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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, so I want you to imagine something for a second.
- 0:02Speaker 1: Just picture yourself sitting on a jury.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Right, a very heavy responsibility.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Exactly. And the defendant is sitting, you know, maybe 20
- 0:11Speaker 1: feet away from you in the courtroom.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Just right there in the room.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Yeah. And your intuition, like your basic human survival instinct,
- 0:18Speaker 1: is just screaming at you that this person is dangerous.
- 0:21Speaker 2: That they're a predator. Right.
- 0:23Speaker 1: But the judge looks at you and gives you very
- 0:25Speaker 1: strict instructions. You absolutely cannot convict this guy on a feeling.
- 0:29Speaker 2: You can't convict on rumors either.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Right. You can't use rumors from 30 years ago. You
- 0:34Speaker 1: can only look at the blood spatter and the bullet
- 0:36Speaker 1: casings from one specific night.
- 0:39Speaker 2: It is a profound test of the justice system. How
- 0:42Speaker 2: do you separate that gut feeling about someone's character from
- 0:45Speaker 2: the strict physical evidence of a crime?
- 0:48Speaker 1: It's incredibly difficult. And, well, welcome to today's deep dive.
- 0:53Speaker 1: We are unpacking a genuinely mind-bending story today.
- 0:57Speaker 2: We really are. We're looking at a sprawling four-decade saga.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. We are basing this off a really detailed,
- 1:05Speaker 1: comprehensive article that explores the true story behind the Netflix
- 1:09Speaker 1: documentary that just came out in September 2026, directed by
- 1:13Speaker 1: Chris Smith.
- 1:14Speaker 2: It's called The Widower Till Death Do Us Part.
- 1:16Speaker 1: That's the one. Okay, let's unpack this, because the best
- 1:19Speaker 1: way I can describe this story is like a Russian
- 1:21Speaker 1: nesting doll.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great way to put it.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Right. Because every time you think you've reached the core crime,
- 1:28Speaker 1: you know, the center of it all, you open it
- 1:30Speaker 1: up and find another marriage.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Another state, another tragedy waiting inside.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Exactly. Six marriages, four dead wives in this dizzying legal maze.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Our mission today is to explore that really perilous boundary
- 1:46Speaker 1: between a highly suspicious life and a legally proven murder.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And we have to maintain a calm analytical tone here
- 1:54Speaker 2: because the media, you know, they love to throw around
- 1:56Speaker 2: catchy nicknames.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. Right.
- 1:59Speaker 2: The Black Widower. It sells papers. But the legal system
- 2:03Speaker 2: demands cold, hard facts. It doesn't care about spooky nicknames.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Which is what makes this so fascinating. We've got a
- 2:10Speaker 1: guy with this incredibly dark cloud of circumstantial history surrounding him.
- 2:14Speaker 2: But he was ultimately cornered by the silent physical evidence
- 2:17Speaker 2: of just one single night.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Yeah, the physical geometry of a crime scene. So to
- 2:23Speaker 1: understand the end of the line for this guy, Thomas Randolph,
- 2:25Speaker 1: we really have to start at the scene of the
- 2:27Speaker 1: crime that finally locked him away.
- 2:29Speaker 2: We have to look at the night of May 8th, 2008.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Bring us into that house. It's a Thursday, right?
- 2:36Speaker 2: Yes, Thursday, May 8th, 2008. It's Mother's Day weekend in
- 2:39Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Nevada. Okay. Thomas Randolph is 53 years old
- 2:43Speaker 2: at the time. His sixth wife, Sharon Koss, is 57.
- 2:47Speaker 1: His sixth wife. Yes. Wow. Yes.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And when the patrol officers arrive at the house that night,
- 2:53Speaker 2: Randolph gives them this very classic home invasion narrative.
- 2:57Speaker 1: What's his exact story? Like via the 911 call and
- 3:00Speaker 1: the walkthroughs he did with the cops?
- 3:02Speaker 2: So he claims that he and Sharon had just returned
- 3:04Speaker 2: home from a dinner out. They pull the car into
- 3:06Speaker 2: the garage.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Okay. Pretty standard. Right.
