers albums. I kind of fell off the wagon
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit with them. I remember, I remember when
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: this album came out, and I might have I may
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: have given a listener to. But now I think I
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: really need to revisit it based on Eric's glowing review,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: which I completely believe because I agree with Eric. A. C.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Newman's songs and vocals were always like my favorite part
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: of the New Pornographers, as as great as the other
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: vocalists were, even even Dan Baihar from Destroyer. But yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: so I'm excited to uh to revisit this record.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: All right, very good, Mark. What is your number three here, Bud?
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: My number three is the Dillinger Escape Plan with Miss Machine.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: All right, uh so the Dillinger Eskate Plan for those
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: who don't know there are. They were a completely insane,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: chaotic hybrid of hardcore metal jazz. Just like rapidly changing tempos,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: insane vocals. Yeah, I had seen them once or twice
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: before I heard this album and was just completely blown away.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: And so after their after their first full length, they
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: lost their original singer, Dimitri Mina Caucus and they did
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: an EP with Mike Patton from Faith and Moore Mister Bungle.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: The Dillager Escapeland had actually toured mister Bungle. I think
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: that how that's that's how that connection came about. And
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Matt ep was incredible. It was kind of, you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: more of the of the sound that they had, but
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: maybe with more melody, some some more focus on the songwriting.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: And I think the Missmachine album sort of an extension
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: of that. They have a new vocalist, Greg Cucciado, who
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: his his screaming vocals I liked even better than Dimitri's,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: but then he could also sing melodically very well, and
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: he I think he really took that band to the
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: next level with this record. Like the first half of
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: it is pretty standard Dillinger escape Plan type stuff, just
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: just absolute insanity. But then towards the second half of
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: the record there's more traditional songwriting elements, more melody, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: it was really executed very well. And yeah, I just
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I love this record.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yet yet again another album that I don't know too much.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: About that my Dillinger Escape Plan. Just remembering from like
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: the early two thousands, I think they had an album
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Irony is a Dead Scene.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: I think that's EEP that they did with Mike Patten.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Oh that's the one they did with Mike Patton. Okay, Yeah,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: that's like the one that I remember that was like,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I was really good, but then I kind of like
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: dropped off and kind of like stopped following them in
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: a way. Eric, did we end up seeing them at all?
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Opening for anybody?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: That was?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Why am I thinking we may have seen them? I
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: don't have we ever seen them.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I saw them solo, okay, on the Calculating Infinities or
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: back in. I was a huge fan of the first record,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and I actually like Dmitri's vocals, but Greg Greg's an
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: awesome vocalist. And when they went to Hippacac and met
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Mike Patten, it almost made too much sense, you know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: because I liked the first record, but like it felt
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: limited in my opinion, But I really it made sense.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: They did the Mike pattent thing, and their music got
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: way more interesting and went more intense. You see them live, man,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: it's they're scary, like they're trying to destroy themselves on stage.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: It's like black Flag back in the day. Really, if
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you see like the early eighties black flag stuff.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: And destroy the audience too, Oh for sure.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm employee right now. If you go on YouTube
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: and just put in Diliger Escape Plan at Virgin Megastore
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five, see one of the most insane
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like Greg literally he has like his hood pulled up
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: on his on his head and I think they're playing
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: all songs from the record Mark talking about and he
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: literally just runs across the crowd, like runs on their
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: faces like just it's just looking up on YouTube, it's
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: it's it's I've watched it a hundred times. It's amazing
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: because they're they're an amazing band. And I'm not sure
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: if they're like jazz metal or whatever, like they're all
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: they're all playing insane notes and like like kind of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: what's probably some of the stuff that necro Fact necro
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Factis was doing, but like great band, but like you,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you really got to be in a certain mood or
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: understand music to really get into them.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: My opinion, I gotta listen to this machine for sure.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I definitely do again. Another album here, so all right,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: well as we're moving along here, for me, guys, it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Mastadon's Leviathan that is number three for me. First, I mean,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: first off, the album cover is it's just awesome. You
