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Jaguars Happy Hour | Week 8 Takeaways, Injuries & the Trade Deadline · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Victory Monday, November 2nd.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now.
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  Speaker 2: Who was offered the Colts and 34 points, but didn't
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  Speaker 1: would ever change hands. The National Football League has a
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  Speaker 1: strict no-betting policy. Jaguars don't gamble.
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  Speaker 1: Beat the Ravens. Kainani Stevens. Terrible.
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  Speaker 4: You're trying to get me in trouble. Listen to the
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  Speaker 4: disclaimer always, kids. I'm Kainani Stevens. Welcome into Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 2: And happy Victory Monday.
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  Speaker 4: It's always a good day in Jacksonville when the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: win on Sunday, because Monday... You know, the sun shines
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  Speaker 4: a little brighter, your coffee tastes a little better. Everything's
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  Speaker 4: better on a victory Monday. We have a lot coming
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  Speaker 4: up today. presented by Deep Eddy Vodka, handcrafted with real fruit,
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  Speaker 4: the proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's Monday, November 2nd,
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  Speaker 4: November already, and home sweet home. The Jaguars were away
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  Speaker 4: for five weeks. They finally came back to Everbank Stadium,
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  Speaker 4: and they got another dominant win. It's one of several
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  Speaker 4: in a row here. They've been playing outstanding at home,
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  Speaker 4: and it was a huge win, very decisive over the Colts,
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  Speaker 4: but also a huge loss because Devon Hamilton injured in
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  Speaker 4: that game and now likely to be out for the season.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll talk about that and what that means for
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  Speaker 4: the team going forward. We will keep it real as always.
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  Speaker 4: and answer your fan questions, some of them having to
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  Speaker 4: do with some of the injuries suffered in that game.
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  Speaker 4: Pete Prisco joining us along with former Jaguars defensive end
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  Speaker 4: Austin Lane. You guys, it was nice to be home
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  Speaker 4: and nice to get that win, but not to start
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  Speaker 4: on a full downer. That loss of Devon Hamilton is
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  Speaker 4: going to feel huge going forward for the rest of
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  Speaker 4: the season. That news coming out today that it was
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  Speaker 4: a quad injury and he's going to undergo surgery and
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  Speaker 4: be out for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, way to start a downer. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: It just like kind of just came out today.
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  Speaker 1: You have to start there.
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  Speaker 5: Pete wants to talk about Tune, I know. No, but
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  Speaker 5: you have to start there because it does mean that much, right? And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we talked about it many times on this show.
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  Speaker 5: He really, I feel like, is kind of the heart
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  Speaker 5: and soul, a little bit of that defense. Obviously, all
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  Speaker 5: his teammates speak his praises. And you knew it was bad, right?
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  Speaker 5: I was at the game in the stands, and I
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  Speaker 5: thought it was going to be a knee. ends up
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  Speaker 5: being a quad but nevertheless out for the season and
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  Speaker 5: listen you talk about this Jaguars identity they always preach
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  Speaker 5: on stopping the run first stopping the run first and
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  Speaker 5: and they they dedicate a lot of resources sometimes to
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  Speaker 5: that maybe even more than getting after the quarterback it
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  Speaker 5: would appear sometimes well you just lost really your your
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  Speaker 5: captain in terms of stopping the run I feel like
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  Speaker 5: in Devon Hamilton so I think it's time to assess
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  Speaker 5: now and see what you got and see if you
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  Speaker 5: have to make a move Pete Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: Look, he's the reason that teams don't run on him, basically. Look,
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  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker and Josh Hines, they're good run players too,
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  Speaker 1: but that guy's special. I mean, he is special. He
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  Speaker 1: might be the best run-stuffing nose in the league, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why they lead the league in run defense. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they are that good. Now he's not going to be there,
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  Speaker 1: and so what do you do?
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  Speaker 6: Because they don't have that behind him.
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  Speaker 1: There isn't anybody that can fill that role or come
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  Speaker 1: close to filling that role. So they got to, they
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  Speaker 1: got to go explore the market. I don't think there's a,
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  Speaker 1: they were probably going to explore the market anyways. And
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to explore the market harder and
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  Speaker 1: even more intensely because he's gone. And that does, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, that doesn't take him out of getting an
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  Speaker 1: edge guy either. I still think, you know, you got
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  Speaker 1: to make moves. This is your window.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we were talking about this last night on
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  Speaker 6: our show.
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  Speaker 1: They might be the most complete team in the league.
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  Speaker 1: All the other teams that are contenders have issues on
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  Speaker 1: one side of the ball. Now, Jacksonville might not have
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  Speaker 1: an offense as good as Buffalo's or a defense as
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  Speaker 1: good as Denver's, but the combination, they might be the
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  Speaker 1: most complete team in the league. And so you have
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  Speaker 1: to go for it. It's now. And I think they will.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to go explore, you know, making
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  Speaker 1: some deals and go get somebody up there that they
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  Speaker 1: can plug into that role and maybe plug in a
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  Speaker 1: guy who can help rush the passer too.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, I understand that there's no replacing Devon Hamilton, but
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  Speaker 5: spoke with, you know, Foye Aluokun in training camp. He's
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  Speaker 5: a guy I hold in high regard in terms of
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  Speaker 5: the roster just because he's such an intelligent dude and
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  Speaker 5: he knows his players inside and out. And he told me,
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  Speaker 5: I asked him, who's the most underrated player on this
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  Speaker 5: team that doesn't get talked about that should get talked about?
