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Episode 366 - Is Resistance Futile? · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey, this
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is Scott Kelby and you're listening to tech Dunk Radio. Welcome to another episode
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of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, and we are the show.
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In case you're just tuning in you've never heard it before. We like to
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talk about computers, technology, and of course the Internet, gadgets and fun
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websites. And we've got a lot further than we had about twenty years ago.
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Yeah, we talked about that in our We didn't do a show last
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week because we were on a different podcast. Yeah, you were really well,
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which is cool. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. I think that
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makes its debut. It's the made a cast podcast about podcasting, and they
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wanted to talk to us, so all of us got together to do it,
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and I think it's going to be available next week or maybe the week
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after. And it was funny because none of my camera stuff worked. That's
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right here, we are a tech podcast coming to talk to you guys about
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our tech podcast. And I couldn't make any of my camera stuff work,
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and my microphone didn't work, and it was it was a hot mess express
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for a little bit. And you were the one got a good laugh about
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it that, yeah, you were the one, haven't And I think in
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most cases you are kind of and you have the best set up there.
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I mean I honestly think you have a better setup than I have. Yeah,
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I don't, you know, it's a it's so bizarre that it just
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nothing I did would work Chrome wouldn't. We used some sort of streaming website
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that I had never heard of before, and it just wouldn't recognize any of
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my USB devices. Yeah, it wouldn't recognize my microphones, it wouldn't recognize
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my uh my ATAM, my webcams anything. I did a reboot and then
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it would finally recognize the integrated I have an integrated camera on my Dell monitor.
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But then as soon as I switched over to my microphone, cut the
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video out. So yeah, it was really are So it was just kind
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of comical that here we are, this tech show podcast and the video guy
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doesn't have any video now, and it's funny because yeah, you are in
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the video business. I mean that's what you do. I mean you do
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a lot of video, but we're talking professional high quality four We do four
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K stuff, Yeah, we do four K stuff. It's broadcast level stuff.
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Right, It's just like this is what I do for fun on the
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side. For whatever it it just didn't work right. Yeah, and you
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know, the first question they asked is did you reboot it yet? Yeah?
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We all got a good laugh at it. So, yeah, they
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didn't do it without any video, but at least my microphone did it up
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working, so my audio sounded good. But anytime you call tech support,
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the first thing they're going to ask you did you reboot it? I mean,
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that's really that's really the number one troubleshooting step, right, is A,
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isn't plugged in? Yeah? B did you reboot it? Yeah?
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Those two things can solve most of the world's problems. The other the other
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question, is it on right? Is it plugged in? Is it tredn?
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Have you rebooted it? I've actually heard of calls to tech support where
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you know, people have called in. There may be new users, and
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if you're you're a new user and you're listening, don't feel bad about it.
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But they didn't know you had to actually turn the computer on to get
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something on your screen. Yeah. No, it's you'd think in a world
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where most people have grown up with technology, that. I don't know if
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it's just because I deal with technology on a daily basis, but yeah,
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there is a certain level of common knowledge that you would think people have about
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technology that's just not there with some people. And that's okay. It's funny
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though, because think about this, shun Um. You know, again,
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we've talked about this before. We've all most of us have gone through this
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route of DOS stays and Windows three point one and ninety eight and doing upgrades
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and hooking up, you know, running your DiscT in to get your booting
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off your DiscT and we've made it so much easier, whether it's a PC
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or a MAC. And it's gonna be made even easier now with all this
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AI stuff that they're throwing into our technology, our computers. I mean,
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you look at Office, how that has changed in the last year due to
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AI, what they're adding into it. And you know, honestly, if
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you ask me, I think chat GPT from open AI would have been a
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great office plug in that would have that would have been perfect if Microsoft would
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have automated some of the stuff on the back end. And yeah, to
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predict you know, yeah, I get you know, I'll write stuff,
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you know, three paragraphs along and I'll say, I'll put it into open
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AI and I'll say chat GPT and I'll say please. And that's the thing
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some people don't understand. It's all about rewarding it sometimes or reworking it.
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And I'll ask it, can you reward this for me? Just about?
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And it does a spell check in, it does all of that stuff.
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And it's been an incredible tool. But some people will call me an incredible
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tool because I'm embracing it, at least from that standpoint. Some are just
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a kind of a little fearful of it. But I think it's the same
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same thing. You know, people have been fearful of computers. When computers
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first came along. They were like, oh, I don't want to want
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to touch him. I don't want to use them. My former morning show
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partner, Barry did not love the idea of us going digital. When it
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came to our phone calls. It used to be at a radio station and
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like like this one, you know, play music in between. You would
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get a phone call and he would record it onto reel to reel, and
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in the time between that song and the second song ending, you would have
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to go back onto that reel and you would play it back through a Q
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speaker, find out where it began, cut it with a razor blade,
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tape it together, find point that it was out, and cut it again
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with a razor blade and put it together. We you know, rewind it
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back to the beginning point. So when you hit a button on that board,
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it would start that call. So that's how you did. But when
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they switched to what we call voxpro or shortcut or even you know some people
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record it with Adobe Audition or Audacity under their computers to play back phone calls.
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He did want everything to do with it. It was just as easy
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as it made it. It would made it more difficult because he had done
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it for so many years using tape. And I think a lot of people
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they are a little afraid of when it comes out. Think about fixing your
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car. Fixing your car you used to be able to do, you know,
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now you you you've got to have almost a degree and you know computer
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science to get under a car and fix it because all the computers are on
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board. Oh yeah, I mean it's it's weird because it's like if one
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piece of your car goes out, or you get into a small venderbender.
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You might have to replace six or seven computers. Yeah, and then you're
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total because the shortage of chips or you know, they can't find it.
