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GAVIN ROSSDALE Reflects On BUSH's Resurgence Ahead Of Australian Tour · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: And thank you so much for being here today. I
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  Speaker 1: know it sounds like you have been incredibly busy at
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  Speaker 1: the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what a privilege like. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's just wild, you know. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: I think it's so exciting and really fun and I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to come down there, so of course I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wonderful. Do you want to know something funny?
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  Speaker 3: Last night I had trouble sleeping because I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm interviewing Gavin Rossdale. But I actually had a nightmare
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  Speaker 3: that I couldn't get my words out and that you
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  Speaker 3: up and left the interview.
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  Speaker 1: So please don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that. I'm so funny you would do that.
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  Speaker 4: But no, I wouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: And with your cooking show that's happening at the moment
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  Speaker 3: as well, I know you've been on the other.
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  Speaker 1: Side interviewing some celebrities as well. How has that been.
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  Speaker 2: Really fun? My favorite thing about the show was, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I did it mind? You know, it's the biggest bluff
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  Speaker 2: of all time. I mean, how I even got all
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  Speaker 2: those people to agree to come around. Let me, film them,
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  Speaker 2: feed them, ask the questions. I was just like, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what's wrong with you? Like, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can believe it. But what I sort of came
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  Speaker 2: to realize is that I wanted to talk to all
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  Speaker 2: these great people so that everyone could watch.
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  Speaker 4: And realize that everybody has their story. It's never that easy.
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  Speaker 2: And grit and determination and luck all those things a
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  Speaker 2: huge factor. So I wanted to have a kind of
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  Speaker 2: inspiring show. We get to see something of these people
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  Speaker 2: that somehow I can get a slightly different opinion. It's
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  Speaker 2: different version of them.
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  Speaker 4: We're all different people to different people all day long.
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  Speaker 2: We're different people, right, so we're all able to be
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  Speaker 2: many many people. And with me being a sort of
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  Speaker 2: a fellow creative person, there's a there's a there's a
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  Speaker 2: letting down of the guard, you know, and not not
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  Speaker 2: not very defensive at all, like you know, because they're
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  Speaker 2: in my home.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Never going to do them wrong, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm never going to edit it to make them look shitty.
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  Speaker 4: I'm never going to set them up. Is that I'm
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  Speaker 4: not in anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: I really it's like it's it's like Switzerland, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like fun Switzerland around mind. You know, there's all
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  Speaker 2: that truce and just so that's what it is. I
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  Speaker 2: really enjoy doing it, and I'm hoping to well look
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  Speaker 2: forward to doing the second series in the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of months.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yes, oh wonderful. We can't wait. I was
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  Speaker 1: just gonna ask if there's going to be the second series.
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  Speaker 4: So that's a lot of setting up the shooting of it.
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  Speaker 4: There'll be another six episodes.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I will maybe a couple of weeks of
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  Speaker 2: prep for cooking like I did for those Lives. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: actually it's just a daye honestly because things, but so
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  Speaker 2: it's just like two weeks actual work. But to coordinate
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  Speaker 2: the next boatload of superstars is yeah, Like I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe we did it well well after we finished Brookshields,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the last one.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, score that.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like I don't you know, there's not like
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  Speaker 2: Larry Ellison signed me to Paramount Plus and like I
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  Speaker 2: got an easy ride. It was like four production companies,
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  Speaker 2: three TVs. It's like it's pulling teeth. It's well, my
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  Speaker 2: hair's so different than all like my head grown.
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  Speaker 4: The same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well, one day I'll get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to explain that it's a grind.
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  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: The coordination and all of that, as you were saying,
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  Speaker 3: must have been like next level.
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  Speaker 4: That's yeah, down the stairs and cooked. But the actuals
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  Speaker 4: of getting people in what I laugh.
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  Speaker 2: And I got better at it, you know, Like when
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  Speaker 2: at first we began, it was like it was the
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  Speaker 2: dinners were like four hours and so much alcohol with
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  Speaker 2: Tom and with them Jack, whereas like slaughtering amounts of alcohol,
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  Speaker 2: you know, very very very.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what's the word respectable amount?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even drink a lot, so for
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  Speaker 2: me right because you're doing it for hours and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't do any It's all in real time.
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  Speaker 4: But inevitably we began slower than we finished.
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  Speaker 2: By the time I realized, like Jesus Christ, I can't
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  Speaker 2: make it four hours drinking that amount.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that happened just so you could feel
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more comfortable in the beginning?
