Latest / Cuff’s Basement / The Breakfast Club
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, Ryan. Hey, Jim.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I know, remember when I was working on my album?
- 0:06Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 0:07Speaker 2: And the release got relayed. Wow, that's what I just
- 0:10Speaker 2: started to say. The release got delayed.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Okay.
- 0:13Speaker 2: And Pep had texted, like, is it all covers? And
- 0:17Speaker 2: I said, oh, no, there's original music. So I'd like
- 0:19Speaker 2: to release my first original written by me, performed by me,
- 0:26Speaker 2: produced by me, single, live on the podcast.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Okay.
- 0:30Speaker 2: For the first time in the world. And you know me,
- 0:34Speaker 2: I take criticism incredibly well. Better than anyone. And I
- 0:40Speaker 2: need your honest feedback on this song, okay?
- 0:45Speaker 1: Yep.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Because we're trying to push CDs here, right? We want
- 0:49Speaker 2: to sell records. So anyways, without further ado, here's the
- 0:54Speaker 2: debut of my original song, Buckle Your Shoes. Okay.
- 1:06Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:11Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 1:13Speaker 1: Honest feedback? Yeah. Is it finished?
- 1:17Speaker 2: Is the song finished?
- 1:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I mean, what do you mean? Obviously, yes.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Okay. Not great. Could auto-tune it, use it, maybe it's
- 1:30Speaker 1: a back....
- 1:51Speaker 3: All right. Oh, I shouldn't have. All right.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Let me do that again.
- 1:56Speaker 1: This is how I.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Wanted to start.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, hey, ooh.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Hey, Ryan, let's talk about this movie. Welcome back to
- 2:35Speaker 2: Kyle's basement.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I'll be here. Yep. We're back.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I'll be alone in my basement and you know it, baby.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Paw Patrol underwear's on the table. Yep, I'm literally holding
- 2:49Speaker 2: Paw Patrol underwear. But, we are here to talk about Ryan?
- 2:57Speaker 1: We're talking about The Breakfast Club?
- 3:02Speaker 3: Yes.
- 3:03Speaker 2: We are here to talk about another classic film. I
- 3:06Speaker 2: think that we did, I mean, we've really been doing
- 3:09Speaker 2: some bangers. We did the Dark Knight trilogy, There Will
- 3:12Speaker 2: Be Blood, which is just Like, honestly, if you told
- 3:15Speaker 2: me you consider There Will Be Blood one of the
- 3:17Speaker 2: greatest movies of all time, I wouldn't necessarily agree with you,
- 3:20Speaker 2: but I'd be like, totally get it. Totally get it.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Sure. And this movie... Oh, yeah, I forgot to also...
- 3:28Speaker 2: Another intro I forgot to do. It's Back to School Month.
- 3:31Speaker 2: That's right. Because it's September. So this is actually Ryan's idea.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Ryan said we should do a Back to School Month
- 3:38Speaker 2: because there's so many good college movies, high school movies,
- 3:42Speaker 2: kindergarten movies.
- 3:44Speaker 1: um, it's one great one. Yeah.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Kindergarten cop. Yes, exactly. That's where my head was at.
- 3:50Speaker 1: And kind of Billy Madison in a way.
- 3:52Speaker 2: I also thought that to be honest with you, kind
- 3:54Speaker 2: of Billy Madison, uh, Billy Madison would be a great
- 3:56Speaker 2: back to school movie to do with Ben. I don't
- 3:58Speaker 2: know if we're going to have time.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Great back to school song. Yeah.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Oh, back to school, back to school. My favorite song
- 4:05Speaker 2: in Billy Madison is when he covers, uh, when he
- 4:08Speaker 2: hires that hair metal cover band and then they do
- 4:10Speaker 2: a song about Billy graduated the third grade. And then when,
- 4:14Speaker 2: It's so bad and cheesy, and then when it's over,
- 4:16Speaker 2: Billy goes.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Yeah, rock on.
- 4:19Speaker 5: When they cut to them and those guys are just
- 4:22Speaker 5: in it singing the song, they're just feeling it.
- 4:24Speaker 1: It's amazing.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Yeah, but back to school month, and the first movie
- 4:29Speaker 2: I wanted to do was a movie that came out
- 4:32Speaker 2: the year I was born, 1986, and it is called
- 4:39Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
- 4:41Speaker 1: It's 85.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Is it 85?
- 4:43Speaker 1: Fuck. It is.
- 4:44Speaker 2: I just keep, I keep screwing up this intro. We'll do,
- 4:46Speaker 2: we'll start over. Hey, welcome back to Cuspid. No, I'm
- 4:49Speaker 2: not going to do that.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Don't do the song. Okay.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Wait, do you mean buckle your shoes or do you
- 4:54Speaker 2: mean the breakfast club song?
- 4:57Speaker 1: Absolutely. I meant buckle your shoes.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So I can sing the breakfast club song.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Absolutely. Sure. That was fine.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Didn't this band, was it, is it Simple Minds? Is
- 5:08Speaker 2: that what they're called?
- 5:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Didn't they try to distance themselves from the song because
- 5:12Speaker 2: it became like so popular with the movie?
- 5:14Speaker 1: So it's, it's crazy.
- 5:15Speaker 5: Uh, my friend who, you know, John, he was saying
- 5:20Speaker 5: they are actually very big in the UK as a band,
- 5:23Speaker 5: not just like for this one song. And I think
- 5:25Speaker 5: because they became so synonymous with this song, they tried
- 5:29Speaker 5: to like kind of keep away from like a one
- 5:30Speaker 5: hit wonder ish kind of thing.
- 5:34Speaker 2: So they were like, please forget about me in this song.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, hey.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Got him. That's exactly what.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Got him.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Got him. Yeah, so, okay, it's 85, not 86, so
- 5:49Speaker 2: it's older. This movie's older than me, so this movie's
- 5:51Speaker 2: 41 years old.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah.
- 5:55Speaker 2: And I want to talk about John Hughes. I want
- 5:57Speaker 2: to talk about my history with this movie, but I
- 5:59Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, because I don't remember ever talking
- 6:02Speaker 2: to you about this movie. What is your history with
- 6:04Speaker 2: this movie? When did you first see this movie?
- 6:07Speaker 1: Okay.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Do you like the movie? Does it mean anything to you?
- 6:10Speaker 2: Or is it just like, hey, this is a high
- 6:12Speaker 2: school movie and it's fine?
- 6:14Speaker 1: I was.
- 6:17Speaker 5: Saying to you via text, I think this is weirdly
- 6:19Speaker 5: a movie I've seen in pieces that have overlapped over
- 6:21Speaker 5: time and you kind of put the movie together in
- 6:23Speaker 5: your head like you've seen on TV so much.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I think.
- 6:28Speaker 5: This was literally the first time I've ever watched it
- 6:30Speaker 5: beginning to end. And it was not a... movie of
- 6:36Speaker 5: mine like an influential movie of mine not in a
- 6:39Speaker 5: refusal way it just wasn't um it just didn't really
- 6:42Speaker 5: come across to me like i did i never pursued
- 6:44Speaker 5: it either i like john hughes um oh it was
- 6:47Speaker 5: great watching i thought it was really really great um
- 6:51Speaker 5: yeah but it just wasn't um i hit you at
- 6:55Speaker 5: the right time movie i guess put it that way
- 6:56Speaker 5: for me.
- 6:57Speaker 2: So this to me is kind of like catcher in
- 7:00Speaker 2: the rye in the sense that When I first– I
- 7:03Speaker 2: read Catcher in the Rye when I was in high
- 7:05Speaker 2: school or college I think. And this is back when
- 7:07Speaker 2: I was a maniac and I would like stay up
- 7:08Speaker 2: all night. And I think it was like a Friday
- 7:10Speaker 2: in the summer or something. And I found Catcher in
- 7:13Speaker 2: the Rye in Bridget's room and I started reading it.
- 7:16Speaker 2: And I literally stayed up all night until like 4
- 7:18Speaker 2: in the morning. I read the book. I was so
- 7:20Speaker 2: into the book. I read the book cover to cover.
- 7:23Speaker 2: And I finished it and the sun was coming up.
- 7:25Speaker 2: And I said, this is the greatest book I have
- 7:27Speaker 2: ever read in my life. But it's such a– you
- 7:30Speaker 2: have to read it. at that time in your life book. So,
- 7:35Speaker 2: and if I, I'm afraid to reread it now. I
- 7:37Speaker 2: have reread The Catcher in the Rye. I think I
- 7:39Speaker 2: read it again like a couple years later and I
- 7:41Speaker 2: loved it again. But I'm afraid to read it now
- 7:43Speaker 2: because I would just think like Holden's like a whiny
- 7:45Speaker 2: little bitch. I feel like it would be ruined by
- 7:49Speaker 2: my 40-year-old adult eyes. And to me, The Breakfast Club,
- 7:54Speaker 2: I first saw it when I was in high school
- 7:56Speaker 2: and it absolutely blew, I absolutely blew my mind. I
- 7:59Speaker 2: feel like this is like a, such a, watch this
- 8:02Speaker 2: in high school, feel all the feelings. You can relate
- 8:06Speaker 2: to it so much. And I had just like, cause
- 8:09Speaker 2: it came out in 85. So I was in high
- 8:11Speaker 2: school from 1999 to 2004. And I was like, Hey guys,
- 8:18Speaker 2: have you seen this movie, the breakfast club? And everybody
- 8:20Speaker 2: in high school was like, no, what are you talking about?
- 8:22Speaker 2: Cause this is 20 years later. And then I started
- 8:24Speaker 2: showing it to people in high school. I would watch
- 8:26Speaker 2: it with friends and, and like girls I had a
- 8:29Speaker 2: crush on. I would show it to them. and, It
- 8:32Speaker 2: was a thing for me. And then for years, we'll
- 8:35Speaker 2: talk about it later, but for years, my voicemail was
- 8:39Speaker 2: a quote from this movie that I actually recorded off
- 8:42Speaker 2: the TV. So when you called me and I didn't answer,
- 8:46Speaker 2: you would hear John Bender's voice in this movie. Do
- 8:49Speaker 2: you remember that? Do you remember calling me and hearing that?
- 8:51Speaker 1: I don't.
- 8:53Speaker 2: It was my voicemail all through high school and college.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I think I finally had to get rid of it
- 8:58Speaker 2: when I was applying for jobs after college. But I
- 9:04Speaker 2: loved this movie. Sorry, what were you saying?
- 9:06Speaker 1: I'm just surprised to hear, like, that people didn't know
- 9:11Speaker 1: of it. I just felt it was so around. I
- 9:14Speaker 1: don't know. It just was so, like.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Well, I mean, also, you gotta keep in mind, we're, like,
- 9:18Speaker 2: 16-year-olds in 2000. Like, we don't know anything about anything.
