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Episode 126: Get The Manager · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Hello everybody and welcome again to the Tom and Gerry
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: show with myself, Gerry McBride, and him good self, Tom O'Mahony.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: They don't sponsor us or anything, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: give a shout out to my barber.
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  Speaker 2: Got the ears lower, Tom.
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  Speaker 1: How am I looking?
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  Speaker 3: I see that. I thought there was more screen space,
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  Speaker 3: all right, as you were looking at me. I see that.
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  Speaker 3: I can see that, the full lot of the picture,
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: Fred Dibna beside you. Yeah, I went for, got a very,
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  Speaker 3: it was a speakeasy style haircut we got at the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Our local barber who was most definitely fucking closed. But
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: I texted him and went, you're hardly opening this pop
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: in there. And it was, you felt like after hours,
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: like we locked the door behind you and there was
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: a couple of lads in there. Myself and Bi went
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: in and I mean, This lad can fucking move. Keelan
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: the barber, he can move. I mean, he'd have less
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: to cut on me than the young fella. I won't lie.
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  Speaker 1: He'd get through you rare lightly now. And he's getting
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: through me rare lightly with each pass and go as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's the oddest one now. My missus says, don't get
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  Speaker 1: your regular haircut. Get such and such a haircut. It'll
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  Speaker 1: look nice. And now, thank you. I've got a job
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  Speaker 1: to do every morning. You know what I mean? It's
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  Speaker 1: not just my usual sort of, yeah, looks grand.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, why did you do this?
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  Speaker 1: I've got a whole sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Why did you listen to that advice?
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  Speaker 1: Why do we listen to anybody, Tom? Why do men
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  Speaker 1: listen to their wives? No, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: On that front, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I think I might be going for the rare double
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  Speaker 1: haircut back in a week's time and saying, no, come here,
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  Speaker 1: fucking take another shot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to have to break
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  Speaker 3: in this one. Can you start?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. You don't even have to do
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  Speaker 1: the sides again. They're grand. They'll do for another wee while.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, haircuts not with San and Tom podcasts are
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  Speaker 1: not a visual medium. But we might throw up a
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  Speaker 1: picture on the socials of our lovely new Gruiga.
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: Do you know what somebody asked me the other day?
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  Speaker 3: They were like, where there's no photo evidence of you
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  Speaker 3: or Gerry as children anywhere online. I disputed it.
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  Speaker 1: Who the fuck was looking for that?
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  Speaker 3: I guess it was just to see how much we have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, looked like the fucking Crypt Keepers now at
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: this stage versus our childish looking looks. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 3: I put up a picture that even you saw where
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  Speaker 3: I looked like a 55-year-old toddler in a cardigan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But there wasn't... Here's the thing. I don't think there
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: was many photographs taken, if you know what I mean.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: No, there wasn't, Tom. A camera or a reel of
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: film would come with you if you went anywhere on holidays. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it wasn't like today. We don't want to get
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  Speaker 1: into we remember when, but it wasn't like the day
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  Speaker 1: where you had just taken 50 pictures a day of
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  Speaker 1: yourself standing at every fucking bus stop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, I can, I'm sure I can root
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  Speaker 3: out a couple of funny ones and give it to
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  Speaker 3: Gerry to put up on the socials.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what we can do. We may have looked
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: better in the past, but we've never sounded better, Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not in peak form.
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  Speaker 3: Peak chips, Gerry. I just needed to tell you about it.
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  Speaker 3: I know we'll get on with the show, but I just, I,
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: have you ever been, do you know sometimes you have
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: chips and you're not even hungry? Because chips are class, right?
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  Speaker 3: I know we talked about the deep fat fryers and
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  Speaker 3: all the rest of them and I stopped in Douglas
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  Speaker 3: Village on the way back from Outwashed in Cork in
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  Speaker 3: Ishanan not very west just outside the city and on
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  Speaker 3: the way back I stopped in Cork got a bag
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  Speaker 3: of chips shout out to Donatello's they were the proper
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  Speaker 3: non-anemic you know the anemic looking chip you get that
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  Speaker 3: gets gets to look at the oil for 20 seconds
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  Speaker 3: and then gets fucked in the bag not the doll
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  Speaker 3: these are properly fucking vinegary properly salty had been on
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  Speaker 3: a right sun holiday these chips and were crispy in
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  Speaker 3: the bag oh my Jesus Christ I just need to
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking of you, but I said, there's no
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  Speaker 3: point in messaging.
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  Speaker 2: I actually did message you.
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  Speaker 3: I messaged you. It inspired me to message you about
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  Speaker 3: this evening's fucking, we remember when.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. More on that. More on that as we
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  Speaker 1: get it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to share again. I know I'm dragging
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  Speaker 3: this over the fucking coals now, but there is no
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  Speaker 3: air fryer in the land that could have produced the
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  Speaker 3: happiness that I had on my passenger seat driving down
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  Speaker 3: the MAs the other night.
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  Speaker 1: Let it go, Tom.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. No, that's it. That is it. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I just want... That is signed, sealed and gone now.
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  Speaker 3: No more talk about that. But I just wanted to
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  Speaker 3: say that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. And that's the free shout out
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  Speaker 1: over for the show. If you have a business and
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  Speaker 1: you would like us to speak fondly of you... Just
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  Speaker 1: provide us with chips.
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  Speaker 2: Get talking to.
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  Speaker 1: Us we're cheaper than you might think because we put
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: out fucking great content every week Tom such as the
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: opening segment of the Tom and Jerry show which we
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: call the weekly what have you this is a very
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  Speaker 1: complicated case mod you know a lot of ins a
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: lot of outs a lot of what have yous and
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of strands to keep in my head man
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  Speaker 1: what are you having yourself Tom Miss Kelly Clarkson American
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  Speaker 1: Isle herself America's sweetheart, Kelly Clarkson, who I bear, you know,
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  Speaker 1: no ill will towards. She's got a couple of songs
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  Speaker 1: that I kind of like, fair enough. I don't mind
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  Speaker 1: her one way or another, but she was the lead
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  Speaker 1: character of the internet over the weekend, as we record here,
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  Speaker 1: because of her interactions with a Brooklyn toy shop. Have
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  Speaker 1: you seen this? Did you see this before I brought
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  Speaker 1: it to you, or am I just like way too
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  Speaker 1: fucking online?
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  Speaker 3: You're very online, but I, do you know, I get
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  Speaker 3: a sense when I see a thing like this, I miss,
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  Speaker 3: I get, I get notifications. All right. Um, and there'll
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: be nine of them from the one news article and I,
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  Speaker 3: I'll miss, you know, I'll find, uh, man invents new
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  Speaker 3: fucking light bulb, you know, and he, it sticks it
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  Speaker 3: up his hole and I'll read that and I'll go,
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: and then you'll send me on one. And I'm guarantee
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  Speaker 3: it was probably in the same zeitgeist. It was probably
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: around the corner. I've sensed it was, but I did. Yeah. I,
• 6:05
  Speaker 3: I know, I see lots of clips of Kelly Clarkson
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  Speaker 3: and as I told you, like, I, anybody who presents
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  Speaker 3: one of those talk show, well, they're not even talk show,
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: what are, I don't know what they're, interview show of
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  Speaker 3: other famous cunts. I like, I, they're just so conceited, like.