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So it's like you're you're you're screwed. Yeah. During the pandemic, that's
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I think one of the reasons we saw the prices of cars and it's still
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really haven't come down too much, but we saw them just explode because couldn't
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get chips, couldn't get certain features. Some cars were going off the shelves,
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off the shelves they put up on a shelf. They were going out
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the door without some of the technology as a piece of it because they couldn't
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They just didn't have it. It wasn't there people by garage doors, just
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a garage door for your house, and they weren't able to utilize the features
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of that garage door because again, the chips were not available. Yeah,
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it's crazy to think about how a global supply chain like that can have such
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an impact on everyday things with just how everything is either IoT or connected or
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smart advice. It's just it's just wild. I just heard a story about
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uh, you know, and you think about it. We came out of
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this pandemic and things started to get to the normal. And now we have,
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you know, some strikes going on. There may be a labor strike
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with the folks that deliver all those packages, so you might have a hard
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time getting all your stuff. We live in such a weird world and it's
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it's it's changed. So, you know, it's changed so much in the
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last you know decade. Yeah, yeah, twenty years ago, twenty years
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you know. I was going through some old photos today. Yes, we
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were starting to reminisce back. You know, I graduated high school twenty years
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ago, man, which is crazy the thing, right, but it's like,
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what was the world like twenty years ago for me? Yeah? Right,
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I didn't the iPhone wasn't out. No, there were no smartphones.
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No, you had you did have computer and you had computers at school.
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Yeah, we had computers. Most of them were the you know, the
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Fruit Max Yeah for Max, the you know other Max. Uh, I
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don't remember what the Mac twos or Apple twos or whatever, and some other
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stuff, some other apples. And then we end up going to some some
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PCs I don't remember what they were. Round about was two thousand and four,
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I think it is two thousand and five is when you started to see
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that migration from MAC to PC in schools, Yeah, which we thought never
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would happen, because you know, it was it was main frames in the
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eighties when I went to school, and I mean my first computer was a
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Waiting I want to say thirty seven sixty, I can't remember the exact and
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that's how, you know, what I learned on. And then you've got
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these these Max in the classrooms, and then it was PC. Now a
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lot of the kids are a Chrome books. Yeah, you know, it's
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like Apple had this weird you know, Apple has always been big on education
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and giving educational you know, institutions good prices, right, But I think
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what happened was that the development of stuff outpaced on Windows. Yeah, where
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things that schools wanted to use and needed got outpaced on PC that it did
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an Apple, and Apple never really caught up because they wanted to do their
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own thing, yeah, right, with notes and keynotes and you know,
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garage band and all those types of things. Right. They wanted to build
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their own instead of adopting what everybody was able to get from an easier to
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more easier developed standpoint word. Obviously that's Microsoft, right, but other there
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wasn't as much open source, right, So either had Microsoft or at Apple.
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There wasn't a whole lot of in between. So yeah, you definitely
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saw that migration. But I think I think that minor had something to do
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with it. But I think what also happened is if you went out and
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you tried to buy a Mac. Let's face it, the Mac prices were
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still as they still are higher than a PC. Yeah, they're very powerful.
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You can do a lot with a Mac. I'm I'm a fan of
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Apple. But I think what you had as parents that we're looking going,
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okay, we gotta you know, our kids gotta study. They're gonna do
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this, they're gonna get exped Remember what was it? Um, what was
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the There was a and the Cyclopedia program that Microsoft in Carter, remember that
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or Encyclopedia Britannica. Yeah, they may they may have had some as well,
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but I remember in Carter was big from Microsoft, and you know,
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it was on a disk and you could, you know, you could look
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up things because not everybody had the Internet. And then, um, I
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think parents got to the point where they said, well, let's go to
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the cheaper out and buy the PC. And that's you know what they did.
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You could custom build a PC. You can say, well, I
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don't need it to do this. I wanted to do this, and even
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though you're spending thirty five hundred dollars on it, you got what you wanted,
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whereas a Mac Mac was priced four grand, and here's what you got.
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You know, you know, I wasn't you know, growing up.
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It's kind of weird because growing up I wasn't super into computers, right.
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I was more into doing you know, audio record You know, I did
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a lot of audio stuff in high school. But I wasn't super into building
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computers. So it wasn't until I got into college and after that I started
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really get into building computers. So it's it's hard for me to remember what
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my first computer was. I just remember we had a lot of Hewlett Packards
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machines, Compact, you know, Compact Presario or whatever it was. You
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don't forget the gateway. I don't think we ever had a gateway. You
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didn't have a gateway. Yeah. But you know, it's like, if
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if I was more into that stuff, then what would my career path looked
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like? Right? If I was more into building computers and strewn around with
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computers and that stuff back then, instead of riding dirbikes all time like it
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did grown up. Yeah, well think about this too. Okay, So
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you have a kid that's going through school or in high school, you know,
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some years ago, and they're building PCs, you know, they're they're
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actually doing really good at it. And they get out of high school they
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decide to pursue that in college and now they're engineers. They're they're they're right
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software. Maybe they have their own computer business. Um, and that could
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that could be really good. That was that was a good move. Now.
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One of the things that a lot of employers are looking for. They
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don't care if you know how to use word. I don't care if you
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don't know how to use Excel. They don't care if you can build a
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website with you know, WordPress. Now, um, they want to know
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if you know how to use AI. And they might not even understand it.
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But that's a lot of the employers are out there going are saying do
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you understand AI? Can you use it? Now? Some people have said,
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well this is kind of ridiculous. Why would I want to use AI
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in my company? Because then one day I'm going to be replaced. But
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if you master that skill of AI, there could be a benefit for you
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in that in that job as it continues to develop. It's they won't come
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for you. They won't come for you first. They probably will here I
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show you how to do my job here to generate machines so that when when
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they go sentient, they won't come for you. Oh, the sentience.
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Yeah, if this, if it goes some people don't know what sentient means.