- 3:08Speaker 2: But then Randolph says he decides to stay out in
- 3:11Speaker 2: the car for a few moments. Why? Well, he says
- 3:13Speaker 2: he left the radio blaring. Sharon gets out and goes
- 3:16Speaker 2: inside the house alone. He says a few minutes pass
- 3:18Speaker 2: out there in the car.
- 3:19Speaker 1: With the radio blasting.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Exactly. He tells detectives that he either heard a sudden
- 3:24Speaker 2: gunshot or, and he offers a variation here, he didn't
- 3:27Speaker 2: hear anything at all.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Wait, how do you not know if you heard a gunshot?
- 3:31Speaker 2: He blames his hearing loss and, of course, the loud
- 3:33Speaker 2: car radio. Oh, wow.
- 3:35Speaker 1: That is a very convenient built-in excuse for any timeline discrepancies.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Very much so. It gives him wiggle room. So eventually
- 3:42Speaker 2: he walks into the house. He steps into the hallway
- 3:45Speaker 2: and claims he finds Sharon lying on the floor.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Oh, God. Yeah.
- 3:48Speaker 2: She's bleeding heavily from a fatal gunshot wound to the head.
- 3:52Speaker 2: And at that exact moment, according to him, he looks
- 3:55Speaker 2: up and sees a man wearing a ski mask.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Just standing there.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Standing there, clutching a bag of Sharon's jewelry.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Okay, so what does he do?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Randolph says he immediately retreats to another room. grabs a handgun,
- 4:07Speaker 2: steps back into the hallway, and confronts the intruder.
- 4:09Speaker 1: A frantic shootout. Right.
- 4:11Speaker 2: He says he fires, hitting the masked man in the head.
- 4:14Speaker 2: He then checks the rest of the house, attempts CPR
- 4:16Speaker 2: on his wife, and finally dials 911.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Okay, I have to stop right there. Because I'm just
- 4:22Speaker 1: trying to look at this from the perspective of a burglar.
- 4:24Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? No.
- 4:27Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a burglar, and you're trying to
- 4:29Speaker 1: quietly rob a house, and you hear a car pull
- 4:31Speaker 1: into the garage, the automatic door opens, the engine is running,
- 4:35Speaker 1: Why on earth do you stay inside the house? You'd run. Exactly.
- 4:41Speaker 1: The element of surprise is completely gone. Your escape route
- 4:44Speaker 1: is compromised. The homeowners are literally in the garage. Any
- 4:48Speaker 1: rational thief is going to drop the jewelry and sprint
- 4:51Speaker 1: out the back door.
- 4:52Speaker 2: They certainly aren't going to linger in a narrow hallway
- 4:55Speaker 2: waiting for a confrontation.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:57Speaker 2: And that behavioral anomaly is exactly what seasoned detectives look for.
- 5:01Speaker 2: It defies the standard psychology of a property crime.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Because... Burglars want property. They don't want bodies.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Precisely. But things get infinitely more complicated when the crime
- 5:11Speaker 2: scene technicians arrive and actually pull that ski mask off
- 5:15Speaker 2: the dead intruder.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Because it wasn't a stranger.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Far from it. The intruder was a 38-year-old man named
- 5:22Speaker 2: Michael James Miller.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And who was he?
- 5:25Speaker 2: He was a local handyman, but he wasn't just some
- 5:27Speaker 2: guy from the Yellow Pages. Investigators pulled the phone records. Uh-huh.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Thomas Randolph and Michael Miller had exchanged nearly 300 phone
- 5:35Speaker 2: calls in the months preceding that night.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Wait, really? 300 calls?
- 5:40Speaker 2: Nearly 300, yes.
- 5:42Speaker 1: You don't call your handyman 300 times unless you're, like,
- 5:46Speaker 1: building the Taj Mahal together. That is an insane amount
- 5:49Speaker 1: of communication.
- 5:50Speaker 2: It really is. It showed an incredibly close private relationship.
- 5:55Speaker 2: So you have Vegas homicide detectives walking into a house
- 5:57Speaker 2: where a husband claims he shot a random burglar. only
- 6:00Speaker 2: to find out the burglar is essentially on his speed dial.
- 6:03Speaker 1: That immediately smells like a setup.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Enter Detective Dean O'Kelly. He's the crime scene analyst. And
- 6:09Speaker 2: he looks at this layout, and instead of just listening
- 6:11Speaker 2: to Randolph's story, he lets the house speak.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I love that. The scene as an argument against the story.
