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The OG of The OC, Vicki Gunvalson · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, my little uh housewive lovers.
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  Speaker 2: We're on that same boat together today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm super hyped because we have Vicky gumboleson.
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  Speaker 2: On the podcast. A drum roll. You had to warm
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  Speaker 2: up the tongue first.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Should I try it again? We have.
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  Speaker 4: Joy to the world.
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  Speaker 2: Vicky Gunbulson, the o G of the O C. Easton.
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  Speaker 2: Are you like when I told you, well, actually I
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  Speaker 2: know this.
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  Speaker 1: When I said I said that, you said we have
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  Speaker 1: Vicky gung Wolson on the podcast. So my mom asked,
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  Speaker 1: who do you have on the podcast tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: Vicky Gumbles. I said, I.
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  Speaker 3: Say, what now, I'm getting it together, I said, I'm learning.
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  Speaker 1: You're scrawny ass in your house right now and get
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  Speaker 1: to watching Real Housewives of Orange County OG episodes And
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  Speaker 1: did you Easton?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? And can I say I'm very happy I did
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  Speaker 2: iconic right.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. I love the way they were filmed back then.
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  Speaker 1: It's just wild. It's like you're a fly on the
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  Speaker 1: while watching home videos. For those of you who are
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  Speaker 1: just listening, I know the video of this episode is
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  Speaker 1: going to drop on Friday, but you will hear baby
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  Speaker 1: Sosa on the mic. She's she's ready to move man.
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  Speaker 1: She's sick of like being a baby.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to get those Michelin legs moving.
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  Speaker 3: Oh she just split up, yummy. Well, she didn't like
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  Speaker 3: me talking about Michelin.
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  Speaker 1: She also has like a two pay moment happening because
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  Speaker 1: she moves her head back and forth very quickly. She's
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  Speaker 1: not like she's talking about Yes, she's so darling. I
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  Speaker 1: will hand her off when we start the Vicki h
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  Speaker 1: the Vicki Interview. Move on out of here, because Vicky
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  Speaker 1: is all about her business. She has no time you
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  Speaker 1: just sit around and baby or baby. She's got insurance
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  Speaker 1: to sell. I'm excited for you guys to hear this
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  Speaker 1: interview because the og of the OC is alive.
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  Speaker 3: And well yep, and she's given notes.
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  Speaker 2: She's giving notes about insurance and how you pay taxes
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  Speaker 2: and taxes. Thank you Easton, get your pencils out.
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  Speaker 1: But also like spreading some other knowledge about other housewives,
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  Speaker 1: which T T T. I've been thirsty for some tea
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  Speaker 1: because you know, I've been out of the mix. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in this like mom Era, which is hell of fun.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also fun to sip some tea. I love you,
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  Speaker 2: I love a good Cama Mill.
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  Speaker 1: So we do have Vicky on the pod, and then
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  Speaker 1: next week on our bonus episode, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about iconic moments from the Real Housewives of Orange County.
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  Speaker 1: I can't freakin' wait, so I won't make you guys
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  Speaker 1: wait any longer. You guys, Here is my interview with
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  Speaker 1: the og of the OC, Vicky gun wulsin Hi Gorge High.
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  Speaker 4: Honey, I used to be the Queen of Bravo, but
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  Speaker 4: my crown got off and got a little tilted.
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  Speaker 1: So I think you're still the Queen of Bravo. And
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  Speaker 1: you got that award at Bravo Con.
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  Speaker 4: That was cool. That was really very emotional for me
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  Speaker 4: because I was not expecting it to be so emotional.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I did my speech and everything like two
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  Speaker 4: minutes before I went up and and I was so
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  Speaker 4: grateful and thankful, but it was. It was emotional because
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  Speaker 4: I was like, is this my goodbye tour or is
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  Speaker 4: this starting another adventure? I didn't. I didn't really know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I watched something on Hulu and it
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  Speaker 1: was Megan King, who was on Real Housewives of OC,
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  Speaker 1: and she said that reality TV is kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a drug, and that was I mean, I've never done drugs. However,
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  Speaker 1: if you if you compared it to like a buzz
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  Speaker 1: with alcohol, totally get it.
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  Speaker 2: Is that how you feel?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? So my manager at the time, years ago out
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  Speaker 4: in New York said, fame is like a drug and
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  Speaker 4: you want more of it even though you know it's
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  Speaker 4: bad for you. So that's how I correlated. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you and I have gone through hell. I'm back doing
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  Speaker 4: reality TV, but I correlate that because I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: I loved doing it until I didn't until then it
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  Speaker 4: was become toxic, and then you go back to loving
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  Speaker 4: it again and it was as yo yo, I was
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  Speaker 4: only good as the last episode and then now, how
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  Speaker 4: did it going to turn out?
