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Week 2 Test for Youth in Jaguars’ Secondary | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: To be the voice of Tarnvader, but they found somebody
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  Speaker 1: a little better. J. P. Chacker, Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: He is Jaguars Happy Hour, Thursday, September twelfth. It is
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  Speaker 2: week two, the Jaguars and the Browns coming up. We
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  Speaker 2: got busy two hours ahead here on ten toon Xcel
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  Speaker 2: at ninety two point five FM. Jaguars Happy Hour, Now
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  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Us Brown's Jaguars preview coming up, Lawrence versus Watson, all
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  Speaker 2: Clemson quarterback matchup, defensive comparisons of course, both teams with
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  Speaker 2: the strong defensive units. And the Baptist Health Injury report
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  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with Jaguars analyst Jeff Logoman, Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: How are you good afternoon? Did you say strong defenses? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a little early to label
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars in the category of the Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Browns, Okay, Nelly, a little too okay?
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  Speaker 1: Well premature there, Yeah, I mean, it's one game and
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  Speaker 1: last time I checked, the Jaguars ranking was twenty seventh
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  Speaker 1: in the league. Cars allowed. All right, well, I was
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  Speaker 1: giving them the benefit of the death thirty second in
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  Speaker 1: the past, trying to be positive. I like your positivity, JP,
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  Speaker 1: But let's talk it exist, let's be real. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: But that'll be a fun one that we'll get into
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  Speaker 2: that coming up. But but yeah, that's quite a matchup though,
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  Speaker 2: This Browns defense against the Jags defense.
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  Speaker 1: I think a better way to put it is the
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  Speaker 1: Jags defense against the Browns offense. How you just put
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  Speaker 1: it right there, because that that that's a matchup first
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  Speaker 1: of all, the Browns defense against yeah, the brown but
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  Speaker 1: the Browns defense, Now, hold on, you got to follow
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  Speaker 1: me from I'm about to straighten out, thank you. The
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  Speaker 1: Browns defense against anybody is a tough matchup for that
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  Speaker 1: anybody got except the Cowboys last week exactly. But it
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  Speaker 1: was no, it was a tough matchup for the Cowboys too. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys got a special team score, which was a
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  Speaker 1: big part of that ball game, and the offense of
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns was absolutely atrocious. That's why I think
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  Speaker 1: that this game is a kind of an interesting matchup
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  Speaker 1: Jags defense against the Cleveland Browns defense, just because the
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns offense has shown that it's so inept with
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson at the helm and two backup tackles, they
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  Speaker 1: were struggling to get out of their own way in
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  Speaker 1: that game against the Cowboys. And Mike Micah Parsons is
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  Speaker 1: an absolute monster. I mean him and Miles Garrett, TJ Watt,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Jones. I mean those guys right there now that
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's retired, I mean, those guys right there are
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  Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: there's anybody better than Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the Jags offense against Garrett
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  Speaker 2: and this Browns if it's I think for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: to get anything, they have to have some kind of
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  Speaker 2: success against this group. Garrett up front, Jeremiah su Corramoa
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  Speaker 2: linebacker level, he's a good one. Denzel Ward at corner,
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  Speaker 2: who's been to three Pro Bowls. I mean, They've got
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  Speaker 2: guys at every level that can play, and a coordinator
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  Speaker 2: who's not afraid to dial it up. No, he's a
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  Speaker 2: highly aggressive Jim Schwartz, by the way, yes, highly aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a relationship there that goes, you know, into
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  Speaker 2: the past with Doug Peterson. Obviously they won a Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl together, and uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I got the feeling that it's just not a
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  Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy relationship anymore. I mean, do you get
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  Speaker 1: that impression? Well, you know what, let's ask Doug when
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  Speaker 1: he gets in here. And the reason I say that
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  Speaker 1: is that, uh, you don't. You don't see hug and
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. And you would think that
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  Speaker 1: when Doug Peterson gets ahead job, that Jim Schwartz would
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  Speaker 1: be kind of maybe a candidate for being the defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: but that didn't happen. Uh anyway, just thinking out loud here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of kind of different. Jim Schwartz is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that kind of along the lines of Buddy Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, give me the
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  Speaker 1: credit on the defensive coordinator, you know, give me some attention.
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  Speaker 1: That's my side of the ball. That's good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: don't you get that impression. I mean, my hair is
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  Speaker 1: out of place. Don't have that problem. He's an interesting,
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  Speaker 1: an interesting coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what makes the coordinator better. Yeah, So here's
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  Speaker 2: the question. Nobody might have an answer to, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna ask it anyway, because that's the challenge this week
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  Speaker 2: is how do you slow him down? How do you
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  Speaker 2: block Miles Garrett? Uh approach?
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  Speaker 1: Multiple people you have, I mean, it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: multiple people. And the hard part is is that they
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  Speaker 1: do a really good job of moving ninety five or out.
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  Speaker 1: They moved him to the left side, they move him
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  Speaker 1: to the right side, They'll kick him down inside. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: he can play a lot of different places and there's
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  Speaker 1: not one person that can block him one on one
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  Speaker 1: in this league for long. I mean, you know, there
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  Speaker 1: might be a play that you slow him down, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not like there's a guy that can just block him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he is in fact. To go back to
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  Speaker 1: an event that I did with the Jaguar fan base
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  Speaker 1: and season ticket holders on Tuesday, me and Trent balky
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  Speaker 1: were on stage and I asked Trent Balke, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because he's been in the league since nineteen ninety eight,
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  Speaker 1: and I asked him, I said, what's the greatest player
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  Speaker 1: that you've ever scouted looked at from an evaluator scout standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't hesitate. He said, the greatest player that
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  Speaker 1: ever that I've looked that is Miles Garrett. And he
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  Speaker 1: goes and I'm not saying that because it's this week.