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  Speaker 2: Was that what was I really based on how it
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  Speaker 2: would be if someone came to my house, Like if
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  Speaker 2: you came to my house, I would get as much
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  Speaker 2: cooking done as I could.
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  Speaker 4: Then when you arrive, you hang out, drink talk, and
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  Speaker 4: then if.
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  Speaker 2: Something had to be cooked, better if I cooked it there,
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  Speaker 2: and then I cook it there, and then if not,
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  Speaker 2: bring out Like I love the dinners that you can
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  Speaker 2: just having another and it's all.
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  Speaker 4: Done effortless but actually cracking.
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  Speaker 1: On your Yeah, that's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: I do a lot of stuff like that, but I
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  Speaker 2: love it. It's not a chore for me. It's sort
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  Speaker 2: of it's a reflection of how I feel about the
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  Speaker 2: people I'm cooking for.
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  Speaker 3: That's so wonderful. I love that show. I recommend everyone
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  Speaker 3: check it out if you haven't. But also twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: six feels massive for Bush already. Does this resurgence feel
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  Speaker 3: surprising to you or does it feel earned after years
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  Speaker 3: of grinding?
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  Speaker 4: It's like a it's a combination of all things. You know.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be greedy and expect your time in the
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  Speaker 2: sun the whole time because no one's everyone's in the shade,
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  Speaker 2: especially in Melbourne. Yes, though, it's like the main thing.
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  Speaker 2: I often thought of it like a bit like being
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  Speaker 2: on a carousel. So there remainders where you come in
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  Speaker 2: the light, and you've got to keep you've got to
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  Speaker 2: keep going.
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  Speaker 4: When you're in the dark.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just stop get off the carousel, because as
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  Speaker 2: long as you stay on and you do your best,
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  Speaker 2: there is a chance that it comes back round against
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  Speaker 2: And that's how I really feel about life. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why it's so tragic when people give up and get
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  Speaker 2: squashed by things and just can't cope, which is perfectly
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  Speaker 2: understandable because you could be led to believe that you'll
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  Speaker 2: never come out into the light. But it's such a mystery,
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  Speaker 2: this life. I just say to my kids, like, just
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  Speaker 2: work on what you can. Like, if you have a
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  Speaker 2: craft or whatever you decide you want to do, you
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  Speaker 2: just work at that so that you're just better at
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  Speaker 2: what it is that you do. And then everything else, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: to crapshoot and be like those two things, like working
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  Speaker 2: in craft and be likable and not in that order,
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  Speaker 2: be likable and then working. Yeah, that's just I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what else anyone could do. And I'm I'm always
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  Speaker 2: slightly terrified.
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  Speaker 4: I remember this actually is a good story for you
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  Speaker 4: because it's fun for an interview.
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  Speaker 2: When I was working on concerting with with k I
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  Speaker 2: noticed that he he's very caught up and what his
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  Speaker 2: next projects were, and ask myself, Wow, like Keanu Reeves
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  Speaker 2: is like, isn't it like to.
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  Speaker 4: Have Walking the Park for him?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And it really, you know, he it has looked like
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  Speaker 2: Walking the Park and because since then he's done nothing
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  Speaker 2: but do fantastic work.
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  Speaker 4: Is incredible.
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  Speaker 2: But we did a TV show the other day somehow
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  Speaker 2: I knew or the Today Show. At the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: our tour, I played I beat Loneliness and he was
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  Speaker 2: being interviewed that day and.
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  Speaker 4: We're just chatting as really I hadn't seen him fm.
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  Speaker 2: Minute, and I said, God, you know what really struck
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  Speaker 2: me is when we first met and we watched that movie.
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  Speaker 2: I was talked about Constantine and constantly too.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I was so blown.
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  Speaker 2: Away by your sort of hunger or need to know
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  Speaker 2: what's next and playing what you're doing, and there's there's
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  Speaker 2: a degree of stress in it, you know, in.
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  Speaker 4: Real life, and it just you just realize this is
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  Speaker 4: the same for everyone. Every fuck is going.
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  Speaker 1: Through the same game, no matter who you're I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, I'm as good as my next record, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the next show, Like I'm going to come down
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  Speaker 2: there and have an amazing tour. So I feel really
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  Speaker 2: good about that. But yeah, life is incredible, and so
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  Speaker 2: this resurgence, we just kept playing in the dark and like,
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  Speaker 2: so it's funny because we played all these massive festivals
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  Speaker 2: here people freaking out and everything.
