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WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.909 --> 00:00:07.080 Andy Whiteside: hi everyone and welcome to episode 31 of the tenants weekly i'm your host Andy whiteside i'm. 2 00:00:07.319 --> 00:00:14.280 Andy Whiteside: sitting in an airport in Richmond Virginia i've got a mask what I may have to grow on every so often is people won't buy that might show a question why I don't have it on. 3 00:00:14.849 --> 00:00:23.880 Andy Whiteside: i'm sitting here all by myself there's not there's not anyone within 100 feet of me, so I think i'm, I think, Dr phelps he would approve I guess got Harvey green with Harvey how's it going. 4 00:00:24.540 --> 00:00:26.220 Harvey Green: pretty good pretty good. 5 00:00:27.300 --> 00:00:39.990 Andy Whiteside: And, of course, our records, I called you I was listening, believe it or not, I listened to these things I listened to the the last year, we did on the flight up here and it was awesome I I reminded myself that I called you the professor and the last one, or maybe the one before that. 6 00:00:41.010 --> 00:00:42.840 Andy Whiteside: let's drivers new name the Professor. 7 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:48.870 Jirah Cox: i'm also sitting here mass list because i'm sitting here alone in my house like I have been every day for the last year and a half. 8 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.390 Andy Whiteside: So there's moving boxes in the background, are you moving or unpacking still. 9 00:00:54.450 --> 00:01:00.270 Jirah Cox: we're moving, we are in the process of moving from the Charlotte area over to the raleigh area sometime between now and the year. 10 00:01:00.390 --> 00:01:01.110 Jirah Cox: little boy you. 11 00:01:02.010 --> 00:01:06.990 Andy Whiteside: Know i'm a big fan, I went to college up there and I go up almost every weekend seems like my kids now. 12 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:10.830 Andy Whiteside: But I am Charlotte guy I like both but. 13 00:01:11.100 --> 00:01:11.280 Andy Whiteside: what's. 14 00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:12.750 Andy Whiteside: what's a precipitating that. 15 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.170 Jirah Cox: We have failing moving to the rural areas when we closer to them so. 16 00:01:17.100 --> 00:01:17.430 Andy Whiteside: what's good. 17 00:01:18.060 --> 00:01:20.340 Jirah Cox: Work from anywhere job is my anywhere can be. 18 00:01:20.370 --> 00:01:21.570 Jirah Cox: became to get can become rally. 19 00:01:22.290 --> 00:01:23.550 Harvey Green: anywhere it can be anywhere. 20 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.380 Harvey Green: yeah it's amazing. 21 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:26.550 Jirah Cox: So so deep. 22 00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:36.450 Andy Whiteside: So guys, we have a ton to cover on this one, we decided to cover this week hybrid cloud infrastructure with new techniques and Microsoft azure ad. 23 00:01:36.870 --> 00:01:45.210 Andy Whiteside: was again listen to the podcast if you're in we were we've been bugging jarrod about this one forever and he finally gave it to us we'll give him all the credit. 24 00:01:45.300 --> 00:01:46.800 Jirah Cox: No oh yeah totally my calling. 25 00:01:48.420 --> 00:01:48.960 Andy Whiteside: All the credit. 26 00:01:49.830 --> 00:01:50.880 Andy Whiteside: But IRA so let's. 27 00:01:50.910 --> 00:01:58.800 Andy Whiteside: let's just jump in and talk about the intro here and and why this why this happened and why it's happening now. 28 00:02:00.780 --> 00:02:04.830 Jirah Cox: yeah so the the y right. 29 00:02:05.970 --> 00:02:26.670 Jirah Cox: Probably drafts a lot of tailwind from the y eugenics clusters on any hyper scale or public cloud cluster right which is to give customers more agility more freedom and ease of migration between lots of environments in there, what we're you know our theme this year for for next for. 30 00:02:27.780 --> 00:02:36.990 Jirah Cox: A lot of stuff right there hybrid multi cloud right understanding that you can you have to have workloads that run in multiple areas right they can be aws can be azure can be on Prem. 31 00:02:37.650 --> 00:02:46.560 Jirah Cox: And we want to make those as easy to manage among each other and it's easy to move workloads between them and deploy workloads into as possible. 32 00:02:47.310 --> 00:02:59.610 Andy Whiteside: Right so timings interesting I I did a podcast with vmware a couple months ago, or a month ago and we've talked about their ability to have desktops run on top of the sphere, yes xp sphere in various clouds. 33 00:02:59.850 --> 00:03:01.290 Andy Whiteside: And then I listened to the citrix. 34 00:03:02.100 --> 00:03:12.600 Andy Whiteside: podcasts click down on the way up here and they were talking about the ability to have this service that manages workloads it can go across different clouds but only limited to vmware at the moment. 35 00:03:13.170 --> 00:03:24.630 Andy Whiteside: This idea that having workloads it can run and your case kind of natively on various platforms real time or at a moment's notice that's that's a big part of going going forward right. 36 00:03:24.900 --> 00:03:25.740 Jirah Cox: yeah for sure right. 37 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:33.390 Jirah Cox: Well, I think, part of it becomes there's lots of interesting ways right, but of course it's it's it there's 18 ways to solve any given problem. 38 00:03:34.230 --> 00:03:45.780 Jirah Cox: and achieving a multi cloud deployment via building that new stuff right taking a template and spitting it out into five different clouds certain can be very valid for certain use cases. 39 00:03:46.890 --> 00:03:51.900 Jirah Cox: For most customers, I talked to their they already have their vm they already have their Apps. 40 00:03:53.340 --> 00:03:59.100 Jirah Cox: Sometimes there's an appetite for hey we're going to use converting tools to move them from X to y. 41 00:04:00.030 --> 00:04:07.470 Jirah Cox: A lot of times there's not right it's here or vm, but I have to you know, I have to get this APP running in this particular cloud. 42 00:04:08.460 --> 00:04:19.260 Jirah Cox: When that can be as simple as well hey great go you already have some mechanics nodes on Prem and you love me phoenix for running workloads for reasons X, Y and Z or there's more than three actually right reasons, a through Z. 43 00:04:19.830 --> 00:04:22.620 Jirah Cox: For running Linux workloads running workloads on the tanks on Prem. 44 00:04:23.850 --> 00:04:31.950 Jirah Cox: When those earnings next vm well guess what there's a really easy way to migrate my applications from you know it within my hybrid multi cloud right from cloud to cloud. 