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Trydra: Evil Dead 2 Kickstarter Fiasco & Godzilla Trailer · Multiple Nerdgasm

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so I'm a little scared this week and it's not because Dan's not here and he's
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buming around Italy right oh is that where he is of
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course yeah yeah yeah yeah but I'm doing the right thing and announcing it early
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in the episode instead of getting to the end to say someone's not here or just
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not at all yeah all right but that's not the reason I'm scared though what are
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you why are you scared I got a phone
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call today oh [ __ ] really yeah I knew it
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I knew it I got a phone call from
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Scientology people welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy yeah what did they say what did
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they want um well they woke me up from my sleep and I said sorry I was working
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night shift last night I'm asleep at the moment and they went F it's okay we'll
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call you back back later and that's all I know but they're starting to chase me
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yeah they haven't called me back since but I'm scared oh God I told you this
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was a bad idea I tried to tell you everyone else was like oh this will be funny
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no they're scary they're well I suppos just calling you isn't
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necessarily super scary CU you know they're trying but I think you need to
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you need to shut it down that's just my opinion open the
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book I suppose yeah you need to let them know that they're
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barking up the wrong tree because you are not going to be any good for them no
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I'm going to be useless mhm I'm too lazy to right be someone that they could get
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stuff out of yeah cuz yeah the the books here it looks a really nice book it's
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still in the rapper looks like a really nice book does it yep all right I wonder
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if they listen to this show I bet they listen to this show that's why I'm still
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being super nice and respectful about
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them M when I don't they seem
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nice yeah I know I know I'm I'm sure at an individual level they are nice people
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I just yeah I don't know I'll get around to reading the book one day and completing
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my homework just don't why no whatever well do you want to have some followup
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news that might make you sad sure well I sounded more enthusiastic than I
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probably should about being sad but yeah yeah cuz uh do I yeah well like this
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week's not [ __ ] sad enough y go on WE kickstarted the same game a couple of
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years ago didn't we uh Evil Dead 2 yeah yeah we did the ball game uh we also
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paid an extra $100 each to get dice have you been keeping up to date with what's
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happening with that game yeah I uh I paid more than that I I got drunk just
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before the kickstarter ended and I upgraded to the [ __ ] everything like I did
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yeah yeah yeah I I did keep I did keep up with it h it's even worse for me
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because I also did the same thing for the Terminator 2 game oh did you so for
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those who don't know for those who don't know this space goat Productions yeah
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space goat Productions they made they did Comics they did like the Evil Dead
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comics and uh and they had a bunch of I guess licenses for various you know
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properties like the howling and Prett good licenses yeah like not shitty
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things like Terminator 2 is quite a big one yeah they'd never made a board game
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before though but when they did there's a Kickstarter for uh the first one I
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think the Evil Dead one was the first one it was the Evil Dead 2 board game uh
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and it sounded cool and it raised like over a million dollars I forget exactly
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how much yep uh and obviously as we just said we got in on it and then uh
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drunkenly I some of the offerings were dice made out of the actual cabin that
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the the movie was filmed in which is pretty awesome that they were $100 US
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for two dice I got my dice did you get your dice no see I've got my
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dice oh I don't have my dice that's that's all I've gotten but and since
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since then they went on they did a they did a Kickstarter before they fulfilled
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the Evil Dead one they did another Kickstarter for the Terminator game and
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then they were they had another one loaded ready to go for a howling board
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game and then uh after I guess eventually people started asking where's
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the board games and then they I I don't want to I I I think they went in with
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the best of intentions but then they they basically just [ __ ] it all up and
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they ran out of honestly from the impression I got was that they yeah
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they've gone very silently out and I honestly do think that they went in
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going they weren't going in to rip people off or anything like that I think
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they just got one of these ones where they got too much money yeah and I don't
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think I don't think they quite well it's like we did too with the kick
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kickstarters like and I've since seen a lot of other kickstarters say Amanda
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Palmer said the exactly the same thing about hers recently in in an interview
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with patreon she said you know like uh we made the mistake on ours with the
