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Cubs lose Steele, Trout vs Fan, Yanks IL Stroman, Twins Gaffe Demotion · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 2: All right, let's charge the mound. Justin Steele is going
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  Speaker 2: to have season ending surgery to repair the flexor tendon
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  Speaker 2: n UCL in his elbow. AJ what'd you think when
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  Speaker 2: you saw this? News for a guy who's really been
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  Speaker 2: their workhorse the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: It stinks.
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  Speaker 1: It stinks for everybody involved. First of all, let's start
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  Speaker 1: with Justin. It stinks for Justin because he's been a
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  Speaker 1: really good pitcher for the.
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  Speaker 3: Last couple of years for the Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: And then it obviously stinks for the Cubs because he
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  Speaker 1: was one of their guys behind SHOWDA and then he
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  Speaker 1: throwing ty On and Matthew Boyd and Ben Brown was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be Ray. Now listen, Colin Ray did pitch
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  Speaker 1: an ice for him yesterday against the Dodger, so he
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  Speaker 1: stepped in nicely. But over the long haul, you want
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  Speaker 1: Justin Steele in there.
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  Speaker 3: It just it stinks.
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  Speaker 1: All these elbow injuries, all these injuries in general. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it's me or just seems like there's
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  Speaker 1: way more injuries this year than there have been in
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  Speaker 1: the past. You can't blame WBC, you can't blame a lockout,
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  Speaker 1: you can't blame a short and spring training, a longer
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  Speaker 1: spring training. It just seems like there's been more injuries
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  Speaker 1: than I remember.
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  Speaker 2: What about Tokyo his season started early. Not blaming that either, Nah, No,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, go.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead a j Sorry, No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he threw what he only threw four not
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  Speaker 1: even four three innings maybe in Tokyo.
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  Speaker 2: I think he got knocked out in the fourth.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a long and it.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't you didn't throw one hundred pitches in March, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he threw I think he's seventy five, seventy
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  Speaker 1: to seventy five pitches, So it's all todd He didn't
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  Speaker 1: throw a hundred pitches.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that's kind of what I was going
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  Speaker 4: to say, Like it was just it was a scheduled
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  Speaker 4: start spring training. I guess you could say spring training start.
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  Speaker 4: It was during spring training, but the games did count,
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  Speaker 4: so uh, it was expected for him to go out there.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just an unfortunate event to injuries this year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, you know, maybe it's like
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  Speaker 4: this every year, but it seems like the big name
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  Speaker 4: injuries and uh, you know, people are dropping like flies
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  Speaker 4: and that that's the tough part. And that's while you
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  Speaker 4: need to have depth and you need to have really
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  Speaker 4: good farm system and I believe in that, and if not,
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  Speaker 4: you got to go out and get some guys, and
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  Speaker 4: there's some teams that are hurting right now with some
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  Speaker 4: big names.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are sixty seven pitches in that. That's not
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  Speaker 2: sixty seven, seventy seven seventy eight. Last adding was ninety one.
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  Speaker 3: He also had one.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not forget he had a little something last year,
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  Speaker 1: didn't he didn't he have a little elbow something. I
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  Speaker 1: thought at the end last year. Am I wrong in that?
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  Speaker 1: I know he had a hamstring early, but I thought
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  Speaker 1: he had something early in the or later in the year.
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  Speaker 3: But I could be wrong on that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I read that somewhere that he had a
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  Speaker 1: little little something something going in there.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta look. I know he had hammy too. I
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  Speaker 2: remember that I got a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot hammy hurt on Opening Day. Hammy? He remember last
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  Speaker 3: year on Opening Day? I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was Yeah, I think it was Opening Day.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he missed about a month last year.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll look into anything else from last season. The
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  Speaker 2: other thing, you know, he was on North Side Territory
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  Speaker 2: our Cubs show a couple months ago heading into spring training.
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  Speaker 2: He's a really good interview, by the way, and that
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  Speaker 2: one still plays if you want to go back and
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  Speaker 2: listen to it. But he talked about how so many
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  Speaker 2: of the cubs are there just pomping working hard in
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  Speaker 2: Arizona all off season, and I'm like, that's awesome. You
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  Speaker 2: love to hear that as a fan. But it does
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  Speaker 2: still bring up the topic of the arm injury epidemic,
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  Speaker 2: and you wonder if pitchers are doing things right, and
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  Speaker 2: that includes the off season. Are they going to full
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  Speaker 2: speed ahead in the wintertime.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But by the way, he had Tommy John in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: justin Steel did and he was on the shelf last
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  Speaker 1: year with elbow ten andightis towards the end of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: So this wasn't something I think that just popped up.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: You can be as healthy as a horse and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden you just will go out and throw
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  Speaker 1: one pitch.