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  Speaker 2: I relate to that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you said, you're only as good as
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  Speaker 1: your last moment on TV. Do you feel like your
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  Speaker 1: last moment on TV? Do you feel like you went
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  Speaker 1: out with a bang? Or do you wish that you
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  Speaker 1: could have changed things?
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  Speaker 4: I never really knew that my last time filming was
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  Speaker 4: going to be my last time. I think this is
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  Speaker 4: my first season that I haven't gotten the phone call
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  Speaker 4: saying come back as a friend or come back as
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  Speaker 4: a part timer. So I guess that's my new normal.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm not friends with Tammer anymore, which is fine,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm friends with everybody else, so that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you guys can repair?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: You know what. I relate to relationships as birds of
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  Speaker 4: a feather flat together. So if you are a kind
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  Speaker 4: person and a loving person and want the best for
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  Speaker 4: other people, you can hang with them even though there's
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  Speaker 4: a fight. But when you see situations that I've seen
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  Speaker 4: for the last two years of how she treats people,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't me, it was other people. I was only
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  Speaker 4: going to be next, so you know, it's a target
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  Speaker 4: that she goes after, and that's her quote unquote reality
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  Speaker 4: of how she's going to be a villain on these shows.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be around it. It's toxic, it's angry,
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  Speaker 4: it's swearing, it's calling people to see where. It's gross
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  Speaker 4: to me and I have a respectful business of thirty
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  Speaker 4: five years. I mean, some of my clients have come
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  Speaker 4: in here and said, are you friends with that camera?
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  Speaker 4: And now I can say no, because before I was
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  Speaker 4: defending her. Oh it's just TV. But people can see
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  Speaker 4: through that, like is that her heart? And is that
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  Speaker 4: who she really is? And she doesn't have to worry
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  Speaker 4: about it. She's getting paid a lot of money to
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  Speaker 4: do with that. I have a business that I have
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  Speaker 4: to go to every single day, regardless of my filming
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  Speaker 4: reality TV show. And I don't want to ever say.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, she's my best friend. We hang out together,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah she calls people to see where and yeah
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  Speaker 4: she's throwing nap ins and people's faces, And I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to I don't want to be around. My daughter
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  Speaker 4: was like, Mom, what you're doing. You're embarrassing yourself, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I didn't do it. I was a
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  Speaker 4: victim of it, or I was in on it, or
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  Speaker 4: it's just too it's too much angry, And I Lala,
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  Speaker 4: we have a big life, like you and I and
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  Speaker 4: your brother, anybody that's been on a show for as
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  Speaker 4: long as I have, you have you really you take
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  Speaker 4: that the good and the bad. But she's the only
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  Speaker 4: person that I that I don't want to film with,
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  Speaker 4: Like I've filmed with others and we've gotten a fight
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  Speaker 4: and we recover, but she just doesn't. And then all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, she's back. At the next episode, she's like, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not good, it's not well.
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  Speaker 4: But so that's the decision I made. She never got
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  Speaker 4: mad at me, we never got in a fight, but
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  Speaker 4: the way she treated Shannon last year after her DUI
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  Speaker 4: was disgusting and Shan's my friend and I just had
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  Speaker 4: to make a stance for.
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  Speaker 1: Who I want to hang with, right And I think Tamra,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think many people enjoy watching her because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the drill. Even though someone people hate watch,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they do. They they love to see, they
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  Speaker 1: love to see chaos. It takes them out of their
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  Speaker 1: norm and their reality, and it gives them something to
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  Speaker 1: go back and forth about online. And I just wonder,
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  Speaker 1: like when you first signed on to this show, it
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  Speaker 1: was totally different. It was just I mean, and you
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  Speaker 1: were one of the only house well you were the
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  Speaker 1: first housewife ever and you actually went.
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  Speaker 2: To a job every single day.
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  Speaker 1: Ye what was it like having that and then going Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna open my life to cameras.
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  Speaker 2: Were you scared?
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  Speaker 4: Of course? And we only say four weeks and it
• 8:01
  Speaker 4: was with a handicamp. So this is nineteen years ago
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  Speaker 4: when you weren't even born yet. So you gotta think
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  Speaker 4: like I was forty two and I'm going to be
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  Speaker 4: fourty three at the time, I'm sixty two. Now it sucks.
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  Speaker 4: Do you not want to be sixty I'm just I
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  Speaker 4: do not want to be sixty two, But it's happening,
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  Speaker 4: like hello, are you sure that driver's license number is
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  Speaker 4: the same with my president? It sucks because it goes
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  Speaker 4: lick at his flit so fast. But two decades I
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  Speaker 4: was on, and then season three she came on and
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  Speaker 4: we became buzzy wudsy until all of a sudden, I
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  Speaker 4: saw her like throw the wine in Ginikio's face, who
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  Speaker 4: was a friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: Now what if you say that this is a cyst
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  Speaker 2: and deceased?
