Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Kent Hovind Creation Seminar 3 - Dinosaurs and the Bible
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- 0:01You know, for many years, the existence of dinosaur fossils
- 0:04was thought to be a problem for creationists and for the
- 0:07biblical account of creation. Hi, my name is Eric, and what
- 0:11you're about to see is a powerful seminar that combines
- 0:13the last 30 years of research done by Doctor Hovind.
- 0:17It's in a field called cryptozoology, which is the
- 0:20study of hidden animals. The seminar is titled Dinosaurs
- 0:24and the Bible. Well, thank you for joining us.
- 0:49It's an honor to be here at Hiles Anderson College in
- 0:53Indiana. How many have been to one of my
- 0:55seminars before or seen one of the videos before?
- 0:58OK And how many never have? And how many do not understand
- 1:02the question? So far, Good.
- 1:05Same three as yesterday? Good.
- 1:08Well, my name is Kent Hovind. I taught high school science for
- 1:1015 years, and now for the last 16 years I've been an
- 1:13evangelist. I speak about 900 * a year now
- 1:15on the subject of creation, evolution, and dinosaurs.
- 1:19And I take the position that the Bible is literally true and
- 1:22scientifically accurate, and the evolution theory being taught in
- 1:25our schools in violation of the 1st amendment is the dumbest and
- 1:28most dangerous religion in the history of planet Earth.
- 1:31No Dumber idea ever. Anyway, I live in Pensacola, FL.
- 1:35I have three kids, one of each got them all married and the dog
- 1:38died. Praise God I made it.
- 1:39I'm home free and so far 4 grandkids.
- 1:42And that's definitely God's reward for not killing your own
- 1:44kids when you thought about it. So hang in there, it'll be worth
- 1:48it all. All my family lives right around
- 1:49me and they all work in our ministry.
- 1:52So it's great heaven kids that love the Lord.
- 1:54And a couple of them are back here at the back table.
- 1:55Back there and one running the camera we have in our backyard
- 1:59in Pensacola, FL. Dinosaur Adventureland.
- 2:02I like dinosaurs. Our phone number is 479 Dino.
- 2:07Our website is Doctor Dino. Dinosaur Adventureland's phone
- 2:10number is 478 Dino. 3466 for you alphabetically challenged folks.
- 2:15We like dinosaurs. We have thousands and thousands
- 2:17of visitors. Come.
- 2:18We've had probably close to 1000 people get saved coming through
- 2:21our dinosaur Adventureland. Everything we do there has a
- 2:24science lesson and a spiritual lesson.
- 2:26We have a blast using dinosaurs for the glory of God.
- 2:28But you know, for the last 200 years, Christians have been
- 2:31extremely confused about where dinosaurs fit into the Bible.
- 2:36I heard a lady last night. I was talking to a witness unto
- 2:38a lady at the hotel. She said, well, I got a friend
- 2:41that told me dinosaurs never existed.
- 2:45One guy told me. He said, well, the devil put
- 2:46those bones in the ground to fool us.
- 2:50Well, you're going to look like a real idiot when talking to
- 2:53anybody with normal intelligence when you say something like
- 2:55that. OK, yes, dinosaurs lived, but
- 2:58when did they live? Where do dinosaurs fit into the
- 3:00Bible? Here are two of my grandkids
- 3:02playing with one of the dinosaurs at Dinosaur
- 3:03Adventureland. We have a wonderful time.
- 3:05Christians, though, often are very confused of where they fit
- 3:08in. What's happened?
- 3:10Christians have compromised the clear teaching of the Bible in
- 3:12order to accommodate the dinosaurs.
- 3:14That's why they have the gap theory, or the day age theory,
- 3:16or progressive creation, or theistic evolution.
- 3:19There's no need to do that. I'm going to give you the
- 3:21biblical view of dinosaurs here this morning.
- 3:23Now, this guy in national pornographic A Geographic says
- 3:28no human being has ever seen a live dinosaur.
- 3:31Now just hold on a minute. Does he know that or does he
- 3:34think that he thinks that there is no possible way he could know
- 3:38something like that unless he talked to everybody that ever
- 3:41lived? Do you think he talked to Adam
- 3:43and Eve before he wrote that? Did he talk to you before he
- 3:46wrote that? No.
- 3:48OK, that's just not something you can know.
- 3:50The Bible says in the beginning God created the heaven and the
- 3:53earth. It says in six days the Lord
- 3:55made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is well.
- 3:59If he made everything in six days, then Adam must have seen
- 4:02dinosaurs. There's just no two ways about
- 4:06it. And yesterday we talked about
- 4:08Seminar Part 2, what the Garden of Eden was like.
- 4:11It says, God said, let there be a firmament in the midst of the
- 4:14waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
- 4:18We talked about how God originally created the world
- 4:20with a canopy of water overhead, which all fell down at the time
- 4:23of the flood. It's gone now.
- 4:24And there was most of the water under the crust of the earth,
- 4:27which all came shooting to the surface when the fountains of
- 4:29the deep broke open. Psalm 24 The earth is the
- 4:32Lord's. He founded it upon the seas and
- 4:34established it upon the floods. Psalm 136.
- 4:37He stretched out the earth above the waters.
- 4:39I don't know why Christians can read that, read right over it
- 4:42and not see what it's saying. The water that's now in the
- 4:45ocean used to be in the crust of the earth, but all it all came
- 4:47shooting out when the fountains of the deep broke open.
- 4:49We cover much more on that on video.
- 4:51Number six, what caused the flood in the days of Noah, We
- 4:55call it the Hoven theory, so nobody else will get blamed for
- 4:57it. But from the creation 6000 years
- 4:59ago up until the flood 4400 years ago, the world was very
- 5:04different during that time frame.
- 5:06The Bible says the people lived over 900 years.
- 5:08They really honestly did live to be 900.
- 5:12Plus it's interesting. Many ancient cultures have a
- 5:15legend about what they called the Golden Age.
- 5:17The Babylonians, the Sumerians, the Egyptians all talked about a
- 5:20time when man used to live to near to be nearly 1000.
- 5:23Well, that's because it was really true.
- 5:26They really did live to be almost 1000.
- 5:29And yesterday we covered how reptiles grow all their life.
- 5:32Reptiles never stop growing. So dinosaurs were big lizards
- 5:38that lived with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
- 5:41They did not live millions of years ago.
- 5:44So the obvious question would be, well they did Noah take
- 5:46dinosaurs on the ark? They asked Billy Graham were
- 5:50there dinosaurs on Noah's Ark? Billy Graham said no.
- 5:53Noah's ark did not include dinosaurs because they were
- 5:55extinct by the time man got here.
- 5:58Oh, and I praise God for all the good Billy Graham has done, but
- 6:01he is dead wrong about that one. OK, dinosaurs on the ark.
- 6:07Well, I hope you kept the woodpeckers in a steel cage of
- 6:09some kind. That'll be important later.
- 6:13People say dinosaurs on the ark. Now, hoven.
- 6:16They're kind of big, aren't they?
- 6:18Yeah, the big ones were big, but the little ones were little.
- 6:25See, Noah was 600 years old when he built that boat.
- 6:27OK. He's probably smart enough to
- 6:28figure out. You don't have to bring the
- 6:30biggest ones you can find. OK, You bring 2 babies.
- 6:33Just be sure to get a pink one and a blue one.
- 6:35That'll be important later. OK.
- 6:36There are all kinds of reasons for bringing babies on the ark.
- 6:39OK, You bring babies because they're smaller.
- 6:41Well, duh. You know, the biggest dinosaur
- 6:44egg is smaller than a football. You bring babies because they
- 6:48weigh less, they eat less, they sleep a lot more.
- 6:50They're tougher. You know, kids fall down and
- 6:52bounce and get up and keep running.
- 6:55Adults fall down and break or lay there for a while.
- 7:00Plus, you bring babies because after the flood, they're going
- 7:02to live longer to produce more offspring, and that's the reason
- 7:04you're bringing them. Why on earth would you bring big
- 7:07elephants on the Ark? I mean, that would be stupid for
- 7:09multiple reasons. OK?
- 7:12Why would you bring big giraffes?
- 7:13Just bring babies of everything, young ones.
- 7:16God and God told him to bring two of every sort.
- 7:19Not two of every species, two of every sort.
- 7:23He said bring them after his kind.
- 7:25After their kind. After his kind, After his kind.
- 7:27I mean, the Bible's, you know, real clear on the topic.
- 7:30You bring the kinds of animals, not the species, and you only
- 7:34have to bring those in whose nostrils was the breath of life,
- 7:36and only those on dry land. No, one did not have to bring
- 7:40any fish on the ark. They had plenty of water
- 7:44outside. OK.
- 7:46He also did not have to bring any bugs on the ark, because
- 7:48bugs don't have nostrils. Bugs breathe through their skin,
- 7:52through spiracles. Insects were not required to be
- 7:55in the ark. Insects can survive a flood just
- 7:57fine. Go any place where there's been
- 8:00a flood. After the water goes down, walk
- 8:02out into the mud and tell me the first thing You notice bugs by
- 8:06the bazillions, right? Yeah.
- 8:09Insects did not have to go on there.
- 8:10Some of them might have been on there, but they didn't have to
- 8:12be. Noah did not take 400 pairs of
- 8:14dogs on the ark. Noah probably never saw a
- 8:18Chihuahua in his life. Why did somebody do that to the
- 8:22dog? All that special breeding to
- 8:26create a dog that's 100% useless.
- 8:33Noah probably just had a generic dog like my dog Nikki.
- 8:37We had Nikki for 12 years before I knew what kind of dog it was.
- 8:41A friend of mine came to the house one day and he said,
- 8:43Hoeven, you have got a full blooded canardly.
- 8:47He said. A what?
- 8:48He said your dog. Look at that, that's a canardly.
- 8:51I said it is. He said.
- 8:53Well look at it man. You can hardly tell what kind of
- 8:55dog it is. Full blooded canardly, probably
- 9:01The horse and the zebra had a common ancestor like this
- 9:03Mexican textbook says, and I would agree.
- 9:05The horse and the zebra had a common ancestor but it looked
- 9:07like a horse. OK, 4 wheel drive, genuine
- 9:09leather upholstery. I mean all the horse equipment.
- 9:12OK. Skeptics say how did Noah fit
- 9:14those millions of animals onto the ark?
- 9:16Well, the 1st place, he only brought land animals.
- 9:17OK. Secondly, you bring those with
- 9:19nostrils, no bugs. Thirdly, you bring babies.
- 9:21Now that's just plain old common sense, right?
- 9:24Fourthly, you bring 2 of each kind, not every single variety.
- 9:27And since God made the kinds and God told Noah how big to build a
- 9:31boat, I bet God had it kind of figured out, you know, about
- 9:34what size to make it, you know? Plus how many were there?
- 9:37Many experts will tell you there are about 8000 basic kinds of
- 9:40animals in the world. 8000 basic kinds of animals.
- 9:44Noah had two of each kind. Not seven of some, I understand,
- 9:47but plenty of room on the ark for that samathia say, well,
- 9:51Adam could never name all those animals in one day.
- 9:53Oh, come on. When I get excited, I can speak
- 9:55350 words a minute. At 300 words a minute, you can
- 9:59name all the animals in 26 minutes.
- 10:01Dog, cat, elephant, aardvark, hamster.
- 10:03I mean, come on. It's not a big deal.
- 10:05Plus, you got to figure Adam had an extremely high Iqi mean, he
- 10:08came straight from the hand of God, fully programmed.
- 10:12He could speak every language in the world.
- 10:15There's only one. OK.
- 10:17I mean, the guy could walk, talk, name all the animals and
- 10:19get married. First day.
- 10:22This guy's super high IQ. OK, no problem naming all the
- 10:25animals in 1/2 hour. OK, what's next?
- 10:27All right, What else you got for me?
- 10:28God. Plus, how big was the ark?
- 10:33I have atheists that I debate all the time.
- 10:34They'll say, well, Noah could never put all those animals on
- 10:36the ark. I say, really, how many were
- 10:37there? I say, well, we don't know.
- 10:40Oh, well, how big was the boat? Well, we don't know.
- 10:42All we know is he couldn't do it.
- 10:45Oh, I see. Is that the way this works?
- 10:47OK. It beats what they believe.
- 10:49They believe 18 or 20 billion years ago there was a Big Bang
- 10:52where nothing exploded and made everything.
- 10:56And 4.6 billion years ago the Earth cooled down and formed a
- 10:59rocky crust. Yes, the planet Earth cooled and
- 11:02a rocky surface was created. And then as the earth formed,
- 11:05the surface was hot and there were large pools of bubbling
- 11:07lava. This textbook says there was no
- 11:10oxygen on the earth, 0% oxygen, but the rocks absorbed it.
- 11:16So what? I've been trying to figure out
- 11:18that one out for four years. But anyway then oceans formed as
- 11:21it rained on the rocks for millions of years.
- 11:24Millions of years of torrential rains created the oceans.
- 11:27And swirling in the waters of the oceans is a bubbling broth
- 11:30of complex chemicals. Progress from a complex chemical
- 11:34soup to a living Organism is very slow.
- 11:37Boy it sure is. It don't even happen.
- 11:39That's how slow it is. Life on Earth may have begun in
- 11:43rocks on the ocean floor. Wow.
- 11:45All came from a rock. The first self replicating
- 11:48systems must have emerged in this organic soup.
- 11:52So according to their theory, 20 billion years ago there was a
- 11:54Big Bang 4.6 billion years ago the earth form.
- 11:57It was a hot ball of rock and then it began to rain and rain
- 12:01and rain and rain and rain and rain.
- 12:02And finally the oceans filled in.
- 12:03And in the oceans the first living organisms appeared.
- 12:06So great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great,
- 12:08great, great, great, great. Grandpa was soup.
- 12:13That's the evolution theory. I didn't make it up but they
- 12:15did. So, you know, you can laugh at
- 12:16them if you like, far as I'm concerned.
- 12:17But now I I asked me to come speak at this College in Boston.
- 12:21One time, this pastor, I was going to speak at the church.
- 12:24I said, brother, call some of the colleges and see if you can
- 12:26have a debate. I love to do debates against
- 12:28these guys in front of their own university.
- 12:30Well, he called every college within 100 miles of Boston, or a
- 12:33lot of them. There's a lot of colleges around
- 12:34Boston. And finally one college said no,
- 12:37we don't want him to come have a debate, but he can come speak to
- 12:39our students if our professors can ask him any questions they
- 12:42would like because we would like to show our students how dumb
- 12:45you Christians really are. I said I would be honoured to
- 12:50come for that. So I showed up.
- 12:54There were six professors, all their students.
- 12:57I felt like Daniel and the lions Dan, you know, I got my 2
- 12:59timelines out over there and I said, now folks, I believe the
- 13:02Bible. Nobody cheered.
- 13:05I said I believe 6000 years ago God made everything and 4400
- 13:09years ago there was a flood when, you know, everything got
- 13:11destroyed in the in the flood. And then Noah had two of each
- 13:15kind, not species kind, on the ark.
- 13:18Now, since then, there's been a whole lot of new varieties
- 13:20produced. And then I told them what they
- 13:22believe, because most of them don't know what they believe.
- 13:23You got to tell them, you know, I said, you guys believe 20
- 13:26billion years ago, Big Bang 4.6 billion years ago, the Earth
- 13:28cooled down. It rained on the rocks for
- 13:30millions of years, turned them into soup, and the soup came
- 13:31alive 3 billion years ago. This one professor was getting
- 13:35very angry. I seem to do that to them, he
- 13:40said. Mr. Hoeven, you realize there
- 13:42are nearly 400 varieties of dogs in the world today?
- 13:46I said, Sir, I have no idea how many, but 400 sounds good, he
- 13:50said. You mean to tell me that you
- 13:51believe all those dogs came from two dogs on Noah's Ark.
- 13:54You want me to believe that? I said, Sir, would you look at
- 13:59what you're teaching your students, you're teaching your
- 14:02students that all those dogs came from a rock?
- 14:09He didn't have any more questions.
- 14:10After that. I did a debate one time at
- 14:14university and afterwards this lady came walking down the
- 14:16aisle. Boy, she was mad.
- 14:17The smoke was coming out her nose.
- 14:18She was angry at me. She came walking straight up
- 14:21toward me. I said, Lord, I'm coming home.
- 14:25She walked up, put her hands on her hips and she said, Tonight
- 14:29you told everybody that we believe we come from a rock.
- 14:31We do not believe that. I said, ma'am, you need to calm
- 14:34down. You're going to blow a gasket.
- 14:37I said, Ma'am, do you believe in evolution?
- 14:39She said yes, I do. I'm a professor here at the
- 14:41university. I said, Well, ma'am, would you
- 14:44please tell me then where we came from?
- 14:46She said. We came from a macro molecule, I
- 14:50said. And where did that come from?
- 14:52She said. From the oceans, from the
- 14:53prebiotic soup, I said. And where did that come from?
- 14:58She said it rained on the rocks for millions of years.
- 15:03You can see her slowly dawning on her.
- 15:04You know, I do believe I come from a rock.
- 15:07Yes, ma'am, you do. Better be careful going outside.
