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Talk Line: Charlene Bielema on local news in Dixon · WIXN AM 1460 - Shaw Local Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Soak Valley. You've joined the Waking crew here
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  Speaker 1: on FM ninety five one and AM fourteen sixty wix N.
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  Speaker 1: It's eight thirty three on your Wednesday, January twenty eighth morning,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm joined in the booth by our good friends
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  Speaker 1: the managing editor of the Gazette and Telegraph, the one
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  Speaker 1: the Only, Charlene be La Maa, Hello there. I've missed
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  Speaker 1: having you with the booth show.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know. It's Wednesday's a big court day
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  Speaker 2: for me in Whitesaid County. This seems to be the
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  Speaker 2: day that they have a lot of jury pre trials
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  Speaker 2: and just different things that happened that I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: could turn into a plea, but I just like to
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  Speaker 2: be there to kind of keep an eye on things
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  Speaker 2: or I don't know, it just depends on the week.
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  Speaker 2: One's keeping me out of the booth, so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: So no One, We're lucky to have you on that coverage.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't know half of what's going on without this
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  Speaker 1: stuff without you, which really leads us to the today's
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  Speaker 1: first topic, which is the Meyer trial.
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  Speaker 2: Right right now underway in Ogle County, and we've had
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  Speaker 2: Earlean Hinton covering that she has been covering this case
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  Speaker 2: for sure since it began, because we're talking about a
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  Speaker 2: ten year old double homicide case. The trial has been
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  Speaker 2: happening the past couple of weeks at the Oga County
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  Speaker 2: Courthouse in Oregon. The jury now has that they got
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  Speaker 2: it Monday afternoon, I want to say around one thirty
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  Speaker 2: after closing arguments. But you have a couple weeks of
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  Speaker 2: testimony that the jury is trying to sift through. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: you have a case where you have a woman in
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  Speaker 2: which her ex husband is accused of setting her on
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  Speaker 2: fire in their house, and the prosecution has been working
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  Speaker 2: to prove that that they had a fight, possibly the
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  Speaker 2: night before, and that he was responsible for killing her
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  Speaker 2: and then setting the house on fire with the three
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  Speaker 2: year old sun upstairs. That the child also died of aspeciation.
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  Speaker 2: A couple they drove him up to a Rockford hospital
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  Speaker 2: and that's where he was pronounced dead. But he died
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  Speaker 2: as a result of that that poisoning. So a lot
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  Speaker 2: of intense emotional testimony that comes through that. FBI cell
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  Speaker 2: phone records are big. Now we've gotten more precise on
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  Speaker 2: knowing where things are pinging off a tower. Were you
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  Speaker 2: at where you said you were. So's it's been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of testimony that Arline has had to report on
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  Speaker 2: every day, and she's done a really good job of that.
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  Speaker 2: We've had those stories on every night, and now she
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  Speaker 2: is waiting at the courthouse for that verdict to come in. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: the jury late in the afternoon said hey, can we
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  Speaker 2: leave for the day. We're not ready to reach a
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  Speaker 2: verdict yet. We're not there yet, so I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: could go either way. You you can't really read a jury.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to know, you know, what that means if
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  Speaker 2: they don't come back within a couple hours. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: watching that.
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  Speaker 1: Today, Yeah, that's you know, I've been following the coverage
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  Speaker 1: on that, and that's just it seems like something that
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be happening around here. But I swear more and
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  Speaker 1: more reading the coverage that you guys have, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like more of these kind of cases are coming our way.
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  Speaker 2: I think when I started at the paper here in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and Arline had told me she's been
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  Speaker 2: reporting courts for a long time, she was very you know,
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  Speaker 2: very open about, Hey, this is what I'm working on.