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  Speaker 5: And he said Matt Dickerson. He says Matt Dickerson does
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  Speaker 5: all the dirty work, plays nasty, and does things that
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  Speaker 5: aren't going to show up in the box score. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: can Matt Dickerson replace Devon Hamilton?
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  Speaker 3: No. But can he be a serviceable rotational piece? Possibly.
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  Speaker 5: And then keep in mind who else we're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: albert regis and this more is kind of like a
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  Speaker 5: james gladstone um you know you know tip of the
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  Speaker 5: hat if you will where and i get it he's
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  Speaker 5: been banged up a little bit but you took this
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  Speaker 5: guy in the third round for a reason right and
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  Speaker 5: then usually third round picks they do contribute in some
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  Speaker 5: capacity so do we expect to see albert regis now
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  Speaker 5: because i'm curious to see what he can do i
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  Speaker 5: mean you took him in the third round for a
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  Speaker 5: reason not to say hey don't go after a a
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  Speaker 5: big three technique or a nose tackle but I mean,
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  Speaker 5: as far as those two guys are concerned, Pete, do
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  Speaker 5: you have any faith at all that those two guys
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  Speaker 5: can kind of carry the weight a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: Devon Hamilton?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 7: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're entirely different players. And Dickerson, to me,
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  Speaker 1: you don't remember before the season. I said he's the
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  Speaker 1: most underappreciated player, like the Louis said. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he's played quite to that this year. He hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: as good. I thought he would be better. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's still, you saw some plays from him on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: He made some plays. So there's still some talent in there.
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  Speaker 1: And Regis is not big enough. I mean, he's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's not big enough to handle that. They need a
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  Speaker 1: big body. And I don't know, because where's their big
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  Speaker 1: body now? That's what you look like. You know, Roro,
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  Speaker 1: who's actually playing pretty good football, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Had a pretty good game yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not, that's not what he is.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Armstead's not that.
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  Speaker 5: Armstead's a big body, but that's not his style to
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  Speaker 5: take on double teams.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a long.
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  Speaker 2: It's more of a length.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And plus, he spent a lot of the last couple
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  Speaker 1: weeks getting blocked anyways. I mean, that's what he's been doing.
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  Speaker 1: And his snaps, by the way, got cut down on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: which is what they should have done. I said that
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  Speaker 1: all along. He plays too many snaps. So they don't
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  Speaker 1: really have that big body, but where do you go
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  Speaker 1: get it? That's the question. Where do you get a
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  Speaker 1: giant big body who could stop the run?
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  Speaker 2: And that someone's willing to part with.
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  Speaker 7: True.
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  Speaker 4: Because there's not many people of that size that can
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  Speaker 4: play football on this earth.
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  Speaker 2: And if you have one, you probably don't want to
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  Speaker 2: part with them very easily. Would you call.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles on Jordan Davis?
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  Speaker 3: That was the name I was going to bring up
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting name, Pete, because obviously he's
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  Speaker 5: the big body, right? But he also provides you a
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  Speaker 5: little bit in pass rush, where I don't just necessarily
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  Speaker 5: see him just being a straight-up nose. If you need
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  Speaker 5: some interior rush and you want to move him to
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  Speaker 5: a three and third and longs, I think he's suitable
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  Speaker 5: doing that as well. Because him and Jalen Carter, it's interesting, right?
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  Speaker 5: They're both big-bodied guys, but very athletic and can do
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  Speaker 5: a lot of things, right?
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  Speaker 3: And if I'm Jax, well, that's what I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 5: Like, we have the preconceived notions of what a nose
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  Speaker 5: tackle should be, like, you know, 350, 360, just can't
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  Speaker 5: move them. And, yeah, that's great if you can find, like,
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  Speaker 5: a Vita Vea or somebody, but they don't make Vita
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  Speaker 5: Veas on trees. So if you can get a guy
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  Speaker 5: who can, it's almost like a hybrid, plays the run well,
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  Speaker 5: can play that one or head up, and then can
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  Speaker 5: also play a three technique in the pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all for it. Well, I mean, if you look
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  Speaker 1: at Seattle's defense, and they're really good, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a big body like that in the middle of their defense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Murphy and Williams and Reed and those guys,
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  Speaker 1: they're good and they're athletic and they're strong, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not a power player like in the traditional sense of
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  Speaker 1: a nose or a one technique. So, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be hard to find that guy. Jordan Davis
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  Speaker 1: is one of them. But, you know, are the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: going to get rid of him? Somebody said Jalen Carter.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine in a million years the Jaguars would
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  Speaker 1: be interested in him. All we ever hear about is
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, you know, the character of the player.
