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Chuck in the Morning 9/17 H3: 12th Man Roundtable with Gregg Bell & Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, great morning to you all. Happy Thursday. Football season
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  Speaker 1: is here, and we have one more piece to add
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  Speaker 1: to our football season, and that is the 12th Man Roundtable.
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  Speaker 1: We do it every year. It's a weekly roundtable. event
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  Speaker 1: right here at Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM and it
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  Speaker 1: is back here in 2026 on Chuck in the Mornings.
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  Speaker 1: Our Seahawks insider Greg Bell and our QB1 Hugh Millen
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  Speaker 1: joining Anders and I for a little roundtable action as
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  Speaker 1: the 1-0 Seahawks get set to take on the Arizona
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals this Sunday in Arizona. The Cardinals are also 1-0,
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  Speaker 1: and believe it or not, for our first roundtable, we
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  Speaker 1: are already talking about our backup quarterback having to play
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  Speaker 1: an integral part in this season in Drew Locke. And
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  Speaker 1: so we light this firecracker here on a Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Hugh. How are you doing? I am well.
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  Speaker 1: Great to be with you. Look at that. Do you
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  Speaker 1: see my new background on the Zoom call? They put
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  Speaker 1: me in space on this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't do it, Hugh. I didn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: You look like Clarence. It's a wonderful life. You're trying
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  Speaker 3: to get your wings or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's Carl Sagan over here. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Man, talk about the voice of God coming down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right? Geez.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't do it. I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: it happened. I'm not even capable of doing it. But, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm floating in space right now. My John Glenn. John
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  Speaker 1: Glenn hosting your roundtable. We got Greg Bell here as well.
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  Speaker 1: Happy football season. Happy roundtabling to you, Seahawks insider Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 1: Can you hear me? He looks puzzled. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll try to get Greg up and running here on
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  Speaker 1: the show, but let's go ahead and dive in, Hugh.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to wait any longer.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're impatient. Oh, wow. You are.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, no, I'm not impatient. I went to you.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't there. So now I was going to move
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  Speaker 1: on from that. That's not impatient. Three and a half
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  Speaker 1: minutes into it. All right. Let's talk. I will start
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  Speaker 1: with Greg because I do want to get a Sam
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  Speaker 1: Darnold update here. So what's going on with our quarterback
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  Speaker 1: here in this game?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you won't find it on the injury report because
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  Speaker 2: he's listed as did not participate. But he had cleats
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  Speaker 2: on and was on the field throwing yesterday and doing dropbacks.
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  Speaker 2: before practice by himself on the side field. And that
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  Speaker 2: surprised me. That doesn't portray that he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: out a long time. But Mike McDonald did declare that
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  Speaker 2: he is indeed out for Sunday and Drew Locke will start.
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  Speaker 2: It is telling he's not on injured reserve. It is
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  Speaker 2: telling he's got cleats on and throwing seven days after
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  Speaker 2: the injury. And that it's not a bone issue, it's
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  Speaker 2: a muscle issue. And his rear end is glute. So,
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  Speaker 2: shorter-term injury, as the Seahawks have said, and he's already throwing.
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  Speaker 2: I asked Mike McDonald, does he shut down? And he
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  Speaker 2: said no. He's killing his rehab. He's doing everything. He
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  Speaker 2: just can't play this weekend. So it looks on the
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  Speaker 2: shorter side. I would say it's still optimistic to expect
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  Speaker 2: he'd be able to play next week at Washington in
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  Speaker 2: week three. I think it's more realistic week four that
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  Speaker 2: he returns.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Hugh, when the injury went down, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we were all really worried. So you get that report.
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  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about Sam and his future, his
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  Speaker 1: immediate future here?
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  Speaker 3: I feel very good. I would suspect, just my hunch,
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  Speaker 3: that there's a good chance he'll play against commanders. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that that's anything certain.
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  Speaker 2: But, look.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean to be a party pooper to all
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  Speaker 3: of your fun this week, but I can tell you this.
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  Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with anything near the rectum.
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  Speaker 3: I know that's going to be a disappointment. You have
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  Speaker 3: to find your, you know, I don't know, find another
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  Speaker 3: sandbox to play in.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: But look, if you just kind of piece together just
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  Speaker 3: common sense. He was pointing up at near his hip
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  Speaker 3: when he walked off. Okay, that's a key part of this.
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  Speaker 3: We hear the glutes, we know that's the butt. And
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  Speaker 3: then we say, okay, if you know a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more anatomy, you say, well, I know gluteus maximus, right?
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  Speaker 1: So that's the main butt muscle.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's also the gluteus medius muscle. which is exactly
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  Speaker 3: where he was pointing at. And the muscle attaches up
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  Speaker 3: near the hip. It's part of the glute, but technically, anatomically,
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  Speaker 3: it's the hip. And it's not really a power muscle
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  Speaker 3: for a quarterback, but it is a stabilizing muscle. um,
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  Speaker 3: muscle for the quarterback tendon is where a muscle attaches
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  Speaker 3: to a bone, right? Because bones need, need to be
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  Speaker 3: connected to muscles to move. Like, like it's all pretty
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  Speaker 3: basic anatomy. And so like I would, I would bet
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  Speaker 3: a lot of money on, that this is a strain
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  Speaker 3: of the gluteus medius. And the reason why the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: aren't talking about it is because it's a very uncommon injury.
