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Credlin | 18 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peto Kranland live on Skyings Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up tonight. The CFU has worn today
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Speaker 2: that the Albanezy government has opened the gates of hell.
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Speaker 2: That's their phrase. For given it's only suspended the union,
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Speaker 2: it's not outlawed it. I don't know if that's right.
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Speaker 2: And of course Queensland, Queensland labor. They're still taking CFWU money.
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Speaker 2: They've got an election due in October. So let's say
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Speaker 2: this for what it is. A wet lettuce response from
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. Another blow to Bowen's green agenda, with
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Speaker 2: even Twiggy Forest now waking up to the reality that
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Speaker 2: green hydrogen production and the levels of the government wants
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Speaker 2: simply isn't feasible. He slashed seven hundred jobs as a result,
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Speaker 2: but without green hydrogen or Bowen's debt, zero Push is
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Speaker 2: in tatters. Last with a report set to vindicate Israel
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Speaker 2: after that tragic drone strike that killed an Australia An
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Speaker 2: AID worker, will the Prime Minister offer an apology after
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Speaker 2: coming out so strongly without knowing the facts and at
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Speaker 2: the time of course, shocking images two in Melbourne of
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Speaker 2: a Hamas flag being flown in the city. Senator James
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Speaker 2: Patterson on that in a moment, Plus another big day
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Speaker 2: at the RNC with JD. Vance addressing the party for
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Speaker 2: the first time since being announced as Donald Trump's running mate.
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Speaker 3: President Trump represents America's last best hope to restore what,
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Speaker 3: if lost, may never be found again, a country where
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Speaker 3: a working class boy born far from the halls of
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Speaker 3: power can stand on this stage as the next Vice
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Speaker 3: President of the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: I watched it all this morning. I watched that speech
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Speaker 2: in particular. I'll get you all the highlights. Will meet
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Speaker 2: cross to analyse in a moment. First, the rotten, crooked
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Speaker 2: CFMU that Labor, State and Federal wants you to think
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Speaker 2: that it has taken strong action against the same union,
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Speaker 2: of course, that bank rolls their political campaigns, that MP
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Speaker 2: after MP, including the Prime Minister who's left faction gets
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Speaker 2: their power from the CFEW. Of you say they knew
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Speaker 2: nothing about these serious allegations dating back years. Here are
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Speaker 2: just some of those claims again. CCTV footage of the
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Speaker 2: cfwu's Victorian boss John Seka delivering a threat to a
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Speaker 2: union rival Here is footage two of what's alleged to
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Speaker 2: be as CFMWU Heavy trying a bit of gentle persuasion
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Speaker 2: with a business that had an EBA with a different union.
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Speaker 2: And this re enactment too of a union insider explaining
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Speaker 2: how the union gets paid off first by the business
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Speaker 2: and then courtesy of the taxpayer. Again, no one in
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Speaker 2: labor leadership had any clue about this, or at least
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Speaker 2: that's what they want you to believe. Here's the workplace
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Speaker 2: relations Minister Tony Burke.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes additional evidence comes through the media. On this occasion,
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Speaker 4: the evidence about organized crime has come through the media.
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Speaker 4: I'm grateful that that's been exposed and that's why we're acting.
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Speaker 4: I think some of this goes to the nature of
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Speaker 4: organized crime. But this is something I had not been
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Speaker 4: previously briefed on and it is something that as I say,
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Speaker 4: not in terms of organized crime, the organized crime issue,
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Speaker 4: and I just go to it was published as an exclusive.
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Speaker 4: That's because this was new.
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Speaker 2: Information and the Prime Minister as well.
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Speaker 5: This occurred whilst they had the ABCC that they say
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Speaker 5: was a tough cop on the beat doing absolutely nothing
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Speaker 5: but worried about what flags were flying.
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Speaker 2: Now the idea that these insiders have been labor operative
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Speaker 2: since they were teenagers, knew nothing of the cfmu's alleged thuggery, intimidation,
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Speaker 2: kickbacks and organized crime links. It's about as believable as
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Speaker 2: the dog ate my homework. For more than thirty years,
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Speaker 2: John Sutton was a CFMU official until the allies of
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Speaker 2: John Setka forced him out in twenty ten. Yesterday in print,
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Speaker 2: he declared, people who turn a blind eye for long
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Speaker 2: enough become as big a problem as their plainly corrupt colleagues.
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Speaker 2: He says that the rod in the CFMU goes all
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Speaker 2: the way back to the nineteen eighties, whether then Federal
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Speaker 2: Labor Industrial Relations Minister wanted officials of the deregistered Builder's
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Speaker 2: Labourer's Federation the BLF, to come on to the books
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Speaker 2: of the CFMU. The result, says Sutton, was gangsters, corruption,
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Speaker 2: bitter infighting, bikey gang activity, criminal involvement, and the rise
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Speaker 2: in prominence of colorful identities like mcgado and Victoria and
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Speaker 2: George Elis Alex in New South Wales. Now, if an
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Speaker 2: ex commy like John Sutton can lay it all out
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Speaker 2: in the pages of the City Morning Herald, how dare
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Speaker 2: labor leaders try and tell us this is all entirely
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Speaker 2: new to them, especially given the fact that the first
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Speaker 2: act of the incoming alban Easy government led by Tony
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Speaker 2: Burke was to roll over to this crickal union and
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Speaker 2: abolish the Australian Building and Construction Commission that had launched
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Speaker 2: almost to one hundred prosecutions against the union and hit
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Speaker 2: them for close to sixteen million dollars in fines.
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Speaker 6: And we will also do through the abolition of the
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Speaker 6: discredited and politicized Registered Organizations Commission and the Australian Building
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Speaker 6: and Construction Commission.
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Speaker 5: We promised to abolish ABCCAY and it is gone.
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Speaker 2: If you want to get a sense of how important
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Speaker 2: this crooked union is to the wider Labor party, listen
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Speaker 2: to this. It's CFMU National secretary Christy Kine boasting last
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Speaker 2: year that it's his union that's put every single labor
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Speaker 2: government into office.
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Speaker 7: On the sun, Where did the money come from to
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Speaker 7: get them elected? Where did the people on the garden
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Speaker 7: come from? On the polar blunts, on the holes on
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Speaker 7: the sign theyve are on the sun? They're those where
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Speaker 7: common for them?
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Speaker 2: I'll say it all again, he says, Where did the
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Speaker 2: money come from to get them elected? That's a million
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Speaker 2: dollars a year the CFMU has paid labor in affiliation
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Speaker 2: fees alone. He then says, where did the people come from?
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Speaker 2: That's the hundreds of CFMU officials and delegates who run
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Speaker 2: labor branches and the polling booths. And then here's the threat.
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Speaker 2: If they're not going to deliver for us, we're coming
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Speaker 2: from them, because, says the former head of the CFMU,
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Speaker 2: we put them there. That's why it's impossible to take
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Speaker 2: seriously the government's claims that finally they're cleaning up this stinking,
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Speaker 2: rotten mess. It's more than telling, isn't it that Labours
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Speaker 2: put a temporary ban on accepting donations from the CFMU
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Speaker 2: everywhere but Queensland because that's where the next election is.