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merch and yep uh it's expensive it's more expensive than you think it is and
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and I assume with space goat it was the same thing they sold so many copies of
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it they made all these bonus stuff and it sounds like a lot of money like you
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know over a million dollars but then you got to pay for everybody's stuff and
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people only gave like enough money generally speaking for the stuff that
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they bought but you got to manufacture it yeah I've funded a lot of Kickstarter
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games mhm and normally they're quite good because I think a lot of people go
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in knowing that basically this is a pre-order for a game it's not yes but I
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think with this when they were still designing it from the ground up y yeah
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like figures the rules they hadn't even finalized any of that stuff and I think
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that's where they run into trouble oh definitely because they I mean even as
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recently as a couple months ago they started posting oh here's the box art
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and everyone was like the [ __ ] box art where's my game like yeah uh and
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there's a print andplay version of it that you can download the the Evil Dead
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game but I mean well cuz we don't no I want the [ __ ] Minis and I want all
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the stuff I paid for um and and they I think they were a
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little misleading about what was going on because they had said that that they
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were starting the print run and they hadn't and and basically now everyone's
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got the shits with them people are threatening to sue them which if if if
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it doesn't not going to get you anything all it's going to get is everybody
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screwed because y they don't have much money to begin with if you sue them
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maybe someone will get some money and then everyone else will just get [ __ ]
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so lawyers will get money yeah exactly but yeah there's no point in s they have
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gone quiet I'm still waiting for another update cuz they did do a few updates a
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while ago and it was basically him saying like sorry we screwed up yeah he
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was very excited that we're going to try something then they were trying to get
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more investors yes they ran through that didn't work no because they they went on
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this platform to attract investors for the company and then everybody from the
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kickstarter because you could ask questions on the the page for the
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investors and all the people from the kickstarter went over there by [ __ ]
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was my [ __ ] game and then all the investors were like like as if why would
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you ever back that so yeah yeah that was a disaster that was that was a very bad
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idea on their part I got to say they must have known that was going to happen
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last update was May 25th and then silence ever since yeah oh that's the
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thing I was going to say Amanda Palmer offered uh she said when she did her
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kickstarted cuz she made over a million dollar or something it was the most
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money any musicians ever made and she said there was like not aent of it left
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at the end because you had to pay cuz you had to pay for all the stuff that
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she promised everybody and uh and the thing that the the biggest mistake she
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made was that she thought oh let's just say free international shipping and I'm
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sure it'll work out and it cost her over she spent over $100,000 on shipping things to
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people yeah yeah you can't you can get away with um free shipping in the
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country you're in not the world yeah so I we've sent many things
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overseas as part of his podcast and it's expensive I spent a lot of money on
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those mugs I know I I actually went to get to make a mug and I was like jeez
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how much they're like it's like $15 a mug or something right I I spent
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hundreds on those mugs getting them and sending them out everyone better love
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them well I've got a few of them I like them yeah so yeah but I got my d dice you
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didn't get yours I didn't get my dice now I'm trying to yeah I want to chase
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that up now I want my dice I got them but then there was a whole thing about
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uh and I didn't bother looking into it because I was like you know what I don't
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want to know but there was a whole uh discussion on the kickstarter about
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whether or not they were actually made from the cabin or from the whether it
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was just some [ __ ] wooden dice he found lying around somewhere so I mean
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they have a certificate of authenticity but uh yeah but I sort of did find a
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little bit strange that that cin would even still exist well it was being
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demolished was the story in the kickstarter yeah so the yeah listeners
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the movie takes place in a in a cabin uh they sh on location somewhere no no no
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no spoilers for a movie that's [ __ ]
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30 years old more maybe um f in a cabin and then they were going to demolish the
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cabin and apparently they discovered that they could buy the wood from the
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cabin and make dice out of it and then now there's some question as to whether
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that was true and whether this was just made from some pallets that the guy had
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on hand so
