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MNF Recap + Week 9 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Walcome to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: Rhett back with you as we Uh, we've got a
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  Speaker 1: rookie draft coming up in a little bit. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a Monday night game to get to. But uh, Buck,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Do you think it is
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  Speaker 1: just the Indiana performance? Why Red's been in such a
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  Speaker 1: good mood, Like is it? I mean, Kane is not pregnant?
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  Speaker 2: Is she?
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  Speaker 3: Like? What? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for throwing that into the universe.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I mean I mean why not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: No, just yeah, yeah, just basketing the glow of you know,
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  Speaker 5: eight to no and uh, probably another rookie Draft win,
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  Speaker 5: so I know.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that. Somehow Redd has found his way.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the first time you've been in first place
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  Speaker 1: since we've been doing the rookie Draft?
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  Speaker 4: I mean after winning last year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did not win last year. Stop we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: We've already gone over this, We've already covered this ground.
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  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, right, come on, all right, it's time for
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  Speaker 1: leading off here Giants, Steelers, Buck, I'll get to you
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  Speaker 1: first because I mean, I don't think anybody can question
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  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin when it comes to the quarterback decision. I
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  Speaker 1: think they put that to bed.
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  Speaker 2: How about knowing your team and knowing exactly what your
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  Speaker 2: team needs to get to the next level. He rolls
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  Speaker 2: the dice. Despite Justin Field's playing pretty well, he rose
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  Speaker 2: the dice puts Russell Wilson in lives through an uneven
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  Speaker 2: first half performance against the Jets, and in the last
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  Speaker 2: what three halves, he has been outstanding. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: has been terrific. It has expanded and open up the playbook.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen George Pickens, Calvin Austin make big plays.
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  Speaker 3: It opens up the running game.
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  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson has given them exactly what they were hoping
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  Speaker 2: to get when they put him in there.
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  Speaker 3: That veteran savvy and leadership.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, maybe Russell still can play a
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  Speaker 2: little bit when we port to dirt on him when
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  Speaker 2: he was endeavored.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it feels a lot like last week for Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 5: where you know, we also saw, you know, perhaps Russell's
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  Speaker 5: ability in the past game unlock what the Steelers really
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  Speaker 5: want to do, and that's run the football with Najie Harris,
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  Speaker 5: you know, average about five and a half yards of
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  Speaker 5: pop one hundred and fourteen yards and nineteen carries. You know,
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Warren involved in that aspect of it too, and
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  Speaker 5: they're getting healthier along the offensive line, which.
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  Speaker 4: Probably helps a little bit too.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean from the Steelers side of things,
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  Speaker 5: and we can you know, you guys want to get
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  Speaker 5: to the Giants thing. I you know, got something that
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  Speaker 5: I think we should we should probably talk about on
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  Speaker 5: that front too.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, for the Steelers, I mean this just this
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  Speaker 4: continues to make sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get back to you on the Giants here
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  Speaker 1: in just a second. My take on Russ going back
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  Speaker 1: watching that on tape this morning, I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: saw all three versions of Russ in that game. I
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  Speaker 1: saw the early career Russ, which was deep play action,
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  Speaker 1: getting way away from the center, movement on boots, just
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  Speaker 1: get him out out of the pocket and let him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, survey the field and deliver the ball. So
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  Speaker 1: that was like the early Russ. Then remember when Russ's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: now we're gonna, you know, let Russ cook and we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna put him in the gun and chuck it. And
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  Speaker 1: he had some big years doing that. There was elements
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  Speaker 1: of that where he's in there kind of just pick
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  Speaker 1: and stick from the shotgun to that version. And then
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  Speaker 1: I saw still like there's a there's a handful of
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  Speaker 1: plays where you kind of saw old Russ like maybe
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  Speaker 1: Bronco Bruss. We're just like he threw a couple of
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  Speaker 1: worm burners, held the ball a little bit like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so he kind of got the like to see all
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  Speaker 1: the different iterations I should say of Russell Wilson. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, the best way to
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  Speaker 1: do it is what they're doing with the original Russ,
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  Speaker 1: which is the deep play action, the boots getting to
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  Speaker 1: dump the ball off to those huge tight ends. You
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  Speaker 1: know that that works. That fits. That feels like Steeler
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  Speaker 1: football to me when I watched that book.
