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Ken Rosenthal reveals details about Angels’ Ohtani failure + Pete Alonso’s BIG improvements · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: He described his swing as out of control. Well, he
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Speaker 1: fixed it, and he fixed his mind by fixing his
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Speaker 1: body first and not talking about getting in shape, just
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Speaker 1: the way he moved in the box, and that's what
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Speaker 1: changed everything.
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Speaker 2: That's the inside scoop with that, FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,
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Speaker 2: I'm getting right to the headliner from this morning in
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Speaker 2: the Athletic that you released. The Angels didn't capitalize on
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Speaker 2: having show Aotani. Now they get to watch the Dodgers do.
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Speaker 2: So it sounds like a simple headline, but then can
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Speaker 2: you get into how the mistakes were made over the
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Speaker 2: course of his career with the team.
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Speaker 1: First of all, this hit me when I was at
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Speaker 1: Dodgers camp this spring and there were thousands of people
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Speaker 1: on the backfield at Dodgers' camp, and I thought to myself,
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Speaker 1: this is an amazing phenomenon. We all know about the
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Speaker 1: money they've made, we all know about Otani being followed
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Speaker 1: by Yamamoto and Nasasaki, and why couldn't this have been
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Speaker 1: the Angels. That's what came to me. The Angels had Otani,
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Speaker 1: they had him for six years, and yet they never
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Speaker 1: capitalized in the way that the Dodgers have and really
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Speaker 1: what I talked about in the article were three things. One,
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Speaker 1: their failure to capitalize economically the way the Dodgers have,
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Speaker 1: and that means bringing in sponsorships, it means bringing in fans. Now,
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Speaker 1: they had obviously some economic benefit, that's perhaps one reason
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Speaker 1: why they wouldn't trade him, but they didn't do it
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Speaker 1: to the extent that the Dodgers have done it. And
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Speaker 1: for those who might say, well, that's la Anaheim and
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Speaker 1: Orange County is a pretty nice place too, and there's
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Speaker 1: plenty of things to do there, Disneyland and beaches and knots,
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Speaker 1: very farm, you can go on and on. So they
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Speaker 1: had every opportunity didn't take advantage of that. Then they
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Speaker 1: had every opportunity to trade Otani, and they didn't do that.
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Speaker 1: And in the article I mentioned that Jackson Merrill was
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Speaker 1: at one point part of the talks between the Padres
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Speaker 1: and Angels when they were discussing Otani. This was in
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Speaker 1: twenty two the deadline. Remember, the Padres at that time
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Speaker 1: couldn't get Otani, so they pivoted to Sodo. Two and
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Speaker 1: a half years of control for Sodo, one and a
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Speaker 1: half Forrotani. But the packages likely would have been similar.
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Speaker 1: This was show he Otani, and again Merrill was part
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Speaker 1: of it. Whether he would have been part of the
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Speaker 1: final deal hard to say. We don't know. But the
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Speaker 1: mere fact that they could have made that kind of
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Speaker 1: deal for Otani, well, it just shows that again they
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Speaker 1: missed on an opportunity. Now, if you were going to
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Speaker 1: sign on Tani, if you had that in your head, okay,
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Speaker 1: then maybe you don't trade him, and maybe you think
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Speaker 1: we'll just keep them and do that. But they didn't
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Speaker 1: sign on Tani either. So in every step, every stage here,
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Speaker 1: they fell short and they missed an opportunity. And that's
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Speaker 1: why I wrote the story. People were saying, some of
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Speaker 1: them in the comments, Hey, whoa, whoa, we know all this. Well, no,
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Speaker 1: you don't know all of it. First of all, there's
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Speaker 1: some new stuff in there. And second of all, it's
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Speaker 1: the whole piece together. It's everything. It's the failure to
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Speaker 1: capitalize financially, it's the failure to trade him, and then
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Speaker 1: the failure to sign him when you could have had
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Speaker 1: Otani for the same deal that he took from the Dodgers. Now,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that Otani would have taken the Angels
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Speaker 1: over the Dodgers, but the Angels didn't value him properly,
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Speaker 1: didn't see his place in the sport properly, and it
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Speaker 1: all led.
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Speaker 3: To all this. Okay, you kind of hit it on
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Speaker 3: the article, but I'll let you say it. Who's to blame?
