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3YPC-THE OFFSEASON Ep. 3.42 · 3 Yards Per Carry - Miami Dolphins

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to The Offsies, a show covering the mighty Gulf, the NFL, pop culture, drinking culture and of course.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I show you how, you're your host, Alphar Tia, in myself.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're on this is The Offsies in, with Marit Brave and myself.
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• 0:32
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• 0:37
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• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, action packed, this is going to be an action packed show how much time do we have.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to know.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Usually we want to be under under 40 minutes ideally 50.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes we've gone a little longer.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: We go under 50 minutes.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: This we have so much shit to talk about on this show that we might go an hour.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even know if you like golf.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you like golf, I like the master.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's master's week.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to talk golf, we could do that.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: We could talk to the very hot New York match right now.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're so much to talk about, Alphine.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, what is it?
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: April 8th, like the NFL drafts coming up here, but other than that, what else is there going on in the NFL?
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right, everything.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because the NFL dominates the news cycle 365 days a year and just when you think you're hitting a low or some downtime, you get a whole bunch of NFL stories hitting the news wire this week.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's spend just, you know, the, the name of the show is the off season.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, which off season we're talking about, we're talking about the Dolphins off season.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, let's just mix in a little bit of Dolphins here.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jeff Haffley met with the media.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I assume you already, you saw it.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a two or fourous performance.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm, I've gotten too used to Mike McDaniely, but I don't think that it's, it's crazy to say he is the, and we're going to talk about a lot about communicating on this show.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Especially in the second half when we talk about seeing punk and Stephanie McMahon.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But as a communicator, I don't think we've ever had a coach and this goes right back to Shewlett because Shewlett was just intimidating and he kind of hated the media.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then you had that series of, Jimmy Johnson was pretty good with the media but he was also very, very short with the media.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And back then, people forget back then, there wasn't so much thing as daily press conferences.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you were a reporter, you had to go into the locker room after practice and this is in training camp and you had to go seek out the coach for comment and sometimes the coach is saying, no, I'm not talking today and he wouldn't talk for for weeks on end, you know, but maybe you could talk to the players at their at their locker if they wanted to.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But daily press conferences, that's really only a thing that's been going on for less
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, as a as a as a mandatory practice.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now in season, yes, in season, it used to be like once a week is what she'll use to do in Jimmy Johnson used to do.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then it became a more regular thing.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Bill Belichick for the most part used to do once a week.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then it was more often as the NFL rewrote some of their media availability rules.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: But this new phenomenon of the head coach as a press conference, mainstay, like a daily thing, like this is just a new thing.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's just take the new guys.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought Adam Gase was pretty good one on one.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not very good in that press conference setting, but he was kind of hostile with the media, especially after losses and toward the end of his tenure here.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: When it was obvious, he was on the way out.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: it was hostile from day one.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was hostile to everybody and anybody.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get into Mike McDaniel who everybody likes, but his press conferences were kind of meandering and toward the end it came passive aggressive and kind of was writing the writing writing on the writing was beginning to appear on the wall that he was on the way out and he just started with that little passive aggressive tone toward the end of his tenure here.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's better than all of them.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if this is going to count for anything, if this communication skills are going to count for anything, then I think we've got a good one, you know?
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, so far so good, especially in his debut with players in the building, your thoughts on that press conference.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Merit.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, as somebody who writes about the Miami Dolphins for the Finn Cider, those Mike McDaniel Pressers were a fucking nightmare.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Having to edit out all of his ooms and as and as and all of that stuff was, it literally just took up my entire day, you know?
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just putting the ellipses, the three dots there, every single time he went on a diet
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: without saying anything really, just so I could get to the points he was making.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like yesterday, with Jeff Haffley addressing the South Florida media, I think we learned more in that half hour with Jeff Haffley than we might have learned during Mike McDaniel's entire last season with the Miami Dolphins, just because you're right, Mike McDaniel,
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: like to feed us a lot of word salad.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was beaten around the bush.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to say a whole lot without saying anything at all.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like Jeff Haffley is kind of the opposite of that.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jeff Haffley is going to give it to you straight and not just Haffley, but John Eric Sullivan as well.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: These guys feel like they are on the same page, which is a great thing.