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  Speaker 1: It's very, it's very, it's very manufactured.
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  Speaker 3: It's so grotesque how manufactured, I mean, there's, you can
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: go too hard the other way too, but this is just,
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: I get it. You know, Conan would have his very blatant,
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: but he would have you set up with what's coming
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  Speaker 3: and he would tee it up and he'd stand up
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  Speaker 3: and enjoy himself. This one just can't wait to pick
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: up the fucking microphone or go fucking warbling at you
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  Speaker 3: or lepping up and down like fucking Tom Cruise on
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  Speaker 3: the couch. And it's like, oh, she's everybody's best friend.
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  Speaker 3: She wants to ride everybody. She wants to go on
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  Speaker 3: holidays with everybody. Oh, she sickens my pipe now.
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  Speaker 1: I won't.
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  Speaker 3: I really can't tolerate her. And I'm sure she's either
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  Speaker 3: one or the other. She's a fair sound behind it
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  Speaker 3: or she is actually that. There'll be no grey area.
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee you she's either that or actually a thunderball
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  Speaker 3: of shite in real life.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's find out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's find out your personal thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: About her, Tom, notwithstanding.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us how you really feel, Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for those. She got into... Now, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about manufactured drama. This is manufactured drama. She went to
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  Speaker 1: a toy shop, a quaint little hipsterish toy shop in
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn that sells antiquities and rare items and shit like this.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Smith's Toy Superstore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted to... She asked about the price of a
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  Speaker 1: little mechanical bird that was on the wall. And as
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  Speaker 1: she reported it to her millions of followers on Instagram...
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  Speaker 1: She was given the high hat by the staff who
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  Speaker 1: were like, oh, not recognizing her as Kelly Clarkson. Because
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  Speaker 1: she's wintered well, Tom. Not recognizing her.
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  Speaker 3: As Kelly Clarkson. She has an unfairness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Turned around and told her, you know, that's very expensive. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson took offense to this. Thought it was very
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  Speaker 1: much like, no, you can't afford it. So Kelly Clarkson,
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  Speaker 1: not liking being treated like a poor person, stormed out
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  Speaker 1: of the shop. put it up on Instagram that this
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  Speaker 1: particular shop, which she named in full, had given her
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  Speaker 1: bad manners and poor service and advised people not to spend,
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  Speaker 1: if they're in the market for a $ 15, 000 mechanical board,
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  Speaker 1: don't go to Art of Play in Brooklyn. And then
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  Speaker 1: the Art of Play came back and said, well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Clarkson was treated with the utmost respect and as
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  Speaker 1: much as can be mustered in a hipster Brooklyn toy shop.
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  Speaker 1: The CCTV footage leaked online Everybody's going back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of these real fucking manufactured things. And all
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  Speaker 1: it has said to you and I in the Tom
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry show, that be you staff or be you customer,
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  Speaker 1: some people in this world just don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: act in a shop.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny you say that because it stuck out to
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  Speaker 3: me on Friday night. I was in Charleville. And did
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: a gig.
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  Speaker 1: Buying chips Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. No no no.
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  Speaker 1: Did a gig.
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  Speaker 3: And wanted to pop up. I needed a coffee. And
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  Speaker 3: went to a shop. Just around the corner.
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  Speaker 1: After the gig.
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  Speaker 3: And the level. Of. Just pleasantness. From the very young staff.
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  Speaker 3: That were in there. Was notable. You're like.
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  Speaker 4: Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: Like to the point where I was like. You have
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  Speaker 3: a lovely night now. They're like. No you have a
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: lovely night.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. And as you said, some people are built
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: for it. And as people are getting busier and busier,
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: I think we've touched on this before, like life is
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: getting crazier and it's harder to actually keep your shit together.
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  Speaker 3: So standards have dropped Standards in customer service have dropped.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: Standards in people's fucking manners have dropped. But I don't
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: think any of that actually applies to this scenario, Ger,
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: because you're two peas in a pod here, is I
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  Speaker 3: think what you have. You've a shop that is custom
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  Speaker 3: made for people who have heaps of money and all
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  Speaker 3: day to spend it and all day to spend it
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  Speaker 3: there was no mention of the fact that the shop
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: is at is number 69 on the street nobody mentioned
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: it once not once a bunch of unfunny cunts waiting
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: for the tom and jerry show i know so art
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  Speaker 3: of play sounds dirty anyway they have all sorts of
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: things going on inside there there i do like and
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: i think maybe she took this is where she took
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  Speaker 3: offense right one of the items because your man was
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: like whether he went pop but that bird, madam, is 15,000.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: And she was like, you gave me the pretty woman treatment.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, how old your fucking horse is there now, girl?
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Let's just slow down.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: Slow your gallop there now. That was Julia Robertson, her 20s,
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: got the pretty girl treatment when she was, in fact,
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: a pretty fucking girl.
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  Speaker 1: I think the bit, I don't know if you've seen
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Pretty Woman, Tom, in Pretty Woman, she walks in with like,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: with like thousands upon thousands to spend, but she is dressed,
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  Speaker 1: with respect, like a prostitute.
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  Speaker 3: Which is a valid point on a woman's behalf.
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  Speaker 2: You know, which is her stock and trade.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going all Shane Gillis here. No, she is
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  Speaker 1: an actual prostitute in the movie. She is a sex
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: worker and is dressed for business. Yeah. And goes in
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  Speaker 1: to buy a bunch of stuff and has money in
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: her pocket, but one sees her and gives her the
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  Speaker 1: high hat and is like, no, you can't afford it
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  Speaker 1: in this shop. Get out of here. And Kelly Clarkson
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  Speaker 1: feels that she got that kind of treatment because I'm
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson. I've got millions upon millions. I mightn't have
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Mariah Carey money, but I got money. But you look
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  Speaker 1: me up and down and you treat me like you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't possibly afford that bird on the wall. Must be
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: stressed as well, folks, that the art and play is
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: a toy and games shop. I've seen the CCTV TV
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: footage of it. Didn't see many children in it, Tom.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: No, not many children are going to be dropping 15k
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  Speaker 3: for what looks like. And lads, when I read it first,
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: I thought we were going to get some Game of
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  Speaker 3: Thrones level fucking flapping dragon fucking thing on the wall.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was going to be like the
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  Speaker 1: fucking mechanical owl from Clash of the Titans.
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And it's a little old fucking yellow tit
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: sitting on top of a yoke and there's underneath it,
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: there's a pulley system about four foot down and that's it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's scandalous what they charge for. But anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I think what probably tipped her over the edge was
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: he walked around and showed her a couple of other
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: bits that might be more reasonable. Because, again, didn't recognise
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: her as being Kelly Clarkson. Because you take away the
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: name Kelly Clarkson or you take away her fame, she
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: just looks like a regular middle-aged out one.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: I think that's why she's America's sweetheart. She was just
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: like a girl next door kind of type.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: But your man brought her over to show her a
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: couple of other bits and pieces. And one of them
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: was actually... for $ 1, 200 it was $ 1, 200 for this it
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: was a an automatic clapping applause machine so it would
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: applause which I undoubtedly would believe that Dyer airs many
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  Speaker 3: of those on the fucking set of her show when
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: she has it because.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Focus Tom we can't just be slamming Kelly Clarkson it's.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: One of the most unentertaining heaps of shit I've ever
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: seen but it's when you cut to your man then
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: you're like Jesus Christ, the two of you could be
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: fucking friends. He's like, this fella, if all he sold
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: was vegan beard flavoured coffee, you'd go, I get you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I see that. I see that. Because he has all
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: the look of a Brooklyn, you know, novelty shop owner
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  Speaker 3: where there isn't a single thing under a thousand fucking
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: dollars inside their life.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: It battles me that someone comes into the shop and
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, you clearly can't afford that $ 15, 000 mechanical bird.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Let me take you over to the $ 1, 000 mechanical bird aisle.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I feel if you have $ 1, 000 to spend on a
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: mechanical toy of any fucking nature, you probably have $ 15, 000.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Tom, can I ask you a question?