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  Speaker 1: And he said that even though at the time he
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  Speaker 1: said there was no chance of us being able to
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  Speaker 1: draft him, he said he was hands down, by far,
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  Speaker 1: the greatest talent that I've ever looked at. Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: the guy that the Jaguars are assigned to block this week,
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  Speaker 1: and it's coming a week after that. The Jaguars tackles
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  Speaker 1: did not play particularly well. In fact, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to be completely honest, I'm looking at numbers right here
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  Speaker 1: on my surfaces. Yes, let me just say this, oh boy.
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  Speaker 1: And after the game, I said, I mean, BESSELI were
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  Speaker 1: talking about the game and watched the film, and after
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  Speaker 1: watching the film, I said, you know, that was not
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  Speaker 1: a good performance by Anton Harrison. In fact, before the game,
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  Speaker 1: I was telling Joe Rose, the color analyst for the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, I was like, look, seventy seven is really good.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's our best offensive linemen. I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you say that, that's a fair assessment. Thinking that
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  Speaker 1: Anton Harrison was going to be the best offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars this year based on last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the way he kept you know, he's coming off, had
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  Speaker 1: his shoulder, had a good year with that, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the boy. And after the game I
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  Speaker 1: went to Joe and I apologize and I said, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry saying that about seventy seven. I said, I
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  Speaker 1: thought he was better than that. I said he didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a very good game, So I kind of looked
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't know what I was talking about to
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  Speaker 1: Joe a little bit. And then watching the film, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't play well. And you look at PFF grades and
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  Speaker 1: I know that's not the end all be all, but
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  Speaker 1: he was the third worst graded tackle in football.
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  Speaker 2: Is Garrett the type that you know with the Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: Can what's his name of the Chiefs?
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  Speaker 1: You just said it, Chris, Chris, Chris Jones. Anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: have those moments too, jas lately. It's a loile Wow.
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  Speaker 1: He can kind of pick his spots.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna line up against this guy
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  Speaker 2: this down, I'm gonna up against this guy on this
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  Speaker 2: and he has the ability to go pick out who
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  Speaker 2: he wants to rush against. I'm sure Garrett probably has
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  Speaker 2: that same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I don't think they give him the freedom
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  Speaker 1: to pick where he wants to go. But I think
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  Speaker 1: I think, yes, it's some of that's very strategic. And
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  Speaker 1: would they even put him in against a guard. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: he's more comfortable at the end because his skill set
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit more adept to play defensive end.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, he's big, he's strong, he's long, he's fast,
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  Speaker 1: he's athletic. He uh, you know, he takes on double
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  Speaker 1: teams all the time. I mean, it's just it's that's
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  Speaker 1: the world he lives in. That's the world that Chris
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  Speaker 1: Jones lives in. TJ. Watt. I think I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he would get as much or as many double
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  Speaker 1: teams as them now, even though TJ. Watt statistically has
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  Speaker 1: had like the highest numbers in sack total over the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of year. Defensive player, they're a great player.
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes Micah Parsons and Miles Garrett draw more
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  Speaker 1: attention than TJ. Watt because some people watch TJ. And Ah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't quite have that, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: those two guys do. But I mean he's still productive.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Michael Parsons, Miles Garrett, Chris Jones TJ. Watt.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys are the the unstoppable forces in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League, and the Jaguars got to find a way
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  Speaker 1: to stop him this week. And it's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: easy because, look, the reality is you're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: hard time sometimes identifying where he's gonna line up. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's easier if you don't know where a guy's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be at, because then you can game plan your protection
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  Speaker 1: where you need that extra help at. He's listed as
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  Speaker 1: a left end, but no, he plays right, he plays left,
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  Speaker 1: He'll play wherever. You know he's He's that good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes every week you hear broadcasters and analysts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, inflate guys to make oh great matchup. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not inflating anything here, folks. Miles Garrett is an absolute beast.
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  Speaker 1: five FM. Yes, how many? How many sacks? Like you
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  Speaker 1: needed something to say? How many sacks did Jalen Phillips
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  Speaker 1: have in this past game? Did this week? Yeah? A
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  Speaker 1: couple at least, didn't he? I mean he was, he
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  Speaker 1: was pretty good, right, Yeah, Jalen Phillips isn't even the
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  Speaker 1: same stratosphere. Oh sure as a as a Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: I mean so, I mean the level of intensity is
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  Speaker 1: going to go raised dramatically this week. Here here it
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  Speaker 1: is right here, Mimmy Dolphin sacks Jail and Phillips. But
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  Speaker 1: Kalay's got one, right, all they gave Jalen Phillips had
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  Speaker 1: one sack. Kalay's got one. And on first play the game,
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  Speaker 1: first play, I mean, I don't know what Anton was
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  Speaker 1: doing on that play wasn't very good. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, they were bringing pressure, kalais looping, and Anton
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  Speaker 1: was kind of going through the motions of play action
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  Speaker 1: and not selling it very good. I mean it was.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is is that if you think that
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna work this week against Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 3: Uh uh?
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  Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work. How about the rest of this
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  Speaker 1: Browns defense.
