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Week 10 News & Updates + Would You Rather | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Welcome in. Welcome all the Bangor
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  Management, the Fantasy Hockey Podcast with your esteemed
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  favorite hosts and all the land Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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  Woo, that's me. Feeling very esteemed.
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  Today today is our week 10 news and updates and would you rather
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  episode always a spicy one, especially when Josh peaks on
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  Kevin's would you rather which he.
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  Never does. I have never peaked and I never
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  will and I never. Would before I've caught you in
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  the act and hopefully just didn't peak this week because I
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  think would you rathers today are pretty spicy, so I'm looking
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  forward to getting to. Those I'm not gonna stand for
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  this slander. I've literally never peaked.
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  Don't you put this evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
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  I've actually seen you make efforts not to peak.
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  So do you think is the only peeker here?
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  Wow. So.
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  You don't have to hit 200. Jake is shaking that booty, no?
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  Now your resident booty shake. I don't know if we should edit
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  this out or not but I will tell a story that Kevin and I are
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  about the same height. So one time we went back-to-back
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  and I swear to God, he Nicki Minaj me into another dimension.
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  That's gotta stay in. I had no idea he had such a
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  badonk Little that. Until I'm very, I played soccer
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  my whole life. So I got I got the the booty and
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  the legs have been have been developed.
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  To develop to the point that it was, it was unfair and I ended
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  up like slanted back with our. Our feel a bit left out that
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  wasn't invited to this this butt to butt hanging.
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  Together we could do it. We'll just another triangle and
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  all send back-to-back. OK, perfect.
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  Sounds good? OK, let's dive into our news and
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  tidbits. Let's do it.
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  So Mikael Granlund of the Anaheim Ducks returned from
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  injury and is starting on line 4 powerfully, too, but he did have
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  some shifts on power. Play one in the last game.
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  How interested are you guys in owning Grandland in any league?
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  I mean, I'm not really interested in Greenland.
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  I will say though, that he's one of the people, one of the
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  players that we get to one of the most questions about in the
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  discord. I feel like every time he's hurt
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  and he's about to come back, people are like, oh wait, do I
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  drop like actually good player for Grantland?
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  And I'm like, I probably wouldn't to be honest.
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  Like if he was in the top 6 and power play one, I'd obviously be
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  interested, but I don't think he cracks that power play one
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  unless they're desperate for a guy to win face offs or the top
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  6 is also tough like if they're pretty healthy.
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  So I'm not super interested in if you're in a deep league,
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  obviously is worth a worth a look because he has the good
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  positional eligibility and he's we'll get your face off.
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  But with this deployment line for P2 is not even crossing my
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  mind. Yeah, if it stays that way also,
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  I'm not into it. I think what's gonna happen is
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  that he is gonna crack power play one.
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  If I if I had to guess you think because like I think.
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  I mean, yeah, they're gonna. He had a few shifts there at the
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  last game. Yeah.
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  So it's tough because I mean, this is like $20.00 in a way.
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  There's so many mouths to feed here and it's such a wagon of a
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  team. But Grantland's injury gave rise
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  to Seneca becoming a pretty solid player.
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  So now that Seneca's been doing super well, I don't know if he
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  can crack the top 6. I mean, it's just a loaded,
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  loaded top 6 right now. Unless he takes centre from
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  Mctavish, in which case he becomes super interesting.
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  For sure. I do think that like we've seen
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  with this Ducks team, that they don't really have that much of A
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  loyalty to the current lines. Like we've seen them.
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  We've seen Gautier get bumped down to power play 2.
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  We've seen Carlson get bumped down to like line 2.
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  We've seen, you know, even the best, best guys on this team
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  where way overperforming and just being amazing, not
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  necessarily perform, just performing amazingly, are not
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  locked into line one power play 1.
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  So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that
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  Grantland makes it onto power play one or in the top 6.
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  But until then, he's just a watchlist guy to me.
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  The the main thing though, like because I do think that he's
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  more likely to get power play one than he is to crack the top
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  6. So let's say he was like line 3
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  power play on how interested are you then?
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  Because I I just think that they want him on PP1 for the face off
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  wins, which I understand if he's P1, he's worth a look obviously.
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  And as we're recording this, he's I think he's practicing
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  there. So, but would they put Mason
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  Atavist there at some point? Would they put Cutter Goatee
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  back on P1? They can put Seneca there.
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  Like they have a lot of talent that deserves to be there over
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  him. It's just how valuable are those
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  faceoff wins for the power play, which is pretty valuable, right?
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  You wanna start in the offensive zone when you can.
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  It's just at some point I feel they just rely on Leo Carlson to
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  take those and they replace ground with somebody else.
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  But if if he's there like is he, are you rostering him more than
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  like let's say you're the best waiver streamer on the like
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  Jason Zucker or something? I mean, honestly, I view him
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  like, let's say he's on power play one.
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  Hmm, Then I view him kind of like slightly better than like a
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  a JG Pageau and like a really deeply, you know, those types of
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  guys who have winger eligibility.
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  But when you face offs and they could chip in at other cats,
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  that's all I see him as. I don't see him as I know he had
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  a one game that got where he got five points.
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  Then he's been out for so much of the season.
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  So you look at his averages and it looks like he's almost point
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  per game. But for the most part, he's not
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  going to put up points for you. So don't think I'm too
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  interested. So like, you'd rather Monahan
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  over him? You'd rather Zucker over him?
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  Like, yeah, Zuccarello, like all those guys.
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  Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I I'm totally with you.
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  It's it's with Seneca doing really well that makes him like
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  probably not shooting for the top six.
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  That's the difference between now and before he got injured.
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  And he should be rostered in more than 26% of leagues.
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  If he hits power play one because that's where he's at
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  now. I feel like he can get up to
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  like the 3540 mark. So he will get rostered.
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  But yeah, I'm not trading for him or anything like that.
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  Yeah, alright, let's move on to some more interesting stuff.
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  Not that wasn't interesting, but I think there's more interesting
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  names out there. Everything about.
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  The off right now. Yeah.
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  Everything the ducks are just so fun to talk about.
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  So they are fun to talk about. All right.
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  Andre Vasilevsky is day-to-day with an undisclosed injury.
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  Jonas is a Jonas or Yonas. I think it's Jonas, Jonas,
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  Jonas. OK, Jonas Johansson, they have
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  to be the same, right? It's either Jonas Johansson or
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  Jonas Johansson. It's not going to be one in the.
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  Other Johansson, so I'm leaning. Yogi, I'll go the alliteration
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  king of of Tampa, Yonis Johansson fills in while he's
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  out. I think Vassey was just put on
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  IR, so he has to be out for at least the back-to-back starting
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  this week. But they haven't said that he's
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  going to be longer than that. I saw something saying that he's
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  kind of just, he made some comments with the coach, made
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  some comments. He's like, yeah, my age is just
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  stuff you're dealing with and you just kind of manage it over
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  the course of the season. So I believe that type of thing
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  there. I'm not too worried about it,
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  but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up, you know, sitting
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  some games here and there just to like manage, you know,
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  whatever he's dealing with. Yep, I mean, pretty much like he
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  was put on IR, it's retroactive. So the only games he's for sure
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  missing are Monday, Tuesday. Now when you're listening to
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  this episode, this comes out Wednesday morning.
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  So the Monday, Tuesday back-to-back, we'll have just
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  passed. And I recommend that people in
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  the discord, like they were asking me, do I, I have
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  Veselovsky, do I pick up Johansson or do I pick up like
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  Tristan Jarry or do I pick up a, a Camry or something?
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  And honestly, my advice was if the goal you're picking up is a
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  drop, as soon as Vasilevsky, Vasilevsky comes back, I'm
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  picking up your answer if I can because I want to have like the
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  security of that situation under lock.
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  Because yeah, they put him out. He's missing only two games.
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  But you don't know if it's gonna be longer, like just ambiguity
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  in the situation. And you never know these
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  injuries for goalies specifically.
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  So I want to have that position locked down.
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  Now, if it's like a goal you're picking up and you're not
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  necessarily drop. Yeah.
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  So anyways, if that's all you're picking up and you're not
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  dropping him immediately, then I would go with Jari over
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  Vasilevsky over Johansson. I mean, I would still take I
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  would still take Johansson over over Camry, even if you're, you
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  know, thinking longer term because they're both short term
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  plays. But but I totally agree with
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  what Kevin saying there where if you sorry, he just dropped,
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  dropped off again and it was mid sentence.
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  So I'm trying to fill and finish and continue for him, but
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  Hillary trying to finish. Each other sandwiches here
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  exactly. Other other than the Colorado
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  Avalanche, who are just ridiculous in every single way,
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  the Tampa Bay Lightning are the best goals against team in the
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  league. So that's how they have been
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  winning pretty much being more shut down, which is surprising,
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  especially as a Hagel Kucherov owner with how crazy they've
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  been on offence last few weeks. But yeah, I mean, this is
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  obviously a huge blow to their team.
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  Talk about talismanic like Vasilevsky is a huge part of
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  their success so. Yeah.
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  I will say though, that I do think that Johansson's gonna do
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  a better job filling in than let's say comma is doing for
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  halibut because I know like a lot of people, a lot of people
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  who are like, hell, buck down, gotta grab comma.
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  Or even if like you're the owner, you grab Conroy just to
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  like do that kind of handcuff that Kevin was talking about.
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  And they're super disappointed. They're like, why isn't Conry
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  putting up Hellebuyck numbers, You know, which obviously was
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  never gonna happen. But like this is different
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  because first of all, Tampa is a lot better of a team than
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  Winnipeg. And I think your answer is just
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  a better goalie than Camry. So definitely something to look
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  at in terms of Tampa. Brayden Point is returning from
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  injury and we'll bump Nick Paul off power play 1.
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  So the Nick Paul power play 1 dream is dead.
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  I think that they're kind of getting back all their guys.
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  And what's interesting is that Darren Radish is keeping Power
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  Play one while even though Hedman is back.
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  And then Bjorkstrand found his way back on Power Play 1.
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  I don't know why they love having him there, he's so not
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  good, but whatever. Yeah.
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  It's it's kind of baffling that they want to put Hagel on there,
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  but it is what it is. So it's looking like it's
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  Kucherov, Point Bjorkstrand Gensel and Darren Raddysh for
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  now on Power Play 1. Yeah, it's crazy that they don't
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  just do that in it from our perspective, but I get it in
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  real life, Hagel is extremely effective and helps the team in
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  in the ways that he does. So I'm not expecting him to get
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  that at any point. Brayden Point, though, I if he
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  has like one or two not great games, given how good Tom has
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  been offensively as of late, he just becomes the biased of
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  Billows. Like we we talked about that all
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  the time. So keep an eye out like even if
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  you don't own him or he's not on your trading radar, like he will
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  turn things around at some point this season because he's just
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  too to be as bad as he's been. Yeah, we're getting really close
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  to the place where if you trade for him, it could be that exact
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  moment where he turned his season around.