- 6:18Speaker 1: So let's break down what O'Kelly found.
- 6:21Speaker 2: O'Kelly approaches it like a forensic Architect. Let's start with
- 6:23Speaker 2: that ski mask. When a human being is shot in
- 6:26Speaker 2: the head, the physics of the impact are Well, they're
- 6:29Speaker 2: devastating and messy.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:30Speaker 2: A bullet entering the skull creates rapid expansion, massive tissue damage,
- 6:34Speaker 2: and what we call back spatter.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Which is that fine mist of blood that blows backward
- 6:38Speaker 1: toward the shooter?
- 6:39Speaker 2: Correct. Now, Randolph claimed he shot a masked man in
- 6:42Speaker 2: the head. The mask was found lying on the garage
- 6:45Speaker 2: floor near Miller's body.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Okay, so it should be covered in evidence.
- 6:49Speaker 2: But when forensics examined that mask, it was pristine. Pristine.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Pristine.
- 6:54Speaker 2: It had no bullet holes in the fabric. It contained
- 6:57Speaker 2: zero biological material, no bone fragments, no tissue, no high-velocity
- 7:02Speaker 2: blood spatter whatsoever.
- 7:04Speaker 1: That's physically impossible.
- 7:05Speaker 2: I mean, you cannot shoot a man wearing a mask
- 7:08Speaker 2: without damaging or staining the mask.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 7:10Speaker 2: It heavily implies the mask was placed there after the fact.
- 7:14Speaker 2: It was a prop.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So the scene was staged.
- 7:17Speaker 2: And the contradictions didn't stop at the fabric. Let's look
- 7:20Speaker 2: at the ballistics.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Let's do it.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Randolph described this process frantic, dynamic exchange of gunfire in
- 7:26Speaker 2: a narrow hallway. But the mechanics of a semi-automatic weapon
- 7:30Speaker 2: dictate that when a round is fired, a brass casing
- 7:33Speaker 2: is violently ejected from the side of the gun.
- 7:35Speaker 1: And in a narrow hallway, those casings are going to
- 7:38Speaker 1: bounce off the walls and land right there on the floor.
- 7:41Speaker 1: They don't just disappear. They don't.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Yet investigators scoured that hallway. There were no bullet casings
- 7:47Speaker 2: matching Randolph's weapon in the area where he claimed to
- 7:50Speaker 2: have fired the fatal shots.
- 7:52Speaker 1: No casings?
- 7:53Speaker 2: None. Furthermore, there was no blood pooling or spatter in
- 7:56Speaker 2: the locations where a chaotic shootout would have inevitably left
- 8:00Speaker 2: a trail.
- 8:01Speaker 1: It's like comparing his timeline to a badly edited movie scene.
- 8:04Speaker 1: You know, where in one shot the actor's holding a
- 8:06Speaker 1: glass and the next it's gone?
- 8:08Speaker 2: That's a perfect analogy.
- 8:10Speaker 1: The narrative just doesn't match the physical reality. And speaking
- 8:14Speaker 1: of timelines, how long did he claim this whole sequence took?
- 8:18Speaker 2: He told detectives that the entire thing, from the moment
- 8:20Speaker 2: Sharon walked through the door... The gunfire, the sweep of
- 8:24Speaker 2: the house, the CPR, and the 911 call took maybe
- 8:27Speaker 2: two or three minutes.
- 8:28Speaker 1: A complete blur.
- 8:29Speaker 2: A rapid, terrifying blur. But digital clocks don't lie.
- 8:34Speaker 1: They sure don't. And neither do the neighbors. Right.
- 8:37Speaker 2: A neighbor, Mark Bartlett, happened to be on a phone
- 8:40Speaker 2: call that evening. Cellular records provide an unimpeachable timestamp. Bartlett
- 8:45Speaker 2: heard the distinct sound of gunshots at exactly 8.33 p.m.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Okay, 8.33 p.m. But Randolph's frantic 911 call didn't log
- 8:53Speaker 1: into dispatch until 844 or 845 p.m.
- 8:57Speaker 2: That is an 11 to 12 minute gap.
- 8:59Speaker 1: 11 minutes is an absolute eternity in a crisis.