• 6:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: To be expected at the start, hopefully they continue.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: down that same path, but you know, John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Haffley, they're going to tell you like it is.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like they've been honest with us and so far their actions have backed up their words.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping that continues as the season as the off season rolls on and the season kicks off here and you know, we're not we're in that honeymoon period right.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We like everybody when they first show up and then all of a sudden the losses start piling up and this player's disgruntled and that player's disgruntled and all of a sudden we're trying to figure out who we're pointing the finger at.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But so far, so good for our new head coach, Chef Haffley and I'd agree with the Alph that he is a real solid communicator and somebody who makes our jobs as people who cover the team makes our jobs a little bit easier.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, as that much news is made in that press conference, but he did reveal like, you know, and I thought that he handled it perfectly.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's something that Mike McDaniel would have not handled well and would have had allowed it to fester, which is Devon A. Chan's absence.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: He essentially said, yeah, this is just something that happens and you kind of put it and I thought it was the right approach in my opinion, because he completely diffused
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, expect the Von H and the be there and no, he wasn't and I don't think he's going to be participating in much of the offseason program I think and he's looking for a new contract ready.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're running back here.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm told that that's something that's going to happen for training camp for the summer post draft.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: is what it is and that's good and and we hope that happens to is one of the most electric offensive weapons in the entire national football league and if you look at the Miami Dolphins roster right now pretty devoid of offensive weaponry so you got a lock HNN for his his his prime years you know he he's reaching those prime years for an NFL running back before he gets a little bit over the hill so
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hope and they lock them in.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am also not concerned about Devon Hian's absence as of yet, you know, if this stretch is into the later portions of the off season, then maybe that's a different conversation, but in early April, it's a nothing burger.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, moving on, the NFL, it like man, there's a reason it fell turns.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there's a reason why Mike Floreo, Mike Floreo's gossip site, you know, has been as is able to pay for his Minnesota country house that he has, that you see every once and a while on his videos.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Mike Floreo is a rich man and there's a reason for that.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's because the NFL has a
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is there a bet?
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the NBA is a better gossip sport.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wrestling doesn't count because wrestling is like built on gossip is built on gossip, right?
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like if we did a wrestling gossip site we would just be like everybody else.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like if we started a wrestling gossip site people would be like another one.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, but in the NFL if you have a gossip site, you're like kind of unique because there's very very few of them like maybe one or two and most of them are like internet personalities Mike Floria has an actual outfit that's attached to an NFL partner NBC
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So something breaks yesterday and it's odd how it breaks, right?
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just pictures showing up and then it's the New York Post.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So somebody had to take those pictures and with the photo lens, you know, from distance of Mike Rabel and NFL insider Diana
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: allegedly allegedly and there's all kinds of unprofessional implications there but the story gets better because they're both still married and here's my issue with it and then I'll get your thoughts on this because this is like look just going on Twitter and just search it and the details are you're getting from from there are
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Salacious and interesting all of it in of itself, but my issue with that is this.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's somebody that gets off the record, has off the record conversations with, had coaches, owners, agents, players.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And now she's going to be dating,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and NFL Head Coach from a competing team.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're just supposed to trust that she's gonna be completely professional and not say a word to Adam.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Duffel.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're following Eagles fans this the last two days, they're showing ample, ample evidence that she's has tried to massage the A.J.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Brown situation a bit in New England's favor.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: choice of words there?
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so consider me suspicious and let me just say I believe that this should end her media career.
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and, you know, you hate to call for somebody's head, but it does come across as extremely unprofessional.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think their story is, is oh, they just happened to be at the same resort as at the same time.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was with her friends.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was with his friends.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: get you see them you know maybe maybe they shake hands right we have a picture of them holding hands me oh hey good to see you catch them at a weird time then there's a picture of them hogging which you know isn't too far outside of the norm a little bit a little bit sketchy
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then the third picture is them in their bathing suits side-by-side on little pool chairs or on floaties even in the pool side-by-side and there is not another person to be found in that photo.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think if you're greeting each other you recognize each other you say hello yeah that's cool.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then as soon as you decide to spend an entire day hanging out in your swimsuits in the pool side-by-side,
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're starting to question what's going on here, you know what I mean like what is this really some innocuous meeting that happened by chance or is there something deeper happening at play here and and I think Eagles fans who are
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: questioning her reporting regarding the AJ Brown potential trade and you know we all know the New England Patriots have been hot on on the trail of AJ Brown in terms of trying to make a deal happen this off season you do start to question what's going on here and and why did she have some of the takes that she has and and I saw something earlier today about
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was posted in in the discord alf somebody talking about how she was she was saying that Morgan Moses was Released by the jets, but in the graphic of the release it had a Patriots logo in there Yeah, you know was it was did he eventually sign with the Patriots alf or is he still a free agent or what's the deal there?
