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- 0:00[SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the Pacer's report with Mike Rich, John Robertson, and Will Rutherford, only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:12[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the Central Indiana Sports Report, Pacer's fans for a special edition of the Pacer's report, kind of the...
- 0:22[SPEAKER_02]: Reaction to the Pacers lost to the Bucks, but more than that, a reaction to the start of the season.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_02]: Record wise hasn't gone well.
- 0:32[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you're watching this team though, it's really hard not to like them.
- 0:37[SPEAKER_02]: Hard not to be proud of them.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_02]: They've been in every single game except for the Memphis game, which got away with a bunch of injuries of another one to night.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, congratulations, Janice.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be Ray J. Dennis.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy Bradley, congratulations.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and all is a fun game to watch.
- 0:55[SPEAKER_03]: It's like you said they've been in it.
- 0:58[SPEAKER_03]: They've been in the games.
- 0:59[SPEAKER_03]: They're really playing it hard.
- 1:01[SPEAKER_03]: They've adjusted to focus on the strengths that they have.
- 1:05[SPEAKER_03]: They're very limited to think of.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_03]: Seeing Quinn Jackson, Yoke Down, the other hamstring injury is just extremely disappointing.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_03]: you're just hoping for some of these starters to come back and and gel with what whatever's going to be left.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_03]: But Isaiah Jackson, just fantastic tonight.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he just played lights out at me.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't compare any of the miles turner.
- 1:31[SPEAKER_03]: I'd take him any day after that beat.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_03]: I think he was up or for this matchup with Miles Turner that maybe my house turned was.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_03]: All in all, he'd like to see a six and one record versus a one at six record, but it is what he's doing.
- 1:51[SPEAKER_03]: Well, continue to pull for this team and hope that they continue to just build on what they're doing.
- 1:58[SPEAKER_03]: They're coming out.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_03]: They're playing hard.
- 2:01[SPEAKER_01]: They did better than I expected.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_01]: You guys gave me a hard time last time because I said I thought it was going to be a blowout.
- 2:07[SPEAKER_01]: And you, I was wrong.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: I was happy to be wrong.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_01]: Furpy went down with sucks.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_01]: You got to wonder when the injuries are going to soft.
- 2:17[SPEAKER_01]: That's the biggest thing.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually, I was super happy to see him in it.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I was happy to see him playing as well as they did.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_01]: But until these injuries stop happening every single game, honestly, it's, you never know who we were going to have on the floor.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_01]: ridiculous ridiculous it's just it's hard to get hype and be all about it when when you never know what five guys are going to be able to play right you get one guy back and then he's out again where you get two guys back and then they're out again or just it's just hard to it's hard to get any momentum I think that you're seeing as far as the injuries this is the consequence of deep playoff runs
- 2:55[SPEAKER_00]: is that you just don't get the ample rest, you come back, some soft tissue that just finds sway to strain, or you pull it, and you just don't feel right, you don't feel 100%, especially too.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm hard to play it for team-candidat and the Olympics, and then Tyrease, obviously, kind of a non-factor at this point for the Achilles injury, but
- 3:16[SPEAKER_00]: I'm proud of milestone as awesome for him to come home and play the exact same way that he did in the NBA finals, which is why the Pacers don't have a banner hanging up right now that says NBA champion 2024 2025.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to win when you legitimately got the last year's G. League roster playing meaningful NBA minutes right now, until they get healthy, I think you're going to continue to see this team really struggle to hold wins out.
- 3:50[SPEAKER_02]: I want to reiterate this real fast will.
- 4:00[SPEAKER_02]: Mac McClung two minutes, Ray J. Dennis eight minutes, tail and Peter 11 minutes, Johnny Furfie 13 minutes.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_02]: Just being in these games is a stoundingly good performance by this team through six games and their one and five.
- 4:19[SPEAKER_02]: Through seven games and their one and six.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_03]: I think any team that plays them doesn't know who they're playing.
- 4:27[SPEAKER_03]: So there's no team on the players are playing.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_03]: So they never had a little bit of what to expect jump out on them for a little bit.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_03]: What really frustrated me about this game was just the free throw shooting.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_03]: They just missed some key free throws at key moments that they could have.
- 4:44[SPEAKER_03]: And it was everybody.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_03]: See, Arkham was messing with me.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_03]: Smith was messing up those free throws could have kept them in the game and potentially ahead at the end of the game.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is where you miss free throw wise.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're out to 90% free throw shooters between Haliburg and Nimbhard.
- 4:59[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you're just going to see that this year, like a team free throw person is just going to struggle.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_00]: See, Arkham is kind of hit or miss.
- 5:07[SPEAKER_00]: I think from the free throw line, you definitely are free throw shooters.