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: You can, yeah. Have you ever worked retail in your life?
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I worked.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: The pause says no, Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Only in bars. Only in bars, really. I've never... Yeah.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: The service industry, as I believe it's called.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have never worked in the service industry.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: I have worked in retail. And I got to tell you,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I feel you'd probably be the same about working in
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: a bar. Everybody, this is not an uncommon thought, everybody
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: should work a job like that for a year. 100%.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Like national service.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you should, yeah.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: You should be put into.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Into a job in fucking Lidl or Ikea or wherever
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: it might be and just get to deal with people.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: And when you get to deal with people, Tom, you
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: will then go for the rest of your life. Number one,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: never wanting to be treated like that again. Number two,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: never wanting to treat anybody like that again.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Well, it's weird.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you as well, what's the wonderful
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: thing is when you are a grown-ass man and you
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: are getting bad service in a shop, Or in a
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: restaurant or whatever it be... You get to turn around
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and go like... Hey... Kid... I understand... I used to
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: work in a shop like this... And I know that
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you don't... You know... You get to come in... And
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that's super condescending... And people hate it... And I fucking
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: love doing it.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: But the thing is... I... No I mean... Obviously... It's
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: one sided... But watching from what being accused... And stuff
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: like that... There seems to be.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Customers... Tend to be alright... You know... But... A huge
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: majority of that convo seems to be the shopkeep. has
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: disimproved at a rate.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Of fucking nuts. We've talked about this on the Tom
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: and Gerry show before and I've got to tell you,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: if you're paying somebody minimum wage, you should not expect
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: anything other than minimum effort. I'm not asking anybody on
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: minimum wage or low wage to be busting themselves for
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: fucking McDonald's.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: No, it's true. Although McDonald's actually pay above minimum wage apparently,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: but what I'm saying is ability, but Jesus, put a
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: smile on it. You know what I mean? Like a woman,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I put my hand out for change the other day
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: and a woman I mean, she had the dead eye
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: of a woman that had seen a big wall, if
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And she just fucking dropped
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the change a foot, not even just accidentally, a foot
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: from where my hand was sticking out. And as I
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: scraped up my coins, I'm like, how wonderful day. Yeah.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: She stared through me like.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I will say like when I, when I work in retail,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I always, they say like, you know, service
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: with a smile, that kind of thing. I like to
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: think that I would have always had a bit of
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: crack and banter for customers coming in.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: To the detriment of my retail ability.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Like I would be more inclined to stand and have
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a crack with someone for half an hour and then
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: be like, right, go on. Good luck. And bosses would
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: come to me and say, did you manage to upsell
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: them on anything? Did you manage to give them a
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: competitive quote, a reason to come back? And I was like, no,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: we just had a fucking crack about the football for
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: an hour. And then he fucked off without buying anything.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: But you see that.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Well, Jerry, that's a problem, kid. You've got to fucking
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: sell stuff.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I think that was very short-sighted on your boss because
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing. When you're loyal to a
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: hardware or you're loyal to a.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Like what you'd worked in for years. If you're loyal
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: to that, you'll go back into Jerry for the nails
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: hoping that it's Jerry that serves you because you want that,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: you know, you want that bit of fucking chat back
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: and forth. Honestly, I think it was very short-sighted. Upselling
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't always need to happen in the spot, I think.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You can just create a rapport with somebody when it's
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: an everyday place. If it's a fucking one-off, let's say
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the window shop, how often are you going in there?
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: But when it's hardware, there's a bit of fucking everything
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: you might sell. I think that was savvy on your
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: behalf because there's a hardware shop that I use. One
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: of the fellas that I liked in there has fucked
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: off and I won't be going back there in a hurry,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean, like.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a balance to be struck between closing the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: sale and just using every customer as an opportunity to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: hone your tight seven.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Now, I was a terrible bar person because I... I
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: was all... Like, I'd take your order, but as soon
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: as you were rude to me, I'd straight away go,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: is everything all right? Yeah, and they'd give the order
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: again because they think I didn't hear them. No, no,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: is everything all right? Because at no point, like, you
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: just barked it at me. But it would be rare enough,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: in fairness, whatever it was about It was a hotel
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: bar and you wouldn't get, you weren't getting legions of
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: just gangs of lads coming in going, hey, blue wig
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: and fucking tequila, you know, rarely. But you'd get the
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: odd person who would have a level of celebrity and
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: you'd often get them clicking their fingers at you. And
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I had zero shame. Zero shame in finding myself just
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: staring into the sink for no reason at all.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: That's an opportunity to fucking work the rule there, Tom.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in this woman's instance, anyway, she
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: set up a right bitch fest. You think in her position, too,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: she'd just go, all right, great. Because that can't be
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the first time she's ever had a fucking slight.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: This is the fucking worst thing that has ever happened,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I've got to tell you. And this is another thing
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that has crept into society, you know, the ills of society.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: But when you're wronged with customer service, and it happens,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: this thing of going straight to social media to give
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: out about it is, like, on a small scale... fucking
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: harmless because it never goes anywhere and you have people
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: with 13 followers tweeting that oh I got terrible service
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: from on post and my parcel was delivered to the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: wrong people have you anything to say about this on
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: post and on post is like do like, we don't,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: with respect, don't give a fuck, okay? So you can
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: tweet away to your heart's content. Kelly Clarkson has hundreds
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of millions of followers. Now, how many of them are
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in the market for $ 1, 000 clapping machines and $ 15, 000 boards?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Probably not many. but still in all it's not good
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for a small business to get that kind of thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing here's the thing Ger like your
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: man has all the look of it but his case
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: in point was it's permanently bolted to the wall lady
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: it ain't for sale in this particular instance yes it's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: valued at $ 15, 000 but it is bolted to the fucking
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: wall it isn't for sale and she's literally doing the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: But everything's... Like Kim Jong-un fucking level.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You know, like.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: But everything's for sale. No. Everything's not for sale. That
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: thing that you're pointing at... Is the thing that isn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: for sale.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: And you talk about it on social media. Fucking she
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: should not have enough cop-on. Like... the amount of death