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That means an AI driven technology eventually becomes self learning and realizes it doesn't
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need us. And you know, some people say that's stuff of science fiction
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movies. You know, just pull the plug. But it may not be
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as easy as that. Yeah. I run an article today that you know,
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all of these companies that are dumping tons and tons of money into AI
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right and they're not gonna they don't they don't want self regulation right now because
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there's such a gold mine to be had, right there's so much money to
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be made and whoever's going to come out at the forefront of AI that it's
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it's weird to see this huge, this huge race to be the top AI
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and how much money to people are dumping into it, and nobody really knows
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what the outcome was going to be. I was talking to Guy actually,
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who's our midday guy here on the station. We were talking about that,
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and we were talking about the implications of AI when it comes to photography.
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He's a great photographer. But also we were talking about AI when it comes
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to newscasts. He was a newscaster here in town and radio and you know,
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you're you tune into the radio to get maybe your favorite music. You
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want to know what's going on. We've talked about Raham Radio recently and well
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we've got a story about that too, But you tune in for that.
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If you have a DJ that's on the air that is talking like he is
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just announcing the name of a song and the year it came out, and
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goes into the song and it comes out of the song that was so and
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so. More music on the way from these three artists, it's not going
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to pique your interest. What piques my interest as a listener when I'm listening
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to radio or watching a newscast is the emotion. I want that emotional connection.
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If that if if it's one of the DJ's talking about something that they
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experienced, something that was kind of cool. Maybe whether it's time with their
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their family, it makes that emotional connection. This is my I've been my
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argument the whole time right about Ai. About AI is there's going to be
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no everything is going to eventually just be uh so statics, so sanitized,
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so emotionless, so brought of any sort of critical thought, or it's just
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gonna feel so it's gonna be on Candy Valley. I'll overget. You're gonna
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read something the whole time, feel right, Yeah, it's gonna you're gonna
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read You're this is weird, just doesn't feel right, and it's like,
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oh right by Ai. Hello, That's why I didn't feel right. Now,
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have you let me ask you if you checked out Synthasia? Yeah?
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No, okay for our listeners that want to check this out. This was
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brought up to my attention a couple of months ago. I had no idea
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that this exists. If you go on the web and you do a search
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for Synthasia and it's s Y N T H and then you can figure out
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the rest because I can't spell it, but see A. I would not
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tell you that I'm telling you the truth. But if you look at Synthasia.
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They have a very interesting concept. They're using ai ANTIEP fake technology.
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So what happens is you're going to do a presentation to maybe some investors,
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or maybe you want to put something on your website, but you don't want
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to go out and hire a video crew to come in and film an actor
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or an actress or a local talent to kind of present what it is that
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you're doing. So you go on to Synthasia and you pick who you want
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to deliver it this speech, and they've got you like a casting call,
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lots of video, different representations there, and then you pick the voice you'd
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like it in. I'd like this in an East German voice, or British
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voice, an Australian voice, or you know somebody from the Midwest or New
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York or an accent, and then you type out what they're going to say.
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So you type this out. Now, remember this is not like you're
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not looking at an animated figure like you would like a cartoon. You're looking
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at a video representation of a person. You're looking it looks like you are
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looking at a person, and when you type it out, it then takes
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what you're saying and converts it to it almost a deep fake technology on their
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mouth and it moves their mouth, Their eyes will move, their eyebrows will
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move, and it's the thing is, it's like just beginning. Can they
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make it better? I think they might be able to, But the thing
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is that eyes are lifeless. If you look at it, to take a
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look at it and tell me if I'm wrong, you can email me,
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you know, Andy a techtok radio dot com, let me know, am
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I wrong? Does it feel uncanny? And that's that's what we talk about
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in Candy Valley. Does it give you that feeling? But imagine it's short,
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It's just it's short clips. Yeah, it's just a it's weird AI.
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It's just it's going to kill any any level of creativity. Yeah.
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Well, I don't want to be creative today, so I'm just gonna let
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my AI do it. M h, Well, so what are we gonna
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lose our freedom of expression? Are we gonna lose our freedom to think creatively?
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Creatively? Like am I? I just feel like it's gonna be such
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a bad direction for mental health because there's so much good that comes to doing
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art, music writing, storytelling, storyboarding, anything that has to do with
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the create like movie making, storyboarding, scripting, that all comes from you
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know, it comes from your soul in some cases, right yeah, if
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it comes from a machine and it feels sanitized and it feels generated, like,
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what's that going to do? Like, what is that going to do
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for the morality of people who do art or do writing for a living based
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on a life experience. Somebody, your boss is going to come to you
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and go, yeah, I'm not really feeling your your soul today, so
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I'm gonna give it to a computer. Yeah I'm not enjoying your writing.
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You're a little you have writer's block. AI doesn't, so you're out.
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And it's exactly that, that emotional connection. That's that's one of the reasons
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the writer's killed. Um as you know, has been on strike and a
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lot of that is dealing with Hey, they want protection from AI. They
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don't want to have a script run through a generator to say, make this
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more saleable, make it more you know. The other day, I was
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looking for keywords for a for a website and I thought, let's see what
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chat GPT comes up with. And I put in an article up on chat
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GPT and I said, give me keywords out of this that would make this
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more SEO friendly. It was ridiculous. It had there was no rhyme or
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reason to it. It didn't really I think understand what I was asking it
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for um and so it gave me a bunch of kablue. I mean,
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it was bologny and that there was there's no way that would have helped.
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But again it's like we're trusting, and it's like trusting that new person at
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work go ahead and take this project and make it big. So they're they're
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working on protecting their their creativity by saying, you know, don't I've got
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written you a script. You accept the script, don't take it and pop
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it into AI to try and make it more salable. You look at every
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article that is on I will say Microsoft Edge, any news article that you
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see when you pull up you pull up Edge and you see in the news
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stories, every every single thing there is clickbait, and a lot of that's
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created by AI. Make that you could tell it, make this story,
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give me a headline, to make this story clickable, and it will do
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that, but it's it's clickbait. I saw a story there the other day
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about Christie alle dying the other day. Christie Alley died a while ago,
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like a long while ago. But is that because people maybe don't know?