- 9:03Speaker 2: It really is.
- 9:04Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing for 12 minutes while
- 9:07Speaker 1: your wife is on the floor? That is more than
- 9:09Speaker 1: enough time to stage a scene. You can move a mask.
- 9:13Speaker 1: You can collect the brass casings. You can literally stand
- 9:15Speaker 1: in the mirror and rehearse your 911 script.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Which is fascinating because this leads the prosecution and defense
- 9:21Speaker 2: to construct two wildly different theories.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear them. We've got to be impartial here.
- 9:27Speaker 1: What's the prosecution's theory?
- 9:29Speaker 2: The prosecution looks at the 300 phone calls, the spotless mask,
- 9:33Speaker 2: the missing casings, and the 11-minute void. They argue that
- 9:36Speaker 2: Michael Miller was never a burglar.
- 9:39Speaker 1: He was a hitman? Exactly.
- 9:41Speaker 2: They argue that Randolph hired Miller to kill Sharon in
- 9:43Speaker 2: a staged home invasion for insurance money and then double-crossed him.
- 9:47Speaker 2: He killed Miller to silence the Ainley witness.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Wow. And the defense?
- 9:51Speaker 2: The defense argues that Miller was a rogue burglar. They
- 9:54Speaker 2: claim he acted alone, desperate for money, and that Randolph
- 9:58Speaker 2: fired in genuine fear for his life when he saw
- 10:00Speaker 2: a masked man who had just shot his wife.
- 10:03Speaker 1: So no conspiracy?
- 10:04Speaker 2: Right. They emphasize that there is no living witness to
- 10:07Speaker 2: prove a solicitation occurred.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Man, the physical scene tells such a vivid story of
- 10:12Speaker 1: a staged home invasion. But to understand why investigators immediately
- 10:17Speaker 1: smelled a rat, We have to look at who else
- 10:20Speaker 1: was standing in the room taking notes. Yes. Yeah.
- 10:22Speaker 2: A television producer.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Introduce us to Dan Slepian.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Because this is where the media aspect of this case
- 10:28Speaker 2: gets wild. Dan Slepian was a producer for Dateline NBC.
- 10:32Speaker 2: And the very next day after the shooting, he was
- 10:34Speaker 2: tipped off by a colleague of Detective O'Kelly.
- 10:37Speaker 1: What did the colleague say?
- 10:38Speaker 2: He basically said, you might want to pay attention to
- 10:40Speaker 2: this one.
- 10:42Speaker 1: And why was a TV producer even getting that call?
- 10:44Speaker 2: Dan Slepian had highly unusual access. He was actually embedded
- 10:49Speaker 2: with the Las Vegas Homicide Unit at the time.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Embedded? Like, riding along with them?
- 10:54Speaker 2: Exactly. He was filming investigations from the inside. He even
- 10:57Speaker 2: filmed Randolph's eventual 2009 arrest in the snow in Utah.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So he's there with the cops. He was.
- 11:04Speaker 2: And he conducted years of jailhouse interviews. But what's really
- 11:07Speaker 2: striking is Randolph's relationship with the camera.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Most people accused of murder hide from the camera.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Not Randolph.
- 11:14Speaker 1: He embraced it.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Embraced it. He actually told Slepian right to his face,
- 11:19Speaker 2: we're going to become infamous together.
- 11:21Speaker 1: We're going to become infamous together. The hubris is just
- 11:24Speaker 1: off the charts. It's like he thought he could outsmart
- 11:27Speaker 1: the audience, the producer, and the police all at once.
- 11:30Speaker 2: It created a huge ethical and journalistic tension for Slepian.
- 11:34Speaker 2: You know, Slepian built his career advocating for the wrongly convicted.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Right, guys who the system failed.
- 11:39Speaker 2: But here, he realized he was dealing with a man
- 11:42Speaker 2: who was actively manipulating the system. He was using the
- 11:45Speaker 2: camera as a stage.
- 11:46Speaker 1: It's essentially camouflage. He's using his folksy charm to delay proceedings,
- 11:51Speaker 1: fire his lawyers at the last minute, and just generally
- 11:54Speaker 1: run out the clock.
- 11:55Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the psychological profile of this defendant reveals.
- 11:59Speaker 2: He viewed a murder investigation as a performance opportunity.