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  Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. So you don't have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of debt. You know, a guy pulls a hamstring.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a, the NFL has a wealth of information
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  Speaker 3: on what we expect from that soft tissue. But this
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  Speaker 3: is a very uncommon injury. And so, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think that you just kind of proceed with caution, but
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  Speaker 3: I think things are looking good. in the short term
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  Speaker 3: for a Sam Darnold return.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, that does give me a whole new perspective.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, Hugh. I do appreciate that. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's evaluate Drew Locke then. That's our starting quarterback this week. Hugh,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just bounce it right back to you. What did
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  Speaker 1: you see from him in reserve there Wednesday against the Patriots?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think First of all, let's just talk about
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  Speaker 3: the operation because when you talk about making a team
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  Speaker 3: when you're a sophomore in high school or what have you,
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  Speaker 3: the coach has to feel like you can run the operation.
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  Speaker 3: You can get your team in and out of the huddle.
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  Speaker 3: You know how to run the football team at the
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  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. That's a building block of quarterbacking. So
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  Speaker 3: they had a couple of breakdowns.
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  Speaker 1: It happens.
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  Speaker 3: It certainly happens in week one. It certainly happens with
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  Speaker 3: the new offensive coordinator. But knowing Mike McDonald and how
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  Speaker 3: much he takes control of the entire football team and
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  Speaker 3: how he will make sure, like insist, that this is
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  Speaker 3: cleaned up. I think that you're talking about guys, you know,
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  Speaker 3: plenty of experience in the building. Drew Locke, what, eighth year.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be fine. And they just had to
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  Speaker 3: clean up the operation. He kept the ball out of
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  Speaker 3: harm's way. Other than the corner out off to the
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks sideline early on, really not a chance for any
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  Speaker 3: ball to get intercepted.
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  Speaker 1: That was very tight coverage.
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  Speaker 3: And then beyond that, I mean, he had four or
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  Speaker 3: five big-time throws, what I would say, like legitimate NFL
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  Speaker 3: starter caliber plays with guys in his face. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the touchdown pass that he had, the 45-yarder. The Seahawks absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: they completely busted the– protection. Gray's able blocks down the, the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the defensive tackle and the B gap comes on unblocked.
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  Speaker 3: So drew lock, uh, you know, there was no time
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  Speaker 3: to scan the field. He had to just turn and
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  Speaker 3: whirl and get the ball to, uh, in Jigman. And
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  Speaker 3: of course in Jigman made a great play from there, but,
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  Speaker 3: but drew will lock made a hell of a lot
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  Speaker 3: better play than, than you, than you might think. And
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  Speaker 3: so he gets more credit that maybe some are willing to, uh, to, to, uh,
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  Speaker 3: to give in that regard. So, So I just think this,
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  Speaker 3: it's an automatic game ball situation with a job well done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, so Greg, he's had an entire week
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  Speaker 1: to practice, get those reps that he didn't get going
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  Speaker 1: into that Patriots game, and suddenly his world got turned
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  Speaker 1: upside down. So how much does that benefit the situation?
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  Speaker 1: But on the flip side, the Cardinals get to prepare
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  Speaker 1: for a Drew Locke team and not a Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 1: team as well. So that's a little bit something that
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  Speaker 1: goes against Drew Locke. So how does that all measure
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  Speaker 1: out this week?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt in the NFL, if you're facing
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  Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, you've gained as an opponent. There's no rhyme.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he's a backup quarterback. Incidentally, about the game
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  Speaker 2: ball situation, Mike McDonald, after games, regretted that he didn't
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  Speaker 2: give a game ball to Drew Locke immediately in the
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  Speaker 2: locker room. He gave three to the new owners, the
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  Speaker 2: Kozloff family. And then he said, well, maybe Drew Locke
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  Speaker 2: gets a belt or something for competition and the things
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  Speaker 2: they wear around, the WWE belts they wear around the facility.
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  Speaker 2: The difference between Drew Locke this week and last week,
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  Speaker 2: is preparation. He was just thrown in and was ad-hoc-ing
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  Speaker 2: game planning. He wasn't doing the game plan. He was
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of the plays that he ran in
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  Speaker 2: spring and summer and in training camp. That fourth and
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  Speaker 2: one 45-yard touchdown that hit Trout from the left slot
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  Speaker 2: to Jackson Smith and Jigba, where he looked right to
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  Speaker 2: left and it was his third read, that was not
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  Speaker 2: a play in the game plan. And new offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: Brian Fleury said, decided on the fly, instead of running
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  Speaker 2: a game plan play on the fourth and one down 10-3,
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  Speaker 2: the most important play of the game to that point,
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  Speaker 2: let's run a play that Locke ran a lot in
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  Speaker 2: training camp, irregardless of this game plan. And that's the
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  Speaker 2: genesis of that play. This week, completely different. Fleury is
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  Speaker 2: modeling the game plan against the Cardinals defense for what
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  Speaker 2: they've shown so far, yes, but more so to how
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  Speaker 2: Locke can attack. the Cardinals defense. Drew Locke was playing
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  Speaker 2: with how Sam Darnold would attack the defense. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: may be subtleties that aren't really apparent, and they may
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  Speaker 2: run the same plays anyway, but no doubt it was
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  Speaker 2: an ad hoc nature last week. It is an entrenched,
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  Speaker 2: I'm the starter, full week this week. This whole thing
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of Trevoin Boykin. I think I brought it
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  Speaker 2: up with you yesterday, Chuck. We wouldn't even be here.