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Speaker 2: NA sure, our administrator has been appointed, but the same
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Speaker 2: enterprise agreements giving extortionate training fees to the union and
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Speaker 2: mandating employer funded union site reps and insisting upon largely
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Speaker 2: unnecessary extras on the payroll. Allegedly, they say for safety,
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Speaker 2: all the measures that contribute to building costs at least
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Speaker 2: eighty percent more expensive than they should be. In Australia
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Speaker 2: than overseas. All of that will remain in place. And
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Speaker 2: of course, once the media has moved on the same
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Speaker 2: characters who have bullied and cheated their way into union
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Speaker 2: office and manipulated labor governments, they'll all be back stronger
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Speaker 2: than ever. As John Sutton says, the old BLF moved
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Speaker 2: into the CFMAU. Now, does anyone think that Anthony Albaneze
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Speaker 2: is smart enough and tough enough to deal with the
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Speaker 2: union that even Bob Hawk could not clean up? I
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Speaker 2: think we all know the answer to that one, and
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Speaker 2: it goes a long way to explaining why we've got
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Speaker 2: a housing crisis in this country and an infrastructure bill
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Speaker 2: that's sending states like Victoria broke.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: It's got to Camber Now for the headlines. Sky News
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Speaker 2: political reporter Olivia Caysley Good Evening. Former Defense Chief Mark
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Speaker 2: Binskin's independent review into the killing of an Australian aid
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Speaker 2: worker is expected to largely back Israel's explanation. Zomi Frankum,
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Speaker 2: a humanitarian worker, was among seven killed in drone strikes
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Speaker 2: carried out by the Israeli Defense forcing GAZA on April one.
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Speaker 2: Israel issued a formal apology in the wake of the incident,
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Speaker 2: saying the night attack on three World Central Kitchen vehicles
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Speaker 2: was a major mistake and the result of a misidentification
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Speaker 2: by drone operators. Those involved were either sacked or reprimanded
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Speaker 2: in the aftermath. Both the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister
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Speaker 2: called for full accountability. The reporters expected to be released
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Speaker 2: publicly within weeks, no doubt a difficult time for Zomi's
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Speaker 2: friends and family. Anthony Alberanzi has been accused of taking
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Speaker 2: the weakest possible option when it comes to allegations against
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Speaker 2: the CFMEU. It comes as the ALP National Executive move
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Speaker 2: to suspend the cfmeu's Construction division's affiliation to the new SOI, Wales, Victoria,
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Speaker 2: South Australia and Tasmanian branches. The federal government says it's
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Speaker 2: committed to stamping out criminal activity and thuggery within the
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Speaker 2: embattled union.
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Speaker 5: What we want to do is make sure that any
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Speaker 5: corrupt officials are removed. That is the strong action that's required.
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Speaker 2: But individuals profiteering out of that, people being able to
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Speaker 2: use a system or trying to use a system, which
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Speaker 2: these allegations are about, so they're owing gain and profit.
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Speaker 2: There's no place for that in our movement.
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Speaker 8: Australia's jobless rate has lifted to four point one percent,
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Speaker 8: despite the economy adding fifty thousand new jobs. It's one
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Speaker 8: of the measures the Reserve Bank will weigh up when
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Speaker 8: it next meets on August six to set the cash rate.
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Speaker 8: It's trying to guide inflation towards the middle of its
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Speaker 8: two to three percent target by mid twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's have a look at those headlines now
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Speaker 2: with my panel Media write for The Australian, Sophie Ellsworth,
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Speaker 2: the Deputy executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs,
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Speaker 2: Daniel Wilde, Well, welcome to you both. A fall out
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Speaker 2: of court from the CFMU exposure expose a continues. We
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Speaker 2: know Victorian and New South Wales labor or they have
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Speaker 2: we're told suspended donations. But the New South Wales acting
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Speaker 2: opposition leader Damien Tudor hope he's got one further. He
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Speaker 2: says the New South Wales government needs to donate all
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Speaker 2: the CFMU funds it has to charity. The Premier Chrismins
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Speaker 2: today said, oh well, I can't give them money to charity.
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Speaker 2: We've spent it all, and of course we learn like
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Speaker 2: this afternoon that Queensland is a carve out of all
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Speaker 2: of this stuff. Anyway, they're going to keep taking the money, Sophie,
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Speaker 2: this is where we know this is just a media whitewash.
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Speaker 2: This is just until you and Daniel and me and
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Speaker 2: others stop talking about the CFMU and then they're back
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Speaker 2: in business. Well isn't that convenient, Peter?
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Speaker 9: With an election in October that they've taken this approach,
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Speaker 9: and it shows that it's not real. If they're going
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Speaker 9: to be serious about this, they should stop donations everywhere
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Speaker 9: and not just say, oh, in Queensland we're going to
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Speaker 9: carry on. So I think it shows the fast that is.
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Speaker 9: And yes, the hope that the media cycle will find
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Speaker 9: another issue, stick to that and forget about this, And
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Speaker 9: that's what I think they will really be hoping happens.
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Speaker 2: That's got a Labour's primary vote in Victoria polling out
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Speaker 2: today Resolve Polling. It has sunk Labour's poll numbers to
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Speaker 2: their lowest levels in years. The Labour's down one point
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Speaker 2: twenty seven percent. This is in primary vote terms. That's
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Speaker 2: a twelve point drop in support since the change from
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Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews to sint to Allen about ten months ago. Concerningly, though, Daniel,
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Speaker 2: I have to say, there's not a concominant increase for
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Speaker 2: the Victorian Libs. We know when we're looking federally, when
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Speaker 2: labor has fallen Peter Dutton and the Liberals have risen,
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Speaker 2: not so much in Victoria. And of course you know
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Speaker 2: the walk you away from labor voters down here, but
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Speaker 2: they're not walking towards John Perzuito.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right. The coalition has to win labor voters
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Speaker 1: to form government. You would know better than anyone else
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Speaker 1: that you've got to do two things. You've got to
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Speaker 1: point out why this government is bad and why you
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Speaker 1: would be better as government. Now the Victorian government's doing
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Speaker 1: a perfectly good job of doing that all by themselves
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Speaker 1: on the first task. But the second task, they need
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Speaker 1: to have a clear policy agenda as to why Victorians
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Speaker 1: will be better off under a coalition government. I think
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Speaker 1: there's four key areas they need to focus on. They
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Speaker 1: need to start building more homes because we've got low
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Speaker 1: approvals record migration. They've got to fix the budget because
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Speaker 1: debt is out of control. They've got to end the
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Speaker 1: roots on the big public projects, infrastructure projects, and they've
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Speaker 1: got to cut the energy bills, so stop net zero,
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Speaker 1: get the gas, and call back online. I think those
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Speaker 1: are four very sensible policy areas that would appeal to
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Speaker 1: most Victorians. But for whatever reason, so far, the Victorian
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Speaker 1: Coalition hasn't been willing to put the fight out there
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Speaker 1: and take on the government.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those shoes that we've talked about, there's
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Speaker 2: not a cigarette paper between them and labor.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, particularly on energy, and I just don't
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Speaker 1: really understand this. There's been this idea that you've got
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Speaker 1: to go further to the left of the Favor party
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Speaker 1: in order to win voters. But they're voting green. You
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Speaker 1: just saw the numbers there the Green voters that are
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Speaker 1: record high. You're not ringing green voters by trying to
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Speaker 1: out green labor. You need to talk to mainstream Victorians
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Speaker 1: that have been left behind by this very bad government
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Speaker 1: over the past ten years.