- 12:03Speaker 1: But the delays weren't just a legal strategy, right?
- 12:05Speaker 2: No. Slepian made a chilling observation. He believed Randolph was
- 12:09Speaker 2: intentionally dragging out the process because he was, quote, waiting
- 12:12Speaker 2: for witnesses to die.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Because memory fades, people move, people pass away. Time is
- 12:18Speaker 1: the enemy of the prosecution.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Exactly. And this brings up an interesting point about the
- 12:22Speaker 2: documentary landscape itself. You had Dateline in 2021, Investigation Discovery
- 12:27Speaker 2: in 2024, and then Netflix in 2026.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Yeah. True crime is a massive industry.
- 12:33Speaker 2: And the New York Times review of the Netflix series
- 12:35Speaker 2: actually called it true crime sensationalism.
- 12:38Speaker 1: But Slepian completely disagreed with that, right?
- 12:40Speaker 2: He did.
- 12:41Speaker 1: He argued that the archive itself, all those hours of footage,
- 12:46Speaker 1: became a crucial witness to Randolph's behavior and manipulation.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Right, because there were indeed many witnesses from Randolph's past
- 12:53Speaker 2: who had really alarming stories to tell. And to grasp
- 12:56Speaker 2: the full scope of what prosecutors were looking at, we
- 12:59Speaker 2: need to do the grim math of his six marriages.
- 13:01Speaker 1: We have to be very methodical here. The media loves
- 13:04Speaker 1: the black widower myth, but we need to look at
- 13:07Speaker 1: the objective factual record. Yeah, the shorthand for dead wives
- 13:11Speaker 1: is incredibly dangerous. It really biases you as a listener.
- 13:14Speaker 1: So let's break them down. Let's start with wife number one.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Wife number one was Kathy Thomas.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Okay.
- 13:20Speaker 2: They were married from 1975 to 1983. Okay, so they
- 13:21Speaker 2: got divorced. Yes, she is alive. She's alive. But she
- 13:27Speaker 2: described a history of extreme control, and she noted he
- 13:31Speaker 2: took out a life insurance policy on her.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Which is a recurring motif. It is.
- 13:36Speaker 2: But the crucial detail came from her new husband. He
- 13:39Speaker 2: later told investigators that Randolph actually tried to recruit him
- 13:43Speaker 2: to kill Kathy.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Wait, Randolph tried to recruit his ex-wife's new husband to
- 13:49Speaker 1: murder her?
- 13:50Speaker 2: According to the new husband, yes.
- 13:52Speaker 1: That is insane. Okay, so that's wife one. What about
- 13:55Speaker 1: wife three?
- 13:56Speaker 2: Leona Stapleton, married 1994 to 1995. They divorced, and she
- 14:01Speaker 2: sadly died of cancer in 2006.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Okay, so clearly not a crime.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Absolutely not a crime.
- 14:06Speaker 1: But she gets lumped into the four dead wives headline anyway.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Exactly, which is why we have to be careful. Now,
- 14:11Speaker 2: wife four, Gayna Allman, married 1995 to 1997. She is
- 14:17Speaker 2: divorced and alive.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Right, but she experienced something pretty terrifying, didn't she?
- 14:22Speaker 2: She did. She described a gun cleaning incident where a
- 14:25Speaker 2: firearm went off, and she believed it was a deliberate
- 14:28Speaker 2: attempt on her life disguised as an accident.
- 14:31Speaker 1: And there was another solicitation allegation here, too.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Yes. A man named Glenn Morrison alleged that Randolph solicited
- 14:38Speaker 2: him for a staged burglary hit on Gayna.
- 14:41Speaker 1: A staged burglary hit. Sound familiar?
- 14:45Speaker 2: The blueprints were always there. Now, wife five is Frances Randolph,
- 14:49Speaker 2: married 1997 to 2004.
- 14:50Speaker 1: And She died after a heart surgery, right?
- 14:55Speaker 2: She did. But before her surgery, Randolph actually recorded her
- 14:59Speaker 2: will on videotape.
- 15:00Speaker 1: He filmed her reading her will? Yes.