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: look at this huge whale with this ship on top
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: of it. It basically lets you know that you are
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: in for a concept album, I think, and in fact
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: it was Masterdon's first concept album, as Eric mentioned earlier,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: loosely based off of the Moby Dick novel. Just the
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: album is just full of incredible compositions and just the
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: chemistry of the band. The album itself, I thought, really
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: set itself apart from just about anything in twenty twenty four.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, so many frantic guitar tones and brand daylers
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Is drumming was just nothing short of just masterful, just
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: amazing what that guy is able to do, not only
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: on the drums, but just as Eric said earlier too,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: just writing this entire album, just all the different tempos,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: all the different transitions. It's one of It's one of
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: my favorite metal albums of all time. It's up there
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: for sure, Eric and I have seen them, and I
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: mean on the opening, I mean you go from blood
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and Thunder on the opening track right to the next one,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I Am Ahab and then right into Seabeast and Island
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: right after that, and then Iron Tusk like and that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Those first five songs are just absolutely killer. And not
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: only does Blood and Thunder start off the entire album,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: but you also had Neil Fallon who was from the
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: band Clutch. He was he did additional vocals on that
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: particular song, and it's just it was what a killer album,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: an amazing band. I've seen this band three times i
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: think at this point, and it's they are incredible musicians,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: incredible live musicians. But this one again going back to
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: what I said earlier, as like Eric was kind of
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: shepherding me into some some new music and just some
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: exposed me to some new genres and just some new bands,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: like this was definitely one of them. And Eric, I'm
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: like so grateful that we saw them on the Leviathan tour.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: It was it was fantastic.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Saw them on their first record, Remission, Yeah, but they
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: weren't they weren't quite. They were more metal than definitely
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a relapsed band. But and then they put this one
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: out and it was like, my god, this band is
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: like they're just sick. I think that's when it started
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: to combine the metal with the progressive kind of kink
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Crimson thing yep. And and to do a concept record
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: in your second album is pretty sick, it is. And
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and through the years they've kind of like really lean
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: into the progressive stuff, which it's not my thing, but
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I still respect them highly, but that Levithan is a
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: sick record. And for them to come out at you know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: their mid twenties and be like, we wrote an album
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: about Moby Dick and we're going to crush you with it.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I saw them multiple times on that on that tour,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: and I'll tell the story we saw. We saw one
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: of the Leviathan tour oh four. They were opening for uh,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: kill Switch, Engage and Slayer. Yes, so if you if
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you see metal bands, you know, like the first band
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: is like one inch from the big the front of
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the stage, like that's unfortunately they get shoved further and
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: further out because Slayer has their like eighty drum sets
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: and like all their fucking like all their their stacks
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: of vamps and Slair was known to.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Be assholes to the opening bands too, like give them
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: a half on the stage.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: That's it and and what I heard like they're the
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: mass John. The Mastadon sign was like a like a
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: like a bed sheet behind brand daylor. But they they
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: did their set and they you know, I met brand
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Dale in the bathroom and the crowd wasn't quite into them.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Where they're like lot your factory back in Philly, and
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: you know, stupid me. I'm like, I'm I'm putt myself
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: under the throw myself under the bus. I'm like, brand
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you guys were great. I'm sorry that wasn't great. Who
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the hell? Who the hell wants to hear that?
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: You're trying to like connect, You're trying like twenty six
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: years old, and like, sorry, it's just sound like an assholes.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Fucking assholes.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Don't know good ship.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like I love you, but everyone else hates you.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Like who the hell wants to hear that? They just
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: playing the blistering set the worst?
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, I love it? Oh nice? All right, well we
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: are on to uh number two now?
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Eric? Oh sorry? Sorry?
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you got you got something right? Yeah?