45 00:04:32.730 --> 00:04:47.910 Jirah Cox: New techniques new tannic right, and when I and newt annex is just a software defined solution right to run workloads So if I can get hardware from the cloud provider put software on it and move records move workloads over that's a pretty easy solution to to get you. 46 00:04:48.180 --> 00:04:56.820 Andy Whiteside: guys back in the day, were smart enough to know and that's why Acropolis hypervisor happen the way I did or is that just just happened to be just happened to be how it worked out in the long run. 47 00:04:57.510 --> 00:04:59.430 Jirah Cox: I don't know six of one half dozen the other. 48 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:06.720 Jirah Cox: You know little column a little column B, I mean you know HP right has its roots in giving our customers freedom of choice right. 49 00:05:07.710 --> 00:05:21.270 Jirah Cox: So we can have more flexible deployment options relay on you know already, we have a whole gamut of on Prem hover solutions right off the different shapes sizes logos and you know notes from a cloud provider or just another option now. 50 00:05:22.260 --> 00:05:31.500 Andy Whiteside: Alright, so as I promised would move forward rather quickly, because we have so much to cover it says now in preview so I know in the conversation. 51 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:43.560 Andy Whiteside: A week or so ago there was a little bit of banter back and forth around hey you delivered it well, not quite it's in preview or yay or something I forget what why you called it anyway, what is, what is this now and free piece me. 52 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:51.300 Jirah Cox: I think, even as long as we've been doing this podcast you can see we're making forward progress right so used to we couldn't talk about it now, we can talk about hey it's in preview. 53 00:05:52.710 --> 00:05:55.650 Jirah Cox: The so it's a it's a journey, not a destination. 54 00:05:56.790 --> 00:06:04.680 Jirah Cox: The yeah so no worse we're thrilled to have azure as the latest announced as part of our hybrid you know cloud platform. 55 00:06:05.910 --> 00:06:13.920 Andy Whiteside: yeah and then there's a nice graphical representation here that's got prism at the top and it's got various platforms below it. 56 00:06:15.750 --> 00:06:26.130 Andy Whiteside: If I highlight you know it shows on premises or new tactics private cloud, which means your data Center or some colo wherever you're running mechanics licenses that you've. 57 00:06:26.640 --> 00:06:34.680 Andy Whiteside: purchased or subscribed to, and then the new tannic cloud platform brings in all under the prism banner as you're at this point right. 58 00:06:35.790 --> 00:06:49.500 Jirah Cox: Right, I would go just one step beyond that right to say it's not it's not really private cloud unless you also have thought about automation governance, you know accounting whether that's real chargeback or more commonly just shame back for your top consumers. 59 00:06:50.700 --> 00:06:51.060 Jirah Cox: You know. 60 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.520 Andy Whiteside: All things tomato I say tomato. 61 00:06:53.820 --> 00:06:54.180 Harvey Green: Right. 62 00:06:54.300 --> 00:07:02.730 Jirah Cox: And so, all those things when they can apply to both many tanks on Prem MIT tactics in the cloud right that's what really what's that that private cloud. 63 00:07:04.470 --> 00:07:11.640 Jirah Cox: maturity model slide across you know from whether I want to consume that as notes on Prem nodes in the cloud either or but mix of both. 64 00:07:13.980 --> 00:07:20.370 Andy Whiteside: Any comments on that dialogue around what is cloud, and what is not cloud and how this applies to it. 65 00:07:21.390 --> 00:07:27.240 Harvey Green: I mean that the big thing for me and anybody who's been listening to this knows that i've been waiting on this for a while. 66 00:07:27.900 --> 00:07:35.370 Harvey Green: And we've got plenty of people who have been waiting on in a while just just the flexibility that this brings you. 67 00:07:35.880 --> 00:07:46.110 Harvey Green: The flexibility behind this makes the whole you know buzzwords of hybrid multi cloud actually take place and be real, because now you have. 68 00:07:46.410 --> 00:07:56.580 Harvey Green: The ability to do any your private data Center, you have the ability to do with an azure, you have the ability to do with an aws and you have the ability to use all three of them at the same time that's what you want to do. 69 00:07:57.420 --> 00:08:04.920 Harvey Green: Now you actually have the ability to do hybrid multi cloud the way that we've been talking about it for so long. 70 00:08:05.430 --> 00:08:12.960 Harvey Green: And do it under one platform and be managed, you know under prism or tourism central so basically under one roof. 71 00:08:13.830 --> 00:08:25.590 Harvey Green: you've got some commonalities between all three of them, even though they are completely different sets of resources, and you know handled by completely different sets of people. 72 00:08:27.210 --> 00:08:37.320 Andy Whiteside: we've had several customers that I can think of that have had citrix built in their data Center which you could argue was as a service and now they've moved to citrix and cloud as a service. 73 00:08:37.740 --> 00:08:50.190 Andy Whiteside: And now they're collapsing one of their data centers that was running new tactics and going to replace it with as your maybe even new tactics on azure and then continue to maintain new tactics and the other, so that they get the best of both worlds absolutely. 74 00:08:51.840 --> 00:09:01.290 Jirah Cox: totally wrong if you're if you're a to cite two data centers like today with like you know sort of a primary and secondary or prod and Dr construct I mean it's. 75 00:09:02.100 --> 00:09:08.790 Jirah Cox: One of the easiest ways to go beyond kick the tires right because you can always tire cookies easy putting testing things for real. 76 00:09:09.090 --> 00:09:21.690 Jirah Cox: Is a little bit harder but saying let's try a cloud based Dr site, one of the easiest ways to stand up a cluster right because it's it stands up in about you know, an hour or so build a vpn tunnels, to get to it and then start replicating your workloads. 77 00:09:23.730 --> 00:09:29.670 Andy Whiteside: So dire the next section in here says three easy steps to hybrid cloud step one is deploying new tactics on azure. 78 00:09:33.570 --> 00:09:42.270 Andy Whiteside: That that that similar to building out your new tonics environment on premises now you're just going through whatever process that is within the azure environment. 