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- 0:00Speaker 1: Can you win with the three of them? Well, if
- 0:01Speaker 1: they're good enough, I guess the answer is yes. But
- 0:03Speaker 1: the bigger question with the Red Sox is still going
- 0:06Speaker 1: to be their starting pitching.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Let's hit the inside SCOO with that f T senior
- 0:17Speaker 2: insider Ken Rosenthal. And for those of you that think
- 0:19Speaker 2: we talk about the Red Sox too much in a
- 0:22Speaker 2: season where they're pretty mediocre.
- 0:23Speaker 3: You're right.
- 0:24Speaker 2: But Ken, Roman Anthony gets called up. He's the top
- 0:27Speaker 2: prospect in the sport. You wrote about this this weekend,
- 0:30Speaker 2: and wow, how quickly your column came to life.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Right, Well, I would think Roman Anthony's four hundred and
- 0:37Speaker 1: ninety seven foot Grant Slam on Saturday Night had a
- 0:39Speaker 1: lot more to do with the Red Sox decision. His
- 0:42Speaker 1: performance over the course of this season had a lot
- 0:45Speaker 1: more to do with the Red Sox decision than anything
- 0:47Speaker 1: I wrote. But at the time I wrote it, that
- 0:50Speaker 1: was the night he hit the Grand Slam, And that
- 0:53Speaker 1: was also the night Christian Campbell made a play at
- 0:55Speaker 1: second base that I knew bothered their staff talking to
- 0:59Speaker 1: some of them after the game. So I put two
- 1:02Speaker 1: and two together, and I know they're concerned about Campbell's
- 1:05Speaker 1: defense and have been really all season. That's an issue.
- 1:08Speaker 1: And you guys were just talking in the previous segment
- 1:10Speaker 1: about how defensively they have not played crisply at all.
- 1:15Speaker 1: So ultimately they need better from Campbell at second. But
- 1:19Speaker 1: what I suggested at the time was bring up Anthony,
- 1:22Speaker 1: move Rafaela to the infield, sa Don Rafaela, who can
- 1:25Speaker 1: play the infield, not maybe as well as the outfield,
- 1:29Speaker 1: where he is absolutely elite, but he's a quality player
- 1:32Speaker 1: wherever you put him. From a defensive standpoint, what happened
- 1:36Speaker 1: was William or Brew suffered an oblique injury and they
- 1:39Speaker 1: had the opening created that way, created kind of in
- 1:41Speaker 1: a natural way. So here's Roman Anthony and we'll see
- 1:44Speaker 1: how this all goes. It's not easy when you're a
- 1:47Speaker 1: young player playing in a town like Boston where there
- 1:51Speaker 1: is an intense microscope and adapting to the major leagues,
- 1:55Speaker 1: where the difference between the Triple A and the Majors
- 1:57Speaker 1: has never been greater. But this is a talented and
- 2:00Speaker 1: he saw even last night he showed discipline at the plate,
- 2:04Speaker 1: major league debut, and he's still taking pitches, still doing
- 2:07Speaker 1: his thing. There's a lot of promise there. Obviously, that's
- 2:10Speaker 1: why he's the number one prospect in the game. And
- 2:13Speaker 1: we'll see if this helps turn the Red Sox around.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Obviously last night it did not.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Ken. Was this just.
- 2:25Speaker 4: A long pause?
- 2:26Speaker 3: Okay? Ken, Sorry it was a dramatic pause.
- 2:28Speaker 5: Okay, but Ken, I want to I mean, Anthony's there,
- 2:32Speaker 5: Campbell's there, Meyer's there. Can the Red Sox still win
- 2:35Speaker 5: this division or get back into the playoff race with
- 2:38Speaker 5: basically three rookies on the field. We've seen Campbell struggle,
- 2:42Speaker 5: Meyer has been okay, Anthony's one game in. But can
- 2:45Speaker 5: they win or division and get make a deep playoff
- 2:47Speaker 5: run like they want to with basically three rookies in
- 2:50Speaker 5: the starting lineup.
- 2:51Speaker 1: It's a great question, AJ, and we're gonna see, as
- 2:54Speaker 1: we've seen so far, Alex Cora pinch hit for these
- 2:57Speaker 1: guys in certain situations. Again, left these with Meyer and
- 3:01Speaker 1: Anthony in certain cases, with Rob refsnin or on the bench,
- 3:05Speaker 1: Roman Gonzalez on the bench. Can you win with the
- 3:08Speaker 1: three of them? Well, if they're good enough, I guess
- 3:10Speaker 1: the answer is yes. But the bigger question with the
- 3:12Speaker 1: Red Sox is still going to be their starting pitching
- 3:15Speaker 1: and the challenge that they face the deadline is going
- 3:19Speaker 1: to be whether they can turn some of their depth
- 3:21Speaker 1: into starting pitching help. And I'm not sure they can.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I'm not sure they'll line up with anybody with any
- 3:27Speaker 1: of the players they have. And when you're talking about
- 3:30Speaker 1: the three kids you just mentioned, and William Abreu, who
- 3:33Speaker 1: has been a brilliant player for them, and as well
- 3:36Speaker 1: as Jared Duran All Star Game MVP last year, top
- 3:39Speaker 1: ten finisher in the overall MVP booting, I don't know
- 3:43Speaker 1: how you get fair value for those guys easily. It's
- 3:46Speaker 1: difficult to do so. Craig Breslow's second full year as
- 3:51Speaker 1: president of Baseball Operations, he has a significant challenge ahead
- 3:54Speaker 1: of him, and we'll see if he's able to somehow
- 3:59Speaker 1: take advantage of his depth to address the needs of
- 4:02Speaker 1: his club.