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Speaker 2: Well even twenty Forrest has left the Green dream behind.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in the moment too. Hey at
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Speaker 2: Queensland too, no surprises up there. There's been three point
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Speaker 2: seven billion dollars worth of goodies handed out to win
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Speaker 2: voters over come October. It's not working though. The Latters
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Speaker 2: you Got you guv pole published by The Courier Mail,
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Speaker 2: shows the primary vote support for the Marth governments plummeted
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Speaker 2: to twenty six percent. That's the lowest level of support
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Speaker 2: for Labor and Queensland in one hundred and thirty one
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Speaker 2: years and two party preferred terms. David Christophooley's LNP is
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Speaker 2: well clear of Labor fifty seven forty three. But as
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Speaker 2: I said, they're still going to take the CEAFBUU money
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Speaker 2: because they're pretty desperate. Labor and queens are, aren't they?
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Speaker 2: They are desperate, Peter.
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Speaker 9: I mean they've been handing out these goodies, discounted public
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Speaker 9: transport faares and it's fifty cents exactly.
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Speaker 2: It's basically non existence.
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Speaker 9: It's pretty much free now, you know, discounted car registration,
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Speaker 9: you know, various incentives. And so people are seeing through
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Speaker 9: this and I think the Labor government's been in so
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Speaker 9: long empower their people are sick of them, and they
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Speaker 9: seem to be from what the polls are showing, they
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Speaker 9: want change. And I also find is Stephen Miles is
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Speaker 9: very polarizing a lot of people disliking.
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Speaker 2: The poll showed.
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Speaker 9: Today and just interestingly the Courier Mail had a poll
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Speaker 9: on who they prefer as premier and this evening had
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Speaker 9: fifteen thousand votes and eighty seven percent were in favor
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Speaker 9: of Chruso Fuley and thirteen percent Stephen Miles.
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Speaker 2: Well, fifteen thousand's a big sample, that would be well,
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Speaker 2: that's standing for labor. Well, let's go to can before
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Speaker 2: we can. The Greens there are shaking their economic fist.
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Speaker 2: If they have an economic fist, I suppose it's a tautology.
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Speaker 2: If they want the government if there is a rate
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Speaker 2: increase next month, they want the government to step in
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Speaker 2: and reverse it. That's a big deal, as you know,
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Speaker 2: in terms of the independence of the Reserve Bank. They
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Speaker 2: also say at the next election they want a super
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Speaker 2: profits tax on corporate Australia. They're not going to support
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Speaker 2: any cuts to the NDIS, they won't rain in the
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Speaker 2: ruts and they also want to significantly increase the doble.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is loonar economics, and even just on the RBA,
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Speaker 1: it's not a perfect institution, but you look back to
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Speaker 1: when it was independent and could set its own rates.
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Speaker 1: Inflation has been very stable for a long period of time,
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Speaker 1: and that is critical because if inflation's going up down
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Speaker 1: left and right, and decisions are being made for political reasons,
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Speaker 1: you can't have confidence in the future because every time
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Speaker 1: a new government comes in, you're going to have a
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Speaker 1: different economic rationale for changing rates and that'll affect the
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Speaker 1: entire economy. So their broader economic plan can't be taken seriously.
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Speaker 1: But what worries me, and this is a test for
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Speaker 1: Albinizi and Labor. They're probably going to have to form
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Speaker 1: with the Greens. Does Albernezi think this is a good idea?
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Speaker 1: Does he believe in the super profit's tax? Does he
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Speaker 1: believe in the politicization of the RBA. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't said much on the economic future of the country,
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to be watching very closely how Alberanzi
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Speaker 1: handles these ideas from the Greens.
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Speaker 2: Look, you're really right to make that point. A lot
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Speaker 2: of people dismiss the Greens and they go, Okay, they're
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Speaker 2: not a main party that'll ever form government, but they
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Speaker 2: can be highly influential. We saw that with Gillard's deal
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Speaker 2: in twenty ten. We saw where that hung parliament went
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Speaker 2: over that period of time and if you look at
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Speaker 2: the poles now consistently on trend, it could be the
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Speaker 2: Greens holding the cards for the alben Easy government to
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Speaker 2: stay in power.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, and I think the Greens, mostly for worse,
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Speaker 1: have been probably the most effective political force in Australia
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Speaker 1: now for a number of years. This is not your
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Speaker 1: grandmother's Greens. It's not the Greens of Bob Brown. And
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Speaker 1: I have my disagreements with Bob Brown, but Elisi he's
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Speaker 1: a genuine environmentalist who believed in doing the right thing
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Speaker 1: by the environment. But this is very extreme on economic
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Speaker 1: and sta social matters and they're very different to what
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Speaker 1: they were just a generation to go.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Linda Reynolds. She's had a bit of
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Speaker 2: a victory in that defamation action against Britney Higgins. The
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Speaker 2: Wsupreme Court has ruled that Higgins must reveal the trustee
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Speaker 2: responsible for administering her two point four million dollar Commonwealth payout.
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Speaker 2: Up until now, Sophie, this taxpayer payout has been shrouded
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Speaker 2: in secrecy. What do you think we're going to learn now?
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Speaker 9: Well, this is interesting because she's had a small win
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Speaker 9: here to find out information about the trustee in relation
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Speaker 9: to the two point four million dollar payout that Britney
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Speaker 9: Higgins received. And I think it puts her in good
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Speaker 9: shape ahead of the defamation trial next month, because Linda
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Speaker 9: Reynolds is showing that she's not backing down on us.
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Speaker 2: You know, Brittney Higgins is now.
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Speaker 9: Living in France. She's living what appears to be quite
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Speaker 9: a luxurious lifestyle. You know, she parades it on social media.
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Speaker 9: She's just got married, she's announced she's having a baby.
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Speaker 9: But now she has this court case to deal with
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Speaker 9: because she is not really apologized to Linda Reynolds sufficiently
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Speaker 9: to Linda Reynolds's satisfaction.
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Speaker 2: What's this w with interest? Thank you both. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Let's now move to the revelations that the Albanezer government
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Speaker 2: might be forced to apologize to the Israeli Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: Benjamin Netan Yahoo. Now you will recall the Israeli drone
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Speaker 2: strike that killed the Australian aid worker several months ago
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Speaker 2: and the funeral that followed. We've learned today that former
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Speaker 2: Defense Chief Mark Binskin, who was commissioned by the government
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Speaker 2: to investigate the strike, is set to release a report
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Speaker 2: that were largely back Israel's official response to the tragedy.
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Speaker 2: For more of this, let's bring in now our Shadow
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Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister James Patterson will send ittor welcome. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if this report is as we're led to believe, of
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Speaker 2: vindication of the RDF, surely our Prime Minister owes the
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Speaker 2: Israeli government an apology. I think that's essentially right.