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: threats they got within minutes. Yeah, but listen, yeah, come here.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to go to fucking Ireland and shoot the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: place up.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: You say that, but.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Mind you, it is America.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: They had to call the cops because a neighbouring shop,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: some lunatic went into it thinking it was the shop
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and started threatening people inside there and said... Start fucking going,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: my fucking Kelly Clarkson. And they were like, what are
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you talking about? It wasn't even that shop. It was
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: the shop next door.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Imagine that's how you got killed, Tom. Imagine that's how
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you got killed. How did your daughter get killed? Oh,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you know, she was a case of a mistaken identity
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: by a fucking Kelly Clarkson superfan. Tom, before we move
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the bit on, let me ask you this now. I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a very tolerant person when it comes to retail staff
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and the whatnot for having been in the trenches. But
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I have my limits and I'm sure you have too.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: What pushes you over the edge that will finally make
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you say, with respect, what the fuck?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: If I'm behind the counter?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: No, if you're a customer, if you're a paying customer.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, if I'm a paying customer.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: We're not recommending anybody just go balling people out of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it left, right and centre. But sometimes you have to go,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: come on, gasses.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that woman damn near fucking edged me
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: over the edge. I mean, I wasn't going to say
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I had some respect. She was a middle-aged woman. Maybe
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: she had a tough day or whatever. But the dropping
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of the change a foot away from my hand as
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: she looked in my eye and dropped it, I'm like, oh,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I got a twitch.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That was purposeful.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, I got a twitch in my eyeball. Like, there
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: was every bit of it. I went and fucked a
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: lot at her, like shrapnel, just going, fucking go downtown
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and find a rat to gnaw that thing off your face,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: like Uncle Buck. Like, just go fucking wild in that scenario.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But everything.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: stormed up inside me, I just kept it. There's, it's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: that level of blatant, fuck, like, I get it, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: get it. Let's just not even, let's just get around
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: each other. But if I say, thanks very much, do
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you know what? Let's just acknowledge that I said it,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: even though you don't care and I don't. Let's just,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: just do that. The, it was, it's that level of,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: just baseline level.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Of go fuck yourself.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Of go fuck yourself. I get it. It's not your shop.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. We all work for
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: the fucking... We all are taking a big bite out
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: of the shit sandwich. Let's just take a spit each.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Let's just go. Come on.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what will get me over the edge, Tom.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to go roaring or shouting or
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: anything like that. Thankfully, those days are behind me. Although,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: if a fucking delivery driver comes whoring in here... on
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: his phone looking for directions, taking corners on two wheels
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: every now and then. That will get my shouting in gear.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I won't complain to any one given staff member of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: any establishment, Tom, because everybody can have a bad day.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people are low-paid workers and they
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: don't need this on top of everything else. But if
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I find it's the entire business issue.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So if I go for a feed and you order
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and the lassie or fucking young fella, whoever it might be,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: forgets your order and comes back and goes, Jesus, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: didn't take it into the thing. That's okay, kid. I'm
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: not well happy about it because I wanted to be
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: out of here nice and lively, but it's not your fault. Okay,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that's fine. And then if it comes from the, if
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: they go up and order it perfectly the first time,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And it comes down and it's missing something or it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just not quite what I ordered. I'd be like, ah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know what? I'm not going to fucking raise hell
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: because there's no cheese on my burger.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And then the bill comes after. If the bill comes
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: separate after the fact and there's something on it that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: not on it, it'd be a nice little quiet thing.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But if all of those fucking things happen in tandem,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: it shows me that the business itself, nobody here gives
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a fuck. And then I will, on occasion, Tom, go
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit, Karen, and go, come here. I'm just
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: going to have a wee crack with the manager here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: With respect. Because I'm not getting anyone in trouble with
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that person there. Can't fucking run a finger up their
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: arse with directions. Yeah, yeah. Buddy, if you're managing this shop,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you ain't, buddy. Because, like, you know, your fucking kitchen
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: staff ain't cooking shit properly. And your wait staff are
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: forgetting shit all the time. Someone, you know, I'd love
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to come back here. But I'm just going to let
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you know this was a shit experience. Terribly sorry. And Tom,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'll only do it when we're out for a feed.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And this isn't if we go to McDonald's. I'm not
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: fucking raising hell in KFC. But if you go out
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: for a feed in a nice place, which would normally
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: be for a birthday or a special occasion for us,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that shit ain't cheap for four people to take them
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: out to for a good feed anymore. And if it's
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: shit from the fucking top down, then no, with respect,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I'll be asking not to pay full price for that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Do you know what? I'm not throwing anybody under the bus,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: but I've had three Individual rows. With an establishment. In
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: the last month. And on three very different. And there's
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: one last fellow remaining in there that I like. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I need one last thing in there. And that's me
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: done with them. Because everything else. And it's been based on.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Sheer rudeness. Or indoors. Sheer rudeness to me. Incorrect products.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Poor fucking quality products. And talking with like a mate
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: of mine who had the exact same experience, the quality
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: of the products gone shite. I mean, I went buck
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: fucking wild in there. I damn near went in there
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: like that person that went in looking for fucking Kelly Clarkson.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I went in there wild looking for a fella there
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: The guy out here in all leaf camels.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Going in there looking, where's the mechanical bird my wife
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: was looking for? Here's my biggest fucking takeaway from the
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: whole Kelly Clarkson thing going to an oddity store in
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: New York is how the fuck has nobody brought down
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: that she wasn't going in there looking for a fucking gizmo?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: How?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: How did nobody go, like, how is this guy sitting
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: in there looking like a fucking, you know, a hipster barista?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: He should have long white beard sitting in the corner
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: hiding with the fucking lights dark. And he's, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: this little fucking.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: A missed opportunity, Tom.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: A missed opportunity. You're fucking joking me. That's gremlins.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: A missed opportunity.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: If anybody's wondering, that's gremlins. In case anybody's wondering. Um, Yeah, I.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: That is gremlins indeed. Well, listen, folks, we're going to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: move away from Kelly Clarkson and her flock there.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: They're doing a roaring trade, apparently.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: They're doing a fucking roaring trade since she outed him
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: or tore into him because people are like, lovely, now
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: we know a spot to go to.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, Tom, I'd be putting 50% off that board and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: selling them to every fucking Tom Dick and Harry that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: came walking through the place.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I'd make a video and everything of me shaking hands
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: with somebody taking it down off the wall and just...
