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- 0:04Speaker 1: It is Monday, November fifth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy I always brought you by Jeholme Loans and
- 0:13Speaker 1: now Pete Christo's personal chauffeur J production Assistant. I guess
- 0:21Speaker 1: would be maybe a title for that. That is a
- 0:23Speaker 1: nice ring to it. J Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour,
- 0:27Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans, J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco's
- 0:31Speaker 1: down in South Florida. Tony Boselli is on the line
- 0:34Speaker 1: of New York. Jeff Logumen coming up in studio. Fred
- 0:37Speaker 1: Taylor over the phone. We're gonna pack show. Pete. How
- 0:39Speaker 1: are you, Bud? I'm good? How are you? JP? Refreshed,
- 0:43Speaker 1: relaxed the bye don't talk to me about bye weeks.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I do not want to hear anything about bye weeks.
- 0:50Speaker 1: I got some nice rest in, you know, slept in.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Why don't you want hear anything about bye week because
- 0:55Speaker 1: I don't get one. That's why we don't really work ever,
- 0:59Speaker 1: So what does it matter do you talk about base? Elli?
- 1:01Speaker 1: How many weeks in a row can you not be
- 1:03Speaker 1: in the studio working? I thought that I thought we
- 1:06Speaker 1: got flexed out today. Oh that was just the Jags about.
- 1:12Speaker 1: That's what I was confused. Now you know, you know
- 1:15Speaker 1: what it is is, Uh, you just have too many
- 1:18Speaker 1: other things going on in your life. That's not Actually
- 1:21Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into this specific so I'm not
- 1:23Speaker 1: gonna leave leave anyone hanging out to try. But there's
- 1:27Speaker 1: a very there's a very good reason why I'm doing
- 1:30Speaker 1: the show by phone what i'd usually be doing it
- 1:33Speaker 1: by in the studio because I never missed one day
- 1:35Speaker 1: step four when I'm in London. And I'm not going
- 1:37Speaker 1: to get into why I'm up there right now. You
- 1:39Speaker 1: know what I call this an improvement. That's what I
- 1:43Speaker 1: call this. You know, I got a lot of I
- 1:44Speaker 1: got a lot of tweets last week saying how great
- 1:47Speaker 1: the flow was between me and Logiman last week. Great,
- 1:51Speaker 1: go for it, said, people said it was. The show
- 1:55Speaker 1: was a lot less more subdued last week for some reason.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Since you want and god, you guys have my vote
- 2:07Speaker 1: a angry Uh, here's what I'm voting for that I
- 2:12Speaker 1: voted now you didn't. Here's what's coming to miss me
- 2:15Speaker 1: too much? I don't like now, but you still miss me.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight. The second half of the
- 2:24Speaker 1: season beginning. Question marks remain for this football team, of course,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League. Like we said,
- 2:32Speaker 1: Jeff Flagman coming up in the second hour, the great
- 2:34Speaker 1: flow with Pete Prisco will get a lot into that,
- 2:36Speaker 1: and then uh, we'll hear from Fred Taylor. Vince Manua
- 2:39Speaker 1: passed away. We'll get Fred's take on that and the
- 2:43Speaker 1: running back situation for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Could for Nette
- 2:46Speaker 1: be back? Well, that's part of the story today. The
- 2:48Speaker 1: Jaguars back on the practice field. Leonard for Nette was
- 2:51Speaker 1: on the practice field today. Blake Bortles was on the
- 2:53Speaker 1: practice field today as well. There was a reported injury
- 2:56Speaker 1: to his non throwing shoulder. The big news though, seven
- 3:00Speaker 1: back out there. There's no official injury designation today on
- 3:03Speaker 1: this Monday. Those will start on Wednesday. But good to
- 3:06Speaker 1: see the running back. Maybe could he be back this week? Well,
- 3:10Speaker 1: big picture look for this football team for head coach
- 3:12Speaker 1: Doug Marone, he's looking at himself at the bye week
- 3:15Speaker 1: and trying to get this team turned around. Well, I
- 3:26Speaker 1: get back to a head coach Doug Marone coming up. Yes,
- 3:29Speaker 1: that clip, by the way, yeah right, that was outstanding.
- 3:31Speaker 1: I thought it was really incul very interesting and you know,
- 3:38Speaker 1: you know that that sums up the first half. It
- 3:40Speaker 1: does right, four in a row to end before the
- 3:43Speaker 1: bye week, and that does kind of summing up. Guys,
- 3:45Speaker 1: it's um. You can say a lot of things. You
- 3:47Speaker 1: gotta go out there and prove it on Sunday. Now, well,
- 3:50Speaker 1: I mean, you look at this team right now, there's
- 3:51Speaker 1: three and five there, they're they're in they're in third,
- 3:55Speaker 1: they're tied for last position. You have to get a
- 3:58Speaker 1: division way in the team leading the division. The Houston
- 4:02Speaker 1: Texans are on on a six game winning streak, and
- 4:06Speaker 1: so you're talking about it must win on Sunday. Were
- 4:09Speaker 1: not think you look too far ahead. But and I
- 4:11Speaker 1: know we don't like talking about and people probably argue
- 4:13Speaker 1: with man, but this is a must win. If you
- 4:16Speaker 1: want any chance of winning the division, you have to
- 4:18Speaker 1: win this game. Otherwise you go three and a half
- 4:19Speaker 1: back oh and three in the division with seven to play,
- 4:23Speaker 1: and I don't think you over come back. You we can.
- 4:25Speaker 1: You can start looking ahead to April when they draft.
- 4:30Speaker 1: People agree, if they have any any illusions or any
- 4:34Speaker 1: thoughts of winning the division, that they have to win
- 4:37Speaker 1: this game. It's a must win. It's a must win
- 4:40Speaker 1: and I don't think they can afford to lose any
- 4:42Speaker 1: more than two more of the rest of the way.
- 4:43Speaker 1: What we said, must win the last three weeks, guys.
- 4:46Speaker 1: And it's not a good team right now. It's not
- 4:52Speaker 1: a good team. But I don't think it's I mean,
- 4:56Speaker 1: they have to win six of of a in the
- 4:59Speaker 1: two says if they lose to only can being too
- 5:01Speaker 1: non divisional teams. They got to win the rest of
- 5:04Speaker 1: division games for sure if you want any chance. And
- 5:08Speaker 1: but there's nothing, I mean, to Pete's point, there's nothing
- 5:11Speaker 1: that gives you any confidence right now that that's gonna happen.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Right where do you start here? This week? There was
- 5:17Speaker 1: not any confidence going into the bye week. Maybe they've
- 5:21Speaker 1: cooked something up in the film room in the in
- 5:23Speaker 1: the bye week, but the personnel hasn't changed much during
- 5:26Speaker 1: the bye week, and it's got the same old guys
- 5:28Speaker 1: coming out there. Right What you think? What? Yeah, what
- 5:32Speaker 1: are you cooking up at the bye That's what I'm saying.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Like it's tough to to find anything to really like.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Are you talking about the ribs and some chicken and
- 5:39Speaker 1: some brisket? Sounds good to me? Sounds good to me
- 5:42Speaker 1: because that's about all they've got right now. Well, I mean,
- 5:45Speaker 1: but getting for net back would be nice. Was anybody else,
- 5:51Speaker 1: I'm a difference that I don't know. Was anybody else
- 5:54Speaker 1: bothered by the fact that he was at the LSU
- 5:55Speaker 1: game on Saturday night? I got other issues. I'm not
- 5:59Speaker 1: gonna bring up Well, you just brought it up, Tony. No,
- 6:03Speaker 1: I got other issues. I'm not gonna bring up that one.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I mean, there's I mean, it's just I don't care
- 6:07Speaker 1: that he's at tell shoot since by week can do
- 6:09Speaker 1: whatever you want. But I mean, it's just there's a
- 6:12Speaker 1: lot of things that aren't good. Looks perceptionalized my opinion,
- 6:16Speaker 1: it's not good when your offensive captain has uh, you know,
- 6:19Speaker 1: has questions around stuff like that. Right, No, you're a captain.
- 6:23Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sit here in question and the
- 6:26Speaker 1: captain I don't know his body, I don't know how
- 6:28Speaker 1: he feels, I don't know what's going on. And I've
- 6:32Speaker 1: never had hamstring, So I'll leave it at that. No.
- 6:36Speaker 1: So today, um, he did not speak with the media.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Today was open he has to talk to him since
- 6:40Speaker 1: he's been hurt. Right, Well, you see, there's if you're
- 6:42Speaker 1: the captain of the football team and you're in that position,
- 6:45Speaker 1: you need to stand up there and speak. You need
- 6:47Speaker 1: to get up there and say, look, this is what's
- 6:49Speaker 1: going on with my hamstring. This is why I'm not practicing.
- 6:52Speaker 1: I'm doing my rehab. I'm trying to get back out
- 6:54Speaker 1: there as quickly as I can. When he doesn't talk,
- 6:56Speaker 1: then there's all this perception out there of what's going
- 6:59Speaker 1: on on and people are wondering what the heck he's doing.
- 7:02Speaker 1: So I think he's doing at their service to himself
- 7:05Speaker 1: by not speaking. Well, I mean, do you agree, Tony, Yes,
- 7:13Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, we go to the last what's the
- 7:19Speaker 1: matter with you? What do you wand them back for?
- 7:21Speaker 1: Because there's something I mean, because it's because I said,
- 7:26Speaker 1: I don't like what I always don't like. I don't
- 7:29Speaker 1: like because I'm not I'm not him, I don't know
- 7:31Speaker 1: what his body is like. And I just hate questioning
- 7:34Speaker 1: the guy around injuries. I just think. But I think,
- 7:36Speaker 1: perceptional wise, in communication wise, there's ways you do think,
- 7:40Speaker 1: especially if you're a captains. Well you said the best.
- 7:43Speaker 1: I mean, I'll leave it at what you said. All right, Well,
- 7:47Speaker 1: you know me I'm gonna say it, and I'm saying
- 7:49Speaker 1: it there. He's he needs to stand up and speak
- 7:51Speaker 1: to the media and tell him what's going on. I
- 7:52Speaker 1: can't hide from him. There's no reason to hide from him.
- 7:55Speaker 1: And thus he's been told from somebody above, which I
- 7:57Speaker 1: highly doubt not to talk. Yeah, we'll find out. Let's
- 8:03Speaker 1: here to do. You know, the proof isn't being the pudding.
- 8:05Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll find out the second half. They
- 8:06Speaker 1: gotta play Indianapolis and they gotta find a way to
- 8:09Speaker 1: win a football game. And supposed that he's gonna be
- 8:12Speaker 1: on the field, and we'll find out what the team
- 8:13Speaker 1: is with him and then what he can do. I'll
- 8:16Speaker 1: tell you one thing. You sit fresh legs better, yeah,
- 8:19Speaker 1: after sitting out this long, and we'll see if not
- 8:22Speaker 1: now win right, I mean, you gotta do it after
- 8:24Speaker 1: the bye. You gotta do it at a Vision game
- 8:26Speaker 1: on the road. We'll see what happens there. Defensively for
- 8:29Speaker 1: this Jaguars team, where can the tweaks come and they're
- 8:34Speaker 1: losing Dante Fowler? Of course? What will that do for
- 8:37Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense? How do they overcome that feat? What's
- 8:40Speaker 1: one sack? I mean let's not get over the let's
- 8:42Speaker 1: not let's not lose their minds. Get one tack on
- 8:45Speaker 1: the year. I mean, I don't. I mean it's okay, great.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I mean I remember everyone's like, oh the Rams. I
- 8:52Speaker 1: mean like, okay, did he did he do anything? Yeah? Yeah,
- 8:57Speaker 1: he had to play yesterday in a run game. But
- 8:59Speaker 1: nothing pass press or no? Okay, time for the run game.
- 9:02Speaker 1: By the way, what's that they did? Time him to
- 9:05Speaker 1: play the run? No? But but tony uh. I think
- 9:08Speaker 1: it's a good smart move. They will bring in the back.
- 9:10Speaker 1: You might as well get picks for him, right, But
- 9:11Speaker 1: it's a good move. That's I think it's a great
- 9:14Speaker 1: move for Jacksonville, and it's a good way. It's a
- 9:18Speaker 1: good move for the Rams to try and amp up
- 9:20Speaker 1: a pass rush from the edge. It's not very good.
- 9:22Speaker 1: I want to give up, I think. But I don't
- 9:24Speaker 1: care what the Rams did or didn't do. I think
- 9:27Speaker 1: they'll be fine. I mean, little La laurentto McCrae open
- 9:30Speaker 1: more on first and second down. Hope this up. He'll
- 9:33Speaker 1: be the guy who rotates in there with god boy,
- 9:35Speaker 1: he'll be the third down stub rush. Sure you can
- 9:37Speaker 1: you know, take guys around and do some different things
- 9:39Speaker 1: and get different books. I don't think it affects this
- 9:41Speaker 1: defense overall in the big in the big, same at
- 9:43Speaker 1: all defense has I mean, but what needs to change
- 9:46Speaker 1: though to your question, JP, is this. This defense needs
- 9:49Speaker 1: to get back to where their pressure in the quarterback
- 9:51Speaker 1: and affect them quarterback. And they're not doing that consistently
- 9:54Speaker 1: right now. You can't do it without a lead, Tony
- 9:59Speaker 1: leag You know when you have third and uh seven plus,
- 10:02Speaker 1: you can do it. Sure, what if they had that?