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  Speaker 2: So we would talk every day and She's like, I've
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  Speaker 2: got this case, the Sarah saffronit case where you have
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  Speaker 2: the child that died, and then she just seemed to
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  Speaker 2: have more of these cases that were more elevated in
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  Speaker 2: Ogle County. I don't necessarily think that we're immune to anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, once these cases are off the docket,
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  Speaker 2: are we indifferent than anywhere else? I think anything can
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  Speaker 2: happen anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how long do you guys? Kind of are they
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  Speaker 1: anticipating this is going to continue this case here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's always a case of when they declare that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to have a trial, as you get closer
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  Speaker 2: to the trial, they look at the witness list. I
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  Speaker 2: know Arlene had been saying for quite a while they
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  Speaker 2: expected it to go a full month. But there's strategy
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  Speaker 2: that happens when you have, you know, the defense making
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  Speaker 2: its decision on who am I going to bring up
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  Speaker 2: that's on my defense list. Earlene has kind of come
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  Speaker 2: back and said, Hey, some of the witnesses we thought
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be called weren't called. Overall, it feels
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  Speaker 2: like it was shorter. So really, now what you're just
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  Speaker 2: waiting for is the jury to deliberate and you won't
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  Speaker 2: know until they're back. I mean, it's not a case
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  Speaker 2: of where you can really predict that.
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  Speaker 1: Ya.
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  Speaker 2: And then after they come back, then they'll generally say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have a verticant reading. They give people
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  Speaker 2: time to get back to the courthouse, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: then it's over. So once they come back, it'll go
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  Speaker 2: quickly after that. So yeah, that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be the one in the hot seat,
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  Speaker 1: but I know you guys will keep that coverage. Continued
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  Speaker 1: to watch out for that on Shawlocal dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: Very busy at the courthouse. Yeah, early and said it's packed.
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  Speaker 2: There's people obviously because of both sides. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a local obviously local case with people who still live
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  Speaker 2: here that are related to people on both sides of
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  Speaker 2: this story. And I know that Earliness said that there's
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  Speaker 2: national media there also that are looking for their next
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  Speaker 2: news magazine show, so to speak. So yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, speaking of a lot going on, we
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  Speaker 1: had a fire over in Fulton.
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  Speaker 2: We did have a fire and Fulton actually there was
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  Speaker 2: a sweep of fires that felt like just within northern
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  Speaker 2: Illinois because I was working on the Fulton fire coverage,
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  Speaker 2: but we had other reporters that were in other towns
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  Speaker 2: working on fires also, And in the case of Fulton,
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  Speaker 2: I talked to the fire chief yesterday and I had
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  Speaker 2: an email from the Fire Marshall's office late yesterday. The
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  Speaker 2: Fire Marshal's office said it's an open and ongoing investigation
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  Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon, yet they were still calling it undetermined. Doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean that they don't have an answer or won't have
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  Speaker 2: an answer. It's just as of now they don't have
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  Speaker 2: that answer. So it takes a little while to get
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  Speaker 2: through that. So one of our reporters up into Cow
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  Speaker 2: put together a story about tips to avoid fires. While
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  Speaker 2: we don't know what caused this one, we do know
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  Speaker 2: that there is more of a chance for fires this time.
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  Speaker 2: You're space heaters kind of becoming a shoe. I see
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  Speaker 2: that a lot when I was in Clinton, just those
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  Speaker 2: hazards that are very tied to winter. So that list
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  Speaker 2: of you know how to be safe. Also that comes
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  Speaker 2: with how to deal with your pipes if they freeze,
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  Speaker 2: because I think one of them had a fire that
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  Speaker 2: started they were thawing out something with a blowtorch that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't here. That was in one of our coverage areas.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, you know, I hear that's a bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't go beyond a hair tryer. And that was
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  Speaker 2: what the tips were. You could use a hair dryer,
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  Speaker 2: but please do not use when of our editors, I
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  Speaker 2: saw a message that he sent to all of this
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  Speaker 2: is was that of the blowtorche and it's like it
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  Speaker 2: should probably pay attention to what not to do. So
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  Speaker 2: checked that today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but no, yeah, absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I had all the faucets in my house on a
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  Speaker 1: slow drip. I want to say it was like yesterday
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  Speaker 1: was the first time I felt safe turning them off
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  Speaker 1: because I managed to keep all of them running except
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  Speaker 1: for the one in our downstairs bathroom stopped going and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh great night. Even had a space
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  Speaker 1: eater in there, which again just pulling to that. And
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  Speaker 1: I've been kind of on a light sleep mode right
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  Speaker 1: for the first time since my kids where babies, where