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: And then dropping it. Just breaking it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm making another one.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I take another one out from underneath the counter. We
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: put another one up.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: It's great. Come here. Listen, we leave them lads there
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and talk about different lads because as we do every
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: week on the Tom and Jerry show, we single out
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: one lad and say.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, what about this lad?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Now there's that guy. This lad thinks he's unique, Tom.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But we've had his ilk before, even on the Tom
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and Jerry show. People who walk great distances. In particular,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: British people that walk great distances or run great distances.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I believe one of our very firstest lads was, what
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: do you call him? World's hardest geezer and he was
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like a fucking little ginger. And he ran the length
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of Africa.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: With a chap, was he Mayo? I think, was he
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Mayo as well? I think he went around, an Irish fella,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: he went around across fucking Australia. There's people go tearing
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: off around the fucking place all over the shop in
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: all fucking directions. Like there could be At any one time, Ger,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I'd go out onto the road there and nearly get
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: knocked down by somebody on an adventure.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: That's the go of it this day. And everybody's on one.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But in all fairness, this fella, Jesus, he has torn
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: darts out of this.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: He's done it in fucking hard mode. Carl Bushby, ladies
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, is nearly home to his home city of Hull,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: After a trip around the world, Tom, that started in 1998.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: A very particular journey called the Goliath's Path that nobody
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: has undertaken before because, as we'll come to learn, it's
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: fucking mental.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: It's fucking mental. I thought this was one he had
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: plotted out himself or he just went to see, you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: whatever way the wind took him. But it is known
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: as the Goliath's Path, isn't it?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: It's a horror. Fucking trick And like he's This now
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Oh Carlos on the go 30 years, for anybody who's wondering. Like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think he got dug in too many places,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: but it's 30,000 miles, I want to say. I thought
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: it was kilometers, and then I heard miles somewhere, which is,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Which makes a difference when there's 30,000 of them, 300,000
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, there's, hell tonight so he's on the
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: go nearly 30 30 or it's 20 after 28 years
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: as she says 30 is a nice round number um
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: he's on the way from uh all all of all
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: places all.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Of all places yeah i'm sorry beg your pardon i'm
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: checking my sums here 50 000 kilometers 30 000 miles.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Right right right right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing carl bush be number one ah fuck
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: this guy He's an ex-power trooper who served in Northern Ireland,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: so I'm not naturally inclined to fucking.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Like him to begin with. I knew it. I knew it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I want to get that out of the way as well.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he served in Northern Ireland,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: married a Northern Ireland lady.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: You know. That happens.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Talking about things that would inspire a 28-year journey around
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the world, but neither here nor there with that one, Tom.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Had a kid.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And then one day just decided, while the child was
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: like eight years of age, I'm not saying it was
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a deciding factor.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: It could have been.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: The kid was in the house.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Decided, actually, do you know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: What I'll do here now? Walk the entire distance of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the world. And what sets Carl aside from anybody else
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: is that he has completed this journey without the use
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of any mechanized transport whatsoever. No scooters, no boats, no cars,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: no planes, no nothing. He has either walked or swam
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: From South America, the bottom of it, all the way
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: up the spine of the Americas, crossed that little Bering
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Strait into Russia, and then fucked around from Russia to France,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: swum the French Channel, and landed in England at the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: start of this week with just the 4,000 miles or
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: thereabouts from Dover to Hull left to walk. Suffering sweet
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ I'm no good at I'm no good at
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: some time 400 miles I think it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Is Yeah 400 miles Yeah He took off Now he
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: was His kid's.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: A fucking grown ass man now by the way His
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: kid's like fucking 40 some odd.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Years of age He has a grandchild Ger He has
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: a grandchild Yeah That's so long Like I was always
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: When I started reading into this All I could think
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: about it was From the young person's point of view
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Like going And where's your dad now? He's Is he dead?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: No No. Oh, he's working abroad, is he? Technically, yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I suppose. Well, he's... Fucking no, he went off. I mean,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: we've all, you know, there's the cliché, Ger, you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: of your dad went off for milk and cigarettes and
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: never came back.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And never came back.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this is fucking it, Tom.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: He's come to went to Chile. He went to fucking...
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And strolled back, Tom.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It must be said now, I'm going to do some
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: quick sums here on the thing. He fucking doddled back.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: He fucking doddled back. So it's 30,000 miles over a
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: 30 year period.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it here.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: 36,000 miles.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: We'll give him his due.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: 36,000 miles.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this on my phone. Okay. And he's been
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gone 28 years. That's 1,285 miles a year. How many?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: 100 miles a month. Go on.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Three miles a day.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Tom, I walk fucking three miles a day to get
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the kids from school.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I had to chase the fucking goats three miles a day.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's long, but it's not exactly what you'd
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: call an endurance race or anything like that. He's not running.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: It's not an ultra, ultra, ultra marathon. We stress again, folks,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: this took this man 28 years to do this. He
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: was stopping in places for.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Years at a time.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I suppose after you cross
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the Bering Strait and stuff like that, that's a fucking
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: horror show. You know what I mean? After you've gotten
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: in from that shit, you'll probably want to get down
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: for six months or so and go, look at that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate if you're in Russia in the depths
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of winter. And again, listeners of the Tom and Jerry show,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Carl Bushby was in Russia at the depths of winter.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Nobody fucking asked him to be.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is all voluntary actions on this man's behalf.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: But I get that, okay, you're not going to want
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to get out and trip 50 miles a day. And
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not asking the man to trip 50 miles a day.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But three miles a day, Tom, seems excessively slow.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would imagine things slowed up. He was probably,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: he had probably great intentions of blasting this out of it, right?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: But kind of sometimes, you know, when you're, you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: when halfway through a thing, you're going, I'm sure I
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: could fucking do it out now. But then you're going, sure,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I'm here now. Do you notice it? Like, there's a
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: great phrase. Like, that is a great phrase. And again,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: we quote him on a regular basis. And I must
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: get him to do it for you, some nice words.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: John Cleary had a bit about the phrase that Irish
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: people use. Fuck it, we're here now. And it was like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: the Germans didn't even intend. They were only going for
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: a wander and they found themselves in Poland. And they went,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: you know, and it's almost like that. Because he intended
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: on doing this as a soldier originally. So kind of
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: nearly to promo the soul, you know, the paratroopers.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And British paratroopers welcoming as many countries around the world
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: as possible, Tom.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Do you know, so he was doing it and he
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: thought he'd pay. And they agreed it. They thought this
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: would be a good look for us. You know what
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I mean? That we have an adventurer off out there
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: and we'll pay him a few pounds. And I'd say
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: he was going to blast it out in a couple
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: of years. He three years kind of logged in to
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: do this. And then the fucking wheels came off that wagon. Now,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I would argue still you could get it wrapped in six.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: even unpaid. You could fucking find a bit of work
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: on the way, like, and get it done in six.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: This whore, well, you see, he found a new woman.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: In all places, he found a new woman in fucking Colombia.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: They'll slow you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Down, them Colombian ladies.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And Catalina, she slowed him down, Owen, because it turns
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: out Colombians aren't fucking welcome in a heap of countries around,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: because she tried to go with him for a lot
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: of it. Yes. And he had to fucking leave her
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: at the gates, at the gates of the school, like
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Enoch Bourke.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Good luck, I'll see you. Catalina, you just fucking warmed
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the bench there, I'll be back for you. Yeah, that's
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the thing that hindered him a lot, Tom, is not
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the insurance of it. A woman, and not for nothing
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: as well, his own separate visa issues, because he's just like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to walk. Across the world. Yeah, no problem.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: All right, do you have a visa to enter this
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: country for six months at a time?