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  Speaker 1: And I just don't see as good as he is
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  Speaker 1: at times. And he was great against Jacksonville. He'll disappear
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  Speaker 1: for games. And it's frustrating. So I think Davis would
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  Speaker 1: make more sense. But again, are the Eagles now in
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  Speaker 1: sell mode and are they willing to sell him? And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a Jomo is another name that has been mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not that either. He's not a power inside
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  Speaker 1: player like that.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I think we all want to play mad.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get an edge. Let's get a three technique. Let's
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  Speaker 5: get a nose. Let's get a safety. Like easier said
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  Speaker 5: than done. Got to have your trade partners with how
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  Speaker 5: you guys feel about it. What do you think is
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  Speaker 5: more of the need right now? Do you need interior
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  Speaker 5: or do you need edge more? Like what would you
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  Speaker 5: want to see him attack first?
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  Speaker 1: Up until a week ago, I would have said edge.
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  Speaker 2: I'm switched now, though.
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  Speaker 3: You going into it? Yeah, I'm switched.
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  Speaker 6: They got to get a big body in the middle
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  Speaker 6: of that defense.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who that will be.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk, maybe play GM a little bit later in
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  Speaker 4: the show, see if we can find some options.
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  Speaker 1: I love playing GM. You know that.
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  Speaker 2: Pete wants to be a GM at heart.
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  Speaker 4: But this is a great football team. And let's talk
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  Speaker 4: about some of the stuff that they do very well
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  Speaker 4: and offensively scoring yesterday. When they are at home, they
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  Speaker 4: are pretty much unstoppable. They're 7-0 in their last seven
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  Speaker 4: regular season games here at everbank stadium getting that decisive
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  Speaker 4: victory over the colts and yes i know they're in
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  Speaker 4: the fire sale mode and we all know what we
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  Speaker 4: expected going into that game but finally seeing some explosives
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  Speaker 4: come through and specifically austin the run game came together
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  Speaker 4: let's give uh pete all the credit for the tootin
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  Speaker 4: tootin train we know he knew tootin had it in
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  Speaker 4: him but finally seeing it all come together in not
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  Speaker 4: only the run game but the pass game.
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  Speaker 5: As well Yeah, and to me, it was a long
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  Speaker 5: time coming because he was due, right? He had a
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  Speaker 5: couple that were called back, and during the pregame show,
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  Speaker 5: I actually spoke on this. What would you rather see more,
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  Speaker 5: a Brian Thomas Jr. big day of you know 70
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  Speaker 5: plus yards or a Tootin day of over 100 and
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  Speaker 5: you know we got a Brian Thomas Jr. touchdown but
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  Speaker 5: we definitely had the Tootin day and I look at
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  Speaker 5: it from a defensive coordinator standpoint trying to game plan
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  Speaker 5: for the Jaguars, right? Like Trevor had a very efficient day.
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  Speaker 5: Now he got hit a lot. We'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 5: He got hit a little bit too much for my liking,
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  Speaker 5: but had a very efficient day. But now if I'm
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  Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator, I got to take into account, okay,
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  Speaker 5: now we got to stop this screen game, this short
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  Speaker 5: pass game to Tootin because he's a weapon. You know,
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  Speaker 5: when he's in space and everything, I got to shut
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  Speaker 5: down the run game. It's like Pete said to open
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  Speaker 5: the show. The Jaguars might be the most complete team
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL because they can beat you with three
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  Speaker 5: wide receivers or they can beat you pounding the rock
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  Speaker 5: right now as well. So if I'm a defensive coordinator, man,
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  Speaker 5: I'm having nightmares.
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  Speaker 1: He is the best running back in that draft class.
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  Speaker 1: Think about that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Austin, you remember this. At one point, there was strong consideration,
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  Speaker 1: if they didn't make the move for Travis Hunter, about
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  Speaker 1: picking Ashton Gentry in Jacksonville. And now they end up
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  Speaker 1: with the best back in the draft class who was taken, what,
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  Speaker 1: three rounds, two rounds later. I mean, I love everything
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  Speaker 1: about Tootin'. And I'm going to sit here, and you
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  Speaker 1: guys know that. I've been saying it all along. Look,
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  Speaker 1: the bottom line is he's a.
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  Speaker 6: Lot tougher than I thought he was going to be.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he would be an explosive back in space
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  Speaker 1: and they could use him.
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  Speaker 6: He'd pop off long runs.
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  Speaker 1: But man, he runs a lot tougher than I thought
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  Speaker 1: he would.
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  Speaker 6: You don't get good hits on him. They don't get
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  Speaker 6: square hits on him.
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  Speaker 1: And those backs usually fall forward and they get extra yards.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what he does. to see that run and
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  Speaker 1: then to see that screen pass i i was truly
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  Speaker 1: impressed with what i saw from him and i think
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  Speaker 1: this is only scratching the surface of where he is
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  Speaker 1: going by the.
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  Speaker 5: Way dudes got all the potential in the world and
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  Speaker 5: like listen you saw him break some tackles and lower
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  Speaker 5: his shoulder in college but like you know that's that's
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: different than getting to the league right like i remember
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  Speaker 5: watching isaiah pacheco thinking this guy's gonna be an absolute
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  Speaker 5: monster and injuries played a part to that with isaiah
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  Speaker 5: pacheco but it's like Getting hit in college football and
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  Speaker 5: using your strength is a lot different than the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: So I thought, okay, you're going to have this guy
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  Speaker 5: in two, and he's going to be more of that
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  Speaker 5: speed guy, find the hole, get him in space, cool.