- 10:06Speaker 1: You want to go back to the stilly game and
- 10:08Speaker 1: go through it? Let's go. I don't have the descript
- 10:11Speaker 1: in front of you, idiot, wo wow, all right, we'll
- 10:15Speaker 1: five minutes and he's got him going. Keep con I
- 10:19Speaker 1: mean you want to go through. I mean you're saying
- 10:20Speaker 1: this team never gets third and long. What I'm saying
- 10:23Speaker 1: is that it's better to have the lead to let
- 10:26Speaker 1: that pass rush Goo lose too. So this is what
- 10:27Speaker 1: I love. I love. I love this narrative. So let's
- 10:30Speaker 1: play everything on the offense. That's not what I said.
- 10:33Speaker 1: It would be nice. There's no responsibility on the defense.
- 10:37Speaker 1: There's everything here is like everything here is like the
- 10:40Speaker 1: offense to this that what is it? This is a
- 10:43Speaker 1: great defense, which I think it has the potential to
- 10:46Speaker 1: be great, and they have great players, they would happen.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Like Jaalen said it best, it's not the defense right now. Yeah,
- 10:53Speaker 1: but let me ask you this. If the defense starts
- 10:57Speaker 1: playing like a generational defense, right yeah, down the stretch,
- 11:02Speaker 1: the offense doesn't do much better than what they've been doing.
- 11:04Speaker 1: How many games do they win? On? Even? Won six games? Oh,
- 11:09Speaker 1: six of the last eight. Yeah, I do if the
- 11:12Speaker 1: defense plays to a generational level, like you're talking about
- 11:16Speaker 1: two thousand ravens, good that kind of game. Yeah, looking
- 11:19Speaker 1: at offense. Yeah, well when this when as bad as
- 11:23Speaker 1: this was it, Yeah, it's pretty bad. No, I don't know.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Well you learned from that? What else you have? Yeah,
- 11:31Speaker 1: but they could run the ball at least this team
- 11:33Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Well I thought everyone told me
- 11:36Speaker 1: that coming back. So he's in a six set. Is
- 11:39Speaker 1: he play guard or to tackle or anything? What your
- 11:42Speaker 1: second is it? Is it the back or is it
- 11:46Speaker 1: the line? Yes, it's all of it. I mean I
- 11:51Speaker 1: have my I have my opinion the line first. But
- 11:57Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I hear from everyone. When
- 11:59Speaker 1: he will get back to defense plays like, yes, sharing,
- 12:01Speaker 1: everything's fine. I'll buy that. If that's what you're selling,
- 12:07Speaker 1: I'll buy it. Well, by the way, you gotta talk
- 12:11Speaker 1: about the flexing of the game. Yeah, that that's not
- 12:14Speaker 1: a good look. The Sunday night football game against the
- 12:17Speaker 1: Steelers flexed from kickoff time to a one o'clock kickoff
- 12:21Speaker 1: on CBS. Now the King the Vikings Bears game moves
- 12:25Speaker 1: to prime time instead. I mean, I mean, get one,
- 12:30Speaker 1: get one home prime time game and it gets flex
- 12:33Speaker 1: I mean honestly that I can't think of anything worse
- 12:36Speaker 1: than that. Well, let me ask you this though, if
- 12:39Speaker 1: they win next week against the Cold and I guess
- 12:41Speaker 1: they have to make the decision now. So they obviously
- 12:42Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna beat the Colts. But if they
- 12:44Speaker 1: were four and five and the Steelers want to get
- 12:47Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's right, the Steelers. We always
- 12:51Speaker 1: draw a big market. What's wrong with that? That's not
- 12:53Speaker 1: a bad game, But can you can you guarantee that
- 12:57Speaker 1: don't if you don't think they have any confidence? Thank yous.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Fear is the Jackson three sick. I think that's accurate.
- 13:04Speaker 1: That's what the fear is and They look at the
- 13:06Speaker 1: and they look at the Bears bike and you have
- 13:08Speaker 1: two teams, records, divisional rivalries. Big markets were bigger market.
- 13:12Speaker 1: I mean Chicago's a big market. In Minnesota is a
- 13:15Speaker 1: bigger market. And it's all about the d there. It's
- 13:18Speaker 1: not like they get I mean, gang fanties understand, it's not.
- 13:22Speaker 1: The networks don't like Jacksonville. They're about money, don't they
- 13:25Speaker 1: care about They don't like losers. They don't want on
- 13:29Speaker 1: Sunday night, the prime game game. They don't want a
- 13:31Speaker 1: team with a losing record. See let me ask you this, Tony,
- 13:34Speaker 1: back in the day, if this happened to your team,
- 13:36Speaker 1: would you use this as a chip. Um, that's a
- 13:41Speaker 1: good question, Pete. I don't know. Maybe, But to me,
- 13:44Speaker 1: it's bigger than getting flexed. This is a team that's
- 13:47Speaker 1: lost four straight. You have no one to blame but yourself.
- 13:51Speaker 1: What are we gonna blame the networks? Does the network
- 13:53Speaker 1: cantre to lose four in a row? They give me
- 13:56Speaker 1: a break. I like that. We're on to the best.
- 13:58Speaker 1: He thought he expected it because they didn't want good
- 14:00Speaker 1: enough to deserve it. This is on the teeth. This
- 14:03Speaker 1: is not on the network. On the fans. It's not
- 14:05Speaker 1: on anyone else. It's on the team. You earned this.
- 14:08Speaker 1: You owned the four losses in a row and that's
- 14:10Speaker 1: why you got flucked. Alright, fellows, let's come back. We'll
- 14:14Speaker 1: dig a little deeper into the offense, the offensive line
- 14:17Speaker 1: as well. Coming up in a little bit. Fred Taylor
- 14:20Speaker 1: joins us on the phone as well. Freddie Te another
- 14:23Speaker 1: one gunned for Misselli's job. Wow, they all wanted, they
- 14:27Speaker 1: all wanted, I want to say. And then speaking of that,
- 14:32Speaker 1: Jeff Loghaman will be here in the second hour in
- 14:35Speaker 1: studio as well. We're on the NFC South will go
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- 18:18Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Holmans continues J. P.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Shadrick in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Tony
- 18:25Speaker 1: Boselli is somewhere. Where are you, Tony? By the way,
- 18:29Speaker 1: I'm actually in Boston right now, but I'm either here
- 18:32Speaker 1: nor there. Well it's there. You're in Boston. You're not here,
- 18:36Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But yeah, I'm here. Yeah you
- 18:40Speaker 1: were there? Um, all right, so Boston here. It's nice
- 18:43Speaker 1: to talk. Yeah, we got the game. No, I can
- 18:48Speaker 1: work up here that I planned when we had different, uh,
- 18:52Speaker 1: different ideas for the show this weekend after the vibe,
- 18:55Speaker 1: but that was changed. I couldn't. I tried to make
- 18:59Speaker 1: changes I could. It's okay, are you doing the game
- 19:01Speaker 1: Thursday night this week? Yeah, I'll be in Pittsburgh. Have
- 19:04Speaker 1: a great game. Yeah, that's a good game. Caroline is
- 19:06Speaker 1: playing good. It's for Caroline. I can't wait. How about
- 19:12Speaker 1: Doug Marone today discussed uh. He was asked again about
- 19:16Speaker 1: his comment in London after the game about the play
- 19:19Speaker 1: calling the only running twice in the second half and
- 19:23Speaker 1: um didn't have the trust and maybe the line to
- 19:25Speaker 1: get that done. And he said, the trust has to
- 19:28Speaker 1: be earned. If you're running the line twice and you
- 19:30Speaker 1: get stuff, just's gonna be hard to call that kind
- 19:33Speaker 1: of a play again. And how do you how do
- 19:35Speaker 1: you really earn that trust? What he said? I agree,
- 19:39Speaker 1: I agree that I agree with to a certain extent.
- 19:43Speaker 1: I also understand that that's also trying to like probably
- 19:46Speaker 1: protect this, you know, in the same hacking a little
- 19:48Speaker 1: bit and maybe not protect him, but just trying to
- 19:50Speaker 1: divert the conversation. But they called them. If I'm not mistaken,
- 19:56Speaker 1: straight drop back path. It's a lot it's hard to
- 20:00Speaker 1: get it. Like earn anyone's trust, you don't get a
- 20:03Speaker 1: chance to so. I mean, if you're telling me that
- 20:09Speaker 1: because you didn't run the ball the ten times you
- 20:12Speaker 1: had an opportunity in the first half, very well and
- 20:17Speaker 1: that that's not true. Some of them were okay, but
- 20:20Speaker 1: that cancels the rest of the run the rest of
- 20:21Speaker 1: the day. Well, that's not the philosophy of run, run,
- 20:25Speaker 1: pound the ball. Physic will play good defense. Du If
- 20:27Speaker 1: you look at teams traditionally that have that mentality, they're
- 20:31Speaker 1: okay with getting one or two or three early, knowing
- 20:34Speaker 1: that if you keep on pounding them, it's gonna link
- 20:37Speaker 1: in the defense like body blows and that's when you
- 20:39Speaker 1: start getting bigger ones later. Tony, if you were an
- 20:43Speaker 1: offensive lineman on a team that through the no, you're right.
- 20:48Speaker 1: But if you were an offensive lineman on a team
- 20:49Speaker 1: that threw the ball one times in a row, how
- 20:52Speaker 1: would you take that? I would take it as you
- 20:57Speaker 1: don't think we can run the ball, and you you
- 21:00Speaker 1: know it is what it is. I mean, some at
- 21:03Speaker 1: some at some level, it's always on the offensive line.
- 21:05Speaker 1: You gotta earn the right to run the ball. I
- 21:08Speaker 1: guess my point is, I mean, how many runs they
- 21:10Speaker 1: have running back? I think it was if I remember correctly,
- 21:12Speaker 1: it's like eleven during that game. There's not a lot
- 21:17Speaker 1: of opportunities. And by the way, that was the number
- 21:20Speaker 1: one Russian defense in the NFL as far as yards
- 21:24Speaker 1: for a game. So I just think it's you know,
- 21:29Speaker 1: it's always like you know, I always loved the case
- 21:34Speaker 1: that you know, it's always you know, when we don't
- 21:37Speaker 1: run the ball's offensive line's fault. You know, you gotta
- 21:41Speaker 1: earn the right to trust us to do it. Okay,
- 21:43Speaker 1: wait a second, all right, if that's the case, gonna
- 21:45Speaker 1: get more than just ten or eleven opportunities the whole game,
- 21:48Speaker 1: because we surely talk about more than ten or eleven
- 21:50Speaker 1: times when when we're not when we're struggling, So you
- 21:54Speaker 1: can't have both plays. I guess at my point it's
- 21:58Speaker 1: gotta start somewhere though, right, Oh yeah, the offensive needs
- 22:02Speaker 1: to play better. I'm not I'm not just fine saying
- 22:04Speaker 1: those guys are playing great. I'm not saying that at all.
- 22:08Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's curious when you go thirty one
- 22:10Speaker 1: straight back. Here's the question, would you change the left
- 22:12Speaker 1: tackle would you put Flowers in? I think he's going
- 22:14Speaker 1: in this week based on what I've seen. No why
- 22:23Speaker 1: because I've seen both of them play left tackle. The
- 22:26Speaker 1: Flowers is unless he's gotten them better all of a
- 22:28Speaker 1: sudden when you put in New York, I only saw
- 22:31Speaker 1: a left tackle last year, but he could not play
- 22:33Speaker 1: left tackle last year. Hence, they spent a ton of
- 22:36Speaker 1: money on the left tackle and moved him the right tackle,
- 22:38Speaker 1: which he couldn't play, and they cut him. A team
- 22:41Speaker 1: that has two wins cut him for one one. So, yeah,
- 22:49Speaker 1: is the big Will you be better than Josh Walker?
- 22:53Speaker 1: Maybe it's not like guys you have to find out.
- 22:57Speaker 1: I don't think that is. But that's not your problem.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Well what is your problem? You're telling me everything's gonna
- 23:03Speaker 1: be all right if we get well, what is the problem.
- 23:06Speaker 1: What's the problem? Come on, what's the problem. It's not
- 23:10Speaker 1: just one guy. Ever. In the run game, you have
- 23:12Speaker 1: to give your fifth tight end when he balking tight
- 23:14Speaker 1: ends just walking the end, not physical at all. You
- 23:18Speaker 1: can't hold the point one on one. I agree that's
- 23:20Speaker 1: a problem, but but the line you might as well
- 23:23Speaker 1: try and get better at that spot. Walker looks like
- 23:25Speaker 1: a guard masquerading as a tackle. Does he not okay, Pete,
- 23:29Speaker 1: do you listen? I hate seeing the guy who was
- 23:32Speaker 1: beat the offensive line that we're really hard for Eric
- 23:35Speaker 1: Flower's but we need it to me. You watched the tape, Pete. Yeah,
- 23:39Speaker 1: it's it's a bad group right now. I'm not going
- 23:41Speaker 1: to deny it. And but hold on, you have Eric Flowers.