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Speaker 3: Who's to blame in the Angels organization? Ultimately?
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Speaker 1: Well, the article is about Ardi Moreno and why he
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Speaker 1: is the one to blame because he is the one,
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Speaker 1: of course, as the owner overseeing all this, he was
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Speaker 1: the one who did not take advantage full advantage of
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Speaker 1: the economic benefits. He's the one who did not allow
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Speaker 1: his front office to trade O'tani, and of course he's
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Speaker 1: the one who ultimately did not sign Otani either. So yes,
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Speaker 1: Moreno is the focal point of this, the centerpiece of this,
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Speaker 1: And it just strikes me as here's a team with
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Speaker 1: every possibility of going into its tenth straight losing season.
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Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen here. They're going to have
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Speaker 1: their tenth straight losing season, and for six of those
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Speaker 1: they had Shohyo Tani and Mike Trout. O'tani was hurt
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Speaker 1: for part of that. Trout was heard for a lot
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Speaker 1: of it, but they never took advantage.
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Speaker 2: I'm also seeing in the article how Arty Moreno thought
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Speaker 2: that the contract would be in the fours. It was
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Speaker 2: in the fours in net present value. So does he
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Speaker 2: not understand how deferrals worked and that's why he thought
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Speaker 2: it was actually seven hundred but it's not.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Scott and Tom Verducci was the one
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Speaker 1: who reported that, courting a source saying that he thought
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Speaker 1: Arty Moreno did that the contract would be in the fours.
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Speaker 1: And you're right, in present day value once you eliminate
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Speaker 1: the deferrals or incorporate the deferrals, I should say then yes,
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Speaker 1: by both the union's calculation and the league's calculation, it's
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Speaker 1: in the four hundred million five one hundred million range.
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Speaker 1: That's where he supposedly wanted to be. My guess is
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Speaker 1: and I wrote this that he objected to the total
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Speaker 1: value the seven hundred million, and that's why he made
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Speaker 1: the decision not to even engage the Angels. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: engage Otani on that particular number that he was talking about.
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Speaker 3: Do you know if Atani and obviously he would be
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Speaker 3: the one to asked, but saw the Angels and how
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Speaker 3: they had money into Trout, how they had money into
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Speaker 3: Rendon and he said, well, that kind.
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Speaker 1: Of locks us up.
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Speaker 3: Do you think he learned that from the Angels? That
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Speaker 3: I don't want my team to be locked up and
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Speaker 3: I want to win. I saw what happens when it's
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Speaker 3: all locked up into two players.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Eric, He's never addressed that, and I'm
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Speaker 1: quite certain never will address that. In my opinion, and
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Speaker 1: this is just me talking. He saw the whole view
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Speaker 1: of the Angels what you just mentioned. Yes, also some
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Speaker 1: of the stuff we've mentioned this year, about what they
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Speaker 1: do with their travel schedule, right leaving later than they
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Speaker 1: should be leaving on certain getaway days. Just the way
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Speaker 1: they went about their business overall, the way they tried
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Speaker 1: to build a team, the way they developed everything. He
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Speaker 1: saw that, he was living it, and then he sees
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to join a team that is at the
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Speaker 1: vanguard of all these things, Los Angeles Dodgers. To me,
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Speaker 1: it was a pretty simple decision.
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Speaker 2: Merril part of that article is certainly getting attention from
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Speaker 2: Padres fans who are like, oh my gosh, thank you
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Speaker 2: so much that they were not picking up on what
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Speaker 2: they should actually be doing at the time. So I
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Speaker 2: think the way to cap this is spinning it forward.
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Speaker 2: Here we are team's not good again probably and should
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Speaker 2: be sellers at the trade deadline. A state of the
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Speaker 2: Angels for a moment, like what is next for this team?
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Speaker 2: You know, Trout's hurt again, unfortunately, and it just seems
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Speaker 2: like the wheels are turned and nothing's actually moving forward.
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Speaker 1: I can see where you say that, Scott. They would
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Speaker 1: say that they've got a better base of young talent
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Speaker 1: than they've had in quite some time. And we see
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Speaker 1: that to an extent. We see that Netto and o'hapi,
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Speaker 1: Jose Soriano, some of the players that might be coming,
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Speaker 1: they're better off with pitching than they've been in the
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Speaker 1: minor leagues than they have been in the past. But
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Speaker 1: the same thing applies, well where you're going with it,
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Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do about it now? With Trout?