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  Speaker 1: I'm waking up and I'm going and walking out in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the night and I'm like, is that thing. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: We're good, We're safe and coming back, and it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're getting better, but it's it's just always a concern.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, sure, it always is. And you know, for me,
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  Speaker 2: the idea of pipes freezing. We live in an old,
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  Speaker 2: big home, like our home was built nineteen oh eight,
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  Speaker 2: old farmhouse, but we don't have pipes on the outside
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  Speaker 2: like when they you know, they describe if you have
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  Speaker 2: pipes here. But my husband knows how to do this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the magic that I don't know how to do to
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  Speaker 2: save the house. But there was a coworker that I
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  Speaker 2: had that one day he came to work in a
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  Speaker 2: relatively new home and his pipes had burst, they believe
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  Speaker 2: sometime after he had left the house to go to work,
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  Speaker 2: and so water had filled the house for hours and
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  Speaker 2: he got all the lunch and it was it was everybody,
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  Speaker 2: move out. We're going to stay in a hotel until
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  Speaker 2: we get all the rooms fixed. Just devastating. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: now I kind of realized the importance of that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent that that makes me, Uh, what
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  Speaker 1: was it about? Like last week, my dog, believe it
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  Speaker 1: or not, came to warn me of the uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the hose from your your washer that flushes the
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  Speaker 1: water out right, Well, it had at at some point
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  Speaker 1: it developed a crack. Okay, and so a load was
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  Speaker 1: going and slowly started leaking into the laundry room. And
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  Speaker 1: thankfully it only got like maybe so high on my shoes.
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  Speaker 1: But my dog was your shoes.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: But my dog was at my door, you know, whining,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's going on. You got to go
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  Speaker 1: to the bathroom. I just took you out a couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes ago. Come on, And so I followed her
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  Speaker 1: and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh, that's hard. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So thankfully it only took every towel.
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  Speaker 2: And then see, now tell us about these adult problems
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  Speaker 2: when we're young. But these are the things that we
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  Speaker 2: have to pay attention to and learn.
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  Speaker 3: I know, my wife was asking me the other day,
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  Speaker 3: She's like, why has life seemed so hard? I was like,
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  Speaker 3: because there's all these we used to you know, we
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  Speaker 3: it was shelter and fire and warmth and food, and
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  Speaker 3: now we have insurance payments and cracked hoses.
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  Speaker 2: And hashtag adulting. Yes, that's what we are now. And
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  Speaker 2: now we have kids that are growing up that we
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  Speaker 2: have to tell how to do things like if they ask.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of water leaks, you guys covered a particular
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  Speaker 1: one that happened at a nursing we did right there
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  Speaker 1: was you.
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  Speaker 2: Could tell yesterday afternoon late I think it was Sterling.
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  Speaker 2: The city of Sterling had shared that there was an
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  Speaker 2: evacuation something going on with water, so kind of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: what's that. Well, then about eight thirty I think it
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  Speaker 2: was last night, got a press release from the Sterling
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  Speaker 2: Fire Department and there was a nursing facility that had
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  Speaker 2: had a leak and apparently the water started leaking in
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  Speaker 2: the ceiling area up in the attic and then the
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  Speaker 2: water was coming down. So hope, okay, okay, we got
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  Speaker 2: problems now because wiring and the hazards of what that
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  Speaker 2: could mean for the elderly people who are living there.
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  Speaker 2: So they okay, they were going to bring them to
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  Speaker 2: their Dison facility because this particular nursing home does have
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  Speaker 2: a Dixon facility. But they couldn't do all that at
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  Speaker 2: once safely, so they brought them to the Whiteside Senior Center.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that they were able to kind of spend
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  Speaker 2: some time there, kind of reorient figure out how they
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  Speaker 2: were going to get their residents over there, and they
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  Speaker 2: will be able to inhabit it. After the work is done,
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  Speaker 2: so there's some work there. Just you know, it's a
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  Speaker 2: cold night, it's a windy night, and it's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's hard. But you know you have volunteers people,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure Senior Center that was there to help and
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  Speaker 2: make sure that everybody found a safe place.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's good because yeah, I mean it's emergency.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an emergency, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody wants to wake up or you know, find
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  Speaker 1: that going on, but in a facility like that with
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  Speaker 1: elderly people and then the cold, and I mean you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine everybody wet and then having to be boss.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad they got them there and they're able
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  Speaker 1: to use the facility because that's also the other you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get enough water damage and a place can be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ruined. And I think we don't know that on
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  Speaker 2: this end. It was we were basically in the press release,
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  Speaker 2: it was just hey, we know that there's hazard's here.