- 23:47Speaker 1: He's not good. He's not good. They spent a top
- 23:52Speaker 1: ten pick on him, and in two years they've spent thirty,
- 23:55Speaker 1: you know, fifteen million dollars a year on another guy
- 23:57Speaker 1: moving to the right tackle and then come up. But
- 24:00Speaker 1: the league where it's hard to find big people who
- 24:02Speaker 1: can play. So what is the solution up front? Well,
- 24:08Speaker 1: I mean, all you can do is play with the
- 24:09Speaker 1: guys you got, and they gotta get better, be more physical.
- 24:11Speaker 1: We gotta work together. Maybe, you know, look at what
- 24:14Speaker 1: you're doing to you know, I'm sure they used the
- 24:17Speaker 1: bye week to look at different concepts. Are they better
- 24:20Speaker 1: or maybe maybe they're better at gap team and maybe
- 24:21Speaker 1: go back to run a more power football. Maybe this
- 24:23Speaker 1: is what the place does a better better job and
- 24:26Speaker 1: get away from the inside outside zone stuff, or maybe
- 24:29Speaker 1: it's vice versa. I mean, you have a lot of
- 24:31Speaker 1: data and a lot of analytics, go back and run,
- 24:33Speaker 1: you know, look at that and make an adjustment and
- 24:35Speaker 1: find I would go find the one or two things
- 24:37Speaker 1: I did really will and focus on that. And what
- 24:39Speaker 1: do you think, Well, Tony, what do you think if
- 24:41Speaker 1: you're the haven't haven't I mean listen when you I mean,
- 24:45Speaker 1: how many times did they run the ball last two weeks?
- 24:48Speaker 1: It's hard to evaluate the run game. Come on, I mean,
- 24:51Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean I'm not. I
- 24:54Speaker 1: mean they have a whole analysts department of people in
- 24:56Speaker 1: there that break down the numbers, look at the numbers,
- 24:58Speaker 1: make your best judgment, go with That's what I would do.
- 25:03Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here is after you know, I'm
- 25:06Speaker 1: not gonna sit from the chief season. We'll tell you
- 25:07Speaker 1: what I think they do better, what they don't. But
- 25:10Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, you know, tight ends got
- 25:13Speaker 1: to play better. They can't block anybody, so it's hard.
- 25:19Speaker 1: James Shaughnessy was back in the practice field today though,
- 25:21Speaker 1: just a heads up, that's a that's an upgrade. Yeah,
- 25:26Speaker 1: anybody's an upgrade for the way those guys have been blocking.
- 25:29Speaker 1: It's not like o. Shaun's a huge blocker anyway, but
- 25:31Speaker 1: you know he's a guy on the depth. You made
- 25:36Speaker 1: decisions when you look at here's a question you went
- 25:40Speaker 1: into the season. You want to be a power running tea.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Here three tight ends are O'Shaughnessy, Safarian Jenkins, and now
- 25:46Speaker 1: it's Paul. Which one of those are running a blockers one?
- 25:56Speaker 1: So I mean this is a decision if you're gonna
- 25:59Speaker 1: be a running tea when you want to play a
- 26:01Speaker 1: twelve person No, you need more tight ends. You need
- 26:03Speaker 1: to bucking guys. That's why I go back, and we
- 26:05Speaker 1: asked the question earlier. Jeff brought it up by first
- 26:08Speaker 1: is why do you not resign Lewis as a blocking
- 26:12Speaker 1: tight end? Do you see the Packers last night had
- 26:16Speaker 1: four tight ends on the field at one point, and
- 26:18Speaker 1: he was four tight ends in the roster and he
- 26:21Speaker 1: was one of them. But I'm not trying. I'm not
- 26:25Speaker 1: trying to be overable. You asked what you can do now? Well,
- 26:27Speaker 1: you're limited now what you can do because you made
- 26:29Speaker 1: decisions and again and then those decisions are magnified by injuries.
- 26:34Speaker 1: I'm not putting it all on any one person. I'm
- 26:36Speaker 1: not blaming that anyone. I'm saying it is what it is.
- 26:39Speaker 1: And like if you put a line in there, you
- 26:41Speaker 1: know that's basically telling everybody's going to be a run
- 26:43Speaker 1: play almost Well, they tried to do that, shout. I
- 26:46Speaker 1: don't think shot is the right guy. Shot is not
- 26:47Speaker 1: long enough? Which guy should do it? If you're gonna
- 26:52Speaker 1: do it that you wanted a guy like that? Uh?
- 26:55Speaker 1: And Eric Cloward's will be a tight end long and
- 26:57Speaker 1: Josh Walker could be a tight end. You want people
- 27:00Speaker 1: length being that tight end because Shatley is not long,
- 27:03Speaker 1: not a long player, so you know the length you know,
- 27:05Speaker 1: hurts him a little bit. Mhm. Man, that's depressing this
- 27:11Speaker 1: offensive talk at the bye week, but it's not. I mean,
- 27:15Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's not things you can do, but
- 27:17Speaker 1: I mean this is where you I mean, it's easy
- 27:19Speaker 1: to coach when everything's going your way. This is where
- 27:21Speaker 1: you're digging into off season. Do some man, do some work,
- 27:24Speaker 1: do some projects. Look at what you do. Well, there's
- 27:26Speaker 1: there's stuff they've done. Well, do you build on it.
- 27:29Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care if it's one play. Let's
- 27:31Speaker 1: say it's one play you do well, all right, let's
- 27:33Speaker 1: build on that play. Let's figure different formations we can
- 27:36Speaker 1: run out and what we can do differently with that?
- 27:38Speaker 1: What why do we do that play? Well? All right?
- 27:40Speaker 1: What else can we incorporate with that? It's not all bad.
- 27:44Speaker 1: It just feels all bad right now, but it's not.
- 27:46Speaker 1: What's what's the best run play they've had in the
- 27:49Speaker 1: last two years? Is what? Well? It depends who's in
- 27:53Speaker 1: there with Leonard. They're better off. They're better power football team,
- 27:57Speaker 1: running power, you know, you know, getting a double team
- 27:59Speaker 1: on the front side pulling the card, right, do that
- 28:01Speaker 1: you need to tight end? Tight end? Right? They don't
- 28:06Speaker 1: have that? Yeah, like to play against Pittsburgh where they
- 28:09Speaker 1: kicked the guard out and right, it's hard to find
- 28:16Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. Impossible to find. In fact,
- 28:20Speaker 1: it's not they're not they're not available and they're not
- 28:22Speaker 1: coming to the Jaguars. Hey, Tony, I enjoyed Boston first off,
- 28:27Speaker 1: and we will uh, we'll catch you from the from
- 28:32Speaker 1: Hindesfield booth on Thursday night, Thursday Night football. The Steelers
- 28:37Speaker 1: who they have this week, Panthers. It's a good game.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Can you can you guys call can you call me back?
- 28:44Speaker 1: At the last five minutes the show so I can
- 28:47Speaker 1: listen to the Monday night the preview. Yeah, well, I'm
- 28:54Speaker 1: just mad. I'm just mad that we don't get um
- 28:56Speaker 1: your promos for Westwood One. Well next week coming back, Okay, alright,
- 29:02Speaker 1: cause I missen that. I'm jones for those. He still
- 29:04Speaker 1: owes me a couple of weeks worth for that, by
- 29:06Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, enjoy your trip, but we'll talk to
- 29:10Speaker 1: you all right, guys confusion this week. Next week all good.
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- 29:21Speaker 1: Taylor his memories of Vince Manawa who passed away just
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- 33:07Speaker 1: Homelod j P Shadrick Pete, Prisco's CBS Sports senior writer
- 33:11Speaker 1: down in South Florida thanks to Tony Boselli. He's on
- 33:13Speaker 1: the line earlier from Boston. Jeff Logaman coming up a
- 33:17Speaker 1: little bit later tonight, but now on the line with
- 33:19Speaker 1: US prod of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor, Good afternoon, Fred,
- 33:23Speaker 1: thanks for coming on JP. How's it going? Boston Pizza
- 33:27Speaker 1: on with you too? What's up Friday? How are you?
- 33:29Speaker 1: You know? I knew Pete was on here. Man, I
- 33:31Speaker 1: wasn't gonna knowlege Pete just to give him a hard time.
- 33:34Speaker 1: But uh, I told him. I still get a little
- 33:36Speaker 1: bit offended about that. Fragile Fred crap I didn't start that.
- 33:39Speaker 1: I talk. Yeah, we kick off after the bye week.
- 33:45Speaker 1: You know better than that. You know I never started
- 33:47Speaker 1: that stuff. I thought I'm guilty of one thing. I
- 33:51Speaker 1: did get a headline saying you would rush for two
- 33:53Speaker 1: thousand one time. Man, you did create that, and you
- 33:56Speaker 1: still go to bad for me on my all the
- 34:01Speaker 1: same stuff. So yesterday we're on our show, doing a
- 34:04Speaker 1: show here in South Florida, and and somebody mentioned Fred
- 34:07Speaker 1: Frank Gore, and I said, where he is? Everything? I said,
- 34:10Speaker 1: please do not tell me you think Frank Gore is
- 34:12Speaker 1: better than Fred Deller, Okay, because he's not. You know
- 34:16Speaker 1: what Frank has. Uh that's a different show. We can
- 34:19Speaker 1: get into that, you know, because you know I actually personally,
- 34:25Speaker 1: uh you know, I pushed Frank challenged Frank. We he
- 34:28Speaker 1: trained under me when I was down here visiting Bamrito,
- 34:32Speaker 1: Frank Mojo, a lot of other young guys, and uh,
- 34:35Speaker 1: you know, Frank's Fred. I want to be just like you.
- 34:37Speaker 1: You're the blueprint, you know. And uh, Frank has endured
- 34:41Speaker 1: a whole lot of his share as injuries, and he's
- 34:44Speaker 1: tough as can be. He's tough as hell, you know,
- 34:46Speaker 1: and he's showing it. I like to think I'm more explosive,
- 34:50Speaker 1: and I've done some great things. But I think Frank's
- 34:51Speaker 1: decided back to Yeah, he just has to be in
- 34:55Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but not before you. Sorry, We'll
- 34:57Speaker 1: see how goes. You know. We're gonna do a deep dive,
- 35:01Speaker 1: you know, and hopefully the voters are willing to do
- 35:02Speaker 1: a deep dive and figure out the teams I faced,
- 35:06Speaker 1: the defenses we faced. Not me, but we faced. Uh,
- 35:10Speaker 1: just just a whole lot of stuff, the stats inside
- 35:13Speaker 1: and out, you know, look at the guys that are
- 35:15Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame that we went up against,
- 35:18Speaker 1: all that different stuff that they'll sort it out. I
- 35:20Speaker 1: didn't worry. I might not get in next year, two
- 35:22Speaker 1: years from now. At some point, I may just even
- 35:26Speaker 1: be the first Jaguar who knows me or both overtake
- 35:30Speaker 1: or figure it out. By the way, for running back
- 35:32Speaker 1: to gett in the Hall of Fame, he's got to
- 35:34Speaker 1: have a pretty good offensive line. And earlier yesterday Vince
- 35:37Speaker 1: Manaway passed away thirty eight years of age. He was
- 35:40Speaker 1: a big part of your success here in Jacksonville, fred
- 35:43Speaker 1: what are your best memories events? Oh man, rest easy,
- 35:49Speaker 1: big fella. It hurt me so bad yesterday. JP to
- 35:52Speaker 1: hear that news. Uh talking to Mojo, h Uh, Greg Jones,
- 35:59Speaker 1: album pier In and coach Pola. We're all talking interday.
- 36:03Speaker 1: And it's just the spirit, Vince the spirit. You know
- 36:07Speaker 1: people some people around the building call them lazy. That's
- 36:11Speaker 1: the the meanor that you know. He probably carried sometimes,
- 36:15Speaker 1: but when he got on the field, he was so
- 36:17Speaker 1: far from lazy. He was a maler. You know. He
- 36:21Speaker 1: give his left arm, you know, if you needed it,
- 36:25Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, may have been. And Uh,
- 36:27Speaker 1: I would just say, brother, are you ready? Of course
- 36:29Speaker 1: I'm ready, brother, anything for Freddie, you know. And uh,
- 36:32Speaker 1: he would be the first to scrape guys off the pile.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Either come and pick me up from under the pile.