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  Speaker 2: J Okay the linebacker got a contract extension this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: They like him, Okay, Jeremiah j Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I like that, Jay Okay. Am I allowed to use
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  Speaker 1: that in a broadcast on Sunday. They use it all
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  Speaker 1: the time. It's not I didn't just make it up. Yeah, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I like that. That's a little lot easier to say that.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Okay, Right, I like that. He's a fantastic player.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good player. He's really a good player. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's a Pro Bowl level player. Denzel Ward, pro Bowl
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  Speaker 1: level player. Good news. Wan thorn Hill is going to
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  Speaker 1: be out. He went to injured reserve with a calf
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  Speaker 1: from the first week. Who was a starting safety, Dell
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  Speaker 1: Pitt is a good football players. The Darius Smith, who
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  Speaker 1: was the opposite edge player of Miles Garrett, good football player.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this this is this is a tough matchup,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And here here's the other thing I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: point out. There were there were some performances by dependable
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  Speaker 1: guys on the Jaguars offensive side of the ball that
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  Speaker 1: were not good.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: hear it. What do you expect out of Christian Kirk?
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  Speaker 2: I expect him to not drop as many balls as
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  Speaker 2: he did last What do you expect.
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  Speaker 1: Out of Evan Ingram? More looks? Uh better performances? Right on?
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  Speaker 1: Both of those guys. Yeah, they didn't play very well either, right,
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  Speaker 1: we know, yes, we saw the Kirk drops Evan Ingram.
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  Speaker 2: Ingram wasn't dropping the ball, but why was it not
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  Speaker 2: a good performance?
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  Speaker 1: Blocking was not great.
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  Speaker 2: But the guy had one hundred, almost set the record
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  Speaker 2: for catches by a tight end of the NFL last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's only getting how many looks? A handful of targets?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, it's tough, Okay, but you know part of
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  Speaker 1: getting looks is extending drives and helping another ways.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not I'm just stilling the fact.
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  Speaker 1: Like you if you looked at the blocking of Brenton
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  Speaker 1: Strange in this ball game, outstanding, outstanding US and he's
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  Speaker 1: obviously different player than Evan Ingram. But I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not asking Evan Ingram to become Brenton Strange.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what a mask because you know what Evan is.
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  Speaker 2: He's supposed to run down the field. That's his number
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  Speaker 2: one priority. But it just didn't look the same. He's
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  Speaker 2: got to be better.
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  Speaker 1: Evan Ingram has to be better because you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys you depend on. I mean, is
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  Speaker 1: the offense. You know, I was talking to Press Taylor
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  Speaker 1: before the game, and he's talking about how the offense
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  Speaker 1: runs through literally runs through Christian Kirk and Avn Ingram,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we saw. Well it did. It did
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  Speaker 1: run through those two on Sunday. If you were looking
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  Speaker 1: at Sunday's game, you would think that, Okay, then maybe
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  Speaker 1: the offense needs to run through Brian Thomas Junior and
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  Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby. So anyway, I mean, just it's got to
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  Speaker 1: be better. From the guys that you're counting on and
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  Speaker 1: the dependable veterans, they need to be dependable each each
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  Speaker 1: and every week. We've got plenty ahead. We're back in
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  Speaker 1: a moment.
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  Speaker 2: We'll hear from Josh heinz Allen on DeShawn Watson and
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  Speaker 2: the challenge of facing I guess he was in his
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  Speaker 2: heyday a dual threat type guy. We'll see if he
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  Speaker 2: still got it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear from.
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  Speaker 2: Jha coming up in just a moment and of course
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later the injury report before the Browns
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars matchup. We're on ten to nextl ninety two point
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  Speaker 2: five FM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour just from last week too.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you know, the Russia's having them wrapped up
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  Speaker 4: and him still having a capability to get away, So
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  Speaker 4: just being dialed in on you know, when you have him,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to take probably more thing, you know, one,
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  Speaker 4: two people to get him down, so you know, just
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  Speaker 4: just jump on them and hold on for dear life,
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  Speaker 4: because he still has all capability of getting at any tackle.
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  Speaker 2: It's jaj Josh heinz Allen and discussion about Deshaun Watson,
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  Speaker 2: the Browns quarterback, first round pick of course of the
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  Speaker 2: Texans back in twenty seventeen, traded to the Browns in
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  Speaker 2: twenty two and now after starting thirteen games for the Browns,
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  Speaker 2: he's eight and five as a starter there, trying to
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  Speaker 2: get it on track. A lot of stuff going on
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  Speaker 2: off the field around for Sea Watson, and this week
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  Speaker 2: father passed away apparently last.
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  Speaker 1: Week too, so I mean there's been a lot happening
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  Speaker 1: with him.
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  Speaker 2: On the Felt and welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with Jeff Flogman. Glad you're with us on
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  Speaker 1: On You know, if it's going to be called Trevor Bank,
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  Speaker 2: Yes, have a great day and against another Clemson quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: Intoshaun Watson. And you know the performance last week, that's
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  Speaker 2: what it is. You got two backup tackles, you got
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  Speaker 2: very good, the tight end got hurt and first game,
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  Speaker 2: yeah it was not good. The question is is this
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  Speaker 2: is the old Deshaun still in there somewhere because talking
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  Speaker 2: to Fred Taylor this week and you'll hear that on
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  Speaker 2: count had a kickoff on Sunday and on the Jags
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  Speaker 2: Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's.
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  Speaker 2: He's talked with Deshaun before and he does everything the
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  Speaker 2: right way and preparing for a season, but it just
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  Speaker 2: hasn't shown up.