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yeah I don't care if they're made from pellets I paid a 100 bucks for them I
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want them yeah I'm surprised you didn't get yours just because I got it might be
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because could be because I'm in Australia and yeah International so they
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might have been holding off until send a lot yeah could could be but
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nice pissed off you've got yours actually sorry come around and you can
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uh you can have a roll of them I haven't taken them out of the packet they were
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in a sealed thing with a certificate of authenticity it's still in there it's
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the stupidest thing I've spent money on for a long time though really okay it's
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oh like you could spend $100 to get some really nice dice I got as a part of
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another Kickstarter I I got a set of [ __ ] metal uh cthulu dice as part of
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a Kickstarter they're sick any problem is that I'm scared to roll them on my
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table cuz it's going to take to wreck it yeah but I bet you that it didn't cost a
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100 bucks they didn't they didn't I add although I did add a I I
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bought uh you know the I forget the name of the company I don't want to it might
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be Q Workshop makes s the dice uh for like the cthulu themed ones and they as
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part of the kickstarter you could add and get I bought I've got like 10 sets
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of dice with it I've got more you know more role playing game than I I'll ever
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need now and they're cool like tentacle themed sweet different colors I lost my
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dice no I still have lots of Star Wars dice but I don't have any other dice oh
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okay like D and D dice I've only got Star Wars I got a few sets of those I
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got a few sets for the role playing one and I got a few sets for X-Wing and I
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got a few sets for Amada oh right cuz Xing ones are different too and
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yeah well I got to keep my D and D ones cuz we still we're still playing playing
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Little D and D here do you watch uh critical role no I do not I've gotten
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into it a bit lately I've seen it I that's part of the geek andry oh God I
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can't even remember the geek and sunry yeah yeah it's uh it's it's a bunch of
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voice actors they're all actual voice actors I think all of them are uh and
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they play D and D and it's good it's I
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like it it's uh it's it's literally a bunch of people playing
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so it's different to some of the other stuff like um like Acquisitions
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Incorporated the penny arcade one and if listeners know the Adventure Zone the
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one that the maoy brothers and and father do um it's different to those
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because those are kind of shows whereas this is whereas this is just people
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playing this is people playing D and they're they're entertaining because
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they're actors and they're doing voices and their [ __ ] the voices are
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fantastic um I actually I was trying to listen to it uh as a podcast but I found
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it hard to follow because I'm not I don't know what their faces look like
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I'm not even quite sure how many of them are there and when they do and when they
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do voices I can't [ __ ] tell who's talking because they like they're act
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because they're voice actors like Matt merer the the DM He he'll do a voice for
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an NPC and I'm like who's talking like it's it's actually it's cool but I think
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the video version of it works better because you can see oh he's doing a
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voice rather than who the the [ __ ] is this person who just walked into the
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room yep so but I recommend it it's uh it's good if you if you want to see what
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actual DND d looks like I mean they they've been playing it for 30 years I
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think as a group so oh wow so they definitely know each
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other yeah it's not uncomfortable and stuff it's what an actual group of
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friends playing D and D is like I think uh they happen to be voice actors so
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it's a little different but uh yeah yeah
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yeah it's good so comic is on that means we've got a bunch of trailers and stuff
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that have dropped in the last few days and uh and uh a lot of them aren't
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good yep that's true I can confirm I'm just going straight out there like yeah
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like I watched the Aquaman one they have no idea what they're doing
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in this universe do they ah this was this a
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prequel it must be because it's it's before he's he's an Aquaman he's just he
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he's it's got his growing up as a kid in it and he learns to talk to fish
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I I'm still I like James Juan a lot and I'm
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like losing faith now that this is going to be good cuz the trailer
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looks if I'm honest it looks [ __ ] awful it looks to me it looks really
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awful and so I'm I'm like oh God but
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I've seen people online who are like Yay it's really I'm excited about then
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people liked the other movies so yeah I I I think this is people trying to tell
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themselves that they're going to like it it looks very bad in my opinion like it
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really yeah I I I don't see it I just don't see it being a good movie and I
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it's sort of also goes back to they really rush to get this universe created