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Speaker 1: Even if he gets healthy and gets hot, and he
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Speaker 1: wasn't really hot before he got hurt. Here he was
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Speaker 1: hitting home runs, but he was not hitting for average.
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Speaker 1: Can you trade him at the deadline. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: difficult off season, we mean more likely if he is
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Speaker 1: even willing to go, And what they should do is
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Speaker 1: probably go in that direction. And wait for Ren Dolan's
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Speaker 1: contract to expire, pass on Trout or at least pass
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Speaker 1: him along and get what you can out of that,
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Speaker 1: at least get the contract off your books or most
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Speaker 1: of it, and then go forward. But I don't see
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Speaker 1: them doing that. Ardi Morino has not done things along
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Speaker 1: those lines since he has been older. And while I
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Speaker 1: applaud him for wanting to be competitive, that's great, but
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Speaker 1: you got to figure out how to do it, and
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Speaker 1: they have not done that.
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Speaker 5: So you guys talk about as far west, we're going
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Speaker 5: to come back to the East coast here a little bit.
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Speaker 5: Talk a little bit about Pete Alonzo. I mean when
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Speaker 5: you talk about hitters, and you talk about specific things
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Speaker 5: the hitters, there's a couple of things that you try
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Speaker 5: and teach guys. It's one is pitch recognition swinging at
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Speaker 5: the right pitches, and one is plate discipline. And I
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Speaker 5: think Pete Alonzo last year, as you talked about, struggled
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Speaker 5: in that he was swinging a lot of pitches. And
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Speaker 5: you've said in this article how much he's improved. Can
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Speaker 5: you expand on that a little bit and and please
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Speaker 5: let the audience know, if they haven't already, how good
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Speaker 5: this guy has been this year so far.
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Speaker 1: Well, what strikes me about Alonzo is which strikes a
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Speaker 1: lot of people about Alonzo this season, just how much
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Speaker 1: he has improved the play discipline. And that was the
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Speaker 1: subject to that story. And what I set out to
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Speaker 1: do is find out why what has he done batting
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Speaker 1: eye just get that much better from one season to
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Speaker 1: the next. That seemed improbable to me, And he explained,
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Speaker 1: and Eric Shavez, the Met's hitting coach, explained as well
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Speaker 1: that what really happened is he got his body under control.
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Speaker 1: He's staying back now, he is more efficient in his movement.
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Speaker 1: He is just better positioned to see the ball, and
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Speaker 1: that enables him to have better control of the strike zone,
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Speaker 1: to dominate the strike zone, and when you're swinging the
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Speaker 1: better pitches to hit, I don't need to tell either
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Speaker 1: of you guys, obviously you're gonna have a better chance
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Speaker 1: of doing some damage. That is what's happened now. He
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Speaker 1: slumped a little bit of late going into the Subway
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Speaker 1: Series tonight, but overall, strikeout percentage is way down, walk
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Speaker 1: percentage is way up. He was at the time I
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Speaker 1: wrote the article in the top fifteen in changes in
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Speaker 1: both those categories, and it's really been cool to see
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Speaker 1: how he dedicated himself in the offseason to getting better
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Speaker 1: with this. He was not happy last season. He described
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Speaker 1: his swing as out of control. Well, he fixed it
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Speaker 1: and he fixed his mind by fixing his body first
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Speaker 1: and not talking about getting in shape, just what the
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Speaker 1: way he moved in the box, and that's what changed everything.
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Speaker 3: Wait, so he was out of control in a free
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Speaker 3: agent year trying to do more. WHOA That is shocking
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Speaker 3: And people say, oh, there's no free agency curse, there's
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Speaker 3: no free like. Some guys don't handle it. And I'm
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Speaker 3: not saying Pete can't handle it, and he can become
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Speaker 3: a free agent again, but there is that level of
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Speaker 3: you know, you hit it on the head. You just
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Speaker 3: wrote it in a different way than a baseball player
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Speaker 3: would say. I'm just trying to do everything. I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to hit my six home runs tonight in one swing.
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Speaker 3: And that gets your body out of control. So a calm, cool,
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Speaker 3: collected polar bear probably is more under control.