- 9:23Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, but I feel like it was, like, on
- 9:24Speaker 5: TV a lot. I just feel like it was just
- 9:26Speaker 5: kind of, like, always... Not that way, but kind of
- 9:28Speaker 5: always there. And so much of it has been, like...
- 9:32Speaker 5: so much of this movie is parodied copied. And it
- 9:36Speaker 5: was kind of funny watching it kind of really like
- 9:41Speaker 5: not knowing what a lot of the scenes were going
- 9:43Speaker 5: to be besides a lot of like the kind of
- 9:45Speaker 5: classic moments and lines I could see why, you know,
- 9:50Speaker 5: we were in the high school around the same time,
- 9:52Speaker 5: why this would hit so much harder in high school.
- 9:54Speaker 5: Because if we think about the high school movies in
- 9:59Speaker 5: our time period, I don't think they were going for this.
- 10:02Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 10:03Speaker 5: There was very few that were going for like, I
- 10:06Speaker 5: think emotional heaviness that were not like, I don't know
- 10:10Speaker 5: how to describe it. Like it seemed like it was
- 10:12Speaker 5: either like American pie or, or, Oh, I mean, it
- 10:16Speaker 5: was just kind of like, it was, that was, that
- 10:18Speaker 5: was the ones you were getting. It was either so
- 10:20Speaker 5: heavy or it was just extremely entertaining. And there was
- 10:24Speaker 5: very few in the middle.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's true. Like, like there would be somebody,
- 10:28Speaker 2: you know, somebody was murdered or something like that. Um,
- 10:32Speaker 2: and this is just like normal kids having dialogue. I mean,
- 10:35Speaker 2: this could be a play. I don't know if it
- 10:37Speaker 2: was ever performed as a play, but it easily. Um,
- 10:41Speaker 2: And God, do I fucking hate American Pie. I always
- 10:44Speaker 2: hated American Pie. People fucking worshipped American Pie when we
- 10:48Speaker 2: were growing up. Ben and Andy loved American Pie. And
- 10:52Speaker 2: I always hated it. It's so mean-spirited. It's so awful. And, like,
- 10:58Speaker 2: it's messages about... It's just gross. And, like, people loved Stifler.
- 11:03Speaker 2: And I've talked about in the podcast before how I always,
- 11:06Speaker 2: always hated Stifler as a character so, so much. American
- 11:12Speaker 2: Pie is just it ages so poorly it's just a
- 11:15Speaker 2: gross awful movie that I'm glad I was right in
- 11:19Speaker 2: the long run but kind of like Wedding Crashers in
- 11:22Speaker 2: a way like Wedding Crashers I don't think is as
- 11:25Speaker 2: bad as American Pie because you're not commuting you're not
- 11:29Speaker 2: I mean like you kind of are in a way
- 11:31Speaker 2: committing a type of sexual assault even with Wedding Crashers
- 11:34Speaker 2: because like in American Pie you're secretly recording women changing
- 11:39Speaker 2: which is just like locker room talk when American Pie
- 11:42Speaker 2: came out. Wedding Crashers, you're falsifying your identity and then
- 11:46Speaker 2: sleeping with a woman while pretending to be somebody else.
- 11:49Speaker 2: So that is some sort of like, that's not great,
- 11:53Speaker 2: but it's not as bad as American Pie is. But anyways, yes,
- 11:56Speaker 2: this is more like, I mean, there's definitely parts of
- 11:59Speaker 2: this movie that don't age well, for sure.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Of course, very much a product of its time.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much a product of its time. Oddly,
- 12:09Speaker 2: so the whole setting of the movie is in a
- 12:12Speaker 2: high school library. Oddly, the high school library works as
- 12:17Speaker 2: a setting and is not dated to me at all
- 12:20Speaker 2: because the library they chose was like modern for the time.
- 12:24Speaker 2: So it's like a 1985-ish built library. Yeah, it's huge.
- 12:29Speaker 2: It looks great. It's very like modern. Whereas when I
- 12:32Speaker 2: went to school, all the schools that I went to
- 12:34Speaker 2: were built in the 60s. So they all had like
- 12:36Speaker 2: asbestos tile and like old– it's like the fact that
- 12:42Speaker 2: a school library looks like it was built in the
- 12:44Speaker 2: 80s to me is modern. Yeah. So it kind of
- 12:48Speaker 2: works for the setting. The clothes also to me aren't
- 12:53Speaker 2: that bad. They're not perfect but they're not like ridiculously
- 12:59Speaker 2: outdated 80s clothes.
- 13:01Speaker 1: And a lot of that has come back around too
- 13:03Speaker 1: in some way.
- 13:04Speaker 2: A lot of it has come back around yeah.
- 13:06Speaker 5: So I think it does like a really again for
- 13:11Speaker 5: every moment that I thought like watching it that I
- 13:13Speaker 5: was like wow this is like definitely like dating it
- 13:17Speaker 5: I think the emotional exposure for the characters is just
- 13:22Speaker 5: really well done where it doesn't like it kind of
- 13:25Speaker 5: erases your feeling of I don't know how to say
- 13:29Speaker 5: it best but like.
- 13:31Speaker 1: You look past it now In a weird way. Yeah.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Yeah. And so this movie was directed by John Hughes.
- 13:42Speaker 2: So I want to talk about, I want to go
- 13:44Speaker 2: over his whole career, but up until this point, this
- 13:46Speaker 2: is Hughes' career so far. So he wrote National Lampoon's
- 13:52Speaker 2: Class Reunion. He wrote Mr. Mom. He wrote National Lampoon's Vacation, classic.
- 13:59Speaker 2: He wrote Nate and Hayes, which I've never heard of.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Then he wrote and directed Sixteen Candles. So that was
- 14:05Speaker 2: like his big break directing-wise.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Love that one. Molly Ringwald.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Very popular. Never was a huge fan of that one,
- 14:12Speaker 2: but I'd have to re-watch it. I haven't seen it
- 14:14Speaker 2: in a long time.
- 14:15Speaker 1: I saw it like first time ever like maybe like
- 14:19Speaker 1: eight years ago.
- 14:21Speaker 2: That does not age well.
- 14:24Speaker 5: No, a lot of it doesn't, but as we go
- 14:27Speaker 5: through this list, a lot of these don't age well.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Not that I would agree.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Then after 16 Candles, the following year, he wrote and
- 14:34Speaker 2: directed The Breakfast Club. So this was basically his second
- 14:38Speaker 2: directed movie. But his entire career, he died young. He
- 14:43Speaker 2: dropped out of a heart attack, I think, in his 40s.
- 14:47Speaker 2: But I want to go through what films he directed
- 14:49Speaker 2: really quick. So he directed 16 Candles, Breakfast Club, Weird Science,
- 14:54Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller.
- 14:54Speaker 1: In the same year?
- 14:56Speaker 2: Same year. It was Weird Science, yeah.
- 14:58Speaker 1: I love Weird Science. Great Bill Paxton. Yeah.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Amazing.
- 15:06Speaker 1: He did not direct Pretty in Pink. No.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Really?
- 15:10Speaker 1: No. Okay. No.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. She's Having a Baby with Kevin Bacon,
- 15:16Speaker 2: which is not really beloved. Uncle Buck. Classic. Curly Sue
- 15:23Speaker 2: was 1991. Jim Belushi, right?
- 15:28Speaker 3: Uh, yes.
- 15:29Speaker 2: And then I don't think he directed another movie. Um,
- 15:35Speaker 2: for writer though. So the movies that I already mentioned,
- 15:38Speaker 2: he also wrote European vacation, weird science, pretty and pink
- 15:42Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller, some kind of wonderful planes, trains, automobiles, just
- 15:45Speaker 2: having a baby at the great outdoors. Uncle Buck Christmas vacation. Um,
- 15:51Speaker 2: home alone. Hello. He wrote home alone, career opportunities, Dutch
- 15:56Speaker 2: curly Sue, Beethoven, the first one.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Dutch is great. I love Dutch.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Dutch is a great one. Beethoven, Home Alone 2, Dennis
- 16:05Speaker 2: the Menace, Baby's Day Out, the remake of Miracle on
- 16:10Speaker 2: 34th Street. He was an uncredited writer in Dumb and Dumber,
- 16:14Speaker 2: which I don't know the backstory of. He wrote the
- 16:18Speaker 2: live-action 101 Dalmatians, Flubber. He wrote Home Alone 3, which
- 16:23Speaker 2: is shocking to me because it's a terrible cash grab
- 16:26Speaker 2: that's not a good movie. um, reached the rock, never
- 16:30Speaker 2: heard of it, and then 2001, the Jean Reno vehicle
- 16:33Speaker 2: that Ben and I loved, we saw it in the
- 16:35Speaker 2: theater in 2001, just visiting, uh, but then he, he
- 16:40Speaker 2: died very young, he died unexpectedly, but he was just
- 16:43Speaker 2: a prolific, like, John Candy, all of his movies involved either, like,
- 16:51Speaker 2: teenagers or children, it was very much like, he grew
- 16:54Speaker 2: up in suburban Chicago. A lot of his movies take
- 16:57Speaker 2: place in suburban Midwest. So that's sort of like the
- 17:01Speaker 2: overarching theme of all of his movies. And he's, he's great.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Like John Hughes is just amazing. I don't know what
- 17:07Speaker 2: else to say about him.
- 17:09Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty crazy. And I haven't seen
- 17:13Speaker 5: a ton of this stuff. Like again, I actually just
- 17:16Speaker 5: saw playing trains and automobiles like two years ago.
- 17:18Speaker 1: I thought that was great.
- 17:19Speaker 5: Um, somebody's like, I remember uncle Buck and I'll create
- 17:21Speaker 5: outdoors as a kid, but, um, It's famous. It's funny
- 17:25Speaker 5: hearing people talk about him because like Chris Columbus talks
- 17:29Speaker 5: about with Home Alone about how like the rumor was
- 17:31Speaker 5: like John Hughes wrote Home Alone in a weekend and
- 17:36Speaker 5: was like this weird thing where he worked on a,
- 17:39Speaker 5: he lived on a farm in Chicago, Illinois.
- 17:42Speaker 1: So like he only worked at night.
- 17:45Speaker 5: So like Chris Columbus talked about how like if you
- 17:47Speaker 5: ever wanted to change it in the script, you had
- 17:48Speaker 5: to call him like starting at like 9 p.m.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Because he only worked through the night. That was his
- 17:54Speaker 1: only thing.
- 17:55Speaker 2: I was reading trivia for Breakfast Club and it said
- 17:58Speaker 2: he wrote this in a day or two days or
- 18:00Speaker 2: something like that.
- 18:01Speaker 1: It's insane. Insane. Yeah, it's pretty... It's interesting how.
- 18:10Speaker 5: He's famous for doing a lot of these kind of
- 18:13Speaker 5: teen movies and stuff like that.