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  Speaker 5: But no, this dude is physical, and he's not afraid
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  Speaker 5: to lower his shoulder. And much to my surprise, which
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  Speaker 5: I didn't expect, NFL tacklers are having problems with him.
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  Speaker 3: They're bouncing off him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Anytime you can combine speed and strength like he can,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the sky's the limit.
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  Speaker 3: Not to not Chris Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 1: Did they say anything today about was Cleveland hurt?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Cleveland got hurt, I think, on the second drive,
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  Speaker 4: and then he went back in on the third drive,
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  Speaker 4: but then came back out after that. It's a lower
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: body injury, as you like to discuss in hockey. Is
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  Speaker 4: that what they said? No, I think it's an ankle
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  Speaker 4: or knee. I'll get the specific for you. I know
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  Speaker 4: it's his foot.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lower body. NHL. Welcome to the NHL.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: So he was dealing with that throughout the game. That's
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  Speaker 4: why he didn't play much after that.
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  Speaker 1: Because I wanted to give a little tip of the
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  Speaker 1: hat to Milam.
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  Speaker 6: Because Milam went in there.
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  Speaker 1: And Ezra had played well the last couple games, much
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  Speaker 1: better than he had at certain stretches during the season.
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  Speaker 1: But Milam went in there and was really good on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: If you watch that run that Tootin has for the
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  Speaker 1: big game, watch what he does on that play. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he did a lot of that, too. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a really good sign going forward. He was physical.
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  Speaker 1: He got after it. Parker getting after it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's getting after it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not saying you replace him, but just
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  Speaker 6: take it.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're going to run it again, but if
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  Speaker 1: you see it from behind, it's really an impressive physical presence.
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  Speaker 1: He was physical. You know, that's something that sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: don't get that from that offensive line. Even though they
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  Speaker 1: played better, they were physical.
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  Speaker 5: There's the Chris Rodriguez touchdown. And can I go out
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  Speaker 5: here and put a little caveat real quick? So I'm
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: in the stands because, I mean, I can't be in
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  Speaker 5: the press box. I got to be with the people
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: and the energy and feel it.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Did they kick you out, Austin? Is that what happened?
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Too much yelling? Wasn't following the rules?
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: Hey, Kai, no comment.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Wasn't following the rules, were we?
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: Might have stole too many egg rolls from up there,
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: but no. Can I just put a caveat to all
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: the fans? A lot of people watch the show, get
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: a lot of compliments.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: When Chris Rodriguez scores the touchdown and some random fan
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: comes up to me and goes, that's right, Lane. Put
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: that right in Pete Prisco's face. Hey, we're on the
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: same team. I understand that Tootin is the bell cow.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: He's the stirrer that stirs the drink. He's the straw
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: that stirs the drink. I understand that. It's more than
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: just good fun. I'm not campaigning for Chris Rodriguez to
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: get the lion's share of the reps. I just want
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: to put that out there for the fan base because
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: there seems to be a civil war that's happening right
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: now when I go to these games that I don't
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: want to be a part of.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: So just put that out there for everybody.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. That means they're listening to the show and
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: listening to everything we say. And by the way, that fan,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: you're entitled to your wrong opinion just like Austin is.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: How did I know that was going to be a
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: pizza opinion?
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: It was a great day running and a great day
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: passing as well.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I think they had.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: 11 different people catching passes from Trevor Lawrence or 10
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: different people because he had 10 completions.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting, by the way.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting. When's the first complaining coming? We're not seeing volume.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: We're not seeing catches. We're not seeing touchdowns.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think there was a move yesterday that
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: might show that something might be up.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: In terms of wide receivers.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Ah, yes.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about special teams and who's been returning punts.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: We're going to hit a break really quickly here.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: That is really dumb, by the way. Can I already
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: chime in on that?
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked you think that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: We're going to talk exactly about that when we come
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: back after this break.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: So far, this is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Home Loans.
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: I've said it before. I think it's just a part
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: of my growth and learning and growing. I've learned a lot.