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  Speaker 2: So what this feels like is dim channeling Russell's early
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  Speaker 2: days in Seattle and hoping that he can tap into
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  Speaker 2: the experience to help a I would say a fairly
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  Speaker 2: young offense learn how to win. When Russell was playing
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  Speaker 2: with that version with Marshawn Lynch and those things. It
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  Speaker 2: was game manager Russ. It was play action pass Russ.
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  Speaker 2: It was making an occasional play with his feet to
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  Speaker 2: make it happen. And even though he doesn't have the athleticism,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's very comfortable doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I also think he's.
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  Speaker 2: At a point where, from a humility standpoint, he understands
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  Speaker 2: that this is the best way for him to play
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  Speaker 2: if he wants to extend and cement his legacy. I've
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  Speaker 2: always believed that this was a legacy play for Russ.
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  Speaker 2: If he succeeds in Pittsburgh, if he leads him to
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  Speaker 2: a super Bowl, the gold jacket that we were beginning
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  Speaker 2: to take off of him, the gold jacket goes right
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  Speaker 2: back on. And so to me, I think he's more
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  Speaker 2: willing to buy in than he had been in other situations.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that that probably makes sense too.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I thought this game kind of mimicked,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a little bit of as you were going
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  Speaker 5: back through the phases of what we saw last week
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  Speaker 5: and that you know last week your first half, You're like,
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  Speaker 5: was this the right call? But it does feel like
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  Speaker 5: you're work you know, a week over week, you're working
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  Speaker 5: a little bit less of Denver RUSS, a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more of early Seattle RUSS, and so that I'm really
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  Speaker 5: curious to see how this thing kind of continues to
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  Speaker 5: take shape now as we get into you know, three
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  Speaker 5: four or five weeks down the road with Pittsburgh. One
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  Speaker 5: thing I would say on the defensive side of the
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  Speaker 5: ball is, you know, that was kind of It's kind
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  Speaker 5: of interesting to see a banged up you know, Giants
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  Speaker 5: offensive line definitely had their problems pass protecting again, especially
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  Speaker 5: on the left side with Chris Hubbard in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yikes, that was that was bad.
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  Speaker 5: But that Steelers defense gave up, you know, some serious
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  Speaker 5: yardage in a run game to Tyrone Tracy, which is
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  Speaker 5: something that I wasn't necessarily expecting going into this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to I want to get to the
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  Speaker 1: Giants side of things here. Tarrow Tracy went and watched
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  Speaker 1: those runs. It is interesting just the just the threat
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  Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones. And we'll have the Daniel Jones conversation
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  Speaker 1: here in a second, but just the threat of him
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  Speaker 1: as a runner does help. The Backs held almost all
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  Speaker 1: those runs. We're on zone reads and you have to
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  Speaker 1: account for Daniel Jones on the back side, so you
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  Speaker 1: get cutback runs and you have no cutback support because
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  Speaker 1: they got to camp out in case. Daniel Jones has
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  Speaker 1: the football. So that's one of the impacts that he has.