- 5:10[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is a excellent free throw shooter.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_00]: But thank you for bringing that up.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you're just going to see this team struggle to do all of the things that
- 5:21[SPEAKER_00]: winning team to do there's a fine line between being five and two and one and six and you've seen it with this pacers team and when you have guys like pale and Peter and all respect he shouldn't be seeing the floor he's just not there yet.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_02]: Then Shepherd shouldn't be seeing the floor and he's having to play every minute.
- 5:40[SPEAKER_00]: Now part of one thing that does bother me a little bit is
- 5:44[SPEAKER_00]: There was an opportunity to bring in some veteran guard death onto this team.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_00]: And the decision was kind of made not to do so, which I think that you can get behind in terms of everything works out.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really needed right now.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_00]: Why signed Mac McClone if he's going to play three minutes?
- 6:02[SPEAKER_00]: I get he's getting used to the system and stuff, but I think at least play the guy a little bit.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, what's the point having one roster?
- 6:09[SPEAKER_00]: If he's just going to be the 13th guy, they signed him.
- 6:12[SPEAKER_02]: They signed him when Jackson was out and quitting Jackson came back, so that putting back at the end of the rotation.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just one of those where maybe some depth addition, if you just wanted to make this season, I think a little bit more.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_02]: They brought it up in pain.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_02]: And I would much rather play Ray J. Dennis
- 6:36[SPEAKER_02]: I've been touting this BAM out of bio trade and if I say a Jackson plays like that, you don't need to BAM out of bio.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_03]: Six offense of rebounds, I'm that's exactly what we didn't get for Miles Turner.
- 6:48[SPEAKER_02]: Good defense, good defense, sometimes he did play some poor defense too much.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_02]: He getting foul out.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_02]: He could have been called for about three more tonight, too, that they didn't call, so
- 7:04[SPEAKER_01]: I only got to see the fourth quarter, but Miles did not look impressive in the fourth quarter.
- 7:10[SPEAKER_02]: The first quarter was the only one, first quarter played well, and again, he was above scoring average after the first quarter.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_03]: That is minus.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_02]: That points in the first quarter, I think.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_02]: What did he finish with, nine?
- 7:23[SPEAKER_02]: Nine.
- 7:24[SPEAKER_02]: man, I am just so, so glad.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_02]: Miles Turner said something in an article I read, leading up to the game that kind of made me say, I told you so.
- 7:35[SPEAKER_02]: He said that the Pacers offer made it impossible for him to even negotiate with them.
- 7:41[SPEAKER_02]: They had no interest in bringing about Miles Turner back, and tonight proved exactly why.
- 7:47[SPEAKER_00]: Miles Turner's legitimately probably the biggest asshole I've ever seen in the public setting, following what he did for this franchise, like this was the guy that had very little public disrespect.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_00]: He was always kind of rumored and trade rumours, but everybody was kind of throw Miles Turner.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good for Miles Turner that they make this run, you know.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_00]: And then he just is completely dismantled as when the WWE turned John Cena heel.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't work.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_00]: John Cena is not a heel.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_00]: Miles Turner is not a heel and he just, he goes on Dusty's podcast and it's like, just shut the hell up.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're hitting on the head though.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_01]: I think he wanted to try and play the heel kind of like John Cena turn, but he just doesn't have it in him.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_01]: And now that he's getting the the feedback and hate from like I saw some interviews today where he tried to turn it around.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_01]: Well, don't turn it around now, Miles.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_00]: No, he went on the whole press tour of the entire summer talking about, let's just shit on the pace or let's just say all the reasons I want to go to Milwaukee, this that and the other, I love them the walkie signed them because it hamstrung their roster and their contract situation.
- 8:45[SPEAKER_00]: for a sub-par player for the next four years.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's incredible that they almost did the pace of the favor.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_00]: I think we should almost thank Miles Turner for his sacrifice to giving the pace of the chance to make the finals once Tyre's Hall of Burton returns again because he made the books a lot worse.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_00]: And that team,
- 9:05[SPEAKER_00]: was no better this year in game seven of their season than they were last year in the Eastern Conference first round.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_00]: So, and Greg, I hope you're joking about Bam.
- 9:18[SPEAKER_00]: I get we want to prop up Isaiah Jackson.
- 9:20[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get Bam.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_02]: If we played like that every night, you don't need to go out and get Bam out of bio.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying he's going to play like that every night.
- 9:27[SPEAKER_02]: That was a just
- 9:30[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just curious as to what John and Mike kind of think in terms of if that move make sense kind of given the current state.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a move you make right now a little earlier.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_00]: Do you wait for the summer.
- 9:42[SPEAKER_02]: I wait is available now.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to be available this summer.
- 9:46[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_01]: I don't make any big moves right now.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_01]: I think the season's not going to be much of anything, right?