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yeah that's true they should have done these movies first and set the
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tone cuz I could have set the tone maybe built up to it and then also found out
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what what was working and what wasn't working instead of just committing straight
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to yeah this dark thing that no one really likes well this one doesn't this
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one seems more goofy but I don't know if it's in a good way or not and then just
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visually this looks like more of the same it might as well be a an animated
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film for all the actual you know
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locations in the trailer it it's I mean you could say that about a lot of
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stuff I guess yeah but but that the second trailer I watched I'm think I'm a
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lot more hopeful for is it Shazam it's Shazam Shazam looks really
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good which I was like I was not expecting to think because although I
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like uh it's Zack Levi as Shazam I like him because I I actually liked Chuck for
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some reason Chuck was great desite Adam balwi
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involvement uh yeah that was a good show yeah I wasn't expecting to like this at all but
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no it's just it does seem fun yeah is this part of the universe or is this one
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of the Standalone movies cuz I'm confused with what they're doing now I
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think it's in Universe there's a shot in the trailer of like a batang like so I'm
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assuming that that they aware of and then there was a newspaper that said
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Superman so I'm assuming it's in Universe okay but I laughed out loud at
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a couple of things in the trailer it looks pretty funny like I do like cuz it
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is pretty much what would happen if a kid just got superpowers and became big
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and just wanded around doing became like a guy with superpowers yeah I think it
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looks pretty good just go around yeah I've got I'm superpow i y that your
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phone's charged like yeah it's funny it looks looks all right so I'm optimistic
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about that I will see that yeah but yeah the reason why I get confused is because
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the Joker movie is coming out and that's not in the universe no and it's they
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announced a bunch of stuff this week that I'm just like H you had I was
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interested in this before even though it's a joker origin story which I think
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is [ __ ] it's like Jaan Phoenix maybe it'll be good and then they're like oh
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yeah his real name's [ __ ] what do they say his name was it doesn't matter he
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doesn't need a real name I don't not that kind of backstory like
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just okay he will be named Arthur Fleck I don't know what I was expecting but
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it's not this like no it's definitely not this I think it's always been good
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except for yeah Batman like in all the games and the comics and everything it's
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he's just there right he's he's a joker we don't know where he came from he's
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just this crazy guy doing crazy [ __ ] yeah he and but now now it's a guy
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called Arthur and they're going to link him to the way so he's going to be
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directly not not not like he's not going to be Bruce's friend or anything but
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he's going to have past dealings with the Wayne family and they're going to
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it's just no don't do that
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just just yeah just stop although I guess you could argue the Wayne's are
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like one of the richest families in Gotham so they're going to be involved
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in everything but it's just it's just all this not everybody needs to be [ __ ]
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best friends with everybody no The Joker can come from
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somewhere else there are other cities in the universe of of Batman right he
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doesn't have to have come from Gotham he doesn't I don't need his name to be
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[ __ ] Arthur like did you play the Batman Telltale Game no
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um because the jok is in that but it just starts off that he's already The
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Joker but he's not quite the Joker yet but he's just meets Wayne meets him
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Bruce Wayne meets him in an insanus is Right meets him in Arkham and then they
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sort of form this friendship and then he just see the Joker get crazier and
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crazier right that was sort of a good origin story but yeah you don't need to
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go yeah further back or anything about where he came from and
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that his name's Arthur sorry I just think of Arthur from um he's
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guide I wish it was I just see walking a guy walking around with a tail I wish it
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was uh what's his name that would be great uh I can never remember his name
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the actor Tim from the office Arthur from
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guide someone someone cors [ __ ] Jen will correct me when she hears
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this yeah Jen just put you say what his name is
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Martin Freeman [ __ ] so yeah listeners if you know the name of the
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actor who plays Tim from the office and billbo baggin in lot of the Rings
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extra they've been getting long yeah it's like extra 10 to 20 minutes but we
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episode yeah we can't shut up so it basically gets you an extra extra chunk
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of us talking about [ __ ] so now do we have one that that every level does give
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people a hug if they beat me I think CU I did remember that was a thing you