79 00:09:43.170 --> 00:09:54.480 Jirah Cox: The if we if we steal any prior art here will bring you our new tannic control point right, so we build a cloud. 80 00:09:55.140 --> 00:09:58.620 Jirah Cox: Deployment model that actually builds the notes for you right, so you simply log into your portal. 81 00:09:58.890 --> 00:10:06.480 Jirah Cox: and say I want some notes on azure here's my tenant subscription all right go consume nodes and putting candidates on them for me please, and thank you. 82 00:10:06.930 --> 00:10:14.850 Jirah Cox: You go away and come back in about 45 minutes and that's all of them running for you so there's nothing to actually do on your part, you just tell it how big of a cluster you want it to build and it built for you. 83 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:24.630 Harvey Green: And this is under the banner that they released at that next around the Titanic flow networking and its new features that it can automatically build these things out for you. 84 00:10:25.560 --> 00:10:35.280 Jirah Cox: Right, so I mean the cool thing about anything with API right is that it becomes very, very automated so that that type of yeah we did highlight on the stage workflow that said. 85 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:47.820 Jirah Cox: When I declare disaster right that becomes like a button that I just push and that button can grow grab more nodes bring them online expand the cluster once they're online fail over the workloads we're up and running. 86 00:10:49.170 --> 00:10:56.310 Jirah Cox: Easy peasy and, most importantly, predictable right like the you know I can say i'm helping customers do. 87 00:10:56.970 --> 00:11:09.540 Jirah Cox: You know, on Prem infrastructure based disaster recovery for a long time, using a whole slew of products i've never seen a customer that had the whole thing start to finish in an automated very boring right because we want. 88 00:11:09.930 --> 00:11:18.150 Jirah Cox: In this case, boring, you know run this script and there is no step to type of encapsulation I think that was a very. 89 00:11:19.620 --> 00:11:22.470 Jirah Cox: i'll say again boring but the effective use case for it right. 90 00:11:23.250 --> 00:11:25.020 Jirah Cox: I don't want interesting Dr fail overs. 91 00:11:25.260 --> 00:11:33.300 Harvey Green: Well, and that's that's funny too right, because when you describe it that way and talk about how you get it to the point where it's predictable and boring right i'm looking at. 92 00:11:33.780 --> 00:11:41.940 Harvey Green: The ad man who finds out hey this data centers down, we really need this up, we really need this up and he goes fine. 93 00:11:42.900 --> 00:11:43.890 Jirah Cox: yeah right. 94 00:11:44.520 --> 00:11:45.480 Jirah Cox: yeah totally. 95 00:11:45.540 --> 00:11:47.100 Harvey Green: This is a button insert. 96 00:11:47.130 --> 00:11:50.400 Jirah Cox: insert visual of Harvey pushing a button here that you probably didn't get. 97 00:11:51.690 --> 00:12:04.110 Jirah Cox: The yeah right like insane in one sense, you almost could think of a of a chart of boring to interesting on one axis and then like it practitioner seniority, on the other. 98 00:12:04.170 --> 00:12:06.210 Jirah Cox: Right and the more boring, a task is. 99 00:12:06.330 --> 00:12:19.800 Jirah Cox: The more you can, the more people on on in the organization can run it right if it's a really interesting task that is a select few people that you can give that task to the more boring, it is anybody can do it right, and you want anybody to be able to do with Dr fail over. 100 00:12:20.700 --> 00:12:31.530 Harvey Green: yeah ultimately you want to get it to that point where anybody can do it so you're not depending on that one person and whether or not they wake up to their phone ringing at three o'clock in the morning. 101 00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:39.030 Jirah Cox: yeah right, the decision to fail over as a business decision, but the how to do it needs to be a anybody, you know whoever's on call it can knock that out. 102 00:12:39.900 --> 00:12:50.430 Andy Whiteside: So guys sorry if I missed this or am I logging into a new tannic so site in plugging in my azure information or is this all all hosted and managed in microsoft's world. 103 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:51.720 So. 104 00:12:52.800 --> 00:13:05.340 Jirah Cox: I think yeah I think this should use our MC mmm control panel it's the Multi cloud management plane I think don't don't quote me on the acronyms but it's our. 105 00:13:05.520 --> 00:13:07.800 Jirah Cox: cloud provisioning platform right and so. 106 00:13:08.130 --> 00:13:09.540 Jirah Cox: It it's where. 107 00:13:11.100 --> 00:13:27.990 Jirah Cox: I said, if if we if we reuse any prior art here like like we did for provisioning on aws you know you simply log into the mechanics portal hop over to the to the clusters area and then from there, you can build a cluster on you know now you know your choice of either of these two clouds. 108 00:13:29.250 --> 00:13:35.520 Jirah Cox: So yeah you'll start you'll start and end on the next portal on a on a portal that we maintain for you. 109 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:43.170 Andy Whiteside: Number two under this heading of easy three easy steps is unify on Prem. 110 00:13:44.310 --> 00:13:53.880 Andy Whiteside: i'll highlight the word on Prem because some if you will say on premises on Prem and azure environments, through the use of prison central you want to talk through that a little bit. 111 00:13:54.390 --> 00:14:08.310 Jirah Cox: yeah it's talking about how you know your day to day experience of running this kind of environment really doesn't change dramatically right you're simply running another eugenics cluster that can be part of all your existing automation workflows all your existing management. 112 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:19.410 Jirah Cox: panes of glass is boring but like tabs in your browser right the same prison central that you used today can manage the clusters you already have on Prem and you can manage the clusters that you build in the cloud in the future. 113 00:14:20.760 --> 00:14:25.230 Jirah Cox: As well as target them for automation target them for application they're just another effects classroom. 114 00:14:25.620 --> 00:14:35.430 Harvey Green: yeah so for a lot of our customers a lot of people who are already using new tactics, especially those who are using it in multiple data centers using prison central is. 115 00:14:36.030 --> 00:14:44.730 Harvey Green: Already things that you know something they do now they're already trained on there they already know how to use it, this is just adding another data Center that up just so happens to be an azure. 