- 18:15Speaker 1: But never....
- 18:18Speaker 5: Like why I'm curious to why he stopped directing stuff.
- 18:22Speaker 5: I mean, he just kept writing. So maybe it was
- 18:23Speaker 5: just kind of like, that was just easier to do.
- 18:25Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 18:26Speaker 5: Um, but yeah, it's pretty fascinating at a time where,
- 18:31Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of people don't like him
- 18:33Speaker 5: or his stuff as much.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Um, first I want to correct myself and say he
- 18:38Speaker 2: was not in his forties. He was in his fifties
- 18:40Speaker 2: when he dropped out of a heart attack. But why,
- 18:42Speaker 2: why don't people, I, I haven't, I just think he's
- 18:44Speaker 2: like almost universally beloved, um, So what do you mean
- 18:47Speaker 2: a lot of people don't like his stuff?
- 18:49Speaker 5: I always had the impression there was a bit of
- 18:51Speaker 5: like– he was like– I'd say like when you talk
- 18:55Speaker 5: about Blumhouse a lot, but like Blumhouse is kind of
- 18:57Speaker 5: like sucking up the oxygen in a lot of horror stuff.
- 18:59Speaker 5: And I think people kind of think that he was
- 19:01Speaker 5: eating up a lot of the oxygen about the talk
- 19:02Speaker 5: of like teen movies in the 80s and stuff like
- 19:04Speaker 5: that when you had– other people like Amy Heckerling, et cetera,
- 19:09Speaker 5: doing stuff. I'm like, like other people doing teen comedies
- 19:12Speaker 5: at the time that were just as interesting doing things
- 19:15Speaker 5: differently to that weren't as praised, um, or successful maybe. Um,
- 19:22Speaker 5: so I just kind of got like this kind of
- 19:23Speaker 5: maybe like recourse later. Um, but I don't think it's
- 19:27Speaker 5: like people like hate him or think like now he's
- 19:31Speaker 5: awful kind of thing.
- 19:31Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 19:32Speaker 5: And also when he passed away, the, People who worked
- 19:36Speaker 5: with him, there was no, in my opinion, from I
- 19:40Speaker 5: heard or read, negativity about him.
- 19:45Speaker 2: So another piece of trivia I read about this is Bender.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Judd Nelson plays Bender. that he was like method method
- 19:52Speaker 2: on the set and was kind of being a dick
- 19:54Speaker 2: to everyone. And John Hughes wanted to fire him because
- 19:57Speaker 2: he didn't, he just didn't appreciate that. And then the
- 19:59Speaker 2: cast had to convince John Hughes, like, no, no, no,
- 20:02Speaker 2: don't fire him. He's just being method. John Hughes was like, well,
- 20:05Speaker 2: I don't care if he's method or not. Like he's
- 20:06Speaker 2: an asshole.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Fair.
- 20:09Speaker 5: I love a joke I always love hearing is, why
- 20:13Speaker 5: is being a method actor always when you're playing an
- 20:16Speaker 5: insane person or an asshole? Why isn't it like, you know, like,
- 20:20Speaker 5: why wasn't someone being method when, like, Robin Williams was
- 20:22Speaker 5: playing Patch Adams? Why wasn't he being method? Like, you
- 20:25Speaker 5: never hear that story. I thought it was the funniest
- 20:27Speaker 5: cop ever. It's always when they're being psychos or pricks
- 20:29Speaker 5: that they're being method.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Well, Lincoln, he was method. Daniel Day-Lewis was method for Lincoln.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Lincoln's not a psycho or an asshole.
- 20:37Speaker 5: But he's like always method. I just think like other people,
- 20:39Speaker 5: like I was doing that method. It's like, I want
- 20:41Speaker 5: it to be a complete piece of shit for a month.
- 20:44Speaker 5: And this is a very permission slip to do it.
- 20:46Speaker 2: It is. It is a permission slip to do it. Uh,
- 20:49Speaker 2: that is, that is a good point.
- 20:50Speaker 3: So yeah.
- 20:53Speaker 2: Um, without further delay, should we get into the movie?
- 20:55Speaker 2: Is there anything else you wanted to talk about first?
- 20:58Speaker 1: Sure.
- 20:59Speaker 5: One other person I want to point out who made
- 21:01Speaker 5: this movie, um, which I was kind of, I guess
- 21:04Speaker 5: part of the beginning of this movie too, is, um,
- 21:05Speaker 5: when the, when the opening credits start, did to me,
- 21:08Speaker 5: I feel like an end credits, like, cause the opening credits,
- 21:11Speaker 5: just like the words black and they're playing the simple
- 21:13Speaker 5: mind song. And I was kind of like, did I
- 21:15Speaker 5: land in the wrong spot with this? Um, so I
- 21:18Speaker 5: did not know that this movie is edited by DD Allen. Um,
- 21:21Speaker 5: DD Allen's a very famous editor.
- 21:22Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Gigi Allen.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Gigi Allen.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Sorry.
- 21:26Speaker 1: In, in between playing shows, Gigi would edit movies.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Um, In between being nude and smearing himself with shit
- 21:35Speaker 2: on stage, he would edit this.
- 21:38Speaker 1: What do you mean he wants a close-up?
- 21:41Speaker 5: So, Dee Dee Allen, a very, very prolific and famous editor.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Read about her life. Very fascinating. Worked from 1948 to 2008. Long,
- 21:52Speaker 1: long time.
- 21:53Speaker 5: Famous for Bonnie and Clyde, Dog Day Afternoon. Working with
- 21:57Speaker 5: Ilya Kazan, Robert Wise, Sidney LeMay. Warren Beatty just a
- 22:02Speaker 5: very very famous and prolific director just so many movies
- 22:08Speaker 5: shout out to the Addams Family by the way but
- 22:11Speaker 5: just I was just kind of I would love to.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Do the Addams Family especially the second one like for
- 22:17Speaker 2: Halloween the second one is fucked but.
- 22:20Speaker 5: Sorry continue a masterpiece my opinion I think it's one
- 22:22Speaker 5: of the best movies ever made it's the only comedy
- 22:25Speaker 5: sequel ever better than its original I can't think of
- 22:28Speaker 5: one that's ever been that way I just can't think
- 22:32Speaker 5: of even a good comedy sequel, one that especially is
- 22:34Speaker 5: better than its first one.
- 22:36Speaker 1: But I just thought it was cool that she did
- 22:38Speaker 1: this movie 40 years into her career.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:45Speaker 2: And it's about a bunch of high schoolers.
- 22:48Speaker 1: She's just like, they have to fire her. One of
- 22:51Speaker 1: these kids complaining about she's ripping a cigarette, cutting it.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Ben got mad at me one time, and this is
- 22:58Speaker 2: related to John Hughes, but I was like, So I
- 23:01Speaker 2: was listening to emo songs, and I love emo. I
- 23:04Speaker 2: still love emo, but I loved emo back in the
- 23:06Speaker 2: day in high school, like, so much, and it was
- 23:09Speaker 2: so emotional to me. And I said to Ben, I
- 23:11Speaker 2: kind of just can't listen to it anymore. And Ben
- 23:13Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean? And I said, well, like,
- 23:16Speaker 2: if you're singing about how you love a girl and
- 23:18Speaker 2: she's your friend and you, like, want to be with
- 23:23Speaker 2: her but you can't bring yourself to do it or
- 23:25Speaker 2: she has a boyfriend who sucks, if you're 16, like, cool.
- 23:28Speaker 2: I get it. I feel you. If you're 38, what
- 23:35Speaker 2: the fuck are you doing? You're kind of a pathetic loser.
- 23:38Speaker 2: And Ben wrote back, oh, so I'm a pathetic loser
- 23:41Speaker 2: for being single at 38? And I was like, no, no, no.
- 23:44Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're a pathetic loser for being single
- 23:47Speaker 2: at 38. I'm saying you would be a pathetic loser
- 23:50Speaker 2: if you had a huge crush on a girl at
- 23:52Speaker 2: work and wouldn't tell her or ask her out and
- 23:55Speaker 2: then would go home and listen to emo music. then
- 23:58Speaker 2: you would be a pathetic loser. But I don't think
- 24:00Speaker 2: you are at 16. But how this is related to
- 24:03Speaker 2: John Hughes is like, part of me, even though I
- 24:05Speaker 2: love John Hughes, is like, dude, you're 45 writing about
- 24:09Speaker 2: emotional teenagers all the time and really hitting the nail
- 24:14Speaker 2: on the head. And it's kind of like, what's wrong
- 24:15Speaker 2: with you? Grow the fuck up.
- 24:18Speaker 5: But I wonder too, when he's older, does he now
- 24:20Speaker 5: have that perspective where he can communicate that?
- 24:22Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Where he can write that
- 24:24Speaker 1: into something a little bit more... Maybe, I don't know.
- 24:28Speaker 5: I think if it was written by an angsty teen,
- 24:31Speaker 5: it might be a mess.
- 24:32Speaker 2: It would be a huge mess if it was written
- 24:34Speaker 2: by an angsty teen.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Yeah, so, okay.
- 24:38Speaker 5: And also, I think something he was always given credit
- 24:40Speaker 5: for was not undermining their emotions either. Not being like,
- 24:44Speaker 5: what the fuck are you complaining about, grow up?
- 24:46Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 24:47Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. And that's the whole thing, because I
- 24:50Speaker 2: do think, well, we'll get into it, but I think
- 24:53Speaker 2: that There's a magic and wonder about being a teenager
- 24:57Speaker 2: and naivete and like simpleness. But there's also being a
- 25:02Speaker 2: teenager I think is very hard. And I've talked about
- 25:05Speaker 2: this on the pod before where my dad and I
- 25:07Speaker 2: debated is it harder to be an adult or a kid.
- 25:09Speaker 2: And I think it's way harder to be a kid
- 25:11Speaker 2: than an adult. Especially now. Especially now more than ever.
- 25:15Speaker 3: But anywho.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Oh, this movie had a $ 1 million budget. Because it's
- 25:23Speaker 2: not an expensive movie to make based on the script.
- 25:26Speaker 2: But also, yeah, he made Pretty in Pink, but John
- 25:28Speaker 2: Hughes wasn't like a slam dunk by any means. This
- 25:31Speaker 2: movie made $ 52 million. That floored me. 52 times the budget.
- 25:41Speaker 1: It's just like, that floored me. I mean, like now
- 25:47Speaker 1: people are like $ 51 million, $ 52 million, like who cares?
- 25:49Speaker 1: But it's like when you think of like the cost here. Like, amazing.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Let me whip out the old inflation calculator. So we're
- 25:59Speaker 2: going to go to CPI, Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
- 26:04Speaker 2: We're going to do $ 1 million in January 1985 compared
- 26:11Speaker 2: to now. So $ 1 million would be, oh, that's actually
- 26:15Speaker 2: not that bad, $ 3. 1 million in today's money. So it
- 26:20Speaker 2: made $ 52 million. So let's probably triple that. 52 million. Okay. 52. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
- 26:33Speaker 2: In 1985 money is.