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  Speaker 4: Like she don't want to speak. So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: what is on here? So I took my producers sid
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  Speaker 4: I said, what's going on? He was just go with it,
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  Speaker 4: like do your normal reaction, like was she set up
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  Speaker 4: to do this? Or what is going on? This is
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  Speaker 4: not my show? And it just spiraled. I think when
• 8:59
  Speaker 4: Teresa flipped the and all the other housewives came on
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  Speaker 4: and I created a show about showing our lifestyle being
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  Speaker 4: a mother, cooking dinner at night, raising my kids, going
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  Speaker 4: through a marriage that was going to be and eventually
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  Speaker 4: divorced and all the reality, and then me working in
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  Speaker 4: juggling and me in the limo, you know, typing away
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  Speaker 4: selling insurance online because I had to keep the lights
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  Speaker 4: on and work. There was no podcast in social media
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  Speaker 4: at the time. So I saw the evolution of this
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  Speaker 4: the whole franchise of all the Housewives shows. It was
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  Speaker 4: like they had to step it up, one more step
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  Speaker 4: up another, Like who's getting the most writing is the
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  Speaker 4: ones that are fighting, And I'm like, that's not me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't fight with people. If you want to fight
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  Speaker 4: with me, I'm probably going to exit out. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not shy of fighting, but I don't go into
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  Speaker 4: an episode going, Okay, I'm going to call her out
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  Speaker 4: on this. I don't give a shit who she's dating.
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  Speaker 4: I don't give a shit who everybody's doing. But she
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  Speaker 4: wants to like dig into people's personal lives and maybe
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: they don't want that, Auntie, So I'm sure she could
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: find shit on me all day on or you or
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  Speaker 4: you or anybody. I don't That's not what I wanted
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  Speaker 4: this show to be.
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  Speaker 1: About, right because I so I'm I do this thing
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  Speaker 1: where I go back and I east and knows, I
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: go back and watch old school episodes of the franchise
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  Speaker 1: and right now I'm on OC And that was before
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Gretchen was even announced. So I just happened to do this,
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: and now you know, everyone's very excited going back watching
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  Speaker 1: old episodes, and I just I loved the drama was
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: so different. It was about like your son getting a tattoo,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: not your son, right, just right, you know the storylines and.
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  Speaker 2: Then you know, you guys exactly. It was so lighthearted.
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  Speaker 2: Well it was real life and not forced like less produced.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, in my opinion, because you've been on my TV
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  Speaker 3: for the past, yeah, just because that's all this one
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  Speaker 3: watches is just housewives, So she's you've been on the TV.
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  Speaker 3: But like seeing the production then and now, it seems
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  Speaker 3: like it was so free flowing and just happy and
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: it was about your life and now it's the way
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  Speaker 3: it looks and even with you the way when I've
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: been on there, Like, so this is.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: What we're gonna kind of steer towards.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Talking, right, they give you a little bit of direction,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like we're talking about your sobriety and
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  Speaker 1: and I get that, and I love a produced show,
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  Speaker 1: but there was something very special about watching you go
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: into the office and do your interviews day of on site.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know, And I didn't have hair and
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  Speaker 4: makeup at the time look like it. But I didn't
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: have Oh, Easton, You're so cute, and I didn't have,
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: you know, a wardrobe person. It was like, you want
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: to come and fill me. And they'd say, like, what
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  Speaker 4: are you doing this week? I'm like, I'm working, Like
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  Speaker 4: what do you mean what am I doing? I'm working
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: and I'm taking brand to the prom or I'm picking
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: up Michael from school. Like, no, I'm working. So that's
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  Speaker 4: what I thought this was going to be about. Now
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  Speaker 4: when Kathleen French, I don't know if you know, Kathleen
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  Speaker 4: French used to sit as down and say what she
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  Speaker 4: got going on for the next year, I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just gonna be living life. I'm going to be going
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: to the river, I'm going to go to work, and
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  Speaker 4: then I'm gonna film a reality show. And I have
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  Speaker 4: no idea what my reality is. I had no idea
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  Speaker 4: my mom was gonna die while I was filming on
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  Speaker 4: set at Shannon's house and They held that back for
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: an hour and a half when my daughter kept trying
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  Speaker 4: to call me. Nana died. Nana died. My mom was
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: perfectly healthy, and you know, they shocked me with that shit.
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  Speaker 4: So how can I ever say to Kathleen French, Well,
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  Speaker 4: this season, I'm going to get a divorce and my
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  Speaker 4: Mom's gonna die while I'm filming.
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  Speaker 2: No, can I tell you? Vicky?
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  Speaker 1: Still, to this day, that scene of you getting that
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  Speaker 1: call is the most gut wrenching thing that I have
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  Speaker 1: ever watched in my life.