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  Speaker 1: He touched on the offensive line issues. You look, milnk
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  Speaker 1: Nabors did some good things, Tyrone Tracy. You get the
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  Speaker 1: two rookies out there making plays. Those are positive signs,
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  Speaker 1: but it does feel like, you know, look, they're not
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  Speaker 1: winning games. Daniel Jones production wise has not been there.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to spin it forward to the positive
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  Speaker 1: side of things. And i want to see where you
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  Speaker 1: guys are at on this, because if in talking to
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  Speaker 1: teams around the league, the consensus is this next class,
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  Speaker 1: this rookie quarterback class, it's just okay. And I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: a chance to just get started on that. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: more on that as we get close to the spring,
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  Speaker 1: but the popular opinion is, hey, we're trying to find
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  Speaker 1: the next Baker Sam Darnold, like we want to the
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  Speaker 1: Geno Smith. We want to get somebody that we can
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  Speaker 1: the resurrection the Resurrection a candidate. And I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 1: gone is that the sneaky one I know the money
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  Speaker 1: needs the money, but like, if Daniel Jones gets out
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  Speaker 1: of New York and go somewhere, maybe a little less pressure,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little more support. Maybe the three p's are
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  Speaker 1: there to help him buck Like is he gonna is
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  Speaker 1: he got a chance to be a reclamation project.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a great guy to target, and I
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  Speaker 2: think you catch him at the right time, get him
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  Speaker 2: out of New York, get him on what would be
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  Speaker 2: a team friendly deal. Have your quarterback gurus pay attention
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  Speaker 2: to what he does well. Because he's athletic enough, he's
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  Speaker 2: smart enough, he's tough enough. He's shown the toughness. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's about putting him in a situation where he can
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  Speaker 2: have success. I can't say fully that he's been given
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  Speaker 2: everything that he needs to be successful in New York,
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  Speaker 2: Like they've.
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  Speaker 3: Never really had a top notch wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they get them eleaked neighbors now, but then the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the team is not what it needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: Put him in a situation on a I would say
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  Speaker 2: a good team, a team that needs imagine Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 2: playing for the Raiders, like if they got a wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver whatever, Like a team that needs someone that can
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  Speaker 2: be a stabilizing force at the quarterbackquisition.
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  Speaker 3: He has value. So for all the people that are.
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  Speaker 2: Poop point on Daniel Jones, he is going to be
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys that plays much better in his
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  Speaker 2: next destination than he did in his previous destination.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually an interesting one. But you know, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know that there's a Minnesota Vikings laying around, you know,
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  Speaker 5: for for Daniel Jones to walk into with a really
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  Speaker 5: good situation, a really good football team that way, the Raiders,
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  Speaker 5: you know, is one to kind of think about on
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  Speaker 5: that front. But obviously, you know, he's not gonna want
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  Speaker 5: to end up in Carolina, Like you don't want to.
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  Speaker 5: You don't want to go through that kind of stuff
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  Speaker 5: again where you're you know, you're you're the guy that's
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  Speaker 5: trying to hold this thing up and you got nothing else.
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  Speaker 5: Uh no beams, no pillars, no, no, you know, load
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  Speaker 5: bearing situation there beneath you.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's something to watch.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, for this version of the Giants, like
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  Speaker 5: they have to play perfect games in order to win,
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  Speaker 5: like they're so deficient in so many areas, like you
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  Speaker 5: can't have eleven penalties and you can't give up a
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  Speaker 5: special team's touchdown, you're gonna lose. It's just like they
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  Speaker 5: have to play so clean to win football games. Their
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  Speaker 5: margin for error is so much smaller, and in so
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  Speaker 5: many of these games you can't have those mistakes. Now,
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  Speaker 5: you could say that it might have been roughing the
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  Speaker 5: punter on that punt return score. I would probably agree
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  Speaker 5: with you on that, but still I don't know that
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  Speaker 5: the punter was going to go stop the guy from
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  Speaker 5: returning the thing for a touchdown, Like you got to
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  Speaker 5: go out there and do that. So I think there's
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  Speaker 5: there's some things to think about on that front. If
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  Speaker 5: the Giants want to try to, you know, make something
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  Speaker 5: out of this season, which increasingly feels like another loss
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  Speaker 5: to them.
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  Speaker 1: There well, I don't know how. I mean if Joe
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  Speaker 1: Flaka once played at least fifty or not, But he's
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  Speaker 1: another one. The Anthony Richardson thing, you know, is not
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  Speaker 1: going great. And if I was Daniel Jones, if I
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  Speaker 1: was his agent, that would be the one that I'd
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  Speaker 1: be targeting. That's a good one Inlis somehow, that's a
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  Speaker 1: good one.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good one, not only because of what they
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  Speaker 2: have said, but Shane Stikeen has shown that he can
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  Speaker 2: work with the athletic quarterback and have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: suces just looking to work that he did with Jalen Hurts,
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  Speaker 2: and we could say he's.