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  Speaker 2: Drew Locke would not even be here if not for
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  Speaker 2: Trevoin Boykin. Since about eight or nine years ago, we
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  Speaker 2: all remember that they had an undrafted rookie quarterback from
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  Speaker 2: TCU as their number two because Russell Wilson never missed
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  Speaker 2: a snap, a meaningful snap. Well, then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: Ndamukong Suh lands on Russell Wilson's ankle in the opener
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  Speaker 2: when they played the Dolphins. I think it was 2017-18.
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  Speaker 2: And then Wilson... was hurt for the first three, four
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  Speaker 2: weeks of the season. And Travoy Boykin had to play
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  Speaker 2: meaningful snaps early in the game and it scared the
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  Speaker 2: hell out of John Schneider. And since that point, he
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  Speaker 2: has traded twice for backup quarterbacks who have started in
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  Speaker 2: this league, and he signed two of them. Remember, he
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  Speaker 2: traded for Brett Hundley, who had been starting for the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: He traded a six-round pick to get Brett Hundley to
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  Speaker 2: be Russell Wilson's backup after the Travoy Boykin disaster. And
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  Speaker 2: then he made sure Drew Locke was part of that
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  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson trade from Denver. And then he signed Locke
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  Speaker 2: back after he was a year away with the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: And he gave him a two-year deal, which is unusual
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  Speaker 2: for a quarterback of eight years' experience, a backup to
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  Speaker 2: get a two-year deal. This is why he did it,
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  Speaker 2: for this circumstance. The Seahawks think they're going to stay afloat,
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  Speaker 2: that they're not just going to get by, that Locke
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  Speaker 2: will win them games, like he did the December 2023
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  Speaker 2: Monday night game against the Eagles, like he did against
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots last week. So this is what begat Tervoin
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  Speaker 2: Boykin and John Schneider said, never again. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: pay off here the next couple weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, on that touchdown, he'd be reading left to right. Gonzalez,
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  Speaker 3: the corner, matches the back in the flat. He doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have time for the corner out. There was no opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for a hitch. They broke the protection. They turned– the
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  Speaker 3: defensive tackle and the B gap wide ass open. There's
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  Speaker 3: not a protection in the history of football that would
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  Speaker 3: look with a turn, a defensive tackle, uh, uh, Scott
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  Speaker 3: free on that front. Uh, that what underscores it for
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  Speaker 3: me is he, he, he didn't even have a chance
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  Speaker 3: to take one hitch on that. He had to turn
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  Speaker 3: wheel and, and throw somewhat sidearm to get around the
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  Speaker 3: defense tackle was unblocked. And then he had another one coming,
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  Speaker 3: going the opposite direction where, uh, where they put Njigba
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  Speaker 3: in the backfield. He runs a little option route, a
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  Speaker 3: little choice route, sits. He had another guy barreling down
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  Speaker 3: on him, and he's throwing sidearm again with not stepping
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  Speaker 3: the ball in. So this arm talent that John Schneider
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  Speaker 3: was attracted to, he had an out route to Njigba
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  Speaker 3: on what's called a cat blitz. Corner comes off, and
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  Speaker 3: the safety comes over. Guys right in– actually had two
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  Speaker 3: guys in his face because the right guard busts or overset.
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  Speaker 3: And he's throwing kind of sidearm with no body there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's multiple plays where his arm talent, even
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  Speaker 3: on relatively short throws, if you don't have that kind
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  Speaker 3: of juice in your arm, it looks a lot murkier.
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  Speaker 3: And then you go through the backup quarterbacks, the Bailey
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  Speaker 3: Zappies of the world. I've gone through the long list of–
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  Speaker 3: lesser talented backup quarterbacks, they're not making those throws. So,
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  Speaker 3: so you got a guy who has absolutely starter traits
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  Speaker 3: and on several occasions on, on Wednesday night, he showed
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  Speaker 3: starter traits.