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  Speaker 3: And you see guys go like this all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter whether or not or was And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we listen. I think we need to look
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  Speaker 1: at the way we train. I think we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it with doctors on here, Todd. I think we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it with other people that are involved with this
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  Speaker 1: injury experts that one guy's don't throw enough. Everyone's lifting heavier,
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  Speaker 1: but are they throwing enough? And I think it's something
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  Speaker 1: we need to continue to study and figure out because
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  Speaker 1: there's just too many guys going down.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's got to be something different.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I talked to like the Jim Maloneys of
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  Speaker 4: the world, the big time reds pitcher back in the day,
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  Speaker 4: who threw close to one hundred if not one hundred
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  Speaker 4: that people don't talk about. Jim, what do you do? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what's the difference? We iced, and then we long toss
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  Speaker 4: and then we'd licen. We long toss every day. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: even after you threw one hundred and eighty pitchers, yep,
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  Speaker 4: just long toss and that's really all they did.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he's.
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  Speaker 4: Run, I don't yeah, and just got lactic acid out
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  Speaker 4: of there.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the difference is. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: are they lifting too much? Because he used to tell me, like,
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  Speaker 4: how about your workout sessions. You'd be like, listen, we
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  Speaker 4: had to work. I had to find another job. So
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  Speaker 4: whether it was cutting trees or helping the dad out
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  Speaker 4: with the local business whatever it is.
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  Speaker 5: They have no time for that, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So their workouts were picking up heavy, you know, loads
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  Speaker 4: of uh, you know, mulch or whatever it is they're doing,
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  Speaker 4: lumberjacks would whatever it was, and that was their workout.
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  Speaker 2: Aj it is time for people to get some new clubs,
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  Speaker 3: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I was there today, I've been there before. Last time
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  Speaker 1: I was there, they gave me this killer gapage. Look
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  Speaker 1: at that sweet spot, Scott. It is worn out. That
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  Speaker 1: is right in the sweet spot right there. So I
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  Speaker 1: went and got new clubs today, new irons. But more importantly,
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  Speaker 1: I got this bad boy. I got me a new putter.
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  Speaker 1: This is my old putter.
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  Speaker 1: because I was draining some putts today. Bob, the guy
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  Speaker 1: who helped me out, he helped me with my irons.
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  Speaker 1: He got them teed up perfectly. But then we went
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  Speaker 2: See site for details for Steel. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: a guy who is fun to watch pitch. Like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: he was pretty reliable the last few years. Fifth round pick.
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  Speaker 2: So this a homegrown guy they were really proud of
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  Speaker 2: to have in the rotation. Cubs are trying to take
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  Speaker 2: another step. Will the Cubs be okay? They're off to
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  Speaker 2: a booming offensive start. They had a sixteen to nothing
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  Speaker 2: win on Saturday. Pete Crow Armstrong was the man on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday with two homers back in his home state. Let's
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  Speaker 2: check out the rotation here. AJ want to read through
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  Speaker 2: it and let us know where you think it stacks
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  Speaker 2: up now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, showed at the top is great. Showed at the
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  Speaker 1: top is a one. Can Matthew Boyd stay healthy? Tians
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  Speaker 1: is a good Tyon's a good compliment to show to
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  Speaker 1: Ben Brown will see, Colin Ray will see. I think
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  Speaker 1: they still need another one. But I will say this,
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  Speaker 1: there is one good thing. They're off to a great start.
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  Speaker 1: They're eleven and seven.
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  Speaker 3: But the again, I.
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  Speaker 1: Still I just until I see somebody in that division
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  Speaker 1: other than the Brewers do something, Todd's Reds or whoever
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  Speaker 1: it has to be. I still think the Cubs right now,
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  Speaker 1: on paper, are the best team in the division.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would have to agree with you on that.
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  Speaker 4: It's it kind of hit or miss a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: The Reds are kind of getting going a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more against the Pirates. You know, it's really kind of
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  Speaker 4: all over the place. Nobody wants to take full charge.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's early, but at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: we'll see how it goes with more games. But yes,
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  Speaker 4: the injury bug of every division has really botherished them
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  Speaker 4: the most. I mean the one and I hate to
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  Speaker 4: change gears on the Couse, but the one in that
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  Speaker 4: central that really bothers me.
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  Speaker 5: That Matty McClain. Man.
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  Speaker 4: This guy has been absolutely exceptional when he plays, and
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  Speaker 4: now he's got another injury too as well. So every
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  Speaker 4: team seems to have something but for the Cubbies it's
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  Speaker 4: a good, good top to bottom. It's not great pitching wise.
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  Speaker 4: So again, I think I have to agree with AJ.
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  Speaker 4: They might need another another starter or two to get
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  Speaker 4: them going, especially with this injury.
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  Speaker 2: The Red's rotation actually looks pretty good right now. In comparison,
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  Speaker 2: you got Hunter Green who was dealing again at the top.
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  Speaker 2: Lodolo's really good, you got to keep him healthy, Martinez
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  Speaker 2: is pretty durable, Brady Singer's pretty damn durable, Andrew Rabbit
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  Speaker 2: right now in the five, and there's a few other youngsters,
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  Speaker 2: including some former first round picks, who could make their
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  Speaker 2: way back up to the show at some point, Red
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  Speaker 2: Louder and Chase Burns. So to me, I gotta see
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  Speaker 2: him do it. I know, okay, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean here's my thing with the I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: Tyan can pitch a whole year.