- 36:39Speaker 1: And I can tell you Vince crap and reach down
- 36:42Speaker 1: to get me off that ground. Every single play, every
- 36:47Speaker 1: time I got a tackle, he was in the vicinity,
- 36:50Speaker 1: he reached to pick me up. And just thinking about
- 36:52Speaker 1: that yesterday when I heard the news, that brought a
- 36:56Speaker 1: tear of mindes. Just that simple gesture right there is
- 37:00Speaker 1: kind of what caught me up in the whole entire
- 37:02Speaker 1: moment of yesterday. Um. But he's a great person, very likable,
- 37:07Speaker 1: never meant any harm to anybody. Definitely a real dog
- 37:11Speaker 1: and mean, you know, he wasn't even like a mean
- 37:14Speaker 1: guy on the field. He just did his work. He
- 37:16Speaker 1: wasn't gonna apologize to you, but he just did his work.
- 37:19Speaker 1: And he wasn't necessarily nice. He played within the rules
- 37:22Speaker 1: of the game, but he was he was hard man
- 37:26Speaker 1: and he was very He was one of the best
- 37:28Speaker 1: guards in Jaguars history. And in my opinion, yeah, people,
- 37:33Speaker 1: where does he rank, like when when he was playing
- 37:35Speaker 1: of other guys in the league, where where would you
- 37:37Speaker 1: kind of put man on on? He was he was
- 37:39Speaker 1: one of the top you know, when he was playing,
- 37:41Speaker 1: he was one of the top ten guards in the league.
- 37:43Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. And he's
- 37:45Speaker 1: clearly one of the best in Jaguars history. You know,
- 37:47Speaker 1: the guy was a maller in the run game. I
- 37:49Speaker 1: mean that's what he was. He was tough, he was
- 37:51Speaker 1: you know, Fred mentioned it, I love the brother. I
- 37:53Speaker 1: loved you. I saw your quote, I love brother. You
- 37:55Speaker 1: know that the Hawaiians they talked like that when you
- 37:59Speaker 1: know when they talked you guys. It was funny because
- 38:01Speaker 1: he always said that to you, always say brother, brother, right,
- 38:04Speaker 1: and that what it was. Yeah, Naoli Uh. Big Events
- 38:09Speaker 1: brought brother uh for ma to my father when he
- 38:13Speaker 1: was in Jacksonville. So you know the some mo and
- 38:17Speaker 1: that the culture even coach Polo that culture man and
- 38:21Speaker 1: just good people, genuine from the heart, never disrespectful. You know,
- 38:26Speaker 1: it's their culture. They believe in positiveness, energy and love
- 38:31Speaker 1: man and and so much passion and everything they're doing.
- 38:34Speaker 1: I can't forget Chad or Chad either. Oh so Chad
- 38:38Speaker 1: Uh he's another another some more and Broda that was
- 38:42Speaker 1: a good guy. So rest easy. Big Events man definitely
- 38:45Speaker 1: will be missed, no doubt. We need some positive energy
- 38:48Speaker 1: around this offense right now. Fred Um Leonard for Nette
- 38:52Speaker 1: was back in the practice field today. Seemed like a
- 38:54Speaker 1: good sign, didn't talk in the locker room today and
- 38:57Speaker 1: they don't have to do a report until later in
- 38:59Speaker 1: the week. But if not now, when right? Yeah, you
- 39:06Speaker 1: know I always go back to my second year JP
- 39:08Speaker 1: with that hamstring. It's tough. Hamstrings are tough there, unpredictable.
- 39:15Speaker 1: I think the best thing you can do for yourself.
- 39:17Speaker 1: I can't even answer win, I hope just now, but
- 39:20Speaker 1: the win, I don't know. Right, it's up to him.
- 39:24Speaker 1: He has to feel he has to be mentally in there,
- 39:26Speaker 1: because I do know one thing, you can't straddle in
- 39:29Speaker 1: this game, the NFL, that business out there with those
- 39:32Speaker 1: other grown men that are trying to take your head off.
- 39:35Speaker 1: You can't straddle. You can't be one ft in one
- 39:37Speaker 1: ft out. That just cause for injury yourself. So you
- 39:40Speaker 1: gotta be a dent in it. So when it when
- 39:43Speaker 1: his mindset is there, that's the win, and hopefully for
- 39:46Speaker 1: for the team. It's now, I don't know, hopefully it's gone,
- 39:53Speaker 1: and hopefully he can burst into all the things they
- 39:55Speaker 1: need to do to get get the job done. When
- 39:58Speaker 1: you hurt your hamstring and that you're sucking your what
- 40:00Speaker 1: game was that? When you heard it? You know, I
- 40:03Speaker 1: believe I got hurt in the Carolina game. We were
- 40:06Speaker 1: in Carolina, if I'm not mistaking, and yeah, I just
- 40:11Speaker 1: felt a little tweak right behind the knee, right there
- 40:14Speaker 1: behind the knee, and uh, I don't know, it just
- 40:17Speaker 1: felt it felt like it was just something simple like
- 40:22Speaker 1: no big, you know, nothing big at all. But that
- 40:25Speaker 1: was my very first hamstring injury ever in my entire life.
- 40:29Speaker 1: And it happened. Then, you know, I thought I can
- 40:32Speaker 1: go through the next week of practice that was that
- 40:35Speaker 1: didn't go well, missing days, missing games, and in and
- 40:39Speaker 1: out of the lineup, and it was just all bad.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Definitely the most frustrating, uh time in my life during
- 40:45Speaker 1: my career because I was in and out of the lineup.
- 40:48Speaker 1: It's easier, Pete, I think, just to have an injury
- 40:52Speaker 1: so you're out four to six weeks, you know, mc
- 40:55Speaker 1: l or PCL or scope or whatever the those type
- 41:00Speaker 1: things ligament damage. But we have those soft tissue injuries, growings, hamstrings, biceps,
- 41:07Speaker 1: that sort of stuff you just never know, you never know,
- 41:11Speaker 1: and is it is it's almost unfair to the player.
- 41:15Speaker 1: Right that we were out there, people are saying, oh,
- 41:19Speaker 1: why isn't he back, Why can't he get back? And
- 41:21Speaker 1: you heard that same stuff. It's almost unfair to you guys,
- 41:24Speaker 1: because we don't know what your body is going through,
- 41:26Speaker 1: you know what it's it's and once, yeah, it's it
- 41:30Speaker 1: is unfair. Let me just say that, because you don't
- 41:32Speaker 1: know the person and what they're going through mentally, what
- 41:35Speaker 1: their focus is, and a lot of times that will
- 41:38Speaker 1: usually lose to this guy isself. Right, Yeah, you just
- 41:42Speaker 1: don't know. But I think the thing that a player
- 41:46Speaker 1: can have isn't it And his defense is if he's
- 41:49Speaker 1: on time to his training sessions or his rehab sessions,
- 41:54Speaker 1: if the training stamp staff, if they think he's doing
- 41:59Speaker 1: everything in his power that he can to get back,
- 42:02Speaker 1: if he's there, you know, before the hens, the roosters,
- 42:06Speaker 1: what the roosters do they right? Yeah, okay, so before
- 42:12Speaker 1: you know, early in the morning is what I'm trying
- 42:13Speaker 1: to say. I was in the building six thirty, you know,
- 42:16Speaker 1: seven o'clock before the eight o'clock meeting, trying to get
- 42:19Speaker 1: myself together. So it all depends on the players. Uh,
- 42:22Speaker 1: you know, they're disciplined in there their rehab and their
- 42:25Speaker 1: approach and trying to get back, you know, So that
- 42:28Speaker 1: goes a long way. So if a guy isn't in it,
- 42:32Speaker 1: then you can kind of say, well, this guy, he's
- 42:34Speaker 1: just not the right material. He's not what we thought
- 42:38Speaker 1: he was. I gotta call other day about dlvin cooking
- 42:41Speaker 1: in Minnesota. He has been trying to force the coaches
- 42:45Speaker 1: to put him out there. They're telling him, young man,
- 42:48Speaker 1: sit down. But he's a guy who's doing everything and
- 42:50Speaker 1: his will to get out there. You know, he wanted
- 42:53Speaker 1: to be out there this week and they had to
- 42:55Speaker 1: make a decision to limit him. But that's the type
- 42:59Speaker 1: of attitude you need, a guy who's trying to break
- 43:01Speaker 1: his tail to get out there, not the opposite. And
- 43:05Speaker 1: you know what you're saying right there. That leads me
- 43:08Speaker 1: to where I've I've some of the things I've heard
- 43:10Speaker 1: that maybe for Net isn't that guy, which is, you
- 43:14Speaker 1: only have so many earning years in your body, Fred,
- 43:16Speaker 1: You know that you only have so many games to
- 43:18Speaker 1: get out there and play the game. And if you
- 43:20Speaker 1: love the game, I'm with you, do everything in your power.
- 43:24Speaker 1: If you've got to be there at six o'clock, get
- 43:25Speaker 1: there at six o'clock. Does it bother you? As a
- 43:28Speaker 1: former player and everything to see him on the sidelines
- 43:30Speaker 1: at l s U when you're supposed to be doing
- 43:32Speaker 1: going through rehabbing stuff. Does that bother you? You know?
- 43:35Speaker 1: It does? I mean we lived that We I've lived
- 43:38Speaker 1: that life, you know, I've it was it was a Saturday.
- 43:42Speaker 1: You know, he has a personal life. It doesn't mean
- 43:45Speaker 1: he didn't do his rehab. I mean he's only at
- 43:48Speaker 1: the game. What is that four or five hour window?
- 43:50Speaker 1: Five hour window at max? I mean you can fly
- 43:53Speaker 1: there and go there. You can fly there and get
- 43:55Speaker 1: there at nighttime. I mean, I mean, I don't know
- 43:57Speaker 1: if he was in Jacksonville's I don't know how they're week,
- 44:00Speaker 1: their bye week schedule was and all of that. If
- 44:03Speaker 1: he if that was part of their off time usually
- 44:06Speaker 1: in a bye week, it is, you know what I mean.
- 44:08Speaker 1: So he could have been home already. Who knows. I don't.
- 44:12Speaker 1: I don't know where he was. But you know, until
- 44:14Speaker 1: his defense, I can say, I can say it doesn't
- 44:17Speaker 1: bother me temply because I mean, your personal time is
- 44:22Speaker 1: your personal time. We don't know what he's done. We
- 44:25Speaker 1: didn't see his entire twenty four hours, you know what
- 44:27Speaker 1: I mean, So he could have done rehab, went to
- 44:30Speaker 1: the game, went back and done rehab, or he couldn't
- 44:32Speaker 1: have done it. I mean, I don't know, right, so
- 44:35Speaker 1: I can't make a call or base judgment on seeing
- 44:38Speaker 1: the matter game. UH, but I do think that these
- 44:42Speaker 1: guys should be UH should understand that their earning potential
- 44:47Speaker 1: is great, but the window is small. So you want
- 44:50Speaker 1: to try and maximize such you know, UH as as
- 44:53Speaker 1: best as you can, and UH do everything and your
- 44:57Speaker 1: power that you can to make it happen. Okay, Fred,
- 45:01Speaker 1: we appreciate your time today. Thanks for the memories on Vince.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Thanks for the insight to the for net in the
- 45:05Speaker 1: running situation. It's always good to talk to you, budd,
- 45:08Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you later this week. Get him
- 45:10Speaker 1: in the hall, Get him in the hall. Hey, that's
- 45:12Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. I'll talk to you later.
- 45:14Speaker 1: J P. Pete. Always a pleasure. We catch up on
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- 45:28Speaker 1: we'll go play golf alright, guy. That foresome Pete Prisco,
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- 49:20Speaker 1: Pete Prisco down in South Florida. Tony Basselli with us earlier,
- 49:23Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with us just moments ago. Uh, Pete, let's
- 49:27Speaker 1: go around the a f C South, Shall we do that?
- 49:31Speaker 1: It is an abbreviated version because there's only been one
- 49:33Speaker 1: a f C South team to play this week. That's
- 49:37Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, who yesterday knocked off the Denver Broncos.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Nineteen seventeen was the final score. Shawn Watson had a
- 49:44Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns. Hopkins had ten catches a hundred five
- 49:47Speaker 1: yards and one of those scores they The Texans had
- 49:51Speaker 1: a go ahead field goal early in the fourth quarter
- 49:53Speaker 1: that was kind of boring. After that, the Broncos missed
- 49:56Speaker 1: a field goal with three seconds to play from fifty
- 49:59Speaker 1: one yards. It would have won it. They missed it
- 50:02Speaker 1: way off to the right, and uh were the Texans
- 50:05Speaker 1: are just hot enough right now to win sixth straight.
- 50:08Speaker 1: Well not only that though, um, yeah, the Texans are
- 50:12Speaker 1: playing better football, particularly on the offensive line, which has
- 50:15Speaker 1: become an issue for them. But here's the thing. Late
- 50:18Speaker 1: in that game, the Broncos had a chance jp to
- 50:21Speaker 1: get closer to get a more makeable field goal, and
- 50:24Speaker 1: they didn't do it. They you know, ran the ball
- 50:28Speaker 1: inside on second down, got minus one and then took
- 50:31Speaker 1: a knee and then kicked the field goal and he
- 50:32Speaker 1: missed it. It was it was a bad decision by
- 50:35Speaker 1: the head coach to make that. It's a fifty one
- 50:38Speaker 1: yard or I get it, it's tough from one, but
- 50:41Speaker 1: it's in Denver, right, and this guy just got paid right, Yeah,
- 50:44Speaker 1: you gotta make the kick, but why not make it
- 50:46Speaker 1: easier on him? Though? Am I wrong? I mean he
- 50:48Speaker 1: pushed it way off to the right, though, I agree,
- 50:51Speaker 1: But well, if he got ten more yards he would
- 50:53Speaker 1: have well. But at the end, at the end of
- 50:56Speaker 1: the half, they tried a sixty two yard field goal
- 50:58Speaker 1: down thirteen ten um and then left the ball there.