- 9:52[SPEAKER_01]: We know the season's not going to be much okay.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_02]: So you're having for next year, too.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_02]: That's the point.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like you, you, you have a lot more trade bait and draft capital if this season doesn't go well.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_02]: If you get to Ben Matherin without signing him for next year, you have no leverage.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_02]: You have leverage now.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_02]: You have no leverage if you get to the summer and it becomes a free agent.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not convinced that he's the player we want.
- 10:18[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not willing to say that he's.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_02]: It would be better.
- 10:20[SPEAKER_02]: Name one player in the league would fit the Pacers better in those center position.
- 10:24[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's a single one that's realistic.
- 10:28[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair about because he makes us that much better.
- 10:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_01]: That you're willing to invest right now and then who knows what happens.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_01]: Because then what happens if he gets injured and then we can't even get that part together by the end.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_01]: It just I would rather wait till we have more information about the season.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_01]: about the next season.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, we already talked about this.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be a terrible GM.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_01]: We already talked about, I'd be a terrible GM because I wouldn't trade away people because I like them.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to listen to what I say about this.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm also curious to see if they can kind of flow the maddering nugget nugget to the heat potentially.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if maddering fits with Tyler hero as much.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about super neat ball dominant guys playing together.
- 11:11[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the truth.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_01]: I personally just knew just too much up in the area.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing to gamble sometimes on probabilities, but I need more information with the way things are right now before I make a big move this season.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_00]: I think I agree with that, especially considering the Pacers own their first drop pick now, how bad their season goes determines where they, where they're at it.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_00]: If the Pacers are potentially at top five, lottery, it team, I think you,
- 11:44[SPEAKER_00]: probably draft the guy of the future, get him on a cheaper deal.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_00]: Bam's going to be expensive.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_00]: Probably gives you the ability to re-up and him hard in the Smith when they're ready to do so.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_00]: You got to re-examine.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_02]: They really have the chance to contenders next year.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to be interested at all in draft picks.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_02]: That is all draft capital.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_02]: If they got the first pick in the draft, it would be trade bait.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_02]: They're not interested in a rookie join in this team.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_02]: assuming their healthy, which apparently we can't assume at all.
- 12:18[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a relevant, because even if we have the worst record in the NBA, we're not getting the first draft take.
- 12:22[SPEAKER_01]: We've never gotten the first draft take.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably true.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_01]: The NBA is not going to let the Pacers have the first draft take.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_02]: No matter what the draft take is, it will be trade bait.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_02]: It will, I seriously doubt that they would draft someone to stash on the bench for now.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_01]: I think they would use it.
- 12:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think they
- 12:43[SPEAKER_01]: because I do think they're going all in next season.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's too early to start making moves yet.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about the beginning of the end of Pascal C. Occam's career.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: Not that it's close to over, but he is just passing the peak of his career or at it.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_02]: You can't be messing around with seasons and talking about 28.
- 13:07[SPEAKER_01]: No, Pascal, blood all over his jersey tonight, man.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_01]: That dude's sacrificing his body.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: He's not even going to be healthy next year.
- 13:13[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was John as his blood.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_01]: It was getting crazy out there.
- 13:18[SPEAKER_00]: Pascal's game will translate with age.
- 13:22[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not worried about him.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_00]: Even a little past prime, Siakim is not somebody that thrives off explosiveness.
- 13:29[SPEAKER_00]: He's a short creator.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he's a kind of guy that we even see 738.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's doing a great thing to his father.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_00]: I think the advantage of his pride.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_00]: Depends on if you're supporting castes with them, a few of your third score, or even past his prime, you say you bring in the center of your future, you have Tyrease.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_00]: That's your once-you combo, you've got the combination of niece, myth, and him hard.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_02]: It would be horrible to waste his prime.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, are we liking what we see with Jaros Walker?
- 14:06[SPEAKER_01]: It's in pieces.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, knees earlier.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_01]: I only saw the fourth quarter.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_01]: He looked good in the fourth quarter.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he still takes too many three pointers.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_02]: That he's got to stop with the three pointers.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_02]: It's just bad shots, one you're expecting to miss it.
- 14:24[SPEAKER_03]: But the dime he threw off the miles, Turner turned over at the end of the second quarter, and through that outlet was fantastic.
- 14:33[SPEAKER_03]: So, the vision he has is outstanding, and there's a lot of potential there.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_02]: The vision.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_02]: So far is game log this year for assists.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_00]: if he can continue to develop that he will be an excellent bench addition to this roster next year.
- 14:58[SPEAKER_00]: Still needs to work on it.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_00]: He's able to create his own shot.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's still struggling with that little bit.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of reliant on the catch and shoot three.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he'll ever be Pascal Siakum, but I think that he can get near that ceiling if that makes sense.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_02]: They lost to the thunder and double over time, game two, they lost at Memphis.