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  Speaker 1: And he's more refined than Anthony Richardson is past. So
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Anthony Richard's an athlete, but the passing
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  Speaker 1: stuff is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the passing stuff, and so that is a good location.
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  Speaker 2: So you're right if I'm Daniel Jones, I've not been
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  Speaker 2: out of shape over the rumors and the conjecture about
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  Speaker 2: them needing a quarterback. I have my representatives trying to
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  Speaker 2: target what's the next place for me to be able
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  Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to go. New Orleans will be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to watch as we continue to go down the line.
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  Speaker 3: The team isn't great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an affair. I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 5: It's to me that one's kind of similar to the Raiders,
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  Speaker 5: like they need more. They just need more, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to help a quarterback that's not at the upper team.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is when you sign, like if you
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  Speaker 1: go out and Daniel Jones on the market, you don't
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  Speaker 1: give up a pick for him, you sign him. You're
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders. The Raiders have a top ten pick. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you go out and you get
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  Speaker 1: a you know, a steady receiver and free agency you
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  Speaker 1: use a top ten ish pick on, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's you know, a receiver.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe just.
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  Speaker 1: Something to put pair up with Brock Bowers. I mean
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  Speaker 1: we've seen things. The picture can change pretty quick, that's right. Offensive,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, he's gonna be interesting one. I'm I
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  Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a good topic for us as
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  Speaker 1: we go into the spring, though, is who are those candidates?
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  Speaker 1: You know, who are those veteran guys that teams are
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  Speaker 1: going to be looking at.
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  Speaker 5: So somebody to give Joe a shot, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the tail end of his career. Yeah, he kind of
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  Speaker 5: fits that bill right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, that would be interesting to see. And
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  Speaker 1: uh and maybe Jamis just settles in uh with Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows. That's gonna be interesting one to follow. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to I'll be out there this week, so I'll
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  Speaker 1: We come back. Well, we'll catch up on the results
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  Speaker 1: from last week's rookie draft. Uh spoiler alert not great
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  Speaker 1: for me and uh and we'll have a new one
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  Speaker 1: for this coming week right after this. All right, uh rtt,
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  Speaker 1: you're cooking, man, you're cooking with the ass eight points
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  Speaker 1: for you. Last week? I got Buck, he got one
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  Speaker 1: but one what point?
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  Speaker 3: I know?
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  Speaker 1: But Buck, you're still you're still handling me. Rhett gets
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  Speaker 1: into the lead. He's got thirty four thirty four points.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky is one behind him at thirty three. I'm bringing
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  Speaker 1: up the rear at twenty nine. So I've got some
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  Speaker 1: work to do here. By the way, the bill, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you got me second place points there without me being
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  Speaker 1: here last week. I give you a credit for that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even say anything negative because
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  Speaker 1: that probably done worse.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking I thought I had Bonnicks. I thought Bicks had
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  Speaker 3: a good game for me.
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  Speaker 4: I had Nicks, I think right that had.
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  Speaker 1: Bix, Red had Bonex, Bucky. You had Caleb Pierce all
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  Speaker 1: on a doonsday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's bad. That's a bad day. That's bad.
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  Speaker 1: Office was a rough day for you, it was for sure. Well,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully Drake may is playing this week. See what goes
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  Speaker 1: on there coming off with a concussion, Rhett, it goes
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  Speaker 1: rhtt myself, Bucky. Yeah, so we have buys to keep
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  Speaker 1: an eye on. We have Steelers Niners, So no grendo
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  Speaker 1: for you. Rhtt.
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  Speaker 4: Fair enough there enough, Okay, go get them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm gonna I know, I was just gonna
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  Speaker 1: take you.