- 51:03Speaker 1: Always some time left to the clock in the Texans
- 51:05Speaker 1: went and got a field goal. On the other end, coaching,
- 51:09Speaker 1: coaching decisions an issue in Denver. It sounds like the
- 51:13Speaker 1: Titans play tonight. We'll get to Monday night, the full
- 51:15Speaker 1: preview coming up. But both of these teams, Titans, Cowboys
- 51:19Speaker 1: need this ball game tonight, both teams at three and
- 51:22Speaker 1: four p Yeah. I think this is an enormous game
- 51:24Speaker 1: for for both of these teams and both of these
- 51:27Speaker 1: quarterbacks JP. I mean you talk about you know, people
- 51:30Speaker 1: want to kill mari I mean Winston and whatever. But
- 51:33Speaker 1: Mariota hasn't played very well at all, and he's got
- 51:36Speaker 1: to pick it up. And on the other side of
- 51:37Speaker 1: the ball, you know, Prescott has been averaged this year
- 51:40Speaker 1: at best, but now he has a new toy and
- 51:42Speaker 1: Marie Cooper to be interesting to see how they use them.
- 51:44Speaker 1: But big game for both these teams. You know, the
- 51:46Speaker 1: loser goes to three and five. Uh, they have big problems.
- 51:50Speaker 1: So it should be a hard, tough, physical game, probably
- 51:52Speaker 1: low scoring UH, and a lot of a lot of running.
- 51:56Speaker 1: But when you look at um, you know, Jerry Jones JP,
- 51:59Speaker 1: he's gonna probably run run that, uh, run that fun
- 52:03Speaker 1: and try and get the ball to Cooper to make
- 52:04Speaker 1: himself look at But we'll talk more about that when
- 52:06Speaker 1: we prove your Monday Night. But I think this is
- 52:08Speaker 1: one of those Titans are in trouble here, and like
- 52:11Speaker 1: the Jaguars, they have major issues. Yeah, if the Titans fall,
- 52:13Speaker 1: there's three and five and guess what, that's three three
- 52:16Speaker 1: and five teams in the division all of a sudden
- 52:18Speaker 1: if that happens. And and the Texans who looked like
- 52:21Speaker 1: they were dead. Um, you know, remember Frank Wright gave
- 52:24Speaker 1: him the game and it was gonna go to the
- 52:26Speaker 1: tie game of the game, and they gave him life.
- 52:29Speaker 1: And now look at them, there's six and three. They
- 52:30Speaker 1: can't lose all of a sudden, um, And they're hot.
- 52:34Speaker 1: Everybody else is not. And of course the big matchup
- 52:36Speaker 1: next week, the Jags and the Colts coming up Sunday
- 52:39Speaker 1: at the bottom of the division. Yeah, I mean that's
- 52:42Speaker 1: a big win. It's a big game for both those teams.
- 52:44Speaker 1: I mean, the team that's win stays alive. The team
- 52:46Speaker 1: that loses is probably done. And the Colts. You know,
- 52:49Speaker 1: the interesting thing about Colts, JP, they're playing much better
- 52:52Speaker 1: on the offensive line. They haven't given up a sack
- 52:54Speaker 1: in fifteen quarters. How about that? Really, that's incredible because
- 52:57Speaker 1: that's in the storyline for three years on these That's
- 53:00Speaker 1: why they got Luck hurt, right, they had help, not
- 53:02Speaker 1: not not giving up a sack of fifteen quarters is incredible.
- 53:06Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a tough challenge for Jacksonville's defense.
- 53:09Speaker 1: I mean again, Tony keeps talking about defense playing better
- 53:11Speaker 1: and getting you know, getting it going and be an elite. Well,
- 53:14Speaker 1: we'll see, because they're playing Andrew Luck in an offensive line,
- 53:16Speaker 1: it's much better. Who have they played the lad Let's see,
- 53:19Speaker 1: they played the Raiders. Okay, you can't rush the past, right,
- 53:22Speaker 1: they let the best one in football maybe go, second
- 53:24Speaker 1: best one in football go? The Bills are the Bills
- 53:27Speaker 1: they beat? Well, they got some you know, Jerry use
- 53:29Speaker 1: can rush the pastor, but they did beat them. And
- 53:31Speaker 1: who is the New York Jets? New York Jets are
- 53:33Speaker 1: pretty good now. They don't rush the pastor that well though,
- 53:36Speaker 1: either from the outside. But but yeah, I mean, for
- 53:39Speaker 1: the fact, I don't care who the Cults are playing,
- 53:41Speaker 1: the fact that their offensive line hasn't given up a
- 53:43Speaker 1: sack in fifteen quarters is pretty incredible. Yeah, you're right,
- 53:46Speaker 1: No matter who it is. That's right, nfl um, especially
- 53:50Speaker 1: with that group the way it's going. You know, what's
- 53:52Speaker 1: your early feel on Jack's cults this week? Something tells
- 53:57Speaker 1: me jackson was gonna win the game. But I don't
- 53:58Speaker 1: know how though. I think they're gonna pound them, just
- 54:02Speaker 1: pound the rock, yea, yea, and they'll play good defense.
- 54:05Speaker 1: I think the defense is gonna take it ill to say,
- 54:08Speaker 1: but I don't you know the lines? What is the line?
- 54:10Speaker 1: The early line is Indie minus three. So they think
- 54:14Speaker 1: they're even teams then because they give them three points
- 54:16Speaker 1: the field ability. Hey, this Colts team is getting better
- 54:20Speaker 1: and luck playing good ball. But here's the other thing.
- 54:22Speaker 1: Go three tight ends, you can catch touchdowns. But here's
- 54:25Speaker 1: the other thing. Jp they're getting better, but they're not
- 54:28Speaker 1: might not be getting better for this year, but they're
- 54:31Speaker 1: gonna be better, really good next year. That's not you know. Look,
- 54:35Speaker 1: their quarterback issue is solved, done finished over. Jacksonville is not,
- 54:42Speaker 1: you know, and Tennessee is not, and the Texans are.
- 54:47Speaker 1: So the two teams that have the quarterback issue solved
- 54:49Speaker 1: are the ones that have the advantage in division. So
- 54:52Speaker 1: when was was this last year? Remember we're thinking, oh,
- 54:55Speaker 1: the situation for the Jaguars quarterback, it was Watson was
- 54:59Speaker 1: banged up, Andrew Luck hasn't played in two years, and
- 55:02Speaker 1: Mariota was really bad. Mariota stinks right Well, that's that's changed.
- 55:08Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is struggling, Andrew Luck is carrying a team again,
- 55:12Speaker 1: although he's getting more help around them now. Watson has
- 55:15Speaker 1: a good team around him. He wasn't great yesterday, but
- 55:17Speaker 1: he has a good team. He has a good defense anyways,
- 55:19Speaker 1: and he's got some hopkins who can make plays. And
- 55:22Speaker 1: then you got Jacksonville whose offense is a disaster. There's
- 55:26Speaker 1: no other way to label the offense. It's a disaster.
- 55:28Speaker 1: And they've had a ton of injuries. They haven't scored
- 55:30Speaker 1: a first half touchdown in a month. But think about it,
- 55:32Speaker 1: j P. On the surface, they've had a ton of injuries,
- 55:36Speaker 1: but they have a quarterback who can't play above the injuries.
- 55:41Speaker 1: If those injuries happen in Green Bay or or Dandy
- 55:44Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, because he's had a bunch
- 55:46Speaker 1: of them too, they that he can rise above that.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Mortals can't. He needs everything around him to go perfectly royal,
- 55:52Speaker 1: and it's just not happening. Alright, Pete, thirty seconds. Give
- 55:55Speaker 1: me your meaningless power rankings in the division, please, sir.
- 55:59Speaker 1: One Texans to Cults, three Titans for Jackonville. All right,
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- 59:36Speaker 1: d I C. If you don't run the ball, well,
- 59:53Speaker 1: you don't finish your blocks, it's start of one and
- 59:55Speaker 1: you lose yardage. It's very difficult to call play again, okay,
- 59:58Speaker 1: because if I call the same play and we got
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: or ass kick, all right, how do I what do
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: I do? I don't feel good about it? Okay, schematically
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: it feels good all right, but you don't win. So
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: what do you do? You can run another play, another
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: run play okay, but then you're gonna say, hey, listen,
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: you ran to run playing the wrong. Got your ass kick?
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Why does you throw it? I mean, it's it's that
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: thing that goes back to it. Trust is earned, it's
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: not given. I'm gonna do everything I can to get
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: the place a trust that what I'm doing is right.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, they understand that
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: when they do things well, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: there's a trust and you can call it play again,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: head coach Doug Marone. Today second hour of Jaguars Happy
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Hour Underway, presented by Jet Home Loans J P. Shadrick.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: We had Tony Boselli on the line earlier, Pete Prisco's
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: down in South Florida. Fred Taylor was in South Florida
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: on the line with us earlier. Pride of the Jaguars
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: running back and Jaguars analysts and co host of Jaguars
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: All Access Television joins us in the studio. Jeff lockhaman henyway,
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: what's that? What's happened? By the way, We're gonna have
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Carlos Hide on tonight Jaguars All like and I gotta
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: say good evening, Pete. What's up, Jeff? But by the way,
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: I got a lot of TELPISLI I got a lot
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: of little tweets last week saying how much nicer it
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: was me and you on here instead of him. Oh yeah,
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: well we've got a lot more accomplished. We don't argue
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: as much as you you are. Do you argue with
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: him on on Thursday when you're on with him? Maybe
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: sometimes we do, But for the most part, he doesn't
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: want to argue with me. Now he usually doesn't want to.
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: I just somehow light the fire, you know how that goes.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: It's easy, doesn't take much at all with him. What
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: was the one time, the last the last argument we had,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: Pete Tony was trying to tell me about an RPO,
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: was trying to like explain to me what the definition
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: of r p O was or is. And I can't
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: remember exactly how it went, but somehow or another, it's like,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: that's not an rp O. That's it's got that's a pass.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, run pass option. Let's see what the
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: definition of RPO is. Had to explain that to him,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: and it's like elementary stuff. Sometimes he gets and he
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: gets so flushed it when he's wrong. That's the best
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: part of it. Oh and and here's the other thing.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: He actually Pete. A couple of years ago, I made
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: a comment that as a team and you can comment
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: on this, And I heard this this morning because he
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: was on with some other jokers here in town. You know,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: you know him, Yeah, I know him. And the comment
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: was brought up to him about possibly drafting a quarterback
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: every year, and Joe is my witness. Didn't me, Okay,
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: didn't I say that a couple of years ago? And
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: I got I got ripped both. How can you say
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: that you draft a quarterback every year? And then so
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: they say to him this morning, you know what he says,
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: I have to agree with that. Yeah, I said that.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: I've been I'm with you, Jeff, I said that all
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: along I would draft one a year. He got to,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: you always do. You might get lucky, especially when you
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: don't have one. You might find a superstar Hall of
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: Famer in the sixth round, like some certain franchise did
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: in New England. Right. That's it's amazing watching him and uh,
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: watching that game last night, I tried to stay awake
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: for the whole thing. It didn't happen, but from what
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: I did see staying awake was a tremendous football game
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: and it's very clear that those two are simply two
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. But I think
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: it also further illustrates the greatness of Bill Belichick as
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: a coach. He's unbelievable. That was that was the difference
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: in the game with his Yes, And here's the thing, Pete,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: isn't it always the difference for the most part a
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: great quarterback and you don't have one then, but everything
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: else is pretty even. There's there's other great quarterbacks in
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: the league. But when you when you when you if
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: you were to look at the Patriots roster, Pete and
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: be honest, to look at them and say, okay, let's
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: take the quarterback out of the equation. Let's look at
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: their roster and compare apples to apples compared to the
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: Jaguars roster, compared to any other team roster. And yes,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: the quarterback separates that roster, there's no question. But the
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: coaching also separates that roster because he allows those players
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: to do things that they do best. They all have
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: a role, and I think that's the most impressive thing
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: of all at all of all, and they don't make mistakes,
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: and that's coaching. The least penalized team in football. But
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: but he also takes for example, James White on another
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: team would be a third down back who come in
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: and do they but the way they use their players,
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: He's great at taking what they do and making it.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: You know, Okay, I'll give you another example Patterson. I mean,
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: I look at Patterson. One day I was at Viking example,
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: you guys will love this story. I'm at Vikings practice
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: and training camp and I'm standing underneath talking to Mike
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: Zimmer and Patterson is returning kicks and he's jogging right,
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: He's going through the motions. And I looked at Zimer,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: I go, how do you put up with that garbage?