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  Speaker 4: I think to myself, obviously I really like it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get too wrapped up on it, because if
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  Speaker 2: you get seduced by that, then you're going to get
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  Speaker 2: you by when it goes away, you know, so you've
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  Speaker 2: got a tiky fat ego away from that. But I
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  Speaker 2: did feel in my heart it was I did have
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  Speaker 2: a very small voice in my heart was going, we've
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  Speaker 2: been like this rages.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because oh my fucking god.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the shows unbelievable and thinking we should have
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  Speaker 2: been there five.
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  Speaker 4: Years ago, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, life is just what it is. They
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  Speaker 2: weren't and we are, and we're excited to come and
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  Speaker 2: this tour is super exciting for us.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we asked all the time whenever it comes
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  Speaker 4: to Australia.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, two years ago, we were
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  Speaker 2: that and I thought, fucking that was such a great tour.
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  Speaker 2: We've gotta go right back. And it's like literally pulling
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  Speaker 2: teeth just like and they said We like that. They
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  Speaker 2: like the space. Don't ever do it. It's been two years,
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  Speaker 2: is it three or two years when we're here.
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  Speaker 1: Because you played the festival, didn't you. Yes, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: But and the logistics of getting every for every band
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  Speaker 3: getting to Australia is just horrendous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're so excited about that, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: really fun do that. We had an amazing time in Europe.
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  Speaker 2: We had spent ten weeks in Europe and it was
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  Speaker 2: just brilliant. It just makes sense for your life and
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  Speaker 2: you really do get to travel the world. We've done
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  Speaker 2: so much in North America, which is great, but I
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  Speaker 2: do like spreading the sound and so what's the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the world just feels like a life that lived.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, we absolutely love it, of course that you
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  Speaker 3: know that. You say that because we want more bands
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  Speaker 3: to still come to us. We know it's difficult to
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  Speaker 3: get over here. So no, we really appreciate it. And
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  Speaker 3: you're coming with Shine down as well. How are you
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  Speaker 3: feeling about that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's just fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've we've played with them quite a few
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  Speaker 2: times here in the States. They I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: great idea because obviously Together is a big it's a
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  Speaker 2: bigger it's a bigger building, and I want to play
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  Speaker 2: to more people. They're just a fantastic set of people,
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  Speaker 2: fantastic crew. Everyone knows each other. It's very relaxed and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just you know, what I do like about them.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite thing is that is that they you know,
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  Speaker 2: they desire to connect with their audience.
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  Speaker 4: They're very audience focus.
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  Speaker 2: You know, some people are not as much, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sort of more about their show or the cell they're like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, He's it's like a it's like a therapy
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  Speaker 2: session with Brent, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then with us. You know, it's funny because we do.
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  Speaker 2: The set, you know, God, I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: quite lows to do our forty five, but it'd be
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  Speaker 2: nice sizable set and the journey that we go on
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  Speaker 2: through the song, although we change the set all the time,
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  Speaker 2: it's just different stages of mental health and perspect and hope.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've had themes of loneliness and loss
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  Speaker 2: and magic and love and being found, being lost, being
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  Speaker 2: found again ever since.
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  Speaker 4: When I play the when I look down and just like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's such a.
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  Speaker 2: It it warms my heart, because it's like it's a
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  Speaker 2: whole life that given to music, and because as people
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  Speaker 2: there in the audience come and see me, it was
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  Speaker 2: not waste of time.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, there were many years where I began.
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  Speaker 2: That that it did seem as though a specially against
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  Speaker 2: all and that's just it's just what it is. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, life is so much more instant instantaneous now
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  Speaker 2: that that seems a bit of an Indian concept, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: but that's the truth, and that's our learning. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it adds to people relating to us because they feel,
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  Speaker 2: as they know it. It's not I've never sang about
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  Speaker 2: the sushi. I like, I don't even like about it.
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  Speaker 2: I never cared about that stuff, you know, don't. I
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  Speaker 2: don't drive flash cars. I just sort of live a
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  Speaker 2: nice life and just maybe like being connected with the people.
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  Speaker 3: That love the band, you know, Yeah, absolutely, and the
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  Speaker 3: fans definitely feel that from you guys as well.
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  Speaker 1: And in recent performances.
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  Speaker 3: Too, you have been playing more of those deep cuts
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  Speaker 3: in the set list. Are you enjoying visiting that older
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  Speaker 3: material again?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I'm always weary of pushing guys too much,
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  Speaker 2: but I would play loads more different songs, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So when Chris came to me and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we should expand the kind of pool of songs, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh fucking thank god mate, it was dying and and
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  Speaker 2: even now I want to extend it and push it
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  Speaker 2: and have like a bunch of you know, three or
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  Speaker 2: four other songs we haven't played, so that when we
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  Speaker 2: come to Australia there's a.