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: you know, from our staff. I think the way I
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: prepare is just completely different than I used to. And
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: that's just from learning of what works for me. The
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: staff has helped me a lot in that process of
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: how you prepare, you know, how you study the game plan,
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: why we're doing certain things. And I think I'm just
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: really in tune to that. So it's helped me a
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: lot pre-snap. It's helped me make better decisions. I think
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: our guys are playing really good on the perimeter, you know,
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: up front. We're running the ball great. Our line's playing good.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Really well.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of factors into that, to be honest,
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: but I do think I'm playing the most consistent I've
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: played in my career for sure.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Welcome back into happy hour.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: We're going to talk about our player of the game
• 16:41
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• 16:44
  Speaker 4: We've already talked about Tootin. You could certainly say he
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: was the player of the day. I'm also going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: give you Trevor Lawrence because he's playing his best football
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: right now and he's doing it on limited opportunities. 10
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: of 14, 210 yards, three touchdowns, 153.3 rating. Pete this
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: stretch he's been on I know we've talked about it's
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: almost become expected of him and it's so nice to
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: see him get to this point we knew he was
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: capable we see him make these throws but to now
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: be doing it every single week and be as consistent
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: as he can be against some good teams I mean
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: the Colts are what they are right now but against
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: other good teams to see him at that level Pete
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: this is what they need and I'm sure is part
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: of why you expect them to be in their Super
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Bowl window Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They have the guy. I mean, this is the guy.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. The guy you saw earlier
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: in his career that was kind of feeling his way,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: learning offenses, dealing with bad head coaches like Urban Meyer,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that guy's gone. This guy plays with confidence. He goes
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: through his progressions. He gets through his reads. And I
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: think Liam Cohn... You know, for all the talk and
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: all we hear all over this league is Ben Johnson,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. And Ben Johnson is fantastic.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. But Liam Cohn deserves his credit, too.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohn is outstanding calling plays. I mean, he is
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: so good at what he does. And I'm going to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: use a couple examples. They brought Milam into the game
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: as the extra offensive lineman when he wasn't in for Cleveland.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: They put Strange in the backfield and made it look
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like it was going to be a power lead run.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: He was going to be the lead blocker, which he's
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: done a lot of.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: He sneaks through the line, gets into the flat, I mean,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: into the pattern. He's wide open, nobody there. He had some,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it's a big play. Play design made that such an
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: easy play for Trevor Lawrence. The second play was the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: tight end leak for Borkature for the touchdowns. Now, that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was made a little harder than it should have been.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bearing down on him.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in large part because they asked... I think
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: it was... Who was it? Oh, it was Strange. It
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was Strange, and I don't know if he was too... Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it was... That's a hard block if you're asking him
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: because Borgature... is leaving that space to leak out. So
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: he's not going to block him unless Borkature was supposed
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to get hands on him. I'm trying to remember.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like Strange's alignment's a little too wide.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Who's to the left?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Or, Austin, Borkature, sometimes you get your hands on that
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: guy before you leak out. but i'm trying he does
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: nothing of that sort yeah so he might have been
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a little too antsy to get out or i mean
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you're right the alignment was too wide because there's no
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: way in hell that strange can make that block.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: But also p if you look at this play it's
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: weird because it's a it's a boot right so trevor
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: lawrence is supposed to run to his right and keep
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: on running to his right, and he can't. And then
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: he finds Borkature. So it made me realize, like, is
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: this even a design play to Borkature or did Trevor
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: just stop and see it?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Because what I thought.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, that's a design play.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody runs, what do they call that, Y leak or
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: whatever it is.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Okay.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Every team runs that play. And it works every single
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: time every team runs it, by the way.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. Then maybe it's on Britain.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: But I think Borkature, you know, sometimes that tight end
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that leaks kind of blocks a little bit and then
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: takes his time and then leaks out. I don't know
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: how they planned on running that because the way they
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: ran it, he probably should have got hands. If we
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: look at it, he blocks down, and there's no need
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: for that. He probably needs to get hands on that
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: end and then leak out because I think you're asking
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of Strange to make that block on the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: defensive end, but Trevor made a great play.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: That's a great play.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. And he was in the pocket getting harassed all day.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: So for him to complete that and just be as
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: unbothered as he was, give credit to the O-line for
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: run blocking. They did amazing yesterday. But Pete, where are
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: the issues with the pass block? Because I felt Trevor
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: was getting hit a little too much for anybody's liking.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Well, Van Lannen got beat on the one sack. He
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: just got, that guy just blew by him. The other sack,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: there were two, right?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yes, this is the sack fumble that I'm talking about.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just, he comes underneath him, and he had,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know, it was just a bad set. If you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: look at it, he sets too wide, and the guy, like,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: he's lunging at him. You can't do that. Let him come.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I think he lunged at him.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Especially with the chipper, too.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Well, especially with the chipper, too, as well, because they
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: had a tight end chip on that, so he was
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: delayed in his rush. So if you're Cole Van Lannen,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: and you have that chipper to your side, the last
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: thing you can do is give up, you know, a
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: rush to the inside.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: And it's exactly what he does there. So kind of
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: have to know and then.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: The other one was more of a coverage sack because
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: i thought he kind of held it a little bit
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: um if you go back i do we have that
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: second sack because i think i watched it today i
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: thought he held it a little bit and that one
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: he kind of came.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Underneath they didn't squeeze it and he came.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: In between them but but i'll tell you one thing
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: about their protection you know who was really good walker
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: little you're damn right he was yeah That's two games
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in a row. He has been outstanding both in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: run game and in protection.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Who the hell is in that uniform?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: That's what I want to know.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because it seemed like everybody else kind of had