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So it wants you to click on this story to suddenly go, oh,
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I didn't know she died. Maybe you're watching a Hallmark and Lifetime movies that
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Christie Alley we're in that you needed to know that. Are you making you
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poking fun of me? Yes? Hallmark movies. Yes, Now, I
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kind of I've kind of moved a little Lifetime now because there's crime involved.
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So I'm getting a little of I D Channel and the Hallmark at the same
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time. It's right there in the middle. I'm proud of you for spanning
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your horizon. They're gonna write Hallmark movies with AI. I would not be
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say you think, okay, they're gonna have one person now Hallmark, it's
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all it's gonna be. It's one persons, cheesy Christmas movie with couple that's
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engaged that breaks up before a massive trip out west. Click go there's one
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movie. Well no, wait, wait a minute. For somebody who does
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not watch Hallmark, how do you know that's the plot of every holiday?
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Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. I've never said that.
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I've never watched Hallmark pervies. Justin always gets in there and gives you a
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hard time about it first, and it never lets me say that I enjoy
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these movies too. Yeah, it's not here, so he doesn't get to
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give me a hard time about it. And if you say a word to
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him about it, it'll be our secrets. I'm gonna tell you right now.
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One of my favorite shows it was on I don't think it was on
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the Horror. It was on the Hallward Show. Yea one calls the Heart.
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Oh yeah, well yeah, I know that show of that shows such
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a good show. It was like the Old West, right, Like I
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wouldn't be caught dead with a conversation with Justin. But there's always there's just
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one actress that's in there. I don't know who it is. She's always
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looking up at the camera like like up into the sky, and it's the
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same expression even in her Hallmark movies. They do that. It's like I
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think, I know, I think I know who you're talking about it.
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I don't have to look around. Why is she doing that? But yeah,
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so it's going it's still going to affect our life. And there is
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nothing that people us as consumers, as I'm a consumer just like you listening
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can do to stop it. So I think it's I think, not not
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one, not one thing. But can we understand it a little more and
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adjust to it? Now you don't even want to embrace it at all.
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You're like, hate this idea, GBT. We talked talked about it before
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the show. Right, It's like, I'm going to have to for my
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career. I know that AI is going to impact the way I do my
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job. It's just just the way it is. Right. AI is can
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analyze and look at millions and millions of hours of sports footage, right,
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and it's going to be able to know and analyze and predict breakaways three point
25:30
two points, you know. And it's gonna be able to put up stats.
25:34
You say it's gonna be smart enough. I mean they already they're already
25:40
doing AI tracking, doing other sorts of things, right, and it's gonna
25:45
know. So it's gonna know, okay that a score just got made.
25:48
I can read the letters on their jersey, so I know it was this
25:52
player. I know their entire scoring history, and I could put up all
25:56
that stat information right away. Boom generates all these crazy stats. That was
26:02
his four hundred and fiftieth point, his second three, you know, his
26:06
his second three pointer of the game, and he is two for two in
26:10
his three throws. And he's just gonna be able to generate all that instantly.
26:11
Do you think now I'm wondering about this, do you think that AI
26:17
could be a tool used by the owners to actually visually watch the plays of
26:22
a team and then learn them. Wow, it's gonna track player. You're
26:30
already doing with augmented reality. You're already tracking stuff like that. And there's
26:37
a lot of teams, a lot of teams right now. A lot of
26:38
sports teams are tracking players via GPS right early, like the hockey team and
26:45
ner Name tracks all their players via GPS, so you see where they are
26:51
on the on the devices yep. And they can see them in live on
26:55
iPads, and they can track speed, duration, how long have they been
27:00
on the ice, all this all this crazy stuff, and it's all for
27:03
sports medicine, right because the coach can look at that information and go,
27:08
yeah, I saw you were a little slower today than you were a practice
27:11
two days ago. What's going on? Well, I think I might have
27:14
bumped into my knee or something right, And it's like they can predict that
27:18
the player might be injured, or might be favoring his left leg instead of
27:22
his right leg, and you know, things like that, so they can,
27:25
but it's AI is gonna be able to do all that. AI could
27:27
flag that go, this player is running slower today than he's run in his
27:33
past four cycles, right, so starts to putting up flags, and then
27:37
it is well, does it make you wonder though, I mean, what
27:41
happens when they decide we don't need players, let's just run robotics on the
27:45
ice and people will watch, will they? I don't I have a feeling
27:51
that we want. Don't I have a feeling? I mean, although if
27:55
you think about it, it see us this past year and the year before,
27:57
they did the races in Vegas using augmented real well not augmented artificial intelligence
28:06
inside race cars. There was no people driving them. It was all being
28:08
driven by AI and to choose you know, the spots to turn, cars
28:15
to avoid and the whole bit. And you could still see the video available
28:18
up on YouTube of some of these races. They were pretty exciting, except
28:22
there were no racers in them. But racers are what makes a lot of
28:27
people. It's like if you took the country artist out of country music and
28:33
it was just a guitar and just a drum and an ai voice, I
28:38
don't care what you say, people will not listen. And we're circled back
28:41
to my original point. I've been making this whole time since you guys told
28:45
me about chat GPT human it's emotion, it's creativity like that if you just
28:55
made my point for me, Yeah, creativity, that's going to go away.
28:59
There's going to be no original creative thought period, right, and that
29:03
is going to have a profound impact on society going forward. It's just it's
29:10
just the way it is. We are going to become so dumb. A
29:14
lot of us already are, and I just don't don't get it. And
29:18
without without creativity, without the arts, without music, without all of this
29:23
stuff. Like everybody wants to be perfect, right. I would love to
29:27
be an amazing trumpet player. I would love to be an amazing artist.
29:32
I'm not those things right because they're not something that I have a passion to
29:34
do right, right. But if I get generated on chat GYBT and make
29:40
money and look how great I am at doing this thing, and now I
29:45
have this false sense of like, I don't think this it's going to mess
29:48
with people's psyches and I just doesn't sit right with me. I kind of
29:52
thought about this just now chat GPT open AI is borg. You know why
30:00
I say that assimilating. Yeah, we're all getting assimilated and resistance it's futile.