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  Speaker 2: Now as to what was the extent of that or
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  Speaker 2: what when they think they'll be open, that wasn't anything
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  Speaker 2: indicated in that initial release. They probably know more today
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  Speaker 2: than they did yesterday. Yeah, you know, by the time
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  Speaker 2: you bring building code inspectors and people and is what
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  Speaker 2: is it going to take?
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  Speaker 1: So well, fingers crossed for minimal damage and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and restoration on there. You guys also covered a story,
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  Speaker 1: and I really love this one because of the way
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  Speaker 1: that it seemed everybody came together. Was a missing Dixon
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  Speaker 1: man from about a week ago, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that date was January sixteenth, seventeenth. It was
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  Speaker 2: on that weekend. Whenever you have a missing person, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I have children, and when they were little, if I
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  Speaker 2: where I was at a parade somewhere and I couldn't find,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how your heart falls into your stomach. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 2: That's what a missing story does to me. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it does that to pretty much everybody that's got
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  Speaker 2: somebody they love that may be vulnerable if they get
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  Speaker 2: out and or don't return home. I mean, that's another
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  Speaker 2: thing that could happen. And maybe it's a teenager or
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  Speaker 2: in this case, it was an elderly gentleman that they
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  Speaker 2: hadn't seen for about a half hour Saturday afternoon kind
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  Speaker 2: of cold out when you have time that if they
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  Speaker 2: don't follow their normal routine, then you start calling for help.
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  Speaker 2: And so my brain always is like from our end
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  Speaker 2: in the newspaper end, while we are online, once we
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  Speaker 2: get a press release and get it up there, there's
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  Speaker 2: also that possibility that they find them right away. And
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  Speaker 2: so I tend to kind of stand back a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that you have social media that people follow that
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  Speaker 2: they're getting that immediate information from. So we knew somebody
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  Speaker 2: was missing, we weren't on the front end of that
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  Speaker 2: story saying, hey, somebody's missing, just so it doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: reshared because we found in an hour. Sure, but they
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  Speaker 2: found them like overnight. So my question then always becomes,
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  Speaker 2: how do you know, like when you're in law enforcement,
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  Speaker 2: how do you handle searches based on who that not
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  Speaker 2: so much who that person is, but what demographic are
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  Speaker 2: they and what kind of special issues are you dealing
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  Speaker 2: with there? And so I was able to sit down
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  Speaker 2: with Ryan Bivins, the police chief, Aaron Simon t and
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  Speaker 2: deputy chief. They took time out of their day like
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  Speaker 2: to sit down and say, this is what we do
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  Speaker 2: when we have a search, and they explained some of
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  Speaker 2: those things how quickly, and they said, in this particular case,
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  Speaker 2: they knew that they had to right away kind of
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  Speaker 2: mobilize that search because of the age I think he's
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  Speaker 2: seventy seven, and because it was cold out and they
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  Speaker 2: were able to They had some volunteers, but it was
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  Speaker 2: bringing another law more law enforcement. I think they said
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  Speaker 2: they had five on shift that afternoon, but they also
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  Speaker 2: brought in the night shift. There was a sheriff's deputy
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  Speaker 2: deputy on the Lee County Sheriff's Office who's trained in
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  Speaker 2: these tactics to help. And then on top of it,
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  Speaker 2: they also had a map that they brought up on
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  Speaker 2: the screen. That's great. I mean, technology sometimes isn't our friend,
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  Speaker 2: because we know we fight with it on a daily
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  Speaker 2: basis sometimes. But in this case they could put that
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  Speaker 2: up on the screen. They were able to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we know he's this age, we know that he could
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  Speaker 2: probably cover this amount of ground on foot. We can
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  Speaker 2: say it's x amount of time how far could he get?