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah yeah. So this almost made my top five lists. Okay,
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: it was. It was on there at one point, so
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: I kind of felt like when Levia Think came out
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: for me, it was a bit of a letdown because
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: I loved Remission, their first full length, and I love
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: the the EP that they did before that even more. Yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: and then I saw all them upstairs at the Trube
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: door with High on Fire and you know, I was
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: a huge Higher on Fire fan, and and mast It
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: On just like Blue High and Fire Away, They're just phenomenal.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: So then when when Levia Think came out, I just
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: I felt like it was like they're like, you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: aside from the concept album, I felt like it was
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: their attempt to reach a more mainstream audience, Oh yeah,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: I gotcha, or wider metal audience. I mean, I still
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: feel that way, but over time, I've really grown to
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: appreciate this album for what it is. Yeah, and I
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: mean it has undeniably. Even though some of the rifts
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: are simpler, they're very catchy, and Brands drumming is phenomenal
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: throughout the whole thing, and uh yeah, it's a solid record.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's no good Charlotte, I'll tell you that, folks.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: All Right, all right, number two. Now we're moving on
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: number two year Eric, Why don't we start with you, buddy,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: who's your number two best album of two thousand and four?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Before my number two? Like Blood and Thunder is another one,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, is that one of the greatest opening
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: songs to an album? Ember, it's another one like that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: opening riff, but not briand but Brian Kelller. Yeah, darn Aaron,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so sick.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: He's a crazy man as it is.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Anyway, Yes, I'm on rip to play on guitar too.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: It's it's a lot, It's harder than it seems.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: My number two is a band that could have made
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the same record as their first one. They didn't, as
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: opposed to a lot of bands that did kind of
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: do the same thing on their second album. Interpol's Antics
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite albums of all time, and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I love the first Interpoal record too. I've seen them
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: live many times and every song from Antics always sounds
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: awesome live. There are so many bands that came out
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: in like two thousand and one, two thousand and two
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: thousand and two where they kind of sound like joy Division. Uh.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of the New York City bands
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: that was that was a whole scene. And but it
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't just them, it was like the Vines, the Dotson's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: like that. They were so the von Bondi's like made this.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: They made their opening record that sound like the Hives
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: in one o two and then they put out the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: same stupid fucking record in like four. But antiq Interval
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: put out Antics, and it was like, oh, they're not
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Joy Division ripoffs like that that was what they were.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: They were kind of compared to on their first album,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and they made a great just pop pop record, but
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: like with an edge to it, very in New York City.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I thought they're the Strokes put out a great record
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: No One, but like I thought their Father was kind
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: of eh, not not great. I thought Interpol second second
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Delivery was like better than all those other bands. I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: think the I think Antics is just just but just
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: a tremendous record start to finish. Every song. It is
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: kind of different. I kind of liken it to Radiohead
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: putting out their first record. The second record came out
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: as like, oh, these guys actually write songs, yeah and it,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: but they also were like on that record like they
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: wrote hits in my opinion, like they didn't hit climb
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: up Billboard, but like They wrote really great songs on
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that record that weren't like the last album, like slow
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Hands and Camee. They wrote not even Jails with great
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: song length of love. And I thought they were probably
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the best of that New York scene that kind of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: like you know, took over MTV, took over indie indie
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: pop music for a while. I thought they were the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: best of those bands. And they're still touring playing those
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: playing the first two albums more. Then they just got
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: off tour in Europe and like played Antics start to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: finish and like just a huge record and like it's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: just really good, like it was not. They didn't rip
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: themselves off, which I really respected because a lot of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: bands did from that era.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: The Dots, I remember the Dot You mentioned the Dotson's.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: They put out an album that year, but it wasn't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: It wasn't really like I don't. I don't think it
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: was that great of an album. And I think that's
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: what you're like talking about, you know, bands in this
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: genre made.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Like they basically mad like gap commercial, Yes exactly, Yes,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: it's like yeah, and and Interpol didn't do that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I I need to go back and listen
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: to this album. I remember it to an extent, But
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: this is again one I need to go back and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: listen to Mark number four. Do you want to respond
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: to to.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Eric's yeah, the same kind of situation number two? I'm sorry, Yeah,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sure I've heard I'm sure I've heard these songs before.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: There was a station out here in California called Indy
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: one to three point one that played a lot of
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: really great indie rock kind of stuff, and they played
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: interpoal a lot. But I can't say that I know
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: any of the honest of this album just by looking
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: at the song titles. But I obvious thought they were
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: like a solid band. Yeah, I mean, definitely, definitely. Their
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: first album was really Joy Division Influence, but I felt
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: like they kind of had their own thing going on