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  Speaker 1: I just field in Cleveland. I don't know how anybody
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  Speaker 1: can give all of their attention and be good at
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  Speaker 1: football with everything that he has had going on over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, from the massage therapy accusations
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  Speaker 1: to this latest one of sexual assault, to sitting out
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  Speaker 1: basically almost two entire seasons, one year essentially on the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: commissioner's list. A second year he had I think it
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: was an eleven game suspension. There's been conversations about that
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: this could be considered the worst trade in NFL history,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and if you look at it from a value standpoint,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: this is by far the worst trade and National Football
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: League history. The Texans fleeced the Cleveland brown fleeced them.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Did you see what they what they gave up? It's
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the first round and they've hit on all the picks
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: they got too.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: But most importantly, they gave up two hundred and forty
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, guaranteed, And I got a feeling that
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns organization is quietly hoping that this latest
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: allegation leads to a league suspension and they can get
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: out from underneath of the contract to Deshaun Watson. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be a bit surprised. I mean, look what they
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: gave up. They gave up. The Texans got Cleveland's twenty
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: twenty two first and fourth round picks. They got the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: first and the third in the in the twenty twenty
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: three draft, and then in this past Springs draft they
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: got the first in the fourth. You're talking three first
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: round picks, two fours in a three move for the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: guy that's played thirteen games.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Packaged some of those to move up and get Will
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Anderson at the third pick and all that stuff.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something, it's it's I mean, the Herschel Walker
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: trade was not good.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: That's probably the number one all time like one sided
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: deal because multiple Super Bowls of the Dallas Cowboys and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: multiple foundational building blocks of the Jimmy Johnson led Cowboys.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I think that one still goes. But
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I mean from just a monetary performance standpoint, this is
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the worst. I mean, by far, this is the worst.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Can he get back to the form that he had
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: with the Texans, I don't know. I think he made
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: what a couple of Pro Bowls or one Pro Bowl
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: two or three. I think it was back in the day,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and he was a thread on the ground as well
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: as with his arm.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: He was six and zero against this team as a starter.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Last time he played the Jags was twenty twenty. Though
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: it's been a while. Yeah, I don't know, different world,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Know, and everything that's going on with the off the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: field stuff is getting very loud for him, very loud.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: And then when you have a performance like they had
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: offensively last week with the Cleveland Browns, it gets even
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: louder with the off the field stuff. If you're all right,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: let's say you're the Jaguars defense, then and you see
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson out there with some backup tackles, even though
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the backup right tackles started most every game last year
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and the tight ends out, how do you attack this
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Brown's offense to? What do you begin on this offense?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I might I might have a little bit of smack
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: talk about the off the field stuff. Okay, I'm sure
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you would, that's you, yes, I mean you know, I mean,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: why not try to get a guy off his game?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, why would you not try that? Don't I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, there's to do what you do.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And I was never one to talk a whole lot
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: on the football field, but stop it. And I was
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I was not that I was not. I was born
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: at night. It wasn't last night. I was not. But
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: there were some guys that were incredibly good at it, yes,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and I left it to them. And the ones that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: were incredibly good at it, like John Randall. Can you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: imagine John Randall getting ready to play Deshaun Watson this week?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, John Randall was one of the best. Here's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the question, Ryan Nielsen, drawing it up on the board.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Where do you start to attack? Got it? You gotta
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: attack him and pressure him early because in the Dallas
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Cowboys game, he started that game and he kept his
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: eyes down the field because look, he's got two very
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: good wide receivers, Mary Cooper, Pro Bowl wide receiver, Jerry Judy,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: really good wide receiver they got in the trade with
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. I believe, I mean, really good football players.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: But the offensive line was not very good. And so
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the game started out with Michael Parsons just being an
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: absolute beast, and you could tell that Deshaun Watson then
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: started to take peaks at the rush for the remainder
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of that ballgame. If you can get him to start
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: doing that early in the game and start thinking, oh no,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: here we go again. This is gonna be like last week.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: If Josh hinz Allen and Trayvon and everybody else kind
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: of gets after him early in this ball game, you'll
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: get his eyes to drop and not stay on the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: field to find an open receiver. And so I think
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it's paramount that you get off to a fast start defensively,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and you've got to protect the football as an offense
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in this game. If you give them extra chances as
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: an offense, it's gonna be it's gonna be even tougher
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to stop them as a whole, just because it gives
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: them extra opportunities at gaining confidence as an offense. Chubb's
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: not playing running back pedestrian pedestrian running game. They're not. Yes, yes,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and especially I mean you're you're with two backup tackles.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Chubb is, you know, still trying to get back off
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of a horrific knee injury. The starting running back Drome
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Ford is guy. He's a guy. Put it this way,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It's not like the forty nine er situation that we
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: saw on Monday Night football to where McCaffrey's backup just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: walked in and ripped off what how many yards do
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you have? One hundred and forty seven? Big something crazy. Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that hasn't happened in Cleveland. I can tell you that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'll say this.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: The backup air quotes right tackle is six eight three
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: seventy four Dwan Jones from Ohio State.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: One of the largest humans you'll see on a football field.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Micah Parsons had him spinning around so many different directions
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that he didn't know which way was the direction that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: his offense was going and which way the quarterback was. Man.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean's a mountain of a man. What's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: his what's his height? Weight on on the six six
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: eight three seventy four? Six eight three seventy four, that's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: just listed. I mean, who knows how accurate that is.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: He might be four, but he's a biscuit shy of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: four hundred. He might be at four. He's a giant
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: human being, giant, and Michael Parsons literally had him going
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: where did he go? It was like and they were sliding.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: They were giving him extra help. And but Michael Parsons
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: is just a best I mean, he's such a rare
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: human being. Dallas Cowboys better pay him. I can tell
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you that they did. They just got done paying Dak Prescott,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: who is not the best quarterback in the league, but
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: he got top of the quarterback money Ceedee lamb. The
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: guy that needs to be paid is Michael Parsons Jerry Jones.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: You better pay number eleven. I'm telling you he's the guy.