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: And he goes, ah, some days he's good, some days
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: he's man, you know, and everything well, you know what happens.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: They get rid of him obviously, then he ends up
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: in New England. What do they do? They washed the
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: stink off of them, right, the stink of his career
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: has gone, and now he's a contributor, not a major contributor,
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: but they found a way to make him a contributor.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: That's what Belichick does because he finds what players do best,
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: and then he capitalizes and utilizes that correct. Patterson is
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: for the most part a bust as a wide receiver.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: I mean for the most part correct. Okay, So if
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: he can't catch and he can't run routes, but he's dynamic,
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: so let's hand him the ball instead of making him
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: try to catch the ball and use him as a
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: return man and as use them as a returnment. And
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: it's worked in and it's just, uh, you know, the
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: experience that we had Pete up there watching them and
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: how they go about their business and training camp was
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: an eye opener for me two preseasons ago. It was
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Yeah, it was. It was. It was an
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: absolute eye opener for me, and to see how their
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: practice went, but also to see the hardest part, Peter,
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: and you know this, you've watched a lot of NFL practices.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: When you when you see how Special Teams operates, that's
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: always an indicator of me of saying, if the Special
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: Teams is running mistake free and very organized, which the
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: Jaguars do a pretty good job with Jodi Camills, but
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: this what what the Patriots do as a whole different
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: level with I think his name is Joe Judge as
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: a Special Teams coordinator. But we all knew why that
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: that happens is because that's the demands of Bill Belichick
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: as a coach. Because the Jaguars coaches would be out
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: on the field's first year with Joe D. Camillis as
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: a special teams coordinator that year, but when the Patriots
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: called for the second punt return team, they weren't looking
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: for a guy or two. When they called for the
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: fourth team punt return, the fourth team punt return was
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: out there. It was just amazing to me how everybody
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: was so clean on assignments and where they had to be,
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: what they had to do, what the depth chart was.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: The coaches were on the field going, hey, where's John,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: Hey Joe, let's go. It's third punt return. They didn't
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: have that happen because they do that up there. They're gone, right, yeah,
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: I mean everybody, it's the expectation and and then and
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: then it filters down into the guys that are good
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: on the team, and that filters down to everybody follows
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: those guys. Brady works as hard as anybody, so it
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: filters down. Look, Tony, I mean, Jeff, if you read
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: the don we'll have a real problem. Okay, Jeff VASSELLI
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: will get to know Jeff when you will start name calling.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: You know, hey, when you is that a name? I'm
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: calling your names? If I call you Missilli, calling you easy?
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: Oh God, don't go there. He's called the Oshana because
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: peace jealous of you know, that thing's gone. That was
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: a long time ago, Hey, Jeff. But when you read
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: books about Belichick, and I've read everyone, I love reading
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: about the guy. I'm fascinated by the detail. You go
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: into it and you go, Okay, that's why he is
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: this way. That's why he's that way. You can just
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: read in to see where it comes from. You know,
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: back in the day in New York, they used to
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: call him Doom because he was the gloom and Doom
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: and that he's still kind of that way, right, But
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: they all marveled at the detail and and what he
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: knew from the time he walked into that building as
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: a young guy. It's incredible and you see it on
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: the field. I think the greatest thing that he has
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: that helps him with that, I guess making sure that
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: the message filters throughout the team. You have a guy
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: like Tom Brady who is totally on board with everything
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick says publicly. Now privately maybe things are different,
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: But publicly Brady always says the right things about team,
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: first team, first team, first team, first And I think
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: when you have a great player who plays that position,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: who echoes what the head coach says, I mean, it's
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: it's amazing how far that that can go. When you
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: have great leadership from the man at the top of
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: the organization, which is bella check even though the owner
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: is over top of him, that on the football side
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: of things, and then you have your great player that
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: echoes and embraces everything that he says. Makes a difference. Yeah,
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: you follow. They follow the guy who's great. Whatever he
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: does is the way they'll follow. And it makes sense.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: And look, Tom Brady doesn't love Bill Belichick, make no
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: mistake about it. And you mentioned it, Jeff, Privately, he
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: would probably tell you he's tired of being berated all
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: the time and beat down all the time. But he
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: respects them. And that's all you need from your quarterback
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: and your coaches is respect. And I think it's mutual.
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: They know it. Hey logs, JP, Hey fix the offense please. Yeah,
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: good luck with that. I thought you guys already did
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: that in the first hour we were waiting for you
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: second hour. Uh, fix the offense. Where do you start? Well,
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: I mean, look, how do you jump started? You know
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: what is what is the offense done well so far
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: this year? In other games? You look at the games
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: that they played extremely well, which is the Jets game
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: and the Patriots game, and in those games, for quarterback
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: is playing at a very high efficient level. So that
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: has to start with him, I believe, because if your
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: quarterback is not performing at a functional level, I believe
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: that the running game has no chance to succeed because
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: then defense I've always said, defenses can always stop the
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: run if they put enough resources to stop in the run,
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: but they can't. What they can't do is apply resources
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: to stop both things. And so your quarterback has to
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: be able to play well. And if you can run
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: the ball when those resources are fortified defensively to stop
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: the running game, that makes it great. So I mean,
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: it's it's not simple, but it is. You've got to
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: be able to run the football effectively, and then the
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: quarterback has to be able to perform efficiently and effectively
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: in the ball game. And I don't say, and I've
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: said this before, that you have to Defenses have to
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: fear or respect your passing game. I don't say fear,
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: but they've got to respect it. And I got the
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: impression right now that the Jaguars offense is doesn't scare anybody.
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: I don't think teams respect it, and I think they're
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: doing a very good job to stop and run. The
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: Jaguars are seeing a lot of man They're seeing a
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: lot of single high coverage. They're seeing a lot of
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: eight men in the box or seven men in the box,
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: depending on if you're in regular personnel or three wide
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: receiver personnel. So it's simple. I mean, the Jaguars need
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: to run the ball better and they need to have
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: better play in their passing game. Now, how they get
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: that in those two areas that's the hard part. But
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: it's not easy in the National Football League. It's not
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: easy to run. The offensive line needs to play better.
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that kind of go
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: into making that side of the ball better. And this week,
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: if there was ever a get well week, I would
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: think that it's this against the Indianapolis Colts. I mean,
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: they are they're not a very talented group. They play hard.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: Give him. I give him a lot of respect because
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: I think Frank Wright because is doing a good job
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: as a head coach. There. They've got a very good quarterback.
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: But defensively, Pete when Jabal shared is arguably your best player,
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: that's not saying a whole lot about their talent level
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: on defense. Well that letterd kid, the rookie is pretty
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: good player too. Darius Leonard. Yeah, he's a good player.
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: He's all right. I mean, come on, let's carried away.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: I mean he's a linebackerth and he's he's still a rookie,
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: a big deal. No, No, they're not good. They're not
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: good on defense. But you're right. If there's ever a
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: week to get the offense cranked up, this is it.
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: Point me a play out that this rookie linebacker Darius Leonard,
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: who is a second old pick out of South Carolina State. Okay,
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: name me a play that he's changed the game. He
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: asked four sacks, Name me a play that's changed the game.
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: There's I'm sure there's some. That's my point. He's got
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: three force fumbles. Name name you a play that's changed
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: the game going through every game. I mean that's that's
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: that's my point. Like he's a good I'm sure he's
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: a good football player, but I mean, typically the guys
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: that change the game, our sack calls, fumble interception type guys,
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: which he's got some of those, but has he changed
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: in the game. He's a good player, don't get me wrong.
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: Good player is it in a moment, maybe the end
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: of game, you know, or something like that, that kind
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: of impact. I watched the last two games, and fifty
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: three shows up as a good player, and but on film, Pete,
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: he doesn't show up as a great player. Great players
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: show up game in and game out, and if they
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: don't show up every game, they at least show up
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: every other game. But he has a chance to be
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: a really, really good player, because I mean he's only
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: eight games into a seat into his career. But but
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: up front, Marcus Hunt average Al Woods, average guy. Uh
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: Komochi Terrey, who's a rookie second round pick out Rutgers. Yeah,
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be good at some point
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: in the future. And Grober Stewart pretty good football player,
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: solid guy, defensive tackle. But I mean, for the most part,
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: they're kind of average guys. And here's the thing. Name
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: me one defensive back you know, besides Malik Hooker that
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: catches your attention. Yeah, it's not a good group of
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: the back end for sure. The corners are really really suspect, no,
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Guys, Let's come back. Well, you know,
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: logs Is already called him to get well game for
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: the jag You could be really is he said it
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: could be. Let's come back. We'll see what the defense
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: will look like without Dante Fowler Jr. He is now
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- 1:18:46Speaker 1: I thought that was a contest where you got the
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: coach in, Yeah, Pete right? Who was that? Who was
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: the coach couple of weeks ago that called out and said, hey,
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: if you if you think it's that easy coming down
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: to the sideline coach Peter Peterson, Pete, Pete would have
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: his hand up, going sure, come on and I'll thank
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: your salary for the week. Yeah. Yeah, the head coaches
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: are doing pretty well now, Pete, you're darn right there are.
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: Look at John Gruden getting ten million dollars a year
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: just in this, I mean, just ripping that team up, man,
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: and he's terrible. He's got five first round picks though
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: in the next two years. Yeah, I know, Pete. I
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: mean I'm watching I'm watching the Raiders play more than that,
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: watching the Raiders play and versus the Colts today, and
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: I'm watching what they're doing on defense, and I'm going,
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: what are trying to figure out what they're doing? I
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: mean some of the some of the things that they're
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: doing just it is terrible, terrible. Yeah, Like what they
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: ran They ran a man coverage and this is something
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: that I've shown pat capital. They ran man a man
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: and they had single high safety and they're only Russian three.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: But then they had too linebackers. So you're telling me
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: that Andrew luck is that great of a threat to
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: run and on a third down you're gonna rush three,
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: have two linebackers just spine there's like third and four,
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: so they're never never land. Then the linebackers they're doing
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: nothing right. That's what I mean. I always call that.
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: It's like on Hail Mary's. You see guys that the
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: linebackers in the middle of field. What are they doing
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen yards deep? I mean, do something that's going
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: take a chance? Yeah, one the other we just stand
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: there and go, okaye, not to It's not Michael back,
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: for goodness say exactly I was. I was just there
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: going you gotta be kidding me. Anyway, they're not very good.
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: And offensively they have uh quarterback that is just so
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: hot and cold and he makes some throws that you go,
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: what what was that? Isn't Gruden system a little outdated
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: to when you watch it? I mean like they run
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: out of those ISO routes and there's no bunches and
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: a lot of bunches and picks and rubs. And I'm
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: not an offensive expert. And here here's the thing about
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: whether a scheme can be outdated or not. Does it
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: work or does it not. I mean, look, there's some
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: there's some schemes. Look, the Jaguars went back and pulled
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: the old scheme out of the playbooks from years ago
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: last year offensively and took it to the n f
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: C title game. I mean, so maybe they need to
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: go get those schemes back out again. Yeah, she saould
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: be nice. And then we got to get the execution
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: back out. That's that's the key, Jeff. Can they fix
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: the offense? You know, is it fixable? I mean, the
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: personnel is what it is, right, Yes, it's fixable. How
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: you've got to get the offensive line playing at a
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: better level than what it's been doing. You know, last
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: year you had the offensive line I thought, playing at
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: a pretty good level or early in the season, and
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: the running game will go pretty well. And then as
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: the running game started to falter later in the season,
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: the play the quarterback started to get better. So offensively,
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: get the offensive line play better and more consistent than
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: everything else. Has an opportunity to succeed when the offensive
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: line plays better. And I know I heard you guys
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: talking earlier that you brought up if I believe it was,
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: you know, do you think about replacing the left tackle
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: Josh Walker and putting Flowers in that's not necessarily the answer.
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: I think you gotta worry and make sure that you
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: get everybody else playing better at run blocking, because that's
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: the one thing that Josh Walker can do, and he's
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: given you great effort and energy and his run blocking.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: He'll struggle when he has to pass block and he
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: has to be in space against a great player. Well,
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: a great player in space is really not gonna happen
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: this week. So I don't think this is the week
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: to do that with Eric Flowers. This is the week
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: to get back to getting everybody else to play better
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: and run blocking better. So, but you know, the amazing
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: thing is Peters. If you look at at the numbers,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: the only Jaguar that has over a four point yards
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: per carry is t J. Yeldon and he's barely across
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: it at four point one, I mean four net. Carlos High,
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: Brandon Wilds, who was obviously not with the team anymore,
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: or Grant. Everybody is below four. It's gotta be better.
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Jeff. The tight ends are
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: disaster blocking. What can you do there? Well, I think
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: this week it's gonna be better. When you get O'Shaughnessy back.