- 15:09Don't step on Grandpa. I found her life verse saying to
- 15:15a stock thou art my father to a stone thou has brought me forth.
- 15:19There's Grandpa right there. Yep, Yep.
- 15:23I even found my daddy's life verse in the Bible.
- 15:25Lord have mercy on my son for he is a lunatic and sore fixed
- 15:29anyway. The Bible says the earth was
- 15:32corrupt and filled with violence.
- 15:35And God looked upon the earth and it was corrupt.
- 15:37All flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
- 15:40And God said to Noah, the end of all flesh has come before me.
- 15:42The earth is filled with violence.
- 15:43Through them I will destroy them with the earth, make thee an
- 15:47ark. And Noah said to his boys, boys,
- 15:51go for wood. We got to build a boat.
- 15:53And so they went and got all this wood and they built this
- 15:55huge boat. Now, after the flood was over,
- 15:58Noah's son had a baby and named him Arphaxad.
- 16:03Why would anybody name a kid Arfaxad?
- 16:07Can't you see that kid in kindergarten?
- 16:09What's your name, son? Arfaxad.
- 16:13Do you know how to spell it? No, nobody does.
- 16:20But don't you think one day little Arfaxad's getting big
- 16:22enough? He's sitting on grandpa's lap
- 16:23and he's looking around like kids do.
- 16:25He says, hey grandpa, I have AI. Have a question.
- 16:29How come we're the only people in the whole world?
- 16:32You mean we got this whole planet to ourself?
- 16:35What? What happened?
- 16:37And grandpa's going to tell him the story about the flood.
- 16:40Actually, they're going to talk about that flood for a long
- 16:42time. We're down in Pensacola.
- 16:45We're going to be talking about Hurricane Ivan for a long time.
- 16:47OK? And that's just one little
- 16:49storm. Can you imagine a worldwide
- 16:51flood, man? They talk about that for
- 16:53centuries, actually. Our fact says Daddy Shem, Noah's
- 16:58son, live long enough to tell that story directly to Abraham,
- 17:01Isaac and Jacob. You'll never catch that reading
- 17:05your Bible. But when you graph it out, it's
- 17:06like, wow, that's unbelievable. Do you know they're still
- 17:12talking about that flood in many cultures around the world?
- 17:15So far, 270 flood legends have been identified in different
- 17:18countries and cultures around the world.
- 17:21The Hawaiians have a legend that says long after the death of
- 17:24Kunihana, the first man, the world became a wicked, terrible
- 17:27place to live. There was one good man left.
- 17:29His name was Nuu. He made a great canoe with a
- 17:33house on it and filled it with animals.
- 17:37The waters came up over all the earth and killed all the people.
- 17:39Only Nu and his family were saved.
- 17:42One family saved in a boat full of animals.
- 17:45Sounds kind of like the Bible story, doesn't it?
- 17:47The Chinese have a legend called the Hiking Classic.
- 17:50They say that Fuhai is the father of their civilization.
- 17:52Fuhai is probably Noah. OK, the story says Fuhai, his
- 17:56wife, three sons and three daughters escaped a great flood.
- 18:00He and his family were the only people alive on earth.
- 18:02After the great flood they repopulated the world.
- 18:05Interesting. Now the Mexican, The Tolik
- 18:08Indians in Mexico have a very interesting story.
- 18:10They said the first world lasted 17116 years and was destroyed by
- 18:14a flood that covered the highest mountains.
- 18:16One family named Coxcox survived 17116 years.
- 18:22Well, the Bible dates add up to 1656 from the creation to the
- 18:27flood, but that's not bad for a legend. 4000 years old question.
- 18:32Why would there be nearly 300 flood legends?
- 18:35I think it's because there was a flood.
- 18:39That's my theory. OK, probably the Atlantis
- 18:42legend. Everybody's searching for the
- 18:43lost continent of Atlanta. Probably it's another flood
- 18:45legend. As far as the folks on the boat
- 18:47were concerned. The whole world sank beneath the
- 18:49waves. Actually, they were going up.
- 18:51The world wasn't going down. I think Atlantis is another
- 18:54flood story. Anyway, if you look at the
- 18:56country of Turkey, at the far right hand side, you will see a
- 18:59mountain called Mount Ararat. It is 12 miles from the Russian
- 19:02border, very politically unstable region on a Turkish
- 19:06map. It's called Noah Ongamshi, which
- 19:08means Noah's big boat. That's the name of the region.
- 19:11They've got signs. You drive right up to it.
- 19:14Noah's big boat this way. 5 kilometers.
- 19:17The Bible says the Ark rested in the seventh month.
- 19:21Now that's interesting. Noah did not get out till the
- 19:2413th month. Why would he stand there for
- 19:26five and a half extra months after the Ark rested?
- 19:29Well, we cover all the reasons why on video.
- 19:31Number Six, the Hoven theory. But the Bible says it rested in
- 19:34the seventh month upon the mountains of Ararat.
- 19:36Mountains, plural. The Bible does not say the Ark
- 19:40landed on Mount Ararat. Read it carefully.
- 19:43It does not say that it says it landed in the mountains of
- 19:47Ararat. Actually, there are 4 theories
- 19:48about what happened to Noah's Ark.
- 19:51OK, one theory says they took it apart and used the lumber for
- 19:53buildings. Second theory says it rotted.
- 19:56The third theory says it's still on the mountain.
- 19:58And the 4th theory says it's in the valley.
- 20:00And the guys who think it's on the mountain go over there every
- 20:02couple years on a big expedition.
- 20:04They climb the mountain. They all come back and say, you
- 20:06know, we almost found it. I'm not sure how you can know.
- 20:11You almost found something. But anyway, that's what they say
- 20:14and maybe maybe it's there. I don't know.
- 20:16It doesn't matter to me at all. OK.
- 20:17But other folks think, hey guys, it's not even on that mountain.
- 20:20It's down in the valley 17 miles away and they think that is
- 20:24Noah's Ark right there. That boat shaped object, kind of
- 20:27a teardrop shape. In 1960, this was discovered by
- 20:30high altitude surveillance plane.
- 20:32In 1978 there was an earthquake and either it lifted up or the
- 20:36ground dropped down. I don't know the results the
- 20:38same. It is now sticking up out of the
- 20:39ground about 1820 feet. Ron Wyatt died in 99.
- 20:45He was a good friend of mine. He and many others have spent
- 20:47years studying this thing, but they think it's Noah's Ark.
- 20:50And like I said, honestly, I don't know and I don't care.
- 20:52I don't. It doesn't matter to me where it
- 20:54is, and some Christians and creationists get all upset with
- 20:56anybody that mentions there might be another theory besides
- 20:59theirs. Look, my my approach to any
- 21:01subject if is if there's more than one option, tell everybody
- 21:04all the options and say, here's the various theories on this,
- 21:07Here's why I believe this one. But go ahead and research
- 21:09yourself. I think you ought to look at all
- 21:11the options Richard Reeves took over for Ron.
- 21:15There he is in front of his model of Noah's ark that he
- 21:17built, but according to them, the ark has collapsed.
- 21:20Obviously a boat that old would, you know, cave in and fold out
- 21:23to the side. It's splayed and one of the
- 21:25arguments the sceptics use is, well, it's too wide to be Noah's
- 21:28Ark. Well, of course it's too wide.
- 21:29Boats all do that. They fall outwards.
- 21:31You can go to any old rotten boat someplace.
- 21:33You'll see the same effect. But radar scans show that there
- 21:35are deck Timbers, some kind of huge Timbers in there.
- 21:38Apparently it's some kind of big structure.
- 21:41They find iron rivets in there. The Ark was bolted together.
- 21:44They knew about iron back then. Not a problem.
- 21:46You can see some of the rivets at the Wyatt Museum South of
- 21:48Nashville, TN. It used a laminated wood, 3
- 21:52layers of wood glued together with a tar like substance, pitch
- 21:55made from tree SAP and apparently it's like basic
- 21:59plywood. OK, huge thick layers of wood
- 22:04and there's no grain in the wood.
- 22:05Interesting. It's almost like the trees
- 22:06didn't have growing seasons, the wood they were using.
- 22:10Anyway, The Wyatt Museum is a converted gas station just South
- 22:13of Nashville at exit 27 on the northwest corner.
- 22:16You can stop down there and see them.
- 22:17Missus Wyatt wrote a book called The Dooms the boat Shaped Object
- 22:20on Doomsday Mountain. With all the research she and
- 22:22her husband had done on that. Apparently the Ark landed close
- 22:25to Mount Ararat, got stuck in the mud, everybody got off and
- 22:30left and at some time later there was a mud flow or and or a
- 22:32lava flow that pushed the Ark down and broke the bottom off.
- 22:37What used to be the the keel full of ballast for weight to
- 22:40keep it upright was broken off. And it's way up near the
- 22:43mountain. And the Ark has apparently moved
- 22:44down several miles from where it used to be.
- 22:47It used to be way over here at the left at a little village
- 22:50called Kazan, which in Turkish means village of Eight.
- 22:55Village of eight. Now wait a minute.
- 22:57There was eight people on that boat.
- 22:59But apparently the Ark has drifted down from where it used
- 23:01to be. And that's another long story.
- 23:02But the government of Turkey has studied all this and they say,
- 23:04Yep, that's Noah's Ark. They even built a visitor
- 23:06center. Some folks have said, oh, it's
- 23:10not Noah's ark, it's a boat shaped object.
- 23:12It's just a it's just a flow stone.
- 23:14It's it's flow formation around a stationary object.
- 23:17When mud flows around something, it makes that teardrop shaped
- 23:20like an airplane wing. Yes, I understand.
- 23:22It does. You're right.
- 23:24But the pointed end of the teardrop is always downstream.
- 23:29The rounded end is upstream, like an airplane wing.
- 23:32This one's backwards. There are flow formations in
- 23:35that area, no question. But this is not one of them.
- 23:39One guy argued. It's just a Fort.
- 23:41Who would build a Fort under a hill?
- 23:45Duh. The guy still rocks down inside,
- 23:48you know? Anyway, some creationists say
- 23:51it's not Noah's ark, and they get mad at me for him
- 23:52mentioning, well, I'm sorry, I'm going to mention it until I
- 23:54start working for you and then I'll quit.
- 23:56OK, but the Bible says the ark will be 300 cubits long.
- 24:00Now cubit is elbow to fingertip. I'm 6 foot one.
- 24:03My cubit is 21 inches. The average standard Egyptian
- 24:07cubit was 20.65, just a hair shorter than mine.
- 24:11That boat shaped object is 515 feet long, which is 300 Egyptian
- 24:17cubits. So that doesn't prove it's the
- 24:19arc, but it is interesting. It is the right size.
- 24:21OK, it's about 2/3 the size of the Titanic, about two football
- 24:25fields long, pretty good sized boat.
- 24:28In that region. Near the village of Kazan they
- 24:30found 12 giant rocks that they weigh 9000 lbs.
- 24:36These rocks up here at Kazan, 9000 LB.
- 24:38And they have holes in the top. Apparently this rock was to be
- 24:42held over the side of the boat to be what's called an anchor
- 24:45stone or a drogue stone, and the hole in the top of the rock is
- 24:48curved. I have drilled a lot of holes in
- 24:50my life. I've done a lot of building
- 24:52construction. I don't know how you would drill
- 24:53a curved hole through a rock, but there they are.
- 24:57When the Sea of Galilee dried up quite a bit here 10 years ago,
- 25:00it exposed all kinds of beach that had never been exposed in
- 25:03centuries. And all around there they found
- 25:04hundreds of small rocks with holes in them.
- 25:06It's a common practice in stormy areas like that to put rocks
- 25:10around the side of the boat to keep the boat stabilized, give
- 25:13it some weight. If it gets windy, you drop them
- 25:15down into the water and you now have a sea anchor all the way
- 25:18around the boat. But anyway, there are a lot of
- 25:21folks who think these rocks were actually drogue stones or sea
- 25:23anchors for Noah's Ark. What this would do, this would
- 25:27make make the boat stable during stormy weather.
- 25:31It's almost like your anchor to the water if you can imagine
- 25:33that. And if it really gets windy, the
- 25:36rocks are going to drag behind you and now you're always
- 25:38perpendicular to the waves. You can't capsize 1 atheist
- 25:44wrote me a letter and he said hoven I heard your seminar about
- 25:47Noah's ark having big rocks hanging over the side.
- 25:50You are so stupid. Don't you know if he had rocks
- 25:52hanging all over the boat, it would slow him down?
- 26:03I wrote back. Where was he going?
- 26:08There is no place to go, OK? The whole world's underwater,
- 26:11OK? He's just trying to float.
- 26:13You see? No.
- 26:13Other instructions are real simple.
- 26:15Get in. Sit down.
- 26:16Float land. Get out.
- 26:18OK. You don't have to go anywhere.
- 26:21No sails. You don't have to steer the
- 26:23boat, OK? One atheist said.
- 26:24Well, a sailboat was built with six masts and it it leaked so
- 26:27bad because of the twisting from the sail.
- 26:28Well, Noah's Ark didn't have any sails, OK?
- 26:31It just was designed to float. And some people think it might
- 26:33have had a moonpool in the centre because a long ship has
- 26:36trouble going over the waves. It tends to lift up and the ends
- 26:39are exposed and it tends to flex or break in the middle.
- 26:42Well, if Noah's Ark had a moonpool, that would solve the
- 26:44problem. What it is, it's a hole in the
- 26:45centre. As the waves go up and down, the
- 26:47water goes up and down inside that hole.
- 26:49Of course you got a wall built up on the inside.
- 26:52It's called a moonpool. As the water goes up and down
- 26:55inside that moonpool, going over the waves, it acts like a giant
- 26:57piston, forcing fresh air in and out of the boat.
- 27:02Every time you hit a wave. You might actually pray for a
- 27:05good wave once in a while. Hey, Lord, we're about to feed
- 27:08the elephants. Would you please send a wave?
- 27:10Yeah. Anyway, what happened to the
- 27:12dinosaurs when Noah got off the ark?
- 27:15You know, the question of what happened to the dinosaurs has
- 27:17been used in schools to start a conversation about evolution for
- 27:20a long time. One of Satan's favorite tools to
- 27:23use is dinosaurs because kids love them.
- 27:28I spoke at a public school one time to 301st graders.
- 27:32Try that sometime. I drove a church bus for 17
- 27:36years and taught junior church for 17 years and there were 300
- 27:40first graders in this room. I'm speaking and I got my
- 27:42dinosaurs out and I said, boys and girls, I got a question for
- 27:45you. When did dinosaurs live?
- 27:50I mean instantly. All of them shouted out millions
- 27:53of years ago. I thought, now wait a minute.
- 27:57These kids are in first grade, OK?
- 27:58They can barely read. How do they believe that
- 28:01already? Where have the Christians been
- 28:06teaching the truth about creation?
- 28:09Why are we waiting till the kids get their mind polluted with
- 28:11evolution and then trying to win them back?
- 28:14Why don't we just not lose them to begin with?
- 28:17Why hasn't there been a Christian response to this
- 28:19dinosaur stuff? Where the what the Christians
- 28:23did in the 1800s is they compromised their Bible with the
- 28:28gap theory to accommodate the dinosaurs and then they let
- 28:30Satan have the dinosaurs. That's what happened exactly.
- 28:34But anyway, there are 16 theories of what happened to the
- 28:36dinosaurs. One theory says a asteroid
- 28:39struck the Yucatan Peninsula in, you know, Mexico and killed them
- 28:4265,000,000 years ago. A scientist here in Indiana said
- 28:46the dinosaurs killed themselves off with their own flatulence.
- 28:51They could not stand the heat. I'm not sure what to do about a
- 28:55theory like that, but here's the real reason they went extinct
- 28:58smoking anyway. What?
- 29:02What made the dinosaurs go extinct?
- 29:05Do you realize they're asking the wrong question?
- 29:08The question is not what made them go extinct.
- 29:10The question is, did they go extinct?
- 29:13See, the liberals are always real good at getting us to argue
- 29:15about the wrong subject. They're always asking me, should
- 29:19we have creation taught in public schools?
- 29:21I see that's a good question and I will be glad to discuss that.
- 29:24However, there's another question we should ask first.
- 29:26OK, the real question is, should we have public schools?
- 29:32Let's argue that one for a while first, OK?
- 29:34And if we're going to have them, then we'll discuss what should
- 29:37be taught in them and who decides what is taught in them.
- 29:41I mean, does Bill Clinton decide what's taught, or does Osama bin
- 29:43Laden decide what's taught? Or maybe you should decide.
- 29:45Maybe I should decide. See, the whole problem is some
- 29:49people have this idiot idea that children belong to the state.
- 29:53No, no, no. You see, children belong to God,
- 29:56and they are entrusted to parents.
- 29:58And the parents should decide what God wants them to be
- 30:01taught. The state does not ever have any
- 30:03children. It is sterile, OK?
- 30:06It can't have children, right? So they want to steal yours.
- 30:11That's another long, interesting story.
- 30:12But anyway, the 10th Amendment to the Constitution says the
- 30:16federal government only has certain very limited powers, and
- 30:19anything else is left to the states.
- 30:21The federal government has no business being involved in
- 30:23education or welfare or hurricane relief or anything
- 30:28else. No business at all.