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Speaker 10: When the Prime Minister announced the Binsket inquiry, he made
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Speaker 10: two claims effectively. One is Israel cannot be trusted to
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Speaker 10: conduct its own investigation, so much so that we're going
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Speaker 10: to have to appoint our own investigator. And two that
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Speaker 10: Israel might try and obstruct that investigation, which is why
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Speaker 10: he had to personally demand to Prime Minister at Yahoo
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Speaker 10: that we get access and then disclose that publicly. Now
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Speaker 10: both of those things appear to be contradicted by that report.
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Speaker 10: It appears to agree with the IDF's assessment about its
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Speaker 10: own failings that caused this tragedy, and it appears to
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Speaker 10: be out of occurred without any obstruction. And so those
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Speaker 10: two pretty grievous attacks on a friend and ally the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister made have blown up
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Speaker 10: in the Prime Minster's face and I think you should apologize.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of these worrying images revealed this
20:50
Speaker 2: morning by Tom Elliott on Radio three A w that
20:54
Speaker 2: show a Hummas flag being flown in the Fitzroy Gardens
20:57
Speaker 2: here in Melbourne. And at the same time we've got
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Speaker 2: an image of Lydia Thorpe wearing a Hamas style headband.
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Speaker 2: I mean this is a designated terror organization. Where's the
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Speaker 2: police response?
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Speaker 10: Well, exactly right, Peter. In December last year, the Parliament
21:15
Speaker 10: unanimously passed amendments to the Criminal Code in a hate
21:20
Speaker 10: speech a hate symbols legislation which made an offense for
21:23
Speaker 10: the first time to publicly display either Nazi symbols or
21:27
Speaker 10: symbols of a listed terrorist organization like Kamas, and included
21:31
Speaker 10: in that legislation was a provision that anything that resembles
21:34
Speaker 10: the logos or symbols of a terrorist organization was also captured.
21:38
Speaker 10: So we have had now for many months on our
21:41
Speaker 10: streets Hamas logos and even the logos and memorabilia of
21:45
Speaker 10: the Al Casan Brigades of Hamas, which is its militant wing,
21:48
Speaker 10: being sold on the streets of Melbourne at stalls and
21:52
Speaker 10: warn publicly on those streets. So where have the police been?
21:55
Speaker 10: Where have the charges been? Now, some of these activists
21:58
Speaker 10: think they're being clever. They have redesign the logo to
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Speaker 10: say in Arabic, but I love chocolate milk instead of
22:04
Speaker 10: saying the messages of mass But as the legislation makes clear,
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Speaker 10: it is like confirmed with the AFP and Senate estimates recently,
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Speaker 10: that is no defense that is captured by the resemblance
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Speaker 10: provisions of the legislation, and they should be charged with
22:17
Speaker 10: these crimes.
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Speaker 2: Where's the minister, James Patterson? Are you going to pursue
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Speaker 2: this when you're back in Canberra?
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Speaker 10: We sure will. Where is the Attorney General? Where is
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Speaker 10: the Minister for Home Affairs? Why hasn't the AFP taken
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Speaker 10: the action that they should have under the law, which
22:34
Speaker 10: is very clear, because when a law is failed to
22:36
Speaker 10: be enforced, it becomes a joke and people are openly
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Speaker 10: flatting this law. And it is designed, of course, this
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Speaker 10: behavior to intimidate the Jewish community, and I'm sorry to
22:45
Speaker 10: say it's working. Jewish victorians have told me they don't
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Speaker 10: feel safe in our city on the weekends when they
22:50
Speaker 10: see understandably Hummus' logos being displayed.
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Speaker 2: I might mention the two labor ministers you refer to there,
22:58
Speaker 2: the AG and the Home Affairs Minister, are both based
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne, so these can't have escaped their knowledge. James,
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Speaker 2: I know you've just come back from a security conference
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Speaker 2: in the US. What do you make of all these
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Speaker 2: revelations We're getting more and more every day about the
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Speaker 2: security breakdown that led to the attempted assassination of Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump on the weekend, and in particular these scenes today
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Speaker 2: from the R and C conference where where angry US
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Speaker 2: senators confronted the head of the Secret Service.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen, this is exactly what we were doing today.
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Speaker 11: You are accent.
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Speaker 2: You are President Trump, James Patterson, Peter.
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Speaker 10: There will be appropriate official inquiries in due course, of course,
23:46
Speaker 10: but it is already clear from what's on the public
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Speaker 10: record that this was a major security failure. That's failure
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Speaker 10: to secure the area around the president and the failure
23:55
Speaker 10: to apprehend someone who's behaving suspiciously around the former president
23:59
Speaker 10: is straordinary and worrying. Because the consequences have this Shue
24:03
Speaker 10: have been more accurate are almost unthinkable to contemplate. For
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Speaker 10: American democracy and for all of us who care about it.
24:10
Speaker 10: And so it is critical that the United States get
24:12
Speaker 10: on top of this and the Secret Service get on
24:14
Speaker 10: top of this, as it is equally critical for us
24:17
Speaker 10: to make sure that we are better prepared to make
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Speaker 10: sure that nothing like this ever happens in our country
24:21
Speaker 10: either because we are not immune.
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Speaker 2: QUD mcgreen, Moore, James Patterson, thank you, half the break
24:28
Speaker 2: the latest from the US. The JD. Dance Deliberty's first
24:31
Speaker 2: speech is Trump's VP pick plus to reality check the
24:35
Speaker 2: labor as ford Escu scales back it's green hydrogen push,
24:39
Speaker 2: leaving Chris Boa and up the net zero Creek without
24:42
Speaker 2: a paddle. Welcome MAXX. Still to come, another blow to
24:49
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen's a green agenda with ford Escu scaling back
24:53
Speaker 2: it's green hydrogen plans. But first day three the Republican
24:57
Speaker 2: National Conventions wrapped up the ultimate day before the much
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Speaker 2: anticipated speech by the former President Donald Trump tomorrow plenty
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Speaker 2: to get across. So I was able to catch up
25:08
Speaker 2: with our Washington correspondent Adalise Nielsen earlier and thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining us. Let's start with that big set speech today
25:16
Speaker 2: from j D. Vans plenty of political lines in it,
25:20
Speaker 2: but also some very personal insights into his humble backstory.
25:25
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of what he had to say
25:27
Speaker 2: about his grandmother, Mehma. He called her certainly a colorful person.
25:32
Speaker 2: It would seem have a listen.
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Speaker 3: In my life, I had a guardian angel by my side.
25:37
Speaker 3: She was an old woman who could barely walk, but
25:40
Speaker 3: she was tough as nails. I called her Mamma, the
25:44
Speaker 3: name we Hillbillies gave to our grandmother's excuse me, memo
25:48
Speaker 3: raised me as my mother struggled with addiction. Ma'am all
25:52
Speaker 3: was in so many ways a woman of contradiction. She
25:55
Speaker 3: loved the Lord, but she also loved the F word.