116 00:14:45.630 --> 00:14:51.840 Harvey Green: So they still control it the same way, they can still use the same control panels, the same screens that they're already used to. 117 00:14:52.530 --> 00:15:04.440 Harvey Green: This just puts it in another data set I mean it's literally you know we talked about cloud all the time right what is cloud it's just somebody else's data Center this, this is just more proof of that you're able to use the current. 118 00:15:05.520 --> 00:15:12.780 Harvey Green: tools that you're using in your data Center right now, for you know azure or for aws and use Cassandra clusters. 119 00:15:15.510 --> 00:15:24.420 Andy Whiteside: So then step three says migrate workloads with these I don't I guess that's a step right you've you've got it all plumbed up and connected and then it's just a matter of. 120 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:36.210 Andy Whiteside: Moving live workloads if i'm not mistaken back and forth, and can you do the concept of live migration between the on Prem and the and the cloud world are. 121 00:15:36.930 --> 00:15:41.520 Jirah Cox: All different Armor we mentioned that specifically yet so far in the in the preview. 122 00:15:42.810 --> 00:15:45.750 Jirah Cox: about the about live migration, but yeah for sure. 123 00:15:47.100 --> 00:15:51.450 Jirah Cox: Migration in general right depending usually there's a lot of latency considerations around that. 124 00:15:53.370 --> 00:16:01.020 Jirah Cox: But for sure replicating snapshots like this architect like this highlights, you know sending data from containers all the vm already have. 125 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:12.480 Jirah Cox: can move there, whether it's with our native new tannic replication or from any vm architecture right using our move tool right which can do basically anything to new tannic type of migration for you. 126 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:19.200 Andy Whiteside: Alright i'm going to pause here for a second and ask the question asked you, the day do either one of you guys know about the entitlements. 127 00:16:19.590 --> 00:16:29.670 Andy Whiteside: That happened in the azure world like the Multi session windows windows client aka windows 11 at this point, but jars as anybody else brought that up to you guys, since we talked last week. 128 00:16:30.990 --> 00:16:34.830 Jirah Cox: No, I remain as agnostic as possible, as I can be on Microsoft licensing. 129 00:16:38.010 --> 00:16:40.680 Andy Whiteside: You might get this one again i'm i'm just wanting. 130 00:16:40.860 --> 00:16:42.240 Jirah Cox: I can say that as much as you want no worries. 131 00:16:43.770 --> 00:16:44.280 Andy Whiteside: I think. 132 00:16:44.400 --> 00:16:55.530 Andy Whiteside: I think that's just huge right the ability to use new tactics and all the ui and all the power that comes along with that and get the entitlements of multi session and true windows subscription licensing. 133 00:16:56.580 --> 00:17:04.860 Andy Whiteside: That that's, just like the like the nirvana of this story to me see are our top priority. 134 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.620 Jirah Cox: sounds very exciting to me i'm glad you're i'm glad you're enthused about it. 135 00:17:11.130 --> 00:17:12.480 Harvey Green: I like what you doing their job. 136 00:17:18.180 --> 00:17:29.880 Andy Whiteside: All right, sorry about the public service announcement, the back alright so next section as feature highlights number one procurement in minutes, I think you guys touched on that with Harvey hit the fictitious button a minute ago but what's that mean. 137 00:17:30.690 --> 00:17:34.890 Jirah Cox: I mean yeah I mean I we we've done this for customers before right like they they hit the button. 138 00:17:36.150 --> 00:17:44.040 Jirah Cox: Had a cluster about 45 minutes later and we're replicating thumbs up to it later that day, so not a lengthy procurement. 139 00:17:45.330 --> 00:17:46.200 Jirah Cox: To get it up and running. 140 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:56.220 Harvey Green: No, I mean that's kind of the point right you when you look at using cloud architecture or public files you're you're doing that for the flexibility. 141 00:17:56.700 --> 00:18:08.010 Harvey Green: and ability to be able to instantly start consuming resources you don't have to go out and buy anything you don't have to go and set anything up rack and stack anything. 142 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:20.040 Harvey Green: Right everything's already there waiting on you and being able to take advantage of that is exactly what this is talking about being able to actually secure in and start using it as a matter of minutes. 143 00:18:21.060 --> 00:18:30.330 Jirah Cox: I think I mean Harvey as much as you and i've seen right lacrosse whether it's a PLC deployment or a real you know purchase mechanics deployment. 144 00:18:31.530 --> 00:18:46.020 Jirah Cox: kind of feels like we're always waiting on the land and networking right, and so, when that when that all just goes away right it's almost it's almost a Platonic ideal of anything that can solve like now it's as fast as it ever could have been under ideal circumstances. 145 00:18:46.770 --> 00:18:55.500 Harvey Green: And it's so funny you know the things we get used to right, because when you talked before about Oh, we need to bring up a Dr data Center, for example. 146 00:18:55.950 --> 00:19:07.950 Harvey Green: Normally you're talking months out right because you've got all kinds of things to put in place, one of them, just to make you laugh around you know your common around network and one of them is making sure you get seconds in there. 147 00:19:08.280 --> 00:19:14.490 Harvey Green: yeah something as simple as that that that is what probably takes the walk in the process like. 148 00:19:14.520 --> 00:19:22.470 Jirah Cox: yeah sorry, right now, when the business says we need do we need it tomorrow, and you go yeah sure no problem you'll get like a double take of like wait what. 149 00:19:22.560 --> 00:19:25.560 Jirah Cox: yeah usually you say we can't and we argue with this point. 150 00:19:25.590 --> 00:19:26.940 Jirah Cox: Negative say yes. 151 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:40.710 Harvey Green: yeah that's that's a very powerful thing and eventually we'll get to the point where you know you'll say oh yeah we can do it in 45 minutes and i'm like oh my gosh 45 minutes what's taking you so long. 152 00:19:41.010 --> 00:19:41.790 Jirah Cox: Right at some point. 