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: by the time this record came about. I remember there
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: was a considerably less reverb on this record, and as
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: a whole, it.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Was a lot cleaner.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, So this is another record
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: I need to go back and take a listen to.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: All right, very good, Yeah, Mark, what's your number two?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: My number two is by Auto Lux. The album is
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: called Future Perfect. It was their their debut album. Auto
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: lucks around this time. They kind of sounded like My
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Bloody Valentine meets Goo era Sonic Youth, where the era
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: where Sonic Youth was kind of focusing more on like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: the songwriting versus just experimentation and kind of noise stuff. Weirdly,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: it was produced by t Bone Burnette, who's more famous
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: for producing The Counting Crows, The Wallflowers, Oh Brother where
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: art Thal soundtrack. But this album sounds nothing like any
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: of those albums, completely different, just really great songs. It
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: just it sounds unlike any other album that I've heard,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: you know, like it's there's some familiar kind of sounds,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: but then there's some some tones that just sound completely
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: unique to them. Their their guitar player was previously in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: a band called Failure who had kind of like a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: minor following in the nineties. The drummer, Carlazar is probably
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: the best female drummer I've ever heard in my life.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: She went on to play with Jack White later on.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: She's phenomenal. And then their singer bass player, you g
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Gorcester some interesting things about him. He played violin in
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: the November gonz Roses November Rain music video. Oh really yeah,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Like in the clips where it's like the band is
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: performing with an orchestra. He's in the orchestra playing violin.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: And in twenty nineteen he was arrested for smuggling twenty
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: kilograms of cocaine into the US. Jesus got right, little
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: fun facts.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Get him on the show, talk about it.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, it's it's a really incredible album. It
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: was like a no brainer for one of the top slots.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: I really kind of facilitated between this one and my
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: number one choice for the top slot. But highly recommended.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: All right, very good, nice, all right, yeah, go ahead,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: hold on.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite records of Voute four. I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: was gonna put it on. I don't know why it didn't,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Like it's one of those there's eleven songs on it,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and there's there's no skips from Turnstile Blues, the Angry
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Candy to Here Comes Everybody. It's the vocals are kind
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: of haunting, like it's it's always high. It's kind of
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: this high pitched kind of sound. And as Sarah pointed
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: out to me at one point, she loves that record too.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: She was like, I think they were influenced by the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: argument by Fugazi on some of these songs, and I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: went back and listened a couple of times, and I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: was like, I think she's right. Yeah, Like, turns out
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Blues is very kind of like the argument but like
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: but but they definitely have their own vibe. Like it
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: is a really really great record, and I still listen
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: I care, I gotta go back and listen. Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: His vocal style is it's you might say it's like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: a little tweet, but not really. It's it just sounds
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: more like if he were really doped up and we're singing,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: you know, melodically. That that's kind of how it sounds.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: I'm probably not doing any justice, but there's just there's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: just a really unique sounding band.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Really killer all right, nice, I can't wait, man, we
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: got some great bands and albums here that we need
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: to go back and listen to for sure my numbers.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Would you would love that one?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got I gotta listen to it. I
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: gotta listen to it, all right. Well my number two, guys,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: I am going with Lamb of God Ashes of the Wake.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: As many know, I absolutely love Lamb of God again,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: another band that Eric got me into. Eric and I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: saw them my Gosh early in the two thousands, and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: but Ashes of the Wake itself, like, it's hard to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: imagine where the metal community would be without Ashes of
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: the Wake. I can't describe the most heavy riffs that
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: you could hear, the more the technical guitar playing, especially
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: from Mark. I feel like Randy really worked on his
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: vocal patterns and his cadence more in this particular album,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: more so than previous albums New American Gospel and As
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: the Palace Is burn He was really refining what his
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: vocal sound was on this album. And again from a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: songwriting perspective, he and the band themselves, Chris Adler, i'd be,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: really took things to the next drumming level. I thought
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: on this album. Again, he was fantastic as just being
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: a fantastic musician on New American Gospel and As the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Palace Is Burned. But Eric, we've seen them so many times.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: I have seen this band so many times. I honestly
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: forgot how many times I've seen them at this point
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: on various tours and them promoting various albums. But again
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: I go back to the fact that this was one
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: of those bands. This was one of those albums I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: should say where it's hard to imagine where the metal
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: community would be without this particular album. And that may
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: sound a little dramatic, but this this album, I can
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: still put it on and it is an absolute killer.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Right when Laid to Rest comes in and then you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: go right to our glass and then they go into, uh,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: why am I forgetting?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Right now?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: I'm forgetting? Is it Americas?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: And he's got something to die for. It's just an
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: amazing album, man. And I don't know if you want
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: to mention anything. I don't know if this is on