- 30:30If you want to see why the schools went public, we get this
- 30:33many good articles, one by Samuel Blumenfeld That's
- 30:35incredible about why we have a public school system.
- 30:37It's all part of the plan for a new world order.
- 30:41Big part of the plan. Get our college class.
- 30:43CSE One O 2. I teach college classes on
- 30:46creation. Or we go into much more detail.
- 30:48You know, chase every rabbit and kick every dog and you can get
- 30:50that if you get time. But anyway, dinosaurs getting
- 30:52off the ark had a very difficult time.
- 30:54The climate had changed. Things were different.
- 30:58Remember before the flood? They lived to be 900.
- 31:01Read your Bible. After the flood they only lived
- 31:03to be 400 and then 200 and then 100.
- 31:08Something changed. Well for one thing, that canopy
- 31:10overhead was gone #2. The soil was now not loaded with
- 31:14minerals like it's supposed to be to have plants grow like
- 31:16crazy. And the atmospheric pressure was
- 31:18different. The canopy had collapsed, it was
- 31:20gone. I believe sunlight was now
- 31:21getting through radiation, etcetera.
- 31:24Much many more problems in the post flood environment.
- 31:27Dinosaurs had two problems #1 the climate change #2 it was
- 31:33probably worse. People haunted them, they killed
- 31:36them. Now they didn't call them
- 31:38dinosaur though. They called them dragon.
- 31:42See, the word dinosaur wasn't made-up till 1841.
- 31:45So for most of human history these creatures are called
- 31:47Dragons. Did you know dinosaurs?
- 31:50Not even in the dictionary. In 1891 for most of human
- 31:53history they were known as Dragons.
- 31:55Now, Dragons are mentioned in the Bible 34 times.
- 31:59People say, why aren't dinosaurs in the Bible?
- 32:00Last night I'm talking to this lady at the counter at the
- 32:02hotel. She said, well, dinosaurs aren't
- 32:04in the Bible. I said, that's correct.
- 32:05That word wasn't made-up till 1841.
- 32:08And if you got the right Bible, that was translated 1611.
- 32:10So of course you're not going to find that word in there, duh.
- 32:14But they called them Dragons. Dragons are listed in the
- 32:17dictionary In 1946, as now rare as the population of people
- 32:24began to grow after the flood, the population of Dragons began
- 32:28to go down because nobody wants to live next door to a dragon.
- 32:33Same thing happened in Cobb County, Georgia, where Atlanta
- 32:36is today. Do you realize how many grizzly
- 32:38bears there are roaming around the woods right now near
- 32:41Atlanta, GA 0? You know how many there were
- 32:47just 300 years ago? Hundreds.
- 32:51What happened to the grizzly bears in Cobb County, Georgia?
- 32:55Well, as people move in and civilize an area, the big
- 32:57ferocious animals are killed off or driven off.
- 33:00Happens everywhere. If it came on the Evening News
- 33:04tonight that there were 5 grizzly bears roaming around
- 33:06Cobb County, you know what would happen by 6:00 in the morning?
- 33:10They'd all be dead. Because every redneck in four
- 33:14states would be out there with a rifle trying to shoot one,
- 33:17right? And whoever could shoot the
- 33:19biggest one would be a hero. They'd have his picture on the
- 33:23front page. Hey, Bubba shot the grizzly bear
- 33:25and saved the village. Yeah, he did.
- 33:28Well, that's exactly what happened to the Dragons, man.
- 33:31If you could figure out a way to kill a dragon, they'd be telling
- 33:34stories about you around the campfire.
- 33:35From now on, people kill Dragons for meat because they were a
- 33:39menace. To prove you're a hero, to prove
- 33:41your superior competition for land or for medicinal purposes.
- 33:44Many ancient recipes call for dragon blood, dragon bones,
- 33:47dragon saliva. Why Gilgamesh is famous for
- 33:52slaying a dragon. A Chinese legend tells about a
- 33:54guy named Yu that surveyed the land of China.
- 33:57It says after the flood, he surveyed the land and divided it
- 34:00into sections. He built channels to drain the
- 34:03water off to the sea and make the land livable again.
- 34:06Many snakes and Dragons were driven from the marshlands.
- 34:09Yeah, that's just normal. If you want to build a city, you
- 34:11got to, you know, drive off the Dragons and then build your
- 34:13city. I mean, it was expected you got
- 34:15to drive the Dragons off. OK?
- 34:17Why would the Chinese calendar have 11 real animals?
- 34:21You know, the pig, the duck, the dog and a dragon.
- 34:26Why would they put a mythical animal in there?
- 34:29Could it be that at the time they come up with these 12
- 34:31symbols, there were 12 real animals?
- 34:35Here's one of the oldest pieces of pottery on planet Earth.
- 34:38It's a piece of slate from Egypt, first dynasty of United
- 34:41Egypt. It shows long neck Dragons.
- 34:44We make replicas of it. If you want to get one for a
- 34:45prize for your bus route, for something to give out to the kid
- 34:47who does whatever, you know you could go crazy over this thing.
- 34:50Half size replicas of the oldest pieces of Potter piece of
- 34:53pottery on earth. Why would they put long neck
- 34:56dinosaurs on pottery 3800 years ago?
- 35:03There's two long neck dinosaurs with a sheep in between their
- 35:05mouths. Here's a hippo test from the
- 35:0812th century BC showing an animal with a long neck and a
- 35:11long tail. There's a cylinder seal showing
- 35:14what appears to quite obviously be long necked dinosaurs.
- 35:19The Bible talks about a fiery flying serpent in Isaiah 14.
- 35:23Wait a minute, fiery flying serpent?
- 35:26Well, if you read the story of Herodotus, Herodotus says he
- 35:29went to a certain place in Arabia, almost exactly opposite
- 35:32Bhutto, to make inquiries concerning the winged serpents.
- 35:36On my arrival I saw the backbones and ribs of serpents
- 35:39in such numbers as it's impossible to describe.
- 35:42The winged serpent is shaped like the water snake.
- 35:45Its wings are not feathered, but resemble very closely those of
- 35:47the bat, the people, where the bones lie at the entrance of a
- 35:52narrow gorge between steep mountains.
- 35:54The story goes that with the spring the winged snakes come
- 35:57flying from Arabia towards Egypt, but are met in this gorge
- 36:00by the bird called ibises, who forbid their entrance and
- 36:03destroy them all. The book of Josephus talks about
- 36:07the fiery flying serpent that Moses came had to kill when he
- 36:11came to the land of Ethiopia and he ended up marrying the
- 36:14Princess of The Ethiopians and which is why his sister got mad
- 36:17at him later for marrying an Ethiopian.
- 36:19Not because she was black necessarily but because of how
- 36:22this all happened. You read the story in Josephus
- 36:24book. Anyway, in the Anglo-Saxon
- 36:26Chronicle it talks about in 793 AD about the fiery Dragons
- 36:31flying across the firmament. The Babylonian God Marduke has
- 36:36shown pictured on a fire breathing dragon.
- 36:40You say Brother Hovind. Now you don't believe in fire
- 36:42breathing Dragons do you? Yeah, I believe there were some.
- 36:46We cover all that in our videotape about Leviathan.
- 36:48But Job chapter 41 talks about Leviathan.
- 36:51It says out of his mouth go burning lamps and sparks a fire
- 36:53leap out. Out of his nostrils go a smoke.
- 36:58You know, I've seen deacons do that at Southern Baptist
- 37:00churches. OK, so that's no big deal.
- 37:01But his breath kindle of coals and a flame goeth out of his
- 37:06mouth. Now wait wait wait, was there
- 37:08really a fire breathing dragon? Well you better watch the
- 37:11Leviathan video about the fire breathing dragon.
- 37:13But if you get a Catholic Bible you'll find the book of Daniel
- 37:16has two extra chapters in it. It's part of the Apocrypha
- 37:19books. OK, Daniel 13 and 14, very
- 37:21interesting reading. Definitely not scripture.
- 37:24OK, but in Daniel 14 it says there was a great dragon in the
- 37:28place, and the Babylonians worshipped him.
- 37:30And the king said to Daniel, behold, thou couldst not say now
- 37:33that this is not a living God. Adore him therefore.
- 37:36And Daniel said, I adore the Lord my God, for he is the
- 37:39living God. But that is no living God.
- 37:43But give me leave. That's permission you military
- 37:45guys know about. Leave, OK?
- 37:46And I will kill this dragon without sword or club.
- 37:49And the king said, I give thee leave.
- 37:52Then Daniel took pitch and fat and hair and boiled them
- 37:55together and made lumps and put them into the Dragon's mouth.
- 37:57And the dragon burst asunder. What a strange story.
- 38:01Let me give you the hoven translation.
- 38:04OK? The Bible tells us that Daniel
- 38:06was a man who understood science.
- 38:09Those are the kind that Nebuchadnezzar took away that
- 38:10time. OK?
- 38:12And Daniel would have known full well.
- 38:13That pitch is made from tree SAP, and it's very sticky.
- 38:16Fat is salty tasting. And almost all animals like
- 38:19things that are salty tasting and hare won't digest.
- 38:23So he made little lumps of pitch fat, and hare tossed him in the
- 38:26dragon. Loved them, swallowed them,
- 38:27couldn't digest them. And then they plugged up his
- 38:30intestinal track. And these were the days before
- 38:33roto-rooter. And so he burst asunder.
- 38:36You figure it out, OK? Anyway, Saddam Insane.
- 38:40Hussein has quite an ego problem.
- 38:41He thinks he is Nebuchadnezzar Reincarnated.
- 38:46George Bush always called him Saddam Hussein.
- 38:49I wondered why does he call him Saddam?
- 38:50His name is Saddam. Well, Saddam means Prince.
- 38:54Saddam means horses. Rear end.
- 38:58I called him Saddam Hussein. Anyway, Saddam issued currency
- 39:04with his picture in front of Nebuchadnezzar.
- 39:08Saddam spent a fortune rebuilding the ancient city of
- 39:10Babylon. But you know, ancient Babylon
- 39:12was discovered buried in the dry sand over there.
- 39:14The bricks were just nearly perfectly preserved by the dry
- 39:18sand. So they excavated ancient
- 39:20Babylon and rebuilt it. Babylon was totally rebuilt in
- 39:24the last 20-30 years. I believe Saddam put a brick
- 39:27about every 10 feet around the wall.
- 39:29That says I am Saddam Hussein. I have rebuilt Babylon the
- 39:32Great, I am a grandson of Nebuchadnezzar.
- 39:35But on that wall they found carvings of lions and carvings
- 39:39of Dragons. Now I can understand why they'd
- 39:42put a lion on there. I mean, we know about lions, but
- 39:44why would they put carvings of Dragons on a brick wall 2600
- 39:48years ago? Maybe because they knew about
- 39:52Dragons. They're still there.
- 39:55You can go see them. A friend of mine was there as
- 39:56soldiers. Yep, they're still here.
- 39:58Dragons still on the wall from 2600 years ago.
- 40:02Ishtar Gate is covered in them. Lions and Dragons now.
- 40:08We made a model of it for dinosaur Adventureland.
- 40:10If you want to come to Pensacola, that's a little
- 40:12closer than Iraq for most of you.
- 40:13But Alexander the Great said his soldiers were scared by Dragons
- 40:16when they conquered part of India in 300 BC.
- 40:19This Roman mosaic shows 2 long necked Dragons fighting.
- 40:24Or kissing. Now that would be necking.
- 40:27Wow. Anyway, how did how did the
- 40:31Romans know about Dragons? IN200AD Saint George is famous
- 40:36for slaying a dragon. In 275 AD Beowulf slew 2 Dragons
- 40:40and the third one killed him. You should try to read the
- 40:43Beowulf story in Old English. Good luck.
- 40:47That's English. 1500 years ago. That was English.
- 40:52I can only read one word on the page.
- 40:54It says duh. But anyway, when they translate
- 40:58the story to modern English, the story tells us Beowulf killed
- 41:00Grendel the dragon by pulling off one of its arms and the
- 41:03creature bled to death pulled off his arm.
- 41:08Well they found a Babylonian cylinder seal showing a guy
- 41:10pulling the arm off a dragon. Interesting.
- 41:15Get the book after the flood if you want a whole lot more on
- 41:18Dragons living with man. But there's a city in France is
- 41:20famous because a dragon came up out of the water and a guy
- 41:24killed it and cut the head off and stuck it over the corner of
- 41:27the building. The head of the dragon was
- 41:29mounted on his building. They called it the gargoyle.
- 41:32How many Have you ever heard of the gargoyle?
- 41:35They still do that today. You can buy these ugly little
- 41:37critters. You put them on your building or
- 41:38whatever over your door. Well, the word gargoyle means
- 41:41throat. We get our word gargle, gurgle,
- 41:43regurgitate, gorge and glutton from that word has to do with
- 41:47the throat. So next time you gargle, you can
- 41:49think about slaying a dragon. You see where the Hoeven I am
- 41:53slaying a dragon when I gargle. OK, anyway, an Irish rider said
- 41:56they killed a dragon with iron nails on its tail.
- 42:00Well, Stegosaurus certainly had big spikes on his tail, that's
- 42:03for sure. So did several other animals.
- 42:05But here's a Viking woodcut showing a dragon swallowing a
- 42:08guy. This is from the 11th century,
- 42:11thousand years ago. OK, the Vikings put dragon heads
- 42:14on their ships 1000 years ago. Why would they do that?
- 42:19Well, they knew about the great dragon of the sea.
- 42:20They called it the Kraken. Again, Bill Cooper's got a lot
- 42:25on that in his book. But the famous Icelandic hero
- 42:28Siegfried slew the dragon Fafner as a castle.
- 42:33Bricks were found in a castle from the 12th century showing
- 42:35Dragons. Here's a 12th century castle in
- 42:38Germany with Dragons on it. Why would they put Dragons on
- 42:42their castles? Marco Polo lived in China for 17
- 42:45years. When he came back, he said the
- 42:46emperor is raising Dragons to pull Chariots in his parades.
- 42:51Why would he say that? Oh, probably because the emperor
- 42:54was raising Dragons to pull Chariots in his parades.
- 42:57That's my theory. Yeah.
- 42:59OK. In 1611 they appointed the post
- 43:01of royal dragon feeder. Why do you need a royal dragon
- 43:05feeder? Let me guess.
- 43:08To feed the dragon. Yeah, right.
- 43:10OK, There's a 13th century castle with Dragons on it.
- 43:13There's a grey from the 15th century showing and carved in
- 43:16brass 2 long neck dinosaurs. 16th century castle has Dragons
- 43:21on it. We've got 7 coins in our museum
- 43:24on loan. They're silver dollars from
- 43:251500s to 16 hundreds. Real silver dollars.
- 43:29All of them show somebody slaying a dragon.
- 43:32It was common 400 years ago. Everybody knew about slaying
- 43:34Dragons. Of course you got to slay the
- 43:36dragon, you know, That's just standard procedure.
- 43:39Save the dragon, rescue the Princess or whatever.
- 43:40I don't know. But here's a Russian medallion
- 43:43showing a guy killing a dragon. Bulgarian postage stamp has
- 43:46somebody killing a dragon. The Crest of Lithuania shows
- 43:48somebody killing a dragon. A city in France was renamed
- 43:52Nerluk to honor the man who slew the dragon.
- 43:56Indians carved dinosaurs on the walls of the Grand Canyon.
- 44:00Why would they put dinosaurs on the walls of Grand Canyon?
- 44:03Maybe because they haunted dinosaurs around there.
- 44:07In 1925 some guys took a raft trip down one of the canyons out
- 44:10West and they wrote a report. They saw one of these dinosaurs
- 44:14and they said the fact that some prehistoric man, they made a
- 44:17pictograph of a dinosaur in the walls of this Canyon upsets
- 44:19completely all of our theories. Oh, they upset his theories?
- 44:24Oh, no, he said. About a year ago, a photograph
- 44:28of a dinosaur was shown to a scientist of national repute who
- 44:31was then specializing in dinosaurs.
- 44:33He said it's not a dinosaur. It's impossible because we know
- 44:36dinosaurs were extinct 12 million years before man
- 44:39appeared on Earth. Oh, hold on just a minute.
- 44:42OK, 1st place. It's not possible for you to
- 44:45know what happened 12 million years ago.
- 44:46OK, so let's just get that straight first up.
- 44:49OK. Secondly, notice he said 12
- 44:51million. Now today the kids are taught
- 44:54dinosaurs died 65,000,000 years ago, aren't they?
- 44:5865,000,000 years ago. It's interesting to see the
- 45:01inflation of the age of the earth.
- 45:03See in 1770 they said the earth was 70,000 years old.
- 45:07By 19/02, it was 2 billion years old.
- 45:11In 1969, it was 3 1/2 billion years old.
- 45:14Today, it's 4.6. Did you know the Earth is
- 45:17getting older at the rate of 21,000,000 years per year?
- 45:22That's 40 years per minute. OK, it's aging rapidly, folks.
- 45:25Anyway, if you go to Blanding, Utah, you'll see carvings of
- 45:28dinosaurs on the Cliff there. Apparently they knew about
- 45:30dinosaurs in Utah. The Indians knew about them.