25:58
Speaker 3: She once told me, when she found out that I
26:00
Speaker 3: was spending too much time with a local kid who
26:02
Speaker 3: was known for dealing drugs, that if I ever hung
26:05
Speaker 3: out with that kid again, she would run him over
26:08
Speaker 3: with her car.
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Speaker 2: And then he spoke about his mother, a drug addict
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Speaker 2: for most of his life.
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Speaker 3: Our movement is about single moms like mine who struggled
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Speaker 3: with money and addiction but never gave up. And I'm
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Speaker 3: proud to say that tonight my mom is here, ten
26:27
Speaker 3: years clean and sober. I love your mom. It'll be
26:32
Speaker 3: ten years officially in January of twenty twenty five, and
26:36
Speaker 3: if President Trump's okay with it, let's have the celebration
26:39
Speaker 3: in the White House.
26:46
Speaker 2: Well, Anelte's what did you make if he's a first
26:48
Speaker 2: big entry into this campaign.
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Speaker 11: Look, just being in the room, it really resonated with
26:54
Speaker 11: people here. You could see that kind of natural charisma
26:56
Speaker 11: and it almost reminded me of when Barack Obama kind
26:59
Speaker 11: of onto the stage saying yes we can. It had
27:02
Speaker 11: that real tone of optimism which is so important for campaigns,
27:07
Speaker 11: but that personal story about coming from such tough times,
27:12
Speaker 11: coming from nothing and making his way through to Yale
27:15
Speaker 11: Law School, choosing to serve in the Marines after nine
27:18
Speaker 11: to eleven, meeting his wife who gave a really beautiful
27:21
Speaker 11: entrance entry speech for him before he spoke today. It
27:25
Speaker 11: will resonate with people because they do like to like
27:28
Speaker 11: their leaders. And what we also saw was the mother
27:31
Speaker 11: in the crowd getting hugged by speaker Johnson, third in
27:34
Speaker 11: lin to the presidency and a former drug addict. And
27:38
Speaker 11: drugs it's a real topic of conversation at the moment,
27:41
Speaker 11: especially for Republicans as they talk about the functional crisis
27:44
Speaker 11: and how that's been exacerbated by what's been happening at
27:47
Speaker 11: the southern border with the transfer of drugs into the country.
27:50
Speaker 11: There's a lot of sympathy for this topic, and I
27:52
Speaker 11: know that from talking to people around the country who've
27:55
Speaker 11: been touched by ventional by the crisis. They are real
27:59
Speaker 11: victim and anyone who knows someone who's had a drug
28:03
Speaker 11: addiction knows how much it can tear families apart. So
28:05
Speaker 11: to see that triumph the mum back Malthing on the
28:08
Speaker 11: screen in the middle of the stadium, that's my boy
28:11
Speaker 11: as he gets ready to take on potentially the vice
28:14
Speaker 11: presidency at thirty nine is very impressive. It shows that
28:18
Speaker 11: kind of real American dream if you can come from
28:20
Speaker 11: nothing and go anywhere, if you're ambitious and you work
28:22
Speaker 11: hard enough.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
28:23
Speaker 2: Well, clearly he's very clever, and that came across not
28:26
Speaker 2: only with the personal stuff we've talked about, but the
28:29
Speaker 2: policy depth in that speech. Quite a bit on trade,
28:33
Speaker 2: quite a bit on economics. And he's got some union
28:35
Speaker 2: support too, hasn't.
28:36
Speaker 11: He He does, And that's really interesting in this entire
28:40
Speaker 11: race when we're talking about the teamster's union being so
28:43
Speaker 11: the president of it being so positive about JD. Vance
28:46
Speaker 11: and still not endorsing Joe Biden when he's so reliant
28:49
Speaker 11: on union endorsements. That shows that there is that kind
28:53
Speaker 11: of move in the protectionist trade space that they feel
28:56
Speaker 11: comfortable going to the Republican side of the ledger if
28:59
Speaker 11: they feel like they're going to get those tariff protections
29:02
Speaker 11: that Donald Trump's promised, if they're going to get manufacturing
29:04
Speaker 11: brought back to the United States, and in priest in
29:07
Speaker 11: these areas like Ohio, like Michigan, key swing states that
29:10
Speaker 11: they need to win if they're going to win the presidency.
29:14
Speaker 11: That is critical in this calculus. And JD. Vance I
29:17
Speaker 11: know from people who've worked with him on a Capitol hill,
29:19
Speaker 11: he's known for being someone who's happy to meet with
29:22
Speaker 11: people across the aisle. He's smart, he gets down into
29:25
Speaker 11: the details of policy, and it shows when he's in
29:29
Speaker 11: these kind of environments that he's got that nuance of
29:31
Speaker 11: policy to play with, and it shows that he's going
29:34
Speaker 11: to be a tough contender in the vice president debate
29:36
Speaker 11: against Kamala Harris.
29:37
Speaker 2: There was also a lot of color movement in day three.
29:40
Speaker 2: We've got Donald Trump speaking, of course tomorrow On the
29:43
Speaker 2: final day, we heard from Donald Trump Junior, a d
29:47
Speaker 2: day veteran, gold Star families and one of Trump's own
29:52
Speaker 2: granddaughters have a listen.
29:54
Speaker 8: He always encourages me to push myself to be the
29:57
Speaker 8: most successful person I can be.
30:00
Speaker 2: Obviously, he sets the bar pretty high.
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Speaker 13: My daughter La Sergeant Nicole Leanne Gee, and she was
30:10
Speaker 13: killed at Abby Gate in Afghanistan. While Joe Biden has
30:14
Speaker 13: refused to recognize their sacrifice, Donald Trump spent six hours
30:22
Speaker 13: in Bedminster with us.
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Speaker 2: It was a day of powerful personal stories. At least
30:26
Speaker 2: what were the highlights for you?
30:28
Speaker 11: I think the highlights in the room just gauging the
30:30
Speaker 11: audience reaction. It was the gold Star families, the family
30:34
Speaker 11: members who lost servicemen and women in the withdrawal from Afghanistan,
30:39
Speaker 11: and they were speaking about the fact that it was
30:42
Speaker 11: such a devastating loss for them, that they were horrified
30:45
Speaker 11: by how the withdrawal from Afghanistan played out, and that
30:48
Speaker 11: resonated with a lot of people in the room. And
30:50
Speaker 11: what they were saying was that they haven't had any
30:53
Speaker 11: contact from the White House since then, but Donald Trump
30:56
Speaker 11: has met with them, including one family saying that he
30:58
Speaker 11: went and visited with them in Bedminster for six hours,
31:01
Speaker 11: which I didn't know until today. That's quite extraordinary amount
31:04
Speaker 11: of time, even for a former president who's out of office.
31:08
Speaker 11: So it really resonated with the crowd here. They made
31:11
Speaker 11: a point of reading out the names of every single
31:14
Speaker 11: person who died in the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and everyone
31:16
Speaker 11: in the room repeated it, and it sounded almost like
31:19
Speaker 11: a religious ceremony. And there is that depth of feeling
31:22
Speaker 11: about how badly that went and how much they don't
31:24
Speaker 11: want to be involved in these international conflicts that cost
31:27
Speaker 11: American lives.