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: your list.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: But I'll just say it's my number one.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Oh it is, okay, Yeah, damn it, Sorry.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: It's okay. I think it's the best.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Anti war record ever ever created, better than a Perfect
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Circles cover album. I'll say that, right.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he was. He was responding to the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Iraqi war with the emotive, Yes, as was Chris Barnes
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: on Great Grave Yards Follow You to Hell, But no,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's the It's my favorite record of four
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: and I like I said, it's the best anti war record.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Like they they they were they were long, they were
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: kind of like not warship, but they were loved by
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: the troops for a long time. Yeah, especially four, but
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: they but they were very anti war, very anti America. Honestly,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: they needed George Bush. They were very left leaning, but
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: they were always pro true. They were always kind of like,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I feel sorry for you guys having to fight for
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: this wo shit. We don't believe in it. But like
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: they what Randy did with his songwriting this record was
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: like it was kind of insane. He actually wrote he
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: wrote a great anti war record, but also kind of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: like intertwined his songwriting with what was going on with
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: him personally, with his just brutal alcoholism. If you've ever
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: seen Khiladelphia the documentary, oh yes, he was a disaster.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: They filled two shows at the Track in two thousand
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: and four to make Philadelphia. I was at both shows
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: and it was a band of the peak of their powers.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: They were a banned for ten years at that point,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: you know, for like six of those years they were
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: called Burned the Priest. They finally turned into the Lamb
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: of God. They put out New American Gospel, but like
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: and they put in palaces and they kind of like
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: they kind of turned the corner palaces. But they kind
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: of like when they put ash to the Wake.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: It was like they really turned who they were. Yeah,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: they really turned.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Out and they were my favorite band of all time
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: at the time, and I was just so into them
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: and I have the I have the eagle tattoo in
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: my own left arm mashes the Wake, But like, I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: just think the record is so great and like, I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: just really love how they It was kind of a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: there there was not a record at the time kind
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: of calling out America the way. It was right that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: they did it. They did it in a really cool
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: way that like, we feel sorry for all you guys
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: who are too poor to go to cop and you're
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: fucking going over there fighting for oil and this is
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: horse ship, but we love you and we're gonna write
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: songs that every single song is like fuck George Bush,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: fuck the War, this is horse shit, but we're but
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: we stand by you guys. And it was just it's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: it's a great record, but beyond that, it's just fucking
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: it kills. Every song is like I remember the time,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I think Carry King must have been like jealous of them,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: because he had met multiple interviews where he was like,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Lamb of God sucks, they suck. And actually I started
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: being like dude, they don't suck. They don't play as
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: fast as you guys. I don't care how fast play
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: the Slayer plays. I just like that you guys write.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I like Slayer songs that are a great fucking riff, yes,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: and a great and a great bassline and in an
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: awesome rhythm section. That's all they were doing. And like
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: that's that the entire this entire record is like every
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: riff is fucking is killer yep, and and and the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: drummer and the bass player all in sync and just
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: a great band, perfect timing. There were ten years as
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: a band like it's it's it's my favorite record of
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: four assignment close.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Yep, It's it's it was. It was. It was like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: this album or my number one. But I was like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: with my number one, I'm like, I gotta I gotta
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: put it on as number one based on based on
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: the band. But I don't know, Mark, what what's your
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: number two? Or do you have a response for Lamb
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: of God's Ashes of the Wake?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I I have not listened to this album.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: I'm honestly like I've heard some I've heard some songs
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: here and there, but but not enough to be able
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: to tell you, like what albums they came from Marine. Yeah,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: but I'm all about listening to an anti war album,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: which is why I agreed to listen to a Motive
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: again for the first time. Rather don't.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Listen to this one instead.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll definitely listen to this one. I'm looking at
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: the track listing on title right now and looks like
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: some of the tracks some people did remixes, some people
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: that I really like, like Justin Broderick from Godflesh. This
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: band Health did a remix, So I'm definitely gonna check
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: out this record. And I also have to say, if
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: there's any member of Slayer who sucks, it's Carrie King. Yes,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: so who gives a.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: God fuck him? Honestly, he really does suck. He does suck.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, we know what Eric's number one is here,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: so Mark, why don't you give us your number one?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: All right? My number one is by a Swedish band
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: called Dungan is spelled d u n g e N.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: The album title, I'm not sure how to pronounce it correctly.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's todd debt lunked. It's t A d
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: e t l u g n T three separate words.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: This album kind of caught onto my radar. There was
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: a website at the time called buddyhead dot com that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: I used to read. Okay, uh, it's just the website.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Ever.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just completely irrelevant, not afraid to talk shit