- 4:03Speaker 5: All right, you were, you were just doing the Red
- 4:05Speaker 5: Sox Yankees game. Did they mention anything about Obviously Roman
- 4:09Speaker 5: Anthony wasn't up yet, but Jared Duran is a was
- 4:13Speaker 5: a good center fielder.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Raphael overtook him and they moved him the left.
- 4:18Speaker 5: If Roman Anthony is not great, you're essentially putting him
- 4:22Speaker 5: in a center field. Boston's right field is like a
- 4:24Speaker 5: center field, there's so much area. Why would they not
- 4:27Speaker 5: put him in left? Do they feel like do they
- 4:29Speaker 5: feel like the green Monsta is so hard to play
- 4:32Speaker 5: that they'd rather have him out in right field?
- 4:36Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know the answer to that, Eric,
- 4:38Speaker 1: off the top of my head. When I originally wrote
- 4:40Speaker 1: that column, the idea was Anthony and left, where he's
- 4:43Speaker 1: been playing mostly, or where he is best. Duran in center,
- 4:47Speaker 1: where he was a Gold Glove finalist last year, even
- 4:49Speaker 1: if he's not quite Raphaela and then a bray you
- 4:52Speaker 1: in right with a bray you getting injured. They did
- 4:56Speaker 1: not decide that they wanted to disrupt Duran. They decided
- 5:00Speaker 1: to put Anthony out there. Now, Anthony is a kid
- 5:03Speaker 1: who can handle all three outfield positions. He's quite capable defensively,
- 5:08Speaker 1: and I would imagine that came into it. Maybe let's
- 5:11Speaker 1: not expose him to the monster right away. Let's have
- 5:14Speaker 1: him play right field, which is a big right field.
- 5:16Speaker 1: But he has played center in the minor leagues and
- 5:19Speaker 1: played it at an adequate to above average level, so
- 5:22Speaker 1: I don't see it as that big a deal. But
- 5:24Speaker 1: it's a fair question, for sure.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Ken, did you I'm sure you know this, because you
- 5:29Speaker 3: know everything.
- 5:30Speaker 5: Your broadcast on Fox on Saturday had like three million viewers.
- 5:34Speaker 5: Now I don't know if that was combined between your
- 5:37Speaker 5: broadcast and mine. So you guys got like two million,
- 5:39Speaker 5: nine hundred in ninety nine thousand, and then our Brewers
- 5:42Speaker 5: padres went to like a thousand people.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Is that how it worked? Is that like the breakdown?
- 5:47Speaker 3: And did you request that on purpose or was this
- 5:49Speaker 3: something above your pay grade?
- 5:52Speaker 1: It's well above my pay grade, and you know that.
- 5:55Speaker 1: And as far as I know, aj that three million,
- 5:58Speaker 1: whatever the number was, was just for the Yankees Red
- 6:01Speaker 1: Sox game. And frankly, when I saw that today, that's
- 6:04Speaker 1: the highest ratings since twenty twenty two for a regular
- 6:07Speaker 1: season game, I was rather surprised. The game was okay,
- 6:11Speaker 1: it wasn't great, and the Red Sox are kind of
- 6:13Speaker 1: down right now. But it shows you again, the value
- 6:18Speaker 1: of those teams is from a television perspective, and a
- 6:21Speaker 1: lot of times fans complain, and sometimes I even complain
- 6:25Speaker 1: that we show the same teams over and over again,
- 6:28Speaker 1: But there's a reason for that, because the most people
- 6:31Speaker 1: watch those teams play, and when we put them on
- 6:33Speaker 1: the air, we do the best as far as our
- 6:35Speaker 1: ratings are concerned. So it's an interesting dynamic always because
- 6:40Speaker 1: if you want to promote the entire sport, you should
- 6:42Speaker 1: promote all of their teams. But at the same time,
- 6:44Speaker 1: Fox is running a business, ESPN's running a business TBS,
- 6:47Speaker 1: and they want the largest audience as possible, and that's
- 6:50Speaker 1: certainly understandable given the amount of money they're paying for
- 6:53Speaker 1: the rights.
- 6:54Speaker 5: Hey, I complain every day all we talk about is
- 6:57Speaker 5: Red Sox. But there's a reason why people tune in
- 6:59Speaker 5: for the Dodger, the Red Sox, the Yankees.
- 7:02Speaker 3: There's certain teams. Cubs Cars are also in.