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  Speaker 1: How great is it, Hugh? I mean, you've been a
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  Speaker 1: backup in your career to get all of those reps and,
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  Speaker 1: and actually feel prepared entering a football game versus trying
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  Speaker 1: to adjust on the fly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's not just the reps, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's mentally, you know, you, you're generally, you, you got
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  Speaker 3: to the NFL because you started in college. So, so
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  Speaker 3: you're used to wanting to know all week. Well, let me,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to speak for all backup quarterbacks. Some
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks have said, and their play suggests that they do
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  Speaker 3: better when they just, you know, Hey, you know, Tommy,
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  Speaker 3: throw your helmet on and run in at, but, I'll
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  Speaker 3: speak for the group of quarterbacks that prefer it the
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  Speaker 3: other way that, you know, all week and what have you, because,
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  Speaker 3: because that's a routine that you're, you're familiar with. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the other part of it is for Wednesday night, obviously
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  Speaker 3: being the opener and on a relative scale, it was
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  Speaker 3: on the heels of training camp. So he was not
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  Speaker 3: far removed from a period of time when he was
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  Speaker 3: getting a lot of reps because it was in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Had this happened yesterday, on, you know, in mid-November or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, early December, then the accumulation of lack of
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  Speaker 3: reps with the offense. Of course, you're still, you're practicing
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  Speaker 3: against the defense, the scout team quarterbacks, or you're getting
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  Speaker 3: used to the, you're staying used to the speed of
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  Speaker 3: the game, but you're not used to running your offense
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  Speaker 3: with those guys. So I think he got a benefit
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  Speaker 3: from this all happening in week one. Greg, running back
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  Speaker 3: will be a great friend to Drew. A running game
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  Speaker 3: will be a great friend to Drew.
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  Speaker 1: Locke this week. It always is to the quarterback. There
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  Speaker 1: were a lot of people, I think you included, very
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  Speaker 1: satisfied with what they saw from Jadarian Price, but unsatisfied
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't get the ball more. So how much
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  Speaker 1: do you suspect Jadarian Price in the running game is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the focal point of the offense to
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  Speaker 1: help Drew out in his start on Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: A hell of a lot more than it was, especially
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  Speaker 2: in the first three quarters against New England. I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: believe when I was sitting there that he was averaging
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  Speaker 2: eight yards a carry in the first half, yet had
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  Speaker 2: only six touches in the first 25 snaps of the half.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way he should have fewer than a fourth
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  Speaker 2: of the same. When your starting quarterback goes down, there's
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  Speaker 2: no way he should have had a fourth of the carries.
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  Speaker 2: It struck me that Brian Fleury was trying to do
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of everything in the first part of
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  Speaker 2: his first game as an offensive play caller. Get Smith
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  Speaker 2: and Jigba to ball. Let's feature A.J. Barner. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: multiple wide receivers. Get the damn ball to your running
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  Speaker 2: back and let him control down and distance so that
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  Speaker 2: you have third and short and you can do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he had a 13-yard run to begin the game,
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  Speaker 2: and he didn't touch the ball the rest of the drive.
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  Speaker 2: Darnold ended up getting sacked and hurt on third down.
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  Speaker 2: He had a 12-yard run in his next drive, and
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  Speaker 2: he didn't touch the ball the end of that drive either.
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  Speaker 2: He had an 8-yard run for a first down in
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  Speaker 2: the second quarter. Didn't touch the ball the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the next play. Drew Locke got sacked. The drive was over.
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  Speaker 2: It was fits and spurts, and I asked Price after
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  Speaker 2: the game about that. Not only was Price playing for
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  Speaker 2: the first time since November 29th, Notre Dame at Stanford,
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  Speaker 2: when he finally plays, he gets the ball once, and
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  Speaker 2: then 20 minutes of real clock time, real lifetime later,
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  Speaker 2: he'd get the ball again. And he said, yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was tough. It was tough to get into rhythm. He
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  Speaker 2: said the whole offense was having a hard time with
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  Speaker 2: the rhythm of it. The pre-snap penalties, the procedure operational
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  Speaker 2: penalties Hugh alluded to, they had seven of those. Those
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  Speaker 2: should go down with the backup quarterback having a full
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: week of practice. But no doubt, Price should get the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: ball the first three plays of the game. If they
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: have to punt, then they didn't block it well. He
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: should have eight, ten carries in the first quarter. Let's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: see what he does. He didn't have to do that
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: at Notre Dame. He was a backup to Jeremiah Love.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Let's see what he looks like. The Seahawks owe it
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: to themselves to see what their number one draft pick,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: their heir, their replacement for Kenneth Walker, the reason they
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: let Walker walk for all the money he got from
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Kansas City. They owe it to themselves to see, okay,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: who is this guy? I thought it was– I was
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: just baffled into the third quarter at how little they
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: used Price. I asked McDonald after the game about it.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, we're going to look at that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: He said a bunch of other things, but he said, yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: we're going to look at that. And that tells me
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you're going to get a lot of number eight Jadarian
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Price on Sunday.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Ken Walker looked really good on Monday. Hugh, your thoughts
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: on the running back situation?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I agree with Greg. I expected them to show
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: more of Jadarian Price. Now, I do think it's interesting
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to note, You know, I studied just his plays at
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: one point just to kind of see all of them
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: back to back, all of his runs. They're all wide
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: runs other than the second run was what's called a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: duo inside run and that he chose to bounce, which
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: which I think was probably a good read and credit.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: the corner for the Patriots for making the play. But
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I think that it's an unanswered question how he's going
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: to run inside. He's a little bit lighter. That's been
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: an issue that we've talked about. Yeah, I was surprised
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: you didn't– you know, Greg talked about that first drive.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: In my judgment, I think there are a few people
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: around that are a wee– a tad bit over-effusive about
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: George Helani as a running back. And I think it's