30:07
Yeah, that's what it's all about. Quick break, we'll come back
30:10
with Mora of tech Talk Radio. Got a couple of cool products to tell
30:14
you about if you want to secure your data and you don't want prying eyes.
30:18
I've got something that I took a look at this past week on Fox
30:21
eleven. We'll tell you about that coming up. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm
30:23
shot to wear it. I don't know what my board destination would be at
30:26
the time. Find it's on the web at tech talk radio dot com.
30:32
And now back to tech talk Radio. This week on campus be Fox eleven,
30:37
I showed a couple of cool products to help with um yeah, this
30:42
productivity accessories, that kind of thing, and one of them, have you
30:47
have you ever lost a flash drive? Sean? Have I ever lost the
30:49
flash drive? Yes, I've lost money and washed them I've lost them.
30:55
I've destroyed him giving him away on accident. Yeah, I know there's one
31:00
I gave the boss here. I never saw it again. And we're talking
31:03
like seven years ago, and I still. The worst thing you can do
31:07
is somebody can say, hey, I need a flash drive real quick.
31:10
I'll bring it right back. Yeah, you don't get them back. That's
31:12
that's why I have one gig flash drive to my desk, just so you
31:15
can hand them out. Here's a flash drive, and I'll come back ten
31:18
minutes later. Yeah, this isn't big enough. Well, you know the
31:22
other the other concern too, is all right, so you have a flash
31:26
drive, you give it to somebody. Now, even if you had this
31:30
flash drive and you have formatted it and you give it to somebody and they
31:37
take it and they don't bring it back, then one day they get curious
31:41
and they get online and they find that software program and there's a couple easy
31:45
us is one of them, and they decide to go ahead and see what
31:52
was in that deleted partition or formatted drive. Formatted flash drive. They can
31:57
very easily come up with some of that stuff you thought that was gone unless
32:01
you use you know Darien's Boot and Nuke, which will you know, uh,
32:05
delete stuff to department to defend standards, that stuff is still there.
32:09
A lot of people don't realize that when you delete something off your hard drive
32:15
or your flash drive, it's not really gone. The data is still there's
32:19
just waiting to be overwritten by something new. Yeah, and sometimes you know,
32:22
somebody writes files, those those ones and zeros are still a place,
32:27
and a software software can go back in and recompile those ones and zeros and
32:31
show you stuff that was deleted. One of the best uh that I like
32:35
is from on Track from Kroll Uh. Kroll on Track was probably one of
32:40
the best products I've used for years. I use another program get Data from
32:45
a company on Australia and they're very good at data recovery. I've had people
32:50
who who've accidentally formatted stuff or or written over a flash drive, or they've
32:57
had a drive that um first some reason they weren't able to access data,
33:00
and I've been able to recover the data. I've done full data recovery on
33:05
drives and I love it. It's so much fun to do that. But
33:07
if you have that instance where you have a document, you have a photo,
33:12
you have videos, you have stuff on this drive that maybe you don't
33:16
want people to see and you lose it or you know, you give it
33:21
to somebody. There is a kind of a new tech technology that's available on
33:27
the market and they've done this similar. There's couple choices. You have Kingston
33:32
Digital, Kingston Technologies base and my old hometown area of Fountain Valley, California.
33:38
What they've done is they've taken their technology that they had originally in data
33:44
their data traveler drives, which was great because you would plug the drive in
33:47
to your computer and up with popa screen and you'd have to type in a
33:52
password. Well that's good. Well, the new version of this now instead
33:57
has a keypad on the last drive itself, so you have to enter the
34:02
keys to eight to fifteen character alph numeric characters. You enter them on that.
34:08
You can't do one, two, three, four, five, you
34:10
know, or four, five, six, seven, eight. You've got
34:13
to actually come up with a word that could be a phrase, and you
34:19
enter that in, press the key button and unlocks, plug it into your
34:22
drive. When you pull that out of that drive, it changes the power
34:28
on it and then you'd have to re enter your password again. Now,
34:31
say you drop it somewhere and you've got documents on there. I think this
34:36
would be a perfect type of tool for somebody in the real estate business or
34:39
that's doing notary. You could put those important documents securely on this drive,
34:45
so if you lose it, you don't have to worry about you know,
34:49
somebody finding it and having access to self security numbers, you know, loan
34:53
numbers, the whole bit. But then if you do lose it and somebody
34:58
finds it and they say, what's on this, they plug it in,
35:00
which you should never do if you find a flash drive, because hackers will
35:07
put flash drives and just throw a five twelve or one gig on the ground
35:10
somewhere and there's a software program on that. You plug it in and you're
35:15
compromising your system, or worse, there are people who are malicious and build
35:21
circuits inside that will take the voltage from your computer to power the USB,
35:27
turn it directly around and frieder computer. Yeah that could happen, yes,
35:30
yeah, oh yeah, no it don't you know. It's like for for
35:37
a work gift, we got USB sticks from the office. Yeah, information
35:43
technology, right, And I just thought, what are they trying to tell
35:50
what is there's a phishing attempt, Like, I just thought it was a
35:53
really weird thing to get. I mean, it's cool, it says their
35:58
name on it. It's but it's like, I'm skeptic coal of everything.
36:01
Yeah, I've had people that have told me you could build a dummy machine.
36:09
Basically, build a get an old laptop, you build a dummy machine.
36:14
It's not connected to the net, not on your network, and you
36:16
could test stuff out that way. Again, you're taken a big risk when
36:21
you do that, but say somebody does, it'd be kind of fun to
36:23
see what's on some of that stuff, you know, oh yeah, yoh
36:27
yeah. And there's people I know that like Bookman's and there's other places I
36:30
don't know if they do that, but they sell flash drives, and it'd
36:35
be interesting. It'd be a fun experiments one day to go and get one
36:37
of these and buy them and see what's on there, what is still on
36:43
there that they thought was off of there. And you know, the same
36:45
goes for thrift stores. Thrift stores sell computers. I know somebody who had
36:50
a thrift store computer that brought it to me as an experiment, and sure
36:52
enough, Yeah, tons of tons of photos that did not belong to them
36:59
that were recoverable through a data recovery. So yeah, it's kind of amazing.