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe so I believe he's signed with the Patriots
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So clearly she's getting some inside information from somebody that maybe getting some inside information from her if you know what I'm inferring and it's it's not a good look for the league it's certainly not a good look for her or Mike Rabel and I as a Miami Dolphins fan and just giddy that it's not happening to us for once I'm giddy that it's finally happening
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe not even finally, happening once again to the New England Patriots, because they've had their fair share of scandals as well.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just got covered up by Super Bowl victories over the past 20 years.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's another issue with all of this.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've actually gone out and been proactive about this and they're using the Shaggy defense.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's me?
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't me and they're hoping that this is just going to diffuse the whole situation in a day and I don't think that that's going to happen she's going to have to go to training camps she's going to have to go meet with players like this is not over and I don't know what the next step is but I don't I don't think that the what it wasn't me defense is going to work in this regard.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, what do you think this goes next and what this have some league implications because she's a completely credentialed, maybe a member.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's like credentialed to every single thing.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's going to have to fall on the sword for this one off.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unless they dig deeper and they find some pretty scandalous
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Text exchanges or email exchanges regarding inside info and her trying to, you know, to bar the phrase you just said massage certain situations in variables favor.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't see variables.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: getting much flack from this, but receiving herself as a journalist, right?
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: As somebody who's supposed to remain impartial in these situations, if she's doing this kind of thing with variable in order to get inside information or in order to, uh,
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: steer players like an AJ Brown to the Patriots on a cheaper for cheaper conversation that's pretty unethical for her position and what she does for a living and I could really see this backfiring for her and and
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, it's probably going to lead to her taking a leave of absence here soon from her position and we'll see where she she surfaces after that, but there's a lot of stuff online that this isn't her first rodeo in situations like this that she may she may choose to interact with certain people in certain ways allegedly, once again allegedly in exchange for insider information, which
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a good look.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not a good look.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twitter is really the worst place on Earth that you could think of.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: You should be attached to any of this.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you do a misdeed and your name gets on to Twitter.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Twitter has a way of like really making this best.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go to break.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll come back.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk a little bit of wrestling.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about actually things that are, you know.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit more real than what this story actually is that felt like, but first these words, and we're back.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Enough of the anniversary and, and by the way, it's in it, isn't it a coincidence it's always the fucking Patriots that are involved in, like, all of the shit, you know?
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then I also, I also found it hilarious.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that outfit too much, but I thought that it was funny that bar stool, they spike the story that like, come on, that they're a gossip site, and they completely spike the story.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then they port noise, the boss of bar stool.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: El Presidente comes out and says,
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you damn right.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I spiked it because I'm a patriot's right.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, at least he's honest and he sees us.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll go with that.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in the wrestling world, this week earlier this week, I was met with and on our discord, somebody posted,
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like they're finally moving to take us after they've cut them in half twice.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess something good has come come of it.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I said, yeah, I'm usually skeptical whenever I see a headline on YouTube that says, scathing promo cut by by such and such wrestler, right?
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm skeptical, but I'm, but I tune in.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, to see, you know, what he actually said,
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's directed from CM Punk to Roman Reigns.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that ProMults couldn't be effective against somebody that has an underlying condition.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: We know Roman has, what he's in remission now, had leukemia.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought, you know, you can't cut an absence promo when the guy can't, you know, per take in a full schedule due to his condition.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: But this works like he completely trashes him from start to finish.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's some in you endow there.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Goes after Pat McAfee again.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: What did you make of that promo?
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously,
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was given the go ahead.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is Triple H telling him, go ahead, you could do whatever you want on this promo, you got whatever.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it clocked in because like entrances take forever.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it clocked in like I had a tight 10 minutes of talking.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is obviously something that he had in his head that he wanted to say.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's such a pro that he managed to, I don't know if they're looking at a clock or they look at the camera, the camera, the camera, like the one that follows you around, does have a clock under the lens.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you could look at the clock, and I guess you could time your promo by looking at that clock, but there's a perfectly timed 10 minute delivery.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, now I'm all of a sudden I'm interested in watching this match again and see it.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Roman Reigns, let's one punch go.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see if that ends up happening, but very reminiscent of the original Pipe Bomb promo.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not as scathing as the original Pipe Bomb promo, but he was shooting from the hip on certain topics.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you know, going after Roman Reigns to sell the match in particular, I found
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: critiques of Pat McAfee pretty interesting as well because Pat McAfee has nothing to do with his storyline for the most part, you know what I mean?