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  And then, like the owner who's held him all year is going to be
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  like, I can't believe I traded him right when, you know, he
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  turned it around. And you're the guy who's like,
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  thanks for holding on to him for me while he puts zeros and I'm
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  gonna grab him and he's gonna be a point for game guys.
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  So definitely a very interesting grab.
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  OK, well first of all, my camera died so I'm I'm done with this
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  webcam. Honestly guys, I'm going to
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  figure this shit out. Telling you and he roasted least
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  for using my computer webcam. Ohgod, I mean, listen, the
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  quality is better, but how much can you rely on the quality like
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  the expected value when it's just not producing on a
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  consistent basis is just I don't.
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  Know honestly it's kind of like the like yes for wall set of
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  webcams like when it's on it's like the goat, but it only plays
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  half the games so. Every time.
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  It's gonna be on like Donkey Kong all the time, but just
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  just. Just.
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  Just just a note on on Brayden Point, however, as, as we record
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  this, like you guys said, like he's, he's back and people are
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  worried like, OK, can I expect better things?
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  Honestly, I don't think you can expect worse things.
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  I, I truly expect Brayden point to get back to what we expect
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  from Brayden point in the very near future.
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  I think we're we're, we're coming close to the final days
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  of the by law being able to happen because people are
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  dropping Brayden Point like in a lot of leagues in the discord,
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  I'm seeing people be like, I just picked them up off waivers.
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  He starts from my IR. Who do I cut down all these
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  nodes healthy? I think that's the fact that
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  people are dropping him means that you can acquire him for so
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  cheap still, and I would still be trying to do that.
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  Would you? Would you cut?
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  Would you cut or trade like Dylan Strum for Brayden Point?
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  I take overstrom, yeah. Yeah.
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  I mean, yeah. Anyways, I just think that he's
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  super valuable in that if you're listening to this and you can
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  still acquire him, please do so. Yeah, yeah, OK, onto some
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  Western Conference stuff. Connor Garland returned from
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  injury and bumped Kiefer Sherwood off power play 1.
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  And then Elias Pettersson went down with entry with an upper
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  body injury. And it seems like Jonathan
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  Electra Amaki is taking his spot on line one, power play one.
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  But I don't think those lines are locked in.
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  And also, we don't really know what's going on with the Elise
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  Peterson. It was kind of like a last
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  second scratch and he warmed up that game.
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  So I think that it's kind of still murky about what the issue
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  is and we'll see how long term this is.
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  Yeah, like, first of all, Garland and Grantland's names
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  are just way too similar to be on the same same news episodes,
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  so no. But come on, man, no, but all
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  all this to say with with garlands, he's actually been
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  really good playing insane minutes all year.
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  I like this a lot. I think Vancouver still in a
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  really tough spot. It doesn't help the team much,
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  but I I mean, I'm not really that surprised he bumped him off
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  power play one liquor and Mackie.
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  I I've been unwisely excited about the prospect of him being
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  a good NHL player for. He's basically Goose V 2.0.
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  Yeah, no, he's he's still like like as a prospect.
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  I don't know how old he is, but I think it's like this Lefkofsky
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  draft here or the Cutter go trade draft here more more more
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  correctly put. But yeah, Garland great for
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  shots, obviously, and he hasn't had a point in his return yet,
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  but I still think it's he's a good guy to roster.
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  I, I just think that this is not honestly like I'm, I don't with
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  the deployment, you have to be interested for like a minimum
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  level, but I just feel like it might be so short lived that I'm
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  not wasting an ad on him for a few games while Peterson is out
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  because I don't know how good he's gonna be with the
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  deployment, first of all, so. Yeah, you're talking like
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  Mackey, not Garland, right? Yeah, absolutely.
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  Like a Rumaki Garland, as long as he's has the good deployment,
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  he's valuable. He might be a trade piece as
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  well if people want him. So I feel like they're gonna do
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  what they can to showcase that. Yeah, alright, here's the kind
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  of crazy one that came out of nowhere.
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  Adam Fox was put on LTIR with an upper body injury and his
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  timeline to return is unknown. Will Quilly currently taking his
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  spot on power play 1 two things to note here. 1 is he got
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  injured and then immediately put on LTIR.
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  Like we don't really see that, right?
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  It's usually, you know, they'll be day-to-day to out to IR and
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  then LTIR, you know, but he just went straight on like next day.
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  So I don't know what that means in terms of his timeline.
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  I feel like he can't be good, but maybe they just want to like
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  find a way to use the the cap room.
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  And then second is I've seen rumors that the Rangers are
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  looking to trade for a power play 1 defenseman.
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  So that kind of also makes me worried about Fox's timeline.
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  And I saw like Eric Gustafson's name being tossed around and I
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  saw all the Detroit fans being like, take him, please.
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  He's like on their AHL team. He's not even in the right now.
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  But but yeah, so I don't think that this five forward power
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  play is going to stick. I don't think that's what they
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  want to be doing. And I do think they're going to
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  make an acquisition for some. I mean, it's gonna be super low
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  cost, like Gustafson. I don't think they make a big
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  splash, but I think something's going to happen.
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  Yeah, I, I, I don't see them making a splash.
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  I don't know if they have the cap room to make a splash like
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  that. For Eric Gustafson.
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  No, no. For Gustafson, yes, but I don't
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  think they're doing another movie besides Gustafson, No, no.
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  We can't. We can't see your facial
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  expressions bad. But yeah, no, I, I and if
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  Gustafson gets added to the team, I'm actually interested
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  because we've seen him be successful there in the past and
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  he knows the system. But honestly, I wouldn't be
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  surprised if they just roll with this five forward because Panera
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  couldn't be the quarterback of this of this unit and it's not a
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  problem so. Plot twist, Tony D'Angelo gets
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  traded back then. Yeah.
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  Score Rochester again. No, thank you.
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  Yeah, exactly. The only way to beat Chester can
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  is that is self goal invite Tony D'Angelo.
• 17:54
  What do you guys think? Do you New York rivalry double?
• 17:58
  Agent exactly. What do you guys think all this
• 18:01
  stuff means for Adam Fox's timeline?
• 18:03
  Like, I know there's been no real news about it, but like, to
• 18:06
  me, it's just kind of grim. Majano, OK.
• 18:09
  That's my expectation. I think it's like right before
• 18:11
  the Olympics. Vivid bring him back before
• 18:14
  because that was the whole thing that he really wants to play
• 18:16
  that. In exactly yeah, I don't think
• 18:18
  he wants to miss the Olympics and I think one of the reasons
• 18:20
  why they made this move so early is to give him the best chance.
• 18:23
  Not that it changes anything like whether they put him on IR
• 18:25
  right away or not doesn't really change the fact like his
• 18:28
  timeline to come back. But I think it was one of those
• 18:30
  things like let's not let's not play any games with this.
• 18:32
  We know you're gonna be out for awhile LTIR and then hopefully
• 18:36
  you're back in time for that. I think that's the goal.
• 18:39
  So yeah, that's what I would be expecting.
• 18:42
  Yeah OK Shane Pinto is out at least two weeks with a lower
• 18:46
  body injury. Dylan Cousins gets his spot back
• 18:49
  on power play one. I am a little worried as a
• 18:52
  Cousins holder that into bumped him in the 1st place.
• 18:55
  It just seems kind of crazy, like Cousins doing so well makes
• 18:58
  me think that even if cousins keeps doing well and Pinto comes
• 19:01
  back, they might still bump him because it's not like he wasn't
• 19:03
  doing well beforehand. So I still I'm happy to hold
• 19:07
  cousins. His bangers are unreal enough
• 19:09
  that even if he does get bumped off, he still someone you're
• 19:11
  happy to have on your team. I don't know, Kevin, what you're
• 19:13
  the you're the biggest cousin lover on here, but.
• 19:17
  I do love me some cousins. And do you think he could be
• 19:19
  considered a sell high if he starts popping off on the power
• 19:21
  play before Pinto comes back? I mean, I think cousins
• 19:25
  especially, like the main reason why I love him for bangers
• 19:29
  leagues is because of his bangers are so elite, right?
• 19:31
  Like in our league of record, we have face off wins.
• 19:33
  We have hits, block shots Pimms as well, which he's low key good
• 19:38
  at Pimms. He's better at faceoff wins and
• 19:40
  he the hits he can produce from the pure C position are, are
• 19:44
  really exceptional. And listen, I'm Pinto has been
• 19:47
  up for a few games. I'm not really worried about the
• 19:50
  P1 because I think that's what the default situation is.
• 19:54
  Him 21 and probably was so bad and that's why they needed to
• 19:57
  make a change And the other guys were just such staples that
• 19:59
  they're never going to get bumped off.
• 20:01
  So if the power plays clicking and he's on it, I think he's
• 20:05
  gonna keep the spot because I think that's a default
• 20:07
  situation. Now the other interesting thing
• 20:09
  is if you look at his last two games with Pinto out, like he
• 20:12
  played major minutes, he's played over 20 minutes in both
• 20:14
  games. He had double digit face off
• 20:16
  wins in both games. So I think they're relying on
• 20:19
  him a little bit more. And if you look at practice like
• 20:22
  Stutzel has been, I mean, we just highlighted him as a bylaw.
• 20:25
  On a recent Billow episode, and if you look at the practice
• 20:30
  lines, tools playing kind of alone there and they stacked
• 20:33
  Brady, Dylan, Cousins and Batherson on one line.
• 20:38
  So as a Cousins owner, I'm thrilled about that.
• 20:40
  He's playing with the best talent on the team.
• 20:42
  And I mean, listen, if he if he starts popping off, I'm always
• 20:45
  looking to sell for the right price.
• 20:47
  But just capitalizing on the heightened value, not what I
• 20:49
  actually think it's current value is, but I think there's a
• 20:52
  lot of better days ahead for Cousins.
• 20:53
  Like he's averaging .5 points per game.
• 20:55
  I think he can easily get to .75 point 8.
• 20:59
  Yeah, I think it's super reasonable.
• 21:01
  Yeah, I'm with you there. And the the thing with with the
• 21:05
  whole situation is that Brady did just come back and then they
• 21:09
  like, what was it one or two games before they put Pinto on
• 21:11
  the Power Play 1? So I guess we'll see how it
• 21:14
  shakes out. I get what you're saying though,
• 21:16
  Josh, that like you're still apprehensive to feel confident
• 21:20
  as a Cousins owner because he was doing OK and Pinto still
• 21:23
  took it so. Yeah.
• 21:25
  So I think it's something something to keep an eye out on.
• 21:27
  Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
• 21:30
  OK, Joseph Woll is out about a week with the lower body injury.