153 00:19:42.030 --> 00:19:44.220 Jirah Cox: At some point we applied the scotty principle right and you like. 154 00:19:44.460 --> 00:19:46.230 Jirah Cox: had your estimates that you look even better. 155 00:19:46.770 --> 00:19:47.220 Right. 156 00:19:49.980 --> 00:19:57.720 Andy Whiteside: So guys i'm just envisioning this button thing we need to create like as a marketing campaign it's just the button it's just just just click the button. 157 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:06.750 Andy Whiteside: Okay, on demand scale up scale down, hopefully, a lot of our listeners have been having cloud I as and pass conversations for a while, but. 158 00:20:07.590 --> 00:20:20.130 Andy Whiteside: You know nothing changes there we just now have new tactics to we just now have new tactics in play, which makes that story around image management, as I was alluding to earlier just just part of it and simplified and easy right right. 159 00:20:20.910 --> 00:20:25.080 Jirah Cox: Well, and it's like hardware as a service finally sort of. 160 00:20:26.790 --> 00:20:35.490 Jirah Cox: On throttles our software capabilities that we've always had right we've always been able to expand the cluster at a node you know in minutes right just detect it expand done. 161 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:50.040 Jirah Cox: When I can make the hardware up here as a service on demand as well, now I can really expand, you know crazy crazy fast right we have customers, you know that that's part of Dr plan is fail over and add more nodes to accommodate you know the running workload there. 162 00:20:52.260 --> 00:21:00.690 Andy Whiteside: So next section global expansion without physical data Center presence again reminding the world that these aren't real clouds these are data centers that were just connecting to. 163 00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:01.680 Jirah Cox: yeah totally. 164 00:21:01.950 --> 00:21:14.340 Andy Whiteside: Probably use that joke over and over again, but now we've got the ability to go worldwide, based on the presence of microsoft's data centers aka azure in places that we haven't gone yet, but we can now. 165 00:21:14.760 --> 00:21:20.640 Jirah Cox: yeah i'm sure we've all heard customers say they want to get out of the get out of the data Center business right which makes certain sense right like. 166 00:21:21.090 --> 00:21:32.070 Jirah Cox: I would say, with almost about meeting a customer you probably should be in either the cloud or a good quality local colo right like I agree most almost everybody should get the business of running private data centers. 167 00:21:33.810 --> 00:21:41.040 Jirah Cox: And this can this can accomplish that goal to right when you can move a workload into you know really with it says data Center think of it more like an availability zone. 168 00:21:41.100 --> 00:21:44.340 Harvey Green: right but, but I just put an AC in the broom closet is this. 169 00:21:44.340 --> 00:21:44.610 working. 170 00:21:47.100 --> 00:21:50.400 Jirah Cox: And there's a giant there's a giant sign on the switch says, do not turn off right. 171 00:21:50.820 --> 00:21:52.230 Jirah Cox: Like What else do I mean. 172 00:21:54.180 --> 00:21:54.540 Jirah Cox: You know. 173 00:21:56.190 --> 00:22:07.110 Andy Whiteside: This from a from a technical in a data Center you know the hardware footprint, but the other part, is just the expansion of the business without those limitations and slow down. 174 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:13.440 Jirah Cox: Absolutely totally right like if if you think you'll only ever need a broom closet worth of technology, like. 175 00:22:14.370 --> 00:22:24.690 Jirah Cox: I would hope you're planning for more growth in that, for your business right like if that that will eventually become a constraint right and how do we solve that constraint, what if your business does grow and enix need to exceed that. 176 00:22:27.390 --> 00:22:33.660 Andy Whiteside: Okay next is integrated networking, which I think we touched on a little bit ago you guys talked about waiting on the networking guys. 177 00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:38.400 Andy Whiteside: Not, not to say that haven't done that, not to say I haven't had networking guys just totally break. 178 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:42.810 Andy Whiteside: My entire environment aka provisioning services over the weekend and then. 179 00:22:43.500 --> 00:22:55.380 Andy Whiteside: Blame blame me like literally me like I wasn't even here, you guys did a whole network cut over but anyway so networking and the integration piece that just comes along with having it in a public cloud like. 180 00:22:56.190 --> 00:23:03.750 Jirah Cox: yeah I mean the simplicity right talked about them, combined with you know the benefit of treating the cloud as a you know. 181 00:23:04.470 --> 00:23:09.870 Jirah Cox: You could say data Center could say availability zone right it's like what do I, what can I then do what interesting things can I do. 182 00:23:10.230 --> 00:23:25.230 Jirah Cox: With proximity to the cloud right when I want to have like consumer cloud service well boy doing it within that perimeter can make a lot of sense for certain workloads right so getting to natively access as your services at as your network speeds it's pretty cool. 183 00:23:26.700 --> 00:23:32.940 Andy Whiteside: Though yeah and knowing that that's hardware and capabilities behind that software beyond what you could ever afford or maybe many people. 184 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:33.330 Right. 185 00:23:35.460 --> 00:23:35.760 Harvey Green: Right. 186 00:23:35.820 --> 00:23:38.880 Andy Whiteside: Smart host placements, what is this term mean. 187 00:23:39.630 --> 00:23:45.270 Jirah Cox: So think i'm thinking of the cloud as a data Center as a bunch of data centers as a bunch of availability zones. 188 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:55.200 Jirah Cox: just saying that basically behind the scenes were being smart enough to say you know place my nodes intelligently, such that, like a rack failure can't take out more than one of them. 189 00:23:56.190 --> 00:24:04.230 Jirah Cox: Or if if if there are multiple ones in Iraq right are we configured for the right kind of like rack awareness that we can do at a bigger level, to make sure that these kind of. 190 00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:10.980 Jirah Cox: Failure domains that you made me not can't can't always control as a tenant of the cloud don't affect your workloads. 191 00:24:12.210 --> 00:24:18.900 Andy Whiteside: And that's a level of smartness that new tannic is going to bring on top of or validation at least. 192 00:24:19.350 --> 00:24:20.100 Andy Whiteside: On top of azure. 