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don't even I wanted do they have to back us on patreon you going you hug
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anybody yeah it's true so no I guess I mean I can put it on there if you want
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but I think yeah I'll just hug them anyway right did you watch oh it might be
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illegal if I'm if people giving money to hug me cuz that's getting into into
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prostitution sexual favors territory yeah we don't want to be involved in
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that no probably not no did you watch the Godzilla
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trailer I did and I think this focused
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on the part of the last movie that I hated the most and that was the
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people right CU remember the last movie where they were trying to make you feel
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something for this family yes that I did not care about at
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all show me Godzilla fighting [ __ ] well you got a bit of that at the end but I
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yeah I agree I and also the my biggest problem with the the first one was that
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it can't revolve around a family because it's [ __ ] Godzilla Godzilla goes
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where Godzilla goes like why is he why is he following this kid around like
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everywhere this kid goes Godzilla shows up stop it doesn't make S it's 11 she's got power
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oh in this in this trailer yes I'm talking in the first one everywhere
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Godzilla just keeps showing up everywhere it's like like that's I
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didn't they didn't buy that they they really tried to forc down the that that
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family down our throats right and yeah yeah it should have been about Godzilla
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this one yeah Millie B I think this is more so the trailer is going to be
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showing that I think the trailer is trying to show hey there is a story but
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I think once we go to see the movie it's just going to be big monsters wailing on
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each other there's a it seems like there's a lot of monsters in this
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one yeah I saw there was Godzilla there was Mothra what who's the other one uh three
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hedra yeah I don't know what his name is it's a Hydra of some sort it's a trra
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trra cuz it's three trra yeah I think that's his name trra yeah we'll go with
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that it's trra yeah and Charizard
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Godzilla Godzilla Mothra and trra and Pikachu they the three big
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ones and Mecca Godzilla I'd love to see Mecha Godzilla in this
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and Magikarp I don't think that's going to happen I'd love to see Magikarp in a monster
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movie just get stood
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on so yeah I I I don't I I I feel like the trailer didn't allow me to form an
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opinion of the film because it's just it was just a bunch of eye candy almost it
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didn't really tell me anything so no I'm I'm really hoping they have
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learned and they just go to the we just want to see Godzilla yes that's why we
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want in a Godzilla movie
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Godzilla I know it's crazy we've we've
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got some a couple of pieces of Disney news and I don't know which one do you
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want to start with uh all right well we still we just
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stick with the movies or do we want to say this for after dark no I think uh we
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could talk about oh maybe you're right yeah yeah let's let's leave James gun
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getting fir for after dark all right I'm just giving people a bit of a yeah we
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don't want we don't want to get fired by Disney in 10 years for saying the wrong
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thing so uh yes yeah oops I accidentally deleted
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what we were going to discuss and now I've got a formula happening I'm
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confused I don't know what I've done what the well it's all right luckily I
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know what that said before Disney Comcast dropped out of the bidding war
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for Fox which I'm surprised that they dropped out I don't know why they did
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well it was the price was getting up there maybe they were like you know what
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no because I mean I don't know Disney's Disney seemed pretty keen on
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it I think Disney seemed pretty keen on it but like at last I heard Comcast had
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actually offered more yes but then Disney was I mean I
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think they could match any offer from Comcast at this point so look honestly I
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want Disney to win this because I want
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X-Men back I want yeah I want them to merge again i' I was because you know
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they canceled uh the Fantastic for comic books cuz sorry that doesn't make sense
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to people Disney owns Marvel and Marvel yes canceled Fantastic 4 because Fox
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earns the rights to some of those characters they can't make movies about
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them so yeah and all was happening with basically they canel the comics because
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they kept making all these terrible movies and the comics are going why are
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we going to give you free advertising for you ruining our characters and X-Men
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you listeners who don't know if you notice in in the Marvel movies they
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don't refer to anyone as X-Men even if they technically are X-Men like Scarlet
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Witch and uh Quicksilver and that were technically from the X-Men franchise uh
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but they don't call them mutants or don't call them X-Men because they don't
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own the film rights they sold them so yes they would then get all that stuff