- 26:37Speaker 2: Is error. You have to use a value less than
- 26:40Speaker 2: 10 million. Okay, thanks, Jackoff. Well, just triple it. So
- 26:44Speaker 2: it would be like making 150-something million on a $ 3
- 26:47Speaker 2: million budget.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Think of this year. So Obsession cost $ 750, 000 and made
- 26:58Speaker 1: $ 512 million.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Oh, SNL just announced its first few weeks of shows
- 27:08Speaker 2: because it's about to start. And the third show, which
- 27:11Speaker 2: I believe is October 10th, is Shane Gillis and Rosalia.
- 27:16Speaker 5: I was so pumped to hear Rosalia is going to
- 27:17Speaker 5: be on there. Can't wait to see it.
- 27:19Speaker 2: And then the next show is Indie. Is it Navarette?
- 27:22Speaker 3: What is it?
- 27:24Speaker 1: I think it's Navarette from what I've seen it pronounced.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Maybe that's wrong too.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Navarette.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Well, whatever. I really love her. She's a great actress
- 27:30Speaker 2: and she's super dope. So I have a crush on
- 27:33Speaker 2: her much like the kid in Obsession. So going back
- 27:39Speaker 2: to Breakfast Club, the movie begins with this song. Don't
- 27:45Speaker 2: you forget about me. I'll be alone, dancing and you
- 27:51Speaker 2: know it, baby. Tell me your troubles and doubts. Giving
- 27:57Speaker 2: me everything right inside and out. Oh, love's strange, so
- 28:02Speaker 2: real in the dark. Okay, I'll stop. Wow. Great song.
- 28:06Speaker 2: And this didn't work for me. There are parts of
- 28:09Speaker 2: this movie, I fucking love this movie, don't get me wrong.
- 28:11Speaker 2: There's parts of this movie that are super cheesy. It
- 28:14Speaker 2: starts off with one of the cheesiest parts. There's a
- 28:16Speaker 2: David Bowie quote that they show at the beginning of
- 28:19Speaker 2: the movie. And the quote is, quote, and these children
- 28:22Speaker 2: that you spit on as they try to change their
- 28:27Speaker 2: worlds are immune to your consultations. They're quite aware of
- 28:32Speaker 2: what they're going through. David Bowie. And then that quote
- 28:36Speaker 2: explodes as if it was on glass. And you hear like, tch.
- 28:42Speaker 5: It's the Friday the 13th Part 3 opening. I think
- 28:45Speaker 5: they were going for that. They were trying to get
- 28:47Speaker 5: that back in there.
- 28:48Speaker 2: So I wrote, this opening, yikes. Just dumb, cheesy, didn't
- 28:54Speaker 2: work for me.
- 28:54Speaker 3: What about you?
- 28:56Speaker 1: Very 80s, yeah.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Very 80s.
- 28:58Speaker 2: And then after you hear, you hear, Let me tell.
- 29:06Speaker 1: You something, Claire. You're running around here.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Why call out Claire Bender would definitely be seriously why
- 29:15Speaker 2: Claire Bender would definitely be stunnered Andy would be stunnered
- 29:19Speaker 2: he would have no tolerance for any of their emotional bullshit.
- 29:22Speaker 1: But Brian you're sitting here crying all day looking around.
- 29:27Speaker 2: You he would temporarily spare Brian as a trick and
- 29:30Speaker 2: then end up stunnering him Brian would think he's in
- 29:32Speaker 2: the clear and then he would.
- 29:34Speaker 1: Get stunnered so.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Okay it so there's a a voiceover that is anthony
- 29:46Speaker 2: michael hall yep and the voiceover is uh schirmer high
- 29:51Speaker 2: school saturday march 24th 1984 schirmer illinois um.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Dear Mr.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice
- 30:03Speaker 2: a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it is we
- 30:06Speaker 2: did wrong. But we think you're crazy for making us
- 30:08Speaker 2: write an essay telling you who we think we are.
- 30:11Speaker 2: You see us as you want to see us, in
- 30:13Speaker 2: the simplest terms and the most convenient definitions. But what
- 30:16Speaker 2: we found out is that each one of us is
- 30:18Speaker 2: a brain and an athlete and a basket case, a
- 30:21Speaker 2: princess and a criminal. Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours,
- 30:26Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. As Cece is being a dinosaur upstairs.
- 30:32Speaker 2: Hold on one moment. So what do you think of
- 30:36Speaker 2: their letter? What are your thoughts on their letter in general?
- 30:39Speaker 1: I like the letter. Do you think it's kind of
- 30:42Speaker 1: a little bit giving away the game by putting it
- 30:44Speaker 1: in the beginning?
- 30:47Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of. I think the letter's not great. I
- 30:51Speaker 2: think it's supposed to be their big statement at the
- 30:53Speaker 2: end of the movie, which they reveal at the beginning.
- 30:56Speaker 2: And it's just like, okay, I'm not... Like, I don't know.
- 31:01Speaker 2: In their teenage brain, they think Vernon's going to pick
- 31:04Speaker 2: this up and.
- 31:04Speaker 3: Be like, whoa.
- 31:06Speaker 1: He seems like he's a pretty approachable person.
- 31:09Speaker 2: I think he's just going to look at it and
- 31:10Speaker 2: be like, what the fuck is this bullshit?
- 31:12Speaker 1: I'll see you next Saturday.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see you all next Saturday, you idiots. This
- 31:16Speaker 2: is not what I asked you to do.
- 31:21Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very, I mean, again, I think at the
- 31:24Speaker 5: beginning and the end is whatever, but I get what
- 31:27Speaker 5: they're trying to say with ideas like you are not
- 31:30Speaker 5: the stereotype that, you know, characteristic that people are putting
- 31:33Speaker 5: you in. Everybody is kind of part of each other, weirdly. Um,
- 31:39Speaker 5: or there's overlap between them.
- 31:41Speaker 2: I think that we should go over the cast now,
- 31:43Speaker 2: just so everybody understands. So, Emilio Estevez, Estevez, plays Andrew Clark,
- 31:53Speaker 2: or Andy, and he's sort of the jock high school wrestler. Um,
- 31:59Speaker 2: Anthony Michael Hall plays Brian Johnson, who's sort of the nerd.
- 32:04Speaker 2: Judd Nelson plays John Bender, who is the delinquent fuck-up
- 32:11Speaker 2: rebel that, like, I don't even know how he hasn't
- 32:14Speaker 2: gotten expelled yet at this point. Molly Ringwald plays Claire,
- 32:20Speaker 2: who's the hot, popular rich girl. And Ally Sheedy plays Allison,
- 32:26Speaker 2: who is the super quiet nobody really even has heard
- 32:31Speaker 2: this girl speak like sits in your class but for
- 32:34Speaker 2: years and you don't say one word to her kind
- 32:36Speaker 2: of weirdo girl um and then of course there is
- 32:42Speaker 2: a couple other characters there's some parents there's the janitor
- 32:44Speaker 2: there's the principal but we'll get to them but that
- 32:46Speaker 2: is the core these are the kids that are coming
- 32:49Speaker 2: to Saturday detention.
- 32:51Speaker 5: Yeah yeah this is that's the iconic very famous poster.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Too of the five of them Yes.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Fantastic.
- 32:59Speaker 1: Very, very famous.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Iconic poster. And they show Bender's locker at the beginning
- 33:05Speaker 2: of this. And yeah, it doesn't age great. There's a
- 33:09Speaker 2: lot of homophobia in this movie, which was of the
- 33:13Speaker 2: time it was realistic.
- 33:15Speaker 5: There's a decent amount of that too in 16 Candles.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:19Speaker 2: And well, 16 Candles, all I can remember is the
- 33:22Speaker 2: Asian racism.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Yes. A big thing in the 80s as well.
- 33:26Speaker 2: A big thing in the 80s. And, uh, and to
- 33:30Speaker 2: an extent now, but, um, I wanted to say, Oh yeah.
- 33:36Speaker 2: It's sort of like, what's the movie, the Christmas movie,
- 33:39Speaker 2: the Ryan Reynolds, just friends with him and Amy smart.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Yep.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Great movie. But him and his brother, who's the guy
- 33:46Speaker 2: from Freddie versus Jason, uh, just constantly call each other
- 33:49Speaker 2: gay throughout the whole movie. And it's just so cringe
- 33:52Speaker 2: to watch now. But at the time that was completely realistic.
- 33:56Speaker 2: That's like, how everybody interacted at the time.
- 33:59Speaker 1: That was the sense of humor.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Yes, that was the sense of humor. So Bender's locker says,
- 34:05Speaker 2: open this locker and you die. Homophobic slur. Were you
- 34:13Speaker 2: going to say something?
- 34:15Speaker 1: No, I had not seen this part before, so I
- 34:17Speaker 1: was like, whoa.
- 34:18Speaker 2: I was like, alright. Already expelled in 2026. Yes. Molly
- 34:25Speaker 2: Ringwald pulls up her dad drops her off he's in
- 34:28Speaker 2: a BMW the dad is wearing a Burberry scarf and
- 34:32Speaker 2: she says I can't believe you couldn't get me out
- 34:34Speaker 2: of this which would indicate that's what she expects in
- 34:39Speaker 2: life you know nice car this is I want to
- 34:42Speaker 2: go through like when we get to it the reveal
- 34:46Speaker 2: of why they are in detention because some of them
- 34:48Speaker 2: are like a slow burn Molly Ringwald is revealed immediately
- 34:51Speaker 2: her dad says well this is what happens when you
- 34:54Speaker 2: cut class to go shopping so that's why she got
- 34:56Speaker 2: Saturday detention.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Did your school do Saturday detention? Any schools you went to?
- 35:02Speaker 2: Just took the words out of my mouth. No, I've
- 35:04Speaker 2: never heard of a Saturday detention except for this movie.
- 35:07Speaker 5: Wow.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Okay.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Did you?
- 35:11Speaker 1: I did. My brother went to BC high and they
- 35:13Speaker 1: did it. They called them ready.
- 35:14Speaker 5: They called it jugs, which stood for justice under God.
- 35:16Speaker 5: And you had to go Saturday mornings.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Oh man.
- 35:19Speaker 2: Did he get Saturday detentions?
- 35:21Speaker 1: I think so.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:22Speaker 1: I think so. I'll have to ask him.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Did you get detention in high school?
- 35:26Speaker 1: I did senior year.
- 35:27Speaker 5: I was late a lot going into school. So you
- 35:29Speaker 5: had to get, you had to go, but it was,
- 35:32Speaker 5: you were at school for like a half an hour.