• 21:34
  Dennis Hildie is the starter until he returns because Stolarz
• 21:37
  is also out. But the coach did say Walsh
• 21:39
  shouldn't be out for a for longer than a week.
• 21:41
  So this is very much a one week stream type of thing, not a rush
• 21:45
  to grab. Yeah, not much to say here.
• 21:48
  I mean, that's that's just what the case is.
• 21:50
  Do we have a timeline on Stolarz's return?
• 21:52
  No, I know that it's looking pretty bad.
• 21:54
  I mean, just every time the coach is asked about him, he's
• 21:56
  like, yeah, he's still not skating.
• 21:57
  Like not seeing much progress. Like all kind of like, not great
• 22:00
  looking things. But at the end of the day, you
• 22:02
  know, sometimes they say that and then all of a sudden they
• 22:04
  make a big step forward, right? And then they're back on the
• 22:06
  ice. So I don't think we have a clear
• 22:08
  timeline on him just yet, but I know he hasn't really started
• 22:10
  skating. Yeah, not much, Dad.
• 22:14
  OK, Matt Duchene returned from injury and his line 2, power
• 22:17
  play 2. Also to talk about the Stars,
• 22:20
  Tyler Sagan is out for the season with an ACL injury.
• 22:23
  That is a huge loss for Dallas. Obviously he's not one of their
• 22:26
  like top, top guys anymore, but like he's just a big part of
• 22:29
  that lineup, whether it's like in the locker room or on the ice
• 22:31
  as well. So that's really rough for him.
• 22:34
  I'm not too interested. I know a lot of people you
• 22:36
  talked about Kevin, talked about grand, everyone asking about him
• 22:39
  coming back do Shane, I think has been asked about even more
• 22:41
  than Granlund. And people look at his last year
• 22:43
  stats, right where he was like point per game and doing all
• 22:46
  sorts of crazy stuff. And it just feels so
• 22:50
  unsustainable. I mean, going into the season,
• 22:51
  we were like, this is unsustainable.
• 22:53
  So coming back from injury, just it's not, it's the deployment at
• 22:55
  the end of the day, right? If he's not power play one.
• 22:57
  He's not the type of guy who's going to put up points per game
• 22:59
  without power play 1-2 years in a row at this stage in his
• 23:02
  career. No, I literally have 0 interest
• 23:06
  in the shine to be honest. Yeah, I'm not interested in him
• 23:10
  either. I guess the the timing though,
• 23:12
  like this gives him a better pathway to points because he's
• 23:14
  playing with Johnson and Ramzan that like if Sagan was there, it
• 23:18
  would be a bit more of a question mark, but I feel like
• 23:20
  they're just going to be a more top heavy, even strength team
• 23:23
  than what otherwise would be the case.
• 23:25
  So he won't replicate what he did last year, but I guess this
• 23:28
  gives his value somewhat of a boost that he's like, you know,
• 23:31
  not a threat. Like no one on the bottom 6 was
• 23:34
  like threat to taking that spot from.
• 23:35
  Him. Would you rather do Shaner
• 23:37
  Gremlin? Duchene was a good one.
• 23:39
  I was thinking that as you guys gave the intro there.
• 23:43
  Actually, no, I'm gonna go grand.
• 23:44
  I think he actually has a shot at play 1.
• 23:47
  Me too. I'm gonna go Grantland.
• 23:48
  I like the face off upside also. So in the faceoff leagues for
• 23:51
  sure. And he just shoots more.
• 23:53
  I mean like I'm pretty confident in short term goal.
• 23:56
  Yeah. I mean I just wanna will do last
• 23:58
  little tidbit on Duchene. Like for what my projection is
• 24:02
  for him rest of season like laser, he was a point per game
• 24:04
  had like roughly just over two shots, not really hits or anyone
• 24:08
  in any blocks. And I feel like this year you
• 24:10
  can probably expect the same thing like 1.8 shots, 2.2 shots
• 24:14
  like in that range. And he's I don't think getting
• 24:16
  anywhere close to a point per game unless like his linemates
• 24:19
  at 585 like severely carry him. I'm expecting like a .65 point 7
• 24:25
  and there's just like would I rather produce?
• 24:29
  Yes. And that's saying a lot, so.
• 24:31
  Oh, I don't think that's saying much at all.
• 24:34
  Kevin, don't bring up produces. Name your cameras already shot.
• 24:37
  I don't know what. Else is gonna happen to you
• 24:39
  lose. Speaking of the Washington
• 24:43
  Capitals, John Carlson is day-to-day with an upper body
• 24:47
  injury. Jacob Chicken had already bumped
• 24:49
  him off properly on before the entry.
• 24:50
  But interestingly enough, and unfortunately for the Caps, Ryan
• 24:54
  Leonard is out long term with an upper body injury and this may
• 24:57
  open a spot back up on power play.
• 24:58
  One for John Carlson when he returns.
• 25:00
  I don't know what you guys think about that, if you think it's
• 25:01
  going to be another forward who jumps in or if Carlson is going
• 25:04
  to get that spot now, but I think that makes it.
• 25:06
  I know we had said like sell Carlson, he's overperforming and
• 25:09
  that's still true regardless of whether he's back on power play
• 25:11
  or not. He's not going to point per game
• 25:13
  but it does change it from a must sell.
• 25:16
  Get him off your team while he's while you still can to like OK,
• 25:19
  he'll still be solid rest of the season.
• 25:21
  So first of all, horrible timing with the Ryan Leonard injury
• 25:24
  because he had a ridiculous game like I, I like he's one of the
• 25:30
  rising stars in the NHL. He was on a four-game point
• 25:34
  streak and in that fourth game he got 4 points with six shots
• 25:38
  in two. Very sad.
• 25:40
  It was only. 30 minutes though, so it's not like, I don't know.
• 25:44
  It's still super disappointing, sorry.
• 25:45
  Yeah. Yeah, second of all, the proper
• 25:48
  way to address this team is Alexis.
• 25:51
  Sorry 6 game point streak Alyxia protest in.
• 25:53
  The Washington. Capitals, just to just to point
• 25:56
  that out. Does that add.
• 25:59
  Last but not least, although I do love protests, as everybody
• 26:02
  knows, I like, I'm not scared of a guy like him taking the power
• 26:07
  play over John Carlson. So I think that the logical way
• 26:11
  that this is gonna go is that when when Carlson's like ready
• 26:14
  to be there, he's gonna take the power play.
• 26:15
  One Ethan Frank, I actually like he can snipe, he can shoot the
• 26:21
  puck. But like, I mean, to me that's
• 26:24
  it's obvious that the guy who's going to go there would be John
• 26:27
  Carlson. What about like Connor
• 26:29
  McMichael? Yeah.
• 26:30
  No, I don't. If Connor, Michael is going to
• 26:32
  be one, that would put him there instead of Frank.
• 26:35
  So yeah, like that's that's exactly what I was gonna say.
• 26:37
  Yeah, I yeah, just, I feel need to comment just because John
• 26:41
  Carlson was my cell high in the recent episode.
• 26:43
  And like Josh said, I he went from being like an absolute get
• 26:47
  off your roster to like, I still wanna sell just because the
• 26:51
  production was so inflated. But if you keep him on your
• 26:54
  roster right now, like the floor is higher than it would have
• 26:57
  been like a week ago. So really bad timing on the
• 27:00
  Leonard injury. Like it happened like a few days
• 27:01
  after we recorded the the vital cell high.
• 27:04
  So bad timing unfortunately, but saving grace if you still have
• 27:07
  Carlton on your roster. I mean also like since he's
• 27:11
  still a sell high, this could actually help you sell him,
• 27:14
  right? You can be like, look, even
• 27:15
  look, you may not have believed me a week ago and I tried to
• 27:17
  sell him and and chicken was the powerful one guy, but now
• 27:19
  Leonards out he's definitely going to be power play and like
• 27:22
  what he's been doing with that deployment, you know, so since
• 27:24
  it could help with the cell. It's not out of the question
• 27:27
  either that like we're basically saying it's guaranteed that he
• 27:29
  gets back up P1 when with the letter out.
• 27:32
  But listen, it's not out of the cars that they keep Ethan Frank
• 27:34
  there and they just put Carlton on P2.
• 27:36
  So for sure I would still be trying to get out of the
• 27:38
  situation just because there's a lot of ambiguity in the discord.
• 27:41
  I mean, Josh and I think we both helped one of our one of our
• 27:45
  listeners do a big trade recently.
• 27:47
  He was trying to get better at goalie and he he traded, he was
• 27:50
  trying to trade most cider for Igor Sterken, which if you need
• 27:53
  the goalie position, that's like a perfect swap.
• 27:55
  But he still had John Carlson on his Ross.
• 27:57
  And I was like, oh, you know what, like listen, I just
• 27:59
  highlighted this guys as a cell high.
• 28:01
  Like see if you can actually get him off your roster and get
• 28:04
  value for him. And he was able to make it a 2
• 28:06
  for two when he sent Carlson and cider for Igor and Dylan Strome,
• 28:11
  which I think is a massive win for him.
• 28:12
  So. Yeah, that's huge.
• 28:15
  Yeah. OK, Yoder Kochetkov returned
• 28:19
  from injury. Carolina is back to A3 goalie
• 28:22
  rotation, which everyone in fantasy loves, adding to Rod
• 28:27
  Random's amazing status among fantasy owners.
• 28:30
  Why not mess with the goalies too, right?
• 28:33
  Honestly, like, yeah, it's just it's so frustrating to own any
• 28:38
  Carolina goalie because there's such a good team.
• 28:40
  There's so much value. I mean, the same with all their
• 28:42
  players, right? There's such a good team,
• 28:43
  there's so much value to be had. And Rod finds a way to he's
• 28:46
  going to be the most anti gambling person out there,
• 28:48
  right? Like he's just like, you know
• 28:49
  what, screw you guys. I'm just gonna make my team win
• 28:51
  while having no valuable players on it for your gambling or
• 28:54
  whatever or fantasy. But yeah, it just sucks because
• 28:57
  even if the guys play well, if they're playing like Max one
• 28:59
  game a week, that's really rough.
• 29:01
  So I will say that the totem pole, I would say 1.
• 29:05
  I actually would put busy ahead of Anderson, though.
• 29:07
  I don't know you guys think about that.
• 29:09
  Yeah, I agree with that. I, I was gonna say like I I
• 29:12
  kinda get not utilizing your players in the fantasy efficient
• 29:16
  way and how that translates to real life success.
• 29:19
  I don't understand how he thinks a three goalie rotation is good
• 29:24
  for longevity in an NHL team. So my take is that this is going
• 29:29
  to be consolidated into two with Kochetkov being A1A.
• 29:34
  Now I own busy, so I realized how that sounds, but also
• 29:42
  Brandon Bussey of the Carolina Hurricane, one of the goalies on
• 29:45
  my fantasy hockey team. So let's be very clear.