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: No, I'm British.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: We used to own this land. Yeah, well, you don't now, Carl.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: The sun didn't settle on the British kingdom.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Settle yourself down there, Carl. He walked around across into Turkmenistan,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: all this kind of thing, Tom. I'll tell you one
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: thing he didn't do and hasn't on his itinerary. He's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: not coming back to Belfast.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just looking through it here going, yeah, hasn't gone
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: anywhere near Belfast.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: You don't want to swing up around there. So, Carl Bushby,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: we don't have too much to say about him. Not
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: all of these lads are a big epic thing, and
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: we're not going to swing it around and tell you, oh, yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and here's what me and Tom intend to do, because
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: we don't intend to do any of this shit. But
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: if you do want to walk around the circumference of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the world to get away from your problems, at least
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: now you have a shining light to follow, and that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: is Mr. Carl Bushby.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: God love him. He has a book out... called Giant
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Steps so if you do want to have a go
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: look at that and I think there was another one
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: out that has added the Bering Strait so there's a
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: there's a latest edition out since 2007 and it adds
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: in the fucking hell of the Bering Strait so if
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: you want to really find out the fucking misery of
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: a fella who like dragged darts out of it like
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: normally they try and get these things done in a
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: certain time sure the steps of it but as Gerry
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: broke it down there three mile a day she could
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: wrap all you could wrap the week on a Sunday
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Get your 21 miles
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: done on a Sunday.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just tell you this much now, Tom.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I've often fallen further in a day. That's what I'll
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: say about that. But yes, he's been on the go
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: for 28 years. Me and Tom have been on the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: go for slightly longer. We're hitting into our 40s. Mid 40s,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: late 40s.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: What am I saying? Fucking 50s.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I can't do sums this day at all.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, don't fucking say the fifth word.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But we ain't going to circumnavigate the globe anytime soon,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: is my point, Tom. But what we are going to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: do is reminisce on shit we've discovered over our years
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: on this goddamn cursed rock. Look back on them on
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a segment we call We Remember When.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: When I was a young lad, 20 or 30 or
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: 40 years ago... This is the one that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you one thing Earl Carroll could do
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: with his wee bit of energy along his travels, wouldn't
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you say, Tom?
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I would say so, yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, the....
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: This is what pinged in my head, driving out the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: road from, the chips just inspired me driving out the
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: road the other night, heading for home. And I left
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Gerry a voice note, and it's late on a Saturday night,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you don't expect the man to answer. By God, Gerry
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: was back within fucking 30 seconds. He had opinions, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: they were kind of confueled, I would imagine.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I cannot tell a lie, Tom. You text me that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: hour of a Saturday night, you're not going to get
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: me lucid.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: No, and it was great because it was a big
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: long-winded message. Jeez, we more or less had a podcast
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: between us on these things. So my thought, what had
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: popped into my head, because I looked down and I
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: didn't take the drink from, with the, whatchamacallit, with the chips.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I said, no, you're grand.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I have one in the car because I got one earlier.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: And I got a thing called Celsius, Ger. It's grand.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: It's supposedly an energy drink.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, Energy drink.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: What am I drinking here at all, at all? Like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: drink a fucking can of Coke like a man. You
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, what am I drinking? It
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: was tasty, but it didn't it didn't add to the
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: chip scenario but i was just kind of going fucking
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: hell there is no like half the shop nowadays is
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: just brightly colored energy drinks like insane looking like the
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: wilder you can get them the.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: The more monstrous you can get them, Tom, some might say.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And we remember when that wasn't a thing because, you know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: this is like you explain these things to your kids
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and they look at you like you've got fucking, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: dog poop falling out of your mouth. You know, it's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: just like crazy shit. Me and Tom, and indeed I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: would dare say a large listenership of the Tom and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Jerry show, were here for the advent of Red Bull
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: in this country. We didn't call it energy drinks at
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the time. It was just Red Bull. It was a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Red Bull drink. This whole energy drink shit came, I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: want to say, after. It wasn't launched as an energy
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: drink or anything like that. It just started to crop
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: up as being a tasty beverage.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, you say tasty, but in my message, she
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: was like, how the fuck? And what actually inspired it
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: really was I was diverted around the city. And that's
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: why I went to Douglas and didn't go into the
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: city for chips. So I went, oh, fuck, I can't
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: go into the city because Red Bull had taken over
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the city in Cork Saturday night. Primarily the Grand Parade
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and South Maddow, which I would have had to cut
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: through with a couple of F1 cars or something.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: This is the thing. This is the thing. Red Bull
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: now is just like synonymous with energy drinks.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Extreme motorsports and stuff like that, isn't it?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: It's motorsports. It's parachute jumping. It's a Formula One brand.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Red Bull is, you know, one of the biggest brands
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: in the world. And we've kind of watched that come up. Selling,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you know, let's look at it on the face of it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Selling a tasty beverage.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Now, again, there's my argument.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: A flavourful beverage, Tom.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: How did it get off the ground being so terrible? Like, alcohol,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I get it. Like, tequilas in this country, by all accounts,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: good quality tequila in South America is good. But tequila
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: in this country is fucking geek, right? But you go, okay,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: but it gets you fucked up. And you know what
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I mean? That's what you're after when you're in a nightclub. Sambuca,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: same shit. Do you know what I mean? Rank, but look,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: it gets you fucked up. But Red Bull, it's just like, oh,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: it made me unsleepy.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And that was the big selling point on Red Bull
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and how it got into clubs. And we're going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: say how we experienced in Ireland. Elsewhere, you know, it
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: got a couple of years head start. It was on
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the continent for a long time before it came near
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Ireland and the UK. And I want to say we
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: started getting it right about like 98, 99, thereabouts. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: remember being in college and promos and shit like this.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Definitely was there. And the thing that made it novelty wise,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I remember it stuck out to everybody. It was a
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: genius move because to this day, I remember, is that
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: there was a standardized can, Diana. You have the old
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: school can in your hand right there now. And that
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: was the thickness of a normal... Little fat can, yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: The fat can and the thickness of a beer can
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: were the same size. You know what I mean? They
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: were the same diameter. They came out of the same tube.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: And then these came on with these thin little cans.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: These little slender cans.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: They were like the insert for the kitchen roll. Exactly.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Fucking.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: It stands out in my mind brilliantly. You got able
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to sell the same amount... More units for less quantity.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: It was fucking brilliant.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Come to find out that was for a very particular
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: reason because they couldn't sell the same amount of Red
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Bull as they would in a three. You couldn't sell
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a 330ml can of it at the time. You could
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: only sell like a 250ml can of it which is
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: what the smaller Red Bull can was because Red Bull
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of fucking ingredients in it that was
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: not just caffeine that's in tea and coffee. It was
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: taurine and I dare say at the time people were
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: like let's start them off with a small dose of it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see what 220ml of it does To somebody... Before
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: we start selling it... In a 500ml can... Which is
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: what you get now... With the monster energy drinks... Which
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: is the size of a can... At Baltimore... Well.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: We remember.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: When of all this... Is really... When we were... When
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: we were.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Youngsters.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: The only sort of... Zip drink you would have... Was Lucozade...
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Now fair play to.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Lucozade was the energy drink... Of our youth.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I have danced the dance... And they're still knocking about...
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: But when I looked into... Red Bull right... So many
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: things became very clear... When I looked into it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I went.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Right... This is why this shit might be fucking considered wild.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: This was first put together in Thailand, Gerry, in 1975.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: It's older than you think, folks. Straight away, you're like, ah,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: there was a fucking wild... It's the wild west in
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Thailand at the best of times.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: At the best it is.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Back in 75. Yeah, you could pretty much do what
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: you wanted, but it was put together by a fella
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: called Chilo... No.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Vu Vidya, right?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Right. He founded a thing called TC Pharmaceuticals Keep it
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: coming Tom He introduced Krattingdaying Which Translate Or meaning Red Gower.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Also Hell of a Red Gower and vodka please.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Well Also known as Red Bison Which isn't bad Red
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Bison Not bad There's probably.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Can you lop a syllable off that In any way Tom?
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Do you know I'm just thinking How about I'm just
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: thinking though Jared There probably is a rip off somewhere
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: You know, a rip-off can. Because that's one thing that inspired...