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  Speaker 4: Slightly there's a twist different. But and I you know,
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  Speaker 4: think about the modern world.
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  Speaker 2: All those settlists get published all the times people because
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  Speaker 2: people see it just like just like you know, people go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's the Pyro. We can't change the Set's like kill
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  Speaker 2: me if I do the same set every night.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I've never done that. I don't like that. But
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  Speaker 4: some people I don't have the luxury of I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get the I kind of like the fire.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of fun sometimes. Well, so I don't get
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  Speaker 2: the cannons.
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  Speaker 4: We can.
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  Speaker 2: I just I've spent life to devote to the tune
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  Speaker 2: of music, and so I have something on it. Just
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  Speaker 2: it's like write about of chorus, you know, if it's
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  Speaker 2: of course not popping, you know, yeah, really like extreme,
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  Speaker 2: don't I don't relate to that.
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  Speaker 1: It's jarring, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're anywhere near them, not expecting them, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. Does the Pyro feel hot to you because
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  Speaker 1: I know as an audience member at the front row
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  Speaker 1: it's boiling.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I don't know if we're using pirate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't mind that.
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  Speaker 4: I think you can like all that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, as I say, you know, we've been, we've
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  Speaker 2: been in the carousel. We're happy to like we like. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to find that powers. We have a great
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  Speaker 2: lighting guy.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, fantastic. Maybe not Pyro for Australia, just to
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  Speaker 1: let the fans.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder, you know, I mean it's more possible, who knows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic. And I've got to wrap this up. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: I could talk to you forever, Gavin. It's just amazing.
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  Speaker 3: But when people look back on this of Bullshoes from now,
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  Speaker 3: what do you hope they say about this chapter of
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  Speaker 3: the band.
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  Speaker 4: That it was.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a really exciting band to watch perform. I
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  Speaker 2: love the responsibility of trying to entertain and and just
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  Speaker 2: lose myself in that.
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  Speaker 4: You know when I first began.
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  Speaker 2: I was so uptight and does not lose, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when I was a kid first performing and you know,
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  Speaker 2: getting rejected by labels and having my voice criticize my
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  Speaker 2: stage presence or you know, movement on stage tiny pubs,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know exactly wasn't going to be doing,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, nonetheless as opposed to I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 2: slightly bitter, not bitter, but I obviously still remember that.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently we hold on to the results. Apparently we lose.
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  Speaker 4: We forget the compliments in my three years, but the insults,
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  Speaker 4: it's like.
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  Speaker 2: And so my freedom on stage and my willingness to
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  Speaker 2: be a clown and just lose myself in the momentum
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  Speaker 2: of whatever the fuck I feel like is liberating. And
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  Speaker 2: you know when I see the pictures, I go, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty loose.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I always remember the different earlier years where I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because I feel if I feel so much
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  Speaker 2: obviously better on stage now, I wonder what would have
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  Speaker 2: happened in my life i'd been like that then. But
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  Speaker 2: everybody got to loan your craft. You can't stage craft.
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  Speaker 2: There is no learning now outside of being on stage.
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  Speaker 2: Just me touring class for.
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  Speaker 4: Years was what grounded me and gave me that first start.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: So when I'm on stage, there's no dead time.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't amble, I don't just like everything
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: has intent. Everything on stage. I believe you're responsible for
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: this audience watching a show. So I'm not off on
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the side, like you know, blowing the nose and having
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: a drink and like you know something where it's like
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: i'm I'm it's I owe, this is this is our
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: time on stage and it's like sacred, you know, to
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: be entertaining.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: And so I was fine with a people. I see people,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: so I just.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Try to avoid that. But I see things I don't
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: and I think, don't be that just always.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Harrison Ford is my favorite actor. You know why because
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: it's always worried. Yeah, always worried.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: You can see it in his face.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So I mean it's never in a scene, but like
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not bothered. Actually fuck it right, yeah, always bothered.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm always bothered on stage.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That's you know, that's so interesting and that's so true.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I think if we look at you like you were saying.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Back then, like in the nineties up till now, how
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: much more loose you've become and care free. It's obvious
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: when you you know, those first few shows you played
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: on stage that we were telling like, yeah, that's crazy.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I wasn't I literally showed up, wasn't very good or
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't as good as my potential.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: But that's so how you meant to do it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: It'd be nothing worse than being like that there now,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: being like a tree on stage.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Kevin, thank you so much for your
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: time today. We can't wait to see you guys in September.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Thank you