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  Speaker 4: It was and I still like my mom. We just
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  Speaker 4: celebrated ten years yesterday. My mom was an incredible mother.
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  Speaker 4: She was never sick. She got her hair downe that morning,
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: gets her nails done, she bowled you play bridge. She's
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  Speaker 4: very active, She's like perfectly healthy. She never took medicine.
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  Speaker 4: And I talked to her. I'm like, I'm going to Shannon,
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna play bunko. She goes, are you still hanging
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: around those girls? They're so nasty to you? And I'm like,
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: everything's fine, We're gonna be protective. Mama a home, and
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: then I got the call. She died. She lived on
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: her bed and died. We have no idea why or how.
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  Speaker 4: So those things happened when you're filming a reality show.
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  Speaker 4: And I never knew obviously she was gonna die, but
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  Speaker 4: we're all gonna die, but it was those are the
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  Speaker 4: things that are real. And I don't I don't understand
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  Speaker 4: now why the show has to got It's gotten so dirty,
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: it's so mean, and I don't know. Now they're going
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  Speaker 4: to sit with the girls this season is just starting
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  Speaker 4: and saying what is going to be filming about this year. Well,
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna shann't get a dui. She had no idea,
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  Speaker 4: you know, So it's just got.
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  Speaker 2: Life happens.
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  Speaker 4: It got really weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does get weird, and then you're living in
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  Speaker 1: this reality and you kind of work through things, and
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: then it's for everyone to then go and judge and
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: see their interpretation on and edited cut. And I can
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: understand where there may be a part of you that's
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: like I'm I'm okay that I'm not in the mix
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  Speaker 1: like that anymore, because it's not like you need the paycheck,
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  Speaker 1: like you got a real you got a real life career.
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  Speaker 4: I do need the paycheck, but you know the numbers
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  Speaker 4: that I was getting was very large. But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: everybody more.
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  Speaker 2: Money, the better, right, So it's of course, God.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't quit my real job because a lot of
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: times they would say, you can't do both. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you're filming my reality. I'm the world, the one that
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: works in saves and doesn't excel spreadsheet every time I
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: get paid, so I pay state in federal that day
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: and the other girls are like, oh my god, I
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: owe so much money. I'm like, what'd you do when
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  Speaker 4: you were getting it? Didn't you pay that day for
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  Speaker 4: an income? And so I would try to teach them
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  Speaker 4: a little class about paying the taxes you get the
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  Speaker 4: day you get paid, and it's not your money half if.
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  Speaker 2: It's cool exactly, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I the first thing when I started making, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my little pennies and collecting them as I brought on
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  Speaker 1: a business manager, and that that was always so strange
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  Speaker 1: to me because he's like, this is the amount, but
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: remember we're taking this much away and come away with
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  Speaker 1: my taxes half away.
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  Speaker 2: Why insurance? What drew you to insurance?
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  Speaker 4: While I was twenty eight at the time and I
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: was getting divorced with my first husband, I have Michael
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  Speaker 4: and Brannon with my first husband, and my girlfriend sold
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: me a life insurance policy and Mike, my first husband.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, how much did you make? She's like
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  Speaker 4: six hundred dollars. I'm like, you signed a couple of papers,
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: and I signed a couple of papers and you made
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: six hundred dollars. And I got to work at my
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: dad's construction company. I was doing his accounts, payable and receivable.