- 35:34Speaker 1: Yeah. It wasn't crazy. Yeah.
- 35:35Speaker 2: So if you were late one time, you had to go.
- 35:38Speaker 2: If you were late 10 times, you had to go.
- 35:40Speaker 1: If you were late one time. Yes.
- 35:43Speaker 5: And the teacher decided to give you, we called it
- 35:46Speaker 5: sessions in Watertown and you got it that way. But
- 35:51Speaker 5: at Trinity, my freshman year, if your grades were not
- 35:55Speaker 5: a certain, I'll call them range, you got this thing
- 36:00Speaker 5: called period eight and you had to stay after school
- 36:03Speaker 5: for an hour in the cafeteria.
- 36:07Speaker 1: And do homework there. So you were at school for
- 36:11Speaker 1: an extra hour and I got period eight two of
- 36:17Speaker 1: the four semesters, whatever it is.
- 36:23Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't really ever remember getting, I got to, like,
- 36:28Speaker 2: one time a teacher said that I got to detention
- 36:30Speaker 2: because they were mad in the moment at me, and
- 36:33Speaker 2: then my friend Mike told me, like, they didn't really
- 36:36Speaker 2: mean it, don't show up, like, it'll be fine, but
- 36:39Speaker 2: me being the scaredy cat, like, good kid I was,
- 36:43Speaker 2: I showed up for the detention after school, and, like,
- 36:45Speaker 2: the teacher had gone home, and nobody was in the classroom,
- 36:47Speaker 2: so it was completely, like, an empty thing, like, you
- 36:51Speaker 2: just got detention, and then, no, I didn't actually I
- 36:53Speaker 2: got sent to the principal's office one time. Did you
- 36:57Speaker 2: ever get sent to the principal's office?
- 36:59Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 37:00Speaker 2: In high school?
- 37:02Speaker 1: High school, yes. Ready for this? Trinity for not wearing
- 37:09Speaker 1: a belt. Awesome.
- 37:14Speaker 2: Catholic school, man.
- 37:18Speaker 5: I actually don't think so, but middle school and elementary school, definitely.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Yeah, not high school, I don't think.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Just because of it, you were kind of, I think
- 37:24Speaker 2: it's so funny to think of you now, but you
- 37:26Speaker 2: were like a hellion when you were a little kid.
- 37:28Speaker 5: Just, it was, but not like violent. It was just
- 37:32Speaker 5: more like just couldn't sit still. Just yelling and screaming
- 37:34Speaker 5: all day.
- 37:34Speaker 1: It's like that, yeah.
- 37:35Speaker 2: So the reason I got into it.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Which hasn't changed. What? Which hasn't changed. I still scream
- 37:41Speaker 1: in my car every day. It's the best.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Well, so do I. The one time I got sent
- 37:46Speaker 2: to the principal's office, I was in French class, and
- 37:51Speaker 2: all teachers hated Dan Freeman. My friend Dan Freeman, I
- 37:54Speaker 2: don't know what it was about him, but he was
- 37:56Speaker 2: a really, really nice kid. He was honestly a good,
- 38:00Speaker 2: nice kid. And every teacher and parent hated him and
- 38:06Speaker 2: thought he was a complete scumbag. And I don't know why.
- 38:11Speaker 2: But one time in French class, I was talking... And
- 38:15Speaker 2: I was like messing with Freeman and talking to somebody else.
- 38:18Speaker 2: And Freeman was like whispering, like, please leave me alone. Like,
- 38:20Speaker 2: I don't want to get in trouble. And then the,
- 38:23Speaker 2: our teacher, our French class teacher, who was just a bitch. Um,
- 38:27Speaker 2: she said, Dan Freeman, go to the principal's office. Cause
- 38:30Speaker 2: she hated Freeman. Just like, like would do anything to
- 38:33Speaker 2: just get him in trouble. So then I actually stood
- 38:36Speaker 2: up and said to her, it was not Freeman that
- 38:39Speaker 2: was talking. He was sitting there doing nothing. It was
- 38:42Speaker 2: entirely me. Cause I wouldn't let, Freeman take the fall
- 38:45Speaker 2: for that even though I didn't want to go to
- 38:47Speaker 2: the principal's office and then her response was of course
- 38:50Speaker 2: she said well Mr. Cuff you can go with him
- 38:54Speaker 2: so he still has to.
- 38:55Speaker 5: Go but now she can't back down now yeah.
- 38:57Speaker 2: Because I did the right thing and now we both
- 39:00Speaker 2: go and then we went to the principal's office and
- 39:04Speaker 2: they were like why are you here I said Mrs.
- 39:07Speaker 2: oh I don't want to say her name but because
- 39:09Speaker 2: I just called her a bitch but I said she
- 39:12Speaker 2: sent us why what did you do And I said, well,
- 39:14Speaker 2: Freeman literally did nothing. Like I was talking to another
- 39:17Speaker 2: kid and she blamed Freeman. And then I stood up
- 39:19Speaker 2: and said, it wasn't Freeman.
- 39:20Speaker 3: It was me.
- 39:21Speaker 2: So she said, both of you go. And then the
- 39:23Speaker 2: principal literally just said like, just go back to class.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Like did absolutely nothing. Said just go back to class.
- 39:28Speaker 1: Wait, we're going to hear. i think uh our pa
- 39:31Speaker 1: is saying that we're getting a call from france.
- 39:35Speaker 2: Oh no from her she so the french teacher lives
- 39:38Speaker 2: in france i'm not following.
- 39:39Speaker 1: She finally she finally made it yeah.
- 39:42Speaker 2: She lived out her dream by moving to france she
- 39:44Speaker 2: can move to france um for all i care but
- 39:47Speaker 2: anyways So yeah, Saturday detention, the old Saturday detention. We'll
- 39:51Speaker 2: find out why throughout the course of the movie. Um, Andy,
- 39:56Speaker 2: who's Emilio Estevez, the jock, his dad says, listen, I
- 40:00Speaker 2: don't really care that you got in trouble and I
- 40:02Speaker 2: don't care about what you did. That's just like guys
- 40:05Speaker 2: being guys and horsing around, but you can't get in
- 40:08Speaker 2: trouble because you'll blow your ride to college because you're
- 40:10Speaker 2: so good at wrestling. You don't want to fuck that
- 40:13Speaker 2: up and not get into college because you got, because
- 40:15Speaker 2: you got in trouble or you got expelled from school. So,
- 40:18Speaker 2: His dad's like, that's the only reason I care. Yeah.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Did you look up who plays Andy's father?
- 40:25Speaker 2: So I recognized him, but I can't remember from what.
- 40:28Speaker 5: So you just mentioned this movie because we did the
- 40:31Speaker 5: Dark Knight trilogy.
- 40:33Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a hint.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 40:35Speaker 2: It's the crooked cop from the bar. That two-faced kill.
- 40:39Speaker 1: It's my day off. Yes.
- 40:41Speaker 2: It's my day. He didn't eat. It's Warts.
- 40:43Speaker 1: It's Wurtz. Yeah. I was like, I'm like, this guy's
- 40:47Speaker 1: face looks so familiar. I saw his name like Ron Dean.
- 40:50Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, shit.
- 40:53Speaker 2: Wow.
- 40:54Speaker 1: Wow.
- 40:54Speaker 2: That is crazy. I did not know that.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Bender, played by Judd Nelson, shows up on foot. He
- 41:04Speaker 2: does not even get a ride. And he walks right
- 41:06Speaker 2: in front of a car and almost gets hit. Ally
- 41:09Speaker 2: Sheedy's parents, Allison, drop her off and say nothing to
- 41:13Speaker 2: her at all. It's like they don't interact.
- 41:15Speaker 1: They never go inside her car. Yep.
- 41:17Speaker 2: They what?
- 41:18Speaker 1: We never go inside that car. Every other person we
- 41:21Speaker 1: go into the car but her. Yeah. Yes.
- 41:23Speaker 2: And there's no interaction between them. They just stop the car.
- 41:27Speaker 2: They don't turn around. They don't say anything. She walks
- 41:29Speaker 2: out and doesn't say goodbye. Just shuts the door. And
- 41:34Speaker 2: then do we get to Brian? Did I miss Brian's
- 41:38Speaker 2: drop off?
- 41:39Speaker 1: You did.
- 41:41Speaker 2: So Brian's drop, but a couple of things about Brian is, uh,
- 41:45Speaker 2: is who does John Hughes play? Is John, John Hughes,
- 41:48Speaker 2: Brian's dad, John Hughes is somebody's.
- 41:50Speaker 5: Dad, but at the end pickup, the mom is dropping
- 41:54Speaker 5: him off now.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:55Speaker 2: The must. So explain the Brian's drop off. Brian's the
- 41:58Speaker 2: nerd Anthony at Michael Hall character.
- 42:00Speaker 5: So he's, um, getting dropped off by his mom with
- 42:04Speaker 5: his sister sitting in between them in the front seat. Uh, again,
- 42:07Speaker 5: eighties right there. Um, And I forget what he says
- 42:13Speaker 5: to his mom about like this being ridiculous or whatnot.
- 42:17Speaker 5: And she's like, well, just don't let this happen again.
- 42:19Speaker 5: It won't be a problem. Um, and the sister is like, yeah.
- 42:24Speaker 5: And then he just gets out of the car. He
- 42:25Speaker 5: is the quickest one. There's no real, like a lot
- 42:28Speaker 5: of time spent on his.
- 42:29Speaker 2: But the mom, you can tell the mom's like a
- 42:32Speaker 2: bit of a tiger mom.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
- 42:35Speaker 2: She's just like, you better. He says, oh yeah. He says,
- 42:40Speaker 2: uh she says to him you better figure out a
- 42:42Speaker 2: way to study and like get work.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Done that's right yes you're not even.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Allowed to they just make you sit there and she
- 42:48Speaker 2: goes mister you find a way that's right that's right
- 42:52Speaker 2: um so Emilio Estevez comes in and sits with Claire
- 42:56Speaker 2: so it's like the jock is sitting with the hot
- 42:57Speaker 2: girl um Anthony Michael Hall sits alone at a table
- 43:02Speaker 2: and then Bender just being an asshole and that's another
- 43:05Speaker 2: thing about this movie when I first saw this when
- 43:07Speaker 2: I was 16 I loved John Bender I thought he
- 43:11Speaker 2: was a fucking god watching this now I'm like he
- 43:15Speaker 2: just sucks like he's just awful um so he.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Very tough to hold this wall in this movie in
- 43:22Speaker 1: my opinion yeah.
- 43:23Speaker 2: But the performance is great like Jed Nelson.
- 43:25Speaker 5: He does a great job absolutely I mean everyone does
- 43:27Speaker 5: a very good job in this I just think it's
- 43:28Speaker 5: like the character and the way it's written is like
- 43:31Speaker 5: would you understand this person yeah.