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• 25:32
  Speaker 5: One to be self motivated to he and I spoke
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: even during the game Sunday and then afterwards, you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: and I just just reassured him that that we're can
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: We're going to continue to give him the football, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I think that's the the next best thing is to
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: get him right back on that horse, as they say,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: and keep keep feeding.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: In the ball.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: And uh, I don't want them to be tentative, you know, cautious.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I still want them to attack, be aggressive and and
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: just learn from hey.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Coach Doug Peterson earlier this week on Travis etn and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: his bounce back ability from the key fumble last week
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: down in South Florida. And it's Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome back, JP, Shadwick,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman. We're at the Hundai Studios, the Miller Electric
• 26:16
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• 26:19
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• 26:24
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• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Maven I'm all the places today. I think I'm going
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to be on every single show today. So if Jaguars
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: fans are sick of me, I'm going to be here.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Impossible, I'm gonna be here on it is impossible, there's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: never too much. Kai Stevens on radio. We I love it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: I'm sure that's what my mom would take you. But
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: thank you.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: It's right.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: So that's one part of the offense. Last week, the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: running game. You know, we saw some good things from ETN.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: We didn't we saw the fumble was not one of
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: those good things. Tank Bigsby had some moments lives last
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: week where okay, this is a step in the right direction,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: but pass protection and a couple of things didn't work.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Well for him. Well, I mean, first of all, give
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Tank credit. I mean it's a drastic improvement from last year.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, powerful, full head of steam. There was one
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: play ticket I'm not sure on but Anton Harrison looked
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like he was expecting a little help from Tank Bigsby
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and he didn't get it and led to a sack pressure.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: But I mean a good start for Tank Bigsby. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: mean overall, but it's got to be better, right, I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it's got to be better. But I liked it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you could speak to it specifically, Jeff with
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the plays. But I know last season a lot of
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: the issues were Tank not being able to kind of
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: pick up the blitz and that's what kept him off
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the field a lot of the time, and I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: that kind of got to fumbles. Some of that's Trevor
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: throwing it real hot at his head though true at
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: least in the Indianapolis game, So I'll give him that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: But I know a lot of the coaching staff was
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: kind of concerned at least last year with whether they
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: could trust him to do the other things that he
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: needed to do, because if you know he's going to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: run the ball every time he's on the field, that
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: takes away some of what he will be able to do.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So obviously we saw some stuff from him last week.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll see that continue to improve. And Travis, I
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: think was impressive in the locker room the other day JP.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Just his attitude to I mean, he's always he's just
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: very straightforward, honest person. Spoke after the game, which not
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: everybody does when they do something like that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: He owned it, He absolutely did.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: He not afraid of tough question.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: He owned it, and he admitted it probably sat with
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: him an extra day, whereas other times you can kind
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: of flush the game out of your mind, but it
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: sat with them an extra day.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: But now he's moving on from it. He's not going
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: to be defined by it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Some people take this and kind of just never, you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: let it become an issue.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Don't want to speak too soon. But I feel like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: at least mentally, he's in a good spot.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I don't worry about him. I don't. I think he's
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a mature, tough competitor. I think he's going to bounce
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: back fine. I liked what the coaching staff did in
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that ball game, and that after the fumble, which was significant,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: it seemed to be the turning point of the game.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: If you're just you know, don't know anything, and you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: come down from Mars and you look at the game book,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the play sheet, you can see that the game turned
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: on that play. It was a fourteen point swing. But
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: they gave the ball right back to him on the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: next drive on all fence, and I thought that that
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: was a real good sign. And some guys you don't
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: do that with, But with Etn you're going to do
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that with because he's a trusted player, and he's and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he's had a lot of big moments for you, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: for one of those guys, you got to give the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: ball back to him to let him know it's okay.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: We trust you. In last week's game, Trevor Lawrence was
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: twelve of twenty one, passing one hundred and sixty two yards,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass which was a fantastic throw. He's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: going to be playing in a stadium with his name.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: On it this week. So, Trevor Bank, what do you
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: need from Trevor this week?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Guy? More of the same that we saw in the
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: first half. I think obviously, you know, people have their
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: issues with the play calling whatnot. In the second half
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: after that kind of they didn't have a ton of plays.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: That's what it comes down to. Yes, we would have
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: liked to see him throw it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: More, didn't have a ton of time to throw, didn't
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: have a ton of time to throw, and didn't you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: three and out it's not going to give you that
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: many chances at it either. So staying on the field
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: is important, and I mean as annoying as it is
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: execution right, Like if you convert on third down, you'll
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: get more you'll have more options. And then Trevor's, you know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: fourth year for Trevor, we got to see it from him.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I got so many questions this week about play calling.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: It's like so old, you're not the only one.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: Jeff loves that question.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I'm okay, I thought the play
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: calling was fine in this ball game.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: If they win, people would have loved it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if it's just kind of execute, Yeah, if
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: they convert a third down and the right guard doesn't
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: get blown up, you get a first down.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Let's go there for a minute. Okay, let let's talk
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: about because the reason why they didn't win this ball
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: game and didn't bounce back from the critical turnover was
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: they they didn't convert on third downs. I mean, plain
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and simple. Christian Kirk had two drops, both of them
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: on third down, right, third and one. Okay, you're you're
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: supposed to up to the you know, to the linebacker,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and your right guard gets blown up on the fourth
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: down play, which I'm not a fan of going for
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: on the fourth down. Let me just say that, but
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the play, but okay, now we're gonna go for it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. If it's fourth and one, you better
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: know what you're doing, okay. And they didn't know what
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: they were doing on that particular play. A number of.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Players, some people didn't.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yep, it wasn't good. Okay, more than one so if
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you if you just catch those balls, you convert that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that would have been the game
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: saving moment, but.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: It gives you more drive, throw it more, you get
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: better first down results, and it's play action and here
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: we go.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, the play calling was fine. You just