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  Speaker 3: I know Boyd has pitched a whole year before.
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  Speaker 1: We saw Shoto do it last year's you know, the
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  Speaker 1: other guys in this rotation I think can do it
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  Speaker 1: for the Cubs. The biggest problem for me is, yes,
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  Speaker 1: pretty Singer can pitch you all year. Hunter Green missed
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of time last year. Lodolo seems like he's
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  Speaker 1: always injured. Abbott seems like he's always injured. This isn't
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  Speaker 1: a knock on these guys. And I hate this. I
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  Speaker 1: hate bringing up injuries with guys and I hate what Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they're always hurt, They're always hurt.
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  Speaker 3: I hate saying that about guys.
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  Speaker 1: But at some point you have to prove that you
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  Speaker 1: can make thirty starts a year over the long haul,
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  Speaker 1: and you have to do a year fyear. That's what
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  Speaker 1: makes the great ones great. Justin Erlin or Max Schurz
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  Speaker 1: or Clayton Kershaw and those guys were going great. They
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  Speaker 1: were making thirty thirty two starts every year. That's one
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  Speaker 1: of their first ballot Hall of Fame guys. CC Sabathia Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yep for Steel. By the way, we don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's TJ right. My guess is when they say he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna have surgery to end the year, that it might
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  Speaker 2: end up being the internal brace that's becoming a lot
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  Speaker 2: more popular. That's what Spencer Strider had. And if that's
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  Speaker 2: the case, you get steal back in about twelve months
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  Speaker 2: versus closer to sixteen months if it's a second Tommy
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  Speaker 2: John surgery. So I'm sure they're gonna do everything they
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  Speaker 2: can to make sure that it's the brace if they're
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  Speaker 2: able to do it, if he's brace eligible, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you always want to get a brace the least.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that what show had the brace on him.
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  Speaker 1: I think the brace, right, the brace is better than
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  Speaker 1: the full Tommy John.
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  Speaker 3: But they both suck. I mean it sucks either way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it seems like the brace now is the
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  Speaker 1: new Tommy John that we maybe should have done, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whenever they I don't know, they both suck it both.
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  Speaker 3: It just sucks that we keep having to talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it does, and hey, I mean gives more life
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  Speaker 2: to the Brewers too. The Cubs, it's such a banging
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  Speaker 2: offensive start to the season. It seems like the offense
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  Speaker 2: is going to be much better if Kyle Tucker looks
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  Speaker 2: like this and you're able to plug him in like that.
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  Speaker 2: But even for Milwaukee, I mean, their rotation was in shambles.
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  Speaker 2: They got Kintana back the other day, who looked really
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  Speaker 2: good per altas your guy at the top, but I
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  Speaker 2: mean that is not a sexy looking rotation right now.
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  Speaker 2: For Milwaukee, a lot of guys on the mend that
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  Speaker 2: they'll get back at some point this year. Brandon Woodriff,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Gasser and Moore. But right now, do you like
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs but than everyone else right in the division?
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  Speaker 2: I would say right now, the way they're kicking, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: without a doubt. But that can change today, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So again, it's wide open. I had
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  Speaker 2: the Reds winning, you know, the division, and it's still
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  Speaker 2: wide open for every single team. So again, Brewers had
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  Speaker 2: that slow start really so you know, we got beat
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  Speaker 2: up by the Yankees a little bit. Now every team
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  Speaker 2: here we go and it's like the now everything in
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  Speaker 2: the Central, you know the Al Central too as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of just like here they got Dody Dody
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  Speaker 2: Dough who's gonna take off? It's early work words, it's
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: early eleven and seven. Cubs, Brewers are eight and eight,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Reds are eight and eight, Cardinals are seven and eight,
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  Speaker 2: and then the Pirates are off to a five and
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: eleven start. What do you think of the division so far?
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: For at few weeks of the season, AJ.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Well, the Cubs have been the best team in this division,
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  Speaker 1: especially if the Kyle Tucker keeps swinging it.
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  Speaker 3: The way he swung it.
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  Speaker 1: The Cubs are gonna need something at a show at
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of the order. I know, they hit ninth
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  Speaker 1: to get going. Their defense, though, has been incredible.
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  Speaker 3: You will.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you guys watched the
• 14:42
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• 14:44
  Speaker 1: the defense on the defensive side, especially with Horner and
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  Speaker 1: Swanson up the middle. So I do like the Cubs,
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  Speaker 1: and it pains me as everyone knows to say that,
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• 14:54
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• 15:01
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• 15:04
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  Speaker 1: him back on the right side. But I mean, if
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Skeens doesn't pitch for the Pirates, it's it's it's been
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  Speaker 1: rough so far. Keller's had a couple of nice starts,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: but it's been really Skiens and you need Keller and
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: then with Jones down, it's it's been rough. That's where
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta make the wins up in the central right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Bubba Chandler is on the cusp too.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: They're tempting.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I still can't believe.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I can't believe he didn't make the team out of
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: spring training. With the way he pitched in spring training.