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  Speaker 4: Tough one. This is a tough one.
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  Speaker 5: Hopefully the Ribs are feeling a little bit better for
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  Speaker 5: our friend Jayden Daniels as.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to say.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the interesting part though, I'm thinking about it, but
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  Speaker 5: bo Nix is playing a Ravens team that just got
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  Speaker 5: torched by Jamis Winston.
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  Speaker 1: Not good.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that Sean Payton is going to opt
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  Speaker 5: for that type of down the field attack with Bow
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  Speaker 5: the way that Kevin Stefanski did with Jamis. And I
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  Speaker 5: feel like Baltimore is going to try to figure something
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  Speaker 5: out this week on defense. So I am going to
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  Speaker 5: go with Jayden Daniels against this Giants defense that has struggle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I respect that. I'm gonna I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be playing in that game. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go to the other side, and uh, let's just
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  Speaker 1: let's just stay with neighbors. Let's just keep riding that one.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go myleak neighbors buck.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, well that's a lot of fun. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go with Marvin Harrison Jr. Because he's going off
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  Speaker 2: a nice game at the party. He's back showing up
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  Speaker 2: at the party.
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  Speaker 4: And then I guess, gim tyree Stevenson going at it
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  Speaker 4: this week.
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  Speaker 2: Steve certainly, uh it got a nice slice of humble pie.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he will be best behavior if he's on
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  Speaker 2: the field at all, given the circumstances. And then I
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  Speaker 2: guess I'm have to follow it up. I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'm take Caleb coming back.
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  Speaker 4: Caleb, all right, Okay, same game, same game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that uh freeze me up. I'm gonna go give me,
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  Speaker 1: give me Brock Bowers and his fifty targets that come
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: to him every week.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Wanted that one.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Gotta have a big week, guys, gotta have a big
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: week this week. I gotta get back in this go ahead
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: red double up.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Okay, double up here, let's take a look at at
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: where we're at. You know, give me Lad McConkey, give
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: me Lad mcconkee. He's really coming on. Love the game
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: he had last week. I was a Bucky. If Bucky
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: would have went Bowers, I was going with Ladd. Yeah,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: so I'm going Lad and then you know, I want
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: I mean bt J, I mean, what's the do you
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: gotta you got an interest for us?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I think that he could be down. Bucky's not allowed
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: to say anything there, but he could be down that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: He's gonna go.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, go to go take him?
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Got it? Big game coming.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Then let me go back to the well.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: Oh shoot, hold on, you got the bucks going, I
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: got the Bucks going up against the Chiefs.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to get a little Bucky Irving actions out.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: We're looking for That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: You know, Tyrone Tracy, Huh, we've one alone off a
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: buck forty five.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Forty five perdue. Guy.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: That's a tough one for me. Guys, Yeah, that's a
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: hard one for me. All right, Yeah, you know what,
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: let's go back. Wait, hold on, Tracy went out, didn't
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: he go out?