- 7:05Speaker 1: This case AJ in this particular case with the Red Sox,
- 7:08Speaker 1: they're a fascinating case study right now because of these
- 7:11Speaker 1: top prospects that they're bringing to the major leagues, because
- 7:14Speaker 1: they've been a disappointment because they signed Alex Bregman and
- 7:17Speaker 1: traded for Garrett Crochet. They're a really interesting club right
- 7:22Speaker 1: now in a more interesting way. And I'll probably tick
- 7:27Speaker 1: off people when I say that. Then say Kansas City
- 7:29Speaker 1: right now, Kansas City. Yes, they brought up Jack Caglion,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and that's a big deal and that got a lot
- 7:34Speaker 1: of attention as it should have. But they don't have
- 7:37Speaker 1: as many things going on as the Red Sox do.
- 7:39Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying they're
- 7:42Speaker 1: less interesting, because every team is interesting in its own right,
- 7:45Speaker 1: even Miami. But the different dynamics going on with the
- 7:49Speaker 1: Red Sox right now.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Are even the Rockeys, even the Rockets.
- 7:53Speaker 1: They're interesting in their own weird way too. Are they
- 7:56Speaker 1: gonna set the record or not? I mean that's where
- 7:58Speaker 1: they're interesting.
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- 9:01Speaker 5: They swept the Marlins. The Mighty Marlins can come on stick.
- 9:05Speaker 5: I know, I know they're not big market teams, but
- 9:07Speaker 5: the Rockies are getting hot. Okay, Ken, I need you
- 9:09Speaker 5: to watch more all the teams. Eric one team that
- 9:16Speaker 5: you probably didn't want to watch too much of the
- 9:18Speaker 5: last ten games, they were leading the National League with
- 9:21Speaker 5: the best record in baseball, and the Phillies went one
- 9:24Speaker 5: and nine.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Obviously they won last night.
- 9:27Speaker 4: What do they need?
- 9:28Speaker 5: Do they need something that is actually feasible to go
- 9:32Speaker 5: out and get or is it just something that we
- 9:34Speaker 5: say at this time of year and the Phillies team
- 9:36Speaker 5: is the Phillies team and they better figure it out.
- 9:39Speaker 1: They need Bryce Harper healthy, that's for starters. But what
- 9:41Speaker 1: you're asking Eric is beyond that, because with Bryce Harper healthy,
- 9:45Speaker 1: they were not necessarily gangbusters either. Luckfield has been an
- 9:49Speaker 1: issue for them. Center field's been an issue from them.
- 9:52Speaker 1: From an offensive standpoint, You're going to need bullpen help. Obviously,
- 9:56Speaker 1: even with Alvarado coming back, he won't be eligible for
- 9:59Speaker 1: the playoff. They know that that's going to be an
- 10:02Speaker 1: area of focus. If you remember, going back to the offseason,
- 10:06Speaker 1: we talked about or they talked about maybe changing up
- 10:09Speaker 1: the mix a little bit, doing something different just to
- 10:12Speaker 1: jolt the team. And that's where the trade talks involving
- 10:15Speaker 1: Alec Bohm came from. They never got that done for
- 10:18Speaker 1: whatever reason. And it still seems that maybe this team,
- 10:22Speaker 1: which is largely set, could use something from the outside
- 10:27Speaker 1: that would elevate it. I don't know who that player is,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but sometimes a deadline edition can have that galvanizing kind
- 10:34Speaker 1: of force. And if they could go out and get
- 10:37Speaker 1: the right left fielder the right center fielder, that seems
- 10:41Speaker 1: to me to be the kind of play that they
- 10:44Speaker 1: should make.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Let's do it.
- 10:46Speaker 5: There's a great name on there, Kyle Tucker to the Phillies.
- 10:49Speaker 5: Oh wait, they're right they tried Yeah, okay, yeah, they
- 10:54Speaker 5: did try it, right, but they went to the Cubs instead.
- 10:57Speaker 5: Speaking of the National League Padres or the Giants, I
- 11:01Speaker 5: know the Dodgers beat the Padres. It was a great game,
- 11:04Speaker 5: But can they one of these two teams actually catch
- 11:06Speaker 5: the five hundred Dodgers? For like the last month or so,
- 11:10Speaker 5: they've they've been just kind of hovering around five hundred
- 11:12Speaker 5: playing along all the injuries. Can one of these other
- 11:15Speaker 5: teams jump up and bite the Dodgers and win this division?
- 11:18Speaker 1: Well, ja, if you were watching Fair Territory yesterday, you
- 11:21Speaker 1: might have gotten some insight into that. ID is that
- 11:23Speaker 1: a show out here? And I'll answer the question as
- 11:26Speaker 1: best I can. The Padres, my concern with them is
- 11:29Speaker 1: the starting pitching. With Michael King down and you Darvish,
- 11:32Speaker 1: you just don't know what you're going to get from him.