- 15:03Speaker 2: And after she died, he collected the life insurance, and
- 15:06Speaker 2: he also successfully sued the hospital for wrongful death and
- 15:09Speaker 2: won a settlement.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Wow. So what does this all mean? We've got early
- 15:15Speaker 1: life insurance policies, handymen approached with dark offers, staged accidents,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and quick payouts.
- 15:22Speaker 2: It highlights the extreme complexity of the case. With Francis,
- 15:25Speaker 2: for instance, is this a murder or is this just
- 15:28Speaker 2: a highly litigious individual who is quick to monetize grief
- 15:32Speaker 2: and take advantage of medical malpractice?
- 15:34Speaker 1: That's the prosecutor's nightmare. How do you prove these past
- 15:38Speaker 1: events are an actual blueprint for murder and not just
- 15:42Speaker 1: a string of terrible coincidences or just a guy being
- 15:44Speaker 1: a bad person?
- 15:45Speaker 2: You have to ask the jury to actively separate moral
- 15:48Speaker 2: revulsion from legal guilt.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Right. And You probably noticed we skipped wife number two
- 15:54Speaker 1: in that timeline.
- 15:55Speaker 2: We did.
- 15:55Speaker 1: And that's because wife number two, Becky Galt, is the
- 15:58Speaker 1: ghost that haunts every single legal proceeding that followed.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Her case is foundational. Let's look at 1986. Becky Galt
- 16:06Speaker 2: died of a gunshot wound to the head on the
- 16:08Speaker 2: exact day Randolph's divorce from Kathy was finalized.
- 16:11Speaker 1: The exact same day.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Yes. Initially, it was ruled a suicide. Randolph collected up
- 16:16Speaker 2: to $ 500, 000 in life insurance.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Half a million dollars.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Right. But the twist came in 1988. A handyman named
- 16:24Speaker 2: Eric Tarantino went to the police.
- 16:26Speaker 1: A handyman?
- 16:27Speaker 2: Yes.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Tarantino claimed that Randolph had spent months trying to hire
- 16:31Speaker 2: him to kill Becky for a cut of that insurance money.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So they arrest him.
- 16:36Speaker 2: They do. In 1989, Thomas Randolph goes on trial in
- 16:40Speaker 2: Utah for Becky's murder.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And what happens?
- 16:43Speaker 2: He is acquitted by a jury.
- 16:46Speaker 1: He beats the charge.
- 16:47Speaker 2: He was found not guilty. But, and this is a
- 16:50Speaker 2: massive but, while he was awaiting that trial, he pleaded
- 16:55Speaker 2: guilty to witness tampering.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Wait, what did he do?
- 16:58Speaker 2: He offered an undercover officer money to kill Eric D'Arentino.
- 17:02Speaker 1: He tried to put a hit on the star witness.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Exactly. He served 18 months for it, and the conviction
- 17:08Speaker 2: was later expunged.
- 17:10Speaker 1: That is just, I mean, it's like a criminal beta test.
- 17:14Speaker 2: A beta test.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Yeah. He runs the program in 1986, right? But he
- 17:19Speaker 1: finds a massive bug in the system. The hitman survives.
- 17:23Speaker 1: So he patches the bug in the 2008 version with
- 17:25Speaker 1: Michael Miller.
- 17:26Speaker 2: By making sure the hitman doesn't walk out of the
- 17:29Speaker 2: house alive. That is exactly Dan Slepian in the prosecution's theory.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Randolph learned a massive operational lesson from the Utah acquittal.
- 17:37Speaker 1: But how does a man try to hire a hitman
- 17:39Speaker 1: to kill a witness, serve time, and then just go
- 17:43Speaker 1: right back to buying life insurance on future wives?
- 17:46Speaker 2: This raises an important question about the legal weight of
- 17:49Speaker 2: an acquittal. In the eyes of the law, Randolph was
- 17:51Speaker 2: entirely innocent of Becky's murder.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Because he was acquitted.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Right. But the methodology that Tarantino described matches the 2008
- 17:59Speaker 2: Vegas incident perfectly.
- 18:01Speaker 1: So fast forward to 2017 in Las Vegas. The prosecutors
- 18:06Speaker 1: look at the 2008 crime scene and they look at
- 18:08Speaker 1: the 1986 Utah case and they say this is the
- 18:12Speaker 1: exact same crime.