• 29:52
  And he can handle the workload. That they were giving him on the
• 29:55
  Carolina Hurricanes, No. But this, this scary part with
• 29:59
  all this is like, it's like I I just think he is the odd one out
• 30:03
  and they're not gonna do this for that much longer.
• 30:05
  So I don't know what kind of situation it is.
• 30:08
  Will they demote him? I don't know.
• 30:10
  I hope that's not the case for because I actually think maybe,
• 30:15
  like, I think he's definitely better than Anderson.
• 30:17
  Yeah. I don't know if you guys agree.
• 30:19
  I agree with Jakey. If you like Bossy is the one
• 30:22
  that gives you the most signs of life it feels like for this
• 30:26
  roster. But what?
• 30:28
  Why is that? Why you guys laughing?
• 30:32
  OK, reason, but I also feel like giving like the the the context
• 30:36
  and his age and everything. He's also the easiest one to
• 30:39
  leave out because there's no way like you have a healthy Anderson
• 30:41
  and you're not dressing him up for a game or a healthy check
• 30:44
  cover not dressing him up for a game like the easiest excuse
• 30:47
  they have to not dress guys busy.
• 30:48
  So I've got 2. Comments on this one is one
• 30:53
  thing to note is that Anderson and could check cover both super
• 30:56
  entry prone right. So I think that is one of the
• 31:00
  reasons why he may be running this 3 goalie tandem is just he
• 31:02
  doesn't trust that if he like gives the other guys like more
• 31:05
  than like 1/3 of the games, they're not gonna like break
• 31:07
  into pieces. So I think that could be an
• 31:09
  explanation and it could be an Ave. to you know, one of these
• 31:12
  other guys being more valuable. But like you can't do hold that
• 31:15
  and hope. You kind of have to like watch
• 31:17
  Lesly guy until the injuries happen and then you pick them
• 31:19
  up. And second thing.
• 31:20
  This is something that popped in my head that I don't know if I
• 31:22
  haven't seen any rumors about. This is just in my head.
• 31:24
  But like if they have these three goalies, like maybe they
• 31:27
  trade like Anderson to like Oilers or something, you know,
• 31:30
  like a a goalie needy team like that, you know, he's signed to
• 31:33
  like a one year contract. Like that's super easy to to
• 31:35
  send in a trade. Like I said, I haven't seen
• 31:37
  anything about this, but do the. Because the main thing with the
• 31:42
  Oilers is that they do not want to trade for somebody that's not
• 31:45
  a clear upgrade. First of all, I don't think
• 31:47
  Anderson is a clear upgrade for any goal in the league right
• 31:49
  now. And also, like, one of the
• 31:52
  reasons why they're currently like not trading for Jerry is
• 31:55
  the injury concerns. Like, they don't want, they
• 31:57
  don't want to be a fool and trade for a guy he gets hurt.
• 31:59
  Like that would just be disastrous for the organization
• 32:01
  when they've been lacking goaltending experience like the
• 32:04
  whole time. It's also one of the main
• 32:06
  reasons why they didn't end up training for Gibson in recent
• 32:08
  years. Like, could you imagine if they
• 32:10
  put their season on a tray like this and the guy that they
• 32:13
  traded for gets hurt? Like, they just look like a
• 32:14
  clown. So yeah, I mean, they look like
• 32:16
  clowns. Anyways, but they do.
• 32:19
  For a guy and yeah, I definitely see your.
• 32:21
  Point So these are just these were just ways I could see the
• 32:24
  three goalie rotation ending, but barring some sort of trade
• 32:27
  or injury, it's just going to continue.
• 32:29
  And it just kind of sucks to hold any of these guys.
• 32:31
  So like if you have Anderson or or busy, like I'm pretty
• 32:35
  comfortable dropping either of them.
• 32:36
  Obviously like on a week 4 game week where you can get like one
• 32:39
  or two starts and still find a hold.
• 32:40
  But like I'm thinking like long term.
• 32:42
  The only one that's kind of interesting to me is Kochetkov
• 32:44
  and I know if I have him, I'm really not happy about it.
• 32:48
  I don't know if I'm comfortable dropping him.
• 32:49
  It really depends on your waivers, Yeah, and the only.
• 32:52
  Thing like is if you look at them on the season, Anderson's
• 32:55
  5-7 and two pussies, 81 and 0, and you could check off his four
• 32:59
  one and oh so like there's clearly 2 superior goalies in
• 33:04
  this situation. So to me, I think that if things
• 33:08
  were fair, that would happen. But Anderson has like a lot of,
• 33:11
  you know, respect from having had a pretty decent career.
• 33:15
  And if Kochetkov can actually stay healthy, it's probably just
• 33:18
  going to be checked 1 Anderson one be and that's it.
• 33:22
  Yeah, I guess we'll. See, we won't talk about it
• 33:24
  anymore, but but yeah, it's just an interesting thing to keep an
• 33:27
  eye out on because if anyone runs away with it, it's a very
• 33:29
  valuable position to have. Alright.
• 33:31
  Logan Cooley is out indefinitely with a lower body injury.
• 33:35
  J Peterka is getting his spot on power play one.
• 33:37
  This is actually super interesting for Peterka because
• 33:40
  he was pretty much droppable maybe like 3-4 weeks ago and all
• 33:44
  of a sudden he's like, you know, kind of people drafted him being
• 33:48
  like, oh, he got traded to Utah. He's going to be like on this
• 33:50
  high power offence, he escaped Buffalo and then he's been a
• 33:53
  huge let down. But with this deployment and the
• 33:55
  fact that it's an indefinite Logan Cooley injury, I'm much
• 33:58
  more interested in Artica. Fact is though, I'm not buying
• 34:00
  him because this is all time high value, right?
• 34:02
  So it's more just like if you have him on your roster or if
• 34:04
  you can pick him up, then I'm very interested, but I'm not
• 34:06
  going to go chasing for him. Are you guys?
• 34:11
  Are. You are you guys.
• 34:13
  Interested in Daniel Butt? Yeah.
• 34:16
  Funny, sorry about that. I actually.
• 34:19
  Over the course. Of like, I don't know if it was
• 34:21
  like the offseason or what. Like I follow along like the
• 34:23
  lines, right, for like different teams.
• 34:25
  And I kept seeing like them posting these lines and like, it
• 34:28
  would be like Keller Schmaltz, like Hayden.
• 34:30
  And then it would be like Cooley get their butt.
• 34:32
  And then it would be like whatever, you know?
• 34:33
  And for some reason, my head, I thought they were just using
• 34:35
  butt as like a placeholder. I didn't realize it was a
• 34:37
  player's name. And so I kept seeing it like I
• 34:39
  could sing that around the lineup.
• 34:40
  And I'm like, OK, who keeps being injured that they have
• 34:42
  like a placeholder, you know, in these lines.
• 34:44
  And it took me like, getting called up in the season for me
• 34:48
  to be like, oh, Daniel, but OK. So I did not realize he was a
• 34:53
  real. Person I saw, I saw somebody say
• 34:55
  like. It would have been so sick if he
• 34:57
  was on the Habs and he scores a goal because it had been like,
• 35:00
  OK, you look beautiful. But like but.
• 35:02
  That's like spelled the same way.
• 35:05
  I could have been pretty. Funny.
• 35:06
  Yeah, that would be funny all. That to be said, no, I'm not
• 35:09
  interested in in, but no, not interested in but.
• 35:13
  And I wanna I wanna ask you guys this because somebody, somebody
• 35:18
  in the discord was asking us about Peterka because you know,
• 35:23
  he has Peterka on his particular was available on waivers and his
• 35:27
  worst guys like Alex Tuck. So he's debating right now who
• 35:31
  to keep on his roster or, you know, drop Tuck for for Peterka.
• 35:35
  And honestly, like that's the kind of love that I feel like
• 35:37
  you probably should make given with the Logan Cooley injury
• 35:40
  that we just talked about. There's gonna be, I think more
• 35:44
  load on his shoulders, if you will, for Peterka to carry some
• 35:48
  momentum. And if he's the one that gets up
• 35:50
  one spot, I just feel like he's gonna be so solidified as better
• 35:54
  than Alex talk. So what do you guys think about
• 35:56
  that? I.
• 35:57
  Honestly, like I feel like I should adjust my hot topics for
• 35:59
  the next episode to include Alex Tuck because these are feel like
• 36:02
  there's a lot of people talking about him and like in every
• 36:05
  conversation the same thing. It's like there's this
• 36:07
  interesting guy on waivers, here are my three most droppable guys
• 36:09
  and one of them is always Alex Tuck.
• 36:10
  Yeah, it's getting to the point where like every time I'm asking
• 36:12
  these questions, I'm always like I find myself saying, yeah, Tuck
• 36:14
  is the drop. Tuck is the job.
• 36:16
  And it's just like, yes, he's very valuable.
• 36:18
  Let's say like shorties. He's great at blocks from a
• 36:20
  forward, he's great at, He's hitting decently and he's good
• 36:23
  for Pimms, you know, so like cat coverage he's great at, but he's
• 36:25
  never getting power play on barring injury.
• 36:27
  Like he only had it earlier in this year because all the Sabres
• 36:29
  injuries. And that just puts such a cap on
• 36:31
  his value that yeah, I would take Patricia for Tuck and and
• 36:34
  I'd be pretty happy about it with how things are going.
• 36:37
  And honestly, if talks the worst guy in your roster, then I'm
• 36:38
  pretty happy with my team. It's because it's because he
• 36:41
  goes on. These stretches where he'll have
• 36:42
  like 5 games in a row where he gets like 10 points and you're
• 36:45
  like, Oh my God, this guy is sick.
• 36:47
  And then he just like rides off that that production for like
• 36:49
  the next two weeks and he doesn't do anything.
• 36:52
  And you're like, OK, like is this guy still worth holding or
• 36:54
  not? And he was so good.
• 36:55
  And you just keep remembering that.
• 36:57
  So that's just one of those things that I feel like if he's
• 37:00
  your worst guy, you could probably stream that position.
• 37:02
  And not saying the streamer will always be better, but just
• 37:04
  having the constant rotation of players from that spot is going
• 37:06
  to be more valuable than just holding them.
• 37:08
  Yeah, I'm not like dying to drop.
• 37:10
  Him, but there's a lot of guys who surprisingly, I'd rather
• 37:13
  have than him. I'd rather take.
• 37:14
  Patrick, I'd rather take. The chance on Patrico, Yeah,
• 37:16
  yeah, I agree. OK.
• 37:20
  Jordan Kairu is day-to-day with a lower body injury.
• 37:23
  Oscar Sundqvist takes his spot on power Play 1.
• 37:26
  The Blues are just a mess. I mean, honestly, if you're a
• 37:28
  Cairo owner, you're probably like, yes, I could put him on IR
• 37:31
  Plus and just forget about him for a week, you know, because
• 37:33
  he's been such a disappointment this year.