- 43:34Speaker 2: So he uh he's walking in he's touching everything And
- 43:39Speaker 2: he goes up to where Brian is sitting and says, move,
- 43:43Speaker 2: I'm going to sit here, which is such a dick move.
- 43:45Speaker 2: And then Brian just says, okay, and gets up and moves.
- 43:49Speaker 2: And then Ally Sheedy walks in, Allison, and she does
- 43:52Speaker 2: this huge loop in the distance around everybody, around the statue,
- 43:56Speaker 2: and then sits in the back alone. So it's clearly
- 43:58Speaker 2: like she is off alone. She doesn't talk to anybody.
- 44:02Speaker 2: She doesn't have friends. She doesn't even know how to
- 44:04Speaker 2: interact with people.
- 44:05Speaker 1: And she's also scoping them out.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Definitely scoping them out and it's revealed that saturday detention
- 44:13Speaker 2: is nine hours.
- 44:15Speaker 5: This blew my mind i was like they're here for
- 44:18Speaker 5: an entire work day it blew my mind.
- 44:21Speaker 2: Not they're here from i think it's seven in the
- 44:23Speaker 2: morning to four in the afternoon that would be nine
- 44:28Speaker 2: hours that is.
- 44:29Speaker 5: At least they start early i guess that is a
- 44:32Speaker 5: lot to just sit in a library and do nothing.
- 44:36Speaker 2: And then Mr. Vernon comes in.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Now, is Mr.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Vernon just a teacher or is he the principal?
- 44:40Speaker 1: I thought he was just a teacher. That's what I thought.
- 44:44Speaker 2: He's just a teacher that happened to be assigned the
- 44:46Speaker 2: Saturday detention, which also has got to suck for a teacher.
- 44:49Speaker 2: You don't want to do the Saturday detention.
- 44:51Speaker 1: That was kind of my whole kind of thing with
- 44:53Speaker 1: this was like the way Vernon talked. I'm like, you
- 44:55Speaker 1: got to do this, too. Like, you got to be here. Like,
- 44:59Speaker 1: I would negotiate with Bender to do none of this
- 45:02Speaker 1: just to not have to come in here next Saturday.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's a really good point, Ryan. He says,
- 45:10Speaker 2: today you cannot talk or move from your seats, and you,
- 45:13Speaker 2: pointed Bender, cannot sleep. You have to write a 1,000-word
- 45:18Speaker 2: essay about what is it about, like why you're here
- 45:22Speaker 2: and what you learned.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Who am I?
- 45:24Speaker 2: Who am I? Yeah, yeah. And he says, are there
- 45:27Speaker 2: any questions? And Bender asks, yes. Does Barry Manilow know
- 45:32Speaker 2: you raid his wardrobe? And great response by Vernon. He says,
- 45:36Speaker 2: I can answer that question for you, Mr. Bender, next Saturday.
- 45:41Speaker 2: You mess with the bull, young man, you get the horns.
- 45:46Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 45:48Speaker 2: So Barry Manilow, Vernon's suit is ridiculous in this movie.
- 45:52Speaker 1: Yes.
- 45:53Speaker 2: It's the most daily ridiculous thing, yeah. Bender then starts
- 45:59Speaker 2: singing the guitar riff from, is it like Indiegogo de Vida?
- 46:04Speaker 1: Or– Is it that? Yeah, wow.
- 46:06Speaker 2: No, it's a song like dude– no, not– is it
- 46:10Speaker 2: Indie Guy? It doesn't matter.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Oh, it's Buckle My Shoes. Oh, yeah.
- 46:16Speaker 2: It's like he's sitting there like buckle my shoes, buckle
- 46:18Speaker 2: your shoes, buckle your shoes.
- 46:19Speaker 1: He actually would do that. He actually definitely would do that. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
- 46:25Speaker 2: And he starts off by like– so I guess this
- 46:28Speaker 2: is a very big high school and none of them
- 46:30Speaker 2: really even know each other. Like they don't even know
- 46:32Speaker 2: each other's names.
- 46:35Speaker 1: It's revealed. Later, it's... More connections are revealed later. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Bender says, oh, shit, what are we supposed to do
- 46:46Speaker 2: if we take a piss? Well, I guess if you
- 46:48Speaker 2: gotta go, you gotta go. And he unzips his fly.
- 46:52Speaker 2: And they're all disgusted. And Andy says, you're not urinating
- 46:56Speaker 2: in here, man.
- 46:57Speaker 1: I love his response. Don't talk, don't talk, or it
- 46:59Speaker 1: crawls back up. Insane.
- 47:02Speaker 2: You whip it out and you're dead before the first
- 47:04Speaker 2: drop hits the floor. Andy's pretty cringe in this whole movie.
- 47:08Speaker 1: A little bit too, yeah. A little bit too try hard.
- 47:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:12Speaker 2: And then Bender, love it, goes for a gay joke,
- 47:16Speaker 2: says to Andy, you're pretty sexy when you get angry.
- 47:19Speaker 2: And that's not, that to me is not homophobic. I
- 47:22Speaker 2: think that does age well. He's doing it because he
- 47:24Speaker 2: knows Andy is homophobic.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, he knows it'll make him mad. Yeah. Yes.
- 47:29Speaker 2: So he turns to Bender turns to Brian and says, hey, homeboy.
- 47:33Speaker 2: And for some reason, I just really was amused by that,
- 47:35Speaker 2: calling him homeboy. And Brian points to himself and says, like,
- 47:41Speaker 2: are you talking to me? He says, yeah, why don't
- 47:43Speaker 2: you go close the door so we can get the
- 47:45Speaker 2: prom queen impregnated? Doesn't age great, Brian.
- 47:50Speaker 3: Doesn't age great.
- 47:52Speaker 1: Again, he's just saying anything possible to get rise out
- 47:54Speaker 1: of anybody. Yeah.
- 47:56Speaker 2: He's just trying to piss everybody off. And Andy says,
- 47:58Speaker 2: if I lose my temper, you're totaled, man. And Bender says, oh, totally?
- 48:03Speaker 2: Andy says, totally. Clary tells him to shut up. And
- 48:10Speaker 2: Brian says, excuse me, everyone, I think we should just
- 48:12Speaker 2: write our own papers. Because he's a loser. He says,
- 48:17Speaker 2: just because you live in detention every Saturday doesn't mean
- 48:20Speaker 2: you need to be paying the ass, so knock it off.
- 48:23Speaker 2: And Bender says, it's a free country.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Can I ask a question?
- 48:27Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Why does Bender go to this?
- 48:31Speaker 2: Why does Bender go to detention?
- 48:34Speaker 1: Yeah. The way Bender behaves, why would he ever show
- 48:37Speaker 1: up for this?
- 48:38Speaker 3: Right.
- 48:39Speaker 2: If he's not full of shit, wouldn't he just skip detention?
- 48:43Speaker 5: What are they going to do to him? They treat
- 48:45Speaker 5: him like a lost cause. He feels like a lost cause.
- 48:47Speaker 5: Why the fuck would he go to this?
- 48:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 48:50Speaker 2: If he's truly not scared of anybody and doesn't care
- 48:52Speaker 2: and he's like a total rebel, then yeah, why wouldn't
- 48:55Speaker 2: he just skip detention?
- 48:57Speaker 5: Maybe the home life is that bad i could maybe
- 48:59Speaker 5: see that being the case that it's just like there
- 49:01Speaker 5: was a reprieve maybe but the whole time i was
- 49:04Speaker 5: kind of like why is he here yeah.
- 49:06Speaker 2: A reprieve from home or maybe if he doesn't go
- 49:09Speaker 2: to detention they're gonna call his parents and then his
- 49:11Speaker 2: dad's gonna beat the shit out.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Of him that's yeah the other one too yeah yeah.
- 49:16Speaker 2: Um bender asked claire and andy are you boyfriend and
- 49:19Speaker 2: girlfriend are you going to steady? And he says, come on, Sporto,
- 49:23Speaker 2: level with me. Did you slip her the hot beef injection?
- 49:27Speaker 2: Doesn't age well, Ryan. Bender does not age well. Claire says,
- 49:33Speaker 2: go to hell. And then Andy says, you know what, Bender?
- 49:37Speaker 2: This is very important, foreshadowing. You know what, Bender? You
- 49:40Speaker 2: don't even count. I mean, if you disappeared forever, it
- 49:43Speaker 2: wouldn't make a difference. You may as well not even
- 49:46Speaker 2: exist at this school. One of the things that I
- 49:50Speaker 2: think Judd Nelson does a great job at is his
- 49:54Speaker 2: facial expressions in some of these scenes. Because he's like
- 49:57Speaker 2: this total badass that doesn't give a shit when anybody
- 49:59Speaker 2: thinks about him. But he clearly does. And they cut
- 50:03Speaker 2: to him after Andy says this. And you can tell
- 50:05Speaker 2: he genuinely is hurt by this.
- 50:08Speaker 1: They do a very good job of showing cracks in
- 50:10Speaker 1: everybody's armor. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- 50:13Speaker 2: And he says, well, I have a solution. I'll run
- 50:15Speaker 2: out and join the wrestling team, the prep club, student council.
- 50:19Speaker 2: Andy says, no one would have you. And Claire says,
- 50:24Speaker 2: you know why you knock everything? It's because you're afraid.
- 50:28Speaker 2: And Bender says, you're right. That's why I'm not heavy
- 50:30Speaker 2: into activities. She says, you don't belong anywhere. anywhere so
- 50:36Speaker 2: you dump all over everything bender says it wouldn't have
- 50:40Speaker 2: anything to do with you activities people being complete assholes
- 50:43Speaker 2: would it which is a good point and then so
- 50:47Speaker 2: it's like oh okay so you're saying it's me maybe
- 50:50Speaker 2: i just don't like you people and claire says well
- 50:52Speaker 2: you don't know any of us also a good point
- 50:54Speaker 2: by claire yeah bender says well i don't know lepers
- 50:58Speaker 2: and i'm not gonna run out and join one of
- 51:00Speaker 2: their fucking clubs uh I think that it's showing how
- 51:08Speaker 2: they all are willfully falling into these buckets. Brian says,
- 51:14Speaker 2: I have a lot of activities going on. I'm in
- 51:18Speaker 2: the physics club. And Bender says to Claire, well, Claire,
- 51:22Speaker 2: if you're so into activities, why don't you join the
- 51:24Speaker 2: physics club? And she says, well, because that's an academic club.