- 11:34Speaker 1: They have done a remarkable job of bringing in lesser
- 11:39Speaker 1: name starters and getting the most out of them. Randy
- 11:42Speaker 1: Vasquez is an example, Colex an example. They just do
- 11:45Speaker 1: this kind of routinely under Aj Preller, and it's really impressive,
- 11:48Speaker 1: to be honest. Their offense in the last month, Tatisa
- 11:52Speaker 1: in the last month hasn't been what it was earlier,
- 11:55Speaker 1: that's for sure. But if they somehow can get Michael
- 12:00Speaker 1: King healthy for sure and get more offense out of
- 12:04Speaker 1: what they're getting. Left field's an issue for them as well,
- 12:07Speaker 1: then yeah, they can hang in there. And the Giants
- 12:09Speaker 1: are really interesting too, second in the majors in era
- 12:12Speaker 1: only to the Mets. They have that They shook up
- 12:15Speaker 1: their roster last week to in their minds, hopefully get
- 12:19Speaker 1: more out of first base, maybe in the outfield as well.
- 12:21Speaker 1: Brought in Dominic Smith and Daniel Johnson and Andrew Kisner.
- 12:26Speaker 1: That's not going to do it, I wouldn't imagine. Those
- 12:28Speaker 1: are guys who are kind of journeyman players and guys
- 12:32Speaker 1: who can help you short term. They're major league players,
- 12:34Speaker 1: but ultimately at the deadline they're going to need to
- 12:37Speaker 1: be more aggressive. And there was an article yesterday written
- 12:40Speaker 1: by Tim Kawakami of the San Francisco Standard, and it
- 12:44Speaker 1: was very interesting because he talked to Buster Posey about
- 12:47Speaker 1: the Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltron trade many years ago.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I believe that was thirteen when that trade was made.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Wheeler was a prospect, and of course he went on
- 12:56Speaker 1: to great things Beltron did well for the Giants, but
- 12:59Speaker 1: they didn't win that year. And Posey said that he
- 13:03Speaker 1: loved that trade, and he was a player back then
- 13:05Speaker 1: in the Giants, but he loved that trade because of
- 13:07Speaker 1: what it represented go for it mentality. So if that
- 13:10Speaker 1: was his feeling, then it's only been reinforced over the years,
- 13:15Speaker 1: and he was clearly stating to Tim Kawakami, that's my
- 13:17Speaker 1: feeling now. So I do expect them to be aggressive
- 13:20Speaker 1: at the deadline. They've got the pitching, they need first
- 13:24Speaker 1: base help, maybe another outfielder. They're an interesting club because
- 13:28Speaker 1: that pitching is so.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Good twenty eleven and then Wheeler debuted in twenty thirteen. Man,
- 13:35Speaker 2: it's been a long time. I remember that trade like
- 13:37Speaker 2: there was yesterday, feeling old. One more question for you
- 13:40Speaker 2: on San Francisco. We haven't talked a ton about him.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Obviously he's not doing much. Are you surprised that Williadamis
- 13:46Speaker 2: has struggled this much? I know guys changed scenery, they
- 13:49Speaker 2: feel the heat like they have to perform and live
- 13:52Speaker 2: up to the contract. I just I thought that there
- 13:56Speaker 2: would be a higher floor for him, and now we're
- 13:58Speaker 2: getting close to the halfway mark.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Of the season.
- 14:00Speaker 2: So when I've watched him actually play, it looks like
- 14:04Speaker 2: a little bit of the fun is sucked out of
- 14:06Speaker 2: him right now, which I thought I would never see.
- 14:08Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel the same way. But
- 14:10Speaker 2: and I'm not there, so I'm not going to try
- 14:12Speaker 2: and comment too much on this, ken. But I'm just
- 14:14Speaker 2: watching from TV and I'm like, Oh, he doesn't look
- 14:16Speaker 2: like the guy that's just joking around with everybody.
- 14:19Speaker 4: You know, it's tough.
- 14:20Speaker 2: He's getting all the money to go here, and then
- 14:22Speaker 2: he's not performing well and these aren't people that he
- 14:24Speaker 2: knows well.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Yet he was certainly early on having fun. Now I
- 14:30Speaker 1: haven't noticed much of a difference lately. I haven't paid
- 14:33Speaker 1: that close attention to that aspect of it. But for
- 14:36Speaker 1: all the talk of Juan Soto struggling with his contract
- 14:39Speaker 1: when he was never really struggling, just struggling by his standards,
- 14:42Speaker 1: what William Damas is doing is really a problem. He's
- 14:46Speaker 1: in the bottom ten, I believe in the league, in
- 14:48Speaker 1: ops the major leagues, and when you pay him that
- 14:52Speaker 1: kind of money, when you bring him in to be
- 14:54Speaker 1: that kind of player, you want a lot more than
- 14:57Speaker 1: you're getting. And part of their offensive struggles sure are
- 15:01Speaker 1: related to the fact that they're getting nothing out of
- 15:04Speaker 1: a guy that was supposed to be, if not a
- 15:07Speaker 1: dominant offensive player, certainly a contributing offensive player. Willie o'domas
- 15:12Speaker 1: at his best is a good offensive players, not great.