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now they're kind of going back and forward that if you saw Pat McAfee on his show yesterday he said, oh well you weren't selling ticket CM Punk so I had to be the one to come in and do it, you know.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have a little bit of intrigue in the build to WrestleMania and there's a few more episodes of RAW and SmackDown to go.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure we're going to continue to get these types of promos interactions from these guys.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: My favorite part of the entire.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: punk promo was when he went after TKO.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: His boss is employers, you know what I mean?
• 22:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he talked a little shit about the rock along the way too saying he used to be a movie star inferring that he no longer is.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're looking at box offices, he's not too far off in that assessment.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But in terms of going after TKO for the ticket prices,
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I've been saying that shit for the last year.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: They needed to do this.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, out, there's the reason they've cut ticket prices for WrestleMania two separate times now, because they're not moving them because you're trying to sell to that rich UFC crowd audience, right, where you get the big celebrities coming out to it, but what you've got to understand is you're trying to sell a couple hundred thousand tickets to WrestleMania, right?
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: for WrestleMania on night one and night two.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to sell to the regular working class blue collar folks as well and more importantly, and more importantly, you're trying not to fleece them.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they can part, so they can partake in the events that you have around WrestleMania, maybe by Merch.
• 23:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because, all right, we need to buy Merch.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to buy Merch.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, T-Shirt's going to run your 35 bucks, okay?
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: got forbidden by anything else.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be into the hundreds.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you do an autograph line, you could spend $1,000.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you go to WrestleMania and you're going to go get autographs and you're going to buy merch, you're going to spend $1,000.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think TKO needs to realize and maybe this entire situation is going to help them realize maybe this punk promo is going to help them realize that the wrestling your core wrestling fan base can't afford that it's not the same as the UFC fan base it's not the same as
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: NFL NBA.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the same as people going to a Taylor Swift concert.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're trying to sell tickets to multiple events every single week.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let alone these big name events like WrestleMania and Summerslam and whatever you're going to go do in Saudi, you can't price your core fan base out of the market.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when a lot of your core fan base is adults
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: and tickets are $800 a piece.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They can't afford to go.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's four or five tickets at $800 a piece.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not just one, not just two.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's ridiculous.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought punk bringing a lot of that stuff out there or putting it in the forefront was not only good for wrestling as a whole, but very good for this.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: particular build and if WWE can use this and kind of build on this moving forward to get a little bit of their edge back, you know, harking back to the attitude era a little bit.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you know what it reminded me of kind of right him going after his own bosses and and some of the other CEOs around.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: around the business world.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You remember when Triple H and China and Shawn Michaels did the one promo where they literally read the letter from the USA executives on Monday night raw where they said you can't say this, you can't do that.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was verbatim.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was just reading the letter that the USA network had sent WWE at the time talking about how
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the contents getting a little too vulgar and what did the USA network do when they they saw that promo?
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: They turned around and said that shit's hilarious keep doing that.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: We actually kind of liked it And so who knows maybe maybe punk reaches the right ears and we see a change in the pricing of these tickets moving forward because right now I feel like it's a slippery slope and they're they're heading towards a decline especially in
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: with the way the economy's going right now too.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not the time for people to be blowing $34,000 on professional wrestling tickets.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know when he talked about the,
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: the ticket prices.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he mentioned it twice.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like like he really wanted to keep it as, you know, you wanted to emphasize like, okay, this is how I'm finishing the promo.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And usually that's what people are going to remember is how you finished, right?
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: after WrestleMania.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he was kind of saying, like, look, you guys didn't have to go through what everybody else has gone through as far as buying tickets.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe this is the way forward.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you talk about TKO.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's happening with UFC as well.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like forget, like look, UFC's gonna be in Miami this weekend.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, they're gonna have their annual Miami event.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus Christ, you gotta go look at those tickets.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like those things are overpriced.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And look, I think it's when you become a corporate entity.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's no longer a mom and pop business.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It happens, it happens kind of simultaneously, right?