• 37:35
  And yeah, this is just. I mean, why is Oscar Sunfish on
• 37:39
  power play one? Yeah.
• 37:40
  Like, what is going on with this team?
• 37:42
  And it just is such a mess. And honestly, as I have seen, it
• 37:45
  sucks. We just lost to them.
• 37:46
  And I'm like, how do you lose to the 2025, 2026 Saint Louis
• 37:50
  Blues, You know? So yeah, I'm not not picking up
• 37:53
  song fist not really interested in any of the Blues too much
• 37:55
  this year. The the only, the only.
• 37:58
  Silver lining here that I'm saying is that if if Cairo was
• 38:02
  I've been answering questions in the discord again where like,
• 38:04
  you know, people are basically asking me permission to drop
• 38:07
  Jordan Cairo and I just feel this is the excuse that I can
• 38:10
  finally be like, yes, like you can just if you can't IR plus
• 38:13
  dash him just like I'm giving you the OK, like I'm not holding
• 38:17
  this guy through injury. Cut him pick up the mess guy
• 38:19
  you've been trying to try to get on your roster.
• 38:21
  So. Yeah, the the.
• 38:24
  Sundquist thing is totally fantasy irrelevant.
• 38:28
  I like he's never been a someone to own fantasy hockey at all.
• 38:33
  I don't think players like Butt, I don't even think there's like,
• 38:39
  I don't think this is what's gonna happen.
• 38:40
  I think they'll probably like, why don't they just put Holloway
• 38:42
  there, you know, or something like the I mean.
• 38:45
  Look, we love Monty as a coach and even and even for fantasy we
• 38:48
  like him. But like he seems dead set on
• 38:50
  this split power play. He's been doing it since he
• 38:53
  since he came in and it was working for them last year.
• 38:55
  So I think that he just wants to spread the wealth.
• 38:57
  So he doesn't like loading up on the first unit?
• 39:00
  Yeah, OK. I.
• 39:01
  Guess, but yeah, yeah, it it totally does 0 interesting
• 39:04
  suncoast though. Yeah, OK.
• 39:07
  Kirill Marchenko returns from injury and bumped Kent Johnson
• 39:10
  off power play one. No real surprise there.
• 39:13
  Not surprising, but family still own one.
• 39:15
  Power play 1 and him and Broncos value goes up.
• 39:18
  And honestly, Monahan and Werenski, anyone who gets to
• 39:20
  play with Marchenko's value goes up.
• 39:21
  Another machine goes back. Yep.
• 39:23
  Yeah, literally nothing else. To cover, just happy to March
• 39:25
  and goes back and everybody else gets better on the team.
• 39:28
  Yeah, exactly. Drew Dowdy returned from injury
• 39:31
  and bumped Brant Clark off power Play one.
• 39:33
  This is gonna be one of our hot topics, so I don't want to dive
• 39:36
  into it too much. Spoiler alert.
• 39:38
  But yeah, I guess we'll see. Even for the hot topics,
• 39:41
  discussing what we think is going to happen over the longer
• 39:44
  term season. But it's just interesting to
• 39:46
  note that Dowdy's back and Clark up.
• 39:49
  Bumped off. You pick up Dowdy now.
• 39:52
  We'll dive into it a bit more. I'm.
• 39:54
  Not rushing to pick him up. I literally, I needed to pick up
• 39:56
  a defenseman for this week and I had the opportunity to take
• 39:59
  Daddy and I just went with a banger guy like Josh Manson.
• 40:01
  So I mean, obviously depends what your team needs.
• 40:04
  But first of all, I don't think he has an iron grip on that
• 40:07
  power play. Second of all, it's one of the
• 40:08
  worst power plays in the league and I don't think he's going to
• 40:10
  magically fix it. And third of all, he gets 0 back
• 40:12
  category coverage. So for those reasons, those
• 40:14
  reasons, I didn't go with picking him up.
• 40:16
  I'm I mean. I know that I'm going to talk
• 40:18
  about it on the the next episode, which is the Hot Topics
• 40:21
  episode, but people still want to have an answer.
• 40:23
  I think they're listening to this on Wednesday.
• 40:25
  If you want, we won't tease everyone too.
• 40:27
  Much. Yeah, if you.
• 40:29
  Have like Clark on your roster and you just see this news.
• 40:32
  Are you dropping one for the other?
• 40:36
  I mean, it makes me. Like before Dowdy came back and
• 40:39
  when Clark got power play one, I was super interested in Clark.
• 40:41
  Now that Clark got bumped off Airplay one, I'm not interested
• 40:44
  in Clark. Do I think he has the chance to
• 40:46
  get it back? Yes.
• 40:47
  So if you can hold him and see how things shake out for like a
• 40:50
  week or two, then if you have the luxury to do that and do it.
• 40:53
  But I don't want him on my roster if he's not power play
• 40:55
  one. But at the same time, like I
• 40:57
  said, I'm not that interested in doubt either.
• 40:58
  So I feel like you could drop Clark for for someone else who
• 41:02
  just gets you like bangs at the worst case.
• 41:04
  I'm in this exact. Situation I have Clark.
• 41:06
  I streamed them when Daddy was out, when he was practicing on
• 41:10
  P1. I picked him up and now, you
• 41:12
  know, Daddy's on my waivers. He's still there.
• 41:14
  And I did not try to make the swap.
• 41:17
  And the logic for me is, I keep saying this, but I answered this
• 41:21
  on the Discord. Somebody was curious, but to me,
• 41:25
  Doughty has zero category value. Like, he's not shooting.
• 41:27
  He doesn't he doesn't block. OK, so the only reason why you
• 41:30
  want him is the deployment. You're like, OK, he's on P1.
• 41:32
  You wanna defence that's exposed to P1, he's the guy.
• 41:35
  But honestly, I think the floor is still so low that even if he
• 41:39
  gets a few points here and there, like the Bangor
• 41:43
  categories, that he's not hitting or just Clark is getting
• 41:46
  shots. He averages over two shots a
• 41:48
  game, which from a defenseman is still definitely noteworthy.
• 41:51
  And he actually does block. Like, he's not, he's not a
• 41:53
  hitter, but he'll get you like one to four blocks, edging on
• 41:56
  more 1:00 to 2:00. And I just think that I'd rather
• 42:00
  hold Clark with the foundation of the categories, the category
• 42:04
  coverage that is hitting with the upside that if he actually
• 42:07
  hits P1, I think he can actually do something with it as opposed
• 42:09
  to what daddy is currently doing with for it.
• 42:11
  So I'm not making that swap. It also costs you an extra AD in
• 42:14
  Azure Valuable and you want to be strategic with them
• 42:16
  throughout your week. So I'm not making the swap.
• 42:19
  If I had Dowdy and Clark was on my waivers, I'm not making that
• 42:22
  swap either. I'm probably just holding the
• 42:23
  one that I currently have and waiting to see how the situation
• 42:26
  plays out. But I think Clark has way more
• 42:28
  upside that I'd be more upset with myself if I made the swap
• 42:31
  and then Clark gets people 1 and I can't pick him up.
• 42:34
  Then if I just held Clark and doubt he just keeps it in does
• 42:37
  mediocre with it if that makes sense.
• 42:38
  Yeah, no, I fully agree. But realistically, if you don't
• 42:41
  have either of them, they're both on waivers.
• 42:42
  I'm not picking up either. They're just both watch list to
• 42:44
  me. OK.
• 42:46
  Yeah, that's. Fair, OK.
• 42:48
  Afghani Malkin is day-to-day with an upper body injury.
• 42:51
  Anthony Mantha takes his spot on power play one.
• 42:53
  I mean, hopefully this isn't a long term thing.
• 42:55
  We've been saying cell Malkin for the entire year.
• 42:57
  I'm not gonna pat ourselves on the back because he's day-to-day
• 42:59
  with enough for body entry. But he's still a huge sell high.
• 43:02
  And Mantha had that one streak where he was a solid weight like
• 43:05
  a streamer. And Pittsburgh has four games
• 43:07
  this week and next week. So I don't mind picking him up
• 43:10
  as long as you're aware that Malcolm could just come back and
• 43:12
  he would lose that power, play one spot.
• 43:15
  Yeah, I mean, Malkins had a very surprising year so far.
• 43:19
  So I I think that in addition to him being, you know, the veteran
• 43:24
  former superstar that he is like he is still going to get the the
• 43:28
  power play 1 for sure when when he comes back.
• 43:31
  Not too interested in mount there because of that.
• 43:33
  And yet we still maintain the cell high recommendation,
• 43:37
  although actually probably now is the best time because he's
• 43:39
  had five points in his last two games.
• 43:41
  So provided that the injury is not too severe, of course.
• 43:44
  Like if he comes, it's just a games, then yeah.
• 43:47
  I mean, pretty much on all fronts.
• 43:49
  That's it. Although his shots have been
• 43:51
  pretty nuts shots, his shots have been way better.
• 43:55
  So I don't know, maybe he like readjusted to the speed of the
• 43:58
  NHL and he's good again, but there's no way he's gonna be
• 44:00
  walking. I'm just not buying it.
• 44:01
  I'm not. Buying the Malkin resurgence
• 44:03
  that it's a season longer thing. No same.
• 44:05
  Not buying it. Either same here and.
• 44:07
  It doesn't make him. Not a sell, right?
• 44:09
  It's still getting milk. And he's like a future Hall of
• 44:11
  Famer, right? Like similar ideas to the other
• 44:15
  amazing guys just passed their prime.
• 44:17
  Nevertheless, yeah, Mantis not too excited by this.
• 44:20
  Yeah, talking about. Amazing guys who are still in
• 44:23
  their prime. I'm ending this news segment
• 44:26
  with a bang. David Pasternak and Charlie
• 44:29
  McAvoy are both practicing and expect to play sometime this
• 44:32
  week. On their three-game road trip.
• 44:34
  They'll bump Hampus Lindholm and Casey Middlestadt from Power
• 44:36
  Play 1. So Pasternak was day-to-day.
• 44:38
  There wasn't much news on him, but we saw him skating so it's
• 44:40
  not super surprising to see him back.
• 44:41
  Although very exciting for past the holders, McAvoy is a really
• 44:44
  surprising 1. He got his face just blasted in
• 44:48
  Montreal. Um, I don't know if we're doing
• 44:51
  phrasing, but that's kind of exactly what happened.
• 44:53
  I didn't know how else to say it.
• 44:55
  He is his whole facial fracture. He had to get a big surgery.
• 44:59
  He's only drinking like milkshakes, you know, or
• 45:03
  smoothies or whatever. And he lost like 20 lbs.
• 45:05
  Yeah, like liquids is the word I was looking for.