- 15:15Speaker 1: So that's been a surprise, and again it speaks to
- 15:18Speaker 1: the difficulty of the transition. When you get all that
- 15:22Speaker 1: money to go to a new team, the expectations are high.
- 15:25Speaker 1: The entire dynamic changes. He's not in Milwaukee anymore. So
- 15:30Speaker 1: while it's no excuse, and I know fans think, well,
- 15:33Speaker 1: he's getting all the money, he shouldn't have a problem.
- 15:35Speaker 1: I get it, and certainly that's an understandable perspective from
- 15:39Speaker 1: a fan's point of view. But at the same time,
- 15:42Speaker 1: we've seen this time and time again. Often players who
- 15:46Speaker 1: get big contracts, who'll go to new cities, they have
- 15:50Speaker 1: a transition period, and it seems that a Dominis is
- 15:53Speaker 1: going through that he's got to be better for them
- 15:56Speaker 1: to get where they want to be. He has to
- 15:57Speaker 1: be a lot better, and we'll see if it happened.
- 16:01Speaker 5: Let's transition from San Francisco up to Sacramento. Can you
- 16:05Speaker 5: hit on the field conditions for us a little bit.
- 16:07Speaker 5: What we're hearing from players, Zach Wheeler talking about he
- 16:11Speaker 5: had no footing, he had to use all arm, Carlos
- 16:15Speaker 5: Correy talking about sliding around in the box is major
- 16:18Speaker 5: League Baseball? Were they aware of it ahead of this
- 16:22Speaker 5: and have they made an adjustment where they're going to
- 16:25Speaker 5: need to come in and help Sacramento figure this out.
- 16:29Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to the second question, but
- 16:32Speaker 1: certainly the league, in conjunction with the players union, got
- 16:36Speaker 1: the ballpark to a point where they both believed, and
- 16:39Speaker 1: the union is part of this too, where they both
- 16:42Speaker 1: believed that this playing field was sufficient, that it was
- 16:46Speaker 1: good enough. And what we're hearing from players on opposing teams.
- 16:50Speaker 1: You're not hearing this from the Athletics because they're probably
- 16:53Speaker 1: too young and too afraid to talk. But what you're
- 16:55Speaker 1: hearing from guys like Correa and Wheeler, these things are disturbing,
- 16:59Speaker 1: and yes they need to be fixed. I don't know.
- 17:01Speaker 1: With the heat in Sacramento coming then it's going to
- 17:04Speaker 1: be really easy to get the field in a different
- 17:07Speaker 1: kind of condition. It's probably going to get worse before
- 17:09Speaker 1: it gets better, I imagine, probably will get harder before
- 17:12Speaker 1: it gets softer. But sure, this is something that needs
- 17:16Speaker 1: to be carefully looked at and considered. And I've written
- 17:20Speaker 1: about this quite a bit. I haven't writen about this
- 17:22Speaker 1: particular issue, but this whole idea of playing in that stadium,
- 17:26Speaker 1: not just for one year because of a natural disaster
- 17:29Speaker 1: like they're doing with Tampa, but for three years maybe more. Well,
- 17:34Speaker 1: it was never a great thought. And here we go
- 17:36Speaker 1: and we've had problems, the team has had problems themselves.
- 17:40Speaker 1: It just isn't a good situation. Yeah awful.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Now you're starting to hear the players speak out about it,
- 17:45Speaker 2: and I really hope that it's not causing injuries like
- 17:48Speaker 2: that Pablo Lopez lost, because that would suck. We have
- 17:51Speaker 2: enough problems with arm injuries as it is. Ken, thank you.
- 17:55Speaker 2: We'll see you on Thursday on Fair Territory.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Sounds good, Thanks Scott.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Thank you, Ken Rosenthal and Alona Rizzo with you live
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- 19:00Speaker 5: I feel like you can mix and match all those,
- 19:03Speaker 5: but I'll be honest, after the Padres, I don't really care,
- 19:09Speaker 5: Like I don't think any of those teams even deserve
- 19:13Speaker 5: to be in the top ten from what I'm seeing
- 19:15Speaker 5: right now. And I kind of had to force those
- 19:19Speaker 5: I had to force those teams. So you mean you
- 19:24Speaker 5: had to force the Phillies who were two and eight
- 19:25Speaker 5: in their last ten and have played horrible for the
- 19:27Speaker 5: last about fifteen games up to number four spot. They
- 19:31Speaker 5: were ten bad games. Has anybody had ten bad games
- 19:35Speaker 5: after they were the best record in the National League?
- 19:38Speaker 3: Never? But isn't this right now? Or is this it's
- 19:42Speaker 3: a mix?
- 19:42Speaker 2: It's how you look at it. Yeah, so you don't
- 19:44Speaker 2: like the Giants, the Twins, or the Astros.
- 19:47Speaker 5: I don't like. I don't I don't like what the
- 19:50Speaker 5: team has in total. For a when I looked at
- 19:54Speaker 5: power rankings, I look, what does a team have in total?