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: interesting to note on the plate– play that, you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and one of them being one of the attributes being the, well,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: he did such, such a good pass blocker. Well, he
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: was the one that took the L and pass blocking
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: on the play that Darnold got hurt. The reason Darnold
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: is on the move running to his left and getting
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: chased down by Draymond Jones. It's not, it's not the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: guy who was blocking Draymond Jones, um, which was Abe Lucas.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: It was the halfback who did a poor job in,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: blitz protection. So to me, I don't think the Seahawks,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: as constituted, have a number two running back. You know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I think they have a one and they have three threes.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, until, you know, until Charbonnet gets back or, you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: two or three threes. Um, and I, and I say
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that a little bit for radio effect, but I'm, I'm,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I'm mostly, uh, convicted on that proposition. So we'll see
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: what price I do think it's an interesting point you
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: make that, you know, a year ago, Walker, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: you wanted to just not overload him and then look
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: at how, when, when they really needed him, he was
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: able to put the juice on and he was healthy and,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and his legs were We're ready to go take over
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the games in the most vital games. And that's a
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: fair point. That's absolutely a fair point. So let's see
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: how the Seahawks manage this. I trust the people are
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: making the decisions on that in the moment. I'm thinking
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: as Greg was that, hang on, you just lost your quarterback.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: You may have had a plan for this game to
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: ease Jadarian Price in. Part of the plan that you're
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: talking about, like, hey, let's get Drew Locke his favorite plays.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Let's also, the plan is, let's give the ball the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: price more than we thought because we have a number
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: one tailback.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: We think we have a number one tailback.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: We don't really have a bonafide two because Charbonnet's not there.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Let's let this kid take the workload. against the New
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: England Patriots and we'll sort the rest out. I would
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: have thought it would be a little bit more like that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: They got the win. Let's see what happens Sunday. All right, Anders,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you get the last word on this. You've got to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: be quick because we've got to get the bird.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Anders has been shaking his head vigorously up and down
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: agreeing to follow up.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I need a number for what will satisfy you. Jadarian
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Price touches on Sunday.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going to stick with the one you
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: asked me two days ago.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: 20.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: He has to get 20.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: And that includes running the ball and catching the ball too.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: They've got to get the ball to him out of
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: the backfield.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, so Jadarian's price predecessor from a draft standpoint, the
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: second overall pick late in the first round, the guy
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: for the Chargers, Jadarian.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Help me out.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Amarian Hampton.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Amarian Hampton, okay.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: He at North Carolina averaged 27 touches per game in
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the year before he got drafted. Because of Jeremiah Lyle
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: and Notre Dame, you had price averaged under 10.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: So- He's a smaller guy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Skinny legs.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: He's not used to– yeah, you know, a little bit
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: wide receiver legs, sorry. But, you know, I understand. Look,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: there's some competing objectives here. Everything we're making is like
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: hand him the ball. We all want to see it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: You know, is there some effort to preserve him? Yes,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: that is a worthy objective. How you balance it is
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: what we'll see going forward.
• 22:41
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• 22:43
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• 22:45
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• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I do want to start with some information, Greg. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: saw Nick Emanwuri running out to a padded practice yesterday.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Is there a chance he might play on Sunday against
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals? What's the deal?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: First of all, for those of you watching on YouTube, Yahoo,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: why are you in space? You look like Carl Sagan
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting background you've got going on there.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I don't know why this happened.
• 24:19
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• 24:23
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• 24:25
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• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're on PBS or something. Yes. Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Nicky McMurray was in full pad yesterday, but then they
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: listed him as a limited practice participant by NFL rules.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: That means he did not participate in 100%. of his
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: normal activities with the team. He has not had a
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: full practice since June. He hasn't had a full practice
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: since the July surgery on his arthroscopic surgery on his ankle.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to play. I think there's
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a competitive advantage for McDonald to remain coy about this,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and I just don't see if he suddenly fully practices
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: today that three days after his first full practice today,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: in four months, three months, that he's going to play
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: in a game. I don't think that's smart for the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: long-term health of the defense and for what McDonald wants
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: to use Nicky Mahory for. He might. There's a chance,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and I think McDonald's going to say there's a chance,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and I think they're going to list him as questionable.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to keep saying limited to keep
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals guessing, but my hunch is no. Ty Okada
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: didn't practice yesterday, so here we are back in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: same situation we were last week with both their starting
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: safeties out. I think that's going to mean that a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: A couple safeties are coming up from the practice squad.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: To me, the question at safety is, is Trevon Diggs
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: ready to go? They've been trying to ramp him up
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: his legs, learning the schemes. Well, now I think he's
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: got time. He's known that. And now they think you
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: may see him make his Seahawks debut on Sunday. If
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: he's up from the practice squad, I think he may
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: start next to Julian Love as it stands now.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Well, Nehemiah Pritchett stepped up. Rodney Thomas stepped up. Guy
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: stepped up. Hugh, that seems to be the nature of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this defense under Mike McDonald. Your first impression of how
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: they performed last week, was that more Drake May struggling
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: or Mike McDonald putting it to him again?