- 45:33They killed them. Apparently this is a cave
- 45:36painting in Australia showing a guy running away from what
- 45:39appears to be a dinosaur. I can't pronounce the name of
- 45:42this place in Canada. Mishap has something rather
- 45:44here, but it looks like these Indians have painted something
- 45:46on the Cliff there that appears to be like a dinosaur with a
- 45:50dermal frill ridged on its back. This is a painting from
- 45:53Australia. These guys are all dancing
- 45:55around what quite obviously looks like a dinosaur.
- 45:58Apparently they're upset because of their friend.
- 46:00OK, there's the friend inside and I'll give him back.
- 46:03Please. Right now anyway, this guy says
- 46:06nobody's ever seen a dinosaur. Well, why did they put them on
- 46:09their cave paintings? Why did they put them on ancient
- 46:11pottery? Why did why do we see so many
- 46:12legends of Dragons if nobody's ever seen one Down in Peru,
- 46:17they've got the driest desert in the world.
- 46:18It's only rained twice in 400 years is my understanding.
- 46:22When the Spanish came across there in 15 hundreds, they found
- 46:24white lines on the desert. They were obviously man made.
- 46:28Somebody piled up the rocks. There's a pile of white rocks
- 46:30that goes sometimes for miles, straight as an arrow.
- 46:35These are today are called the Nazca Lines.
- 46:37How many have you ever heard of the Nazca images?
- 46:39They got all these images down there and down in Peru.
- 46:41You can study that if you'd like, but strange.
- 46:43These images are interesting, but one of them shows a spider
- 46:46which has no eyes and one leg is longer than the rest.
- 46:50And for centuries everybody thought, well, these were poor,
- 46:53ignorant, stupid people, you know, they forgot to put the
- 46:55eyes on and they made the one leg longer.
- 46:57About an accident. Recently there was a spider
- 47:00discovered in the Amazon jungle 1000 miles away.
- 47:04It only lives in caves. It is extremely rare, supposed
- 47:06to be one of the rarest spiders on earth.
- 47:08It's an eighth of an inch long little tiny spider, lives 1000
- 47:12miles away in the dark in the caves.
- 47:15The spider has no eyes and during mating season that one
- 47:19particular leg grows longer and exchanges DNA off the tip of
- 47:23that leg for 15 seconds. How did they know that in Peru,
- 47:281000 miles away? Maybe they weren't so stupid
- 47:31after all. Anyway, in 1535 the Spanish
- 47:36conquistadors came through that area and they found stones with
- 47:38strange animals on them. They sent some back to the king
- 47:41of Spain and said, what on earth are these animals carved on
- 47:44these rocks? The king said, I have no clue.
- 47:48Today they're called the ICCA burial stones from Icca, Peru.
- 47:51Dennis Swift is probably the world's expert on those.
- 47:53He's one of my good friends from Portland, OR.
- 47:55He did a great session at our boot camp 95.
- 47:58I mean in 2005 our creation boot camp we have in Pensacola, FL
- 48:02and we've got his DV DS about him speaking on the ICCA stones.
- 48:04It's incredible. You can still get those on our
- 48:06website, but these stones show dinosaurs on them.
- 48:09The Nazca burial stones from about the time of Christ plus or
- 48:14minus a few 100 years. Some of them show brain surgery.
- 48:17They find brain surgery instrument, hardened copper
- 48:20tempered copper instruments for cutting into people's heads.
- 48:23Apparently they some of them show heart surgery, limb
- 48:27reattachment, steam engine, what I'm showed what looks like a
- 48:30steam engine. Strange things are found on
- 48:32these echo stones in Peru, but quite a few of them over 500 I
- 48:36believe show dinosaurs. Why would they have dinosaurs
- 48:39and humans on the same stones? Well, because people lived with
- 48:44dinosaurs anyway. There's plenty on that.
- 48:48There's one from our museum shows a dinosaur holding a guy
- 48:51by the head. This one we've got shows what
- 48:54appears to be a guy cutting the head off the dragon because the
- 48:57dragon killed his friend. You can see the friend's body is
- 49:00inside, but his head's missing, so his buddy's just doing what
- 49:03the Bible says, You know, vengeance is fine saith the Lord
- 49:05or something like that, but this guy's jabbing one through the
- 49:09throat with a spear. This one's hard to see, but he's
- 49:12shoving the spear down the Dragon's throat.
- 49:16This one, the Dragon's got the guy by the arm and apparently
- 49:18his spirit is leaving. He's flying off into heaven or
- 49:20wherever they go when they die in their culture.
- 49:22You know, this guy's got the knife stuck in the Dragon's head
- 49:26and the Dragon's biting the guy. We've got eight of these stones
- 49:30in Pensacola, FL. It's the largest collection in
- 49:32America, I believe, at $1500 each, you know, And not too many
- 49:35people have these things, but some of them show circles on the
- 49:38side. Now that's kind of interesting.
- 49:39Why would they put circles on the side of the dinosaurs?
- 49:43Well, nobody ever found dinosaur skin until about 20 years ago
- 49:48when fossilized dinosaur skin was found.
- 49:52It's very interesting. The dinosaur skin has circle
- 49:54patterns on it. They had to see a live 1 to know
- 49:58to put that on the stones because you couldn't tell that
- 50:01from the bones. We got some dinosaur skin in our
- 50:05museum in Pensacola recently. They just found unfossilized
- 50:10soft dinosaur tissue, soft dinosaur tissue.
- 50:15So now the brilliant scientists are trying to figure out how
- 50:18could tissue stay soft for 70 million years?
- 50:22The thought will never cross their brain to question that
- 50:24maybe it's not 70 million years old.
- 50:26I mean, that thought will never enter their head.
- 50:28OK, this guy's cutting the head off a dragon.
- 50:32There's a guy riding one. We got a ton of information on
- 50:35dinosaurs living with man. Sometimes they're in friendly
- 50:38gestures, like this one's petting him.
- 50:39He's got his head laying on his shoulder.
- 50:40OK, pottery was found with dinosaurs on it.
- 50:43A mummy was found in a tomb wrapped in a blanket.
- 50:45And all around the blanket were dinosaurs.
- 50:49Why would they put dinosaurs on their blankets?
- 50:51Why would they put them on their pottery?
- 50:53Why would they carve them on Cliff walls?
- 50:54Why would they put them on their waistbands?
- 50:58In Accumbaro, Mexico, 56,000 ceramic figurines of dinosaurs
- 51:02were found. They knew about them in central
- 51:05Mexico. They have always lived with man.
- 51:08They did not live millions of years ago.
- 51:10But everybody today is saying dinosaurs lived millions of
- 51:13years ago. Nobody's ever seen one.
- 51:16Yeah, I think they have. OK, An Italian peasant killed a
- 51:19dragon that was bothering his cows.
- 51:21They had it stuffed and mounted for a museum display in 1572.
- 51:26By the way, you know why so many Italians are named Tony?
- 51:30Years ago they were shipping them to America and they stamped
- 51:31on their forehead to New York. Just a little bit of trivia
- 51:36there, but the Sutton artifact appears to show what it looks
- 51:38like. A pterodactyl with its wings
- 51:40folded up. This lady sent me this picture
- 51:43of the dragon found in Utah, said Brother Hogan.
- 51:45Looks like a dinosaur to me carved on the Cliff up here.
- 51:48Roman artifacts were found in Tucson, AZ, by the way.
- 51:51The Romans came across the ocean way before Columbus did.
- 51:54Columbus was not the first white man across the ocean.
- 51:57There was trade back and forth for centuries until the, you
- 51:59know, Catholic Church kind of had the Dark Ages come in and
- 52:02shut down knowledge and information.
- 52:04But Brenda the Navigator came across in 500 AD.
- 52:07Roman coins or Hebrew coins were found in Ohio in a burial mound.
- 52:11There was trade back and forth at the time of Christ across the
- 52:14ocean. But in a Los Lunas Decalogue
- 52:18stone here found in New Mexico, there's an 80 ton stone showing
- 52:21the 10 commandments. In Byzantine, which was only
- 52:25used about 500 AD is my understanding.
- 52:28Somebody came across to try to evangelize.
- 52:29America made it as far as New Mexico 1500 years ago, but one
- 52:34of these Roman swords shows what quite obviously appears to be a
- 52:37dinosaur on it. How on earth could they get
- 52:41dinosaurs on their stone on their swords at the time?
- 52:45The Roman Empire. During the age of sailing ships,
- 52:47there are thousands of legends of people sighting sea monsters.
- 52:51Well, if you're in a sailboat, it's kind of quiet going through
- 52:54the water. OK?
- 52:54With a day with a diesel engine, they can hear you coming 50
- 52:57miles away underwater. Of course you're not going to
- 52:59see one, all right? But there are legends all over
- 53:02of Dragons living with man. I think we've really been lied
- 53:07to. We can spend a long time on
- 53:08dragon legends. I read prolifically on that
- 53:11topic about dragon sightings down to history.
- 53:13Just get our video #3 if you want more on dragon legends.
- 53:16But you know, they're actually stories of giant octopus living
- 53:18in the ocean. I mean, like, really, really,
- 53:21really big octopus. One octopus washed up on the
- 53:24beach in Florida. It was 200 feet across and
- 53:27weighed 5 tons. That's a big octopus.
- 53:32A whale was killed near Seattle. Inside the whale's stomach was
- 53:34one arm to an octopus that was 150 feet long.
- 53:38Whales love to eat octopus, and if a whale eats too much
- 53:42octopus, he'll get sick and puke it back up.
- 53:45And if you ever see a piece of puked up octopus floating around
- 53:47in the ocean, be sure to grab it.
- 53:49It's worth a fortune. Does anybody know what they make
- 53:52out of Puked Up Octopus perfume? That is correct.
- 53:59That explains a few things, doesn't it, fellas?
- 54:02Hey dear, you smell like a puked up octopus.
- 54:06Yeah, and you can sleep on the couch for a month too.
- 54:09There are giant squids found out there in the ocean.
- 54:11I mean really big squids. We could spend a long time about
- 54:14that one. A giant squid washed up on the
- 54:15beach in New Zealand. They said it was a baby, full
- 54:19grown. It would have been 150 feet
- 54:20long. People saying oh wait, wait,
- 54:23wait, hoeven if there are dinosaurs mentioned all through
- 54:25history. Are dinosaurs mentioned in the
- 54:27Bible? Oh, yeah, Dinosaurs in the
- 54:31Bible. Yeah, we're going to cover that
- 54:34in the next session. Dinosaurs not only mentioned in
- 54:37the Bible, some dinosaurs might still be alive.
- 54:40We'll cover that in a minute. OK, let's take up where we left
- 54:47off about dinosaurs in the Bible.
- 54:51People say, come on now, dinosaurs aren't in the Bible.
- 54:53Well, of course the word's not in there.
- 54:55They didn't make up the word till 1841.
- 54:57The word computer's not in there either.
- 54:58But there really are computers. OK, but yes, dinosaurs are
- 55:02mentioned in the Bible, so I didn't see him in there.
- 55:06Well, you need to read carefully.
- 55:08OK, If you get the book of Job. The book of Job has 42 chapters,
- 55:13just about dead center in the Bible.
- 55:14Just before Psalms, you'll find a very fascinating book in Job
- 55:17chapter one. It says Job was a perfect man.
- 55:20He feared God and hated evil. By the way, that's good advice,
- 55:24OK? And Job had seven sons and three
- 55:27daughters. And Job had thousands of sheep
- 55:29and camels and oxen and asses. The guy was rich.
- 55:33Really rich. Job was probably written after
- 55:37the flood, but before the law was given.
- 55:40In the days of Moses, before the flood, they lived to be 900.
- 55:43After the flood, they lived to be 400.
- 55:45See, Job lived long enough to have 10 kids, all grown out of
- 55:48the house. They all died.
- 55:49He had 10 more kids and saw his great, great grandchildren from
- 55:53his second family. So you got to be living a long
- 55:56time to accomplish those things. OK, so those are the reasons why
- 55:59most people think the book of Job was written after the flood,
- 56:01during the time when they were still living to be, you know,
- 56:03400. Anyway, one day the messenger
- 56:06came to Job and said Job, I got some bad news.
- 56:08The oxen and asses were stolen and your servants got killed and
- 56:13the sheep got burned up. Oh, and by the way, Job, the
- 56:16camels got stolen too. Stock.
- 56:18Market crash. Get it?
- 56:21Stock. Never mind another.
- 56:26Another messenger came and said Job your your kids all died.
- 56:29All ten of your kids are dead. Job's having a bad day.
- 56:34And then Job said the Lord gave. The Lord hath taken away.
- 56:37Blessed be the name of the Lord. Man, what kind of guy is this
- 56:40anyway? Hey, do you do that when bad
- 56:42things happen to you? Huh.
- 56:45Then Satan gave him boils from the top of his head to the
- 56:47bottom of his feet and a boil is like like the world's worst zit.
- 56:51And Job was covered in them and his wife turned against him.
- 56:57You know, man can handle just about any tragedy in life, but
- 56:59that's the toughest one right there.
- 57:02There's a verse you probably never heard preached on ever.
- 57:05Ephesians chapter 5 talks about, you know, husbands love your
- 57:08wives and wives Submit yourself to your husband.
- 57:09You've probably heard that part preached on.
- 57:11I bet you never heard this part. Let the wife see that she
- 57:13reverence her husband. Treat him like a God.
- 57:18Offer him burnt sacrifices three times a day.
- 57:20OK? Amen.
- 57:29Chapter 2, Verse 10. And Job said, you speak like one
- 57:32of the foolish women. Can't we receive good at the
- 57:34hand of God and not evil? And then Job's four friends came
- 57:38to visit him. One of those guys was the
- 57:40shortest man mentioned in the Bible, Bildad the shoe height.
- 57:45That's pretty short. OK?
- 57:46But these four guys came and they talked to Job for 35
- 57:50chapters. Most of the book of Job is these
- 57:53guys explaining to Job why everything went wrong.
- 57:57They had to be Baptist. The way I got it figured, they
- 58:00said Job, you must have sinned. I mean, Eliphaz said whoever
- 58:03perished being innocent, Job, the reason bad things are
- 58:05happening to you is because you sinned.
- 58:08Now folks, that is the wisdom of the world.
- 58:11OK, that is not true. See, if something bad happens to
- 58:15somebody, you don't know why it happened.
- 58:17You should love them, pray for them, encourage them, and shut
- 58:21up. Don't go to the hospital when
- 58:25they get their gallstones out and say, hey brother, these
- 58:27aren't gallstones, these are ties and offerings.
- 58:30God's getting them out of you one way or another.
- 58:33Don't do that, OK? Let God take care of why
- 58:37everything went wrong. He can handle them just fine.
- 58:39All right, so Job is sitting there scraping the puss out of
- 58:42the boils by the graves of his 10 dead kids, thinking, God,
- 58:46would you please answer me? Why did this happen to me?
- 58:51Folks, you don't have to live on this planet very long before
- 58:54you're going to be asking that question.
- 58:57God, why did you do this to me? Now, I don't want to drag
- 59:00skeletons out of anybody's closets, OK?
- 59:03But maybe you've had tragedy in your life.
- 59:06I know a little bit of what I'm talking about.
- 59:08I've got three kids here and three in heaven already.
- 59:10OK, yes, tragedy comes to good people trying to do right.
- 59:14It happens, all right. But if something bad happens,
- 59:17what's your response? Job said.
- 59:19I wish the Lord would answer me. See, Job didn't know about
- 59:21Romans 828. God said we know all things work
- 59:25together for good to them that are the love God to them that
- 59:28are the called according to his purpose.
- 59:30Now, this verse does not say everything that happens is good.
- 59:33It doesn't say that. It says it'll work together for
- 59:36good. I'll show you.
- 59:38Has anybody ever been hungry? Ever been hungry before?
- 59:42Suppose you come to my house, You knock on the door, say hey,
- 59:44open. I'm hungry.
- 59:45I'll say. Come on in, man.
- 59:47I'm going to give you a cup of flour.
- 59:50That don't sound too good. I got it.
- 59:52How about a spoonful of salt? Now that'll fill you up.
- 59:56Ain't going to help. I got it.
- 59:59How about a spoonful of baking soda?
- 1:00:00Now that will wake you up in the morning.
- 1:00:07And they probably get kind of dry by now.
- 1:00:08So let's pour down a half a cup of Crisco and chase it down with
- 1:00:13a cup of buttermilk. You say, Brother Hovind.
- 1:00:16That would taste terrible. How about if we mix them all
- 1:00:19together and make biscuits? Did you know the individual
- 1:00:25ingredients for biscuits taste lousy, but they work together
- 1:00:29for biscuits. And do you know everything that
- 1:00:32happens to you? Might not be good, but it'll
- 1:00:34work together for good. If you love God and you're
- 1:00:36called according to his purpose, see the Christian life is so
- 1:00:39simple. Keep your heart right with God.
- 1:00:44That's it. That'll be tough to do because
- 1:00:46the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.
- 1:00:51But Job is sitting there scraping the puss out of the
- 1:00:52boil, saying, God, would you please answer me?
- 1:00:56And in chapter 38, the Lord answered Job out of a whirlwind.
- 1:01:02You know, if a tornado starts talking to me, I'm going to pay
- 1:01:04attention. And the Lord said, who is this?