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  Speaker 2: Were you where was this Illinois state? Illinois?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so you know, like bearing to Illinois. So
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: when I asked Laura, like, what do you have to
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  Speaker 4: do to do this? Like I can sign papers all
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  Speaker 4: day long, I'll work during the day from my dad
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  Speaker 4: and then I'll sell insurance at night. And she's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I can go get licensed. So you take a class
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: online or you go to a school and you take
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: a test and you pass the test, which I did.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: And then her company that she was working for at
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: the time was Western Southern Life Insurance in Elmhurst, Illinois,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: and it was a debit business and they had all
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: men and they sat at these desks and you would
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: go out in the field and then come back with
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: your applications and you'd go to the whiteboard and you'd
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: write how many you wrote for the week. I'm like,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'm going to stand bag them. I'm not going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: tell everybody how much I sold for the week. And
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I had the territory of Cabrini Green. And if you
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: know Chicago, you don't want a territory of Cabrien Green. Okay,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: it's very dark and a white woman in a you know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: a nicer car. I was always afraid I was going
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: to come off, the wheels were going to be off,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: or I was going to be monger killed. So but
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: back then, we had pagers. We didn't even have cell phones.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: This is how old I was young I was, and
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: how old time and how fast time goes. So anyway,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: fast forward. I was really starting to get the hang
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: at this and I was in competition with all these
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: men who were fine making thirty thousand a year, and
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I had a babysitter paid for in my new condo
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: after I divorced my husband. I didn't get child sports.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, God, sell more than
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: these guys, and how are they supporting their families? Well,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: their glass stealing was low. They were good at thirty
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: thousand for the rest of their life. And I'm like, eh,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: that I'm going to make fifty thousand, and I'm going
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: to go out and buy a brand new car, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I'm going to show my boss, Mark Medicare that I
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: can do this. He's like, I pulled up in this car.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: He said, what are you doing? You can't afford this.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I said, watch me. You dressed for success always regardless. Okay,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: So I dressed for success by the car I was driving,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: by the driveways I pulled up in. I was selling insurance.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: There was no online selling. It was press hard, three copies,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I was like, this, this
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: is my career because I could be for my kids.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I quit my dad's construction accountspailable and receivable. I was
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: doing their payroll and stuff. And I was twenty eight.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: You guys have no clue how it's a that is
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: a baby a baby? And I had two kids, Yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: they were five and six at the time, and I
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: was like, no child support. My ex at the time
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: was working for my dad and he quit, so he's
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: never worked since. And so I went into insurance by
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: default because it was a way for me to support
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: my kids without I don't have a four year degree.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I've got a three year degree. I went into finance
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: and then I got my license, so once I could
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: do that, I went into this full speed. I got
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: all my continued educations, I went in all the tutorials,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I went into YouTube that would so everything I did
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: was learn, learn, learn, and learn, And thirty four years later,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: i'm it's not that I love it, it's an opportunity
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: for me to live the life I want, which is
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: very flexible. I have two houses in Porta Viata paid
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: for cash, amazing my house in Porta da Kasas. So
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I'm responsible by the way. Both of you save more
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: than you everythink you're going to ever have to say.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And I would recommend don't pay quarterlies. Pay the day
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: you get paid. Okay, I don't recommend quarterlies because now
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: you're getting you know, paid, and then you got to
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: pay this big chunk and it's been sitting in the
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: savings making nothing. It doesn't matter. Get it off the books.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: So get it off the books. Now you know what,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: you have a net.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: For the month or I do love that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: So don't. I don't push the irs in the state
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: because the IRS is if you're making you know over
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: three hundred and nine thousands, I'll get my turn out.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, educate as VICKI well, let me tell you. The
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: schools don't teach. They should be teaching.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: This you as your tat Stomary guide. We have the
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: new one that just came out for twenty twenty five.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: If you are single making more than from five over
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: one five hundred one thousand to seven hundred and fifty
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: one thousand, you're paying thirty five percent federal past our
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: state ten to twelve, So forty five percent of the
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: money goes away. It's not your money. You get ten
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars, forty five percent goes away four thousand, five
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: hundred that's your net. So it's fortunate enough to make
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: over seven hundred and fifty one thousand. Now you're paying
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: thirty seven so thirty seven percent of your portfolio or
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: your money goes away. I have never paid interest or
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: penalties to the IRS. Why because my dad told me
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: not to. So he's been dead for twenty years. I
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: never went to disappoint him, so I just paid up.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I love this.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I go on the FTV, the Federal Techs Board, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I go into the IRS, and I just suck it
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: out of my account?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Did we just all have mad knowledge dropped on us
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: school that I know, like you should be teaching a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: course because these are the things that they need to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: teach in school.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I tried to put my housewives girls, but they don't
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: listen to me.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You know what, though, I let that's very true. They
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: did not listen to you. They shall have.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: But so then I use my next season's paycheck to
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: pay these year's taxes and go, what the hell? What
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: if you don't get back?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna have a heart.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: No, it's crazy shit.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: No, but they got.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Now they're paying fifty five percent or sixty percent on
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the money that they made.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, did Michael ever stick with being an insurance
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: what do you call it?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: An insurer broker?