- 19:56Speaker 5: What do they have moving forward? As are going to
- 20:01Speaker 5: have to figure out how to score runs? So I'm like, Okay, well,
- 20:05Speaker 5: the Padres, you know, they're kind of in that same boat.
- 20:08Speaker 5: I think the Padres are a little more electric. I
- 20:10Speaker 5: think they have a power packed lineup, but they're starting
- 20:16Speaker 5: pitching is what it is. You know, Pavetta's gonna kind
- 20:18Speaker 5: of go down. I feel like Cease has to be
- 20:21Speaker 5: that ace, not not he's going to go down, saying
- 20:24Speaker 5: Pavetta is going to, you know, come back to earth.
- 20:27Speaker 5: He had a good he had a good start to
- 20:29Speaker 5: the season. I feel like some of the metrics say
- 20:31Speaker 5: he's going to regress a little bit. And so the
- 20:34Speaker 5: Padres could be in that in that mix of like
- 20:38Speaker 5: I don't really know about them. And I didn't have
- 20:40Speaker 5: the Cubs higher because I'm not sure the Cubs lineup
- 20:45Speaker 5: can carry the entire team. And so to me, I
- 20:49Speaker 5: picked my power rankings based on the fact that these
- 20:52Speaker 5: are teams that show me that they're going to have
- 20:56Speaker 5: strength for the rest of the season. They're gonna have
- 20:59Speaker 5: success for the law Hall. And that's really why I
- 21:01Speaker 5: put the Mets up there. I was a very skeptical
- 21:04Speaker 5: about them not having enough starting pitching. But who's who's
- 21:07Speaker 5: starting pitching? Would you rather have right now? The Mets
- 21:11Speaker 5: or the Dodgers.
- 21:13Speaker 4: Right now? The Mets, for sure.
- 21:16Speaker 2: The Dodgers have Yama Moto. Of course, I look good
- 21:20Speaker 2: the other day, but Dustin May. Dustin May look okay
- 21:26Speaker 2: then yesterday, Uh sweeper. Wait here, So here's where there's
- 21:33Speaker 2: a difference.
- 21:34Speaker 4: AJ.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Why don't you roll out your list and then I
- 21:36Speaker 2: think you and I are in the same page about
- 21:38Speaker 2: something and we can debate it with Well, first.
- 21:41Speaker 3: Of all, I do because Dodgers just get bored.
- 21:44Speaker 5: You saw they showed up to play the Padres and
- 21:46Speaker 5: I was not know it was a hell of a game,
- 21:47Speaker 5: and they yet they started hitting right.
- 21:50Speaker 3: They kind of get a little bored, Okay, but they're
- 21:52Speaker 3: still the best team.
- 21:53Speaker 5: They're jaded, They're still the best team. I'm sorry, I
- 21:55Speaker 5: don't care you say whatever you want. They're the best team.
- 21:57Speaker 5: That's or second for me because the Mets are right there.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Okay. Three for me is the Tigers. Though Tigers are
- 22:03Speaker 3: the best record in.
- 22:03Speaker 5: The American League, they have in the in the one
- 22:06Speaker 5: two punch if they're healthy of Scooball and Flairty is
- 22:09Speaker 5: as good as you could probably find. And the way
- 22:11Speaker 5: Hinch handles the bullpen top notch. Okay, then I go Cubs.
- 22:16Speaker 5: That's that's kind of a big jump for me. But
- 22:18Speaker 5: I just think their offense is that good, and if
- 22:20Speaker 5: they figure out Palencia has kind of figured out the
- 22:22Speaker 5: back end for him. I think I think council knows
- 22:25Speaker 5: how to handle it. By the way, love you, Lucial,
- 22:27Speaker 5: You're awesome to me. Padres are five, Giant six. It's
- 22:30Speaker 5: hard to separate those two. Phillies are seventh because they
- 22:33Speaker 5: haven't played worth the crap and they can't hit. They
- 22:36Speaker 5: they with Harper out, they haven't hit. So that's why
- 22:40Speaker 5: Yankees eight for me. And then the last two Astros Cardinals.
- 22:44Speaker 5: I just I just did them a solid. The Astros
- 22:46Speaker 5: in first place. They took over your Mariners, and the
- 22:48Speaker 5: Cardinals are playing good. If they could get Ryan Helsley
- 22:50Speaker 5: just to save a game, I think he's blown his
- 22:53Speaker 5: last three saves.
- 22:53Speaker 3: They might even be at nine. This is a huge difference.
- 22:58Speaker 4: It's a good list.
- 22:59Speaker 2: We've had a lot of similarities here, so I'll jump
- 23:02Speaker 2: right to mine and then we can pick.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Apart, so he deserves it.