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: their moments. Like even Pregnan had a couple moments where.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: he kind of got beaten, put on skates a little bit.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm little, he was pretty, he was pretty solid.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And I thought when my lemon and he did a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: nice job and Van Lannen had some problems, but if
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I had the rank them as how well they played,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: number one, it would have been little. Number two probably
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: would have been Milam slash Hainsey in that group. Number
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: three would have been for, for Van Landen. Pregnant was
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the worst of them.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And Pregnant's problem. And I love him. I think he's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: going to be a really good player. at oregon if
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you got that big body on somebody.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: That was all i needed the.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Play was over yeah in the nfl you get that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: big body on somebody he doesn't finish he's gotta finish
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: he's a mauling big physical guy he's gotta.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Finish is that a drive thing pete you can coach
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: that i would imagine because he has the physical ability
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: it's just having that austin having that ability to continue
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: through and it's same as defensive end like never giving
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: up but just having that resilience.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah it's about technique there's one where he got burnt
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: on really a counter move um and that's thing in
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: college like okay if if you wash somebody down usually
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: that's game over right with your size and athleticism and
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: speed um you're good right because college you can get
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: by with a little more of you know it's not
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: so much hand placement and this is what i learned
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: as a pass rusher in the nfl it is it
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: is so minute in the details that go into your
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: hand placement into your footwork You saw that yesterday with
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Pregnan where there was one play where he feels like
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: he has the guy beat.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: He's washing him down.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was a spin move or just
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: like a counter club, but the guy counters him and
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Pregnan's not ready for it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: And then he kind of gets a free lick on
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: And it just comes with time and getting your reps.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Austin, is that something where, you know... I mean, he's
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: a half season into this, right? It's a rookie year,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: and I don't think any of us expected him to
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: be starting at this point. Pleasant surprise, but at a
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: certain point, you're not a rookie anymore. You need to
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: understand what is expected of you. Is this something in
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: a couple weeks where it's like, okay, he understands.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: It a little bit more? You have to do it
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: in live action, I would imagine.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: To get to that point.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: No, it has to be live action.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Listen, if this is going to be a thing that
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: gets put on film and doesn't get corrected, and now
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: teams are starting to expose this a little bit, then yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I'd be worried. But listen, this is a rookie. Wasn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: probably expecting to start from the get-go. I'm not too
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: worried about it right now. I like to feel like
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: the more live reps that he gets in meaningful ballgames,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: the better he's going to adapt to it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: You're talking about Pregnant?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Pregnant, yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, again, he doesn't finish. And the other thing he
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: does is when he starts getting beat, instead of trying
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to reset or get back underneath the guy, he starts grabbing.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And he gets those holding penalties. And they're little... You
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: can see the physical talent. It's just the little things
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that he needs to do. And you know this, Austin.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: In college, if the play's going away from him and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he gets on a guy away from the play, that
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: usually means that guy's not in the play.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: But in the NFL, they come off of you.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: If you don't stay on them, and they can come
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: down the line and get back in on the play.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So he's got to do a better job of that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: But I think as a whole, Walker Little... I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: understand where that has come from, but they got to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: be thrilled with that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Very pleasant surprise for the next man up in that rotation.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: We're going to take another break. Coming back, we will
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: answer some of your fan questions on Jaguars Happy Hour
• 25:38
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• 25:46
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• 26:02
  Speaker 4: they're not going to get that this week because they
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: scored all touchdowns instead of field goals. It's a good
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: place to be. I think you get some cheese curds
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: out of it, if I do recall. That's available for
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: the fans. But, yeah, they got to get something every
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: time they score over 35 because it feels like every
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: time they are home. They get that home cooking going,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: and they are rolling right now at Everbank Stadium.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: Listen, I'd want to tell Sean Conner and Mark Lamping
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: how to do their jobs and everything, but can we
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: delay the construction in the new stadium? Because I don't
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: want this team to go to Orlando next year. With
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: the way they're playing at home, it's unreal.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Maybe it is the construction that's working so well.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but this team is, I mean, once again,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: they haven't played, a couple games have been questionable on
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the road, but one thing's for sure, when they play
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: at home, They're almost unbeatable so far, it looks like.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Blowouts.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Well, they also lost a home game in London. Oh, yeah,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that's right. They only count those when they want to
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: count them, I guess, right? I mean, they're technically a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: home game.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: And they played their best against the Eagles either, which
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: was a huge home game as well, even though I
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: heard a lot of let's go Eagles chants, but it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: all good.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Or let's go birds chance, but that was.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: A home game. Cause you know, they keep putting all
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: these numbers up about their home games. Well, home games
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: are in London. They, they gotta, you know, say in.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: That state, I'm talking about Jacksonville, not going to pull
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: in Duval County, not going.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: To pull the Wolverine pizza eyes. Like if you're to
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: count home games, count all the home games. I got you.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Right. I will say this, this, you can't deny they're
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: number one, the league and scoring differential.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: They sure are.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Cause these are, uh, blowouts in every single home game
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: in Everbank stadium. They've won all of those by I
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: think an average of 28 points or something like that
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: with the last seven that they've had, all of those
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: will just go back to the chargers game, the Jets Titans,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: like all those blowout games they had right in a
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: row to end last season.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It's funny though.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You know what? People are starting to jump on board.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I'm fine.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Plenty of room. You're starting to hear it. You're starting
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to hear it.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm here for it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And, and, and quite frankly, it's, I really believe they
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: should be undefeated.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Should, but we know how the NFL is and there's
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Eagles game, they usually should have lost like, yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But they kind of slog through that. They're better. They're