193 00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:33.390 Jirah Cox: Usually yeah i'm not authoritative on that usually it's a brokering between the mcs our deployment platform and the back end cloud provider to say you know I need a note in this availability zone or in that failure domain and then it gets placed intelligently. 194 00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:36.960 Andy Whiteside: And then number six i'm just envisioning. 195 00:24:38.100 --> 00:24:51.540 Andy Whiteside: harvey's wives saying I told you so but broke anyway, so now, I need to come up and makes it make it happen over here like mitic mitigating that potential risk email number five, but then you know adjusting for if and when it happens. 196 00:24:51.570 --> 00:24:53.340 Jirah Cox: Sorry podcasters therapy yeah. 197 00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:54.750 Jirah Cox: The. 198 00:24:55.410 --> 00:25:02.940 Jirah Cox: So auto host remediation talks about how is the other benefit right that derives from hardware as a service is that now, if the hardware. 199 00:25:03.510 --> 00:25:13.110 Jirah Cox: goes belly up you know go sideways because hardware going to hardware why bother waiting on that new to get fixed and like lay hands on it crack it open the way we would on Prem. 200 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:21.600 Jirah Cox: Man fail fast inject that nodes in the cluster bringing a new one re he'll done right that that works note is somebody else's problem, not mine anymore. 201 00:25:22.950 --> 00:25:25.050 Harvey Green: that's such a beautiful thing to make. 202 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:33.030 Andy Whiteside: me imagine a world where you let X percent of the hardware go bad for you can go in and start replacing them you just don't. 203 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:34.890 Andy Whiteside: want it. 204 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:36.690 Jirah Cox: will see that but see that's that's a that's a. 205 00:25:36.840 --> 00:25:50.430 Jirah Cox: If I, if I may it's an old school own the hardware model when I when my SLA from not calling the cloud provider is I pay you per note I want healthy notes, I give it back as soon as it gets sick right like there's no requirement to tolerate X percentage of sick nodes. 206 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.050 Andy Whiteside: Right yeah. 207 00:25:53.190 --> 00:25:58.650 Andy Whiteside: Dr cost optimizations there's a huge element of this that if, at the very least. 208 00:25:59.250 --> 00:26:06.810 Andy Whiteside: You don't use this for production, every day, every moment use cases, certainly from a Dr perspective, the idea that you're paying a fortune for. 209 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:16.350 Andy Whiteside: Old clunky hardware, that you have to go deploy upon when the time comes, that those days should be over for most, and this is just another enabler of making that happen. 210 00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:26.370 Harvey Green: yeah, this is another big one for a lot of people just the ability to have something sitting there basically waiting for you. 211 00:26:27.330 --> 00:26:38.100 Harvey Green: In the case that you have a Dr scenario, but you're not paying full price for it, the entire time and full price to your point and it doesn't just mean in dollars. 212 00:26:38.490 --> 00:26:48.210 Harvey Green: That in upkeep and maintenance and making sure that things are working, you have all of these costs that go into having a ready Dr. 213 00:26:48.810 --> 00:26:58.740 Harvey Green: scenario, so that you know when you actually do have a failure, you can fill the to it, this is giving you the option to be able to have that in a cost effective bundle. 214 00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:07.170 Harvey Green: And then, when something does happen, you can then take what you have there and just expand it out, you know deploy that. 215 00:27:07.830 --> 00:27:17.280 Harvey Green: deploy the platform there so that you can we bring up all the virtual machines, you need in a very quick fashion, like we've already been discussion discussing. 216 00:27:17.790 --> 00:27:27.630 Harvey Green: and be able to just move forward right this this is giving you that flexibility and giving you that scenario that we've been talking about for so long and the it world. 217 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:36.060 Andy Whiteside: yeah one of my favorite stories there for years after hurricane Katrina went to sun garden Atlanta, and there were still people walking around in their bathrobes. 218 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.680 Andy Whiteside: They were they were stuck there. 219 00:27:40.170 --> 00:27:48.750 Jirah Cox: yeah that that ability to you know just pay for what you need when you need it right have keep a pilot light cluster a smaller Dr cluster around just as a replication target. 220 00:27:49.470 --> 00:27:58.620 Jirah Cox: get more nodes if you need to for more compute capacity, when you fail over right that's that's that's always been our mantra and eugenics right pay for what you need when you need it, you know. 221 00:27:59.130 --> 00:28:06.750 Andy Whiteside: And, and maybe you reserve, some of it, or what have you and know that when you get it it's kind of irrelevant not 10 year old stuff that some I just met the minimum. 222 00:28:06.930 --> 00:28:07.710 Andy Whiteside: Right SLA. 223 00:28:08.280 --> 00:28:14.070 Jirah Cox: yeah and that's and that's an interesting model that you know a lot of cloud providers expose is that. 224 00:28:14.430 --> 00:28:27.210 Jirah Cox: Why, I want to pay for these on a commitment basis and therefore pay a lower price per pound for those pay for these on demand pay, maybe a higher hourly cost, but I also want need them all the time right, so all net out a savings there. 225 00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:39.180 Andy Whiteside: Okay, this last the number eight here is talks about cost visibility and governance gyro kind of alluded to, that a while ago when he's talking about you know what it really means to have a private cloud. 226 00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:41.160 Andy Whiteside: You know we've got people that that. 227 00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:51.930 Andy Whiteside: Adopt hyper converge and that's that's really enough to call it, their own private cloud but, and so you take advantage of some of the business benefits like visibility and governance, you really not. 228 00:28:52.320 --> 00:29:04.950 Andy Whiteside: you're really not getting what the cloud promises and, obviously, if you can take your new chantix on premises and move it into public cloud by proxy of what the public cloud does you automatically get some of those business objectives covered. 