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  Speaker 3: I was shocked.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Remember we had him on the show. I was shocked
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: he didn't make the team.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the plan is there. I mean,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: people wanted to see Skeens crack the team right away
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: last year, and they didn't do that. They waited, they
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: did the baby steps, and then they brought him up
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: what I think it was like May twelfth, something like that.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: So whatever plan that they have I don't necessarily agree with.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Because if Bubba Chandler's ready and he's up there from
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the start of the year, you get yourself a little
• 15:58
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• 16:04
  Speaker 3: That matters. It seems like Pittsburgh that matters.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, schemes got called him May twelfth, right, and they
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: still didn't they he got he won Rookie of the
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Year so don't or wait, they don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: They do not know they didn't because they didn't call
• 16:18
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• 16:21
  Speaker 2: that one. Let me double check though, But so the
• 16:23
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• 16:25
  Speaker 2: service time, but they did not call him soon enough,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: so he got called up on May eleventh. They did
• 16:32
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  Speaker 1: That's like the White Sox's in the most games in
• 16:55
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's right. That brings right up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say this is worse since you actually
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• 18:41
  Speaker 1: It's tough because you know, everyone's like, oh, we don't
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  Speaker 1: want nets up, but if you put a net up,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it stops this from happening. Right, And it's still a
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  Speaker 1: dangerous situation because Trout did catch it, but they kind
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  Speaker 1: of caught it at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It was like Trout's glove went around the guy's hand
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  Speaker 1: and he just pulled his hand out of his glove.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: It wasn't malicious at all.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And then Trout, if you guys saw a metal with
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: him and his son after the game and had a
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: nice conversation, it wasn't a malicious thing at all, I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: understand why trout. Trout was into the sands. It's just
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a crazy it's a crazy rule that we need to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: figure it out. But there's no way we want fans
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: closer to be more involved in the action. But you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: see the guy, he's like, man, my hand was in
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: your glove. Man, Like sorry, he was apologizing like right away,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and the other guy gives them a high five, like
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I actually think the guy caught it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's such a funky wonky thing.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: It was like the guy.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Called it, Trout knocked it out, and then I don't know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: but it was in the stand. So the umpire has
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: made the right call, and good on Trout for not
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: getting too mad.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I agree with Johnny end there. Look.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: The only possibility that they can't call that a catch,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: in my opinion from washing Over, is the fan hits
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: the ball first. I couldn't tell whether the fan touched
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: it first. Then Mike Catt could. It looked like Mike
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: did catch the ball as we're watching it here again,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: it's in his glove and.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: The fan it's in that ball.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I would die on that cross there. He that ball
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: was in his glove and he took it out of there.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: And I'll be honest with you, Mike is just the
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: nicest guy, as you know. He was like, hey, are
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: you okay, Like he kind of like downplayed a little bit,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: which in the heat of the moment, you don't know
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: what you do.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: We've had this before, we've seen it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: We have no clue what anybody in here would do
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: at the heat of the moment, and it just it
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: was barely in the stand. So I guess the rule
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: is the rule. But I'm just surprised they didn't really
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: take that big of a look at it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a j shouldn't they look at that and be
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: like or even take it a step further And just
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: like you said, either figure out netting or obviously you
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: want to keep people as close to the field as
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: possible for the fan experience. But it just seems like
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this might start popping up more frequently you get some
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: people on the edges.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I know too, you know, because the only other thing,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you know, as much as we love that Mike Trout
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: did meet with the people, as Frankie said, Frankie and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: our chat said, you know, and I agree with this,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Like we don't want people doing stuff just so they
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: can goya if I grab the ball out of Mic
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Trout's glove and I'm going to get to meet him later,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: right Like, we don't need that, we don't want that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And here they are meeting, meeting, and the guy apologize.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You can see him on the replay. He's like, my
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: bad right away. And so they're getting to meet Mike
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and it looks like the kid got a bat from Mike.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: All that all, that's great and all, but let the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: players play stay o the way I know Mike was
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: into the stands. It's the fans right to go get
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the ball. Just be careful, people, Please be careful, because
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: we don't want someone to get hurt on something like
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: this and we don't need an altercation that doesn't need
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Please wait, So why is the play last year in
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the World Series? Fan interference? But this isn't because the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: umpire Alan Porter was asked about this post game and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: he said, I wasn't in the World Series. I don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: even remember seeing the play, So he's not a baseball fan.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Clearly, that's not true. That's not true because that play
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: was everywhere.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Why would he say that?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Because it makes it an easy answer from when they
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: asked the next question. If he didn't see that, he
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: says he saw it. If he says he saw it,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: then he asked to explain the difference. If he goes,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I just went off this one.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That's the easy way out. It's easy answer. And I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: understand why he said it, because you don't want to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: answer more questions. But I don't know why one was
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: one thing and one was it wasn't. It doesn't make sense.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe because the other guys were yelling at Mookie Betts
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and these guys were nice about it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it didn't matter, next play flies outle
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like what if? What if it did matter?