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: better than Denver and they're better than Houston. Sure. They're
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: better than both those teams.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, when you look at this, this, they
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: should be undefeated. Not everybody be talking about them.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: This, this benefits them though. I still would argue again.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: They don't, they're not loaded with stars. again with this?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: They're not loaded with stars. And so that hurts you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And We're going to get Pete back in, but they
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: are not loaded with stars.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Pete enjoys everyone coming up with, you know, Austin,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: you know, too, you watch some of the national stuff
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: and they'll say stuff that we've been saying for like
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: a year and a half.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, Trevor Lawrence is very good.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, so happy for you to join us.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: We've been waiting for you as, as I've got, I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: not going to call him out, but like somebody today
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, Jake was actually be super welcome. You
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: don't say a complete team. You don't say a team
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: that can run the football and pass the football. You
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: don't say Trevor Lawrence franchise quarterback. I could have swore
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: the MVP last year, you know, like being in the
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: running was good, but maybe not. So listen, it is
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: what it is, right? And at the end of the day,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: no matter how long it takes for you to get there,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: eventually everyone's going to get there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Or not, and you just beat them and then it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: a surprise.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Or don't, but like eventually there's going to be the
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: product where it's like you can't deny it anymore. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I think we're getting to the point now where it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: undeniable you've got to take this team seriously.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: We take this team seriously.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And I was saying, for some reason I keep going out.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I have no idea why. But, you know, I was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: saying that now it's been that way forever in Jacksonville.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And you know that, Austin. You played there. And you know, Kai,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: nobody pays attention to them until they have to.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that little team down there, you know, oh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that little, oh, wait, they might actually be pretty good.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And so I don't think they're quite getting the attention
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: they deserve. I go back to the Bears. I mean, Chicago,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. And nobody's saying the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: same stuff about Liam Cohn. He's doing every bit as
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: good as Ben Johnson is. You know, they're one of
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: two teams that are in the top 10 in both
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: scoring offense and scoring defense. The other one's the 49ers.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: We hear about all the time pretty good yeah right.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: That's high praise so again keep winning keep stacking them
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and they'll start getting their attention but it is starting
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to get out there now a little bit people are
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: paying attention pete let me ask.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: You i mean let me ask obviously every single win
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: as they they pile up is only going to help
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: you out but like what game do you feel like
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that's remaining on the schedule is that game we can
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: go out there and say I mean, there's nothing left
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: to discuss. Because I want to say it was the
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Ravens game, but now obviously, you know, it's going to
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: be with this game.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: That's not now.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: It's Lamar Jackson's out and Huntley. I don't think it's,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: you know, like... You know, it's still a hard game
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: to play. It's still Derrick Henry.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: It's still in Baltimore.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: It's still, you know, an early week of practice and everything,
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: all that, but nobody cares. So, like, my question to
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: you is, what's the game where you can point to
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: and be like, okay, you guys better all come on
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: board now or else we're.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Leaving the station.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know, let's go through Chicago because Chicago, yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: It's got to be.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: It has to be Chicago. It's Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen and Ben Johnson. There you go.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Head to head.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: By the way, the schedule, we did the schedule before
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the season. We looked at it and we said, oh.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Now you look, the Baltimore game has entirely changed. And
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: by the way, they weren't playing very good with him.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: The rest of them around them aren't playing very well either.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So that's not a great team right now. Then after that,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys all of a sudden don't look as daunting
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: at home either. The Giants are probably better than we
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to be. Yeah. Agreed. But do
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you have the schedule right in front of you, Kai?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Because we can look at it, and the Texans aren't
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: nearly as good as anybody thought they were going to be.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: And even if you beat them, even though they're a
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: rival and a divisional opponent and everything, I don't think
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: people are going to be like, oh, see, the Jaguars
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: are free.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to beat the Houston Texans.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: So the next three, they go on Thursday this week.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: They're at Baltimore. Then they go on the road to Tennessee.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Then they're on the road to New York to play
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the Giants. And then they're back home. back home again
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: to play the Titans. So you've got Titans two and
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: three weeks there.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: They should rip through that at 4-0.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm backtracking a bit because I thought they were
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: going to have a worse record than they did last year.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: And the way they're rolling through this right now and
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: the way that things are timing up with certain teams,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: like they might.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: The Giants game will be tough, and they'll have moments
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: at Tennessee like they always do when they play in
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Tennessee where they don't look great, but they'll find a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: way to win that game. But let's go through. They'll
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: win that game, they'll win that game, they'll win that game,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: they'll win that game. Then you get to what? Is
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: that the Steelers next?
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: No, it's they go on the road to the Bears
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: for the first week of December.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: That could be an enormous game for both teams.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: It could be.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe get a little snow by the lake.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: You could be talking one seed versus one seed potential
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in that game.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they can flex it, but that
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: would be a good night game, too.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: That would be a great game. That would be a
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: great game.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're allowed to do that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's on Fox. They might flex it if
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: they win the next four. Although, again, do you flex
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it when nobody wants to see Jacksonville play?
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: No.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's just the reality of it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: But Chicago alone would draw it. And then if they
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: both have those records, that's my only argument. Young coaching,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Trevor still playing well.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: There's no better matchup.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Two quarterbacks.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: It just depends on who's scheduled in that. Like, if Dallas,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: no matter what is scheduled at the Sunday night game
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that week, they wouldn't flex it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Cowboys fans like pain and want to watch their terrible team.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but, I mean, do you want to flex that?