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: on anybody, including very important people who could easily cause
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: them financial or physical harm. And this album was on
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: one of their top album lists. I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: And then that that that record store that I mentioned earlier,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Aquarius Records from San Francisco, they had this album on
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: their list and make a review of it and they
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: had some song samples and I listened to it and
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: I was incredibly blown away. I was like, I need
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: this record. And then I actually got to go to
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: Aquarius maybe like a year or two later, and bought
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: the CD at the store and yeah, So the deal
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: with this band, So it's this guy, Gustav Feist is
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: he essentially wrote and recorded it himself. There were he
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: had some people play on it, but he he mainly
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: did it himself. And it's I would kind of describe
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: it as up the psychedelic rock with that has like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: real heavy sixties and seventies elements, Okay, with some with
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: some sprinkles of free jazz and some folk here and there.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: But the production and the recording the album sounds like
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: it was recorded back then, but with with the higher fidelity.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: Just really unique sound to it, very melodic vocals and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: and really great harmonies. And it's all in Swedish, so
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know what any of the songs were about.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the translations right now.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah I can't. I can't sing along with them. But
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: but it's just incredibly catchy, some really great kind of
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: fuzz guitar lead guitar playing on it. It's just it
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: really just takes you on a musical adventure. And uh yeah.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: It's I just pulled them up on my Apple Music.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: I got to hear because of course I have not
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: heard this I have not heard this band. I have
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: not heard this album, of course, so I definitely have
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: to dive into it. If you're talking about Swedish psychedelic rock,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm all for it. Let's do it, let's get to yes.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of had a buzz going on around
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: the time that this album came out, and it faded
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: pretty quickly after that. Even though they continue to make
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: really stellar albums. They were a little bit more low
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: key than this one. But I all them live at
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: a in store performance at Fingerprints Music in Long Beach,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: which was not its sonny. It's a big record story,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: but not as big as say Amoba Records in La
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: or Berkeley. And this was in twenty fifteen, and I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: was blown away. They just played as a four piece
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: and I was still blown away.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just really really killer musicians, really great songwriting. I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: don't know what the lyrics you are about, but I'm
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: sure they're great too.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: I gotta get got Google translated out.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she said Swedish. Jeff Zen absolutely Swedish.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: Yes I could. I have told my wife Michelle that
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: we need to go over to different countries in Europe
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: just to see certain bands and or performances, like in
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: the country of that particular artist, like whether it's Finland,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: whether it's Sweden. This needs to happen, folks, This needs
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: to happen out there. Give me money to do this.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: I need money now. I'm begging. Now, I'm begging. Please
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: don't hate a mode of either.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: That is a great idea. And I have to say,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: there was so much great music from Sweden, and I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: think I think a big part of that is because
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: their government actually funds musicians there, allows them to be
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: able to make a living playing music that pays for
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: them to have a rehearsal space, pays for them to
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: go on tour. I think that's why it's been such
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: a hotbed of of killer sounds from from death metal,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: the hardcore too, you know whatever. Don Getting plays psyche rock.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, damn it, Mark, that sounds like fucking socialism to me.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: I know, horrible that dude, damn com.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: You know. Mark al Sebastian has always said that about Scotland,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: where they, uh, every musician that band was allowed to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: like be musician because Scotland like paid their hat their tuition,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: like and like paid them to be to pay them
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: to be musicians basically, and then that's how it became
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: a great band. Like that's one of the that's one
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: of their like go to commentaries and interviews, same thing.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have to think that it's just
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: so much easier for a band to reach that pinnacle
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: of you know, of their potential when all they have
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: to focus on is music.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I can't wait to I can't wait to listen
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: to this band and then and listen to this particular
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: album for sure. So as we close up things here,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: as I talk about my number one here, a lot
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: of folks know that I am a kill Switch Engage fan.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: So yes, kill Switch Engage. The End of Heartache that
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: album in two thousand and four when it came out.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: This is the album that really solidified this band as
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: being one of my favorite bands of all times. I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: knew about their previous album, Alive or Just Breathing, had
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: listened to a few songs from that album when both
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: Jesse Leach and Howard Jones were on that It was
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: kind of a bizarre time. Kill Switch actually had their
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: debut album, did absolutely nothing. It was a self titled album.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: It just didn't go anywhere, didn't do anything. Live or
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Just Breathing did actually did some good stuff in terms
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: of getting the band in front of folks, and I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: ended up it was because of It was simply because
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: of downloading music online back then that I actually found
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: kill Switch Engage and I found this album and I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: was just I was just absolutely hooked. End of Heartache
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: was Howard Jones's first real album with the band. Like