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: He's eighteen brokers? Yeah, he's my life insurance specials eighteen years.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: He's thirty nine. I know, I'm mold. And he graduated
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: eighteen from high school, twenty one to twenty two from college,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: and then he went out to try to find a
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: job and hime back and just like, can we talk him,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: like what happened to get you get a ticket?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: What happened he goes. I don't want to do the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: eight to six, go home, have dinner, work out, watch TV.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I don't want that life. I want the life that
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: you showed us, which was balance, right, work out in
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the morning if you want, work out at night, or
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: don't work out it all that day. And guess what.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I have houses in Mexico and I can go there
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: for five months. My clients don't even know him there
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: because I'm on zooms and I'm right, got staff that
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: handles things, and it's a life that I chose to live,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: which is not your typical eight to five, right. I mean,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I was here at the office last night to eleven
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: at night because I choose to be not because I
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: have to be right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You could right.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And I loved Michael and I forget what season, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: he was talking to his friends how he was going
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to go into he was gonna follow in his MoMA's footsteps,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and they were kind of like, why are you going
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to do that? And he said, if I can afford
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to buy a boat just by selling insurance, I'll sell insurance.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's just as simple as that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: No, he's just so just so smart and he so
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I hired like ten of his college friends. He graduated
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: University of calared Boulder, and I had a call center.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna teach you guys. This dial
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: for dollars. You just dial for dollars. Back in the day,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I had to drive around, knock on doors and do whatever,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: mailers and all the shit that we had to do
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: when we first started the business. So I'm like, here's
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: a list, dial for dollars. Whoever says yes they want
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: to meet with you, you have him come in the office,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: or you meet with them, or do it over the phone.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: So that lasted like a year. They were doing spitballs
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: and fart and all the shit. I'm like, okay, everybody's
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: fired except my son. So Michael's like, Mom, I really
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: need them all to go so I can concentrate. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I said, on your board in your office, I want
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: you to write down what your minimum goal is to
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: sell policies. So let's say he wanted to sell ten
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: policies a month or twenty whatever the number is. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: you don't end that month until you do all ten
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: policies or by the premium, and then if you're short,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you've fallen into the next month. Okay, so let's say
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: you wanted to write five thousand dollars in premium. So
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: one month he wrote for he's got to move that
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: thousand over, son, I's got to write six thousand six months.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: And he said, I never fell behind because I never
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: wanted to roll it over. I mean he's making he's
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: over three hundred thousand, and he's in Spain right now,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: working remote. He travels the world. He's loving life.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So he's not married, doesn't have kids, no joy his life.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: It's tried the relationship things, and it's gone well until
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of the girls he's stated have their handout
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: and they want to be taken care of, and from
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: a mama that works. His sister works, My sister were workers.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: We just work. We don't look for a handout, right
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: or wrong, We just don't.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But how interesting, though, because I think that some men
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: have come to you looking for a handout.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, would you say that?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Of course? Good good, good analysis. And I always thought
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I can do this because many times men take care
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: of women. Why can't I take care of my man?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, nothing wrong with it at all.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: It's like whoever can do it. Let's just do it
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and enjoy life together. My current boyfriend, he's one hundred
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: percent independent. I wrote down eighteen things that I needed.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Independent entrepreneur, not a nine to five allah, non smoker,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: non drinker, you know all that shit. So it worked
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: because I manifested him. But also I wanted to be
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the one that I didn't think they'd ever leave me
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: because I was. I was a bread winner. I was
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: taken care of them, and I don't want to be left.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I have fear of being alone.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, is that abandonment issues?
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Probably? Okay, I just don't like being alone. I want
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a partner.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: You want companionship.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: But your boyfriend now lives in a different state, in
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a different state, ish, so oh.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Go to work out for too long? So he moved
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: to Arizona. He's the developer and last weekend he was
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: home and he's like, I don't think it's going to work.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I go what because being a part I don't like it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, So I had to let him go
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: do it because I want to control him and all that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: So he's moving back.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I love that because you got mood. Will he live
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: with you?
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: He has been Yeah, he has been for two years.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for you because I feel like
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: your heart is always in the right place from what
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I've what I've seen, and when you and I talk,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: your heart's always in the right place. So if you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: could talk about the from the days of dawn to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: let's let's count the guy you're with now out and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: who was the last night?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: So it was Brooks and Steve. So so Mike is
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: now okay, my first husband. So I was married for
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: thirty years. So I was married to Mike for nine
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: and Don for twenty ish. Don and I would have
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: never gotten divorced if we if I wasn't on a
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: reality show. I know that to be true. So I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: love marriage. I love being together. We both went sideways
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: for a lot of reasons. Yeah, books, I wanted to
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: take care of He was from Mississippi. He had bad teeth,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: he had stupid clothes. I'm like, come on to California.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go take you to Bloomingdale's and north Stum's
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: and Saxoonore, gonna get you all the wardrobe and get
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: out of the clock crack.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: He was your project.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: He was in my project that I had to get
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: him a car and kind of do all this shit
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: for him. So I did. I got a Marine droverer.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: He fit into Orange County very good, and you know
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: how that went. So that didn't work. Five years of
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: wasted my life. And then I met Steve, who's a narcissist.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what a narcissist was until you're with one,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: and then you go through the therapy and the trauma
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: bonding and all that stuff. So that sucked. He left
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: me for a thirty five year old.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, well.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: He's sleeping with me. He was banging this bimbo school
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: teacher that she met him at a bar. She said
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: he was rich and famous. He's neither one.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So out of those three, Dawn Brooks and Steve, who
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: did the biggest number on you and would say like that,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that one was the hardest to recover.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Brooks okay, you know, because he claimed he had cancer
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and I was supporting him and supporting him and supporting him,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: and I was going to work every day and Meghan
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: King Edmunds decided to ask for his medical records. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's true or not, but he wasn't
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: going to produce him and then they said he led
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: up cancer.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, how do you feel about Meghan?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I want nothing to do with her?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, you want nothing to do with her?