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have seen, got put into the fold with TKO, and then WDB got fold it in as well.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they all fell under that umbrella.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: They became corporate entities.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now, you know, everything is the bottom dollar and what you can show as far as profitability from quarter to quarter.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the control is no longer there.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you get the sense that, because we kind of know that the UFC's being run by suits now, it's not really the end of why it anymore.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: The end of why it is kind of like a figurehead in Hunter Campbell.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oddly enough, somebody called Hunter is the one who suits running the UFC, right?
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's Hunter Campbell, it's the Saudis, okay?
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And,
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: because Turkey Aleshek is now has his fingers all over Zufu boxing as well.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's basically funding it.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that, and now we know that WWE is going to Saudi Arabia next year for WrestleMania?
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that it is just because these corporate entities have gotten their hooks into both UFC and WWE that it's kind of lost?
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so really both yeah, both things.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, and that I've been saying that for a while now as somebody who's been involved in the professional wrestling business for 22 and a half years.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never in my, you know, over two decades in this business.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never felt like this
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: art form and it really is an art form, right?
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's life performance.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's life theater.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's athleticism, mix with theater, happening in front of a live audience.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's theater in the round.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: This art form I've never felt the art form was governed by the almighty dollar more so than I do right now.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like it's heading into a dark place and I'm really hoping that somebody
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: instead of trying to maximize profits right now in squeeze every single cent out of your consumer.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, it's better to remain consistent have have a pricing somewhere in the middle ground, right?
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because this this still is a spectacle.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a destination form of entertainment.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: People still want to go.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to charge, you know,
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: bottom of the barrel prices here.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you can go back to being somewhere in the middle, you have longevity.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are going to hook these people for the rest of their lives.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you do in professional wrestling.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get people to care.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: about wrestling as a kid, which they did with me with the Hulkster and the ultimate warrior, macho man, and then we move into the 90s with Shawn Michaels and Brett Hart, the Undertaker, DX, NWO, and then so on and so forth.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So much so that I wanted to become a part of
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: of the professional wrestling business, but right now, if you lose kids and you lose families, you lose the future generation of professional wrestling fans who are going to grow up and spend money on your product, right?
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're sacrificing the future of professional wrestling for profits
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: a middle ground amount of money for the rest of my life, then making a good chunk of change now and then in ten years having no source of income, you know what I mean?
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like I've always said, when did somebody who was worth $1 billion, when did they need to be worth $1 billion and $1?
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you get to a point where you've got enough money.
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just be happy with the money you have.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to be about making even more next quarter and the quarter after that.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, WWE is more successful now than it ever has been, but they're really doing damage to their reputation with their core fan base.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you lose them, you're not gonna be making as much money as you hope to be making.
• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's been a, like, look, we know what the U of C's about.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, it's combat sports.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: The U of C is combat sports, so...
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: the Saudis are going to be involved.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like they have the money to pay the athletes, they have the venues.
• 32:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, they came onto the scene during COVID.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're the ones who provided venues to have fights during COVID.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the UFC to have fights during COVID, actually Florida was one of the first places to offer a place that did one in Jacksonville.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was a hori-mostradal fight.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: But combat sports makes perfect sense.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: But think about the slow progression in the WWE.
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It started off with that you had these PLEs, these kind of one-off events, crown jewel.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then they started doing it every single year.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then the booking on those shows was suspicious to say the least, right?
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because there was a lot of one-off matches, which kind of brought out the speculation
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: that maybe the Saudis were actually booking these shows, right?
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get a royal rumble, and how you're getting a wrestle mania, and forget that you already have one on the schedule every single year.
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think this is a bridge too far, like, I agree, because what's the next thing?
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are they going to sell the whole product to the Saudis?
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because if they sell the whole product of the Saudis, then you're talking about something that's going to cease to exist, and this is what I'm talking about.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wrap it up, it's over, and I'm hoping...
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't know, I don't know.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can you put the toothpaste back in the tube out?
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it too far?
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it too late?
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is there something you can do to kind of curb the direction of this and bring it back to an industry
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: loved and enjoyed by everyone and can be affordable for everyone, you know, say what you will about Vince McMahon and he's had plenty of controversy over his his career in, you know, as as the head guy in WWE and he pretty much is The godfather of all professional wrestling.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think every one of us who who's involved in professional wrestling You don't have to like the guy, but you have to to give him thanks for allowing you to have a position in this business based on what he's done
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: by growing the WWF into this global corporation, that is WWE, but he's no longer in the picture, they booted him, they ousted him, and I don't know if he's going to find his way back to WWE before he passes away, but say what you will about Vince McMahon, but when Vince McMahon was here, Professor Wrestling still had
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: a soul.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did plenty of goofy shit, right?