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: got to execute on the opportunities that were given to you.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's and you know, I think
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: people are so ultra focused on the whole play calling
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: thing for a couple of reasons. One, you know, this
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: team struggled down to stretch last year, right, losing five
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of six. I would say that's a struggle. Yeah. Fact,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: question was asked of Doug Peterson about who's going to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: handle play calling this year. He avoided the question early
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: in training camp, and then he really didn't answer the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: question to the media, and so then it becomes a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: continuing story. The owner talked about him wanting to have
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson call play So, I mean, all this talk
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: about play calling makes all this extra attention go on
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it when it doesn't need to be there. It doesn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: because here's the reality. Play calling is a collective effort.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It's Press Taylor, it's Doug Peterson, it's Phil Rauscher, it's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Mike McCoy, it's everybody getting together during the course of
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the weekend. The last time I checked, everybody has a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: headset on. Okay, can you see I'm geting a little
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: angry here now? Yeah, okay, the last time I checked,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: everybody has a headset on. Doug Peterson has one on.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Press Taylor has one on, Phil Rauscher has one on.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Mike McCoy has one on. The party line is if
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: anybody wants to put in any kind of an input,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: all you gotta do is touch a little button on
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: your hip and go, hey, I think we ought to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: do this right here. And guess what. Doug Peterson has
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the ultimate authority? Can we get off the play call
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: anything for just a minute? Thank you? I needed that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: But Jeff, who do you think is actually calling the place?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Come on, tell us, he answers it answered my
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: little rant. God mighty unbelievable.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: But how about the throw from Trevor though in the
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: touchdown pass, I mean from the left hash other world,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Thomas was at the left hash when he let it go,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and he ended up back left corner of the end
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: zone in the back line.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was. Uh, that's one of the best throws.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I think the best throw I've seen Trevor make. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: mean it was. It was fantastic. And then and I
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: was showing Kai this on the film on Tuesday. And
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the other impressive thing is that you've got a rookie
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, first round pick and Brian Thomas who is
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: lined up on the right side. And I break this
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: down on some of the upcoming Jaguar TV shows so
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: people can check it out, and also on Jaguars YouTube
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: TV channel. But if you watch that play on the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: left side, as Gabe Davis and he runs down the field,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: gets to the end zone and just stops and turns around,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and he's trying to draw all the attention and pull
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: people up. And then Brian Thoms, who's lined up on
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the right side of the Jaguars formation, is working his
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: way across the field, but he's got to find a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: way to navigate and to get through all of the traffic.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Somehow end up on the back of the end zone.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So while he's looking to navigate the traffic, his eyes
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: are on the defenders. You know, It's like, Okay, it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like somebody's driving a car through construction zone. You got
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to pay attention where all the cones are. And then
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: finally when he does get his head back around, the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: ball is already passed halfway to him and he never
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: misses a beat with his body control, getting his feet
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: in and making the catch. He made it look so
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: easy that that is also not just an elite throw.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: That's an elite play by a rookie, and it's your
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: first round picking people. That gets me excited that play
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: right there, I'm talking big time excitement, almost excited as
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: play calling debate. No, not quite.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Different directions, right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I think the body awareness is cool, Jeff, what you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: talking about, because for him to be able to do
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: all that keep his feet inbounds, I think a lot
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: of last year not calling anybody out, but just the
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: ball it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: Didn't quite work out the same way.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: They're you know, getting the feed in whether it's a
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Jones or whoever it was, or the throw wasn't wasn't
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: allowing them to do that either, Uh, the throw being
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: on point, and you know, credit to Trevor for practicing that,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: putting the throw where it needs to be in Brian
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: for as you mentioned, being able to find the ball
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the throw and then still get
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: his feet in. Wasn't even looking down when he did it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: So you're just like, have that awareness where you are.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that don't have that and
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: don't ever pick that up. So the natural ability he
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: has to do that and just and for me it's
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: always been he's so fast in a way that is
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: deceiving because he's with you. And then it's like it's yes,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Jalen knows, well, I'm gonna ask him tonight and see
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: if he'll tell us what he told Jalen, But I
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: don't think you will.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: That was the best. That was really good. That was great,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: oh by Jalen Ramsey. And then you draw the p
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I call and then Jalen wants to get up and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: talk smack, And the last time I checked, you're not
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: really in a position to talk smack When you just
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: had to get a PI penalty to save a touchdows
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to yard PI, you might want to, you know, not
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: chirp at that moment, but he decided to chirp, and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Brian just I mean, I'm talking chirp right back. I
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was going out. That's that's a guy, that's got some dog.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: He may be quiet to everybody, okay, and not say
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a whole lot, but that right there, that's a dog.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm not talking a bad dog. I mean, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: remember the Lord's Taylor, the famous saying on NFL films,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: we got to go out there by like a bunch
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: of crazed dogs. That's the dog I'm talking about. That's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I was loving that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: It's like the photo of the X ray with the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: dog in the chest cavity in there. You mentioned tonight,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: so that she's on the show tonight on Jaguars.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: All Actually, yes, we have two guests tonight on All Access.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Christian Kirk couldn't be with us last week, so he's
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: gonna come this week and he will be ringing Ryan
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Thomas Junior along with him.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Wow, two for the price of one. Awesome. I love
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that it's outstanding. That is at seven o'clock. And not
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to mention some of the best wings on the planet.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Jeff's favorite.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: How many did you eat last week? Twenty five? We did?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I thought, no, it does not just me. I think
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the most I've done at one sitting has been twelve.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's when you get the itightist got to go
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: take a nap. But get real, I.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Could have done the fifteen that night, but I was
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: just like you, I'll be really uncomfortable. I better not. Yeah,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: they're good though, They're good, good, better good, great Streams,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Sports Brewery, Alama, White wings Man, that's all them all
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: all over that seven o'clock get there early. Absolutely should
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: be a good crowd tonight. Yeah, should be a great.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Rain and outside nothing else to do? Come on down.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Can we stop with the rain with the question about
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: play calling all? Can I go off on a tangent
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: about the rain?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Please do get wait for that Saturday morning at on
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the Outdoor show the rain?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: How many were days in a row? Is it rain now?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Like ten?