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: It does matter? I think it does.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I think I think it's one of those things where
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: you have to take another peak Ron Washington and he
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: just like, oh, it came out nice and easy, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: then just walk back in.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. Maybe we just downplay it like
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: like the Angels did and just move on.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: But you know, could it could have been something again
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: that could have hurt somebody. But yeah, I mean, if
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: you're in a baseball everybody saw that play.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think slippery slope. We gotta be careful
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: here because you're even last year they had to learn
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a quick lesson a Jane. We were part of the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: blast because originally they were like, man, we're not gonna
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: do that much. We're just gonna kick them out of
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the game, and it sounds like they're gonna come back.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So this part, I do want to emphasize that I
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: do think Trout did right. Trout seemed to point out
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that the fan was apologetic and really was like, oh
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm so I didn't mean to do this.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Last year, those guys are grabbing bets and then they
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: go on a press tour. Essentially, this is our turf.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: We're defending him. They go on a couple stupid shows, right,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, fans are coming after them,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's an article like, oh, I'm getting threats
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and whatever, like you were threatening bets. You guys handled
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: this completely wrong, right, Like bozo thugs trying to go
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: after players. This was handled opposite by the fan obviously
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: trying to maybe even teach an important lesson his son,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: like I made a mistake. I'm saying sorry right away.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Trott rewards that, So that part of the narrative I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: thought was actually really cool.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed. It was two completely different people. One person
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: was sorry, the other two clowns were not sorry. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: mean they were oh yeah, like you said on shows,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: this is our turf, We're gonna be back there tomorrow,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: game three, whatever, dude, just go away, and they got
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: banned for a long time.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I believe.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: My question is I don't know what the hitter ended
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: up doing that about, but if he would have got
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a hit or and then scored a run or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: man I would have been so if I was catching
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: oh man.
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  Speaker 3: I was logan on hobby back there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And the trout makes it catch and then and he
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: sayd god forbid. The guy hits a home run. I'm
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: screaming at Alan Porter, like you cost us a run,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: this is your fault. And I'm probably getting ejected right there.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I don't know what ended up having it,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: but the Angels handled it better than most people would have.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, well, we have a couple of minutes the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: TV crowd's didn't break. AJ can spend some time telling
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  Speaker 2: everyone how the White Sox had a weekend. Dude, that
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  Speaker 2: was even close yesterday? What they won two out of
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm gonna say this right now, and
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  Speaker 1: both sucks suck, they like suck suck, both of them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. The Red Sox can't hit a lick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's also nothing against these guys.
• 24:51
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  Speaker 3: But man, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: If you're the Red Sox, you can't not lose two
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  Speaker 1: you know what, it's karma for Pap.
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  Speaker 3: Pap.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You always bet against the damn White Sox. So suck it, Pap.
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  Speaker 1: You got two three, and I was hoping they sweep you,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: just so I could come on here, where are you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: out about the White Sox sweeping the Red Sox?
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  Speaker 2: Boom there you go. Hey, yeah, Crochet was awesome yesterday.
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• 25:28
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• 25:30
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• 25:33
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• 25:35
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• 25:45
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• 25:47
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• 25:49
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• 25:51
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• 25:54
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  Speaker 1: It's just they haven't hit I mean, I know they
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• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Twins are off to a slow start. It struggled city
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: for them. They did pick up a win yesterday but
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: lost another series. And there was a play on Saturday
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: where Jose Miranda thought he was out, so he starts
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: heading back to the dugout, but he was not out.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: The umpire called him safe. He was never tagged, so
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he was optioned after the game. Now, he was off
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to a very slow start. He was in one sixty
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: seven with no pop. But Roccobaldelli definitely laid it out
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: after the game and said Miranda has to do better
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: on that play. Cole Keith wasn't on the bag. Jose
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: didn't make it to the bag on the slide. Either way,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: umpire was clearly signaling safe. We have to be paying
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: attention and never allow something like that to happen. We're
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: showing you to play right now. If you're checking this
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: out podcast later on audio Wise, then you can watch
• 28:23
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• 28:25
  Speaker 5: But let me see that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: How crazy is that? Like to me? I mean, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: can't relate. How does that happen?