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Speaker 1: Right, Eric. And you make the point about the free
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Speaker 1: agent year, and it's a valid one. Guys do sometimes
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Speaker 1: get out of themselves in a free agent year. And
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Speaker 1: then we seen other guys perform like never before in
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Speaker 1: their free agent years too. Soto. I wouldn't call him
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Speaker 1: that or say that about him, but he had a
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Speaker 1: great free agent year Alonso. Maybe he did get away
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Speaker 1: from himself because of that, or maybe that contributed to it.
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Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, Eric, this is a free agent
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Speaker 1: year too, and he seemingly has everything under control.
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Speaker 2: Hey, what do you think about the Wan Soto factor
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Speaker 2: for the lineup for the Mets?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 2: I mean, this a guy who obviously is going to
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Speaker 2: infuse you know what he does to a lineup, which
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Speaker 2: is of course, get on base, clutch, hits some swag.
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Speaker 2: You know he's there. So how much of a fact
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Speaker 2: do you do you think that's been for Pete just
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Speaker 2: to have another superstar there on board, not like they
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Speaker 2: don't have already. I mean, I know Lindor was an
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Speaker 2: MVP candidate last year, but I mean this lineup's really
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Speaker 2: good look on paper, and we're seeing that play out
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Speaker 2: for a first place team.
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Speaker 1: Certainly the first three hitters in that lineup, that's a factor.
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Speaker 1: It's a force and which are by lind Or Soto Alonso.
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Speaker 1: And when you ask statistical analys analysts about lineup protection.
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Speaker 1: They say, it's more in front of you than behind you.
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Speaker 1: Alonzo certainly has that this year. Lindor got off to
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Speaker 1: a much better start than usual, Sodo not on fire,
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Speaker 1: but still getting on base, So I am sure that helps.
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Speaker 1: But it seems to me, Scott, in this particular case,
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Speaker 1: it's more Alonzo doing what he needed to do to
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Speaker 1: improve himself in the box. That to me seems to
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Speaker 1: be the overriding thing, because if he was the same
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Speaker 1: hitter he was last year, even with perhaps greater opportunities
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Speaker 1: or more fastballs, whatever my case might be, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: The deeper performing like this.
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Speaker 2: My last one, and it relates to this still is
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Speaker 2: of course the subway series going down, and Juan Soto
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Speaker 2: seems to be public enemy number one in Yankee fan
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Speaker 2: brains right now. For me, I mean, being in New
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Speaker 2: York City about half the year, I hear his name
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Speaker 2: all the time from Yanks fans. I hate him. I
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Speaker 2: can't stand him. To me, I've kind of hit my point, Ken,
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Speaker 2: So I'm wondering where you're at with this, because when
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Speaker 2: we do reflect on the offseason that we had talking
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Speaker 2: to you about the chase, the Mets paid more money
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Speaker 2: for Juan Soto period, and everyone including you, always said
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Speaker 2: he is going to follow the money. Also, this isn't
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Speaker 2: Derek Jeter. He was on the team for one year
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Speaker 2: and brought them to the World Series. So is this
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Speaker 2: kind of silly because when we see the reaction, we
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Speaker 2: know it's going to be wild. It's going to be
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Speaker 2: like this guy is a criminal and all he did
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Speaker 2: was bring them some success for a year and then
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Speaker 2: got paid by someone else for it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know the default emotion for a lot of
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Speaker 1: fans is anger. And certainly if I were a Yankee
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Speaker 1: fan and I was raised to boo, which I wasn't,
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Speaker 1: I was raised not to boo, I why we're a
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Speaker 1: Yankee fan In that particular mindset, I'd be bowed him tonight.
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Speaker 1: I'd be bowing him just for the heck why not?
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Speaker 1: But if you look at the reality, Scott, first of all,
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Speaker 1: what you said is right. I know it's only five
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Speaker 1: million in total value, but there was a year difference
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Speaker 1: in that too, so the Yankee AAV was lower, whatever
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Speaker 1: factor in that. And if you're a Yankee fan, you're
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Speaker 1: also perhaps thinking, you know what, our team with that contract,
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Speaker 1: maybe we wouldn't be better off, And that is a
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Speaker 1: fair question to ask.
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Speaker 3: You.