229 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:06.870 Jirah Cox: The. 230 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.270 Jirah Cox: yeah for sure right the. 231 00:29:10.710 --> 00:29:17.610 Jirah Cox: Not not losing that ability to get visibility into like what am I pay per vm right and how do I make sure that i'm. 232 00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:24.870 Jirah Cox: Helping hold applications accountable on a on a cost basis, like it's critical to maintain that. 233 00:29:26.490 --> 00:29:30.750 Jirah Cox: Wherever you're going to deploy a vm in the course of course no different with the solution either. 234 00:29:32.460 --> 00:29:46.260 Andy Whiteside: So guys, for the sake of time i'm going to kind of move us through this next piece key use cases and supported regions let's go with the use cases first we've hit, some of them already business continuity and disaster recovery those aren't the same thing, but they go hand in in. 235 00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:50.730 Andy Whiteside: Any additional highlights beyond what we've covered so far. 236 00:29:54.240 --> 00:30:01.710 Harvey Green: No yeah I think we've covered those well and hopefully everybody at this point, knows the difference between the two, if not let's have a conversation. 237 00:30:03.810 --> 00:30:03.990 yeah. 238 00:30:05.100 --> 00:30:13.080 Jirah Cox: But ability to use any like it says here any supported as your region, right now, can be can be a Dr environment for you very, very important. 239 00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:16.830 Andy Whiteside: And that does a lot for enabling geographic. 240 00:30:18.330 --> 00:30:19.140 Andy Whiteside: Geographic. 241 00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:30.180 Andy Whiteside: Trying to say here diversity are covering that geographic checkbox that a lot of folks can't cover within their own footprint or haven't historically been able to. 242 00:30:33.060 --> 00:30:37.740 Andy Whiteside: All right, Guy just went back here and a Hello kitty bag RON escape for to the airport. 243 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:38.790 yeah. 244 00:30:39.930 --> 00:30:42.780 Jirah Cox: I mean, I think we all agree, something he's having a really great day. 245 00:30:44.610 --> 00:30:48.570 Andy Whiteside: You know these terminals are probably a great place to ride a skateboard I mean you know. 246 00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:52.230 Jirah Cox: Like your travel can only take it out of here right but that guy he is prepared. 247 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:53.010 yeah. 248 00:30:55.170 --> 00:31:08.640 Andy Whiteside: Alright, the next says on demand capacity bursting I think we've covered that that's what public clouds and then the the frictionless at migration to azure a lot of companies have some degree of needing to move to cloud. 249 00:31:09.150 --> 00:31:19.530 Andy Whiteside: that's covered in the last podcast some people are you know they're hedging their bets and forecasting less of that, but certainly something's something's belong there at certain moments of the day. 250 00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:32.760 Harvey Green: Well, and this, this is another another big one right this this is i've got this APP that is basically chained me to this operating system this server in this data Center. 251 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:44.670 Harvey Green: And now you've got the ability to still move that APP basically on its same infrastructure just using utilizing new tenants, to put it. 252 00:31:45.570 --> 00:31:58.260 Harvey Green: put it in a different physical place so that it can still run you, you might still be changed, some of those other things that you're chained to from a software perspective, but at least you don't have to be changed physically. 253 00:31:59.790 --> 00:32:00.450 Andy Whiteside: would be, I think. 254 00:32:00.750 --> 00:32:10.860 Jirah Cox: The use cases almost got together right when you can move Apps quickly you can move them whether they need to move and stay there, or move them whether they need to do, like a seasonal kind of burst right. 255 00:32:13.080 --> 00:32:18.300 Andy Whiteside: Could could be like the early days of live migration, where you just move servers around just for the fun of it by notice. 256 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:21.990 Jirah Cox: well. 257 00:32:22.590 --> 00:32:23.970 Harvey Green: I never did that never. 258 00:32:26.070 --> 00:32:30.480 Jirah Cox: it's funny like this theme of networking being so important as we go through this right like. 259 00:32:32.580 --> 00:32:39.450 Jirah Cox: Because networking doesn't necessarily mean like switching networking can mean like who talks to that APP right if your citrix farm was. 260 00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:52.740 Jirah Cox: On Prem and your APP moves to azure well that's an interesting choice let's say at least right like with that ability to say let's keep the EC farm near the application server when it moves now that's that's actually an enabler right. 261 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.830 Harvey Green: Please always move workloads people. 262 00:32:56.250 --> 00:32:57.210 Harvey Green: yeah yeah. 263 00:32:58.260 --> 00:32:59.220 Jirah Cox: Totally right like what. 264 00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:01.260 Jirah Cox: Data has gravity Harvey like that matters. 265 00:33:01.290 --> 00:33:02.310 Harvey Green: Yes, yes. 266 00:33:03.840 --> 00:33:04.230 Harvey Green: Probably. 267 00:33:04.260 --> 00:33:09.990 Andy Whiteside: We we like to say the citrix protocol ICA or hd X it's it's awesome but it's not magic. 268 00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:20.940 Andy Whiteside: Okay, our next section here talks about supported regions like this is currently in the preview at least available in US East and West, that is correct right. 269 00:33:21.810 --> 00:33:28.620 Jirah Cox: yeah I mean this part this part will probably stale the quickest I guess this podcast like could have a lot of value in two years, but this one. 270 00:33:29.340 --> 00:33:37.920 Jirah Cox: will almost certainly change change first right, so this is just saying just hold on preview here's the channel the two as your regions right that we that we're reading the preview in. 271 00:33:39.090 --> 00:33:39.390 yeah. 272 00:33:40.470 --> 00:33:46.530 Andy Whiteside: So this next section is the network and storage architecture that's probably a podcast all to itself. 