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Is it just the ultimate brain fart here? And do
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you think obviously it wasn't hitting, But do you think
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that they're like, hey, we got to send a message.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: This team is flat right now, we're optioning this guy out.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I think maybe the only other thing I think if
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: it's on his mind that he's not hitting, like oh god,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I got a hit, and forget about the scenarios and
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the situations and what to look for. I mean, you
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: slid right there and you saw the guy catch the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: ball with his foot nowhere near the back and just
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: get up. I'm gonna go on the dug out. Yeah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I mean that feel bad for yourself, man, nobody feels
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: bad for you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: It's a tough league and he's got he's gotta be better.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: And I think the message was definitely sent.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: M gosh, there's a lot of things here to unravel.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he got sent down because of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: this play. It just didn't look good. I think he was.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you how many guys make mistakes all
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the time, So to say, yeah, he made a mental mistake,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I mean Scott Todd. I'm sure when you you know, Scott,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: when you're playing Tittally winks she forgot how to play,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and Todd it, I'm sure once or twice you forgot
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: how to how many outs there were on the bases
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and did something you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Know, took off or where people make mistakes. To me,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: it was just I don't know, you just assume you're
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: out because you slide.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's the big leagues, and I think sometimes when you're
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: in the big leagues, you just like, oh, I'm out.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And he made a mistake. And I don't know that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: why he got sent down, But I don't know.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It stinks. It's a bad look the twins. He to
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: do something.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: So was he the was he the sacrificial sacrifice to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the gods baseball gods?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Maybe?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But I hope it doesn't affect, you know, us being
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: able to get Hamilton ticket.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. That's when Manuel Miranda, creator of
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Hamilton's cousin and Miranda's good. Dude is a nice guy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I good interview. You know, he's had some ups and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: downs here. He wasn't hitting. Like I mentioned, it's early
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: in the season, but also aj, I mean, the Twins
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: are five and eleven, a half game up on the
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: White Sox who are four and eleven, and then there's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the rest of the division in front of them that
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: looks pretty good, which is what we expected, right The Tigers,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the Guardians, the Royals, none of them are running away
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to start the year like they're all off to okay starts.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But if you're Minnesota, you're five and eleven already. Last
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: year you had an epic collapse twelve and twenty seven
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: after blowing eight. You know what, I think Fangrafts called
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: ninety two percent chance of making the playoffs at that
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: point in the season, and Ken Rosenthal covered this, I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: think a little bit unfair territory and really alluded to
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: his article talking about managers on the hot seat. Something's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: got to change there. And I don't know if Fitzroco's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: fault because he's dealing with what he's got, but there's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: been stillness with the Do you think that the team
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: looks at what's gone on over the past couple of years,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: including the collapse, and then the same thing, the same
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: team rolling out here for the next year, and it
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: hurts their chances and the vibes in the clubhouse of
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: a team that fell apart and nothing changed.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's why this was an important move for them.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I think if you talk to Twins fans, they'll say, man,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Roco is always positive, always positive. And listen, we all
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: as a former player, you love a positive manager, right,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You're like always got my back, this and that. But
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: there's got to be a chance where, by the way,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: can we change Ken's little thing to the picture of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: him and as the fake toy thing. While I'm talking related,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: but the the Twins fans that I know, because I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: still have friends up there and saying, man, we need
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna get a little bit, you know, into
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: them a little bit every once in a while and
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: everything is not always hunky dor And is Rocko on
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the hot seat? I think he's got to be a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: little bit because of the collapse and then the way
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: they started, because again going into this season, if you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: looked at the projected standings, they were supposed to win
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the division. They're five and eleven. So you say it
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't one year doesn't carry over the next year. But
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: so far, the end of twenty four looks like it's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: carried into the beginning of twenty five. And I know
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: they have some injuries Royce Lewis and some other guys,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: but still you think this team should be better.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pablo Lopez is out, they're missing guys.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Agreed, there's nothing to do with It's just that's central
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: just like kind of dody dody, don't like.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: There's a good team.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I like the Tigers and the Royals. I like a lot.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: The Guardians are going to be there.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I think the Twins are the fourth place team. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: felt really confident about that heading into the year.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: They just don't do it for us right now, No,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: for everybody. It's just like going through the motions kind
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: of deal.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Injuries do suck. Marcus Stroman got smashed on Friday, didn't
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: get out of the first inning aj and then goes
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: on the il with knee inflammation. So there's another starter
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: down for the Yankees, and he does not look good.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: He's got about eleven and a half right to start
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the year. That h's some imaging, saw some inflammation, so
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: he hits the shelf. That's no coal, that's no heel.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Obviously Stroman, who many Yankee fans don't want to see
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: right now. But maybe he was really hurt and he'll
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: get healthy again, So they're missing a lotch Schmid hasn't
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: come back yet, but I think that's coming back soon.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: So they've got Freedom rodin And if you're a Yanks fan,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you're like, hey, Yanks, good job on signing up Max Freed,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: because he looks stupid good right now and they'd be
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: in a bad spot without him. Offense is clicking. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: what did you think of Stroman on Friday?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: It was rainy, it was nasty out. I don't know.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna defer to Todd on this one because he
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: knows more about the Yankees. I watched some of that game.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Yankee fans were not super happy about that whole performance
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: him on the IL.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I don't know.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't make it out of the first inning,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: so it was maybe hurt it when the rain. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he had something going on before.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Just get healthy. I don't know. I
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: don't I don't really, I just don't know. Hey, I
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: You said I don't know six times in a matter
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: of ten seconds.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: That was good, Craig. Nobody knows.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Nobody knows. That's why I was like, I'll defer to you, dud.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: No, and I think, and I don't have all the
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: answers either, but I think if you think about a
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: knee injury, whether it's the back of neee or frontne
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: you need the back one to push off, you need
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: a front need to stabilize after your pitch. So it
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: kind of looked like he was trying to tinker with
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: the corners a little bit. And he's not overpowering anymore.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: He's not his ball moves, don't get me wrong. But
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: at the same time eighty nine ninety one, it's hard.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: You got to move the ball which way. And he's
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: not Greg Maddox either. It's just a guy right now.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: That was, you know, fighting to stay on the field,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: and you know, as you saw, it didn't work out
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: in the first inning when you have some sort of injury.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: And I'm not making an excuse, but I'm saying, especially
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: with your legs and you're a pitcher, something's got to give,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: and if you're not throwing strike either, it's gonna be
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a hard time for him.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: He's got the vesting option too. If he hits let's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: see one hundred and forty innings this year, obviously we'll
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: see how long he's out. But Yankee, no, it's an
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: extra eighteen million bucks. You know, you know, and they're
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: judging fast. But hey, remember in spring training a couple
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: of guys go down and they're like, oh, good thing,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: we got Strowman in the back end. That's at least
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: a five starter for us. Now they're like, oh, it
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: looks terrible. Get him out of there. Who are the replacements?