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: It inspired some amount of rip-offs. Red Bull did.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I remember some of the early rip-offs of Red Bull.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I remember Red Square.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And Red Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: this was to help labourers and truck drivers just stay awake.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Stay awake. I mean, that's the name of the game.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: And that was the name of the game with.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Lucas Ayd as well.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because again... Can you imagine what was in the
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: original one?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus, look at that. I remember what was in
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the original Lucas Aid, Tom. Lucas Aid is not a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: new thing. Drinking a drink to stay awake, Tom, is
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: not a new thing, okay? Lucas Aid was originally marketed
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to tired housewives. It was a little pick-me-up in the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: middle of the day. And what Lucozade was, we all
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: know what it was. It was fucking... Sugar water. Sugar water.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Literally sugar water.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: It came with that clear... Do you remember that transparent
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: orange plastic that would.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Fill them around it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Because if you left it out just in a glass bottle,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the sun would shine it and the sugar would.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, coagulate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I do remember, like, Lucozade, the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: OG Lucozade, not the fucking pissies I'm drinking right now,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: but the OG Lucozade. Like, it wasn't a liquid. It
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: was a very, very, very thin syrup.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like... Small insects could walk across the top
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: of it handy.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I remember, because I remember being small, and you'd have
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit left in the glass, and if you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: swirled it around like brandy, it would cling to the glass.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Do you remember... Yes, do you remember it clinging to
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: the glass, but you'd take a drink of it, and
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: every youngster around you would have a lucid moustache? Because
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: it would actually stain your skin. Because it wouldn't stick
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: to you, yeah. Yeah, it was that fucking strong.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Like, it was.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Up there, it was stronger than TK lemonade when it
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: came to, like, viscosity. Like, it would absolutely adhere to anything.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Like, it was.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: And I remember bringing it into, like, you'd bring it
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: into hospital to visit, you know, a sick end or something.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: You would bring it in because it was a tonic
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: for people. It would give them, you know, it said,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: this will give you energy. And no lies were told
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: because if you drink a bunch of sugar, you're going
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to feel a bunch of energy for a little while
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: at least. I mean, you're going to crash like a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: motherfucker afterwards. It's going to be a good day for you.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Red Bull came along and said, okay, we'll give you
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: all that. With caffeine and touring. What's touring?
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Nah, it's fucking.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: It's some Taiwanese shit there. Like, you know, it's what
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: all the fucking taxi drivers in Taiwan... So... A bold claim, Tom.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: But, you know, the Austrians, they're innovators, if nothing else.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: So I'm guessing, like, Dietrich Madschitz... Which, it actually looks
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: a bit like Dietrich Madschitz. But Dietrich Madschitz, in 1984,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: he discovered... creating Dane, what were you doing in Thailand
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: back then?
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: You fucker.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: He found a cure to his jet lag.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Island hopping, buddy.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: He cured his jet lag and allowed him to party
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: his ass off while over there. He partnered with Chilo.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: He tracked him down and he formed Red Bull GmbH,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: which with each holding 49% stake and 2% going to
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Chilo's son, Didn't have to do a tap. Can you
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: imagine that?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Didn't do a tap and he got the fucking red money,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: just red bull money just for showing up on this world.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: And then it launched in 1987 out west in the
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: likes of Austria and stuff. So Midship adapted the formula
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: for the European taste by adding carbonation. So it was
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: flat as fuck before then. Yeah. And adjusting the sweetness
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: and rebranded as Red Bull Energy Drink. Officially launched in
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Austria in April 87. By Jesus Christ.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Like we were there for it, kind of. None of it,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it took another 10 years at least.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: And then some, yeah. And it hadn't, it hadn't, like
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't, there was only the one flavour. But I
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: remember being in Austria in say 2003. And I remember
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: going to a shop and they had like five different flavours.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you had the red can and the silver
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: can and all this kind of stuff. I've never tasted
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: any of them to be honest. I've only ever tasted
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: like the genuine ones.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: The white one, which I... Day-to-day Red Bull. And I'll
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: be honest with you, I keep... I like that. I
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: often keep one in the car. Not a Red Bull, but,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: you know, an energy drink of some sort in the
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: car for when... When you're sitting in a lay-by, you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: in Louth, and you're like, I have to get to Tipperary. Yeah.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: How am I going to do this? I've got to
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: sink this and get to Tipperary. So.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Now, here's the other thing, Tom, I want to talk
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to you. You see a Red Bull, that's no problem...
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Drink it when you need to get home at night.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Drink it when you've got a long day. So on
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and so forth and so backwards. Mixing it with alcohol
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: was something we discovered in real time.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: It was, but I suppose it kind of was always
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: going to happen because prior to that, you did have,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: do you know, Gin. Oh, you can mix that with alcohol.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: But there was, there was mixers, you know, little small bottles.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: So there was mixers of red lemonade, white lemonade. Like,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: we're talking to the fancy level. Now, you could, in
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of country bars, you were just getting slid
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: the bottle of lemonade up.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: If you wanted to.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: If you want a wee splash of lemonade.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Splash of something. But, and that was all that was
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: really accepted.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Like Red Bull was very cute. They didn't, they weren't
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: given mixer bottles. They weren't given a big bottle. Although
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I do remember having a bottle of like a liter
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: of Red Bull. It was in a silver. Jesus Christ. Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: a silver bottle that was metallic looking. You know what
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: I mean? It looked like brushed stainless steel. But it
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: was plastic. I do remember, but there was never, you're
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: never going to see that on the couch. So it was,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: the smart thing about Red Bull is they priced it so,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: so high. Because it had a quality that Coca-Cola didn't
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: have in that it was an energy drink and not
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: just a soft drink. And they would charge you as
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: much for that as they would for the fucking vodka
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: you were after getting. So you'd start sharing it with
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: lads then, you know what I mean?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of sharing with lads, I remember, because I
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: was at college at the time, Red Bull and vodka
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: was the drink.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: And that was aggressively pushed by marketing and like... promo
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: girls and send good looking women in to nightclubs.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: And they'd be rip off they'd be rip off brands
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: do huge promo nights as well you know like they'd
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: be like that Boost had one for a while there
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: was a couple others.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And like you know yeah that's okay promo people good
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: looking people handing out free drinks in bars is nothing
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: new and it still happens to this day thank god
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: but I the concentration of them 20 years ago when
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I was at college 25 years ago when I was
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: at college uh It was like they were doing everything
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: they could to get Vodka and Red Bull into your hand.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And I remember the first time I got drunk on
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Vodka and Red Bull. I've never gotten that drunk on
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: it since because once was enough, Tom. It's the damnedest thing.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Who the hell am I talking to? Vodka and Red Bull,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: it's like the sleepiness of alcohol mixed with the whitey
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: awakeness of Red Bull.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Quite a mixture and quite a curious drunkenness.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Not one that I've... Looked to replicate.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I worked with a guy... Who would smoke up to
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: six joints a day... During the building... Building site... The
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: day on the building site. But then... He would jackhammer himself...