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Okayro She wasn't smart enough to know this is just
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: a reality show. You don't hurt people's lives. But because
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I'm a fiduciary, and because I'm with the National Ethics gurou,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: you can't go after me and say I faked cancer
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: because I ensure people, right, So what type of ethics
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: do I have if I'm lying to the public saying
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: that my boyfriend has cancer and he doesn't. So it
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: was just an icky thing and it was a horrible experience,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and she wasn't smart enough to say, you know what,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: this this is a TV show and I'm not going
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: to hurt VICKI.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I understand that taking Megan out of it. Were there
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: moments behind those doors that you had with Brooks where
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you had a feeling You're like, something is fishy, Like
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: please tell me if this is real or not?
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he would say, of course it's real. I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: just not exposing my medical records.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: That's when he would make it make sense.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, you know what, you have
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: that right. You're not getting paid to do this show.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: You don't have to show me or anybody. Don't don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: do it. If you're not comfortable with it, don't do it.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: So it made sense to me, and I just I'm like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I love you, I believe you. Why wouldn't I believe him?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Why would somebody ever lie to me about can't.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Sold about something like that? Right, it's almost unfathomable. Do
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you even know where he is now?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: He's in Florida or Mississippi. Got married right away, so
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: does Steve? Married right away? Both of them?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, You're like, good luck, Chuck, your luck
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: shot them and then they go.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, girl, what are you thinking?
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: So yeah, there we go.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Did you watch last season of Oh See?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Really? I mean I watch it with my you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: like this is boring me and I and it's so scripted,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: typical of what Tamra was going to do the whole season.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: And I'm just disgusted by her because she at one
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: time was a really good friend of mine and she.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Nut I do miss that friendship. I missed the trace amigas.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I really miss me some Vi.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: And Shannon and I are still friends. It's just too
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: bad that she couldn't just be kind, you know, she
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: don't stand that walk stuff. And then she wants in
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: a oh, I'm sorry, I love you. No, you don't
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: you hurt me like you don't. This is a this
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: is a TV show girl. I'll just keep staying your lane. Right.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: How did you feel about Alexis Billino? Are you guys friends?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: No, she's a bimbo.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: No, no, but I so I was in Palm Springs,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: VICKI and my mom told me. We're eating at this
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: restaurant downtown Palm Springs and I see Jim walk by
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and I say to my mom, you know Alexis. That's
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: her ex husband, and she goes, well, you know, he
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: has a rest here. And I was like, oh, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: wonder what it's called. And I like look up at
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the sign and I'm like and she goes, what's his name?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I said, his name's Jim. Jim What Jim Blino? We're here,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Jimmy be So he comes up. He was so kind
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, if you don't know me,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I'm Alexis Billino's ex husband. And I was like, yo,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: trust me, I know all about it, he goes, Wow,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: what a shit show. She definitely made me look much
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: better though, so even he had some thoughts.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't get mad that I'm I'm talking
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: But you know, Jim's good guy. Jim's I mean, I've
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: known him loosely, but you know, he's never done anything
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: wrong with me, and he's a good guy. But I
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: think he still supports Alexis, crazy as that is. Really,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: she's got three kids, ones in college. I think two
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: are approaching graduating.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think that Johnny Jay and Alexis. I don't
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: think it will last because I think there was a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: high for them.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: They're not gonna get married.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: No, they were like bonding over this TV show. Now
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: no one gives a shit. They had their moment last season,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, it was so embarrassing to watch that
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: whole thing, and Shannon was just like off tear Chef's cause.
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  Speaker 4: She did great. I was really proud of her, but
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: you know, there's the door, shut the door.
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  Speaker 2: It's like so stupid.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Script that and then she then production said yeah they did,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: she did stay it in the car. How many times
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: am I going to say that before it sounds right,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: like Bimbo. She didn't last, right, she was a friend.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: She didn't last. She's done.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: What's happening with Gretchen?