- 51:28Speaker 2: And those aren't the same as the other clubs. And
- 51:31Speaker 2: Bender points out, oh, so you're saying dorks like him
- 51:35Speaker 2: join academic clubs but cool people don't which is exactly
- 51:39Speaker 2: what Claire is saying yeah so he says you know
- 51:44Speaker 2: Bender says well all these clubs are social even Brian's
- 51:47Speaker 2: club the physics club is demented and sad but it's
- 51:51Speaker 2: a social club and he says yeah I mean Brian's
- 51:57Speaker 2: like yeah you know we talk in the physics club
- 51:59Speaker 2: there are other kids it is social I mean we
- 52:01Speaker 2: have a big banquet at the end of the year
- 52:02Speaker 2: at the Hilton Bender says, you get loaded at the Hilton.
- 52:05Speaker 2: You party.
- 52:06Speaker 3: Well, no, no.
- 52:07Speaker 2: We don't get loaded. We just get dressed up. We
- 52:09Speaker 2: don't get high. And then Claire says, only burners like
- 52:12Speaker 2: you get high. Yeah, go ahead.
- 52:18Speaker 5: This is the beginning of this movie's whole handle on marijuana,
- 52:22Speaker 5: which was fascinating to see.
- 52:25Speaker 2: Rough, rough marijuana sequence later on. The whole handling of
- 52:30Speaker 2: marijuana in this movie is bizarre.
- 52:33Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. Yeah.
- 52:36Speaker 2: And basically everybody's like, hey, we should quiet down. Andy says,
- 52:41Speaker 2: if we get in more trouble and we have to
- 52:43Speaker 2: come back on another Saturday, I'm not going to miss
- 52:44Speaker 2: a meet, a wrestling meet, on account of you boneheads.
- 52:48Speaker 2: And Bender laughs and says, oh, that would be terrible,
- 52:52Speaker 2: missing a wrestling meet. And then Andy says, you wouldn't
- 52:55Speaker 2: know anything about it. And I really wish I could
- 52:58Speaker 2: say the line, but he says a homophobic slur.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 53:02Speaker 2: You wouldn't know anything about it, friend. I almost recorded
- 53:07Speaker 2: that and sent it to you, but I thought, why bother?
- 53:12Speaker 2: And Bender says, I have such a deep admiration for
- 53:15Speaker 2: guys in tights that roll around on the floor with
- 53:17Speaker 2: other guys. And Andy says, you just don't appreciate it
- 53:23Speaker 2: because you don't have goals. Brian asks, do you wear
- 53:27Speaker 2: tights in wrestling? And Andy's essentially like, Yeah, and then
- 53:31Speaker 2: even Brian's like, that is kind of gay.
- 53:35Speaker 1: It's a uniform.
- 53:37Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a uniform. So the door is propped open,
- 53:40Speaker 2: so Vernon leaves the room. He's like doing whatever, but
- 53:43Speaker 2: he wants the door propped open so he can hear them,
- 53:45Speaker 2: make sure they're not talking. Bender goes over and rips
- 53:48Speaker 2: the screw out of the door that's propping the door open,
- 53:51Speaker 2: and then he hides it in his pocket. So Vernon
- 53:55Speaker 2: comes in because he hears the door close, and he's yelling,
- 53:58Speaker 2: why is this door closed? Why is this door closed?
- 54:00Speaker 2: And this is the first indication where he's been really
- 54:05Speaker 2: mean to Molly Ringwald. He's sexually harassed Molly Ringwald. And
- 54:09Speaker 2: then Molly Ringwald says to Vernon, sir, why would someone
- 54:12Speaker 2: steal a screw? And I was like, wait, what? Why
- 54:15Speaker 2: is she defending Bender and like helping him out?
- 54:20Speaker 5: I think this is like the whole, like they unite
- 54:21Speaker 5: moment where they all are like playing with it. Um,
- 54:25Speaker 5: cause I think the weird thing is like, They know
- 54:29Speaker 5: if they rat out Bender.
- 54:31Speaker 1: They're all there next week.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Well, I think they would be rewarded if they rat
- 54:37Speaker 2: out Bender, honestly.
- 54:39Speaker 1: Really?
- 54:40Speaker 2: I think that if they say Bender has the screw
- 54:43Speaker 2: in his pocket, do you think if Andy or Brian
- 54:46Speaker 2: or Claire said Bender has the screw in his pocket,
- 54:48Speaker 2: that Vernon would be mad at them and make them
- 54:50Speaker 2: come in next Saturday?
- 54:51Speaker 5: Vernon's constant reaction to Brian is, shut up. Every time
- 54:56Speaker 5: he looks at him, it just seems to be don't
- 54:57Speaker 5: talk anymore.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Even Vernon thinks he's a huge loser. Yeah. But... So
- 55:04Speaker 2: then Vernon puts the magazine rack in the doorway, and
- 55:09Speaker 2: Bender points out, that's very clever, sir, but what if
- 55:12Speaker 2: there's a fire? And he's like, you're right, you're right. Andy,
- 55:15Speaker 2: get up. Get up and help me move the magazine rack.
- 55:17Speaker 2: And this is one of my favorite Bender lines. He
- 55:19Speaker 2: says it as if he's like a political leader giving
- 55:22Speaker 2: a speech.
- 55:22Speaker 3: In a rally.
- 55:23Speaker 2: He says, I love this. He can't get up, sir.
- 55:25Speaker 2: If he gets up, we'll all get up. It'll be anarchy.
- 55:29Speaker 2: I love that.
- 55:29Speaker 1: I love that. They laugh so hard. I love that. Yeah.
- 55:32Speaker 2: Yeah. And Andy can't move the magazine rack. And Vernon says,
- 55:38Speaker 2: I expected much more from a varsity letterman, which reminded
- 55:42Speaker 2: me of The Sopranos.
- 55:44Speaker 5: It seems to me where he was having Andy help
- 55:45Speaker 5: him prop the door open with that like library bookshelf.
- 55:48Speaker 5: Then when Bender pointed that out, he's like, he blamed,
- 55:51Speaker 5: he said it was like his Andy's idea.
- 55:53Speaker 1: Get, get, get this out of here. Like it was
- 55:54Speaker 1: like Andy's, like it was Andy's fault, even though it
- 55:56Speaker 1: was not. Yeah.
- 55:59Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And Ryan, we're going to end part one
- 56:02Speaker 2: with this exchange. Sorry, we were paused for a second,
- 56:05Speaker 2: but you're right. This was, this scene was spoofed and
- 56:08Speaker 2: not another teen movie. And the actor who plays Vernon is,
- 56:11Speaker 2: plays vernon again and on another teen.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Movie it's great it's great.
- 56:17Speaker 2: So basically uh he's like vernon's basically like hey you
- 56:22Speaker 2: know uh bender i have a crush on you we
- 56:24Speaker 2: should kiss no he says um all right like i'm
- 56:29Speaker 2: leaving you in here no more funny business and then
- 56:31Speaker 2: bender says under his breath eat my shorts very bart
- 56:35Speaker 2: simpson of him got him what was that And Bender
- 56:39Speaker 2: knows he's being called out and he can't back down
- 56:41Speaker 2: and be a P word. So he says, I just
- 56:46Speaker 2: said eat my shorts. You just bought yourself another Saturday, mister. Oh, Christ.
- 56:53Speaker 2: You just bought yourself one more there. Well, I'm free
- 56:56Speaker 2: this Saturday after that. But beyond that, I'm going to
- 56:58Speaker 2: have to check my calendar.
- 57:00Speaker 3: Good.
- 57:01Speaker 2: Because it's going to be filled. We'll keep going.
- 57:03Speaker 3: You want another one? Say the word. Say the word.
- 57:06Speaker 2: Instead of going to prison, you'll come here. Are you done?
- 57:10Speaker 3: No.
- 57:11Speaker 2: I'm doing society a favor. So that's another one.
- 57:15Speaker 3: Right now.
- 57:15Speaker 2: I've got you for the rest of your natural born life.
- 57:18Speaker 2: If you don't watch your step, you want another one? Yes.
- 57:21Speaker 2: You got it. You got another one right there. That's
- 57:23Speaker 2: another one, pal. And then Claire's like, this is when
- 57:26Speaker 2: keeping it real goes wrong. This is what Claire is
- 57:29Speaker 2: trying to explain to Bender. This is when keeping it
- 57:31Speaker 2: real goes wrong. So Claire says, please stop. And Vernon says, okay.
- 57:38Speaker 1: It's so funny.
- 57:39Speaker 2: Yeah she mouths please stop and vernon says are you
- 57:42Speaker 2: through not even close bud good you got another saturday
- 57:47Speaker 2: right there do you really think i give a shit
- 57:50Speaker 2: so now he's just pressing like okay like the the
- 57:53Speaker 2: nuclear bomb like the the nuclear codes the button has
- 57:56Speaker 2: been pressed like yeah another you through how many is
- 58:01Speaker 2: that that's seven including the one when we first came
- 58:04Speaker 2: in and you asked mr vernon oh sorry this is
- 58:06Speaker 2: brian How many is that? And then Brian says, it's seven,
- 58:10Speaker 2: including the one when we first came in and you
- 58:12Speaker 2: asked Mr. Vernon whether Barry Manilow had raided his closet.
- 58:17Speaker 2: Now it's eight. You stay out of it. That's what
- 58:19Speaker 2: Vernon says to Brian. But excuse me, sir, it's seven.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Shut up, peewee. You're a mind bender. For two months,
- 58:27Speaker 2: I got you.
- 58:28Speaker 5: Two months of Saturday detention, nine hours each day.
- 58:32Speaker 2: Just because for what? To prove a point and just
- 58:34Speaker 2: be Billy Brown-esque? And Bender says, what can I say?
- 58:37Speaker 2: I'm thrilled. And Vernon says, oh, I'm sure that's exactly
- 58:40Speaker 2: what you want these people to believe. You know something, Bender?
- 58:42Speaker 2: You got to spend a little more time trying to
- 58:44Speaker 2: do something with yourself and a little less time trying
- 58:46Speaker 2: to impress people. You might be better off. All right,
- 58:49Speaker 2: that's it. I'm going to be right outside these doors.
- 58:51Speaker 2: The next time I have to come in here, I'm
- 58:53Speaker 2: cracking skulls. And he leaves and slams the door shut.
- 59:00Speaker 2: And the moment the door slams shut, because it's very,
- 59:03Speaker 2: very loud, Bender screams, fuck you. And Vernon pauses like,
- 59:08Speaker 2: did I, did I hear that? but he can't really
- 59:11Speaker 2: be sure he.
- 59:12Speaker 1: Did yeah it's yeah.
- 59:14Speaker 2: So he's like all right forget it he's already here
- 59:17Speaker 2: for two months I'm just gonna leave.
- 59:19Speaker 5: I also was I was blown away that he was
- 59:21Speaker 5: unsure of that it was so insanely loud how did
- 59:24Speaker 5: he not know it was very very loud it was.
- 59:27Speaker 2: Brian And then they made seven sequels, and each sequel
- 59:32Speaker 2: is the following Saturday.
- 59:33Speaker 1: Did you read about that, by the way, about them
- 59:37Speaker 1: doing a sequel to this?