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not everything Vizic Man did, especially during his later years, was a hit.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But everyone's going to have their misses when they're in charge of anything, really.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Any company, any organization.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had his misses, but he had a lot of hits as well.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Vizic Man is the reason why professional wrestling is as big as it is today.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Make it back to WWE in some capacity, maybe he's not the guy, but if he has a major voice in what wrestling is doing nowadays, I think we have a chance to kind of save the future of this business.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And right now, it just feels like we're headed into dark times for professional wrestling, which as somebody who makes his living off of pro wrestling doesn't feel too good on my end if I'm being 100% truthful.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think the problem also comes in and that you would think, okay, you know, obviously these are all problems, okay, but you still have competition in AEW.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: that could step in right away and could help fill the void and that will write the ship.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is that AW is just not very good at competing with WWE, like they've decided, like it's kind of obvious when you watch that show, that they've decided to carve out their own lane.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: and not actually compete.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do, but in your opinion, what do you think is the right thing to do?
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think AEW should get serious about actually competing with the WWE?
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they've made it this far, right?
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was just to have the money.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like they have the money.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have the money.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: To actually compete.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're the most successful wrestling company, not named WWE, since WCW.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're talking, you know, 25 years at this point.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they've already made it this far.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they lean into doing things the right way and that's such a subjective term anyways, because with wrestling as an art form, it's all subjective, right?
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think if they lean into storytelling and getting some good angles across quality writing, I think you need people, I think you need adults in the room in AEW.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you need people who
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he gets a bad rap again Vince McMahon, but he was respected and a lot of times he was feared.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And as a leader sometimes you need that, right?
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in today's world and in today's political climate, people don't like that idea that the leader has to be feared.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think in a lot of respects that actually does a lot of good things for your product,
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: when you have one guy calling the shots and people are afraid to cross him and to go against him and to tell him he's wrong, right?
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's always that back and forth that you need a little bit of challenging authority so you can find the best middle ground and I think Vince was really good at that.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you brought him an idea that maybe was against his initial thought, but really went to bat for it pretty hard.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was willing to consider your idea and oftentimes go, okay, let's go with that.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think AEW needs a little bit more direction to many chefs in the kitchen there and not a lot of young talent that's willing to listen to the people who came before them and pay homage to the past of professional wrestling.
• 38:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think they have every opportunity so far I'm not seeing it from them, but if they suddenly were to change course and really dial in on, we're going to make things affordable, we're going to make things.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: accessible to families right now.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think their product is very family friendly.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then also we're going to stay true to the soul and the history of professional wrestling.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they would have a really good shot of converting a lot of WWE diehards into AEW fans.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they, you know, maybe not anytime soon, but in the next five, 10 years, would have a really good opportunity at challenging WWE for supremacy in the wrestling business.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just other would need is to, you know, need to buy some talent, get some executives, some better, like you said, better writing, you know, booking, like, they pretty much got overhauled the entire product.
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they've kind of decided that, you know, we're just gonna cover our own lane and we're kind of a void.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're just gonna avoid competing with WWE at all costs.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: because they've been picked different days.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: They never go head to head on paper views, ever.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, or PLEs, but, you know, I've always like, because I always get sent every once in a while, somebody said, I look at this match and I watch an individual AEW match and I'm like, that's a really good match.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed that.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I never enjoy their shows and the reason I really enjoyed their shows is because all the matches are the same way.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, and it's exhausting like you watch you watch an AEW show.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's exhausting.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I I fully agree.
• 39:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big believer in Every match every match is is macho steamboat.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, and then I'm a big I'm a firm believer in making wrestling of a variety show
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've always said, professional wrestling is the circus.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You need your clowns, you need your trapeze artists, you need the bearded lady, you need the strong man, you need all of that.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if every match is the best match on the card, then none of the matches are the best match on the card, if you know what I'm saying.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, again, that's where having some adults in the room, telling people what they can and can't do.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then holding those
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's why having that in AEW would benefit that product greatly in my opinion, but you've got a boss there who's
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: more interested in being best friends with this talent than being their boss and until that changes I don't think you're going to see a product from AEW that can overcome what WWE is doing now.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if I you and a majority of the core fan base doesn't agree with the direction that WWE is going right now.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they did a big show, not too long ago, that some people were making fun of it.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, then, why are you making fun of it?