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Speaker 1: Look at the Yankees. Their offense has been great without Soda,
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Speaker 1: the way they restructured it with gold Schmidt and much
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Speaker 1: lesser extent Bellinger, with Grisham emerging or re emerging now
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Speaker 1: as a real force, with the younger players coming on,
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Speaker 1: Ben rice foremost among them. They're fine without Sodo. So
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get booed. He might even thrive on
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Speaker 1: getting booed. That seems to be the way Wan goes
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Speaker 1: about it. But I don't know that fan should be
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Speaker 1: so much in a lather. But I can't really say
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Speaker 1: one way or the other, can't really give an opinion
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Speaker 1: because I'm not a fan like that. I'm a fan
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Speaker 1: of the game. Obviously, I cover the sport, but I
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Speaker 1: don't have an allegiance to one team, and if I did,
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Speaker 1: perhaps then I wouldn't even try to be rational about it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why fan is short for fanatic. And
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Speaker 3: you've found to mention some of that money went into
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Speaker 3: Max Freed, who then filled in for Garrett Cole who's
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Speaker 3: been hurt. But quick question here at the end for
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Speaker 3: you, you're not really at a rivalry games the Braves Red
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Speaker 3: Sox is not really rivalry. Some of the teams don't
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Speaker 3: have that like rivalry like we have for other teams.
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Speaker 3: What's your favorite one to cover over the years of
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Speaker 3: all the game, of all the rivalries, true rivalries.
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Speaker 1: Well, the Braves played in Boston at one point, so
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Speaker 1: that's where we're getting that from. I'm with Eric. Well,
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Speaker 1: I grew up in New York. Actually, I'm from Long Island.
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Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, and I'm pretty old,
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Speaker 1: I know there was no Inner League play and in
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Speaker 1: New York we had something called the Mayor's Trophy Game,
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Speaker 1: and that was an exhibition game that took place during
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Speaker 1: the season every year, and the Mets and Yankees would play.
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Speaker 1: I grew up a Mets fan, and before anybody gets
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Speaker 1: carried away, you lose that the moment you start the job,
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Speaker 1: pretty much. But when they would play the Yankees, it
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Speaker 1: was so exciting, and that to me has always stood out.
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Speaker 1: Mets Yankees. It's for ownership of the city. It's kind
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Speaker 1: of like, and I wish AJ was on for this
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Speaker 1: matter alone. Clubs White Sox is a big thing too,
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Speaker 1: same way at Dodgers, Angels, no Giants, as when it
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Speaker 1: was going no, but this one.
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Speaker 3: You grew up a.
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Speaker 1: Mets fan, then you don't like the Yankees. You grew
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Speaker 1: up a Yankee fan, then you have contempt for the Mets.
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Speaker 1: And I always thought that was a really cool thing,
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Speaker 1: a cool rivalry, and when they played in the World
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Speaker 1: Series in two thousand that was the peak of this.
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Speaker 1: So that one is my favorite for personal reasons because
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Speaker 1: I grew up up there. Obviously, if my I grow
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Speaker 1: somewhere else, maybe i'd feel differently.
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Speaker 2: I'm shocked, Ken, I can't believe you didn't say the
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Speaker 2: Vetter series the cool.
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Speaker 1: It's cool, but it's just not that real, no exactly.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, we're really stretching here. I mean I've been
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Speaker 2: around actually, fortunately Eddie Vetter quite a bit during the
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Speaker 2: Cubs run and that when I saw Vetter series, it
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Speaker 2: was like, oh, is there a Cubs involvement?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, we'll get into that later. But Ken,
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Speaker 2: have a good weekend. We'll watch you this weekend, and
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Speaker 2: then we'll talk to you on Monday and hear from
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Speaker 2: you for Fair Territory. Thanks guys, Thank you, Ken Rosenthal.
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Speaker 2: Fair Territory back on Monday. Obviously, just did yesterday's live
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Speaker 2: show with Alana Rizzo. If you want to hear Ken's
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Speaker 2: take on Pete Rose, we asked him about it the
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Speaker 2: other day and he covered it here on Fair Territory,
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Speaker 2: so go check out that episode. Obviously, still super super
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Speaker 2: relevant everything you talked about in the story that he
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Speaker 2: wrote this week too. YouTube podcast wherever you get it.
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Speaker 2: Type in Fair Territory,