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: That's my question. I'm okay with a quick hook on
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: guys that could only have a year left in a deal,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: but are you good with the rest of the rotation
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: or do you need to eat those innings? Because even
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: if you're calling up young guys.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: You're what, someone's got to eat those innings.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And then what happens if they don't and the bullpen
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: works too much? What happens in September.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: When so before that Clarksmith comes out, I think will
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Warren still has a job now. Yeah, yeah, which is
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: in which is good because he you know, he finally
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: got the dub the other day. You know, he looked
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: pretty good. But they're gonna have to claw. They're gonna
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: have to find someone down. I don't know who the
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: answer is right now, but they have to find somebody
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: else that's gonna help them out because injuries, as we know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: they stink and there, so there's gonna be something here
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: and there that's gonna happen. They don't have their big
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: guns that that can come out and just you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Pitch Heel, Garrett Cole, they don't. They don't have those guys.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: And they're another one, just like the Cubs. They might
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: have to go out and fish for somebody and and
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and get another pitcher in there.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: How the hell does Spencer Turnbull not have a job
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: his third thirty one season last year with Philly a
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: two six five ERA, seventeen appearances, seven of them starts,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and I know he's had his fair share of injuries.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Remember they booted him out of the rotation and back
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: into the bullpen, and then he got hurt with the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: lad injury. After that, he looked fire to start the year.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I mean a j is he asking for fifteen million dollars? Like,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: how does the team not to sign someone?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Like, come up, you should be his agent, Scott, because
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you have been on him for like a month now,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: so you should definitely not.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just pointing him out.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And you said Spencer, you have Spencer said Spencer Turnbull
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a lot, which is great.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: He's a great he had a great year last year.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: The funniest thing I saw this weekend from Yankee fans
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: was Carlos Rodan went out and pitched like ninety two
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: great pitches and then he has like eight bad ones,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and everyone's like, how does Carlos rd on through ninety
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: two great pitches and eight where he gives up like
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: three homers. It's like the biggest puzzle of all time, Like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Carlos are not looks like a Cy Young winning. Then
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: for some reason, those three pitches they all get hit
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: for homers. That's what I picked from this weekend. That's
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: what for the Yankee fans. It was kind of funny.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Hmm, well, you know we're up here.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: We always find the negative.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the way we're funny.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: It was all over Twitter. It was like Carlos Rdan
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: looks like a Cy Young for ninety pitches. Ain't those
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: eight and three homers are hit?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: What?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: What changes?