273 00:33:48.810 --> 00:33:51.090 Andy Whiteside: How do we cover this in five minutes on a podcast. 274 00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:57.750 Jirah Cox: bye bye teasing the next podcast and just say yeah. 275 00:33:58.650 --> 00:33:59.100 Harvey Green: For sure. 276 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:05.640 Jirah Cox: That you know in general right new tannic deployment right brings it to the end users. 277 00:34:06.690 --> 00:34:20.850 Jirah Cox: And then also you know leveling up that new tonics clusters on azure right also powered by flow networking, which we have barely been said on this podcast and would be a much deeper dive but will bring even more capabilities to end users so. 278 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:26.790 Andy Whiteside: Why don't we do this, why don't we why don't we call this one, a podcast with some of the conversations we've had so far and. 279 00:34:27.120 --> 00:34:36.420 Andy Whiteside: And we'll prep and have a part two of this one is fun talk more about the networking architecture piece, and maybe dive deeper and gyro if you're getting me on your side that you want to bring to that. 280 00:34:37.080 --> 00:34:46.500 Andy Whiteside: Bring to that conversation that would be great but let's let's let's don't try to rush through this part because there's some really good information that we don't want to just gloss over. 281 00:34:49.710 --> 00:34:51.240 Harvey Green: Our our first part two. 282 00:34:53.940 --> 00:35:00.600 Andy Whiteside: cliffhanger or like people my age like to talk about when Bo and Luke jump to jump and now we go to commercial. 283 00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:01.950 Harvey Green: that's right. 284 00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:06.450 Andy Whiteside: Some people have no idea why. 285 00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:08.190 Harvey Green: That makes me feel alone. 286 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:09.750 Jirah Cox: Can I be one of those people. 287 00:35:10.830 --> 00:35:11.430 Harvey Green: Really. 288 00:35:11.940 --> 00:35:13.290 Jirah Cox: yeah yeah a little bit. 289 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.420 Harvey Green: that's how you you you figure it out by the next one we're going to ask you on it. 290 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.200 Jirah Cox: So I figured that out you're gonna figure out for networking and belief or. 291 00:35:22.620 --> 00:35:22.980 No. 292 00:35:24.060 --> 00:35:27.990 Harvey Green: Okay we'll discuss that when we discuss this this other piece for you. 293 00:35:28.350 --> 00:35:31.680 Jirah Cox: As your homework oh got it okay Oh, I have them right now okay cool. 294 00:35:31.710 --> 00:35:33.240 Harvey Green: yeah now you have homework. 295 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.540 Jirah Cox: yeah I had nothing else to do so that's that's great. 296 00:35:36.870 --> 00:35:41.280 Andy Whiteside: yeah to make it easy for you just Google Bo and Luke cliffhanger or something. 297 00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:43.440 Jirah Cox: Right very cool. 298 00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:46.350 Harvey Green: When you come back next week you'd be one of the good old boys. 299 00:35:46.560 --> 00:35:47.070 Jirah Cox: Oh Nice. 300 00:35:50.010 --> 00:35:51.840 Andy Whiteside: That was a good, that was a good tie in there. 301 00:35:55.590 --> 00:36:03.210 Harvey Green: I would really like to I would really like to see who who knows what we're talking about it this point that's. 302 00:36:04.410 --> 00:36:08.730 Andy Whiteside: All i'll say is Friday night TV when I was a kid was so much better than it is now. 303 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.270 Andy Whiteside: You waited all week for Friday night TV. 304 00:36:12.450 --> 00:36:13.170 Absolutely. 305 00:36:14.370 --> 00:36:17.070 Andy Whiteside: And you go back and watch it nearly that was horrible but man was so good. 306 00:36:19.170 --> 00:36:24.150 Jirah Cox: I can, I can, I can tell them context clues right, this is like Michael hump this would be you know. 307 00:36:25.650 --> 00:36:34.440 Jirah Cox: Adam West Burt Ward you know Batman Robin like tied to the board like sinking into the VAT of acid and they're like ah same BAT time same BAT channel yes. 308 00:36:34.980 --> 00:36:35.340 Andy Whiteside: And that was. 309 00:36:35.490 --> 00:36:36.780 Andy Whiteside: able to watch it. 310 00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:39.000 Harvey Green: TAO. 311 00:36:39.060 --> 00:36:41.490 Jirah Cox: Is the, that is the most enjoyable bad TV ever Washington. 312 00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:42.150 damn. 313 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.310 Andy Whiteside: I thought you were gonna go somewhere like South bar or something more. 314 00:36:49.890 --> 00:36:50.400 Andy Whiteside: More. 315 00:36:51.660 --> 00:36:56.280 Jirah Cox: More recent generation, I mean that's my life philosophy Why go South park when I could go Batman. 316 00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:57.810 Andy Whiteside: yeah okay. 317 00:36:58.140 --> 00:36:58.830 Jirah Cox: words to live by. 318 00:37:02.100 --> 00:37:07.410 Andy Whiteside: Alright guys well i'll let you go with that one I got a hotel and have dinner I got to get to but we'll do a part two of this and. 319 00:37:08.250 --> 00:37:19.710 Andy Whiteside: Maybe there'll be more content even than what we've covered so far, but we will revisit this one, and hopefully people got a lot out of it it's a big thing and as we've you know, been chasing jarrod forever and he finally got it out. 320 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:21.660 Andy Whiteside: Right clusters on. 321 00:37:23.580 --> 00:37:25.560 Jirah Cox: sorry that I was such a such a hold up there, you know. 322 00:37:27.030 --> 00:37:29.280 Jirah Cox: i'll try to do better next time or something. 323 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.070 Andy Whiteside: i'm just glad you had time to get all the code together. 324 00:37:34.290 --> 00:37:36.930 Jirah Cox: Well, you know that's why I said I have nothing to do now right. 325 00:37:39.720 --> 00:37:42.960 Andy Whiteside: it's work here is done he's gonna move to raleigh and find a different project to go. 326 00:37:45.990 --> 00:37:47.520 Harvey Green: out to other regions cool. 327 00:37:49.020 --> 00:37:50.790 Andy Whiteside: Alright guys thanks for the time we'll do again next week.