- 15:19[SPEAKER_02]: They were beaten handily, but it was close throughout until the injury started piling up.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_02]: Lost by four at Minnesota by two at Dallas, then they get blown out by Atlanta.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_02]: Then they win, they beat the Golden State Warriors on Saturday night.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_02]: And then they take the Milwaukee bucks to the buzzer.
- 15:37[SPEAKER_02]: You're in the reaction of that.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_01]: if they're going to come back to the reality they're out playing where they should be playing to be honest with you and i hate to say that because i want to see them doing well they're getting out of these games but that can only last for so long before they start to hit reality i think until the people get back what to say about this franchise Mike
- 15:57[SPEAKER_03]: We've all set it and we have faith and and pressure, I trust in pressure.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_03]: And I think trusting Carl, I think we have great coaches.
- 16:06[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they have this team prepared every night to keep the team motivated.
- 16:11[SPEAKER_03]: They know they're not a 1 in 16.
- 16:13[SPEAKER_03]: uh... when they're healthy they know that and and they're doing everything they can and they're putting it out there and it was a great it was a great game to watch except for the last second it was back and forth they were in it they were competitive they got down by ten or twelve points and they would come back and they just kept fighting and kept calling their way back into the game they're just their scrappy team they have
- 16:42[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to have what 11 people that are going to be in street clothes for the next game.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, great.
- 16:49[SPEAKER_03]: I just hope we start getting some of our players back like NEM hard in McConnell and Delaware.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_03]: So.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_03]: And see where we're at.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_03]: I still think we have our starters back and we just keep the people we got right now, healthy.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_03]: I still think we have a good shot at getting back to 500.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Wednesday night the Pacers host the nets and they really really need to win this win and they go on the road Denver Golden State Utah and Phoenix before returning home the member 15 against Toronto Will your final thoughts for this podcast on the Pacers one and seven start and a 11715 lost tonight in the water
- 17:37[SPEAKER_00]: Miles Turner is an absolute terrorist to deserve whatever he has coming is what he failed this city in the franchise for 10 years.
- 17:46[SPEAKER_00]: He's the reason we lost the finals.
- 17:48[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that he is going to ruin the Pacer's biggest rival that does make me happy and
- 17:55[SPEAKER_00]: as far for the Pacers, they need players to get healthy to know what they have for next year.
- 18:01[SPEAKER_00]: Until questions are answered, I think it's hard to go into next year with the solid plan.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_01]: My final thought is, we knew coming into the season that wasn't going to be
- 18:13[SPEAKER_01]: good.
- 18:14[SPEAKER_01]: I think we got our our hopes up a little bit of preseason because it started to look like a squad, but rather than get super down and upset about these early wins and as we're as losses or early losses and as the loss has started to stack up.
- 18:29[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with Will though.
- 18:30[SPEAKER_01]: We don't really know what we have for next year.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_01]: We need to use it to get people ready for next year.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_01]: But don't I just I don't want fans to start doing the typical Indianapolis thing I'm giving up and hating
- 18:44[SPEAKER_01]: was going to be non-significant.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you both.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to see the city give up on this team.
- 18:51[SPEAKER_03]: I think the city needs to understand where this team is at right now.
- 18:55[SPEAKER_03]: They need the support of the Pacer fans if they sold out tonight, 17,000 strong.
- 19:02[SPEAKER_03]: It was loud as exciting, and again, it's the effort that these guys are putting forth.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_03]: The energy that this team has, the chemistry that they have,
- 19:11[SPEAKER_03]: I still think that's there, even with the hindered guys.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_03]: You see him accountable.
- 19:14[SPEAKER_03]: You see how a Burton, you see him on that bench just, you know, so excited for players like Peters and Quentin Jackson, they're excited for him to get those minutes and to do well.
- 19:26[SPEAKER_03]: They were pumped about Isaiah Jackson tonight.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_03]: It's not time to give up on this team.
- 19:31[SPEAKER_03]: Indiana does traditionally kind of go that way a lot of times with their sports teams.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_03]: We've been very blessed in the
- 19:37[SPEAKER_03]: In the last few years, with the pace routine, it's been really, really good, but I agree.
- 19:42[SPEAKER_03]: I think we just need to stick behind them and, you know, once these guys get back from injuries, figure out what it is, it's causing all these injuries for one.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you had a great point earlier with the long season last year playing in the off season.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely just put a lot of wear and tear on your body.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles Turner and the bucks might have won one battle tonight, but they have not won this war.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_03]: I think our future is much brighter than theirs over the next five years.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks guys.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate your time as always.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: It's been fun.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be an interesting season.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be talking about it all the way through when or lose.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sirs.
- 20:25[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to Mike John and Will for joining me to talk some paces tonight.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_02]: Been a frustrating start, but I love this team.
- 20:33[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening.
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