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: If it had really good matches on it.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was told, watch it and tell me what you see.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because you're just arguing against what you're being told that they were all great matches.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, I saw a couple of matches like they were really good.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I decided to sit down and watch the whole show.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I forget any of the show.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was their big show from last year.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when I tell you that the had, I think it was eight matches on the show.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Six of them were absolute bloodfests, including the women's title match.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And blood in wrestling can be super effective, but not when you see it every single match.
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and by the way, you know, not to be, you know, some, I don't care if anybody calls me sexist about this, but, you know, do you really want to see Tony storm buried under a puddle of blood, like is that something you, like you really want to see, like do you think that that's, you know, appealing like that's that's something you want to see.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's something that.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: that WB has ever done.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But now it's something that AEW does as a habit.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's just odd behavior.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why does every match have to be this way?
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's gratuitous, yeah.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So moving on to WWE, it's the return of Stephanie McMahon.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she's returning with her.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: her a bitch character.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I think she lost her fastball like it's not a good start to this and it's kind of cutting it close to WrestleMania.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think that they're trying to accomplish with this?
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think her promo was all that great.
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was confusing to say the least I didn't understand sometimes and without knowing I try not to consume spoilers when it comes to this stuff.
• 43:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it feels like they're really grasping at straws to try and hype up this WrestleMania due to the lack of ticket sales.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so they thought, okay, we'll bring back a beloved character or a character that people love to hate.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: in Stephanie and McMahon and we'll have her play the hits, right?
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's going to come out.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, if she's going to be the bitch and I'm hoping it's not the end of her involvement.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see where it goes and see if there's a payoff to this.
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if that was the entire deal with Stephanie, she's going to come out one time and talk shit to Cody and
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe the idea was to try and bring out an edgeier side of Cody Rhodes.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see where it goes, I'd like to see what the payoff is, but if there's no payoff, then it does feel like it was a bit odd to make that choice.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now let me pitch this to you and maybe this is how it's going to work, right?
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think if they're going to do corporate Randy, I think it's an absolute disaster, I think it's an awful mistake.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: an awful mistake.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I I couldn't hate that more if I tried.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if they're going to do co-corporate Cody.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you think that works better.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love it.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I always you're a great.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: You would agree that corporate Randy is an awful idea, right?
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Randy, I mean, he's he's kind of played that character before.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's in the mind frame at this stage of his career to like people want to roof him now people want to We're from now and now you you're going to make them you know a chicken shit here.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, no
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of works for Cody I've always I've I guess for my perspective I've had a hard time understanding the appeal of this white meat baby face Cody Rhodes you know since the last 25 years plus of professional wrestling has been focused on the edgy baby face right the the anti-hero stone cold Steve Austin the NWO they kind of kick this thing off
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then Cody comes out and he's dressed to the nines.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got his three piece suit on Um, there's a beautiful wife.
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's super successful.
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has a he has a vodka brand.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and his vernacular.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: The words he chooses to use in promo.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll heal.
• 45:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: See the blue collar wrestling fan.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's it would be so easy for him to slide into that pretentious.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm better than you.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm upper class your lower class.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it'd be so easy for that I think you could strike gold with it and he's done a great job
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: in other places in the professional wrestling world kind of playing a similar character.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you bring that to WWE.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: He joins up with Stephanie McMahon and Triple H and he becomes the the new corporate champion and I'm down with that.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really am.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just hope that Triple H is not going to be in front of the camera again.
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Although it's
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're going to leave it there next week.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or some of these stories are going.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking somewhere more juicy.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe we'll talk about it next week.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're also going to be a week closer to the draft.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we're going to be a week away from the draft the next time we do this show.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So so who knows?
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the week of the draft would do like our own little mock draft on the show.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But next week we're going to be a week away from the from the draft and it'll be will it be wrestling any a week or no will be two weeks away from WrestleMania week too now Next week the 15th we will be that will be WrestleMania week.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: 19th.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So next week.
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we'll talk to card of WrestleMania and the sights and sounds and I don't think we've talked about the Hall of Fame yet
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Till then.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Peace.