- 1:01:08That darken is counsel by words without knowledge?
- 1:01:11Hey, Job, your four friends did not know what they were talking
- 1:01:14about. And by the way, be very careful
- 1:01:16about getting any Bible doctrine from the book of Job.
- 1:01:18OK, it's true that the guy said it, but what they said was not
- 1:01:22true. And cults are always good at
- 1:01:24picking a verse out here. You better read.
- 1:01:26You better read the whole chapter.
- 1:01:27OK, I believe the Bible is the word of God.
- 1:01:29But the Bible contains some lies.
- 1:01:32It accurately records the lies of men.
- 1:01:36It's true that they said it, but what they said was not true.
- 1:01:39OK, that's the case of these four guys.
- 1:01:40Anyway, God said, ger it up. Now thy loins like a man.
- 1:01:43For I will demand of thee and answer thou me, Where was thou
- 1:01:46when I laid the foundations of the earth?
- 1:01:49I read that 36 years ago as a brand new Christian, and I
- 1:01:52thought, what a dumb question. God, why would you ask Job where
- 1:01:57he was when you laid the foundations of the earth?
- 1:02:01I said God, He wasn't there. You know that, and he knows
- 1:02:04that. So why are you asking such a
- 1:02:06question? How many of you were here when
- 1:02:08God built the earth? Was anybody here when God made
- 1:02:10the earth? Only a couple of Mormons.
- 1:02:13OK, yeah. You're in your second existence.
- 1:02:16I understand. OK.
- 1:02:18No, you were not here when God built the earth.
- 1:02:20So, kids, this is going to be complicated.
- 1:02:21So listen carefully, OK? Since you were not here when God
- 1:02:24made the earth, that means that God is older than you are.
- 1:02:30How many can figure this out with no help at all?
- 1:02:33OK, Did it ever occur to you that God is also smarter than
- 1:02:37you are? Did it ever occur to you that
- 1:02:41God is stronger than you are? Did it ever occur to you that
- 1:02:45God is richer than you are? You say, Brother Hovind,
- 1:02:49Everybody's richer than I are. OK, well, God certainly is.
- 1:02:55Hey, try this one. I've said this one 1000 times,
- 1:02:57and I've never understood it once, but I say it a lot, and I
- 1:03:00think about it till my brain hurts.
- 1:03:02Did it ever occur to you that nothing ever occurred to God?
- 1:03:09He's already thought of everything.
- 1:03:11He even knows everything you've ever thought about.
- 1:03:14Bible says he understands the imaginations of the thoughts.
- 1:03:17That's a fascinating verse. He not only knows your thoughts,
- 1:03:20he knows the imaginations of the thoughts you see.
- 1:03:23You can not only think about things, you can actually think
- 1:03:25about what you are thinking about.
- 1:03:28Think about that. The brain is amazing.
- 1:03:32The Bible says God knows the thoughts of man and by the way
- 1:03:35it says in Luke he Jesus knowing their thoughts.
- 1:03:39That's one of many verses that proves Jesus is God Almighty in
- 1:03:42the flesh. God knows your thoughts and he
- 1:03:45loves you anyway. Wow.
- 1:03:48Praise God for his mercy. Right Job 38.
- 1:03:52Four. God said, Declare if thou hast
- 1:03:53understanding who hath laid the measures thereof.
- 1:03:56If thou knowest question mark, Job doesn't answer.
- 1:04:00Job's not answering any of God's questions.
- 1:04:03God said, Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea?
- 1:04:07Did you know scientists didn't even know there were springs in
- 1:04:09the sea till 1977? Just discovered Science is very
- 1:04:14slowly catching up with a few parts of the Bible.
- 1:04:18God said where is the way where light dwelleth.
- 1:04:20Now that is fascinating. I taught physics.
- 1:04:23Did you know light doesn't stay in a place, It's in a way, it's
- 1:04:26always moving. But then it says As for
- 1:04:29darkness, where is the place thereof?
- 1:04:31You know the speed of light 186,282.4 miles per second.
- 1:04:35You know what the speed of dark is 0 Darkness cannot move.
- 1:04:43Now think about it. We are the children of light.
- 1:04:46We are supposed to be on the move.
- 1:04:47You know, get something done for God, right?
- 1:04:51People say, well, it's getting dark.
- 1:04:52The world's so bad. Well, then turn on your light.
- 1:04:55Duh. That's the reason it's dark is
- 1:04:59because of you. You're the light to turn it on.
- 1:05:02All right. Bible says the gates of hell
- 1:05:04shall not prevail against. Hey, gates don't attack you.
- 1:05:07You attack them. Yeah.
- 1:05:10Let's go, man. Do something for God.
- 1:05:11Anyway, verse 24. By what way is the light parted
- 1:05:15which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
- 1:05:17Now wait, wait, wait. Is God telling Job that the
- 1:05:20light causes the wind? He sure is.
- 1:05:26And you can ask any weatherman. That's exactly correct.
- 1:05:28The sunlight causes the wind patterns, the ground heats up,
- 1:05:32expands the air. We have wind on earth because of
- 1:05:35the light, just like God said 4000 years ago.
- 1:05:39God said, Canst thou send lightnings?
- 1:05:42Oh, it's a good thing I can't. How many of you can think of
- 1:05:46somebody that's lucky to be alive because you cannot send
- 1:05:49the Lightnings? I can think of several.
- 1:05:51Yes, I can. God said, canst thou send
- 1:05:54lightnings that they may go and say unto thee, here we are now,
- 1:05:58Wait, wait, wait. Is God telling Job that
- 1:06:01electricity can be used to send a message like radio, cell
- 1:06:06phone, microwave, TV. Electricity sends a message two
- 1:06:11different ways, through the electricity, through the wire,
- 1:06:13and also through the electromagnetic force, the radio
- 1:06:15waves coming off of it. God told Job that 4000 years
- 1:06:19ago, Marconi and them guys had discovered it.
- 1:06:20In the last few 100 years, God asked Job 84 questions.
- 1:06:26Job never answered one. These are the kind of questions
- 1:06:29that don't need an answer. The question was designed to
- 1:06:34change the person's attitude. These are the same kind of
- 1:06:38questions you dads have to ask your kids.
- 1:06:40They've got three kids, one of each.
- 1:06:42I know what I'm talking about. Kids get to a certain age and
- 1:06:44they get kind of cocky and they think, you know, they should
- 1:06:46make the rules around the house. The kid comes in one day and
- 1:06:50says, hey, Dad, listen, I believe I should be allowed to
- 1:06:53stay out till 4:00 in the morning with my friends.
- 1:06:56After all, I'm 10 now and Dad says, hold on just a minute,
- 1:07:01kid. You'd like to know why you can't
- 1:07:03stay out till 4:00 in the morning?
- 1:07:05Well, son, let me ask you a couple questions.
- 1:07:07Who pays the electric bill around this house?
- 1:07:10Who's paying for the house? Who paid for them clothes you're
- 1:07:12wearing, son? Who paid for that bed you slept
- 1:07:14on last night? Who pays for the food you eat
- 1:07:17and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat?
- 1:07:20Who paid for that hot water and soap you took a shower with
- 1:07:24about a month ago? Let's just get it straight, son.
- 1:07:27The Bible is very clear. He who payeth the bills maketh
- 1:07:31the rules. Second Opinions Chapter 4.
- 1:07:35You see, son, Me, dad, you kid. And if you're going to sleep
- 1:07:41under my roof and eat my food, you're going to do it my way.
- 1:07:45And if you want to do it your way, well then go get your own
- 1:07:47roof to sleep under and do it your way.
- 1:07:50See, that's the golden rule, son.
- 1:07:52He that hath the gold maketh the rules.
- 1:07:56Who do you think you are, a kid? Where were you when we bought
- 1:07:58this property and cleared this land?
- 1:08:00And drove off the grizzly bears and marched uphill to school, 40
- 1:08:02miles in the snow, barefoot both ways.
- 1:08:08How many got the same speech when you were going up, You
- 1:08:10know? OK, good, good.
- 1:08:11Let's get it straight. Son.
- 1:08:12Me, Dad, You, kid. I think that's what God's doing
- 1:08:18to Job. God asked Job 84 questions.
- 1:08:21Job never answered one. But Job got an attitude
- 1:08:24adjustment. See, Job had the same problem
- 1:08:27that most of us have. He did not have a good
- 1:08:30appreciation for who God was. Come to chapter 40, God said,
- 1:08:35behold, now, Behemoth. What on earth is a behemoth?
- 1:08:42Well, whatever it was, Job could behold it, because God never
- 1:08:46tells you to do something you can't do.
- 1:08:48See, God would not say Behold now Behemoth, if he could not
- 1:08:51Behold now Behemoth. That's deep theology.
- 1:08:54I know, OK, but think it through.
- 1:08:55All right, now some reference Bible say Behemoth is probably
- 1:08:58the elephant hippopotamus. Oh, that is ludicrous.
- 1:09:02I believe Behemoth is the long necked dinosaur.
- 1:09:05Now there are 13 different long necked dinosaurs.
- 1:09:08OK, there's the brachiosaur. The apatosaur.
- 1:09:10The cetosaur. He's got the big seed.
- 1:09:12OK, there's the Blondosaur. You have to talk to her Kind of
- 1:09:17slow. OK, I said I think Behemoth is
- 1:09:20the brachiosaurus. It says he eats grasses and ox.
- 1:09:24Some people say, hey, my Bible says elephant and elephants eat
- 1:09:26grass. Well duh, Bunny rabbits eat
- 1:09:29grass too. OK, a lot of animals eat grass
- 1:09:31right? Look at the next verse.
- 1:09:33His strength is in his loins. His force is in the navel of his
- 1:09:36belly. The biggest part on him is his
- 1:09:37belly. And they say, well, elephants
- 1:09:40have a big belly. Yes, I know hippopotamus have a
- 1:09:43big belly. Brachiosaurus had a big belly.
- 1:09:46He has a big belly. So does he that is just sick.
- 1:09:53Sick. Who would?
- 1:09:55Who would pose for that? Anyway, it says he moveth his
- 1:09:59tail like a cedar. Now hold on a minute.
- 1:10:03His tail is like a cedar tree. Have you ever seen an elephant's
- 1:10:06tail? I mean, would that remind you of
- 1:10:09a cedar tree or a hippo tail? Not like a cedar tree.
- 1:10:14Now, brachiosaurus tail. Yeah, that's a little more like
- 1:10:16a cedar tree than the rest of them.
- 1:10:18OK, You know, before they put those footnotes at the bottom of
- 1:10:21the Bible, I think they should be required to read the passage
- 1:10:24at least once and then comment on it.
- 1:10:26OK, By the way you preach us. If you're going to preach on a
- 1:10:29passage, at least read it once before you preach on it.
- 1:10:31OK Yeah. Anyway, next verse says his
- 1:10:35bones are as strong pieces of brass.
- 1:10:36His bones are like bars of iron. He has big heavy duty bones.
- 1:10:40And they did. This is a real dinosaur toe
- 1:10:42bone. I've got in my museum in
- 1:10:44Pensacola, one of the knuckle bones from a Brachiosaurus.
- 1:10:49Now, this will be kind of complicated, so listen
- 1:10:51carefully. The reason he had such big toe
- 1:10:54bones is because he had big toes.
- 1:10:59How many can figure that out with no help?
- 1:11:01456 OK And the reason he had those big toes is because he had
- 1:11:06a big foot. There's a kid taking a bath and
- 1:11:09a brachiosaur footprint. Pictures on the book right here
- 1:11:11on the steps. And the reason he had that
- 1:11:13Bigfoot is because he had a big leg to hold up.
- 1:11:15His front leg is 20 feet tall. The biggest dinosaur found so
- 1:11:20far is 60 feet to the top of the head found in Oklahoma.
- 1:11:24They say it's going to take him 20 years to dig all the bones
- 1:11:27out of the ground because it is a government project.
- 1:11:32They say when it was alive, it probably weighed 100 tons.
- 1:11:36Now 100 tons is equal to 14 school buses put together.
- 1:11:40That means if he was to come by and step on you, you would be
- 1:11:44deeply impressed by him. You would be Rd.
- 1:11:48Pizza. By the way, Speaking of
- 1:11:51government projects, I got to share with you my new invention
- 1:11:53that's going to make me the richest man on planet Earth.
- 1:11:57I'm going to save so much money for the highway department,
- 1:11:59construction crews, utility companies and the military.
- 1:12:03And all I want is 10% of the savings.
- 1:12:06And I'll be the richest man on planet Earth.
- 1:12:08I have invented a shovel that will stand up by itself.
- 1:12:14You won't need to pay those guys to lean on it anymore.
- 1:12:16I thank you. I know next verse says he's the
- 1:12:20chief of the ways of God. He's the chief.
- 1:12:24That's the Hebrew word, Risheth, which means he's the chief, He's
- 1:12:27the principal. He's the biggest animal God ever
- 1:12:29made. Well, that would not be the
- 1:12:32elephant or hippopotamus. It'd be the brachiosaurus.
- 1:12:35And that kind of fits the pattern for the way the devil
- 1:12:39works, you know, whenever God makes things, the devil tries to
- 1:12:41destroy them. God makes beautiful things and
- 1:12:44Satan always tries to destroy them.
- 1:12:46Hey, question. How big is your God?
- 1:12:48I mean, do you ever think about that when you stop and pray and
- 1:12:52you say Heavenly Father, do you have any idea who you're talking
- 1:12:55to? I mean, have you ever stopped
- 1:12:57and just thought about that? Who are you about to talk to?
- 1:13:01I mean, you sit down for lunch, You know you're going to pray.
- 1:13:04OK. Bless the bunch as they crunch
- 1:13:06the lunch. Amen.
- 1:13:09We expect God to come like a puppy dog when we call, don't
- 1:13:12we? OK, God, I got time for you.
- 1:13:15Now pay attention. Now here's my prayers.
- 1:13:17Give me this. Give me this.
- 1:13:18Give me this. Give me this and give me this
- 1:13:19and give it quick. That's about what it boils down
- 1:13:23to, isn't it? I mean, have you ever stopped
- 1:13:25and really thought who you're talking to?
- 1:13:27How big is your God? Hey, is your God big enough to
- 1:13:29tell you what to do and you just simply do it without question?
- 1:13:32For instance, does God tell you what kind of clothes to wear?
- 1:13:36Now, first, Timothy says the women should dress modestly.
- 1:13:39See, my daddy always said if you're not in business, don't
- 1:13:41advertise. Yeah, OK.
- 1:13:45Does God tell you how to cut your hair?
- 1:13:47First Corinthian says it's a shame for man to have long hair.
- 1:13:50When I got saved, I was a lifeguard.
- 1:13:52Nice suntan, long blonde hair. I read that and said, oh wow, I
- 1:13:56better go cut it. It's just a no question.
- 1:13:59It's a no brainer. God, you're not happy.
- 1:14:02Yes Sir. It's absolutely no brainer is
- 1:14:07how big is your God? I mean who is God of your life
- 1:14:10anyway? If he's really God then you read
- 1:14:12the book. You do what he says.
- 1:14:13End of story. Hey, does God tell you what kind
- 1:14:16of speech to have? Ephesians 4 says let no corrupt
- 1:14:19communication proceed out of your mouth.
- 1:14:21Is God happy with everything coming out of your mouth out of
- 1:14:25the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh?
- 1:14:28That's a good verse to quote to somebody when you hear him cuss.
- 1:14:30By the way, does God control what you watch on TV?
- 1:14:37Psalm 101 says I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes.
- 1:14:41Hey, do you put wicked things in front of your eyes?
- 1:14:45Suppose you made a rule around? Just suppose.
- 1:14:47Suppose you made a rule around your house.
- 1:14:50If you hear a cuss word on TV, you're going to shut it off for
- 1:14:52two hours. If you see somebody immodestly
- 1:14:56dressed, you're going to shut it off for two hours.
- 1:15:00If you see somebody drinking alcohol, you're going to shut it
- 1:15:03off for two hours. What if you just made those
- 1:15:06three simple rules at your house?
- 1:15:08How much TV would you watch? None.
- 1:15:12So you might as well sell it And give that 30 bucks a month for
- 1:15:14the cable bill to a missionary and we could We could win the
- 1:15:16whole world of Christ, couldn't we?
- 1:15:18Yeah. Does God tell you what kind of
- 1:15:21music to listen to? Ephesians 5.
- 1:15:24Speak to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs.
- 1:15:27Singing Melody, making heart in your heart to the Lord.
- 1:15:29Is God happy with your music? See, God loves music.
- 1:15:33God invented music, but Satan has invented some ungodly music
- 1:15:37you shouldn't listen to. Somebody asked me one time and
- 1:15:40they said, Hovind, do you know what you get if you play country
- 1:15:42music backwards? I said no, said you get your
- 1:15:46wife back, your hound dog back, your pick up back and you get
- 1:15:49out of jail. Yeah, God created a male and
- 1:15:54female. Did you know God invented
- 1:15:56marriage and the family and sex? I mean, he invented the whole
- 1:15:59thing and he wants it to be wonderful, but so he put some
- 1:16:03rules down. Boys don't touch the girls till
- 1:16:07you're married to them. Now, if you don't want to touch
- 1:16:09them, then stay away from me. I saw your kind in San
- 1:16:12Francisco. OK?