- 23:08Speaker 2: The Cardinals do look like a top time team in
- 23:12Speaker 2: the sport right now. I've got Mets one over the
- 23:16Speaker 2: Dodgers right now. Should the Dodgers have a better rotation
- 23:20Speaker 2: than the Mets come playoff time? Yeah, but I have
- 23:22Speaker 2: no idea what it's going to look like. So I've
- 23:25Speaker 2: still got them as a top notch team. But I
- 23:27Speaker 2: think these teams are pretty close offense defense. Give the
- 23:32Speaker 2: Dodgers an edge with their bullpen, not a huge edge,
- 23:36Speaker 2: and then give the Mets an edge with their rotation
- 23:38Speaker 2: right now. Mets have guys coming back soon too, Sean
- 23:41Speaker 2: and Iya could be their ace.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Yeah, those two are close. Those two of me are
- 23:48Speaker 3: the easiest two probably on this whole list to figure out.
- 23:50Speaker 4: I agree.
- 23:50Speaker 2: For me, I am much higher on the Padres than
- 23:53Speaker 2: most of the rest of life since the offseason.
- 23:56Speaker 3: I mean I got them at five.
- 23:57Speaker 2: No, you're right, I'm saying they're are still even. The
- 24:01Speaker 2: Athletics list had them like eight.
- 24:03Speaker 4: Or nine.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Still, I'm like, what else do they have to prove?
- 24:06Speaker 2: They're neck and neck with the Dodgers. Their bullpen is sick,
- 24:09Speaker 2: they lost by a run last night.
- 24:11Speaker 4: This is a good team. They're missing guys too that
- 24:13Speaker 4: will come back.
- 24:15Speaker 2: I'm sure Michael King's going to figure it out to
- 24:17Speaker 2: get himself back, hopefully for their cause, you darbish will
- 24:20Speaker 2: be back at some point. I got the Tigers four,
- 24:23Speaker 2: so for me, I want to put some National Legue
- 24:25Speaker 2: teams ahead first, because I do think the NL is
- 24:27Speaker 2: better than the ALE. So then I'm like, Okay, I
- 24:29Speaker 2: can start my AL excursion at four with the Tigers,
- 24:32Speaker 2: five with the Yankees. Then I go back to the
- 24:34Speaker 2: National League Cubs. These are teams that I think have
- 24:38Speaker 2: a few more flaws Cubs. Do I trust the bullpen
- 24:41Speaker 2: to maintain itself? Like that offense looks great, Phillies, They're
- 24:45Speaker 2: gonna have to redoce some things with their bullpen in
- 24:47Speaker 2: addition to getting some more life back from their offense.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Giants eight, they're there, they're playing well. I don't know
- 24:53Speaker 2: if I trust the offense long term, but the pitching's there.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Astros.
- 24:56Speaker 2: For me, I actually felt really good about at nine
- 24:58Speaker 2: they're leading the Als, they're playing good. They're missing Jordan
- 25:00Speaker 2: Alvarez for a while now, and he's gonna come back
- 25:02Speaker 2: at some point unless they discover yet another injury that
- 25:05Speaker 2: the medical staff missed. And then the Cardinals at ten
- 25:08Speaker 2: they deserve it. Solid team playing well. Not sure what
- 25:12Speaker 2: they'll do at the deadline. Are they gonna go all
- 25:13Speaker 2: in and pick up a big piece or two? I'm
- 25:15Speaker 2: not sure, but this right now is a contender. Yeah,
- 25:20Speaker 2: we have the Phillies quite a few spots lower than
- 25:24Speaker 2: the guy with the red hat on.
- 25:25Speaker 3: Do you have what the Phillies had on? You mean,
- 25:31Speaker 3: it's even.
- 25:31Speaker 4: Worse braves for anyone listening on the pod later on.
- 25:37Speaker 3: But I just can't.
- 25:39Speaker 5: I just can't put the Phillies there right now because
- 25:43Speaker 5: Harper and their offense is not score runs. They're just
- 25:46Speaker 5: not scoring runs the way we expect them to score runs.
- 25:50Speaker 4: Aren't they really?
- 25:51Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Wheelers really good. Nola hasn't been good.
- 25:53Speaker 4: No, and he's been hurt me too.
- 25:55Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean of their bullpen, Romano, like, is that
- 25:59Speaker 5: what you're going to count on the ninth Denny? I
- 26:02Speaker 5: can say I can say that their bullpen is I mean,
- 26:05Speaker 5: they're gonna have to Dave Dombrowski is going to do
- 26:08Speaker 5: something with that bullpen. He's going to go and get
- 26:11Speaker 5: guys he missed in the offseason, going to get Jordan Romano.
- 26:15Speaker 5: He thought he was gonna bounce back.
- 26:17Speaker 3: He hasn't. He had like a six game stretch.
- 26:19Speaker 5: I can't I can't get on board with their starting
- 26:22Speaker 5: rotation being being bad. Their starting rotation has been electric
- 26:27Speaker 5: during this time. The only person that had a stinker
- 26:29Speaker 5: in these last ten games, which you have to remember,
- 26:31Speaker 5: they had the best They had the best record in
- 26:33Speaker 5: the National League before these last ten games. So this
- 26:37Speaker 5: is recency bias that you guys have pushed him down.
- 26:40Speaker 5: But the only the only starting pitcher that gave up
- 26:43Speaker 5: more than two runs was Jesus Wizardo and that was twice.