- 59:38Speaker 2: Yeah, that made no sense.
- 59:40Speaker 1: It made zero sense.
- 59:42Speaker 2: How would they be in this situation in college?
- 59:45Speaker 1: They get detention in college? I was like, how is that?
- 59:50Speaker 2: That doesn't exist, and they all go to the same college,
- 59:52Speaker 2: and Bender was accepted? But one thing I did like
- 59:55Speaker 2: about the plot of the sequel that I read is
- 59:57Speaker 2: all of them have completely changed.
- 59:59Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. They're all opposite now. Yeah.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: Yeah, which I think is really funny. Like I never–
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: we all change. Obviously we all change. But there was
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: a girl who was just like a very hot, popular, Abercrombie,
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: typical hot girl in my high school. And then like–
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: I don't know if it was summer vacation. We came
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: back the next year. And over the summer she had
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: gone to a fish show and she just was a hippie.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: Like she was always barefoot. She was dressing like a hippie.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: She was always talking about fish and like going to shows.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: And we were all just like, wait, what? Like you
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: just press the reset button on your identity over the summer.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: Like you can't, even in high school, you can't do that.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: That's weird.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: It is, but I think that happened a lot.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it did. It did.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: Yeah. At that time period, yeah.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: One year, you were very similar. In high school, you
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: were a goth, and then the next year, you were
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: always wearing Abercrombie. Then the next year, you were... Oh,
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: what's so weird about SLC Punk is there's the little clicks,
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: and one of the clicks is the mods. Do you
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: remember this?
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: No.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: Did you see SLC Punk?
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: I did. We watched it, actually.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Oh, we watched it together?
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: A long time ago, yeah.
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe it. Yeah, mods meaning
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: SLC Punk.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: That's another one we haven't done. That's been a long,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: long overdue, long overdue, long burning one.
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: The mobs, the mod M O D subculture is short
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: for modernists, which was a fashion trend in 1960s Britain
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: involving modern jazz soul and rock like the who, as
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: well as stylish Italian scooters and tailored suits. You were
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: a mod for a while.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: In high school. Yeah, that was when I came back
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: for summer of junior year. Yep, yep.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: And everybody was like, Ryan, what the.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Fuck are you doing? Every summer was a complete personality reflush.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Or reset, I'm sorry. Both, I guess.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: You'd be so exhausting to be friends with.
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: First, sophomore year was a hobbit, then came back as
- 1:02:09Speaker 5: a mod, and then came back as the QB for
- 1:02:12Speaker 5: the football team.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: You thought you were the QB, but you weren't.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: I just showed to practice. Coach was like, what are
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: you doing here? We never brought you on this team.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: You were wearing a Letterman jacket. Oh, I would love
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: so much if you were wearing a Letterman jacket. And
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: it was like all decked out in football patches. And
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: everybody's like, whoa, what is that kid doing?
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: He just goes to the games. Yeah.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: I worked out with the football team. The summer going
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: into freshman year of high school, I worked out with
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: the football team one time. And it was because my
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: parents told me– my parents– see, like a lot of
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: this movie is very accurate. When you pressure kids, they
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: can go in a lot of different directions. Whenever I
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: was pressured into something, I did the complete opposite of
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: whatever my parents wanted. But they told me I had
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: to play football in high school because if I didn't,
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: there was no other sports that I could play. And
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: if I don't play a sport, I would not get
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: into college. So they put so much pressure on me.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: They convinced me that I had to join the football team.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: And I went to a practice and I was like,
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: this is awful. I'm not fucking doing this. And I
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: went back and I was like, yeah, I'm not going
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: to do this. And if I don't get into college, fine.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: I'm not going to play football. And I didn't play
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: a single sport in high school. Did you play a
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: single sport in high school?
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: I think that's pretty unusual for somebody to not play
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: a single sport. Usually you just join the track team
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: and don't really try. That's what Shannon did. She joined
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: the track team and threw javelin because she just wanted
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: to put it on her college applications but i was
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: like no i'm not i'm not playing a sport.
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: There was also plenty of kids in my high school
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: did not play sports there was definitely not it was yeah.
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: My high school didn't have gym because like 99 of
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: the student body played sports so they decided to not have.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: Gym we had gym but yeah uh and.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: Yeah i didn't and like in retrospect i think it
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: would have been good i think there's a lot of
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: benefits to playing sports and i think i would have
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: enjoyed it and like I remember Joe and Paul were
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: saying like just join the track team you don't have
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: to be good just like hang out after school it's
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: fun we work out together and blah blah blah they're
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: probably right but my whole life my dad pressured me
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: so hard to play sports and it made me fucking
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: hate playing sports I hated baseball because he made himself
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: the coach I hated football because he put so much
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: pressure on me to play and I did play I
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: played pop warner I hated golf Because he made me
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: go to a golf summer camp that I didn't want
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: to go to. I still, to this day, hate golf.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: And he never learned. He never learned. Like, over and
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: over again, he would make me play a sport. And
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: I would hate it and never play it again. And
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: he never learned. So that's why I never played a
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: sport in high school. But in a way, I kind
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: of wish I did. That's how Eric fell in love
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: with the male form. Like, Eric loves being naked with his...
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: track buddies and that was one of the benefits too.
- 1:05:17Speaker 5: Well wasn't eric a football player he could have given
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: you some tips right.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: That's true eric was a tight end um eric used
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: to drink eric was nice eric was so skinny growing
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: up that he used to drink fat shakes like just
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: extra calorie fat shakes that made.
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: Lucky bastard that's how i respond to that you son
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: of a bitch.
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: Yeah ryan and i have never had that problem.
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: No, it's never been. It's in fact the opposite. Yeah,
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: you need to stop eating the entire loaf of French
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: bread after school.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: And actually, Eric was a very talented sprinter and his
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: track friends and coaches hated that he played football because
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: he was drinking fat shakes and trying to put on
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: weight for football, which would make him worse at track.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: He was like, don't stop the lead train. Sorry, coach.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: But you know what? At the end of the day,
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: unless you're going to play professional sports, none of this
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: fucking matters because What's Eric going to do?
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: I'm always so curious. I know we're way off here,
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: but did that really count on a lot of college applications?
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: I had zero sports. Zero.
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Scholarship, I get it.
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the day, Ryan, you're not
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: the best example because Ryan graduated from DC. Let's just
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: put this out there.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: That's very fair.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: I don't want to insult Ryan at all, but Ryan
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: gamed the system. Ryan graduated college from BC. On Ryan's LinkedIn,
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: it says he's a BC alumni. He has a degree
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: from BC. I couldn't even get into BC. I didn't
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: apply to BC because I don't like BC. But if
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: I had applied, I would not have gotten in. BC
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: is a very difficult school to get into. Ryan couldn't
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: get into any college. Ryan had way worse grades than me.
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: Ryan did the smartest thing possible. Ryan went he basically
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: hey you know you didn't like high school you didn't
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: have good grades you couldn't get into college so you
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: did community college then you did really well there and
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: you kept like transferring to better schools and then you
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: graduated so you not only did you graduate with a
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: diploma from bc which is all that matters but you
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: didn't even have to pay for bc because you only
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: went there for a certain amount of time did you
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: go there for a year two years.
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: I went there for three years. I was five years
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: in college.
- 1:07:34Speaker 5: I will say I did go to Suffolk my freshman
- 1:07:37Speaker 5: year of college.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: So I did get into a college. I went to
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Mass Bay after because I did genuinely terrible in college
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: and also just didn't know what I want to do.
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is also having good,
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: pointing you in the right direction. But yeah.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: I think, so you went from Suffolk to Mass Bay.
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I thought it was Mass Bay
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: to Suffolk.
- 1:07:55Speaker 5: No, so Suffolk to Mass Bay and then BC after.
- 1:07:57Speaker 5: I went to BC night school. just to give everybody
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: some preference here, or some reference here, excuse me. And also, famously,
- 1:08:05Speaker 5: you are not considered a full Eagle. That's the whole
- 1:08:09Speaker 5: thing with the AC, apparently.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: But nobody knows that. When you apply for a job,
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: it says you graduated from Boston. You have a degree
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: from Boston College.
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: It's the same piece of paper.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: It's the same piece of paper, right?
- 1:08:22Speaker 5: I did wish I lived at college, though. You said
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: you missed about playing a sport, or that's a mistake.
- 1:08:26Speaker 5: I do miss that I didn't do the college experience
- 1:08:28Speaker 5: of living at college.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Oh, I agree.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: I didn't want to live at college, and my parents
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: were like, you 100% are living at college all four years.
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: And they were totally right to do that. Andy Kelly
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: didn't live at college freshman year.
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: Really?
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't want to do it, and he commuted,
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: and then he ended up living at Bentley. But, yeah,
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: it's definitely the right thing to do, that my parents
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: were not wrong all the time. They were definitely right
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: about that.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: So.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Yeah, so to to answer your question, I got into
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: college just fine without playing a sport. You may be
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: not the best example.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I got into Suffolk.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: You got into Suffolk.
- 1:09:10Speaker 5: You know, so like, I think I just, I'm just
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: curious now. I mean, obviously with scholarships and stuff, it's important.
- 1:09:14Speaker 5: And obviously you want to show like variety in your life.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: So I think it's not like dismissing it, but I'm
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: also just like, I also felt like if you were
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: going to do it and half-ass it, like, what was
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: the point to, like, just join for the sake of joining? Like,
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: what's the point?
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: I think that's so smart, too. Like, because we were
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: talking about how, to Emily, because Emily, my niece, is really,
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: really smart and, like, is on the honor roll, is
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: really good at cross-country, just doing awesome. And Megan was
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: telling her, you know, your grades always matter, even freshman year,
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: because it's your cumulative GPA. And I was like, don't
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: say that. I said, Emily, you're doing fine and I
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: don't want you to put any more pressure on yourself.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: But high school really doesn't matter. Like Shannon does– did really,
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: really well in high school and went to a way
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: better college than me and I make more money than her.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: So who cares? And look at your dad. Like that's
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: what I said. Look at Ryan. Look at your dad.
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: Kevin hated high school, didn't try, didn't get good grades,
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: and he kind of went the Ryan path and he
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: ended up graduating from Northeastern. That's great. Graduating from Northeastern
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: is great. So, you know, just because you don't play
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: a sport or you don't give a fuck about high
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: school does not ruin your life necessarily.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: Agreed.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: Don't drop out. That would be my advice. Breakfast Club advice.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: Don't drop out of high school.
- 1:10:37Speaker 5: We're stopping at the middle. Not even the middle of
- 1:10:39Speaker 5: the movie. We're stopping here. That's where the movie ends.
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: We went way off the rails, but you're welcome.
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: It's fine.
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: Now we're going to go into a part two. We are.
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: Thank you.