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: It feels like a million? Maybe this sun will come
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: out on Sunday.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: What's what is it gonna come out on? Something?
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: Idea?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Please tell me that that's the truth. Please tell me.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Kay will be back
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: for the bulk of the Doug Peterson Show.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Appreciate sh well. JP's a busy man. He has to
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: dip out a little bit.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: We're high to man, he's in high to man. We're
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: looking forward to that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 38:32
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• 39:01
  Speaker 2: back with the Baptist Health Injury report on Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour from.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: The Hyundai Studios, the Miller Electric Center, JP Shaddick with
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman or thanks to Kay Stevens. Coming up in
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: about twelve minutes the Doug Peterson Show. We'll get some
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: answers from that head coach in studio. He'll join us
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: with some final thoughts, very final thoughts about the Dolphins game,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: but how they carry over and get better moving ahead
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: this week and bounce back against the Brown We'll ask
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: him all that. Coming up back five o'clock on the
• 39:51
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• 39:52
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• 39:55
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• 39:59
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• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, come on man, oh yeah, yeah, it's it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Uh. I hope the weather's okay, but there's nothing better
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: than having the energy at a fever pitch. And Trevor Bank,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I guess right, Trevor Bank, by the by the way,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: whose responsibility is it to change the road signs? Just
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: out of curiosity?
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: You know question?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Kind'm wondering because you know, every time
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I'm coming to the stadium, I'm seeing t I A
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a Bank this way? Do we need to contact the
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Maras office whatever you want, I'm not gonna have dot.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, who do we call about that? That's a
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: great question, I mean, and would we have to change
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that to Trevor Bank. They might just ask you. We'll
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: just do it, Okay. I'm just I'm just curious here,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you know. Don't ask the questions. You don't want to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: hear the answers. Give me the defense of the injury report.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier, that injury. I was totally sick. Sorry,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: but I want to hear it because you said it's important.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It is very important. It's always important, certainly this week.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: The injury report is presented by Baptist Health changing Healthcare
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: for Good. So the Jaguars safety Daniel Thomas Special Teams
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: ACE did not play last week, limited both days this
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: week so far with the achilles injury. Cam Robinson, left tackle,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: has been limited both days this week with a knee injury.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Darnell Savage added to the report today with a quadriceps injury.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Did not practice today. He was on the field yesterday,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: did not practice Thursday.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That's not a good sign. Linebacker Caleb Johnson, also a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: special teams Ace, was on the field yesterday, limited today
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: with a back issue, and defensive tackle Tyler Lacey with
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: a toe injury. He did practice Wednesday, limited today. So
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the additions of Savage, Caleb Johnson, and Tyler Lacy to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: the report this week today, Darnell Savage not practicing on
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: top of Tyson Campbell, of course placed on injured reserve
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: earlier today at corner. That means two, essentially two starters
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: could be down this week.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Definitely, it gonna be watching the Darnell Savage when it
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: comes to tomorrow for the game designation because he felt
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: like he came out of the game, Okay, right, I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: mean something had to have happened. He wasn't on the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: injury report on Wednesday, so something had to have happened,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you know. I guess, Yeah, that's concerning. And then on
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: top of that, Tyson Campbell going to injured reserve. Oh,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I mean last year he had Here's the thing I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: worry about with that with Tyson, with Tyson focusing on
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Tyson now, last year he injured his left hamstring. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: think it was just right this year, so two different hamstrings. Okay,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but you go back to last year and I think
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: he missed six games last year, missed a lot of time.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Was he ever the same after the hamstring? I didn't
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: feel like it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Remember he was even inactive for one game to kind
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of let him go back and heal a little bit more.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So my concern is is now you have another hamstring.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: But then if you looked at when he returned last year,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: well when he returns this year, is he going to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: be back in okay or is it going to be
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: kind of like last year where he never got back
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to the level of play that we kind of expected
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: out of Tyson and what he probably expected out of himself.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, so that's that's concerning. But for this week
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: in particular, if something's going on with Savage, oh, I
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: mean that's something that's uh yeah, you're talking about two guys.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: If Savage doesn't go, then most likely Jarion Jones is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: your Nickel.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like those injuries that just
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: pop up during the week. That's not good.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So I mean Sarah's cross that is he's okay, Well
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: he's not. Jarny Jones is probably the guy at nickel, right.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably so at Nickel because he played some snaps
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: there in the game and he's done that before, He's
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: been trained in all of that. You know. The first
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: question is is that who's going to take the place
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: of Tyson Campbell Brown. We're going to ask Doug about
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that here, and I would guess we saw in the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: game that it was Monteric Brown or Buster Brown the nickname,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I guess. But but here's the question. In a game
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins, you had Monteric Brown move in