37:04
But so say you take this drive okay, and you plug it in
37:07
and you're like, okay, I don't know what the password is. You
37:10
try it ten different times. The tenth try, that drive is wiped to
37:15
DoD standards military grade. It's as two fifty six, it's got this feature.
37:21
Then that well, after the ten tries, and that's not consecutive,
37:25
you do one Okay, there's one bad try, and then you know you've
37:29
put it so away. Come back three months later, try it again.
37:32
That's two bad tries. So again, no matter what, after ten tries,
37:37
it will wipe the drive. I would wipe that drive like a yeah,
37:40
I'm terrible your ray passwords. I'd never I'd haven like written sharpie on
37:45
the back side. That kind of defeats. In an envelope with a password
37:51
down on it, that kind of defeats the purpose though, Sean, you
37:55
know, the whole is protect the data or Max would get a hold of
37:59
it, lock me out. You're king, He locked me out of my
38:01
watch for like two and a half hours. Ere to day. Oh can
38:04
you imagine that? Keep plugging it into the USB. It's like, yep,
38:07
nope, hit the buttons. Is he just taps on my watch for
38:10
fun, just to tap on it, and all of sudden, I'm lolocked
38:14
out for we gotta we gotta do that. As an experiment, We'll get
38:17
one of the eight gigabyte models and send it to him and see how how
38:22
long it'll take Max to wipe out. Now the thing competition, who could
38:29
do it faster? Max or Eric? Yeah? Now, Samsung, I
38:31
will say, has a unit that's biometric. Um, so it's an SSD
38:37
drive so you don't have to worry about dropping it. Uh, you know,
38:39
like this flash drive, it's electronic, it's not going to be you
38:43
know, spinny um, and that one is biometric. But this is a
38:45
different take on it. Of course, with the keys. I think Kingston's
38:49
got a winner here. Pricing wise, though, for eight gigabytes. Now,
38:52
an eight gigabyte flash drive, how much would that generally cost? You
38:57
know, this is gonna be round about nine dollars for a giga gig.
39:02
Yes, that's like wow, yeah with this military that's like going back to
39:10
yeah, ten years ago. Yeah, it's yeah, it's so it's pricy,
39:15
but again it's that security, that two fifty six, that level,
39:17
you know, that military grade, and also you're paying for that. You're
39:22
paying for that. And if you want to get the top of the line,
39:23
which is one hundred and twenty eight gigabytes, not that much by but
39:28
today's standards, it's about two hundred dollars. But it does come in a
39:31
nice case that is um I'm not sure. I think it's I P sixty
39:37
five, but it will protect against some water or some dust. Has a
39:40
galvanized steel chains. You could connect it to your to your key ring and
39:45
again it's um, it's pretty good. So that's that's something to think about
39:50
if you're looking for new a new product to keep you safe. The other
39:53
thing I showed this week, Sean, you would love this. I finally
39:57
found a disc at reader U see. It's made from tand like a floppy
40:02
drive. It's a floppy disc et very well, they were floppy. Yeah,
40:06
but I thought, oh, here's the other curiosity part. I wanted
40:09
to see. I have all these discs. I wanted to see what's on
40:12
him. So I plugged him in right and it says it only works with
40:15
Windows ninety eight, Windows XP, Windows m ME. Windows eight doesn't even
40:22
rate seven or ten or eleven on there, but it did. It did
40:25
identify it on my Windows eleven machine. It did see it. I popped
40:30
the disc get in. Every single disc GET I had was another startup disk
40:36
for some operating system to start up. And that was it. I mean,
40:39
nothing that exciting on them. Yeah. So when I went through in
40:46
twenty nineteen, in reading the beginning of COVID, I did that huge family
40:52
photo restoration, remember that. Yeah, all those photos and scand them and
40:54
all the films stuff. Part of that was pulling photos off of three three
41:00
point five floppy drives. Oh wow, So I have a USB floppy drive
41:05
reader, right and pop it in and what can fit on three and a
41:07
half megs? Yeah, isn't it funny? Sometimes times just like maybe five
41:13
or six pictures depending on Mostly was tax documents, correspondence, email backups,
41:22
um, you know, checkbook ledgers, that types of stuff. That type
41:25
of stuff, right, So it was interesting to go through that. But
41:28
it was like letters from my grandpa to my grandma, letters from Germany to
41:32
the US because my relatives still live in Germany and so it was. It
41:36
was cool to see all that because they just saved it from their emails onto
41:38
these floppy drives. So, but that's how you stored stuff. Yeah,
41:44
right back in the late nineties, in the early two thousands, right,
41:46
I did find before CDs were a big thing and CD burners and stuff,
41:51
they did not have a five at a quarter. They did not have you
41:57
know, they did not have those reader for those those are like forget them?
42:01
What about zip disc I still have a zip reader, but it's not
42:06
USB. So I'm you know, I've got to find an old machine following
42:09
an access and I even have I O Maica tapes. I still have the
42:14
tape drive. I still have an old computer. Will it still work?
42:17
I don't know. I have a M I have a zip disc firewar for
42:28
a hundred reader. Oh wow. Really, so I was able to plug
42:31
that into my dongle right USBC and plug it in and get all my a
42:37
bunch of high school stuff off zip discs, because that's what we used in
42:39
high school, was zip discs. Man. And you know, I did
42:43
a lot of graphic cards and designed in in high school. So I had
42:46
a one hundred and twenty five meg zip disc, which is a big deal.
42:50
Yeah, but then I must have taken one of these at some point.
42:53
But I had a seven hundred and fifty meg zip disc. WHOA really?
43:00
Yeah, that was like is there anything on him? It wasn't.