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. Those those those bad ones. You know
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: you're hoping they missed barrel, but that with him sometimes
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: they app murdered, crushed the ball.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Excuse me?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the Yankees are hitting, so they're okay right now,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: They're they're treading water. I'm just worried about multiple rotations
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: in that division. All right, let's slap. First off, we
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: didn't have time for everything from the weekend, but Elie
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: de la Cruz on his switch hitting Bibblehead Night where
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: those things were selling like hotcakes online. Later on Grand Slam,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Hi? One to wait?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: How bad?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I thought it was Pop f Live. I forgot forgot
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: what stadium we're at. I've never played there.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: The small park. It works, it works sometimes in your favor.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: That's cool though, if you go to a game like
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: your kid and and you're going to your first game
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and you get a cool hand out and then the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: dude and then the dude, Yeah like that, that's awesome. Obviously,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Otani did it on his bibble the other day, where
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: he had.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: The Bible head day bibleheadays, have you.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Of course, I don't know, I don't know. I don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: remember for you.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, Dicky trying to sneak the knuckleball
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: by the rat and it didn't work.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Before he goes on when you faced, all right, you
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: know the old saying, knuckleball, if it's high, let us five,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: it's low, let go. I did the opposite with him,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: because he threw it harder than Tim Wakefield. He threw
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it like ten miles faster.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: He threw like eighty five knuckleball fall.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: No, but you know, you know what I'm saying. If
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: it was I let it go. If it was low,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: it stayed right up on the knees. You could scoop
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: that jelly and just kick one out of there.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: But whatever agreed, agreed, I let it fly low, let
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: it go.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: I had. I had a couple of homers off him too.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got him, all right, So you guys,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: are you guys actually helped to retire knuckleballers because we
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: really barely get him at we got I mean, you
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: don't see many.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Well I retired, That's why I retired.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, they got rid of the knuckles. You're like, all right,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I'm done. Cal Riley, by the way, homer in three
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: straight games now and happened to get himself a little
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: for a little torpedo bat. So that's a fun story
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: to follow.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: That the other like one handed, same thing.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: It was low got down to a need on what
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: it was that the change up, split change or whatever
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: That was a nice I mean epic home runs.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I love those, and they need it.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: They got a hit.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I mentioned this for a second earlier,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: but a j I think this is actually a huge
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: underrated signing. Jose Kintana, I believe got overlooked. Brewers pick
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: him up. His debut against the Diamondbacks, A very good
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: offense was that Friday seven shutty, four hits, no walks.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Two K's classic Quintana performance. And they've they've watched him
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: burn them for years. They're like, enough, uncle, we're done,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: join us.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: My boy Q still doing it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: One of the happiest guys you'll ever be around your life,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: one of the happiest dudes of all time.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Gray fella.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Just happy that he's still pitching, and he has great
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: numbers in Milwaukee, so check them out.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: So I actually wore the starter jacket today, quick and fresh.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Hopefully you won't need that for long. We'll get weather.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: It's gonna get one, but.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to show it off, just out like that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know why you had to do that. Bring it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: That's how I love. Yeah, it's a sweet jacket though.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Do you see the color pop? That's nice.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: It's like game used.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good job, Homage starter jackets. You can get them online.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Homage dot Com slash fil Territory used the code foul
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: territory for twenty percent off. I just got some other
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: shirts in my order too, so I will bring those
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: down to Florida so I can sit next to AJ
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: and he can see them in person. They're they're coming
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Nice. Nice, bring them on down because the weather here
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: is perfect. Trust me. I was sitting in a blind
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: this morning.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: It was sixty degrees and when we sat down, and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: when I got up it was eighty degrees. It was
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: perfect weather, perfect, perfect turkey hunting weather.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: up next. We got a pretty loaded schedule for you
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  Speaker 2: on Mondays, so Fair Territory is already out. If you
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  Speaker 2: three thirty Eastern time, and then six forty first pitch
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  Speaker 2: for Paul Skians and the Pirates against the Washington Nationals. Man,
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  Speaker 2: Pirate's got to get going. Nationals still have a year,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like with their fan base aj of time
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  Speaker 2: before they're going to start to get a little bit nig.
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  Speaker 2: But Pirates fans are losing their shit right now.
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  Speaker 3: Pirates fans have lost it. Nationals, yeah, you're right, they
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  Speaker 3: might have one more year, but yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh needs to get going because the NL Central
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  Speaker 2: should be a little bit better this year. Cubs look
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  Speaker 2: like they'll be better, right, Red should be I think
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  Speaker 2: a little bit better. Yeah, Brewers should be in a
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  Speaker 2: similar range. Cardinals are not bad. I've been saying this,
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  Speaker 2: This is not a bad team. No, it wasn't like
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  Speaker 2: a disaster team last year, and they fell off more
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  Speaker 2: towards the end of the year. But like they do
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  Speaker 2: have some fun emerging young players. They're not bad, Like
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  Speaker 2: they might be a five hundred team. So then you're
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  Speaker 2: looking around in the division. You're like, who am I
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  Speaker 2: picking on? Who do the Pirates pick on?
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  Speaker 5: Saint Louis? I'm not sure that's what.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have a Rockies. They don't have a Marlands
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  Speaker 2: in Nashville. I mean, yeah, Marland's and National Yeah, aj
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  Speaker 2: they don't have got a hit what the White Sox.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's going to be a bad,
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  Speaker 2: bad team, I think it might be them.
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  Speaker 3: What do they say? If you don't know who it is,
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  Speaker 3: it's usually you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Oh, I forgot one show too, May Day,
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  Speaker 2: of those, there it is we didn't forget about you,
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  Speaker 2: Trevor so Dodgers Territory Now ATCHI three point thirty May
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  Speaker 2: Day four playback at six forty, Lance Brasdowski and JJ
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  Speaker 2: Cooper will join me, maybe some others as well, to
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  Speaker 2: watch game, so we'll be hanging with you the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the day. There's the watch party on the way out,
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  Speaker 2: all right, AJ keep it warm down there, coming back
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