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  Speaker 2: So then they formed that radius out it was all
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  Speaker 2: zoned so they would say, okay, we've got this group
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  Speaker 2: of officers here this year, so they know what's being searched,
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  Speaker 2: searchers aren't crossing paths with each other, and also do
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  Speaker 2: they have a risk to searchers depending on where you're at,
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  Speaker 2: if you're in a wooded area, if it's cold, to
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  Speaker 2: keep track of who you've gotten where they're at. There
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  Speaker 2: is a volunteer group out of Whiteside County that they
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  Speaker 2: could have activated too, but they said at that point
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  Speaker 2: they did not had not activated them yet. It was
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, that kind of thing, and they had it
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  Speaker 2: apparently enough they felt comfortable. And it was a person
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  Speaker 2: out for a smoke who found who him, who heard him.
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  Speaker 2: It was like early morning hours. I'm talking like before dawn,
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  Speaker 2: after mid night, before dawn, middle of the night kind
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  Speaker 2: of a thing. Guy goes out, has a cigarette in
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  Speaker 2: his back porch, back stoop area, and here's a cry
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  Speaker 2: for help, and it's the man in the cemetery in
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  Speaker 2: a wooded area. They do believe that at some point
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  Speaker 2: because earlier in the search, the canine the canines was
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  Speaker 2: out and was tracking a scent, but it was windyed,
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  Speaker 2: so we lost the scent. Where this man was found
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  Speaker 2: was not far away from that, but not where the
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  Speaker 2: dog would have found him. So what they believe is
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  Speaker 2: that he was moving. He was probably still the man
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  Speaker 2: was still probably moving, not actively hunkered down, sure, but
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  Speaker 2: that does tell you that you know those how efficient
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  Speaker 2: and effective a dog can be in a search, So
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, kind of close to that. So
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  Speaker 2: good outcome for everybody, but it would be a horrible
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  Speaker 2: thing to go through as a family member.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely to go through that, and it could have
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: ended up tragic. I mean it was so cold that
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: anybody being out there for a long enough time, it
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: really could have ended badly. But if you got somebody
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: very young or.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I look at it, anybody who could be endangered. And
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: we'll see that from time to time where maybe they
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: have somebody look at your camera, there was somebody in
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: your neighborhood that was less spotted maybe twelve hours ago.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Nobody's talked to them. They could be in danger for
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: different reasons. And the fact here they couldn't pick him
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: up on camera that was something. And he didn't have
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: his cell phone with him, so they weren't able to
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: detect him there or for him to call for help. Apparently,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: so all of these things that they have to analyze
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: and bring together.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: The amazing they was, did they say, like why they
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: believe he was kind of out there to begin with.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Or no, you know, that's that's something that I asked to,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: because my mind would go to, what was there a
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: health issue that leads in there. It's just I don't
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: know how you would kind of look at that, or
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: is it somebody who got disoriented on a one off
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: situation if you're cold. I don't know. There's lots of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: reasons that that could happen. They just left it at
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: that he'd had a health issue or has a health issue.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, at least a safe outcome is all
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: that matters here. Community coming together, love that they have
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: all these things in place there. They had drones with
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: thermal imaging.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know we have that around you.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Jones and thermal imaging is really interesting to watch When
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: that was first coming out, I can remember doing a
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: story about it and how they could go into a
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: fire and they were able Now, obviously you have fire
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: all around you and have hot but they were able
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: to determine like the shape of a person and the
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: warmth of their body was emitting, which is really helpful.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: And when you're talking about a cold search like this, yeah,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: that you're able to kind of like hone in and
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: pick up body heat.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and differentiate between a person and an animal so crazy,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: but absolutely we have it. We're out of time sharp.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: We always time travel when we talk.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I know's yeah, we do.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Like thirty seconds. But thank you so much for coming in.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: We look forward to having you back in the booth
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and for more coverage on these stories and others, be
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: sure to visit shawlocal dot com. Charlene, thank you.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yep, you're welcome.