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Out of that scenario... By drinking a six pack of
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Red Bull. Jesus Christ. Throughout the day.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not fully sure... Is he still with us? I
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: don't think so. I wouldn't think so. I... The way
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: he was running that fucking thing... It was just not
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: gonna last. Like... that pace doesn't last on a body. Like,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Doing what he was doing.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Getting absolutely baked and then going, right, time to absolutely
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: twist myself.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Hit it with the wake up juice.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: It was, yeah, I did, I did the red, the
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: fight can red bull thing and it was like that.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: It never sat well with us. We're doing one or
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: the other. I'm not a great multitasker when it comes
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: to relaxation mode. You know, you get people going, do
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: you know what we'll do next? And then we'll go next.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: What we'll do next? And we'll be so relaxed from it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: We're like, can I just climb in there?
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to do one of those things in
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the hall.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: And that's me when it comes to drinking. Let me
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: do the one. Okay, do you know what we should do?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: 12 pubs. How about we just do the one pub
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: at Christmas and drink 12 drinks? How's that?
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: We can do that because I'm not in any way relaxed.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: And Red Bull for me didn't, it was the polar
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: opposite to what I needed at the end of a
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: fucking working week in construction. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: can't shut this shit.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: It's time to go to sleep now.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: And I do remember, I remember like that was a
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: promo night and we got fucking given loads of it.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I'd been drunk in bed, but I can't sleep. But
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: my heart, my heart didn't think I was drunk. My
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: heart's banging in my chest and I'm going, oh Jesus Christ.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: And then the drama of being drunk and not really
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: aware of the situation thinking, well, I'd say that's me dying.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I'd say, cause I've never felt this before.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I have been out in the beer all night.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's in that piss that they're giving
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: me from Austria. So, yep, I'll be dead in the morning. Grand.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: And then fucking white knuckling it for the next couple
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: of hours, just lying in the bed, staring at the ceiling.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Well, we're not going to go chapter and verse through
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: all the monsters and the Celsius and all this kind
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: of thing because you guys know what they are because
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: they're just a common part of life. You buy it
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: like you buy fucking milk these days. Everywhere you go,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you see increasingly younger people just sort of walking to
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: school or work or wherever it is, and it has
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: become commonplace to say, fuck it, we'll get a Red
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Bull or a 500ml Monster or a fucking Celsius or
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and horse it into us. Hey, Tom,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I have two good strong coffees before 11 o'clock in
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: the day, so who am I to say that you're
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: doing it wrong? But it doesn't seem like a sustainable thing,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and I look eagerly over the next 20 years to
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: find out what the fuck is.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the kids, the kids, the late teenagers and
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: stuff like that all the way into, you know, the
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: gym bro, you know, mid-twenties, they're all drinking mainline and
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: this fucking white monster and they're feeling good about themselves
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: because it's like, well, it's sugar free.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: And you're like, yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's sugar free. What about the rest of it?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Come on now. Come on now. There ain't no such
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: thing as a free lunch, lads. You're going to all
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: find your fucking anus dissolve or something in the next film.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: But I did, because it's We Remember When, and really, yeah,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: we are talking about Red Bull, but I do want
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: to give a shout out to our old, old favourite,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: because it's old school. I didn't know LucasAid was as
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: old as LucasAid is.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, no, it goes back to the war.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, and which war is the question, Ger? It goes
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: back to 1927. Yeah. 1927.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Originally made in Newcastle. A puntine, which up north, I'm
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: okay with that. And it was made by a fella,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: great name. William Walker Hunter. So that sounds like he's
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: two different things. He's a walker and a hunter. And
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: he's William.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Weren't they the boys that were stalking you in the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: future in Terminator?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: It's the Walker Hunters. I'm just looking at his name,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: William Walker Hunter, and he made an orange drink. I'm
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: just going, I'm just going, Jesus Christ, this is, This
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: is probably fairly popular with Bushby and his mates when
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: they were in Belfast. But anyway. Yeah. But it was
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: originally called Glucosade, which makes sense.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: But it was bought by Beechams in 38 and then
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: sold again to a Japanese company called Suntory, who I
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: know have a.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we know those, don't we?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Suntory. And they do... Suntory also have a... For
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: any keen-eared listeners, they have a very successful, which is
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: something we should look into someday for the crack, a
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: very successful rugby team. All the major, major companies in
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Japan have to have a sporting team of some sort
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: that trades. So Man United would have to be owned
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: by Dyson, shall we say. Or actually Bath Rugby Club
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: is owned by Dyson. But it would have his name
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: in it, if you get me. So they're like the
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Suntory Sundragons. And they're just... What they're doing is... They've
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: so much fucking money. They're just scooping up lads who
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: have come kind of to the end of their unbelievable
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: career and want to make just a fucking... Just a
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: walk in the sun. You know what I mean?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: For a year or two.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Play it against much smaller opposition, I must add.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: So now we.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: We have the upshot of all what it is to be.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: And I mean.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Do you remember, and this is one, you'll remember this,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: and I sprung it on herself the other day, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: she got misty-eyed. Lucozade sweets. Oh, yeah.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can still get some form of them.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Fuck off.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: They're not the same. Nothing's the same, but you can
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: get the little chalky Lucozade sweets. You get them in
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the cameras.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Stop me from being ignorant here, but I think the
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: diabetics would keep a pack of them about the place.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Is that right? Because I used to snaffle them when
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: I got them. Oh, I loved them.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I loved them. You can still get some, if not
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Lucozade themselves, some form of them. But as is much
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: of the things that happen on We Remember When, they're
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: not the same time.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: They're not the same. How could they be the same?
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: How could they be the same? All the good stuff.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Folks, how could any of us be the same after
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: drinking that much fucking energy drinks in our lives? But
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: if you are a staunch energy drink drinker and you
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: want to say, guys, you're completely wrong, let us know.
• 58:14
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• 58:16
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• 58:18
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• 58:21
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• 58:24
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• 58:27
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• 58:27
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• 58:31
  Speaker 3: does pop up on a regular basis, all right, for people.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: They're so delighted when somebody has misspelled Gerry. There is actually,
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: somebody has done the logo, Tom and Gerry, in the
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Looney Tunes.
• 58:41
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• 58:42
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• 58:50
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• 58:54
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• 58:57
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• 59:00
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• 59:07
  Speaker 3: the world. Did you ever come across Carol Bush being...
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: you were living in some part of Cambodia who's this
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: bollocks now another fucking whitey tramping through the forest with
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: no mission other than fucking being a bollocks have you
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: ever had a Kelly Clarkson moment do you fucking side
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: with her or should she know better being a super
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: wealthy super rich person and he's your man a bit
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: of a fucking toe rag.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: In his own right this was going to be a
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: bad luck Miss Clarkson.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah this is going to be a bad luck and
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: your energy fucking stories from back in the day did
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: you ever have a family that made any homemade fucking
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: tonics and I would feel I was talking with the
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: other day he was telling me he was fearful of
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: run down I said do you ever do you take
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: anything he's like no I should really start the multivitamin
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: or something I was like yeah you probably should you're
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: 70 but he reckoned there was a fellow up the
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: road that made a tonic that'd pull you out of
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: the grave And I'm tempted to see if he can
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: get us a bottle and we test it, Gerard. I'll
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: send a bottle up to you and we test it,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: see if a fucking, I don't know, thickens our hair
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: or something. Maybe we'll just be fucking youthful Tom and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Gerry again.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll mix it with vodka, Tom, as well.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: We'll go on with that, folks.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Good luck.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Good luck.