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I just keep coming back to how well coached
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Seattle is on defense. We had heard overtures in the
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: offseason that Pritchett was really a guy that they felt
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: had made some progress in year three here and that
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: had got more physical in the weight room and that
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: had a chance to take that to the field. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: so they really were counting on him. Well, it all
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: played out on Wednesday night, all of their optimism. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: so you get essentially an interception caused by a guy
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: from a safety that was literally on the street. Now,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: he was in your training camp, but you had to
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: cut him. He was available to everybody else. And so
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I think, yes, we would love to have Eamon Worry
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: on the field. That's a hard stop. But since you
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: don't have him, one of the advantages is that all
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: these guys getting the experience, when they're playing the long
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: game and they want to be playing to mid-February, this
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: is going to matter. the experience that they're getting now.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You know, obviously you don't want to kick an L
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: in this division. If you're going to lose division games,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: you don't want it to be to the Cardinals. So
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's worth a loss, but this is
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: where they're at and they're going to have the benefit
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: down the line, Greg.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the Cardinals while we have time here.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, at the beginning of the year, everybody in
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: their pocket schedules put a W next to this game.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And now, Hugh, all of a sudden you've got yourself
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback starting. The Cardinals beat the crap out
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of the Chargers to start the season. And Mike LaFleur
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator of that Rams offense, which seemed
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to have Mike's number a little bit in those last
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: two matchups of the season. So maybe we've got to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: take this Cardinal team a little more seriously. What do
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's an interesting study based on that
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: note you just said. If If he's able to have success,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: then the conclusion is that this could be scheme-driven because
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the Rams had their success. In fact, what an irony.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: The Seahawks set their number one in the NFL in
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: not only points per game but EPA and all these
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: other things, and some of their stats you have to
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: go back to early in the century. So it was
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: a great defense, and yet the Seahawks' defense a year
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: ago set the all-time NFL record for most yards allowed
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: by a quarterback in back-to-back games with no interceptions in
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: those games. I think it was 842. It might be 832.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: But that's what Matthew Stafford did. So now you've got
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: that coach coaching the Cardinals. They had a hell of
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: a game. Now, they were not explosive for the most part.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: There were six completions of air yards of 10 yards
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: or more. One of them was a deep ball to
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison up the left sideline But yeah, there's a
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: scheme question about this for sure. Now, Brissett was, I
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: would say, very efficient. He had the high completion percentage,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: not necessarily terribly explosive. They just played in 11 personnel,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: which is the three wide receivers, one tight end. The
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: tight end, McBride, is the biggest. problem coming in the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: passing game. And so I think that it should be relatively,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: you know, you're not seeing the personnel groupings that you
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: saw with the Rams, the 13 personnel with the three
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: tight ends and the multiple, you know, and the fullback
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: in the backfield. So I think that it's a little
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: bit more of a vanilla look for Mike McDonald looking
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: at this offense that played almost exclusively out of one
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: personnel group, that being 11 personnel.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Greg, what's your reaction to the Cardinal matchup here? What's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the thing that stands out most to you?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Well, the way that they beat the Chargers, they had
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a 37.5 to 22.5 time of possession edge. They were
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: plus two in turnovers, and when you're plus two in
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: turnovers on the road, you're going to win a lot
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: of the time. They kept the ball away from the Chargers.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Chargers only had 51 snaps on offense in that game,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: game just 268 yards. Brissette is... Hugh mentioned have fished
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: at 27 to 37. They ran the ball 34 times
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and threw it 37 times. In the NFL, that's unusual.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: That's like Seahawk numbers. It wasn't Jeremiah Love. It was
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Tyler Algier. You remember him from the Atlanta Falcons. He
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: had 17 carries and 61 yards. Love had 11 carries,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: 41 yards, and a touchdown in his NFL debut. They
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: ran 116 yards on the ground against the Chargers. That's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: a balanced offense that played from the lead most of
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the game. That's not what the Seahawks have in mind,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that they're going to be chasing this game from behind.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I just can't get over the fact that Jacoby Brissett
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: is the starting quarterback in this game. And I've talked
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: about the difference between the Mike McDonald Seahawks of the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: last two years and the Pete Carroll Seahawks at the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: end of his regime when it became obvious it was
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: time to change, is they beat quarterbacks and teams they
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: should beat. No more Cade McNowns and Josh McNowns and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: every McNown ever played in the league coming in and
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: beating the Seahawks. And all these cast-off quarterbacks, we've seen them.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: And the Cardinals had two or three of them come
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: in and beat the Seahawks in Lumen Field. That hasn't
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: happened the last couple years. When they have opponents they
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: should beat, they pummel them most times. I just can't
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: see Jacoby Brissett leading an offense to multiple touchdowns against
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks' defense. I just don't. I think the Cardinals
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: are going to run the ball quite a bit, rely
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and hope for a field position game, and then try
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to get turnovers to make it a shorter field to
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: score points on Seattle's defense Trey McBride that you mentioned