• 45:07
  I don't know why I went straight to milkshakes because they bring
• 45:09
  all the boys to the yard I guess.
• 45:14
  Yeah, honestly, I am. But yeah, so and there was just
• 45:17
  like, you know, it sounded super grim.
• 45:19
  It was like we're hoping he may be back for the Olympics, stuff
• 45:21
  like that. And then I don't know where it's
• 45:23
  like he's on the ice. OK, He's practicing, expected to
• 45:25
  play sometime this week. So yeah, this is super exciting
• 45:29
  if you're McCoy owner. Honestly, I was trying to buy
• 45:31
  low on him for for a while and I think the the window passed.
• 45:33
  So that kind of sucks for me because I didn't pull it off.
• 45:35
  And and yeah, as a Pasta and McAvoy owner, I'm super excited
• 45:39
  the HAMP Island home dream is dead.
• 45:40
  But I mean, we always knew that was a short term play anyways,
• 45:42
  and it wasn't the most exciting so.
• 45:44
  So yeah. But I'm excited because I just
• 45:46
  traded for pasta, so let's go make you play me.
• 45:49
  This happens. I feel like Josh is always
• 45:55
  talking about how like his opponents players are just
• 45:56
  getting healthy as he's about to play them and now it's the full,
• 45:59
  I mean, there's all the other shoe Couture off back so.
• 46:02
  OK. Gave us like a.
• 46:06
  Week. Either way, you're just you're.
• 46:10
  Happy to get pasta back and I guess the, the, the Steves line
• 46:15
  one, yeah, line one dynasty era is over and I will be
• 46:19
  interested. There's a few.
• 46:20
  Players who it'll be interesting to see how it impacts their
• 46:22
  value. I'm thinking Morgan Geekie,
• 46:24
  obviously the biggest name, Elias Lindholm and Pavel Zacha
• 46:27
  because I know that before the injury they were splitting up
• 46:30
  geeky and pasta and they had Elias Lindholm with pasta and
• 46:33
  Sacco with geeky. Since past has been out, it's
• 46:36
  been Linton with Kiki and then Zach all by himself and so but
• 46:40
  earlier in the season it was pasta, Elias Lindholm and geeky
• 46:44
  altogether. So it'll be interesting to see
• 46:46
  how that shakes out. If I had to guess, I'd say it
• 46:47
  would be the pastel into home and then geeky Zaka teams really
• 46:52
  like splitting up their their top 6.
• 46:54
  So so we'll see how it plays out, but I think it's very
• 46:57
  exciting for for me and for everyone.
• 46:59
  I don't know if anything. I'll just, I don't know if
• 47:01
  anything can stop Morgan Geekie at this point.
• 47:03
  And I think that's like one of the biggest wins for the Mega
• 47:05
  Management podcast because in the offseason, I don't know if
• 47:07
  anybody we talked about more, maybe it was him and Dylan.
• 47:10
  So, but it was it was way more geeky.
• 47:12
  I think just because of he was way more of a less known name, I
• 47:15
  would say. So I know that we're good.
• 47:17
  But it's crazy how good, you know what I mean?
• 47:20
  Like, no, that's this is like the most insane.
• 47:21
  Like he's 90% owned guys when I, I drafted him in the 13th round
• 47:24
  of our league and he was, I think like 20% owned.
• 47:28
  And like, that's crazy what he's doing.
• 47:30
  He's 22 goals so far this year. It's, it's nuts.
• 47:32
  So he's still, he's still an absolute.
• 47:34
  Cell hide. Don't get us wrong, we're not
• 47:35
  saying what he's doing now is full-fledged production for the
• 47:38
  rest of the season, but just the fact that he was such a big
• 47:40
  success and like, he's not gonna go back to 0 even if he does
• 47:43
  slow down. And also just the fact that
• 47:46
  you're able to sell him for what you can right now is a win in
• 47:49
  itself in terms of like drafting him or picking him up early in
• 47:51
  the season. So yeah, yeah, So Pat on the
• 47:54
  back. For us, Steve stays.
• 47:56
  Left wing Line 1 and it's Pastor Brooklyn home and Steves is
• 48:00
  she's going to be insane. I mean, he's been pretty pretty.
• 48:03
  Nuts, like he's been like bangers beast.
• 48:05
  He gets that left wing eligibility finally then yeah.
• 48:08
  I mean, he could be like, you know, Castle, it's been kind of
• 48:10
  a bangers beast this year, you know, with that sea right wing
• 48:12
  eligibility. So I could see it being a
• 48:13
  similar type of thing, except maybe Steve actually get some
• 48:15
  points. He's playing with Lincoln pasta.
• 48:17
  So yeah. And yeah, it's an interesting
• 48:19
  pickup for sure. He could become insane like.
• 48:22
  He was all my radar for awhile and I was just like, Nah,
• 48:24
  whatever. And then like, he got the line 1
• 48:26
  and I was like, oh, and now if Pasternak is obviously
• 48:30
  Pasternack, way better to play with in geeky.
• 48:32
  Like, no question about it. If he can, you know, get two
• 48:36
  shots a game, Steve's like, I mean, that's, that's only get
• 48:40
  one or 4. So picker, yeah, but his hits.
• 48:44
  Are insane so I don't know keep an eye out whoever plays left
• 48:48
  wing there because I don't think you're gonna do I just wanna
• 48:50
  preface this he's. Playing again.
• 48:52
  I'm playing against Steve this week so he's about to pop off 5
• 48:56
  point game. OK, let's do some would you
• 49:00
  rathers everyone's favorite time of the day or the week?
• 49:05
  I guess I was looking forward to this one.
• 49:07
  But would you rather So for those new here, I prepare 5.
• 49:12
  Would you rathers one of every position, centre and left wing,
• 49:15
  right wing, defenseman, goalie. And I try to split the
• 49:19
  difference between my cohosts. I want them to both pick each
• 49:22
  player and try to find the line for where these guys are are
• 49:26
  valued right now and I do my best.
• 49:28
  So let's get started with the centre position.
• 49:32
  Hopefully you guys didn't peak. We've talked about this earlier,
• 49:35
  no peeking, but get your, get your, get your apps ready
• 49:39
  because we're talking about centres.
• 49:42
  We talked about this on the podcast already.
• 49:43
  A little bit foreshadowing, but would you rather Braden point or
• 49:48
  Roope Hintz Rest of season OHS. Now, Brayden.
• 49:53
  Point is a projection at this point.
• 49:55
  We we, we're very confident in the bounce back ability, but
• 49:58
  Rupe hints, kind of feel like the bird in the hand right now.
• 50:02
  OK, I'm going with I gotta go with rope.
• 50:05
  And actually we were told in the discord discord that it's rope.
• 50:09
  So I know that Rupee is more fun to say, but I'm going to try and
• 50:12
  pronounce it better from now on. So rope I gotta go with him.
• 50:16
  Honestly, my biggest knock against him in past years has
• 50:18
  been that he doesn't shoot and he doesn't win many face offs
• 50:21
  from the centre position. And then this year he decided
• 50:23
  I'm going to shoot and I'm going to win more faceoffs from the
• 50:25
  centre position. Tag that onto the fact that
• 50:27
  Dallas is just insane. His spot in the lineup is locked
• 50:30
  in locked and he's never losing power play 1.
• 50:32
  So I still fully believe in the Point resurgence, but it's just
• 50:37
  so much safer to go with Hints who like if Point researches to
• 50:41
  what we expect, he's still going to be pretty similar to Hints,
• 50:44
  whereas Hints is already doing it.
• 50:46
  So that's why I'm going with him.
• 50:49
  Me too, yeah. I I it feels obvious to go
• 50:53
  points just because he's been so much better in years past.
• 50:55
  But even if you look at the last season, average point had 1.06
• 50:59
  points and 2.45 shots. This season roof rope has one
• 51:05
  point per game and 2.6 shots, so like and better face offs.
• 51:10
  So it's just to me all around like, you know, his hits have
• 51:14
  not been horrible either. And it's just there's too much
• 51:18
  for point to have to like make up for it.
• 51:21
  And I don't know, I mean, not to mention the fact that Tampa Bay
• 51:24
  has been able to succeed pretty well without points.
• 51:28
  And I, I think what's going to happen is that he's not going to
• 51:31
  play with Kucherov because really, you don't think?
• 51:34
  Brian Points gonna play with control?
• 51:35
  No, I think I mean keep. Hagel and Cooch and then they're
• 51:38
  gonna put Denzel with with points, which is not bad.
• 51:40
  It's not bad at all. But to get to where Brayden
• 51:44
  point needs to be to be as elite as last year, like a point per
• 51:47
  game plus no brainer. I think you need to be with
• 51:50
  coach, whereas he's hints is doing that with Robertson right
• 51:54
  now. Yep, still makes pretty.
• 51:58
  Important to buy low. By the way, like he's yeah, he
• 52:01
  can wait. Where's the line for Britain?
• 52:02
  Point, then would you? Would you rather point or
• 52:05
  Sebastian Aho? I think I gotta.
• 52:11
  I gotta check out those stats. I have kind of a thing against
• 52:14
  Aho unfairly. But but yeah, it's just the rod
• 52:17
  stink, I think, I think. Yeah, I'm going.
• 52:20
  I'm going point over. Rahul, I think.
• 52:22
  It's close enough though, but like that's like it's like the
• 52:26
  same thing is like so Chloe has been .87 last month and .93 on
• 52:32
  the season. That's where he could get to
• 52:34
  point point. So Aho is already doing that and
• 52:36
  he has done it in years past, Mark.
• 52:39
  Shifley, I think I'm going chiefly.
• 52:43
  Yeah, shipley's been. Considerably better than
• 52:46
  everybody we've been talking about, yeah, but it's.
• 52:49
  What you expect rest of? Season everybody's better than
• 52:51
  Britain point Yeah, but but he's.
• 52:53
  Also, like, he was just as good as Point last year, yeah.
• 52:58
  OK, at least some points per game.
• 53:00
  So you have to give us one that we're gonna take point.
• 53:02
  Over the other guy, Kevin, I mean I I said I'd take him over
• 53:04
  Iho so, but you need to find one that Jean, I think I think I.
• 53:07
  Mean you guys think I'm crazy for suggesting this, but like,
• 53:09
  what about Josh Norris? Yeah, I'm digging point over
• 53:12
  Norris. Yeah, easily.
• 53:14
  Easily that Kevin. Kevin, you're such a.
• 53:16
  Biased like some of your guys, like it's like we all love.
• 53:22
  Loris. Loris seems like a.
• 53:23
  Cool dude but like it's not like I'm taking points over 100.
• 53:27
  You're talking about about all these other players.