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back mhm the other reason why I think Disney are going for it because Disney
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are also starting their own streaming service soon yeah and getting Fox's back
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back catalog as something to stream on there would be quite nice as well so
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that actually end up saving them money in the long run yeah this is they're
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going to get there's a lot of stuff they're going to get with this if it
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goes through yeah there's a ton well the the government said it's all okay as
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long as I think they have to sell off the news department or something quickly
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okay they can't hold on to that part of fox I'm not sure Disney would want the Fox
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News no not quite sure that they would they'd really want that
28:08
so [ __ ] Disney is Unstoppable at this point I guess okay they
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just they just seem yeah they just they're going to own everything keep own
28:19
everything make everything but they they're making good [ __ ] though yes they
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are like they're not just turning out crap over and over
28:30
yeah I know I'm mad at them a little bit
28:32
this week but yes I know but you know
28:37
whatever yeah talk about that in the after dark sorry after party after party
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you [ __ ] did this you you got me saying the wrong thing I said nothing
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yeah this week I did not mention I want to call it after
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dark so yes one step closer to Disney uh being your landlord taking over
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like to submit to our Supreme rulers now
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yeah yeah just get that out the way they also uh Reviving The Clone Wars
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technically that's Disney Disney news um now I never I never watched I never got
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into this no I think we just I think we were the wrong age for
29:19
it yeah also the movies the wrong because we watched the movies and we
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were like oh that's the Clone Wars M and then
29:29
yeah why would we want to relive more of that cuz I have watched a few few of the
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episodes they're not bad I can see why I do have a bit of a
29:39
following but I've heard it's pretty good what I've yeah I've tried to watch but I just
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can't commit that type of time but yeah with the original series evidently there
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were a lot of stories that sort of got cut off they didn't quite get to finish
29:56
yeah so they get to come back and finish off their story oh that's that's
30:02
good yeah maybe uh I know a lot of
30:05
people like like Captain Rex people love
30:10
him he's a stormtrooper of some sort he's a clone trooper isn't he was your
30:16
Clone Trooper yeah see I I didn't really watch it that much he's a clone of um D
30:21
Jango Fett it's Tam Morrison right well probably he probably doesn't the voice
30:27
kiwi yeah well they all are no it's just we
30:31
we knew the we had in our heads what Boba Fett sounded like and then they
30:37
completely changed that when they brought out episode 2 yeah so yeah it's
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it's only going to be on Disney's streaming service apparently so that's
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starting next year isn't it uh I don't
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know but I'm assuming that's going to be a streaming service I'll end up
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subscribing to because they're going to have everything [ __ ] anything that I
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want to see on it they're G have Star Wars and the Marvel movies although I'm
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not I not haven't really watched any of
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the Marvel movies again well except for
31:14
except for two of them that I'm [ __ ] pissed off about this week but that'll be in the
31:21
Afterparty um yeah I'm not yeah but you've got the
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option to go and watch them yeah true sometimes that's all you know you just
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want you like having the option there you may not take it take yourself up on
31:34
it but yeah or I say like something that I'd hopefully see cuz in Australia we
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don't have Buffy on any streaming service so I'm Hing Disney come out here
31:43
we might get Buffy and I can sit down and continue watching that I
31:47
think I think it was on Netflix here it was on Netflix but not in Australia okay
31:54
and then I don't know if it is here anymore I'm not sure me and H were
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watching it enjoying it and then cuz when I was able to use a VPN to get into
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the American one but then when they shut that down yeah um I'd have to go and get
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my DVDs and I'm not putting a DVD in but
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you paid so much money for those things I did and I just I can't bring
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myself to watch DVDs anymore I paid so much I'd have to probably put it in the
32:22
Xbox and the Xbox will probably go hey you haven't watched the Blu-ray thing in
32:27
Forever I need to update the player and yeah it's just too much effort yeah but
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hey you can just watch the new Buffy that they're making
32:39
I'm I I'd really like it to be sort of not completely new reboot but just sort
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of picks up now no it's a reboot it's
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apparent well it's it's just wen's doing it it's a reboot so they're going to
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modernize it which I guess Buffy could do with that cuz it's very
32:59
uh it did not age well no no so apparently there well especially the
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first season yeah um it did get better oh yeah definitely but it was always
33:10
very cheesy and and it had a goofy tone that I think puts people off of bit but
33:15
you know it's what we grew up with so you know so it's a it's a reboot um but
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that's really all I know about it yeah that that's pretty much all there is at
33:24
the moment yeah reboot yeah they've just
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announced yeah and which I'm fine they don't need to announce everything for it
33:33
until they actually we get closer to it yeah but I yeah I would really hope it's
33:39
not like just a complete from fresh I'd just like to see
33:43
it just pick up now from I know the comics did
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extend cuz it finished at season 7 then Comics did continue the story on but I'd
33:53
be happy with just pick up season 8 just go get Sarah Michelle G back have her
33:59
been a libr librarian yeah no because you well as
34:04
long as Jes is in it oh yeah the best they they now own well Jes owns the
34:11
magic shop yep then get her in the library get Willow like these people they're not
34:18