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: I said, he was doing some songs on the live
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: or Just Breathing, and they had to re record parts
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: of that album and certain songs of that album as well,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: But just an iconic album for me. His vocals, Howard
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Jones vocals, His the strength of his votevocals came through
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: so much. The lyrics themselves, the guitar riffs from Adam Dukowitch,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: the one of the main guitarists and songwriters of the band.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: Just the overall songwriting too was something that I really
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: hadn't heard then with regard to them, like the emotion
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: with the lyrics and the actual guitar I call it
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: mark maybe kind of understand like being a guitarist like
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: the guitar lyrics themselves in a way, And that's what
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: really solidified it for me with this band, and with
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: this particular album, End of Heartache in two thousand and
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: four as one of my top favorite albums of all times.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: The musicianship from these five guys, and then like since then,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: Howard Jones left the band just because of some mental
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: health issues, and then Jesse Leach is brought back and
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: he's been with the band now. I think it's like
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: eleven years. He's been back on the band. They're getting
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: ready to release a new album in February and which
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: I can't wait for. The first single had has dropped
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, which is freaking great song. Uh,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: of course I'm biased, but kill Switch engages end of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Heartache and Eric and I, like Eric mentioned earlier, they're
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: a band that we saw open a few times for
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: different different bands that we saw, whether it was Slayer,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: they've opened for Lamb of God as well and it
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: was Man. Just a damn good live band too, and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: they kind of have fun too, like as Adam Duke
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Witch when he is on stage, he's running around, jumping around,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: He's fucking crazy, and they're just fun yet incredible incredible musicians.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: So kill Switch engage end of Heartache for me, guys, I.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: Think that's amazing that Howard Jones had all those hits
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: in the eighties and then traveled from the UK to
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: Massachusetts to join this band as a metal court singer.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: God seeing in front of the Slayer banner.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so yes, huge. Kill Switch engage fan love,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: plaid love love playing their licks on my guitar and uh,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: they're That's the top one for me, Top one for me.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: All right, boy, guys, that was a solid sport.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: I support kill Engage also because they're from Western Massachusetts.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: There are I think Dinosaur Junior is the only other
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: band from Western Massachusetts ever. Really amazing.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's it.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: It's they have some iconic shows kill Switch at the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: Palladium in Massachusetts. They have some killer shows that they
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: have played there. Yeah, and Worsters Yeah yep. So all right, man,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: you guys, Mark, do you have anything else before we
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: head out here? This is a solid, solid show. Top
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: five albums from two thousand and four.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: Do we want to mention any albums that we liked
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: briefly from this year?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Ooh, we can do that, Eric, would you be up
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: for that?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Let me let me think you guys go first.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: Mark go ahead, you brought you brought up the idea. Yeah,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: let's let's do a couple here.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: Sure I won't I won't get into him too too heavily.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: But some of my favorite records from this year the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: final album by Schillac to All Trains. Steve Albini unfortunately
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: passed away this year, but his I mean he if
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: you're into independent music, you know who Steve Albini is.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: He's recorded some of incredibly iconic albums. He's kind of
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: an icon in and of himself. And and I thought his
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: final album with Shillac was just a perfect way to, uh,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: to kind of top off his illustrious, amazing career. Sue
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: Mac The Healer the Healers the name of the album.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: Su Mac is the band, super heavy, slow crushing record.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: It's four songs. The shortest is twelve minutes, the longest
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: is twenty five minutes. Yeah, it's the kind of album
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: that it's good to put on when you're working or
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: doing something. Yes, but really great. Mel Banana three plus
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: five is the album. Uh, just insanely good Japanese crazy
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: kind of noise rock band with female vocals. That was
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: a killer record. Blood Incantation their new album Absolute Elsewhere,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: just phenomenal death metal like Morbid Angel meets Noior or
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Tangerine Dream like a really interesting combo. There. Those are.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: Those are some of the highlights for me for this year.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice. Uh for me, I'm gonna just
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: a couple albums that have just meant a lot to
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: me this year. Maybe I'll do a few here, but
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: I mean the first one is knocked Loose just an
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: incredible metal band. Their album You Won't Go Before You're
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Supposed To. It's just every song is killer, and it's
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's the most poetic type of metal that
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: I have listened to in a very long time. That
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: is just in your face. Brian Garrison, the lead singer,
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  Speaker 3: just his scream, his blood curdling screams are are perfect
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  Speaker 3: for the that. I don't know if it's mark, I
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's like a drop a flat that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: they're playing on some baritone type of guitar or something,
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  Speaker 3: but my god, it's it's amazing just in your face.
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  Speaker 3: But it's also poetic in so many ways, not just
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  Speaker 3: from a lyrical standpoint, but also just from a pure
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  Speaker 3: musicianship standpoint. And another band that I've really gotten into,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: and I saw him live when I when I ended
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: up seeing Mammoth Wolfgang van Halen's band, and he had this,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: He had a band that was just playing guitars, bass
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: and drums. There was no vocals at all. They're called intervals.