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: I mean he's not a you know, he's not a
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: dominant blocking tight end by any means, but he's gonna
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: he's gonna give you great effort, and he's gonna get
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: in some people's way. I don't think the guy that's
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: kind of a mystery to me at the tight end
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: spot because you know, when you when you look at
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: David Greenage and Blake Bell, I mean, these guys look
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: like their man eaters. I mean literally, yeah, big big
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: big One's a former quarterback. Yeah, quarterback is something? Come on, Pete,
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: was he really a quarterback? He was the bull? What
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: was he the bull? He was? He was not a quarterback. Yeah,
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: but at some point in his life he was an
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: actual quarterback who played quarterback. So he has that mentality.
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: So what, Pete? I played quarterback too, So what are
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: you trying to say? You were soft? Then you were soft,
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: believe it or not. I did Pete all the way
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: until high school? Why did you? Why did you switch?
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: Oh until high school? That doesn't counter play quarterback? In
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: eighth grade? Two? You did? Yeah, eighth grade it was
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: twenty pound team or something. That was a long time ago.
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: Believe me, I played. I called my own plays in
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: eighth grade. You know what I actually did too. And
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: this is this is just a funny story. I think
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: it was the It was a little league lower loud
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: in Little League Okay and Stralian Virginia, and it was
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: the the ram I was. It was like the lower
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: league and the rams out of the quarterback man Pete.
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: We ran seventeen sweep and eighteen sweep. The cows came
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: home and then the coach finally took the play calling
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: away from me. Yeah. JP, if you don't know this,
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: the quarterback is the one eight is the whole. Okay,
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: so one eight team that means good quarterback goes to
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: eight whole. This is a true story. When I was
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: in the eighth in eighth grade or seventh grade, we
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: played I was a hundred fifteen. I had to sweat
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: it out to make it every week or league. Yeah,
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: and we played this star. We played this all star.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: He played in the weight league. Yeah. Do you want
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: to talk about soft everybody was in the weight leagues
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: back then. They didn't have I don't know why wasn't
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: in a weight league a legal if we had a
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: three hundred pound guy. You had to tackle him in
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: Pop Warner. Yes, now everything was weight league. No, we
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: didn't have a weight league, Pete, that's what that's because
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: Virginia football wasn't very Where did you play this at
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: in Florida? So anyway, so we played this all star
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: team from Lexting to Kentucky somehow some way. It was
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: like after the season, and they waited in after practice
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: and they had about four kids that way a hundred
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: thirty after practice, so everybody was in the hundred. So
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: they were bigger kids. So we're playing them. We had
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: no business playing him. They're beating the daylights out of
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: his and one of my wide receiver says, please, I'll
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: pay you if you'd never throw me the football. Yes,
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: like I said, soft, Well, that wasn't me. I got
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: I got beat up that day about that. Jeff, didn
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: you play school football in Virginia and you were probably
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: you probably threw kids around like they were children back then.
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: I was. Now, yeah, and when I was when I
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: was a junior in high school, I was I think
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: six four one eighty ball. Maybe you were mean. You
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: were that kid that everybody ate it. And then my
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: senior I was six six, strapping two oh five. You
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: played baseball too, though, Yeah, and I could. I could
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: play baseball pretty good, but I was I was not
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: a big guy by any means. You were always a kid.
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: If I was a recruiter, you were the kid I
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: would look for because you were six six two or
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: five and you were still good. That means at some
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: point you're gonna be six six to seventy five or
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: two sixty five or whatever you were. But Jeff, now
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: these kids, like some days you see this kid, he's
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: six ft six and three pounds and he's throwing little
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: kids around. But then when he gets to play the
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: kids the same size as him, he can't do it anymore.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: That's true the NFL, though, I mean it's everybody's big.
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: Everybody's big. Pete by the way, and just we've gotten
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: totally off topic. He's sometimes it's good. The Philadelphia Eagles
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: tackle that they got from Australia. He's a rugby player. Yeah,
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: the left tackle got a chance to see him while
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: we were in London. My god, is he a big man?
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: I mean he is. I mean he and here's the thing,
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: he's six eight three fifty ish. But you would assume
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: that he's like six six three fifteen, I mean, felt proportionate,
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: but just big. See the highlights of him running with
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: the rugby bull no problem. Did you see him in
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: the preseason when he was playing tackle? He letn't see it.
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: I would really like to when he was inactive. Go
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: go watch his tape from the preseason. There's games where
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: he actually looks like he's going to be a good player.
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: And I believe it. I believe it. I mean, he's
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: obviously got some talent, but man, the size and the proportion.
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: You sit there and you go, good, God, here's the thing.
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: What's it gonna stop? I mean really, I mean, Pete,
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: when when you first started covering the league, which was
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: what year, oh nineteen, first started actually covering the league? Nine? Okay,
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: and so eighty nine, which the same year I came
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: into the league. Okay, in eighty nine, our tackles were
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: ballpark h two eighty guards were two sixty five to
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: two seventy five are center. Jim Sweeney was probably to
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: seventy and and so where did it go? Well, jeff I,
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: I went back to my old high school to see
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: my high school coach. When I was down here one
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: day and they were playing a game and I walked
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: out on the field. I called out him, and he
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: looked over and he recognized me. He brought me out
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: and I looked at his players and I said, oh
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: my god. I mean I played guard night schol was
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: a little kid, but I played. But these kids are enormous, Hue,
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: how come we didn't think about it that from where
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: we were from from in nineteen nine to where it
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: is today. So where is it gonna be another? I mean,
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: six eight three forty nine gonna be the average size
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: when we get into But why, I mean, okay, I
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: could see guys in the NFL, they were in the
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: strength program. Then why are high school kids gigantic? Now?
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: If you walk out to the high school field, Jeff,
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- 1:30:08Speaker 1: a slender wide receiver nowadays, I would have been a
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- 1:35:18Speaker 1: but me and Pete would be heard. I catch you
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: guys a little bit on the way to the TV
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: show when they replay thanks for listening. Yeah, they replaying
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: on the A M signal. You'd still get a headache,
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: but it would be from clean sound. Yeah. I do
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: get a little bit of a headache. And then uh,
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: by the time I get to the TV show, I'm like, man,
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: I go in here and calm down for a minute.
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: Well it's not me. I just I just know how
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: to tweak them and get him go. That's not hard, No,
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: it's not. It's like it's like throwing fire. I mean
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: the lighter fluid on the fire. He's easy. Dante Fowler
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: got traded for a couple of draft picks. It was
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: a report today, but a counterpoint of counterpart Pete Jason
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: lackinfora said that earlier in the year, if not then
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: with the preseason, that the Jacks had a chance to
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: trade Fowler for Teddy Bridgewater. I've heard that's not true.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: By the way, Really, what was that printed by your
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: I don't know, but I heard it wasn't true, and
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: it probably came from the Jets. Um And and when
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: you look at the situation, it's Jacksonville wanted Teddy Bridgewater.
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: They could have had Teddy Bridge Bridgewater in the off season.
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: By the time when it was looking like the Jetrick
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: gonna trade Bridgewater, they were still all in on Blake Bortles.
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: They just given him an extension, So why would they
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: go trade for Teddy Bridgewater. That makes no sense to me.
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: So and and plus here's the other thing. Bridgewater was
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: still coming off the knee. Nobody knew what he was.
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: I mean, he had the preseason where he played a
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: couple of games. So for me, that that report and
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: maybe the Jets called the Jaguards and said, hey, we
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: got we want Dante Fowler. Maybe we'd throw in Teddy
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: Bridgewater or something like that. But I don't think it
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: was the other way around, and they went searching for it. Alright.
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: So my question to you, Pete is the reports are
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: about a conditional third round pick for Dante Fowler and
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: a future what fifth or six round pick, because that
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: what what what it was? What is the accurate trade
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: they get the first they get the pick that comes
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: back to them, the competitory pick. Whichever the two competitory
- 1:37:25Speaker 1: picks comes back higher, that's the one that the Jaguars
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: will get in the third round. So that's assuming that
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: the Rams will get a competitor. They'll get a couple
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: of them. So if they do, then they get the
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: highest one of those. Now some people will say, why
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: didn't you just get the Rams pick, Well, it's not
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: that much difference because the Rams are gonna be at
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: the back end of the round anyway, So okay, and
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: then what's the other pick that they get. So look
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: for me, if I look at this trade on the surface,
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good trade for the Rams
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: who are desperate for pass rush help. They're two outside
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: edge rushers, and knowing that defense, Wade Phillips needs edge rushers.
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: As good as his down guys are, they only had
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: two sacks in the first seven, nine or eight weeks
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: of the season. That's not good enough. And and Fowler
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: doesn't put up giant sack numbers, but he's still a
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: good serviceable player. Well, he doesn't put up giant sack numbers,
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: and I think part of the reason why is that
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: he's a part time has been a part time player
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. What do you think of him as
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: a player, Because people are calling me, Oh, he's a bust,
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: he's a bust, he's a bust. What do you think
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: of him as a player. I think he's an incredible athlete,
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes I've ever watched. Um He's
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: got tremendous ability. He can do things physically that others
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: just can. Yeah. I think the biggest concern with Dante
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: is that where what do you what do you play
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: him as? Is he a linebacker? Is the defensive end?
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: In a perfect world with the Jaguars, he would have
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: been a two down linebacker of Sam on first and
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: second down and then put his hand in the ground
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: as a edge pass rusher on third down. The reports
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: always words that they had a hard time trusting Dante
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: as a linebacker on first and second down. They were
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: concerned that he couldn't execute the game plan as a linebacker.
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: So that's why he was essentially in a backup role
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: as a defensive end. But if if you can find
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: a way to put him in a scheme that he
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: can play linebacker on first and second down and put
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: his hand in the ground as a rusher outside d
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: rusher on third down. I mean, he's not a bust.
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: I think he's a productive player. I mean, look at
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: what he's been able to do when he's been healthy
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: in the last two years, essentially playing a different position
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: that he did in college. I mean, he's a remarkable
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: athlete and some of the production and he's been able
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: to get eight sacks last year, uh, carrying fumbles back
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: for touchdowns, you know. But the but the reality is
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, he was a twelve day eight team
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: play a game guy and he wasn't gonna be back
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: next year. No, So I think your whole goal look
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: going forward is okay, Well, twelve d eight team plays
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: are the impact plays that he could make? Is it
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: gonna help us win games this year? And for the
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: way it was going was not particularly good. The reports
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: are that he was also involved with some of the
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: things that we're going on over there in London from
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: a negative perspective, And so if you can capitalize now
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: and get better than what the compensatory pick would have
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: been from him leaving in free agency. You take it,
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: and I think the Jaguars wisely took it, and a
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: lot of people looked at that as well, it's tanking. Well, no,
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: it's not tanking because if you actually looked at it
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: from Okay, do you have a guy that can step
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: into that role Laurenti mccraig to want Smoot. I think
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: mccraig can fill that role admirably and in some cases
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: filled that role better than Dante as a edge type
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: player because he's better against the run than Dante. But
- 1:40:51Speaker 1: now who's the Who's the next guy? That's what I'm saying,
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: Laurentie mccraig, after after, because you have you need four
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: edge guys? Right, you want four? Well as far as
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: far is like on subsituations, Yeah, well there's gonna be
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: another one up, right, who's gonna be I think a
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: smooth is gonna be up And you know Smoot's gotta
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: start been up all year and been up all year, Pete,
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: I mean, and you're talking about talking about you're talking
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: about a bus there now, I mean right as of
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: right now, you would say that that is absolutely a
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: bust because when you have a third round pick who's
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: in the second year and he was inactive every game
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: this year and it hasn't been as far as I
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: know because of injury. Uh that's a problem. Well do
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: you have it. He's got an opportunity to show it,
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sure he's gonna be up this week
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: against the Colts. And the Colts right tackle is a
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: rookie and he's a second round pick, and he is
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: he is there for the taking. That line is better,
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: though much better, much better the the rookie. He's a
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: second round pick and he was a Garden college and
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: he's the one guy on that offensive line that's struggling.
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: But I will say that Clinton Nelson Pete, he's good.
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: The last early in the season, he was struggling a
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: little bit, but the last five games. But I'm just
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: saying now the last down the two games I watched, Yeah,
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: he's been. He's a man. Yeah he's been. And you
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: put him next to Ryan Kelly, who went to this
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: guy Scoop you know, Alma Mater JP Obama, Kelly's Obama guy.
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: That's that's two pretty good football play Christonso is a
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: solid left tackle and he's coming back from an injury.
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: He's doing pretty good, Glow Glewinsky. The right guard's Bradon Smith.
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: But Bradon Smith will be good though maybe I think
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: I think he'll be I think eventually he might slide
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: it and play guard. The crazy thing is that he's
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: six six three fifteen. He looks like he's about to eight.
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: He looks like I know. That's it goes back to
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: our theory on the big guys again, they look undersize,
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: but jeff to haven't given up that. They haven't played
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: many good defenses in the last couple We haven't given
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: up a sack in fifteen quarters. That's pretty impressive. It's
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: very impressive intent on the year. And he has been
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: very comfortable in the pocket, which is Andrew luck probably
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: doesn't know how to act. He drops back and he's like,
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: what I do it this time? You're okay? Well? Are
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: aren't I supposed to like improvise and make something happen.