working they would love to get some work again Brendan will [ __ ] do it for
34:25
free the only one who wouldn't come back is what's her name Emma Coffield she's does
34:30
not seem to give a [ __ ] about Buffy anymore yeah but maybe start PID those
34:36
bills again yeah she she'll show up for conventions she just won't be happy
34:39
about it is what it is how it seems to
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me you want to sing no no all right
34:47
fine but yeah Buffy reboot okay I just it's just it's the only reason I'm
34:53
because I love Buffy and Buffy's great don't [ __ ] ruin it please
34:58
I just please don't ruin it although I I mean you can't you can't go back and
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retroactively ruin it so no it's fine it's just yeah I know as I said like I
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prefer like if it just continued off I think it could be interesting instead of
35:14
going back to the start and then explaining the whole thing again and why
35:19
can't we just have new things like no one wants was a thing
35:25
stranger things we got that that was that's perfect it's a new thing and
35:29
everyone loves it yeah and now and watch they'll [ __ ] reboot that next year
35:33
like oh reboot stranger things remember stranger things yeah I do because it was on [ __ ]
35:38
yesterday but there are a ton of new things that go
35:42
nowhere yeah I know well they were back in the day too I
35:47
guess I'm just grumpy you you got to you got to follow the
35:52
money and the money is just getting a name that people already know and
35:57
re-releasing it I know it's just a business decision along with other bunch
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of other Bad Business decisions that were made this this [Laughter]
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week leave that for the Afterparty speaking of Bad Business
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decisions Hulu
36:19
Yep they're going to be making a new television show speaking of vampire
36:23
related Bad Business decisions yeah based on and is vampire Chronicles and
36:29
I'm what look who that's I like the
36:34
vampire Chronicles no this is another thing I grew up with when I was a
36:38
teenager I liked vampires a lot this will surprise nobody and I love
36:44
Interview with the Vampire and I read all the books everybody at school read
36:48
all the all a whole friend group read them probably you didn't Luke I didn't
36:53
no I didn't think so I was reading Star Wars books right but Dan almost certainly did
36:58
uh and I know Dave did and and and Jenna also when she was young did it it it
37:04
appealed to us at the time does anybody care about them anymore is my question
37:09
no well Hulu
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right Hulu thinks that someone does okay cuz they they made a sequel to the movie
37:19
didn't they yes they combined which was terrible
37:24
well it's it has a certain charm it has a certain charm and also it has a friend
37:30
of mine in it so I'm biased but people can be
37:35
people can good in bad things yeah good point they made Queen of the Damned
37:40
which is uh that's one it combined the vampire
37:45
lat and queen of the damn books into one movie and it's cuz isn't it in the
37:51
original one in interview of the vampire he says he doesn't know who it is but
37:55
then lat actually does know the original vampire or some crap uh I have no idea
38:01
the original it's been a long time since I read the books the original
38:04
vampire Akasha is the is the Queen of the Damned and her husband whose Name
38:10
Escapes me they're from ancient Egypt and they the original vampires that is what I
38:16
remember it's been a while but Akasha was played by Aliyah in the
38:22
movie who sadly died shortly afterwards in a plane crash I think oh H and it's a
38:29
pretty good movie if you're if you're
38:30
like '90s uh bands and uh and cheesy
38:36
vampire movies it's pretty good well I just is this uh is this a bit late cuz
38:43
vampire is it is a weird I didn't they just announce recently that that they're
38:47
doing a vampire leat movie with Jared Le I'm sure I I thought so I'm sure they
38:54
announced that cuz I'm I'm pretty sure he twe a photo of the script or
38:58
something a while back so does this mean that's not happening or is this just an extra
39:03
thing Artic I mean I could have probably checked that beforehand but that's not
39:08
why people listen to this show no Jared letter will play a VI vampire in new
39:12
Spiderman spit off oh God he's going to
39:15
be [ __ ] morous is he yes [ __ ]
39:20
hell how could he um is he Joker really wants to be a
39:26
vampire oh God can we can we forget about
39:31
that he's a I like Jared Leto but [ __ ] me he's hitle Miss
39:36
sometimes I I don't like him mainly
39:41
because of how he prepared himself for the role of
39:46
Joker for the Joker and yep you you're not into method acting I'm going to be
39:52
crazy here have a black rat ooh yeah
39:57
you're you're crazy the [ __ ] what would okay what would you well it is crazy you
40:02
don't give animals as pets what what would you have done to to
40:08
create the vibe that you were a kind of a sociopath if you were casting the role
40:13
as the for this yeah Matt I think you'll appreciate this as well I would just
40:18
act sure just get up there read your lines
40:23
do what the director tells you go home
40:30
well tell that to Daniel de Lewis that's all I'm
40:35
saying wasn't Jared letter upset that he filmed like all these extra scenes that
40:39
weren't in the movie yeah he gave him options if that was how he worded it he
40:44
he did yeah again lots of options read the script
40:53
Jared do we uh do we need a new segment it's like Luke's acting tips I thought
40:59
that was a pretty good acting tip no I'm saying you only need the one oh you only
41:03
need the one that's it just show up and read the lines yeah very do what the director
41:09
says go home fair enough actually I I can't do that every everything I've ever
41:14
been in I've always changed the lines you have to skip the words you can't
41:19
pronounce skip the words I can't pronounce or actually well most things
41:24
that I've been in we just made up the lines on the the spot no you don't say
41:29
it like that you don't say it like that you say it was it was improvised that's
41:33
the ah improvised yeah that's the cool way to say what you just
41:38
said see I'm just honest yeah oh we just made that [ __ ] up as we ran along no no
41:44
no some of the scenes were improvised that makes it sound like you're a you're
41:48
a better actor ah I think I'm an okay actor b a yes and
41:55
improv yes and M
42:00
AIDS yeah that's pretty much how our improv went back in the
42:05
90s the joke was just always
42:09
AIDS yeah sorry Disney so video games um
42:15
yes Todd Howard from Bethesda sort of has announced that don't be expecting a
42:21
Morrow wind or a Fallout one remake which I'm sort of weird that he spoke
42:26
about Fallout one yeah I was not considered that would be a thing but all
42:30
right no because that's actually a game I do like to go back and play now fall
42:35
out the original is [ __ ] great I like the second one better only because you
42:40
don't have that annoying time frame at the start again I've never played
42:44
through the second one I really should the second one is funnier okay cuz I I I
42:50
really I I played the first one back when it came out that was a great game y
42:56
uh and do I still have your original copies of that I think may I think I
43:00
gave them back to you but I had I think you did give them back before you moved
43:05
but you had them for a very long time yeah as in like 20 years I had them I
43:09
think but that's right I own I think I've got those discs I also have I own
43:15
it on Gog I own it on Steam like I'm covered I buy games twice so many times
43:20
now because I forget that I have them and it's [ __ ] stupid and I need to
43:23
stop doing it like it's ridiculous I log I I'll Gog it'll be like oh this game is