• 53:30
  I was curious because I think I think Britain point is like a
• 53:32
  point per game player rest of season when he hits his stride,
• 53:34
  like whether this is as soon as he comes back or in a week or
• 53:37
  two. But I think Josh Norris is like
• 53:39
  a .8 per game per game player. And he'll get maybe, probably
• 53:43
  more shots. The face off wins are
• 53:45
  negligible. He'll get more hits.
• 53:47
  He'll probably get more blocks. Yeah, actually the shots are.
• 53:49
  Negligible too, and the blocks are negligible.
• 53:51
  I'd say Norris is only pro for points as the hits, but the
• 53:53
  points for point make up for it. OK, no pointer.
• 53:57
  To virus. I'm taking point.
• 54:00
  Yeah, I'm. Taking point as well.
• 54:02
  Same same. So that's, that's a nice kind of
• 54:05
  line. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 54:07
  Alright, Kevin, you're over one. What do you got next?
• 54:10
  Alright. This next one is spicy only.
• 54:12
  Kevin, Kevin, are you taking? Points or rope?
• 54:15
  I think I want point, but if I. Have rope, rope, I'm doing rope
• 54:18
  plus, I'm getting point plus or percent.
• 54:21
  You know what I mean? Like I, I do think rope value is
• 54:24
  higher right now, but I'm expecting him to come back down
• 54:27
  to earth. We know him to be two shots a
• 54:30
  game and .9 and I think point when he's hitting on all
• 54:34
  cylinders, he's a 1.1 points per game player and he'll get more
• 54:37
  shots than two. So it's just about how, how much
• 54:40
  are you willing to take the L in the short term for the W in the
• 54:44
  long term, for sure. All right #2 we'll talk on the
• 54:47
  left wing. Would you rather Seth Jarvis or
• 54:52
  Matthew Nyes rest of season? I think I gotta go with.
• 54:58
  A Matthew Nice and I love Jarvis.
• 55:01
  These are this is like two players I really, really like.
• 55:02
  But what noise is doing is just unbelievable.
• 55:06
  And The thing is that I don't want to harp on the whole rod
• 55:09
  thing because we know that Jarvis couldn't withstand that.
• 55:12
  But the fact is that Jarvis is playing what, line 3 right now.
• 55:15
  Like it's just it's just he keeps getting bumped and it
• 55:18
  doesn't necessarily affect his production.
• 55:19
  He's still going to produce because he's just a really
• 55:21
  incredible player. But noise is being like an
• 55:23
  almost like a triple triple like he's like doing like 2.5 shots,
• 55:26
  2.5 hits over a point per game and the power play hasn't even
• 55:30
  started clicking yet. I know he's been getting bumped
• 55:32
  off and on of it, but like he's gonna be on it when it starts
• 55:34
  clicking. He's on it as of now and he's
• 55:36
  just what he's doing is unreal. And I mean if we're gonna keep
• 55:38
  patting ourselves on the back. We also talked about him a lot
• 55:40
  in the off season. This was more of an obvious one
• 55:42
  than Kiki, but but still. So see I'm going nice, but no
• 55:45
  shade to drive. I still think he's an amazing
• 55:47
  player. Yeah, same and.
• 55:49
  I have Jarvis, I like Jarvis a lot, but nice double double is
• 55:54
  nuts. I don't in a way because I think
• 55:57
  Caroline is letter and Rod is such a difficult coach to own
• 56:01
  players on his team for fantasy hockey.
• 56:03
  This makes it better to owe NYS because any offensive production
• 56:07
  Toronto is going to get, he's going to be a huge part of.
• 56:10
  Whereas Jarvis, it's like, yeah, he's immune to the Rod curse,
• 56:14
  but it's still such a bleep show over there as far as like who's
• 56:17
  getting points from where, Whereas Toronto is much more top
• 56:20
  heavy and is at the top with Matthews.
• 56:23
  So I'm going to also go nice here.
• 56:25
  Matthews hasn't even popped off. Yet this year, and like I said,
• 56:28
  the power plays nonexistent. So it's kind of crazy to say the
• 56:31
  guy was over a point per game, but I feel like he can still
• 56:33
  only go up from here. Yeah, but those.
• 56:36
  Are really. Like nice.
• 56:39
  No, I think the only question. For people were are they worried
• 56:43
  about the power play exposure? But the fact that he's able to
• 56:45
  average the amount of points that he's averaging without the
• 56:48
  power play just goes to show how important he is for this Maple
• 56:51
  Leafs team. And I mean, drivers was drafted
• 56:53
  significantly higher than him in almost every league, right?
• 56:56
  Like we touted NYS as you know, a candidate that we wanted to
• 57:00
  target in the drafts because we expected him his points to go up
• 57:03
  given the new deployment and also just the banger category
• 57:05
  coverage. We saw a glimpse of it last
• 57:07
  year. This year's full fledge out
• 57:08
  there. I I the he's he's actually 1.12
• 57:12
  points per game this season with 0.08 power play points.
• 57:16
  Yeah, those are like Brandon Hagel.
• 57:18
  Numbers. Literally it's.
• 57:20
  It's exactly Brandon Hagel numbers, except that he's
• 57:22
  actually on Power Play 1. So that's the that's the big
• 57:25
  difference there. I think it's definitely close
• 57:28
  though, because I think drivers has he he's just always good no
• 57:31
  matter where you where he plays, right.
• 57:33
  So I you do feel like you have a safe, a safe value there.
• 57:37
  And I don't think, I mean, at this point, you gotta bet on
• 57:40
  nice to hit a point per game at the end of the season, right?
• 57:42
  Like it, it just feels like it's it's meant to be at this point,
• 57:45
  even with the power play, positive regression.
• 57:47
  Like it just feels like he has so much wiggle room.
• 57:50
  Those drivers hit a point per game.
• 57:52
  I'm not sure. They're both gonna be around, I
• 57:55
  think. They both in his kids.
• 57:57
  I believe. In Neises hits more and probably
• 58:01
  safer to hit a point where game as well.
• 58:02
  So what if it was Genzel versus Nice?
• 58:07
  I think I'm still going. Nice, just for the extra hits.
• 58:12
  Yeah, I mean. Gentil will get slightly more
• 58:14
  shots but Nice will get significantly more hits and I
• 58:16
  don't see the points being that different but just because it's
• 58:19
  more power. Was going to say the power play
• 58:20
  points is actually a big a big thing for Gensel.
• 58:23
  So, OK, so. Maybe I will cancel because.
• 58:26
  Of the power play points, that's that's actually a big swing,
• 58:28
  You're right, yeah. Sam, close enough for me.
• 58:33
  Alright, let's touch on the right wing position.
• 58:35
  This one I feel like could be the most lopsided one out there.
• 58:38
  So I'm actually very curious. I just want to have the
• 58:40
  conversation here. But Josh Norris, I know he's not
• 58:42
  a right wing Josh Norris or Connor McDavid.
• 58:48
  Connor McDavid, obviously no recent.
• 58:52
  Recent. Bounce back candidate JT Miller
• 58:55
  or Willy Nielander Easy meal under for.
• 58:58
  Me. Hmm.
• 59:02
  I don't. I mean, wait, which way did you
• 59:06
  think that would be love sided? I'm caring.
• 59:08
  Everybody was gonna go Nylander. Yeah, this is.
• 59:12
  To me this is not even close. And this, I mean, to be fair,
• 59:15
  I'm a certified number one JT Miller hater fan, fan club
• 59:18
  hater, you know, but yeah, and I, I know JT had a solid week
• 59:21
  class. So we put up.
• 59:22
  Yeah, you did have a solid week. So is this.
• 59:23
  And he was the first round pick. So we're kind of like, OK.
• 59:26
  Or is he, is he finally putting it together?
• 59:27
  All the other Rangers are doing well.
• 59:29
  He's the only one missing. Nah, he's I feel.
• 59:31
  Like, I mean, look, I do think he's still a buy low.
• 59:33
  I think he's gonna have a solid season.
• 59:35
  But I think that Nylander is just the point.
• 59:38
  Like, so J Miller was drafted in the first round because of his
• 59:41
  back hats, which are really, really good, and the hope that
• 59:44
  he would jump from being like, you know, last year he was point
• 59:47
  per game to being like, let's say like something crazy, like
• 59:49
  100 points, something like that, Right?
• 59:50
  I think I'm very comfortable saying that's not happening.
• 59:53
  OK. Now it's like, can he even hit
• 59:55
  point per game? I think that's his ceiling
• 59:56
  points wise for the season. And I think he can.
• 59:59
  I think that's why he's a below. I think Nylander is easily going
• 1:00:01
  to be like 1.21.3 even on points per game.
• 1:00:05
  Really gets more. Yeah, I think he was at 1.04
• 1:00:09
  Nylander. Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  OK. But he has 1.5.
• 1:00:12
  Like a few weeks ago, I know he's slowed down, OK, maybe not,
• 1:00:14
  maybe not 1.3, but I'm confident he could be 1.2, OK.
• 1:00:17
  And then Nylander gets more shots than JT, so J's just got.
• 1:00:20
  And also, like, I know the power play hasn't even popped off yet
• 1:00:23
  for Toronto, but it's going to at some point it's gonna click.
• 1:00:27
  And look, I'm not expecting it to become the best power play in
• 1:00:29
  the league or anything like that, but that's just going to
• 1:00:31
  add on to his totals. I'm pretty confident comfortable
• 1:00:33
  going Neil under there. I don't.
• 1:00:36
  Come the playoffs, you'd rather kneel under on your team than T
• 1:00:39
  I mean, yes. I mean, it also depends on your
• 1:00:41
  like, leak settings and how your team is structured.
• 1:00:44
  JT can when you, you know, face off wins and hits on on his own
• 1:00:48
  in the playoffs, which is pretty nice.
• 1:00:50
  But Neil Anders gonna do way more for you for points.
• 1:00:52
  He's gonna do way more for you for shots.
• 1:00:54
  And yeah, no, I'm I'm easily going Nylander even with the
• 1:00:57
  playoff schedule. OK, I think.
• 1:00:59
  You're right, I think I've been convinced.
• 1:01:01
  But. I don't think it's that
• 1:01:02
  lopsided. Either I think it's definitely
• 1:01:06
  worth the question. I think I think JT has the
• 1:01:07
  underlying metrics and I think he still has room to grow.
• 1:01:10
  He was our first round pick for a reason and he's got a way
• 1:01:12
  better playoff schedule. Yeah, and you look.
• 1:01:15
  Like resurgence is do happen. Like up until a week ago,
• 1:01:20
  Talismanic. Players.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, that is all. Well, yes, yeah, seriously, I I
• 1:01:25
  thought. For instance, like Sam Bennett,
• 1:01:27
  who I picked in the sixth round was the worst pick of all time
• 1:01:29
  and now he's insane. Like JT Miller's way better than
• 1:01:32
  Sam Bennett is. So I feel like if if you know,
• 1:01:35
  this could happen there, why can't it happen in New York,
• 1:01:39
  right? What's the playoff schedule?