- 1:16:14God put the rules down. He put the rules down because he
- 1:16:19wants the best. He said The adulteress will hunt
- 1:16:22for the precious life. God doesn't want you hunting for
- 1:16:25a precious life. He wants you to have a precious
- 1:16:28life. Say, do you know why these
- 1:16:30Hollywood folks have to get married again every six months?
- 1:16:32Or Britney Spears, 55 hours. Jennifer Lopez, seven months.
- 1:16:37Brandy Norwood. Less than two years.
- 1:16:38Less than six months. Zsa Zsa Gabor married one day.
- 1:16:43You know why they got to get married again every six months.
- 1:16:45They're hunting for the precious life.
- 1:16:48They don't have it Now. Listen carefully.
- 1:16:51Don't pay any attention to Hollywood.
- 1:16:54They don't have a clue. Not the clue in the world how to
- 1:16:56have a precious life. If you want to have a precious
- 1:16:59life, you keep yourself pure till you walk down that aisle
- 1:17:02and the preacher says, wilt thou and then you wilt or whatever
- 1:17:04they do, and then you stay faithful to that one the rest of
- 1:17:07your life. That is the precious life.
- 1:17:11Don't believe Hollywood for a second.
- 1:17:12They don't have a clue. All right.
- 1:17:15God created the living creatures, every living
- 1:17:17creature. God made the dinosaurs.
- 1:17:20He made them. And Satan said, you know, there
- 1:17:23has to be some way I can use dinosaurs against God.
- 1:17:28But he couldn't fool Adam, not with dinosaurs.
- 1:17:31Adam named him. Can you imagine the devil
- 1:17:33walking up to Adam and saying, hey, Adam, did you know
- 1:17:36dinosaurs live millions of years ago?
- 1:17:39Adam would say, are you stupid? There's one in the backyard
- 1:17:43right there eating on the Cherry Tree.
- 1:17:44I mean, what do you mean? Millions of years ago, the devil
- 1:17:46couldn't fool Noah, and he fed him every day.
- 1:17:49But for the next 4000 years, dinosaurs became more rare.
- 1:17:53They were dying off or being killed off or whatever.
- 1:17:55You know some of the reasons they died and by 1809 they were
- 1:17:59just nearly extinct. And somebody found the bones and
- 1:18:03put one together. 1809 first dinosaur that we know of put
- 1:18:07together for a museum. Satan was there that day and
- 1:18:10said, wow, here's my chance. These critters have always lived
- 1:18:14with man. I know that and God knows that,
- 1:18:17but these people don't know that.
- 1:18:19So the devil said, I think I'm going to tell everybody they
- 1:18:21lived millions of years ago, and if they believe it, it'll make
- 1:18:26them doubt the Bible. And boy, has it worked good.
- 1:18:30You know, for the last 200 years, kids have gone to
- 1:18:32kindergarten and they get a book like this I can read about
- 1:18:36dinosaurs. Would anybody like to take a
- 1:18:39wild guess at what the first sentence in the book says
- 1:18:42millions of years ago? Hey, how many kids are being
- 1:18:46taught that in your town, at your expense, you are paying for
- 1:18:51the destruction of the next generation?
- 1:18:54Now maybe that doesn't bother you, but it bothers me.
- 1:18:57And if you think I leave my gorgeous wife and travel all
- 1:18:59over the world been gone. I see.
- 1:19:00Over 200 days a year for years now.
- 1:19:03Flew 215 times last year, spoke over 900 times.
- 1:19:06If you think I leave my gorgeous wife and my 4 grandkids because
- 1:19:09I like being gone, you are mistaken, OK?
- 1:19:14There would much rather be home, but there's a war going on.
- 1:19:18Somebody's got to warn the troops.
- 1:19:19Hello to arms. The British are coming.
- 1:19:21You know, Pick up your gun, guys.
- 1:19:22Let's go. There are kids by the billions
- 1:19:26being brainwashed on this planet and Satan is using dinosaurs to
- 1:19:30do it. Nearly all the books say
- 1:19:32millions of years ago. And then we got some Christians
- 1:19:34that totally ignore the subject because they don't have an
- 1:19:38answer. Well, study to show yourself
- 1:19:40approved unto God, get the answer and go share it with
- 1:19:43somebody. OK, Millions of years ago the
- 1:19:46book says I go to museums all the time.
- 1:19:48Just makes my blood boil. You see hundreds and hundreds of
- 1:19:52kids coming past these incredible displays.
- 1:19:54I mean, beautiful big dinosaur skeletons.
- 1:19:55And guess what the sign says at the bottom millions of years
- 1:19:58ago. See, Christians don't seem to
- 1:20:00understand this. The museums and science centres
- 1:20:03of the world that is their church, they are preaching their
- 1:20:09gospel, just like you are trying to preach your gospel and
- 1:20:13they're using your tax dollars to preach their gospel.
- 1:20:17That's how it happens. Millions of years ago, the Bible
- 1:20:21says the moth lieth under the shady trees in the covert of the
- 1:20:24Reed and Fens. Now the word Fens is an old
- 1:20:27English word that means the swamp.
- 1:20:29You know, the biggest swamp in the world's in the middle of
- 1:20:31Africa. It's called the Laquala swamp.
- 1:20:35That swamp is huge. Most Americans don't appreciate
- 1:20:37the size of Africa. Here's what Africa looks like
- 1:20:40next to the entire United States.
- 1:20:44Africa's gigantic. OK, that swamp is bigger, is the
- 1:20:49same size as the state of state of Florida, 55,000 square miles.
- 1:20:54That swamp is huge. Did you know that swamp is today
- 1:20:57is 80% unexplored? In 1885, Congo in Africa was
- 1:21:03taken over by Belgium and it was called the Belgian Congo for
- 1:21:06many, many years. In 1960, the communists
- 1:21:09liberated them. You know, the communists
- 1:21:11liberate countries, they kill everybody.
- 1:21:13OK, you're free now. Yeah, anyway, there were reports
- 1:21:16in that swamp. It's from the 1700s when the
- 1:21:19missionaries went in there and said, man, there are dinosaurs
- 1:21:21still living in that swamp. Dinosaurs still alive. 1910 New
- 1:21:26York Herald ran an article about dinosaurs still living in
- 1:21:29Africa's swamps. There's a Saturday Evening Post
- 1:21:321948 There could be dinosaurs still alive in Africa.
- 1:21:36A big game hunter named Mr. Gobbler returned from a trip to
- 1:21:44Angola. He announced to the Cape Town
- 1:21:46newspaper, the Cape Argus, that there was an animal of large
- 1:21:49dimensions, the description of which could only fit a dinosaur.
- 1:21:54The natives call it Chippequi. In Central African Republic,
- 1:21:58they call it Nguri. Roy Mackel went there in 1980 on
- 1:22:03an expedition. He spent a quarter $1,000,000.
- 1:22:05Went back again the next year, Went to that swamp, he said.
- 1:22:08It's the most miserable swamp on planet Earth.
- 1:22:11The mosquitoes landed on them at the rate of about 1000 an hour,
- 1:22:14constantly. I mean, like swarms of dust
- 1:22:17around you. Bloodthirsty mosquitoes, 95
- 1:22:21degrees, 95% humidity all the time.
- 1:22:25As they travelled around the swamp, the natives talked about
- 1:22:27this animal called Mahamba, he said.
- 1:22:30What's that? And he showed him a crocodile.
- 1:22:31Oh yeah, that Mahamba right there, Mahamba, he said.
- 1:22:33How big does it get? They pasted off on the sandbar
- 1:22:3650 feet long. Now if you're a pygmy 4 foot
- 1:22:404A50 foot crocodile looks really big to you.
- 1:22:43OK And everybody says no crocodiles, they never get past
- 1:22:47about 17 feet. Oh, I don't think that's
- 1:22:50correct. Earlier in the the summer of
- 1:22:522005, they killed a 24 foot crocodile in that swamp.
- 1:22:56Of course the natives will say, oh, you should see the big ones.
- 1:23:03The natives also talk about an animal they call Mokale Umbembi.
- 1:23:08Mokale Umbembi. What on earth is that?
- 1:23:12Well, if you show them the picture of an apatosaurus,
- 1:23:14they'll say Yup, Yup, that's it. Mokale Umbembi.
- 1:23:16The natives claim these animals live underwater.
- 1:23:18They're very rare, of course. They're in the swamp in Africa,
- 1:23:21and there's nobody goes out at night anyway, and there's no
- 1:23:23lights over there at night. But the animals are seen mostly
- 1:23:26early early morning or late in the evening when they come out.
- 1:23:29And their favorite plant is the Malombo plant.
- 1:23:31There's Doctor Mackel holding a Malombo plant.
- 1:23:34Doctor Mackel was University of Chicago microbiology professor.
- 1:23:36And he went over there and studied this carefully and came
- 1:23:38back and wrote a book called A Living Dinosaur.
- 1:23:42And he believes in evolution. But his book is great about the
- 1:23:44evidence for dinosaurs still living in African swamp.
- 1:23:48They found footprints of the creatures.
- 1:23:50A missionary friend of mine was there for 43 years as a
- 1:23:52missionary. Eugene Thomas.
- 1:23:53He's in Ohio now. Here's his phone number.
- 1:23:55Call him up. He was there for 40-3 years.
- 1:23:57He said. I had two pygmies in my church
- 1:23:58that killed one and ate it. Dinosaurs.
- 1:24:03There have been reports of these creatures in that swamp for a
- 1:24:05long time. 1 Belgian Congo biologist went up there upriver,
- 1:24:09500 miles to from his house and said he said he saw one, but his
- 1:24:12camera malfunctioned because the high humidity apparently ruined
- 1:24:15all the mechanisms inside. I don't know, but there have
- 1:24:18been many reports of dinosaurs in that swamp and you can study
- 1:24:20this for yourself. One group went there and they
- 1:24:23said the creature was dark brown in colour.
- 1:24:25The skin appeared slick and smooth, had a long neck and a
- 1:24:28small head. They heard it, they saw it.
- 1:24:31It was making a roaring noise and the government officials
- 1:24:34even saw it. There's an article here in the
- 1:24:37Boston Herald newspaper about a group going over to look for the
- 1:24:39dinosaurs still alive in the Congo swamp.
- 1:24:42All you got to do is type in cryptozoology.
- 1:24:45Crypto means hidden. Zoology means study of animals.
- 1:24:48Cryptozoology. You'll find all kinds of stuff
- 1:24:49about dinosaurs still living. The natives claim these animals
- 1:24:54live in caves along the side of the river.
- 1:24:57William Gibbons has been there four Times Now to the Congo
- 1:25:00swamp. He and I wrote this book
- 1:25:01together for kids, claws, jaws and dinosaurs.
- 1:25:04William Gibbons wrote me a letter, he said.
- 1:25:06According to our guide Pierre Sima.
- 1:25:08We were the first white men to actually penetrate the forest
- 1:25:10and swamps bordering the Bwamba River.
- 1:25:13Our informants, almost all of them Baca pygmies with the
- 1:25:15exception of an elderly Cameroonian Muslim, are
- 1:25:17perfectly familiar with all the known and unknown animals of the
- 1:25:20swamps. While they do not regard Laquila
- 1:25:22Umbembi, it's a different language OK as being an unusual
- 1:25:26animal, they do fear the creature because of its ferocity
- 1:25:31and attacking hippos, elephants and crocodiles.
- 1:25:33The animal appears to be completely intolerant of any
- 1:25:35other large creature that shares the river and controls large
- 1:25:38stretches of the river, particularly where those food
- 1:25:40supplies. Where the food supplies present,
- 1:25:43the two suspected dinosaurians, Mokali, Ambembi, and Nagubu, are
- 1:25:47observed and encountered on a regular basis.
- 1:25:49I questioned an older Baca couple that work on Pierre's
- 1:25:52plantation. Like most Pygmies, they are very
- 1:25:54familiar with the flora and fauna of the region.
- 1:25:57I presented them with our book of known African animals and
- 1:26:00dinosaur illustrations. About 98% of the dinosaur
- 1:26:04illustrations were rejected, except for two, which they
- 1:26:07picked out without hesitation that they had observed A
- 1:26:10sauropod dinosaur and a triceratops.
- 1:26:14Now why would people in the middle of the swamp in Africa
- 1:26:16say, Oh yeah, we've seen that one.
- 1:26:19Missionary, Cal Bombay, was there for years in Kenya.
- 1:26:22He said. He and his wife saw one of these
- 1:26:23creatures, but the plates on the back were bigger, more like a
- 1:26:26stegosaurus. Down in South America, they've
- 1:26:30got the Amazon jungle, which is huge.
- 1:26:32In 19 O 7, British Army sent Colonel Fawcett to mark the
- 1:26:36boundary between Brazil and Peru.
- 1:26:38He was an officer in the Royal Engineers and was known as an
- 1:26:41order as Recorder of Meticulous Recorder of Facts in the Benny
- 1:26:46Swamps. He said he saw what he believed
- 1:26:47to be a diplodocus. The natives and the tribes
- 1:26:51around there say, Oh yeah, that animal still lives out here in
- 1:26:53the swamp. Colonel Fawcett's son made
- 1:26:55sketches of the footprints in 1883 in Scientific American ran
- 1:27:00this article before they got committed to evolution.
- 1:27:03An article like this would never make it in Scientific American
- 1:27:05today because now they're dedicated to preserving the
- 1:27:07theory. But they said the Brazilian
- 1:27:09minister at La Paz, Bolivia, had remitted to the minister of
- 1:27:12foreign affairs in Rio. Photographs of drawings of an
- 1:27:15extraordinary saurian killed on the Benny after receiving 36
- 1:27:18balls by order of the president. The dried body, which had been
- 1:27:21preserved and was sent to La Paz.
- 1:27:24It was 12 meters long, 39 feet from snout to point.
- 1:27:28It had scale armor, The neck is long, the belly large and almost
- 1:27:32dragging the ground. Professor Guilvetti examined the
- 1:27:35beast. Said It's a member of a lost
- 1:27:37species. The Indians in that region make
- 1:27:40small earthen vessels in the same shape, probably copied from
- 1:27:42nature Dinosaurs. Von Goff called me three days
- 1:27:47ago because I was driving up here to Indiana, he said.
- 1:27:50Yeah, the natives in his area talk about a lizard that's 30
- 1:27:53feet long, 5 feet tall, makes a thundering noise to startle its
- 1:27:56prey. The native Why?
- 1:27:58Why? Indians call it Uru Ferry, and
- 1:28:01they are terrified of this creature.
- 1:28:03Here's his e-mail vaughn@golfministries.org e-mail
- 1:28:06him Talk about dinosaurs still in the swamp down there.
- 1:28:09Here's a giant snake that was killed several years ago. 35
- 1:28:12foot snake. It had eaten a man who fell
- 1:28:14asleep on the job. Stay awake on the job, fella is
- 1:28:20OK. This snake was reported
- 1:28:23Indonesia being 49 feet long. I don't know if it's true or
- 1:28:26not, but I mean they might. People might have exaggerated
- 1:28:27but that's the reports of a giant snake down there.
- 1:28:30Colonel Fawcett said he killed a 62 foot Anaconda snake and the
- 1:28:34natives were terrified. They said Colonel, if there's
- 1:28:36one, there's going to be another one.
- 1:28:40The officials of Brazil Columbia boundary in 1933 killed a 98
- 1:28:45foot snake 2 feet in diameter weighed 2 tons.
- 1:28:49The cook from a hotel in Amazon said they saw a 100 foot snake
- 1:28:52that the military haunted down after it killed and eaten two
- 1:28:54soldiers. The head was 5 feet long.
- 1:28:58Reuters news service reported 130 foot snake back in 97.
- 1:29:04This thing floated down the Amazon River.
- 1:29:07Nobody poked it to see if it was alive, but they reported it's
- 1:29:10over 100, nearly 150 feet long. Amazon River is huge, halfway up
- 1:29:16where a former student of mine was a missionary for years, he
- 1:29:19said. The Amazon River way back here
- 1:29:20is 9 miles wide. That's a big river.
- 1:29:25There's a lake in Scotland called Loch Ness.
- 1:29:27Has anybody ever heard of Loch Ness?
- 1:29:30Loch Ness is a huge lake, 24 miles long, a mile to mile and a
- 1:29:33half wide, up to 900 feet deep. Loch Ness is big enough that
- 1:29:37everybody on planet earth could go drowned in it at the same
- 1:29:40time it would hold the entire population of the world. 6
- 1:29:44billion people would fit in that lake.
- 1:29:47It's huge. In 1933 a road bed was cut into
- 1:29:50the side of the mountain because before 1933 if you wanted to see
- 1:29:54the lake you got to climb over the mountains or go upriver 7
- 1:29:57miles in your boat. So not many people went there.
- 1:29:59Very sparsely populated 1933, the first year the road was put
- 1:30:04in, there were 52 separate sightings of the Loch Ness
- 1:30:06Monster. This author said there have been
- 1:30:119000 reported sightings today. Now that was back in the 1960s
- 1:30:14when this book was written. Today it's over. 11,000 reported
- 1:30:17sightings of the Loch Ness Monster. 11,000.