43:28
on sale and I'm like oh great I'll pick it up it's only a couple of bucks so I'm
43:31
I I mean you know but but still it doesn't that's not the point and then
43:34
I'll log into steam and be like oh [ __ ] I already have that what a [ __ ] yeah
43:37
so you you You' spent a couple of dollars a few times for a game you're
43:41
not going to play yes exactly although in some cases it's a game that I pirated
43:47
uh when I was younger so that's that's that's Karma quite happy to give money
43:52
back that's Karma yeah like Monkey Island for example I have I have
43:57
uh I paid extra for for thimble weed Park to uh compensate for pirating
44:03
Monkey Island as a kid I still need to finish that dible weed Park yeah it's
44:09
good it's good game oh I'm enjoying it but yeah remaster of marind would be
44:15
good except there's already a ton of them on the Internet so they don't
44:19
really need to make one yeah like if if you really want it yeah you could get
44:22
you could get you could play it with Skyrim Graphics there's a mod for that
44:26
fans already did it so I think it's not something they really need yeah I'm not
44:31
surprised that they're not doing it I I also don't think a remake would marwi
44:35
would not be as good as you remember it's not I've tried to play they did
44:39
make it look prettier at the time it was [ __ ] mind-blowing because it was it
44:42
was fully 3D and you could go anywhere and do anything now it's yeah it doesn't
44:47
have some of the refinements that that
44:50
Oblivion and Skyrim have so it's yeah yeah so yeah that but that's part
44:56
of reason why I think they won't go back and do it cuz it's not just updating the
45:00
graphics here you go they would have to go back and just completely redesign
45:03
that game for sure and why would you go back and do that when you can be working
45:07
on new game so I'm fine but yeah people don't ask for a remake of the original
45:13
Fallout just go play that it's still a great game yeah and the game play you
45:17
know they make games like that now because because that game that I I
45:22
really like the turn-based combat in it I've been playing um I've been playing
45:25
it for a long time but I I started playing a little bit again is pillars of
45:29
Eternity because I I love all those old role playing games but I I think I
45:34
prefer the turn-based combat of um yeah
45:38
of Fallout just because it I don't know I guess it's easier so maybe that's why
45:44
but yeah that's what I've always sort of gone back to that's how I like to play
45:48
cuz to me it's more strategic yeah than just like Wasteland 2 Wasteland 2 is a
45:53
good example of it recently yeah that's that's another one I need to go back I
45:57
can finish that's coming out on switch I got up to the F have to buy I got up to
46:01
the first fight died and then stopped playing really no that's a good game
46:07
it's coming out on switch I'm going have to buy again pillars of Eternity 2 is
46:10
coming out on switch that's [ __ ] the switch is killing it I will probably be getting
46:16
something to play in switch cuz I go for surger in October so I'll be in hospital
46:19
for a week so I'm going to be using my switch for that week I can recommend
46:23
some games I got some got some stuff on there that I uh oh man Hollow Knight get
46:28
Hollow Knight it's really good why do I know that name did we discuss that
46:33
recently yeah we you've we've we've uh spoken to the developers like a bunch of
46:38
times at facts Luke you you know you know the people who made the
46:43
game that's why it sounds so familiar yeah they're from Adelaide team Cherry
46:48
it's a really good game and I'm not just saying that because because we didn't
46:52
know them beforehand we know them because they made the game and we we we liked it so
46:57
Did we tell you we saw the guys from armed and gelatinous at PAX East oh
47:01
those guys that was a fun game yeah it's a [ __ ] great game it's even better
47:06
now we played it at at East yeah I unfortunately at the moment still in
47:11
Early Access and I'm refusing to give money to Early Access games I have stopped doing
47:16
that cuz what happens is I play it now when it's early
47:21
access and then I don't go back to it when the full game's out
47:25
I'm there game i' I know I would have liked and probably played a lot more if
47:30
I had the full game but yeah people should go and buy this give yeah give
47:34
him money for Early Access yes win just because I don't do
47:40
something doesn't mean that you do the same as me yep sorry guys make your own
47:45
decisions Neil Blum Camp yeah he uh wants to make a game
47:52
okay so he's just all he did was went to
47:56
Twitter and just basically went to any game shudio he could think of and just
48:01
went I have a game I want to direct with Mex has one go best how thises one go about it
48:06
right and how's it going for
48:10
him uh oh they don't have Cliffy B did
48:14
respond of course which he doesn't make games anymore though does
48:19
he um I think he will be going I think he did make his own shudio but now he's
48:24
going back mainstream or something but yeah he went number one seek funing with
48:29
a fancy PowerPoint in Charisma number two have Publishers arbitrarily approve
48:33
or disapprove for weird reasons three if approved enjoy the [Music] stress
48:40
fair but then uh he did actually get yeah he did actually get an actual
48:46
response though which I forget from what shudio was like yeah have a chat with us
48:50
and he went okay so we might be getting something from him so it's a Mech game
48:55
we don't know any details about it all that's all he said is he'd like to
49:00
direct in in quotes a game with mechs okay cuz uh you know head brain schemes
49:07
who did the shutter Run games just put out Mech Warrior the new Mech Warrior
49:11
which I have I haven't played yet um which is a turn-based combat game like
49:15
Fallout I guess except it's I don't think there a story as such it's more
49:19
about missions and combat but uh I guess I'm just wondering if it's that kind of
49:24
game or is it like a Hawkin style first person shooter we don't anything like
49:27
that no details nothing okay well so we don't even know to even
49:33
see the light of day does he know anything about Game
49:38
Theory I would say he has no idea I bet he has a great story and that's why he
49:43
needs someone else to come up with the game that's probably which yeah he cuz a
49:49
game can actually be a better way to get a story across because instead of having
49:54
like 2 hours to give everything you've got 10 hours to get your story out there
49:59
so yeah but the thing with a game you need to well I don't need to tell you there's
50:05
other things you need to worry about like you know psychologically keeping people
50:10
invested in the game versus just you know well did you hey if I get a Met
50:16
game like Titanfall 2 I love that game that just that game I
50:21
wish i' have got more love than what I did that's like $6 on the cuz the sales
50:25
on right now the ultimate Xbox sale and I was looking at it but I'm like I don't
50:29
think I'll play it but I oh but single story great you will you will have
50:35
feelings for your robot for your Mech I just don't know if I'm going to have
50:39
time to play it so and but but then I was like it's only
50:42
$6 like it might be worth the risk so I just want I got to stop collecting games
50:48
that I'm not going to play but six bucks is the second one was a lot better than
50:52
the first one in the first cuz it had a single player campaign in story The
50:56
Single play was yeah multiplayer yeah like there was story there but you had
51:00
to go hunting for it right like the original Destiny where
51:06
there was a story somewhere but I still don't know where that story
51:11
is I didn't even play the sequel that yeah but if you do get a chance I would
51:15
recommend playing Titan 4 to all right I'll see I like I said I just don't know
51:19
I'll play it so I I don't want to slap down a big $6 on
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