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and play corner. But it also was a game that
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you were playing a lot of dime, et cetera. So
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do this week where I don't
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna get to a lot of dime, You're
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: just gonna be in a lot of nickel. Here's another thing.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Terrell Edmonds, who was activated last week because Daniel Thomas
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: was not available to play, got signed off of the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: practice squad by the Pittsburgh Steelers to their active roster.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: He is now no longer available to bring up as
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: a practice squad elevation for Daniel Thomas. So is Daniel
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Thomas ready to go? He's still on the injury report,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: still on there. He's limited. So the Jaguars did sign
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Trey Flowers to the active roster to make up for
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the loss of Tyson Campbell on the active roster. So
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Trey Flowers, veteran corner, long, tall guy that I like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: he's got the ability to put hands on guys. But
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this is this is definitely something that
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: is worth watching as we move towards game day.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: All right, you want to get some of my Browns injuries.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: There's a hands There's actually a couple of notables here
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: that were added today. Yeah, give them to me, the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: ones added today. Miles Garrett did not practice today with
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: a foot injury. Was on the field yesterday.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That that's concerning too, right, one that pops up that
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: he was was the on the injury report yesterday? No,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: he was. He practiced full yes year. That's was not
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: on the report. Yes, kind of like Savage right, did
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: or did not practice today? He did not practice. That's uh.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Defenseman Zadaria Smith back was on the field yesterday, did
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: not today.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: He is, by the way, for people that don't know,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: he is the other edge player in Cleveland's defense. So
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: we'll see what they do tomorrow. He had a sack
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: last week.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Let's see Jedrick Wills Junior, the tackle, one of the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: starting left tackle with the knee injury, did not play
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: last week, did not practice yesterday, limited today. Jack Conklin
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: limited both days this week. He's the right tackle who
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: is at least on the depth chart at the starter, and.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Neither one of those guys played in the opening week.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Conklin had an ACL early in the season last year,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and then Will's had an MCL about the midpoint of
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: last season, and both of them are trying to get back,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: So do you have it? Those are the most notable.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of other minor ones, but both a
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: lot of those guys have been full both days.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of weird. Is Wills had I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: think it was week nine the injury that he sustained
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: which he ended up having an orthroscopic procedure, and I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: believe it was maybe an MCL, but for him not
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to be ready by now is kind of surprising. Now
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: with Conklin, Conklin was late in the year, correct or
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: was he early in the year? You know, he was
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: early in the year. Yeah, And sometimes a guy that's
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: coming back from an ACL typically takes about a year,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: so it even is a little bit surprising that Conklin
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: is not back as well, because most guys are back
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: from an ACL usually in about nine months, ten months
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: somewhere in there, and he's like at a year right now.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Kind of odd. Oh yeah, then it's another week.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: By the way, Mary kacabot of at Cleveland dot Com
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: said that Scenaria Smith and Miles Garrett that said, the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: injuries are not believed to be serious. They're mostly experiencing
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: soreness in those areas.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: As of now.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: They're both expected to face the Jags Sunday, but the
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: fact that they're on there tells you something is going on.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. If Miles Garrett is not able to play,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that would not hurt my feelings one bit, you think, Yeah,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: not a bit. Certainly not Jarrison and Cam Robinson either. Well,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: you know the old saying about you know, hey, you
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: know you always want to face the team at their best,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you want to beat the trees. Well, you know what
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: if if Miles Garrett's not beat the team, I don't care.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Their problem not ours, all right, Doug Peterson show a
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: couple of minutes away and we'll hear from the head
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: coach here in studio. And I'm curious just the mood
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: of moving forward after such a deflating loss last week,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: after they had a chance to be up three scores
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: and then they weren't and they lost on a field
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: goal at the end. You know, how do they bounce back?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: The bounce back ability of this team was in question
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: at the end of last year.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Do they have it this year? Yeah? I think I'm
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: curious about that. I'm curious about how you go on
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: block ninety five. That's a good question too. Yeah, it's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: a good strategy. Uh, you know, and you go back
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: last year, remember the game in Cleveland. Trevor had a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: tough day, had three interceptions. Evan Ingram had a great day,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Marvel's day, so did David and Joku. On the other side. Unfortunately,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: we blew how many coverages in that game? Yeah, a
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of your touchdowns. Yeah, but I'll just never forget
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: that Ezra Cleveland was moved to left tackle. That's right.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: That was that game, wasn't it. And I just I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: didn't like that move because of the injury to Cam
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and then also to Walker Little and I was just going, oh,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know about this and what it is, and
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: then Ezra ended up getting his knee hurt.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour our thanks to
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Kyle Stevens. Shall be back with you shortly on the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show for Jeff Logerman on her entire crew.
• 50:03
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• 50:04
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