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  Speaker 3: They put on an album this year called Memory Palace,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just it just straight up like I think,
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  Speaker 3: like even going beyond, like a Steve Vi type of
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: feel and vibe to it where it's just the ultimate drummer,
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  Speaker 3: bass and guitar musicianship. If you are a nerd like
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: I am with this stuff, I could have this song
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: like again, have it on in the background. There's no
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: vocals or anything like that, but the phrasing is amazing.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: Another great band and album again, Interval's Memory Palace. I
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: just wanted to mention those two. But I will say,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: like I've been getting into a metal band called spirit
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Box from Canada. They put out a bunch of singles
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  Speaker 3: this year. They got a new album coming out in
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. But Spiritbox, their new album is gonna
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: be called Tsunami s Their song Perfect Soul is freaking phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: It just came out probably about a month month and
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: a half ago. And they're a band I love the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: lead singer. She's got this amazing alto slash sometime every
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: now and again, soprano voice and her harmonies are fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: So against spirit Box anyway, that's uh. Those are some
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: bands that I have loved this year. What about Aaron?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: What about you? Eric I?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Billy Dug, a band called Necro out of the Oakland area. Yeah,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: death just straight death metal band. They put a record
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: called Lifeless Birth, which is just a perfect death metal
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like album title, great band, great record. Uh again,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: it's not complicated, you know, it's not in the same being.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: It's like cannibal course, but like just just kind of
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: straight death metal, kind of well like probably uh like
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: blood in Hitdation like Jeff talked about. And I gotta say,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: my my kids turned me onto some good stuff. I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed the new Tyler of the Creator record Chromacopeia.
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  Speaker 3: All right, pretty full record.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: It was one of those like I had a listen
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, like having a dad moment, like
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I like this. I feel old,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: but my kids are like my kids are banging their
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: heads in the back of the car, and I'm like okay.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: And I listened to a couple of times like oh yeah, great,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: actually really good record. Cowboy Corner at Beyonce. No, I'm kidding.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, holy cow, did you see her
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: performance this past week in football?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: But I really did, like uh uh what's his name?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: M J.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Lennerman but had a record called Manning Fireworks. Uh, I
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: like I like his style. He's very much. It made
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: sense that he he played along with Dinosaur Junior. They
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: did their like kind of week of music, and I
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: think it was out in La Mark.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was really miss Yeah.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: I think Kim Gordon came out in the stage and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: did some biggy stuff, like I really dug the stuff
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: he did with Dino with angielm. But but his his
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: actually his records really really good. I really like him
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: those my three.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: Check out his earlier records. If you like that one.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: I think his earlier stuff is even better. It's like
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: more lo fi. But really yeah, really good.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's not good. My list, My list fucking
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: suck this time, guys. I don't know why. I just
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: like you guys, do you guys are so deep with
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: your your list and I've got like fucking velvet revolver
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: in a perfect circle on here. This my list sucks,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: I think, come on, I know, I know, I know,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, you guys were so deep like
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: into it. I feel like mine was too mainstream kind of.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm disappointed in myself.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I called Lamb of God or
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: kill switch Engage extreme. I mean, no, I know it.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: It seems it seems. It seems mainstream. I mean yeah,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: you know it seems mainstream because you hear those those
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: names so often, kind of being involved in that scene.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: But probably to a lot of people listen to the show,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: they're not they don't know that scene. They don't know
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: these bands, so it's all new to them.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: Well, folks, you can send me some hate mail. I'm
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia Sports Little Gmail dot com.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, like Carrie King's from Hell, I rise no
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck that guy. Oh my god, he's still playing.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: No, guys, I heard he plays really fast. Yeah.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: Hell, good show, guys, great show, seriously, Mark Leacass, Eric Leonard,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Mark Buddy, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: It was good.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: Good talking to you again. Good talking music with you,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: my friend.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: Oh my pleasure. Feel exactly the same. I'm happy to
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: talk music anytime.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: All right, Eric Buddy, It's gonna be nice seeing you
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: and your family soon. We're gonna be us buddies are
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: getting together with our families to hang out, do a
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: little Christmas gathering. It's gonna be a good time.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: It's only for a motive and everyone be like, why,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: why is he playing, I.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: Can't do it. I can't. I can't. I can't. I'm
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: not gonna be able to do it now. I can't.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: All right, folks, Well, if you liked this show, just
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: let us know what I'd love to hear from you
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: all about what bands, maybe twenty years ago that you
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: thought were the best albums put out by those bands
• 1:34:20
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• 1:34:29
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• 1:34:31
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• 1:34:34
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• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: it for us. We are going to be having a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: an outtake show and a best of show next week
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: as we finished out twenty twenty four. That being said,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: take care everybody, We'll catch you next time.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: He was