- 26:48Speaker 5: So you got Christopher Sanchez doing it. You have Ranger
- 26:51Speaker 5: Suarez who's doing it. You have Zach Wheeler, who I
- 26:54Speaker 5: don't think he's a cy young leader right now, but
- 26:56Speaker 5: he's a top three guy with Skeins and Yamamoto Like
- 27:00Speaker 5: to me, this the solid rotation that they have may
- 27:07Speaker 5: enable them to maneuver some things later on in the season. Here,
- 27:14Speaker 5: I just worry about their offense. Home runs per game
- 27:17Speaker 5: in the small park seventeen in baseball, but seventeen, But
- 27:24Speaker 5: that was there, That was the that was the reason
- 27:26Speaker 5: that Scott says, well, this is a this is not
- 27:29Speaker 5: a playoff lineup. So they've changed to not hitting as
- 27:34Speaker 5: many home runs, and they've almost decreased their strikeouts per
- 27:38Speaker 5: game by an entire strikeout from last year. So they're
- 27:41Speaker 5: striking out last, putting the ball in play more, and
- 27:45Speaker 5: they haven't scored as many runs. So should they go
- 27:47Speaker 5: back to the all or nothing? Dingers are nothing? You know,
- 27:51Speaker 5: they're they're definitely watching them play. It feels like they're
- 27:56Speaker 5: trying to change what got them knocked out the last
- 28:01Speaker 5: two years. But it's not producing more runs. It's just
- 28:05Speaker 5: producing less strikeouts, which is the exact reason why all
- 28:09Speaker 5: the metrics say strikeouts have no big deal, are not
- 28:12Speaker 5: a big deal.
- 28:14Speaker 3: So they're there.
- 28:14Speaker 5: It almost looks like they're toying with things like, oh,
- 28:17Speaker 5: we're gonna try to take the ball the other way,
- 28:19Speaker 5: we're gonna try to get the base hit through the middle,
- 28:23Speaker 5: shorten up with two strikes and they're doing less damage.
- 28:26Speaker 3: So is that good or bad?
- 28:28Speaker 5: It sounds like you're trying to sell me on the
- 28:30Speaker 5: Phillies and Scott and ain't buying, doesn't it he's trying
- 28:32Speaker 5: to make excuses for what they're not hitting. They're not
- 28:34Speaker 5: hitting for power. Charver's the one a guy right now
- 28:37Speaker 5: that can hit a home run, and he's not hitting them.
- 28:41Speaker 3: They're trying.
- 28:41Speaker 5: They're trying something different because of exactly what their goal is.
- 28:46Speaker 5: It's World Series. What did Bob Nightingale say yesterday? World Series?
- 28:50Speaker 5: Or bust and swinging and missing and constantly not making
- 28:54Speaker 5: contact in October was killing them.
- 28:57Speaker 4: So yep, we'll see. Yeah, yeah they have to hit
- 29:03Speaker 4: good pitching. I'll get yeah, they do.
- 29:09Speaker 2: I'll give one more props at the end here to
- 29:10Speaker 2: the Mets, because I didn't think I was going to
- 29:12Speaker 2: take the Dodgers off the top seat the whole year.
- 29:14Speaker 4: And I mean, you haven't, but you at least had
- 29:17Speaker 4: to think about it.
- 29:18Speaker 3: I thought about it.
- 29:19Speaker 5: But listen, until they're the defending champs. They win when
- 29:23Speaker 5: they need to. They still have that lineup, they'll figure
- 29:26Speaker 5: out the pitching. They won the pitching with no starting
- 29:28Speaker 5: pitching last year, they won.
- 29:29Speaker 3: The World Series.
- 29:29Speaker 5: You're right, so to me, listen unless they go on
- 29:33Speaker 5: to two and eight like the Phillies are on right
- 29:35Speaker 5: now or one and nine.
- 29:36Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard for me to knock them out.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been playing five hundred ball for the last
- 29:40Speaker 2: few weeks. But look at their schedule. Yankees, Mets Padres.
- 29:44Speaker 2: They're playing good teams.
- 29:46Speaker 3: The Padres came in their game and a half behind them.
- 29:48Speaker 3: What they do. They won last night. Yeah, it was
- 29:49Speaker 3: a great game. It was a great extra ing they won.
- 29:52Speaker 4: But their neck and neck.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dodgers are playing a different game for most
- 29:59Speaker 2: of the rest of ball because they're.
- 30:00Speaker 5: Just trying to get into the postseason and then we
- 30:03Speaker 5: will it work. And they're veterans. You have to understand.
- 30:06Speaker 5: It's a bunch of veterans. Look at their lineup show
- 30:08Speaker 5: Hey Freddie, Mookie, Muncy, Will Smith, Oscar these guys have
- 30:13Speaker 5: done it. They know, they know, like they know, like,
- 30:16Speaker 5: just get us to the postseason.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Guys, they're trying to crack the code.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Can a team win a World Series and then win
- 30:21Speaker 2: another one because we haven't seen it in a long time.
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