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: He doesn't have to. And and now this is a
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: big This is for me. This is a telling game
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville front. For big they haven't been winning enough, No,
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: they haven't. They haven't been winning enough overall, and What's
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why this team is where
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: it is is because they haven't been at the top
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: of their game like they were last year. I mean
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: this this front. Every week last year you went how
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: are they going to block them? And you hope that
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: the bye week allows Clay's campbell to get a little
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: more healthy. I think of league Jackson's been playing at
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: a pretty high level. I think he's been playing pretty well,
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: and I think Darius has been really good. I think
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: those two guys have been pretty good. I think in
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: Gockway needs to ramp it up, But I will say this,
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: Pete offensive coordinators have given in Gockway a tremendous amount
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: of respect as far as the number of backs that
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: are chipping or tight ends that are doubling him. He is.
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: He has had very few one on one opportunities, and
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: I think as a defense and a defensive coordinator, you
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: probably need to find ways to make And it would
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: be easier if in Gockway was just as good of
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: a rusher from the left side as he is the
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: right side. But he's a better rusher from the right side,
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: and it's easier to have a guy that is better
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: on one side, and that's where he makes Hey had
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: a putting more effort or concentration or focus on stopping
- 1:44:50Speaker 1: him when he's a one side rusher. So alright, fellos,
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll go around the National Football League
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- 1:48:58Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to talk him about with him
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: about is his rookie year, which he was the second
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: round pick of the San Francisco forty Niners back in
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: he had the opportunity to play with one of the
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: great ones. Do you know what I'm talking about? Where
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: was it? What was this? Im? Sorry he was I
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: mean we're talking to Pete. Okay, yeah, okay, it's not
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: an Alabama guy. P has no life. What I'm talking about?
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: What he had the opportunity, Pete to play with Frank Gore,
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: who's surpassed to milestone he San Francisco. Right, thank you,
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: now you've figured out. I'm back, I mean, good lord.
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: And who was fourth on the NFL's all time rushing
- 1:49:47Speaker 1: list and who passed I think it was Barry Sanders
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: for fourth on the all time list as far as
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage this past weekend, which is a trend's accomplishment.
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: So I had the opportunity to play with a couple
- 1:50:01Speaker 1: of great players when I was a young player. Ronnie
- 1:50:03Speaker 1: Lott as a guy our monk, which I got them
- 1:50:07Speaker 1: late in obviously in their later years when they were
- 1:50:11Speaker 1: on the downhill slope, so to speak, Pete. But to
- 1:50:14Speaker 1: be able to come in as a rookie and learn
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: from a guy like Frank Gore, I'm sure it was
- 1:50:20Speaker 1: a great experience for a guy like him. Oh, I'm sure.
- 1:50:25Speaker 1: I mean, look, Frank Core is a pros bro. He
- 1:50:27Speaker 1: just puts his head down and works, and that's why
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: he's still doing it at this high level. UM. And
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: granted he's not the player he used to be, but
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: he can still hit twenty catches, twenty rushes yesterday at
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: his age, pretty incredible numbers. It was only like sixty
- 1:50:42Speaker 1: yards or fifty something yards. It wasn't a big productive day.
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: But the offensive line didn't play well either. And watching
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: the game, and I haven't watched that tape, but they
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: watching the game, they didn't play very well. So look,
- 1:50:51Speaker 1: he's a great he's a he's a probably a Hall
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: of Famer UM. And you know he's been in around
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: the league for a long time and you can't help
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: but learn from guy is like that. Let's go around
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: the National Football League Week number nine. We start off
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers over the Ravens sixteen. James Connor
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: could be his job for good, Pete, what's the deal
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: with and you know what it should be? Did you
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: look at his numbers? They're they're better than what Bell
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: puts out there, and Bell was don't don't get me wrong,
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: Bell is a good football player, but he's not worth
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: the aggravation. It's eight hundred grant eight under grand a
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: week to pay him, and he doesn't want to be
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: around there. And he's sending out a tweet today saying
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: he's coming back, or at least he's leaving Miami. It
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's coming back. If you're don't you put
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: him on the exemple list of your Steelers. When he
- 1:51:38Speaker 1: does come back. That gives you two weeks Connor plays.
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: If he continues to roll up big numbers, then you
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: work Bell in and keep him on the roster just
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: in case, uh, something happens to Connor. Alright, so before
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: we go any further here, Pete, Okay, this the skype
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: shot that you have. Yeah, it makes you look coma.
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: Thank you. Now you look tall and big. Okay, that's
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: much better. Tilted back just a little bit right, Okay,
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: thank you. It's got to get that quicks move along
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: six ft six. It looks like you're peering over a window,
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: so you're trying to reach out. Ye looks over the
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: top of Bears over the Bills forty one to nine.
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: The Bears had a twenty eight zip lead in the
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: first half HOURD with a couple of touchdowns. What's up
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: with the Bills quarterback. Let me let me bring this
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: up Pete first, because since the Bears won, the Bears
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: now got flexed to that Jaguar Sunday night game, and
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: so the Bears will be playing a Sunday night game
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: against the Vikings and then we'll turn around and play
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: an early Thanksgiving game on obviously Thursday, Detroit. Is that fair? Uh? No, Well,
- 1:52:47Speaker 1: Detroit's like a twenty minute flight, doesn't matter, don't matter.
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: You're on the road, JP, You're on the road and
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: you're playing on Thursday early afternoon. Yeah, that's say night. Yeah,
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: but that's a turnaround, JP. It goes from Sunday. JP
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: is worried about is a broadcaster? Hey, I could come
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: on JP. Your body, your body is good, beat up
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: and you gotta Playeve thirty on Thanksgiving. That's rough. That's
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: that that that's not very fair to the Bears. No,
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: just saying Panthers over the Buccaneers forty two. They had
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: a thirty five seven lead at one point. Do you
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: know how many they had, like four or five rushing
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: touchdowns by the Carolina Panthers in that ball game? But
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: you know how many times how many points they score?
- 1:53:28Speaker 1: Forty two how many passing attempts to Cam Newton havent
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: not man, You would think that with forty two points
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: you'd have thrown a lot more. Yes, pretty good number, right, Yeah,
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: they're getting better. That's that's a number that you like
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: the Jaguars to have for Blake Bortles and the rushing
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: touchdowns be nice. The Chiefs over the Browns. Pat Mahomes
- 1:53:52Speaker 1: with the pedestrian three seventy five, three touchdowns and an interception.
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: Kareem Han had a couple of touchdowns. What an off
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: day from the Homes. In another way, he's tremendous, tremen
- 1:54:01Speaker 1: Should do you stop them? Jackson? Pretty decent formula, go
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: back in time and have the Jaguars draft him. Yeah, right,
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: that's what that's what I would have done. You don't
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: draft to running back at number four. I remember correctly, though.
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: I think there was a guy in the in this
- 1:54:18Speaker 1: on this show that was high on that running back
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: at an l s U. I was high on him,
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: That's what I mean, no, no doubt, generational back. I
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be a generational back, and right
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: now he has proven that to be true. Is he
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: a bust? So far? So far? Three point nine yards
- 1:54:34Speaker 1: per carry, third overall pick labor unlocks. I'm not gonna
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: say he's a bus yet, but I mean he's starting to.
- 1:54:42Speaker 1: He's starting to ease more towards that than he is,
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: certainly the generational back. Does he love it? Does he
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: love the game? You guys act like this's gotta be
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: black or white. There can be grays too. Now on
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: this show on Thursday, you can have gray on this
- 1:55:01Speaker 1: Jew's black or white. Dolphins over the Jets, thirteen to six,
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: ugly game. Dolphins gotta pick six in the fourth quarter.
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: Sam Donald beat four interceptions. He came out and said that,
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: he said, it was not a very good game by him, obviously,
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: and he's leading the league interception what does he have fourteen? Now? Yeah?
- 1:55:20Speaker 1: But you know what, though, Jeff, it's so hard to
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: evaluate these young quarterbacks with what they have around them.
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: All of them are in situations where there's not a
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: lot around them, and I think this is just a
- 1:55:29Speaker 1: learning year for all of them. But but and here
- 1:55:32Speaker 1: here's the argument that some coaches make that I don't.
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: I don't. I totally am not on board with this.
- 1:55:37Speaker 1: They'll say, you got to protect a young quarterback protect
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: him with a running game, build talent around him, because
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: otherwise you can ruin them. I don't believe that. No,
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: I don't either. Either a person has the makeup, the
- 1:55:52Speaker 1: mental makeup to get through it or they don't. And
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: I think Blake Bortles is a perfect example. If you
- 1:56:00Speaker 1: don't have to ruin them, well, no, you're not ruining them.
- 1:56:03Speaker 1: If you don't have the mental makeup, then you drafted
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: the wrong guy. That's exactly right. Vikings over the Lions.
- 1:56:07Speaker 1: Stafford sacked nine times, the Hunter had three and a
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: half of them ten it was ten, it was ten.
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: They brewal three and a half. I mean that's the
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: Vikings defensive. Got everything Griffin back and they're starting to
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: look like the old Vikings defense again. Yeah, they're they're
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: pretty good with him back. Daniel Hunter is my favorite
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: player to watch in the league now as a defensive end.
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: Falcons could be back fourteen over the Skins. Julio got
- 1:56:33Speaker 1: a touchdown piece. The Skins are in trouble, big trouble.
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: They lost all their offensive linemen, big trouble. Both guards
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: are out for the year. Trouble. Chargers over the Seahawks seventeen,
- 1:56:44Speaker 1: pick six off will soon many in a row? Is
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: that for the Chargers? Now? Is that six? Seven in
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: a row or five in row? Five? So you're playing
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: good football. That's a good team. Texans won six in
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: a row, Chargers won five in a row. Jaguars four
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: losses in a row. Yeah, great game in New Orleans
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: Saints over the Rams forty five thirty five. Drew Brees
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: is good. Oh, he's really good. And you know what
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: that was? Sean Payton And hey, Sean McVeigh, look at me.
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: I can still call plays. And Mercury Morris is popping
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: champagne last night. I got tired of that. Patriots over
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: the Packers. We've talked about that one. Patro now seven
- 1:57:16Speaker 1: and two. There was really no doubt, was there, Pete?
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: What's some matter? You got something against Sean McVeigh. No.
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: I love Sean McVeigh. I think Sean McVeigh is one
- 1:57:25Speaker 1: of the best play callers in the league. But Sean
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: Payton showed on Sunday that he is too. Are you
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: are you? Are you a Sean Payton guy. We've gotten
- 1:57:33Speaker 1: into it many a time, but I think he's arguably
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: the best play caller into it. Oh, he used to
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: he got mad at me for something. My roadie called
- 1:57:41Speaker 1: me up and screamed and yelled at me a couple
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: of different times. You know me, I don't. And then
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: you see him out and I go, come on, Sean seriously,
- 1:57:47Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, yeah, you're right now, we're fine.
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: We heard some coaches that have called you before. I know,
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: there's a guy down the hallway that used to call
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: me at home once in a while, probably just servidly,
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: so no I was. I was, yeah, well, yeah, probably.
- 1:58:05Speaker 1: It's time for Monday night football deep in the heart
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: of Texas. It's a must win in a battle of
- 1:58:11Speaker 1: three and four teams. Marcus Mariota and the Tennessee Titans
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: visit Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott and the Dallas Cowboys. Who
- 1:58:18Speaker 1: gets back to five hundred tonight logs. Cowboys are at
- 1:58:23Speaker 1: home and if they play well at home, and Jerry
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: Jones does a great job of making that stadium in
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: that place an attractional Monday night football, and I think
- 1:58:34Speaker 1: that they'll be tough. They'll be tough to contend with tonight.
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: I'm taking the Cowboys, Pete, I'm taking the Cowboys too,
- 1:58:40Speaker 1: But it'll be close. Because they're not that good on offense. No,
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: they're not pretty good the other week on offense when
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: the Jaguars came in there that yeah, yeah, but Tennessee
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: will give him all they got now. They will make
- 1:58:51Speaker 1: no mistake. It's gonna be a tight ball game, and
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be in an entertaining ball game.
- 1:58:55Speaker 1: But thought, I gotta run the set. I'll talk to
- 1:58:58Speaker 1: a piece Briscoe, CBS Sports Senior writer each and every
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: Monday on this program. Jeff Flog have been coming up,
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: Jaguars All Access seven o'clock, Mela Mushroom and Avondale get
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: there correct. Carlos Hide will be there as well with
- 1:59:11Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell. I'll be there, and you'll be there to
- 1:59:13Speaker 1: Jeff Flagg in a little while. You'll be there for
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Our thanks to Tony Buselli on
- 1:59:19Speaker 1: the phone earlier, Fred Taylor as well, taking time out
- 1:59:21Speaker 1: on this Monday to join us for his thoughts and
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: memories of Vince Manaway for our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shatrick.
- 1:59:28Speaker 1: Will catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.