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Of that game.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I can't remember.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean one of us, three of
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: us on one of the three of us on this
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: show is concussion.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Questions, Keevvy, Bucky Irving, let's go.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I mean Bucky. Yeah, Now, I forget who who would
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: you take? You took Black Bowers and who next I got?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I'm taking bow Nicks.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I got bow Knicks, So he's got neighbors in the
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: last pick, I've got Maconkie and Irving.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Gosh, I feel like I need.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Do you Keon?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Keon Coleman, Baby?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, are we really going to use him though?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: If we're Buffalo, are we really going to use I
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: mean yeah, but was it garbage minutes?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Like garbage minutes.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I've got a I've got a thought on that in
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: a minute, here go oh Jalen Right.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, no, okay, Let's just take Bill's mape because I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: getting pummeled in much in my uh mentioned on Twitter
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: because of Buffalo Bill's things.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: So let's take Kean cole Let's see if you can
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: do something.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm looking this up now because let's see raft class
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I saw I saw a somebody to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: tweeted this out and forgive me for not remembering who
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: it was, but said, okay, let's go. We got right here,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Keon Coleman Xavier Worthy. So Kean Coleman twenty two catches,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: four hundred and eighteen yards, three touchdowns. Worthy twenty catches
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: two forty three three touchdowns. So you've got You've got
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the production heavily in favor for if Keon Coleman. Keon
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Coleman's got eleven explosives, Xavier Worthy has five. So do
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the Bills get an apology from all the people on
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: social media that freaked out when they traded the pick
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that ended up being Xavier Worthy when they got a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: guy in Keon Coleman who actually is a you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you can make a strong argument it's a better fit
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: for the city of Buffalo. The weather, the stadium, the quarterback,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: all those things. Buck.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they should get an apology.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, Brandon being to those guys, and I'm
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: gonna say this, I thought the Buffalo Bills were going
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: to take a step back this year. Look, man, I'm
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: looking at them, and when they win, they are obliterating
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: teams like they are whipping people handily. And look the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: addition of a Mario Cooper gave them a number one,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if they're going to need him
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to be a number one as they continue to get
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: down the end of the season.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I think he was a nice kind of like bridge
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: to win Kean Coleman.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And some of the other guys can develop and take
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: over because Khalish Kor and some of the other guys
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: are doing it. Yeah, so they don't need to apologize.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I think they need apologies issued to them for what
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: they decided to do with Xavier Worthy because I don't
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: think he was going to be a great fit up
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the end it with.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what did he end up here? Ended
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: up with a touchdown this last week? Right, five catches,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: forty five yards and in the end Zime.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying he's been
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a whiff for a bus, but I'm saying I'm saying
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that guy has almost two hundred yards more receiving than
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: him at this point in time, and a couple more
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: catches and more explosive plays.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you on that. So I
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: wonder what what is Mari Cook? I mean, he had
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: what Kean had a pretty good day even with a
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Mary Cooper in there.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's played well, played well. He's starting
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to fit in a little bit there. So anyways, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: just a cautionary tale. Let's not uh, it's not astray people.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: What might be right for another team might not necessarily
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: be right for your team. So that's that's continuity though too.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: That's what we've always preached here too, is the advantage
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: when you have offensive coordinators, defensive coordinator system in place,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: head coaches that don't go anywhere. Fuck, you know exactly
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't work.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, f it is everything, you know what I'm saying,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: like being able to have the carryover over years where
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you know exactly what you get, you know exactly what
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: works for us, what pieces you need to surround the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: rest of the team with.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, Connuity is everything. Consistency is everything, all right?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: As we kiss red off here, Rhett, who do we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: have this week?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Who the woters?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Guy?
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Michigan State battle for the old brass patoon, good old
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: trophy game?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Here? Folk? What's the Purdue game? What was that for?
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: The old oaken bucket?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: The oaken bucket? How many games do you have with
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: something on the line.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: We have We used to have three when we played
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Kentucky every year was the border, the border barrel. Well
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: it was technically the bourbon barrel, but it got declassified
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: down the book border barrel.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: So now it's just the old brass patoon and the bucket. Yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I feel why are we always playing for so many
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: gimmicks and stuff in Indiana is because like, like football
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: has been great. I feel like everything college it's like
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: it's like we're always playing for Hey, this.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Is a this is a what did you guys? What
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: did you guys have? Like you don't have a state?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Did we have anything? Did you guys get anything for
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: those games?
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: We have the victory bill for uh, that's the only one.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: But you can't every game can't be a game of
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: significance and memorabilia on the line. Like it should be special.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be every week we're playing for something.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, uh, we tell that to Paul Bunyan's acts.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, we're playing for something every weekend.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have never felt pressure like playing Western Carolina
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: for the old Mountain jug. I'll just tell you that
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: right now, coming up shoot jug there. Yeah, Unfortunately they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: didn't make the jump up with us the Division one.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So that Mountain Jug I'm sure it's in the football
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: office still somewhere. All right, good stuff for us today.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll see that
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: M