- 18:14Speaker 2: But legally telling a new jury about an old, acquitted
- 18:17Speaker 2: case is a massive, highly precarious gamble.
- 18:21Speaker 1: So what happened to the 2017 trial? Does the judge
- 18:24Speaker 1: let them talk about it?
- 18:25Speaker 2: After nine years of delays, yes. The judge allows the
- 18:28Speaker 2: Utah story in. Eric Tarantino testifies. Kathy testifies. Gayna and
- 18:33Speaker 2: Morrison testify.
- 18:35Speaker 1: The floodgates open.
- 18:36Speaker 2: They completely open. And the result? The jury convicts Randolph
- 18:40Speaker 2: of conspiracy and two counts of first-degree murder.
- 18:43Speaker 1: And he's sentenced to death. Yes.
- 18:46Speaker 2: And we have to note a surreal moment here. During
- 18:49Speaker 2: the penalty phase, when they are deciding on life or death,
- 18:52Speaker 2: Randolph actually asks his lawyers if he can wear a
- 18:54Speaker 2: Tony Romo Dallas Cowboys jersey.
- 18:57Speaker 1: A football jersey to a death penalty hearing. Yes. See,
- 19:01Speaker 1: that right there reveals exactly how he views this. It's
- 19:04Speaker 1: a sporting event to him. It's theatrical performance.
- 19:07Speaker 2: It truly is. But here is the major pivot. In 2020,
- 19:11Speaker 2: the Nevada Supreme Court unanimously overturns the conviction and the
- 19:16Speaker 2: death sentence.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Wait, really? Why?
- 19:18Speaker 2: Because of the American legal philosophy regarding prior bad act evidence.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for me. If I'm a juror
- 19:26Speaker 1: and I hear this guy has done this exact insurance
- 19:29Speaker 1: hitman routine before, I want to know that. It seems
- 19:32Speaker 1: crazy to hide it.
- 19:33Speaker 2: I understand the frustration. But if we connect this to
- 19:36Speaker 2: the bigger picture, the law says prior bad acts can
- 19:39Speaker 2: only be used to show motive, intent, or a specific plan.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Okay.
- 19:44Speaker 2: They cannot be used to prove a defendant is just
- 19:46Speaker 2: the kind of person who commits crimes. That's called propensity.
- 19:50Speaker 1: So the Supreme Court thought the prosecution crossed the line.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Yes. They ruled the state essentially lured the jury into
- 19:57Speaker 2: a verdict based on myriad other bad acts that heavily
- 20:00Speaker 2: prejudiced them against Randolph.
- 20:02Speaker 1: So they convicted him on his character, not the facts
- 20:05Speaker 1: of 2008. Precisely.
- 20:07Speaker 2: American trial law fiercely distrusts patterns in this way. An
- 20:10Speaker 2: acquittal is not a conviction in waiting. If we convict
- 20:13Speaker 2: people based on past atmosphere, the presumption of innocence dies.
- 20:18Speaker 2: It's a frustrating but completely essential safeguard of justice.
- 20:22Speaker 1: OK, I get it. So the state loses its death
- 20:25Speaker 1: sentence and they lose their star witnesses from the past.
- 20:29Speaker 1: For the retrial, they are forced into a corner.
- 20:32Speaker 2: A very tight corner.
- 20:33Speaker 1: They have to prove a double homicide using nothing but
- 20:36Speaker 1: the events of May 8, 2008.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Which brings us to the August 2023 retrial. No Utah evidence.
- 20:44Speaker 2: No Tarantino.
- 20:45Speaker 1: How does the defense play at this time?
- 20:47Speaker 2: They lean heavily on the idea that Miller acted alone
- 20:50Speaker 2: as a burglar and Randolph shot him in fear. They
- 20:53Speaker 2: build their case on the fact that there is no
- 20:54Speaker 2: living witness to a solicitation.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But the prosecution still has Detective Dino Kelly.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Exactly. O'Kelley essentially walks the jury through the physical evidence.
- 21:04Speaker 2: The house testifies.
- 21:07Speaker 1: The spotless mask.
- 21:08Speaker 2: The spotless mask, the missing casings in the hallway, the
- 21:11Speaker 2: neighbor's clock proving the 11-minute gap.