43:04
I don't remember. Now, that was still long ago. I'd have to
43:06
fire back up. But it had all my project files, Photoshop files in
43:09
design files also, and photos and videos and stuff that I had done in
43:13
high school. But that was a lot of storage back then for a ZIP
43:16
drive. Yeah, that's probably when I want to say ten megabytes were like
43:22
kind of the norm, or one hundred megabytes were the norm for a hard
43:27
drive inside a computer. Yeah, you think about how far we've come now,
43:30
that was Where was that? The other day? I saw a Western
43:34
Digital duo twenty two gigabytes each, so forty four twenty two terabytes, so
43:39
basically forty four terabytes of data that could be stored on this drive. But
43:45
it was twenty two and then it automatic it's a duo, so it backs
43:50
up and that's you know, and then think about this, right, that's
43:52
twenty years like that was twenty years ago. Yeah, what is it going
43:55
to look like in twenty years from now, yeah, Well, would you
44:00
feel better if everything was in the cloud, because I think that's what that's
44:02
where it's gonna be. That's where people are wanting. They don't want to
44:06
keep local, they want to keep it all the clo'na. All you're gonna
44:08
have as a monitor that's either that cable all the back and two USB ports
44:13
for keyboard of mouse, yeah, and everything. You're just gonna connect to
44:16
your computer. You're just gonna connect to the cloud. And you're gonna pay
44:20
virtual services for everything, yeah, or for apps you want to play.
44:22
You want to play video games, you pay a virtual service. You want
44:25
to play Xbox virtual service, PlayStation virtual service, right, Netflix's virtual service,
44:30
EVENUS virtual service. Even Microsoft did that. I never knew how that
44:35
went. Where you paid a subscription for Windows so it was a cloud based
44:39
Windows, so you would log onto a terminal and there there was your your
44:44
Windows operating system. Everybody wants to go to subscription, even Adobe, you
44:49
know, Microsoft Office. A lot of us are doing that now into a
44:52
quick books which is absorbably expensive. Um you know are And I used to
44:59
love it because you used to be able to go out and buy software programs
45:01
and have them for years now after a year, Oh you get that reminder.
45:07
Hey, we're gonna charge you again. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say
45:09
it again, and I've said it on the show, and I tell my
45:12
friends that we are going to have a digital revolution where there's going to be
45:20
such a pushback from the I don't even know if it's going to be from
45:23
the masses, but it's going to be this huge push for physical content again.
45:29
Yeah, give me my shows on DVD and Blu ray, give me
45:32
my games on physical disc, Give me my software out a physical disc,
45:37
Mail me a disc. I don't care. Give me Photoshop the beta.
45:42
I just downloaded the Photoshop beta just now right because it's part of my subscription.
45:46
I haven't used Photoshop in year. I'd hardly ever used Photoshop well as
45:50
versus Photoshop, I was probably Photoshop seven and that was back in the early
45:53
two thousands. Yeah, I'm still pay any hundred bucks for it. So
46:00
but I've been paying for the last four and a half years. I've been
46:02
paid twenty nine ninety nine a month. All Right, we gotta take a
46:07
break, we come back. Actually, I want you to talk a little
46:09
bit about that, because Adobe is doing something a little different, which we
46:14
think is kind of cool. So we'll come back with more of tech talk
46:17
Radio. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm trying to find us on Facebook at facebook
46:21
dot com four slash tech Talkers. We'll be right back now, back to
46:24
TikTok Radio. So at the beginning of the show, we've talked about the
46:29
new Photoshop Generative fill. Yeah, we can get a shop. We've talked
46:34
about it before recording times. So the new Photoshop beta as generative Phil Ai.
46:40
Okay, So there's a video that we'll leak on our face, on
46:44
our website, Facebook, whatever. It'll be on the blog. It blog
46:47
pretty crazy what they do in the video because it's like they're adding yellow eyes
46:51
to the road. They're taking out tire marks on the road and stuff.
46:54
Well, I downloaded the beta during the show and I'm playing with it right
46:58
now and I went in and I added some northern lights. I added a
47:02
plane and we had one would have follow with it during the break. The
47:06
plane was not good. The plane was not good. And if if I
47:10
just played with it real quick and I just draw a circle. When I
47:14
say just draw a circle like this, just did I say? Okay?
47:19
Generated Phil would I want to say, what do I want to say?
47:21
Right? And you type this in and it uses what Adobe stock images which
47:27
people can upload to Adobe. They have like a countless number. I mean
47:30
we're talking not talk on hundreds. We're talking just an incredible number that will
47:36
pull from their their kind of library. So what it's doing then, is
47:42
it's not tapping the copyright material of somebody like like some of the other programs
47:50
like mid Journey and some of the others that will do just pulls from everywhere
47:52
on the web to kind of put together what you want. Although, yeah,
47:55
so I just typed in just I have a picture that I took of
48:00
a lighthouse with some stars and the night sky. Well you took that picture.
48:05
That was a pretty amazing picture too. Yeah. So all I did,
48:07
and Andy, you're gonna see this now, I mean I haven't shown
48:10
it yet. This is hilarious. And all I did is I selected a
48:13
piece of the sky and I said International Space Station. Oh really okay,
48:17
and oh that is amazing. That is great. That just looks like a
48:23
big old satellite And you can tell where I selected. So, I mean,
48:30
if you're looking to make memes and looking to just generate a bunch of
48:35
nonsense. Oh it actually all it has variations. Yeah, oh so you
48:38
can oh look at that. Oh so you can check this is different different
48:43
versions. Listeners can check out this video. We're talking about it while he's
48:47
doing that on our blog. You know, in the tabs on the right
48:52
side, where you'd see like your layers and your panels and your paths and
48:54
stuff. You in the properties of this image. I now have a tab,
49:01
but I can see variations of the generated AI image that I just made.