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: So I like Gretchen. I'm happy for It's bizarre. She
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: hasn't been on for like, I don't know, nine, ten,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: eleven years. She hasn't been out the long time.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Does she have an does she have an orange or
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: is she just a friend of.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: The friend of She has a daughter, Skyler, beautiful Skyler.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: She's been with Slade now like fifteen years.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I know because he dated Lauri and Joe when we
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: first started Slaying and I started a long long time ago.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Slay went through the ringer and Tamra did it to
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: him and it was humiliating, embarrassing. And I think Gretchen
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: has some paybacks to her, Like, you know, she's going
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: to have an opinion on how really Tamra treated Slave.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be good.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're still together, going strong. They're like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the Bravo version of Headie and Spencer Pratt. No one
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: thought it would work. It seemed one way, but it
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: ended up being fabulous.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: It did.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: My last question for you before I let you go
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: enjoy your day.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I'm going to l A. Are you guys in La.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: We're in La. We're happy to have you here.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Well, and you want Doug Beuten's cooking kibbets a couple hours.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That's going to be so fun. Yeah, a heyday.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I have actually two questions for you three. Would you
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: ever go back to Real Housewives of Orange County?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Of course with an Orange?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: With an Orange? No, friend of business.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: You don't know what's going on. You don't know what's
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I've got up here at a dinner scene and Tampas
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: calling Shannon a con. I'm like, what what just happened? What?
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: It was very difficult for me.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: No. I watched it in your face and you cried.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: You were like, this is not what we do to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: each other. You could tell that you were somewhat in
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: a different headspace than when we last saw you.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: The other question is what was the best thing to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: come out of doing Real Housewives of OC meeting you?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: So I just feel the relationships that came from it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: And also I was always very insecure. I didn't like
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: the public speak. I do speeches now all the time
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: for my work, retirement planning seminars, I can go on
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: a TV show, I'm not nervous. I think the confidence
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: that it brings to you think.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It brought a completely different type of confidence because you
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: almost have to fake it until you make it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Like you said, you dress for success.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I did when I would be
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: on camera because I was very intimidated by just life
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and not everyone would say, you're so confident. I'm like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I am the least confident person on the planet. But
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: if I show that, this world will break me down, right, So, yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. It does bring confidence. Is there
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: one thing that you look at and you're like, this
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: was the worst thing to come out of signing up
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: for that show?
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: My divorce. Probably my divorce. I divorced a good guy
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: and that was that I regret. And I even tell
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: my daughter last night. I was talking to Brianna and
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: she's really close with Dan. I said, you know what
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: if I could do a redo and this was twelve
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: years ago, and she goes, you still think about it?
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I said, yeah, because I broke up the family's dynamic,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: you know. And he wasn't third father because I was
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: married first to Mike. The debut Dad and then came
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: in three years later. But I still feel the show
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: definitely changed me. It changed us because I was traveling.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: We never spoke on the phone. He was traveling with work.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: We were just going two different directions. We were an
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: intimate at all. I was like, what in the hell
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: am I doing here? I'm in my early fifties and
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I'm miserable. So I think that that is my biggest regret.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: That breaks my heart because I am watching the episodes
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: where you're with Dawn and he. I really loved you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: guys together.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: We weren't good married, we're good people, like we would
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: do good and then we'd go home and then he'd
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: yell at me about something that I did. I'm like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't say that. He's like and yell. I don't
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: like yelling.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: You shut down.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I just get like, I walk out the room. I'm like,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I can't be yelled at. This is disgusting. I'm you
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: know of age, you don't yell at me. Right, So
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: then it was starting to get like so much tension
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Are you guys still friends?
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Ish?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Ish?
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: No, I would say, he's mad after you.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Wrote the check and divorced him. You were like, I'm good,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: he's good.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I know that was not it was not a good day,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: but I I care for him. I don't say we're
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say we're friends.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm happy that Brianna still talks to it. Yeah,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that's great. Before I release you, I want to make
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: sure that your your kids are good. It sounds like
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: your son is living the dream. But you have four
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: grand babies. I do.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I don't get to see very much. That's a sad part.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: They're in Oklahoma still. They moved out and they're super happy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: They got a beautiful farm. They got like three sheep
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: cow eighteen. They're just living their best life. And she
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: works full time and she's she's a perfect mom. She's
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: doing great.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Does she have four boys?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Three boys in my little Cora girl. She's going to
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: be three in a couple of weeks.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: So, and I love the name.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I'm really happy for you, VICKI. I'm happy that your
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: guys moving back. I'm happy that the family as well.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: You know, whether you're on our TVs in real time,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you will always be the most iconic housewive. You're a
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: household name. And I so enjoy going back and watching
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you and I'm thrilled you are on the podcast today and.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: We're going to put you on our podcast. My friend, myself,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: my podcast. So the reason why we named that was,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember the one episode I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: was yelling at camera and I said, you're supposed to
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: be my friend, my soulmate, my friend, and we named
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: the podcast after me yelling at her because she.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Was me to Mel's Definitely, I was not planning on
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: having my two children in studio and I want to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: give you my full attention when I do your podcast,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: so once I i'm solo, I will be there.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, we love you, I love you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I have the best day. Say travel lay bye. Bye
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the Give Them Lalla Podcast. I hope you enjoyed it
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: just as much as I did. Go out there, watch
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: some housewives.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: And I will catch you guys next week. Bye,