- 21:14Speaker 1: And the 300 phone calls. Don't forget the phone calls
- 21:16Speaker 1: and the $ 300, 000 to $ 400, 000 in life insurance policies.
- 21:20Speaker 2: He lays it all out meticulously. And the result? After
- 21:24Speaker 2: just four hours of deliberation, the jury finds him guilty again.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Four hours.
- 21:31Speaker 2: In April 2024, he is sentenced to 60 years to life.
- 21:35Speaker 2: He still maintains his innocence, of course.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Of course. And what about his appeals?
- 21:40Speaker 2: In August 2026, his appeal was rejected. He claimed speedy
- 21:44Speaker 2: trial violations and coercion during his walkthrough, but it failed.
- 21:48Speaker 1: You know, there is this poetic justice to the second trial.
- 21:51Speaker 2: How so?
- 21:51Speaker 1: Well, the Nevada Supreme Court inadvertently gave the state its
- 21:55Speaker 1: strongest validation by stripping away the camouflage of his past.
- 22:00Speaker 1: The second jury proved that the 2008 physical evidence was
- 22:03Speaker 1: robust enough to secure a conviction completely on its own merits.
- 22:07Speaker 2: That's a profound point. Dan Slepian's conclusion was that O'Callie's
- 22:10Speaker 2: meticulous crime scene analysis is the only reason Randolph isn't
- 22:14Speaker 2: walking free today.
- 22:16Speaker 1: It's amazing when you think about the passage of time.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Fifteen years from the crime to the final conviction.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Fifteen years.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Witnesses aged. Memories softened. Randolph actually escaped death row. The
- 22:28Speaker 1: system was battered. But it held.
- 22:31Speaker 2: It held because of the physical evidence. It proves the
- 22:34Speaker 2: value of forensics over character assassination. The house, the blood spatter,
- 22:38Speaker 2: the ballistics, the physical geometry became the ultimate unimpeachable witness.
- 22:43Speaker 1: So let's summarize the monumental journey from 1986 to 2026.
- 22:49Speaker 1: What's the current status as of October 2026?
- 22:51Speaker 2: Thomas Randolph is 71 years old. He is serving his
- 22:56Speaker 2: 60 years to life at Lovelock Correctional Center.
- 23:00Speaker 1: And Dan Slepian?
- 23:01Speaker 2: Slepian still talks to him on the phone. And Randolph
- 23:04Speaker 2: still claims innocence.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Unbelievable. You know, the documentary The Widower asks you to
- 23:10Speaker 1: sit with a man who invited the camera in because
- 23:13Speaker 1: he honestly thought he could win the room.
- 23:16Speaker 2: And he won a few rooms.
- 23:18Speaker 1: He did. But he lost the ones that actually mattered.
- 23:21Speaker 1: And before we go, I want to leave you, the listener,
- 23:23Speaker 1: with a brand new angle to ponder based entirely on
- 23:26Speaker 1: the text we've been analyzing.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Oh, this is a great point to bring up.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Think back to the Utah witness tampering charge. Randolph pleaded
- 23:33Speaker 1: guilty to offering money to kill Eric Tarantino. Right. He
- 23:37Speaker 1: served his 18 months.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 23:39Speaker 1: And then after a settlement, he had the conviction expunged.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Completely wiped from his record.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Now, consider how expungement is designed to give people a
- 23:48Speaker 1: second chance at life. It's supposed to be this redeeming
- 23:51Speaker 1: legal tool.
- 23:52Speaker 2: A fresh start.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Yeah. But in this case, the legal wiping of that specific,
- 23:57Speaker 1: highly relevant crime essentially gave a man who had literally
- 24:00Speaker 1: tried to hire a hitman a clean slate. It allowed
- 24:03Speaker 1: him to go on buying life insurance on future wives
- 24:06Speaker 1: without triggering systemic alarms.
- 24:08Speaker 2: It asks a really dark question, doesn't it?
- 24:11Speaker 1: It really does. When does the legal system's desire for
- 24:14Speaker 1: rehabilitation inadvertently aid in the creation of a predator's camouflage?
- 24:19Speaker 2: It's a haunting paradox to think about.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Mump. Thank you so much for joining us on this
- 24:24Speaker 1: deep dive. Stay curious, keep questioning the narratives around you,
- 24:28Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time.