31:28
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Joe Biden, because there's more
31:30
Speaker 2: trouble for his campaign. The highest ranking Democrat in the Congress,
31:34
Speaker 2: the Senate Majority Leader, Chuck Schumer. Well, he's reportedly told
31:38
Speaker 2: Joe Biden in a meeting face to face on Saturday
31:42
Speaker 2: that he needs to end his re election bed in
31:44
Speaker 2: just weeks, of course, before the president is said to
31:47
Speaker 2: be formally nominated. This is really significant, isn't it. Look
31:51
Speaker 2: it is.
31:53
Speaker 11: We've also heard that Nancy Pelosi's been in contact with
31:55
Speaker 11: Joe Biden, and it does just seem like it's edging
31:58
Speaker 11: day by day that they're kind of hammering the case
32:00
Speaker 11: with him behind the scenes, because he's not picking up
32:03
Speaker 11: that this is just going to be an untenable situation.
32:06
Speaker 11: He seems completely defiant when you speak, when you hear
32:09
Speaker 11: his interviews, there's different excuses from his part about why
32:14
Speaker 11: things aren't going well. He's blamed the media at one
32:16
Speaker 11: point at a rally in Michigan, He's talked about having
32:20
Speaker 11: that cold when he's in the debate, and then afterwards
32:23
Speaker 11: he said, look, I'm getting older, but I'm fine. I'm
32:25
Speaker 11: the only one that can beat Donald Trump. And he
32:27
Speaker 11: seems just so convinced of that. It's hard to know
32:29
Speaker 11: at this point whether they should be lobbying Joe Biden
32:31
Speaker 11: or Jill Biden, because she seems to be the one
32:33
Speaker 11: in his ear saying you've got this, you got to
32:35
Speaker 11: stick with it.
32:36
Speaker 2: We've heard Joe Biden's got COVID. Today, of course they
32:40
Speaker 2: will take him off the campaign trail. Now I'm not
32:43
Speaker 2: disputing he's got COVID, but this is clearly going to
32:47
Speaker 2: enable him an his campaign team to regroup. I think
32:51
Speaker 2: the Democrats have really struggled this week and how to
32:54
Speaker 2: respond to that assassination attempt. I think they've been discombobulated
32:59
Speaker 2: by all how's this COVID diagnosis playing out.
33:04
Speaker 11: I do think it's kind of ironic if it is
33:05
Speaker 11: the thing that tips this over the edge, Because the
33:07
Speaker 11: COVID pandemic helped him get into the White House the
33:09
Speaker 11: first time, it could be the thing now that pushes
33:11
Speaker 11: him out. But I think they have completely lost control
33:14
Speaker 11: of this narrative around democracy being under threat. Now you've
33:17
Speaker 11: got these images of Donald Trump with a bullet going
33:20
Speaker 11: through his ear. The front page of the local Milwaukee
33:23
Speaker 11: paper the day after said we have to protect our democracy,
33:27
Speaker 11: and that was the Democrat narrative, and I think that
33:29
Speaker 11: still speaks to their base, but I think now equally
33:32
Speaker 11: it's going to be speaking to the base of the
33:34
Speaker 11: Republicans on the same note. And so when you're looking
33:37
Speaker 11: for those swing voters who really make the difference, they're
33:39
Speaker 11: going to be torn in both directions. And it is
33:42
Speaker 11: a scary thing to see a former president almost assassinated
33:45
Speaker 11: on a live TV event and a live rally, and
33:48
Speaker 11: people are going to be fearful about what happens with that.
33:51
Speaker 11: But Joe Biden, I think he has had a bit
33:53
Speaker 11: of a reprieve with this that there hasn't been the
33:55
Speaker 11: complete media coverage a day by day of every gaff
33:58
Speaker 11: and every issue. This has been dominated the headlines. But
34:01
Speaker 11: this time out might be the time that enough people
34:03
Speaker 11: can get to him to say, look, this is untenable.
34:05
Speaker 11: And we're only a month away from the Democrat National Convention.
34:08
Speaker 11: They're running out of time to do anything.
34:10
Speaker 2: And those ear bandages, I mean, they've really taken off
34:13
Speaker 2: with the crowd, haven't they. They have. They were growing
34:16
Speaker 2: day by day.
34:17
Speaker 11: We saw one or two yesterday and by today it
34:19
Speaker 11: was just dotted all throughout the crowd. So people have
34:21
Speaker 11: been putting white bits of paper or bandages on their
34:24
Speaker 11: ear as a show of solidarity for Donald Trump in
34:27
Speaker 11: the crowd, and it's become a bit of a symbol
34:29
Speaker 11: among the Trump supporters. We spoke to one gentleman earlier
34:32
Speaker 11: today who was from West Virginia, and he likened it
34:35
Speaker 11: to when people shave their heads for kids going through chemo,
34:39
Speaker 11: that they wanted to show solidarity for Donald Trump. And
34:41
Speaker 11: it really was. When we were in the room and
34:43
Speaker 11: he came in for the first time after the assassination
34:47
Speaker 11: attempt in Pennsylvania, you could see he was emotional and
34:51
Speaker 11: it really resonated with people in the crowd. They were
34:53
Speaker 11: wiping away tears. It was an emotional moment to see
34:55
Speaker 11: him walk out defiantly after that iconic photo of him
34:59
Speaker 11: holding the f start to say, wow, he's really here,
35:01
Speaker 11: and he's really back, and he's really in person, continuing
35:05
Speaker 11: with this and it's it was extraordinary.
35:08
Speaker 2: Well, i'll let you go at least. I know you're
35:10
Speaker 2: a busy day tomorrow. Thank you for your time. Thanks better,
35:16
Speaker 2: all right, say to tune to Sky News tomorrow from
35:18
Speaker 2: seven am. The final day the Republican National Conference at
35:21
Speaker 2: a convention and of course the big speech from soon
35:24
Speaker 2: to be a Republican formally accepted candidate Donald Trump. All
35:31
Speaker 2: right after the great Chris Bowen's green energy dream blows
35:33
Speaker 2: up as ford Eskew Scales back is push for green hydrogen,
35:37
Speaker 2: also slashing seven hundred jobs plus labour's a week response
35:42
Speaker 2: to those corruption allegations against the CFMAU welcome back, Stiel
35:50
Speaker 2: the come. The CFMU is warning that labors open the
35:54
Speaker 2: gates of hell by taking them on. But this is
35:57
Speaker 2: all smoke and mirrors, I can assure you, because we
35:59
Speaker 2: learned the afternoon the Queensland labor will be carved out
36:03
Speaker 2: of any suspension deal so as to allow Premier Biles
36:07
Speaker 2: to keep getting their donations ahead of the October state election.