49:07
Now, so the first the first one wasn't good. The second one
49:09
actually shows me what looks more like the space station. Right, So again,
49:15
how is Adobe protecting the photographer and the visual artists they're doing it by
49:22
will they get paid a certain amount through amounts that they work on. I
49:28
know that Adobe is really looking at making sure that copyrighted material from other other
49:35
users that are not part of Adobe stock are not going to be used in
49:38
creating these images like you've done today. And yeah, I don't applaud them
49:44
for that. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah, it's just funny. But it's
49:49
like, yeah, now for those that don't use Photoshop, um, and
49:54
you've got the beta so you're you're kind of playing around with that? Is
49:59
it? Is it expensive? Because you know, I go back to the
50:00
original photos all disc photostylers, one of the discs I found the other day
50:07
to you know, photoshop, and I used Correll over the years from a
50:09
different company of course. Um, but is it expense on me? Pill
50:14
are going to be paying if they want to play around with this and maybe
50:16
create some images. Yeah, I mean I'm trying to see what the cost
50:22
is right now. It's open up at So right now, I pay nineteen
50:28
ninety nine a month a month, right, and that in what includes in
50:32
my in that plan, I have access to Photoshop light Room, Lightroom Classic,
50:43
Adobe Bridge and Photoshop for the iPad and also Photoshop light Room for mobile
50:50
and one I have one terabyte of cloud storage for all my photos and stuff.
50:54
So it's it's actually not that bad of a deal, right. Yeah,
50:58
It's like I don't use photoshot that much. I used just light Room.
51:01
But if I wanted to just do light Room, it didn't make sense
51:05
because it was only a few dollars cheaper. Yeah maybe with sixteen or seventeen
51:09
yet tough. Yeah, So now from nineteen nine that's nineteen nine a month,
51:14
right, And I've been doing that for a good probably four years now,
51:19
and I do like that they're protecting the artists. It really just makes
51:23
sense when you think about it. Now. I would love to get your
51:25
thoughts on when it comes to AI use. Have you kind of gone into
51:31
using the chat GPT model would you anticipate if you're somebody that likes to take
51:37
a lot of photos of possibly using this new feature from the new photos shop.
51:43
The way this show works really and how you know our discussion with the
51:46
guys from made cast the other day is you know it started as a live
51:51
call in show. You could call in, and I don't want people to
51:53
feel like they can't call in with their questions. If you have you're listening
51:57
and you have a question or comments. Maybe you're hearing us talk about photoshop
52:01
and you're thinking, well, I use Correl and Ili Correl and the new
52:04
Correl twenty twenty three is now available as well. UM, we want to
52:07
hear from you, We want to hear reviews from you. UM. We
52:09
want to make this more interactive. So you know that right now, you
52:15
can you can call, you can leave a question, you can leave a
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comment at five two o seven seven seven eighty. You can email us tech
52:22
guys at tech talk radio dot com. Another quick break, we come back.
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We've got a great learn I've got a great learning YouTube page free to
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check out. I don't know if you've got something you want to cover,
52:34
but we'll cover more of that coming up here on tech talk Radio. I'm
52:37
Andy Taylor, I'm shot Its Weird. Find us on Twitter at tech talk
52:40
radio and now back to tech talk Radio again. You can check out the
52:46
video from Sean that he created using Photoshop that this is a beta version of
52:51
Photoshop. Yeah, it's the it's the current. It's it just got released
52:54
as of the recording, like the day today, all day of this recording,
52:58
so it's really really they knew, they just announced it and then it's
53:01
kind of been going crazy. People were talking all about it. So it'd
53:04
be it's gonna be interesting to see what the watergates open and see what people
53:07
create with you. You could see the video blog dot tech talk radio dot
53:10
com or on the front page of our website. We'll have that. Just
53:14
scroll down a little you'll be able to see it there. What I think
53:16
is really cool is we found a website and there's a guy that a guy
53:21
actually told me about. This guy pH Learn and Flearn is what he called
53:27
him. He does step by step videos using a lot of technology and a
53:31
lot of well a lot of photoshop tricks, whether it be lightroom, p
53:37
L e A r N dot com. You can go there. You can
53:42
check out tutorials, downloads. There's free tutorials. You could sign up to
53:46
learn more about how to do some of the stuff that maybe you know your
53:50
work is saying, hey, we'd love you to be able to create graphics
53:52
for us. We'd love to be able to do this. And now with
53:55
the integration of AI and a photoshop for a really good I like what it's
54:00
able to do. And they made it easy. Look at you. You
54:02
just downloaded it and you used this tool for the first time. We pop
54:07
popped up right away. Learned this new tool generated Phil right and the flirt
54:10
video that you're talking about was posted as of this recording twelve hours ago.
54:15
So this is this is a very new thing. And that's why we started
54:17
talking about it because you said, hey, this guy made this cool video.
54:20
We should talk about it because we're talking about AI on the show.
54:22
So just Seean says, well, I'm gonna get the program and there you
54:25
go, or you using it it. Yeah, it's part of my subscription
54:29
and I just download, downloaded the beta installed it while we were talking and
54:35
dropped in one of my northern light images and made a really ugly plane show
54:39
up. And then I made another one, right you see, And then
54:43
I said, you know, it's a picture of a lighthouse with the lake
54:45
behind it, and I drew a little section over the water with the lasso
54:49
tool and said a ship approaching the lighthouse, and it made it look like
54:52
a lower laker was approaching the layhouse. I don't think it's gonna be that
54:55
hard for people to make images that are going to pass off as real.
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Yeah, it's gonna be pretty amazing terrifying again, but but but amazing at
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the same time. Yeah, right, but amazing at the same time.
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Right. Yeah. So I think I'm gonna play around with this. So
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maybe this will be my four aid, AI and night and I'm gonna be
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obsessed with AI come next week, right, So we'll see, maybe you
55:14
get share a little bit, share those us. We'll put put those on
55:16
our blog as well. Maybe I will be an AI by next week.
55:21
We'll have to see. All right. That's it for this week's Tech Talk
55:23
Radio Justin should be back with us next week and the meantime again. Questions
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drop us a line tech guys at tech talk radio dot com. I'm Andy
55:31
Taylor, I'm Sean Deward. We'll talk to you next week.