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: kills the Seahawks yeah they run they've run tight end
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: screens with him they've run deep stuff they've run crosses
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: they treat him like a wide receiver running back against
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and he has just destroyed them no matter
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: who the quarterback has been that's probably a central point
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of the game plan they'd love to have even a
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: worry to cover him they don't it'll be interesting to
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: me who they devote to McBod do they do Rodney
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Thomas as the fill-in safety in the middle of the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: field against Trey McBride. If I'm the Cardinals in LeFleur,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I'm having McBride match up all over the field against
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and see who they want to dare cover
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: him with. I think you're going to see Pritchett again
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: because of how he was successful last week, especially in tackling.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: McDonald didn't like Pritchett's tackling during training camp and preseason.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: It was why they tried Noah Igbenogany for a while
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and taking his spot with the number one defense. But
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: if he tackles and he performs like he did last week,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: then he can have– McDonald can keep Witherspoon inside where
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: he wants him to affect more of the game as
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: a nickel. You're going to see that again on Sunday.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: But I just– Jalen Milrow could be the starting quarterback,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: and I would say the same thing. The Seahawks will
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: win this because the defense will dominate Jacoby Brissett.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I think there's an interesting storyline. Seattle let Boye Moffey
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: go last year. And now, of course, he's with Cincinnati,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and he made an impact They kept Derek Hall because
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Derek Hall is a more complete player, more of a
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: first and second down player. He holds the edge. Now
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: you mentioned the head coach is the offensive coordinator from
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the Rams. That's an outside zone team. The other day
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: they were 44%. By far the biggest percentage of their
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: plays were the wide zone. And so setting the edge
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: by Derek Hall. Leonard Williams played 23 snaps of some–
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: variation of right end more. That was more than he
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: played defensive tackle. So, so I think one, if I
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: were to say, is there a personnel concern that I
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: have about Seattle? It might be that I, we don't
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: see that Twitch coming off the edge. I don't know
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: that they're, they're really explosive, um, at the defensive end position,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: but they're physical and they need to hold the edge
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: on the outside runs. That's going to be a factor for, uh,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: for this Sunday.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: One more segment of our 12th man round table. First
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: one of the football season. We will get predictions and
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  Speaker 1: Hughes final thoughts next sports radio, 93.3 KJR FM. See,
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  Speaker 1: he was getting in the spirit of things for a
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  Speaker 1: second there. He was hanging out with the Aurora Borealis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then he joined me in space, and now look at him.
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  Speaker 1: He's on the Hawaiian beaches that Greg Bell was just
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  Speaker 1: trotting not too long ago.
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  Speaker 2: Look at you.
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  Speaker 1: Look at you. You're globetrotting on us. It's a little
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  Speaker 1: warmer down here than up there with you in space.
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  Speaker 1: That is true.
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  Speaker 2: Palm trees.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling good?
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  Speaker 2: I just look a little bit like the North Shore.
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  Speaker 1: You look like you need a parka up there. Go
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  Speaker 1: kick some dirt in some nerd's face.
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  Speaker 3: Our radio listeners are just like, what are you guys
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  Speaker 3: talking about?
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  Speaker 1: We're on a Zoom call now. And for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: I clicked on my Zoom and this has never happened before.
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  Speaker 1: I was floating in space. I had a background. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a topic here today.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And our first roundtable. I hope this stays for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the year. If it doesn't. I had nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with it because I have no idea how
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  Speaker 1: to make that happen.
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  Speaker 2: Mystery science theater. Yeah. It looks a little bit like that.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's close out our first round table with predictions.
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  Speaker 1: Huge final thoughts. Greg Anders is new at this. So
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  Speaker 1: show them how it's done. Give us a, what kind
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  Speaker 1: of game you expect on Sunday against these Arizona Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: and a final score.
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  Speaker 2: Another one led by the Seahawks defense. I think Demarcus
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  Speaker 2: Lawrence is going to have a really big game. Hugh
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  Speaker 2: talked about the physicality off the edge, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: Lawrence specializes in. We saw him wreck Drake May and
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots on the final play and forcing the interception.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about it. Hugh, that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst passes an NFL quarterback can make in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: The decision and the physical throw was just a putrid choice.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the receiver, you know what? If you're coaching receivers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave no help.
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  Speaker 3: Just, well, you don't have to bat the ball down.
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  Speaker 3: Just grab him.
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  Speaker 1: Like, grab him.
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  Speaker 3: Do a horse collar. Take the offensive pass interference. It's
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  Speaker 3: 10 yards. You know, and you kick a field goal
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  Speaker 3: the next down from 10 yards further back.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't see the Cardinals. They're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to run the ball for 200 yards to beat the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think that's going to happen either. I
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  Speaker 2: just don't see Jacoby Brissett winning this game. I think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to see more of Price, as I said.
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  Speaker 2: I think it'll be Price's coming-out party of 20 carries
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  Speaker 2: for 110 yards, and the Seahawks win, let's call it 20-9.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the Cardinals get a touchdown. 20-9.
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  Speaker 1: No touchdowns for the Cardinals. All right, there you go, Anders.
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  Speaker 1: There's your blueprint. What kind of game are you expecting?
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  Speaker 1: Give me a score.
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  Speaker 4: I do think it's going to be a little bit closer.