- 1:30:21Of course, some are fakes and frauds.
- 1:30:22OK, Discover. I wouldn't trust the, you know,
- 1:30:25Weekly World News. You know where they got all this
- 1:30:28weird stuff? In there.
- 1:30:29But Sir Peter Scott's a member of Parliament.
- 1:30:31He said he saw it. He believes it's a plesiosaur.
- 1:30:35Almost everybody that sees it says it's this animal right
- 1:30:37here, a plesiosaurus, long neck, 4 big flippers.
- 1:30:44One guy wrote a book and he said some people think think Nessie
- 1:30:46is a plesiosaur. There's one thing wrong with
- 1:30:48this theory. Plesiosaurs are believed to have
- 1:30:51become extinct 70 million years ago.
- 1:30:54Oh, is that what's wrong with the theory?
- 1:30:59I think this evolution theory has got to be the biggest
- 1:31:01hindrance to scientific research there's ever been, That you look
- 1:31:05at the facts, forget your theories, look at the facts, and
- 1:31:08come up with your conclusions. OK, Arthur Grant nearly ran into
- 1:31:11Nessie on his motorcycle one night, he said.
- 1:31:15I had a splendid view of the object.
- 1:31:17In fact, I almost struck it with my motorcycle.
- 1:31:19It had a long neck, Oval, large, Oval shaped eyes on top of a
- 1:31:23small head. The tail would be 5 to 6 feet
- 1:31:26long. He describes it. 15 to 20 feet
- 1:31:28long altogether, he said, knowing something of Natural
- 1:31:30History. He was a veterinarian student.
- 1:31:32OK, he said. I've never seen anything like it
- 1:31:34in my life. Here's the sketch he drew of
- 1:31:37what he nearly ran over on his motorcycle.
- 1:31:40A 20 foot long plesiosaur. Alexander Campbell was the game
- 1:31:43warden for Loch Ness for 47 years.
- 1:31:45He said he saw it 18 times. There's this sketch he drew of
- 1:31:48it. Many people have tried to catch
- 1:31:50the Loch Ness Monster. They've used everything you can
- 1:31:52imagine for bait and some things you could not imagine.
- 1:31:54So so far nobody's caught it. I mean, the lake is huge, but
- 1:31:57there have been many, many sketches drawn.
- 1:31:59One family said they saw it with a sheep in its mouth.
- 1:32:02One guy got a picture of the hump sticking out of the water.
- 1:32:05The neck is over on the far right.
- 1:32:07Then Reader's Digest, of course they crop everything down.
- 1:32:09They cut the neck off when they publish their picture, the crop
- 1:32:13picture, But McLeod said he watched it for 9 minutes through
- 1:32:16binoculars and made four sketches of it, of what he saw,
- 1:32:20McLeod said. I think the monster looks like
- 1:32:21this. All you got to do is, you know,
- 1:32:24watch TV programs once in a while where they talk about the
- 1:32:26Loch Ness Monster. There are thousands of people
- 1:32:28who will go on record and say I have seen it.
- 1:32:32World Book Encyclopedia paid to have a submarine taken over
- 1:32:34there from South Carolina. The mini sub, the guy went down
- 1:32:39in the water and so that water is so black I can't even see the
- 1:32:44front of my own boat. Loch Ness is like a giant mud
- 1:32:48puddle. You go down in there just a few
- 1:32:50feet, visibility is 0, you can't see a thing.
- 1:32:53Japanese put 24 boats, went all the way down the lake and
- 1:32:56reported they scanned the bottom with radar sonar and said man,
- 1:32:59this is a deep lake and it's wrinkled up like a Raisin and
- 1:33:03there are caves going off to the side, probably with air chambers
- 1:33:07the creature can come up under and you know, go under the
- 1:33:09inside the mountain and breathe and live in there.
- 1:33:11One guy got a picture of diamond shaped flipper underwater.
- 1:33:16Again they thought it was a plesiosaur.
- 1:33:18Reader's Digest published this picture and back in 78 pictures
- 1:33:21right there on the floor about Nessie with Nessie with its
- 1:33:23mouth open. We can go all day about Loch
- 1:33:26Ness Monster. But they said this photograph
- 1:33:28was a fake. And it probably was, but I don't
- 1:33:29know. It's interesting they waited
- 1:33:31till the last guy involved died to announce it's a fake.
- 1:33:35Now how do you check out the truth?
- 1:33:36But anyway, there are other lakes besides Loch Ness.
- 1:33:38There's Loch Lachy, Loch Morar. There are many other lakes
- 1:33:40reporting creatures. There's one called them
- 1:33:42Morguard, the Cornish sea serpent by England.
- 1:33:45The English Channel has many reported sightings of a creature
- 1:33:48like this in 1749 in England that a creature was caught
- 1:33:53resembling in some degree an alligator but having two large
- 1:33:56fins. The body was covered with
- 1:33:58impenetrable scales that had five rows of teeth. 1934 This
- 1:34:02thing washed up on the beach in Normandy, France.
- 1:34:06There's a guy standing there looking at it for scale.
- 1:34:10A couple of scientists reported this creature swam past their
- 1:34:13boat in Brazil in 1905. They reported the whole thing in
- 1:34:15a scientific journal. The creature had a long neck, 6
- 1:34:19feet long, 2 feet high. The dorsal fin, I'm sorry, was 6
- 1:34:25feet long, 2 feet high, a small head on a neck about 7 or 8 feet
- 1:34:28long. 2 experienced British naturalist reported the thing
- 1:34:32and again we can go all day on reported sightings.
- 1:34:35This thing in 19 In 1977 a Japanese fishing boat pulled
- 1:34:38this up. In their net there's 32 feet
- 1:34:40long, 4000 lbs, they said. What on earth is that?
- 1:34:45Captain said. I don't know but it stinks.
- 1:34:48When they set it down on the deck it broke in half and pus
- 1:34:51oozed out everywhere. So they made a bunch of
- 1:34:54sketches, took a bunch of pictures and shoved it
- 1:34:55overboard. Special stamp was made for
- 1:34:58Japanese male 1977. Now, some people argue that it
- 1:35:01might have been a basking shark, and I agree it might have been a
- 1:35:04basking shark. But the fisherman on board said
- 1:35:07we know what basking sharks are. We don't think it is.
- 1:35:09OK, basking sharks, they tend to rot away, leaving the head part
- 1:35:13behind. But there's a basking shark
- 1:35:14right there. OK?
- 1:35:15It could have been a basking. It doesn't matter to me.
- 1:35:17They said the protein is 96% similar.
- 1:35:19Yes, I know, but nobody's ever seen plesiosaur protein.
- 1:35:21OK, to know what it's supposed to look like.
- 1:35:23Humans and apes are similar, but have many differences also.
- 1:35:25Anyways, there's a lot of arguments about that.
- 1:35:27It doesn't matter to me, but some people get all bent out of
- 1:35:28shape because they even mention, you know, the Japanese Catch of
- 1:35:311977, Russians report a creature in the lake up there.
- 1:35:34They're called Mystery of the lake here.
- 1:35:37Well, look like a dinosaur washed up on the beach in Russia
- 1:35:39in 1994. It was 39 feet long.
- 1:35:43This thing apparently is a doctored photo of a shark.
- 1:35:47Somebody with Photoshop, you know, made it look like a
- 1:35:49plesiosaur. But actually it's a doctored
- 1:35:51photo. But so be careful.
- 1:35:53There's plenty of frauds out there, no question.
- 1:35:55But the existence of a fraud or counterfeit does not disprove
- 1:35:57the existence of the original. Right?
- 1:36:01In night in 2004, a bunch of people hover in Papua New Guinea
- 1:36:04reported a creature like a dinosaur, 10 feet tall, with a
- 1:36:08head like an alligator, a tail like an alligator, a head like a
- 1:36:11dog. Right there on the island on the
- 1:36:13city of Kokopo, one lady said she saw she ran for her life
- 1:36:17seeing a 3M tall creature with a head like a dog and a tail like
- 1:36:20a crocodile. You can read all about on the
- 1:36:22Internet about this creature seen just in 2004.
- 1:36:24Japan reports some of these creatures.
- 1:36:27The North Lake and North Island Haikoto reports them and the
- 1:36:29South Island down here, Japan, they call it Ishi.
- 1:36:32In Lake Ikida. In China there's reported one
- 1:36:35called USO, unidentified swimming object.
- 1:36:42Norway has several reported sightings, as do Swedish lakes.
- 1:36:45A couple of Swedish lakes up there, they call it.
- 1:36:47Anybody speak Swedish? Know how to say that?
- 1:36:50Storage Jordan. close enough. Yeah.
- 1:36:53OK. You don't speak Swedish to you.
- 1:36:55You're lying. OK.
- 1:36:57In Norway, they've got a creature they say say it's very
- 1:36:59similar to the Loch Ness Monster.
- 1:37:00Hundreds of folks claim they've seen it.
- 1:37:02It's in the news occasionally. Kind of like Loch Ness.
- 1:37:04OK. Canada has reported sightings of
- 1:37:06these creatures. Canadian lake monsters.
- 1:37:09Nessie's Canadian cousin. There's a lake in the town of
- 1:37:12Kelowna called the Lake Okanagan.
- 1:37:15It's a huge lake. It's 80 miles long.
- 1:37:19I've been up there twice to speak in the town of Kelowna.
- 1:37:21The the natives call this creature the Ogo Pogo.
- 1:37:24We sell the book on our table back there if you want to get
- 1:37:27that. The Ogo Pogo, very similar to
- 1:37:29Loch Ness Monster. Thousands of folks claim they've
- 1:37:32seen that one. This article says they were the
- 1:37:34latest among thousands to see something strange in this narrow
- 1:37:3618 mile long lake. One guy swam the length of the
- 1:37:40lake and said the thing came up under him.
- 1:37:42Scared him half to death. I got news articles like crazy
- 1:37:45about this, she said. I saw Olga Pogo twice.
- 1:37:48This woman says. I interviewed John Caruso.
- 1:37:51He and his family were sleeping in their boat on the lake.
- 1:37:53They're camping out on the lake and their big boat, and
- 1:37:55something bumped the bottom of their boat and woke them all up
- 1:37:57in the middle of the early, early in the morning, they went
- 1:38:00out and saw two Olga Pogo swimming across the lake.
- 1:38:03He went back, grabbed his camera.
- 1:38:04By the time he got it, it was, you know, pretty far away.
- 1:38:06But he gave me the copy of the video footage of what he saw at
- 1:38:09about, you know, quite too far away to make out the details.
- 1:38:12But he said look, but Hogan, I saw the Olga Pogo.
- 1:38:15Many, many folks will go on record and saying I have seen
- 1:38:17it. There's one in Cadborough Source
- 1:38:19or Cadborough Bay, British Columbia.
- 1:38:21There's a book about that if you want to read more.
- 1:38:23A baby caddy was found inside the stomach of a sperm whale.
- 1:38:28They say it has a long a short pointed front flippers and a
- 1:38:30long necked, long necked beast with a horse like head.
- 1:38:35One guy caught a baby one with his dip net, drew a sketch of it
- 1:38:38before he released it. He didn't know what it was so he
- 1:38:40let it go. I interviewed this guy for an
- 1:38:44hour. These four guys were fishing in
- 1:38:45Canada when a creature chased their boat off Cape Sable
- 1:38:49Island, Nova Scotia when I was preaching up there.
- 1:38:52It happened in 1992 When I met him.
- 1:38:55He said he was 67 when this happened.
- 1:38:59He'd been fishing out there since he was five.
- 1:39:00He said this 40 to 50 foot long creature chase their boat for
- 1:39:03one to two miles. He said the neck was 2 feet
- 1:39:07thick and 8 to 9 feet long had a nine inch diameter eyes.
- 1:39:11He said they were 6 miles South of Cape Sable Island.
- 1:39:13He said. I don't want to see it again.
- 1:39:15That's what he told me. This thing washed up on the
- 1:39:18beach in Newfoundland. Sometimes big blobs wash up.
- 1:39:20Sometimes it is whale skin. Actually.
- 1:39:23The whale dies, gets eaten and the layer of blubber, you know,
- 1:39:25washes up sometimes. Sometimes it's a basking shark.
- 1:39:28Parker Cove This thing washed up in Parker Cove Canada.
- 1:39:31I talked to many folks who said they saw it.
- 1:39:33A lot of people went analyzed it.
- 1:39:34I don't think it's ever positively determined what it
- 1:39:36is. It might have been a basking
- 1:39:37shark, but nobody knows. Positively.
- 1:39:40But it's gone. People cut pieces off it.
- 1:39:43The vertebrae do tend to look like shark vertebrae instead of
- 1:39:47any other kind. It's just interesting.
- 1:39:48Stuff like this washes up on the beach.
- 1:39:50But we sell a book called Monster Monster about North
- 1:39:52American lake monsters, lake monsters and sea serpents.
- 1:39:56Good book by Lauren Coleman, who is a cryptozoologist but also an
- 1:40:00evolutionist. OK, I debate.
- 1:40:01I I debate nothing. I I interviewed Jacques Bovet
- 1:40:05for three hours. He collects sightings of the
- 1:40:07lake. Memphrmagog creature between
- 1:40:10Vermont and Quebec, Canada Hundreds of folks claim they've
- 1:40:14seen something in this lake. Up there in Memph Lake,
- 1:40:16Memphrmagog creatures been seen in the Potomac River.
- 1:40:20There's a book about the Great New England Sea Serpent.
- 1:40:23There's an island off Connecticut and Rhode Island
- 1:40:25called Block Island where many folks claim they've seen
- 1:40:27creatures swimming around out there.
- 1:40:28They call it the Block Nest Monster.
- 1:40:33One washed up in 1996. Another was something else.
- 1:40:35Washed up in 2004. Never was identified.
- 1:40:37That I know of. And I I interview people all the
- 1:40:41time. And Lake Lake Erie's apparently
- 1:40:43got one. Erie's Bessie matches Nessie.
- 1:40:46They say it's 35 feet long, has a snake like head.
- 1:40:49It's in the newspaper once in a while about Lake Erie's monster.
- 1:40:52OK, you can read all that for yourself.
- 1:40:53But a dead baby creature was found on the beach of Lake Erie.
- 1:40:57A guy took it home, stuffed it and mounted it.
- 1:40:58He's a taxidermist, he said. You tell me what it is.
- 1:41:02I don't know. Doctor Bob bought it.
- 1:41:04It's in his museum in Texas. It's never been identified.
- 1:41:06They're not sure what. It may be a fake, Nobody knows.
- 1:41:08But very interesting little critter.
- 1:41:10I interviewed the sheriff. We saw That was the first guys
- 1:41:12to see the Scituate harbour monster 50 feet long.
- 1:41:15When it washed up on the beach, everybody started cutting pieces
- 1:41:17off. By the time they got the photo
- 1:41:18taken, it was pretty butchered up.
- 1:41:21Some people argued it's a basking shark.
- 1:41:22Others said it's a real sea serpent.
- 1:41:24The health department said we don't care.
- 1:41:25It stinks. We're getting out of here.
- 1:41:26And so they blew it up with dynamite.
- 1:41:28California, 1925. This critter washed up on the
- 1:41:31beach. That's the head.
- 1:41:34Here's the neck going down to the right.
- 1:41:39Just the neck was 20 feet long. What everybody that examined it
- 1:41:44said it was a plesiosaurus 20 foot neck.
- 1:41:50One atheist wrote me a letter and said, Hovind, you're so
- 1:41:52stupid, he said don't you know that was a whale?
- 1:41:57I said Now, just exactly where is the neck on a whale?
- 1:42:01Ought to be between the head and the flippers.
- 1:42:04He said it's a rare form of Bard's beaked whale.
- 1:42:07Oh, it's pretty rare, right? With a 20 foot neck?
- 1:42:10Duh. The people who saw it said it's
- 1:42:13a plesiosaurus. Why is that so hard to believe?
- 1:42:16You know why people resist explanations like that?
- 1:42:19It goes against their theory. They like the evolution theory
- 1:42:23because it gives them freedom from God.
- 1:42:26That's why they like that theory and we can spend all day on
- 1:42:29cryptozoology stuff. I have studied this for years
- 1:42:32and love I've interviewed now 100 people that claim they've
- 1:42:34seen a living dinosaur. In New York, 1969, the Harbor
- 1:42:39police chased something much bigger than a whale upriver.
- 1:42:42Never did catch. It could have been a Zoogledon
- 1:42:44or a Vasilosaurus, I don't know. But the White River Monster in
- 1:42:47Newport, AR has been reported many times up until 1973.
- 1:42:50It apparently disappeared. Arkansas Senate passed a
- 1:42:53resolution said it's unlawful to molest, kill or trample the
- 1:42:55White River monster off the coast of Jupiter FL.
- 1:42:59Something's been seen similar to a dinosaur swimming in the ocean
- 1:43:02out there. You can read the articles for
- 1:43:03yourself. A lot of the stuff's on my
- 1:43:04website. Doctor Dino you can read all
- 1:43:06about this. There's a lake between New York
- 1:43:08and Vermont called Lake Champlain where many people
- 1:43:11claim they've seen the Lake Champlain monster.