• 1:01:41
  This is not so like that's why I'm thinking.
• 1:01:42
  But Willie's good. Like I actually like Neelah was
• 1:01:45
  great. If you ask Marner, I would take
• 1:01:48
  JT over Marner. I don't think I don't know where
• 1:01:51
  you stand. My alternative was.
• 1:01:52
  Reinhart or Nylander, I would take it and we'll.
• 1:01:56
  Move on to the next ones, but. Just give me your one.
• 1:01:57
  Yeah, 100 Nielander. I'm.
• 1:01:59
  Happy with them Over. Well, first of all, Nielander
• 1:02:02
  over Reinhart, I think. I think Nylander is really
• 1:02:04
  thinking, yeah. I'm going Lander as well.
• 1:02:07
  Oh, I thought you meant JT. It was gonna be Reinhardt
• 1:02:10
  versus. Dylan, there was my original 1
• 1:02:13
  Be in there. All right, let's.
• 1:02:17
  Talk defenseman now, OK. Would you rather?
• 1:02:20
  Matthew Schaefer or Seth Jones rest of season?
• 1:02:25
  Oh, that's a good one. I feel like I feel like to like
• 1:02:31
  most people, the obvious answer is Schaefer, right?
• 1:02:34
  He slowed down. I.
• 1:02:34
  Don't know that's. Question.
• 1:02:37
  To me. As the Jones owner, I think I'm.
• 1:02:41
  Going Jones and I. Know, like, I'm obviously biased
• 1:02:43
  and he's gone through stretches of being awful, right?
• 1:02:45
  But this Florida team seems really to be waking up.
• 1:02:48
  He has throughout all the thick and thin of the season, he has
• 1:02:50
  never lost power. Play one.
• 1:02:52
  There's been so many changes every forward, I think other
• 1:02:55
  than Reinhart. No, I know, but I'm saying like
• 1:02:58
  like Jones has powerfully unlock just like Shaffer does.
• 1:03:01
  But what are the power play on defence in on Florida or the
• 1:03:04
  power on defence on the Islanders?
• 1:03:05
  Give me Florida. No question.
• 1:03:07
  Matthew could. Chuck is on the verge of coming
• 1:03:09
  back for me. For me it's Jones.
• 1:03:11
  Cat coverage wise, they're both really good shooters.
• 1:03:13
  I'll give the edge to to Shafer on shots and then back at like
• 1:03:17
  hits and blocks. I'll give the edge to Jones, but
• 1:03:18
  it's not like it's that big of a difference.
• 1:03:20
  But I just, I like the power play one quarterback on Florida
• 1:03:23
  more than Islanders, Yeah. The the difference has been
• 1:03:27
  split. I'm going Shaver, you said so.
• 1:03:31
  High oil ago. Not getting yeah, but and I
• 1:03:33
  double checked. That was week 4 and Jones is not
• 1:03:37
  one of the targets so I feel OK about this but but.
• 1:03:40
  All this. To say, I think that the reason
• 1:03:43
  I would go Schaefer here is because they just like the the
• 1:03:47
  whole purpose of this organization is to make him
• 1:03:49
  good. So you know, we I am still a
• 1:03:53
  firm believer purpose is to win. No, I'm with JK.
• 1:03:56
  On this, it's no, it's literally it's.
• 1:03:58
  Literally to make him good like there, I don't think there gonna
• 1:04:01
  be a playoff team and I think like like it will come in waves,
• 1:04:04
  but it's gonna average out to being more useful than Jones.
• 1:04:09
  And so far as like right now they're third in the
• 1:04:12
  metropolitan, which is pretty insane.
• 1:04:14
  They're ahead of the Rangers, Pittsburgh and Devils.
• 1:04:16
  Like get out of town. I don't think that's going to
• 1:04:18
  stick, but I still I still think that they're gonna like do
• 1:04:21
  everything possible to keep feeding him in the opportunities
• 1:04:24
  as shots blocks are similar to Jones.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah, I just, I like it. I like it a lot.
• 1:04:30
  I think like they're gonna really try to make him the best,
• 1:04:34
  one of the best defensemen in the NHL in like 2-3 years.
• 1:04:36
  And this year is just about building his confidence and, you
• 1:04:39
  know, that's it. So I'm going to go shaver.
• 1:04:42
  It's the difference to me, this comes down to the very similar
• 1:04:48
  and I think I want to bet on the one who I believe the PowerPoint
• 1:04:52
  will be better long term and that's why I'm going Jones.
• 1:04:54
  So yeah, that's, yeah, that's. Fair you hate me but.
• 1:04:59
  Listen, I hope you. Listen to us when the wind
• 1:05:00
  Shaffer was a cell high earlier in the season because, listen,
• 1:05:04
  he was popping off. And obviously he's a great
• 1:05:05
  player. But whenever you have the
• 1:05:07
  opportunity to tear up, it's just a reminder.
• 1:05:08
  Like these guys do come back down to earth.
• 1:05:10
  Like no matter how good you think they're going to be, they
• 1:05:12
  always come back down to earth. And yeah, all right, the boat
• 1:05:16
  goes down both. Doesn't come down sometimes.
• 1:05:18
  Bob becomes rocket ship as well. So all right, Dan tackling the
• 1:05:23
  goalie position. This is a spicy one because we
• 1:05:25
  heard some trade rumors, but would you rather Stuart Skinner
• 1:05:28
  or Trustees Jari? Rest of season, everything.
• 1:05:32
  About This is horrible, you know, I just want to say what I
• 1:05:38
  drafted Skinner. You were like, I think he's
• 1:05:40
  useless. And then that's not what
• 1:05:42
  eventually, no. This is a classic.
• 1:05:44
  Kevin, Jake. He gets in your head, Kevin's
• 1:05:46
  like, oh, Pickard's gonna be the starter.
• 1:05:48
  Skinner sucks, JK believe you drafted him.
• 1:05:50
  Meanwhile in his head, he's like, damn, I wish I had gotten
• 1:05:52
  him. And then the second you dropped,
• 1:05:53
  he snaps him up and he's like, Skinner is the best goalie in
• 1:05:55
  the world. I can't believe you, Trump.
• 1:05:57
  Told this is fake news I remember what was true.
• 1:06:01
  What Jake dropped the Skinner. I literally told him I was
• 1:06:03
  planning on dropping him the same round that he took him.
• 1:06:05
  Like you also said that you thought picked was gonna.
• 1:06:06
  Take the starting job, and I know you didn't actually think
• 1:06:08
  that you're like that like the locker room loves.
• 1:06:11
  Him. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah. Talking about Wedgewood because
• 1:06:15
  The Long Room doesn't Wedgewood. No, you were talking about
• 1:06:18
  Picard. It was, yeah, it was horrible.
• 1:06:20
  It was this was Listen I didn't expect.
• 1:06:22
  Picard to be awful on the ice listen, you have to reevaluate
• 1:06:25
  part of being a good fantasy analyst is reevaluating your
• 1:06:28
  takes and Skinner is the best goal in the league right now so
• 1:06:31
  good friend doesn't it's. Not hating on your friend's
• 1:06:34
  draft picks and then when they dropped them, picking them up
• 1:06:38
  and then offering me for him to me for peanuts.
• 1:06:41
  Actually, no, it was not. Peanuts.
• 1:06:45
  I forgot the. Trade.
• 1:06:46
  All this to say, Skinner right now to me is is obviously on a
• 1:06:51
  bit of a hot streak and he's playing well.
• 1:06:54
  I wouldn't call it a hot streak. I think he's playing well
• 1:06:57
  compared to whatever streak. Does for the rest of the play.
• 1:07:01
  It feels. Like really intense, like he's.
• 1:07:03
  Won two out of three games and you know and go watch started
• 1:07:07
  streak. Yeah, yeah, that's good.
• 1:07:09
  In his past. 5 starts, he was over 98 percentage in all of
• 1:07:12
  them and he had a shutout in A95958 in two different games.
• 1:07:17
  He's ridiculous. So obviously he's been good.
• 1:07:20
  Jerry's also been on a tear so these to me are like 2 goalies
• 1:07:24
  who are bad playing on actually decent teams and where in real
• 1:07:29
  life they might get. Treated for each other, Yeah, I
• 1:07:32
  like. I like Edmonton better, so I'm
• 1:07:34
  gonna go Skinner. That's honestly the truth, but I
• 1:07:38
  think they're both bad. Was very think of you taking.
• 1:07:40
  Yeah, see, listen, hear that viewers like Jakey, even though
• 1:07:46
  it breaks his heart to say it, he will still give you the best
• 1:07:48
  fantasy advice that he can. And I also agree with the with
• 1:07:51
  the Skinner over Jerry. But I will say I'm not buying
• 1:07:53
  the Skinners all of a sudden the best girl in the world.
• 1:07:55
  I think it's only a matter of time before he puts you multiple
• 1:07:59
  times by text to Jakey trying to wear him down and ruin his life.
• 1:08:03
  But. I'm just like I.
• 1:08:06
  Just can't wait for Kevin to get skinned, that's all I'm going to
• 1:08:08
  say. It's gonna happen and he's going
• 1:08:10
  to put up a .500 and torpedo his whole goalie stats for the week
• 1:08:13
  and Kevin's going to be like shocked Pikachu face and me and
• 1:08:16
  you are gonna be laughing face I.
• 1:08:17
  Am I know that that that is one of the outcomes?
• 1:08:21
  No, but. Right now I am going Skinner
• 1:08:22
  over Jerry, Would you? Would you be willing to receive
• 1:08:26
  back anything worse than a first round pick if you send Skinner
• 1:08:29
  and Josh Norris? No, obviously not.
• 1:08:34
  That's what I'm saying. Skinner and Josh Norris.
• 1:08:38
  No. Damn Jackie, don't fleece him.
• 1:08:42
  Do you think we should split? Yeah, Kevin, who's your who?
• 1:08:44
  Do you pick in there? No Skinner for sure.
• 1:08:46
  I I just. Feel like it's the it's the you.
• 1:08:49
  Anyways, thank you. All for listening.
• 1:08:51
  Thank you. I think Walt Bad I.
• 1:08:55
  Honestly think this Edmonton team is about to go on a hot
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  stretch. Josh has both guys on his team
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  by both guys I mean he's got to make dry.
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  So there's nothing there's nothing stopping Edmonton right
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  now and I'm I'm open to writing the code tails of Stuart Skinner
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  getting just those dubs. So, and you might be thinking
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  Josh has. McDavid and decided he must have
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  no other top 7 picks on his team, right?
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  That's exactly what everybody's. Thinking.
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  Have you met Matthews and Pasternak, my third and 4th best
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  player? Everything about the last two
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  minutes of of this whole thing were devastating, OK?
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  OK, you can get the I'll. Just keep Steward Skinner.
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