36:12
Speaker 2: But first let's go to some other issues. Yesterday he
36:16
Speaker 2: was lauding Labour's race to net zero at the National
36:19
Speaker 2: Press Club. Well, today Energy Minister Chris Bowen's green agenda
36:23
Speaker 2: is in tatters. We learn that Fordeskew will cut seven
36:28
Speaker 2: hundred jobs and slower it's pushed into green hydrogen, which
36:32
Speaker 2: of course has been a big part of Labour's gamble
36:34
Speaker 2: to hit its targets. Now, Twiggy Forest is blaming higher
36:38
Speaker 2: energy prices globally as the reason for these cutbacks, saying
36:42
Speaker 2: that in this environment and I quote, you're not going
36:45
Speaker 2: to bring in major sources of green hydrogen which relies
36:49
Speaker 2: on cheap energy prices. He says, we're not going to
36:51
Speaker 2: swim against the tide. Now, this is a worry when
36:54
Speaker 2: even a green zealot like Twiggy Forest can face reality,
36:58
Speaker 2: but our energy minister cannot. Let's bring in now the
37:02
Speaker 2: environment editor at The Australian, Graham Lloyd for more. Graham,
37:07
Speaker 2: great to have your company seven one hundred jobs cut.
37:11
Speaker 2: The ambition at Twiggy to produce fifteen million tons of
37:15
Speaker 2: green hydrogen a year by twenty thirty. That's shelled. What
37:20
Speaker 2: does this do to Labour's green hydrogen ambitions.
37:25
Speaker 12: Well, good evening, Peter. It certainly puts a big cloud
37:30
Speaker 12: over what has been a central narrative of Labour's transition plans,
37:35
Speaker 12: and that is that a hydro hydrogen industry is going
37:39
Speaker 12: to be created and that will replace gas and coal
37:44
Speaker 12: and other things for baseload power. Andrew Forrest has given
37:49
Speaker 12: it a red hot crack. He's tried to disrupt the
37:52
Speaker 12: global industry and he's gone out there and what he's
37:55
Speaker 12: found is it's more difficult, it's more expensive, and other
37:59
Speaker 12: country are not willing to put orders in for something
38:03
Speaker 12: that's not technologically proven. And there's a message in there
38:07
Speaker 12: for the federal government.
38:11
Speaker 2: Well, what about the money. I mean, the budget had
38:13
Speaker 2: six point seven billion dollars in hydrogen tax incentives. What's
38:17
Speaker 2: happened to that?
38:20
Speaker 12: Well, there's two elements to that. One is research and development,
38:24
Speaker 12: which is underway and that will probably continue with other
38:29
Speaker 12: national governments Germany for instance. And the rest was producer
38:33
Speaker 12: credits that would be paid if companies were able to
38:37
Speaker 12: produce the hydrogen and it would subsidize the cost of
38:42
Speaker 12: doing so it's now looking more uncertain that that is
38:46
Speaker 12: going to be called upon because the truth is the
38:49
Speaker 12: technology to actually create the hydrogen is a long way
38:53
Speaker 12: from being established.
38:56
Speaker 2: Okay, so we know Labour doesn't like coal that I
38:58
Speaker 2: want coal for firming. They're giving us mixed messages on gas.
39:03
Speaker 2: We now learned they don't have hydrogen. What happens to
39:07
Speaker 2: the grid when it fails and they need ferming because
39:10
Speaker 2: we know it fails about sixty percent of the time.
39:16
Speaker 12: We're definitely seeing a shift in retoric and attitude towards
39:21
Speaker 12: gas from Labour.
39:22
Speaker 13: Now.
39:24
Speaker 12: It's the one feel that has always been there and
39:27
Speaker 12: was the logical choice, but it's been excluded because people
39:30
Speaker 12: were told that hydrogen would be a ready replacement. It
39:34
Speaker 12: was telling that in his address to the Press Club yesterday,
39:38
Speaker 12: mister Barron didn't mention hydrogen, but he did mention gas
39:43
Speaker 12: as part of the things that would be used for
39:47
Speaker 12: the energy future. So I think there's a resignation that
39:51
Speaker 12: gas is going to play a bigger role. It's just
39:54
Speaker 12: a matter how they negotiate that with the Greens, who
39:58
Speaker 12: absolutely hate it and how they get the state to
40:01
Speaker 12: the governments to get involved and start allowing more to
40:04
Speaker 12: be produced.
40:08
Speaker 2: Graham helped me understand this Blue and New South Wales.
40:11
Speaker 2: The Forestry Product Association is accusing the Men's government of
40:15
Speaker 2: carbon colonialism. This has got to do with National Parks
40:20
Speaker 2: and Wildlife Service putting a submission into a federal government
40:25
Speaker 2: entity about a new way to generate carbon credits. What
40:29
Speaker 2: can you tell.
40:30
Speaker 12: Us, Well, it's really a drama that is at the
40:36
Speaker 12: heart of forest management and that is a tree worth
40:41
Speaker 12: more and better left standing or is it a more
40:45
Speaker 12: profitable thing to cut it down and use it for
40:48
Speaker 12: other products. Obviously, a submission has been put to the
40:52
Speaker 12: federal government that says there should be a way of
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Speaker 12: giving a carbon value to forest stores and they shouldn't
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Speaker 12: be cut down. The Forest Products Group are saying, well,
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Speaker 12: that's madness and all it will do is result in
41:08
Speaker 12: trees being cut down in Indonesia and other places to
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Speaker 12: replace the stuff that we don't do here. Both sides
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Speaker 12: are pretty firm in their positions, and certainly it is
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Speaker 12: not possible to replace forest products completely by plantation. So
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Speaker 12: what they're saying about colonialism to an extent is.
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Speaker 2: True, Well watch that one, Graham Lloyd, thank you have
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Speaker 2: the raak, the change to parental rights in California, that
41:38
Speaker 2: you'd have parents in Australia. Very nervous warnings too, that
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Speaker 2: Australians are dropping support for renewables and UK Labour's agenda.
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Speaker 2: And now today the King's speech at the opening Parliament.
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Speaker 2: How has Nigel Farage responded, welcome back, let's read my
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Speaker 2: pad off tonight joining now Liberal Senator of South Australia.
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Speaker 2: How the Exantique and Spectator Australia columnist Terry Barnes, Well, Jens,
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Speaker 2: I want to start with what I regard is a
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Speaker 2: horrifically weak response from Labor about these allegations around the CFMU.
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Speaker 2: Allegations of course we've all known about for twenty plus years.
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Speaker 2: They've gone down the suspension route instead of disaffiliation or
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Speaker 2: as Hawk did, outlawing the predecessor to the CMU, the BLF.
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Speaker 2: They're not going to bring back the National Building Watchdog,
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Speaker 2: the ABCC, and they're keeping the millions and millions of
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Speaker 2: dollars in party donations. I mean, this is extraordinary, Terry.
42:39
Speaker 2: We find out too, of course Queensland they'll still take donations,
42:43
Speaker 2: not just give back what they've got. They've got an
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Speaker 2: election in October and they want the dough.
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Speaker 14: Oh it's pathetic, isn't it, Peter? Absolutely pathetic, And certainly
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Speaker 14: I think Labour's response to the CFMU across the board
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Speaker 14: federal landstate has been absolutely weak, pathetic, mindless. In the
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Speaker 14: Anthony Albanizia, Chris Min's, Sally McManus, the Act you, they're
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Speaker 14: saying that this is all new to them. This has
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Speaker 14: been hiding in plain sight forever. And as for the
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Speaker 14: Center Al and the Premier Victoria, she was Minister for
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Speaker 14: Major Projects so before she became Premier Group, so basically
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Speaker 14: she was the project manager of the CFMU, and she's
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Speaker 14: basically telling us that her real name is Sargeant Schultz
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Speaker 14: because she knows nothing. Look, it's pathetic, Peter. And what
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Speaker 14: we need is basically a clean out of the building industry.