- 1:43:14I interviewed Sandy that took this picture.
- 1:43:15I said Sandy do you think you saw a dinosaur?
- 1:43:18She said no, I know I saw a dinosaur.
- 1:43:22She and her husband and two kids watched it for 10 minutes. 58
- 1:43:28people on the Ethan Allen which capsized earlier a couple months
- 1:43:30ago. You know people.
- 1:43:32Some people think they all ran to one side to see something and
- 1:43:35flip the boat over. I don't know maybe it's just too
- 1:43:36many Twinkies. But the captain on board back in
- 1:43:40898 said if you if you think what I saw was a fish, it
- 1:43:42weighed 3000 to 5000 lbs. Bible talks about the Dragons of
- 1:43:47the waters. He shall slay the dragon that is
- 1:43:51in the sea. In Pensacola, where I live, four
- 1:43:54or five teenagers went scuba diving back in 1962.
- 1:43:58One survived the trip. Here's what he said.
- 1:44:02They were going out to the sunken ship in the Pensacola
- 1:44:04harbour called the Massachusetts, and here's what
- 1:44:05he said. I've got tons of stuff on this,
- 1:44:08he said. We were an Air Force rescue raft
- 1:44:10bound for a sunken ship a few miles off the coast.
- 1:44:12Midway out, we were caught in a storm and dragged out to sea.
- 1:44:15When the storm cleared, we were in a dense fog.
- 1:44:18We began to hear strange noises, like the splashing of a porpoise
- 1:44:21and a sickening order like dead fish.
- 1:44:23The noise got closer to the raft and I heard a loud hissing
- 1:44:25sound. Out in the fog.
- 1:44:27We saw what looked like a long pole about 10 feet high sticking
- 1:44:30up out of the water. On top was a bulb like
- 1:44:34structure. It bent in the middle and went
- 1:44:37under. It appeared several more times,
- 1:44:39getting closer to the raft. The silence was broken once
- 1:44:41again by something out of the fog.
- 1:44:43I can only describe it as a high pitched wine.
- 1:44:45We panicked. All five of us put on our fins
- 1:44:49and went into the water. Keep together and try for the
- 1:44:52ship. I yelled.
- 1:44:53After we got in the water. We got split up in the fog and
- 1:44:55from behind I could hear the screams of my comrades.
- 1:44:57One by one I got a closer look at the thing just before my last
- 1:45:00friend went under. The neck was about 12 feet long,
- 1:45:03brownish green and smooth looking.
- 1:45:05The head was like a sea turtle, except more elongated.
- 1:45:08The eyes were green with Oval pupils.
- 1:45:12I don't know how long it was before I heard a scream.
- 1:45:15It lasted maybe half a minute. Then I heard Warren's call.
- 1:45:17Hey, help me. It's got Brad.
- 1:45:19I've got to get out of here. His voice was cut off abruptly
- 1:45:22by a short cry. Brad Warren.
- 1:45:24Hey, where is everybody? I yelled back at the top of my
- 1:45:26lungs. Larry now swam with Eric and me.
- 1:45:28Warren and Brad were nowhere insight.
- 1:45:30Right next to Eric. That telephone pole like figure
- 1:45:33broke water. I could see the long neck and
- 1:45:34two small eyes. The mouth opened and it bent
- 1:45:37over. It dove on top of Eric, dragging
- 1:45:39him under. I screamed and began to swim
- 1:45:41past the ship. My insides were shaking
- 1:45:43uncontrollably. He drew a sketch of the thing
- 1:45:46that killed his friends. He said.
- 1:45:49I finally made it to the top of the ship and stayed there most
- 1:45:53of the night. Next morning I swam to shore,
- 1:45:55was found by the rescue unit. That's the sketch Brian Mccleary
- 1:45:59drew of what he saw that killed his four friends.
- 1:46:02I was speaking in Fort Walton Beach, FL one time and Valerie
- 1:46:04Bill came to me and said Mr. Hovind, my my stepson, Larry
- 1:46:07Bill was one of the kids who was eaten.
- 1:46:09That story you're telling is correct.
- 1:46:11But the Pensacola News Journal said after they interviewed him,
- 1:46:14They said this is a beach town. You know, people come here to go
- 1:46:16swimming. We're not going to report that
- 1:46:19your friends got eaten by a dinosaur.
- 1:46:21We're going to report that they drowned.
- 1:46:23So that's what the newspaper said.
- 1:46:24Four teenagers drowned Panama City.
- 1:46:27There's something seen there. Similar youth director at a
- 1:46:29Lutheran Church told me his whole youth group was in the van
- 1:46:31and they saw a creature like that in Panama City harbor.
- 1:46:35There've been many reports of dinosaurs still living.
- 1:46:38There could be some pterodactyl still alive.
- 1:46:41The natives called the animal the Congo motto.
- 1:46:45If you're in the Congo, in bat in Kenya they call it Batum
- 1:46:47Zynga. Steve Romani was Romani was on
- 1:46:51the Kenya Olympic running team. He called me and said but he was
- 1:46:53going to school in Louisiana, he said.
- 1:46:56Mr. Hovind, I saw those creatures, he said.
- 1:46:58We've got him in my village in Kenya, He said their favorite
- 1:47:01food is decaying human flesh. They dig up graves and eat the
- 1:47:05bodies. They kept talking about the
- 1:47:07conga motto. We could cover dinosaurs still
- 1:47:11living for hours, but there been lots of reports of pterodactyls
- 1:47:15still around. I get calls about this from
- 1:47:17people all the time about pterodactyls being seen in Papua
- 1:47:20New Guinea or in Indonesia or in Venezuela.
- 1:47:24Wish we had time to cover all that about all these pterodactyl
- 1:47:26sightings. So Dave Wetzel went there and
- 1:47:28said, man, the natives kept talking about this flying ropin
- 1:47:32that glows in the dark over in Papua New Guinea and lives on
- 1:47:35the island right there. So what's the point you say,
- 1:47:39Brother Hovind, Who cares? Yeah, I think there might be
- 1:47:41some dinosaurs still alive. And I think we have really been
- 1:47:44lied to about the dinosaurs. Now, I don't think there's many,
- 1:47:47and it's probably safe to go to the dorm.
- 1:47:49OK, don't get excited and think, wow, we're going to get eaten by
- 1:47:51dinosaur. No, it's not that way.
- 1:47:52The hallway will be clear tonight, I assure you.
- 1:47:54OK, but the Indians had a legend called the Thunderbird.
- 1:47:59They said a giant bird got hit by lightning.
- 1:48:01When they found it three days later, the buzzers had picked
- 1:48:03the bones clean, but they said the wingspan was 20 feet and had
- 1:48:09a Bony bump on the back of its head.
- 1:48:12The Indian Prayer sticks to this day have the head of a
- 1:48:15pterodactyl on them now. Henry Ford put an eagle on the
- 1:48:20taillight of his Thunderbird. It should have been a
- 1:48:21pterodactyl. You blew it, Henry.
- 1:48:26French explorers Jacques Marquette and Joliet stopped
- 1:48:30near what now the town of Saint Louis, and reported they saw a
- 1:48:33big ugly bird painted on the Cliff on the other side in
- 1:48:35Alton, IL. The Indian said.
- 1:48:38Oh, it's a pyosaw bird. A great chief killed him years
- 1:48:41ago. They painted the picture up
- 1:48:43there for years. They finally put a big metal
- 1:48:45plaque. There's me down below it for
- 1:48:47scale. They took it down for fear of
- 1:48:48the plaque would fall. I guess they just recently put
- 1:48:50it back up. I don't know.
- 1:48:51But if you go to Alton, IL, you'll see Piasau, you know,
- 1:48:54Piasau, Dairy Queen. It's pretty famous over there,
- 1:48:57whatever the Piasau bird was. OK.
- 1:48:59And we talk a lot about that. People say, Brother Hovind, why
- 1:49:02do you speak about dinosaurs? Well, for one thing, Satan's
- 1:49:04using them to teach his gospel. It's time Christians, you know,
- 1:49:07put up a defence. Christians are confused where
- 1:49:10they fit in. They are a great evangelistic
- 1:49:12tool. Kids will gather around you like
- 1:49:15crazy when you get dinosaurs. He's the chief of the ways of
- 1:49:20God. Well then God ought to get the
- 1:49:22glory. Now, the Bible also talks about
- 1:49:24Leviathan, but that's a whole nother story.
- 1:49:25We'll cover Leviathan some other time.
- 1:49:27So basically, God made everything in six days.
- 1:49:29Dinosaurs lived with man. People have killed most of them.
- 1:49:32There could be a few still alive.
- 1:49:34And Christians need to quit worrying about dinosaurs and
- 1:49:36start using them for God's glory.
- 1:49:39Cover more on that in the next session.
- 1:49:45Well, this is Kent Hovind. It is August 31st, 1993.
- 1:49:49I'm sitting here at the Antique Quest in Winchester, NH with
- 1:49:53Sandy Mansi. It's good to see you again,
- 1:49:55Sandy. I saw you back in 92 and Sandy
- 1:49:59is the one that saw Champ. Her picture appears on the cover
- 1:50:02of the book by Joseph Zarzynski. This was this took.
- 1:50:07Why don't you tell us when it was and where you were and just
- 1:50:10a little bit about it. I was in Vermont on the Vermont
- 1:50:14side and my husband when we weren't married at the time with
- 1:50:18fiance and my children, we were exploring the lake that I grew
- 1:50:21up in that area and we were just exploring the lake, sitting
- 1:50:25there enjoying the peace and quiet.
- 1:50:29My husband had gone back to the car to get the camera, and while
- 1:50:32he was gone there was a disturbance in the lake and I
- 1:50:37looked out. I thought perhaps there was a
- 1:50:38school of fish and maybe a scuba diver or something.
- 1:50:41And then the head and the neck broke the surface of the water,
- 1:50:46and the head picked up in the neck in the back.
- 1:50:49And I knew it wasn't a fish. Right.
- 1:50:53Well, great. And some people said.
- 1:50:55They, they. They.
- 1:50:56I heard somebody told you that they thought maybe it was a
- 1:50:59duck. I.
- 1:51:00Think it's about a 2000 LB duck A. 2000 LB Duck When we were at
- 1:51:05the church when you came to hear me speak up in remember that was
- 1:51:09New Hampshire, Dublin, NH you I had all my dinosaurs on the
- 1:51:12table and you immediately picked out this one as champ.
- 1:51:15But you said it was a little different what you saw.
- 1:51:17Yes, what I saw is the neck was not near as long and the head is
- 1:51:23shaped right like a horse head, but the neck is not near as
- 1:51:28long. OK, now there are three or four
- 1:51:30different types of swimming dinosaurs that bones have been
- 1:51:33found out. There's the chronosaur, which
- 1:51:34has a huge neck, the plesiosaur which you're holding.
- 1:51:37And then there's the elasmosaur, had a shorter neck and the head
- 1:51:41is at a right angle to the body instead of in line with the
- 1:51:44body. There may be others of course,
- 1:51:47undiscovered yet, but get that where they can see it on the
- 1:51:49camera. I think this more shorter neck
- 1:51:54with a shorter neck or or it could be the the neck wasn't
- 1:51:58fall out of the water too. OK.
- 1:52:01All right. So this was in back in 1977.
- 1:52:05How many other people do you know or have you talked to the
- 1:52:07claim? They have seen it also.
- 1:52:09I have spoken with probably about six different people who
- 1:52:13have seen it and all of our accounts are very, very similar.
- 1:52:20So we all can't be crazy, and we all can't be telling something
- 1:52:25that maybe we didn't see. But they're all very, very
- 1:52:28similar. The shape of the head and neck,
- 1:52:32just the massive size of. It OK now you you watched it
- 1:52:36for? About how long?
- 1:52:38Would you say? Probably from the time the
- 1:52:41disturbance until it went back down, maybe 8 minutes 10.
- 1:52:47Minutes, 8 to 10 minutes, OK. And you told me the last time we
- 1:52:50talked about a year ago, that when it first came up, it was
- 1:52:54looking different directions. It was looking around.
- 1:52:56When it came up, it was facing the spray OK to me.
- 1:53:00And when it came up out of the water and then it looked around
- 1:53:04and when I did take the one snapshot, it was getting
- 1:53:08fidgety, it was getting a little more movement to it and it had
- 1:53:13turned its head to look over its back.
- 1:53:16And that's when I got the snapshot.
- 1:53:18And then it turned and then it went down and it started going
- 1:53:22down like this. And then it put its head down
- 1:53:24under the water. After it was completely under
- 1:53:27the water, I heard a boat coming.
- 1:53:29I heard about never, didn't even see the boat, but I heard it
- 1:53:32coming. It knew that boat was coming
- 1:53:35long before my sense of hearing picked it.
- 1:53:37Up. A lot of people I've interviewed
- 1:53:39have told me that, like the ones in Africa, the dinosaurs in
- 1:53:41Africa, they'll the natives claim they have very sensitive
- 1:53:44hearing and they'll hear you coming and duck under the water.
- 1:53:47I've got missionary friends over there that say there are
- 1:53:49dinosaurs in that swamp. Absolutely, I'm sure of it.
- 1:53:54God created one. He created many, Sure.
- 1:53:58And this is something that has to be of creation.
- 1:54:04It's not. It's not something that could
- 1:54:05have come from the eel or any of that nonsense.
- 1:54:08And you've got to say, why don't you create many?
- 1:54:10Sure. Right now your your picture has
- 1:54:13as well as being on the cover of Joseph's book has been in a
- 1:54:16number of places. It was in Time magazine, the
- 1:54:19July 81. I think you were on Unsolved
- 1:54:22Mysteries. Did you say this last week or?
- 1:54:24Unsolved Mysteries. That's been shown three times.
- 1:54:28First was in September last year and then.
- 1:54:32Maybe September 92. Right.
- 1:54:34And then recently about a week or so ago, they.
- 1:54:39Had a OK, so you're a movie star now.
- 1:54:45Well, there are those who teach that evolution is a proven fact.
- 1:54:49The dinosaurs lived millions of years ago.
- 1:54:51I have as you know. Am very different.
- 1:54:53I was a scientist, scientist for 15 years.
- 1:54:56I'm of a strong, studied opinion that a few dinosaurs are even
- 1:54:59still alive. The world isn't millions of
- 1:55:01years old. And would you say that what you
- 1:55:03saw was best described as being a dinosaur of some kind?
- 1:55:07Water dwelling? I saw a.
- 1:55:08Dinosaur. You felt like you were seeing a
- 1:55:10dinosaur. Right.
- 1:55:11I know. I felt.
- 1:55:13I know. You know, OK.
- 1:55:14I saw a. Dinosaur.
- 1:55:16Now the question comes to some people's mind.
- 1:55:18Why did you only take one picture?
- 1:55:22Because I didn't want to miss anything.
- 1:55:24Busy watching it, I was. Busy watching it.
- 1:55:26I brought the camera. I took the one photograph and
- 1:55:29then I put it down because I didn't want to miss anything.
- 1:55:32I was in so such a total awe of what was happening and I don't
- 1:55:37even know why I took the one. It was just instant.
- 1:55:39My husband handed me the camera. He had gone after the camera
- 1:55:42and. After the camera, take pictures
- 1:55:43of the children. OK, before it surfaced, we.
- 1:55:45Didn't even know anything was going on until he got back
- 1:55:48there. Sure.
- 1:55:49And he helped me up the banking and he handed me the camera.
- 1:55:52So he helped me up the banking and I had it.
- 1:55:54My knees gave out. I I was shaking and I went down
- 1:55:57on my knees. I picked the camera up.
- 1:55:59I took the one photograph and then put it down.
- 1:56:02I had it both out. You.
- 1:56:04Could have taken 20 figures. Oh, absolutely.
- 1:56:07But I wanted to watch it and I was.
- 1:56:09And your mind tries to rationalize, and I'm trying to
- 1:56:13think, well, what is this? And there comes a point when you
- 1:56:17cannot rationalize. You just stand there and off.
- 1:56:21Well, great. Anything else?
- 1:56:23Any typical questions you get asked or most of the people that
- 1:56:25interview you are those who believe in evolution and how do
- 1:56:30you feel about that? You don't like that?
- 1:56:33I agree with you 100% and I appreciate you letting me use
- 1:56:36your picture. I put it on one of my posters
- 1:56:39and I have quite a few pictures from different people and my
- 1:56:41motive is to strengthen people's faith in the Bible.
- 1:56:44The Bible is the word of God and there's Sandy's picture.
- 1:56:47You've been featured in a number of shows and magazines and
- 1:56:50things like that. You're just you've lived here
- 1:56:52how long in in Winchester? About 20 years. 20 years?
- 1:56:56So you had no intention of trying to become a celebrity by
- 1:56:59photographing champs? Now, as a matter of fact, I
- 1:57:01really didn't even want to publish.
- 1:57:02I kept it a secret for 20 years, and then I made them keep it in
- 1:57:06the scientific world. And I was I was forced by the
- 1:57:10media to publish because they were calling.
- 1:57:13Well, if this exists, why haven't we seen it?
- 1:57:16And. Sportster.
- 1:57:18And that's why I had to. I put a copyright on so that I
- 1:57:22could.