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  Speaker 4: The Cardinals' ability to control the clock, which they showed
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  Speaker 4: against what should have been a good offense and defense,
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  Speaker 4: for that matter, in the Chargers, was surprising to me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they will be as effective in doing
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  Speaker 4: that in Week 2. The Seahawks do come out with
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  Speaker 4: a win. I think the preparation for Drew Locke, they
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  Speaker 4: kind of— unlock him a little bit more why not
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  Speaker 4: why not new dad got to lean into it a
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  Speaker 4: little bit um i hope we get more price because
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  Speaker 4: i think that means better things for the seahawks running
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  Speaker 4: game and i think that means better things for the
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  Speaker 4: seahawks offense overall i think they do that they get
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  Speaker 4: 24 points but the cardinals make it close late and
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  Speaker 4: uh get a touchdown to make it 24 to 20
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  Speaker 4: for the final score.
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  Speaker 1: 24-20. Look at that. 20 points for the Cardinals against
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's defense. All right, Hugh, I know you watched
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  Speaker 1: that game between the Cardinals and the Chargers. Let's close
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  Speaker 1: out with your thoughts on that. How on earth did
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers get steamrolled by the lowly Arizona Cardinals?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, watched every play. First of all, it struck me.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go from the Chargers' perspective. Now, Seattle plays... the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the chargers on October 4th. So we'll get into this more, but,
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  Speaker 3: but Mike McDaniels, the new offensive coordinator, uh, down there.
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  Speaker 3: And I felt like his main objective was to be
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  Speaker 3: creative instead of to move the football because he was
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  Speaker 3: having the funkiest. I, we don't have the time to
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  Speaker 3: get into detail, funkiest formations, uh, That made no sense
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  Speaker 3: with guys five yards off the ball and they're running
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  Speaker 3: up the field. And you're like, wait a minute, you're running,
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  Speaker 3: you know, five yards just to get the line of
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  Speaker 3: scrimmage on a vertical route. Crazy motions, whirly board. The
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  Speaker 3: things they were trying to do with Justin Herbert's feet
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  Speaker 3: going to his left, spin around, throw to his right.
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  Speaker 3: It was like they were just wanting to show off
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  Speaker 3: his arm talent, which he has now. elite arm talent,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, it, it just, there was a lack
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  Speaker 3: of basic football there. Now from the Cardinal perspective, I thought,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, the left guard and right guard for
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers, that was a miserable game for them. So
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  Speaker 3: not even looking at the person, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: personnel flowing in and out of there. That's a concern
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  Speaker 3: for me, the middle of that defensive line for the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 3: The other part of it, I thought They were running
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  Speaker 3: man concepts or zone concepts rather against man. And so
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  Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of guys open there for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that the Cardinals played great red zone defense.
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  Speaker 3: When they played zone, they had a good understanding. They
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  Speaker 3: looked like they were communicating well. It's so much that
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  Speaker 3: prompted me. They got a new head coach. who's the
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  Speaker 3: new defensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 1: Like, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it turns out it's the same guy, Nick Rallis.
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  Speaker 3: He's been there since 2023. So what that game was,
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  Speaker 3: was an offense in the Chargers with a new offensive
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  Speaker 3: coordinator going against a defense that had some continuity. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that showed throughout the tape. So in any event,
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  Speaker 3: that's some of the matchup concerns I have. That's some
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  Speaker 3: of the scheme concerns I have. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: they appear to be more formidable now than I would
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  Speaker 3: have thought.
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  Speaker 1: Um, they look good.
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  Speaker 3: They look good, but it's hard to, it's hard to decipher.
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  Speaker 3: Was that more Cardinal defense or just the, the chargers being,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like kind of laying an egg quite honestly. And, and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I know Herbert's going to get to take
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  Speaker 3: a lot of great there. There, there was not a
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  Speaker 3: lot there to, uh, tell me any quarterback you want,
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, put anybody under center at what, that would
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  Speaker 3: not an easy day to be a quarterback. And, and so, uh,
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  Speaker 3: How much of that the Cardinals charge or excuse me, created?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I think you got to simplify it and and
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  Speaker 3: just go play, you know, steak and potatoes type of football.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for the analysis. Also for the anatomy
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  Speaker 1: lesson earlier. I really needed that. OK, well, I know
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  Speaker 1: that's going to come in handy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just thought he got his taffy pulled. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I thought happened.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm in the same general area, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm going with gruteus medius.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to go with logic and science and facts.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you're going to go with. It's fun to play.
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  Speaker 1: I can respect that. Yeah, it's fun. So we got.
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  Speaker 2: This until Darnold returns to play. This is the line.
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  Speaker 2: This is what we got. Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not ruling it out. I'll say that. Not ruling
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  Speaker 1: it out. Gentlemen, excellent start. Thank you very much. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do it again next week. All right, Seahawks insider Greg Bell,
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  Speaker 1: who will be back on the airwaves here at 10 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: So just an hour away for more from Greg and
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  Speaker 1: our QB1, Hugh Millen. joining us as well. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: have him back on Friday for his X is an
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  Speaker 1: O segment at nine o'clock. Coming up next, we got
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  Speaker 1: a couple more of these. We're going to treat them
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  Speaker 1: as precious. Ryan Healy will join us. Yeah, we got
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