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Speaker 14: We need a Royal commission into it, and certainly key
43:35
Speaker 14: people like to Center Allen should consider their future.
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Speaker 2: Now talk to me about this one. Alexandtik Red and
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Speaker 2: Bridge Upolsters come out today to say renewable energy is
43:46
Speaker 2: losing public support. Just like the Voice referendum. This was
43:51
Speaker 2: in an address to the Clean Energy Council's annual summit.
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Speaker 2: It says the voters are actually worried about the transition.
43:58
Speaker 2: They're worried about their power bills, of course, but they're
44:00
Speaker 2: worried the transition will lead to blackouts. I think the
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Speaker 2: whole house of cards is falling down, don't you.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I do, Peter, And it's music to my is
44:11
Speaker 10: probably music to a lot of people's ears, and people
44:13
Speaker 10: ultimately work scams out, and that's exactly what this is.
44:17
Speaker 10: I mean, we've spoken about it ad nauseum on this
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Speaker 10: station and many others have too. But ultimately people are
44:24
Speaker 10: starting to join the dots and understand that their power
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Speaker 10: bills haven't gone down by the two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 10: five dollars that they will promised pre election, and in
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Speaker 10: actual fact they have skyrocket. Power prices are up something
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Speaker 10: like twenty percent in inflationary terms. And that hasn't happened
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Speaker 10: because a wizard did it. That happened because so called renewables,
44:45
Speaker 10: and we've got to stop using that term. Wind and
44:47
Speaker 10: sol are intermittent power is what did that?
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Speaker 2: Look?
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Speaker 10: This country needs the cheapest power in the world. We
44:54
Speaker 10: have gone from some of the lowest consumer prices in
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Speaker 10: the world to some of the highest in a short
44:59
Speaker 10: period of time. And just by the way, for the
45:01
Speaker 10: strategists out there, that can be overlaid directly onto solar
45:05
Speaker 10: and being adopted. This is very expensive power. Nuclear power
45:09
Speaker 10: will go a long way to that. But also we've
45:11
Speaker 10: got a gas shortage, and frankly, I wouldn't rule out
45:13
Speaker 10: coal power. We should be striving for whatever gives us
45:16
Speaker 10: the cheapest power. To echo some of the sentiments that
45:19
Speaker 10: were heard at the RNC conference this week, we should
45:21
Speaker 10: be drilling, baby drilling.
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Speaker 2: Let's skate around a few international issues because there's been
45:28
Speaker 2: big events globally. Of course this week at Terry Barnes.
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Speaker 2: This assassination attempt on the former president. You've got Chuck
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Speaker 2: Schumer today saying that Biden, or apparently in the meeting
45:37
Speaker 2: on Saturday, but we learn about it today, Biden must
45:40
Speaker 2: stand down. It's been a rug a few days. How
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Speaker 2: do you read it?
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Speaker 14: Well, certainly it's been a very good Republican National Convention
45:50
Speaker 14: for Donald Trump, hasn't it. But certainly the way that
45:52
Speaker 14: he reacted instinctively on Saturday when he was actually wounded,
45:58
Speaker 14: I think has changed a lot of American's attitudes towards him,
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Speaker 14: and people are paying attention to in a way that
46:04
Speaker 14: I think even before this wasn't possible. But in terms
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Speaker 14: of mister Biden, when the leaders of the House and
46:11
Speaker 14: Senate Democrats go to his weekend tapp him on the shoulder,
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Speaker 14: basically says the lost confidence in him, and he's still
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Speaker 14: digging in. Look, I think it's a bit like Malcolm
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Speaker 14: Turnbull in twenty eighteen. It's going to take a lot
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Speaker 14: to blast him at but I think his days are numbered.
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Speaker 14: And the thing about the COVID issue with him is
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Speaker 14: in the week that Donald Trump has looked strong, vital
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Speaker 14: and robust, he's looking old, pathetic and weak.
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Speaker 2: You're right to point that out. I mean, even with
46:41
Speaker 2: an assassination attempt, he fronts up the next day, he's
46:44
Speaker 2: out there, he's fighting on he's at the RNC. And
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Speaker 2: you've got the other bloke with a bit of a
46:48
Speaker 2: sniff all who says he's doing quite well. He's locked
46:51
Speaker 2: up at Hi himself, isolated with a mask on. Hey
46:54
Speaker 2: what about this Lauren, California that just passed their parliament.
46:57
Speaker 2: Alex School district will not be allowed to tell parents
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Speaker 2: if a child is at school and changing their pronouns.
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Speaker 2: It was signed off by the Governor Gavin Newsom. Of
47:09
Speaker 2: course he's talked about as a possible successor to Biden.
47:14
Speaker 2: This would be very tough on parents. So we're talking
47:16
Speaker 2: in some instances here, obviously about very young children. It
47:21
Speaker 2: thrashes parental rights, doesn't it.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, look, it absolutely does, Peter, And in actual fact,
47:28
Speaker 10: I mean I'm reminded when I heard that of the
47:30
Speaker 10: words of the Soviet defector Uri absment of in nineteen
47:35
Speaker 10: eighty four is a famous clip floating around on YouTube
47:37
Speaker 10: where he said the way in which the Left infiltrate
47:41
Speaker 10: is the first age is demoralization. It's a fifteen to
47:44
Speaker 10: twenty year process and it's done in those cycles because
47:46
Speaker 10: that's about how long it takes to educate a child.
47:48
Speaker 10: It's what the left doing all over the world. We
47:50
Speaker 10: see it here in Australia too. By the way, I mean,
47:53
Speaker 10: have a look at some of the conversion therapy, the
47:54
Speaker 10: erroneously described and named conversion therapy laws that have been
47:58
Speaker 10: passed throughout various state partiers. They are all about incurring
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Speaker 10: on the rights of the family and the parent. The
48:04
Speaker 10: parents the primary caregivers, they're the primary educators. And I
48:08
Speaker 10: mean Elon Musk has taken this so seriously, this news
48:10
Speaker 10: that he's saying he'll pull all of his businesses out
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Speaker 10: of California. And by the way, he wouldn't be alone.
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Speaker 10: This is a long, long list of people that have
48:17
Speaker 10: done that. When I was in the United States, I
48:19
Speaker 10: met a couple, young couple who had moved from California
48:22
Speaker 10: to South Carolina simply because they couldn't take the wakerness anymore.
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Speaker 10: It's having real effect on people and this will have
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Speaker 10: its will have its in the deer in due course.
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Speaker 2: Jens amount of time, we'll have to come make the
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Speaker 2: king speech next week. Plans, of course they're in the
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Speaker 2: UK to renationalize the railways, all of that and more.
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Speaker 2: I will do that next week. Have a great weekend.
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Speaker 2: See you all on Monday at six up next and
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Speaker 2: Youibault