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: It's going to be winter, and it's going to be
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: at night, which will be colder.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I like cold football. Yeah, but they're
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: built to run the football, too, though, right?
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. They're practicing all week for a rain game.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: They're ready to go.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, so then you get to Chicago.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Then we're back for Monday night football against the Steelers.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh. That's better than we thought they were going to be.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: That's the one that's scary.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: That's well, I said, that's when we pick the preseason.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: That's the game that scared me the whole time.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: And then, and then they got the Colts again, right?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Somewhere.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the last game of the season.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: They go on the road to Texas, uh, to the Texans.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: And then the next week they go on the road
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: again and play the Cowboys. That's after Christmas.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And then the Colts on the road.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: And then they come back, play the commanders. And then
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: the Colts on the road is the end of the season.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: They're going to, they're going to end up, they could,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: if they play the way they're capable of playing, uh,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: They have a real shot to end up with the
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: one seed.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: They do. And if they can win against the Ravens,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: get all these AFC wins as well to help them out.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, that Broncos one could be, depending how they
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: end up going around, could hurt them.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That's the problem is when it comes to the end,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: if the Broncos somehow end up with the same record,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: they're going to go back and go. Why did we
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: not give the ball to Tootin when we got inside?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Why didn't we listen to Pete?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: We had the winning formula.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Real quick, what are the last three games of the season? Washington, Indy?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, at the Cowboys after Christmas.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Then they're going to be home hosting the Commanders, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: then they will go on the road to Indianapolis.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: And listen, and we'll see how it all shakes out.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're playing for one seed, you can
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: rest starters, so be it. But I'm always a big fan.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: I'm a big proponent of ending your season on a
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: high note. So if you can go out and win
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: those last three and carry that momentum in the playoffs too,
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I think that means a lot. But once again, if
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: you're playing for a one seed, then maybe you're not
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: even worried about that momentum.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting too, guys, is the AFC playoffs
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: are pretty much decided already. And by that, I mean,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of seeding. The Bills and Patriots,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Steelers and Bengals, because the Browns are
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: going to fall off, I think. And then you have...
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the Broncos, and the Chiefs. That's your seven. I mean,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with the possibility of what?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Cleveland?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I probably like Cleveland better than... Because Vegas... Doesn't Vegas
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: have a shot, too? But I like Cleveland better than Vegas.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're four and four, but that don't.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I like Vegas. I mean, I like Cleveland
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: better than Vegas, I think.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So, but we're eight weeks in now, and we have
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of who the seven teams are
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: going to be. Now, the Texans could rip off... They
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: play the Chargers this week.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: You don't want to throw a dirt on them yet?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: They're 2-5.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: They could. Yeah, I mean, that would be.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I got to say their defense do something, Pete.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. But the Chargers stink. You know, the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Chargers haven't scored a touchdown since week five.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: When do they make a move and let someone go?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: McDaniel will probably be the one that gets let go.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But, you know, the Chargers and the Texans, you've
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: got a winless team against a team that might be
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the biggest disappointment in the league this week, and it
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: looked like on paper it was going to be a
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: good game.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: That game's getting flexed to Nickelodeon.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I say the seven teams are there,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: can you see any of those other teams breaking through?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Other than Cleveland.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously other than what's mentioned, the Jets are 2-6.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: No.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Dolphins 1-6.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: No.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Browns are 5-3. That's probably the only argument.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: The Ravens, you would have if Lamar was going to
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: come back, but they're 4-4 and he's out for the
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: rest of the year.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: So no. Colts, obviously fire sale. Titans 1-7.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: The Raiders 4-4. That's probably your only other. I don't
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: see that, but.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: So it's either the Raiders or the Browns. Do you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: see either one of those teams cracking a seven? I don't. Probably.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I err on the Browns
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: more than I do on the Raiders.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So if the Browns crack the seven, they would be
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: taking probably.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: One of their AFC North. You think the Steelers? It's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: got to be one of those if they make it, right?
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I think that once again, I get because they just,
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: the Titans took them to the wire. I think the
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Bengals are the team to beat in that division.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I do, too.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: I do, too.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: And by the way, they're going to play a game.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: They're going to play my dream game one day where
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: they don't run it once.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: They're close, Pete. Damn, they're close.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Unless it's Joe Burrow running.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: They ran it 16 times on Sunday. And I said
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: on the show last night, I said, that's 16 too many.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Pete, that Buccaneers game must have been your nightmare then
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: because Baker Mayfield didn't throw a pass, correct?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: He did not. And it's the first time since 1974.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And by the way, he did not throw, well, he
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: threw three. He didn't complete any.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: He tried those three.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: He didn't complete any and no passing yards. And he
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't the worst quarterback on the field. Think about that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: for a second.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: That hurts.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: That's not, that's not Michael Penix through four interceptions. It
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was incredible.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: They were playing.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think if the playoffs started today, what seed would
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville be? They would be the, cause they do that.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: It's out there.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: It's a little off because of the, um, the bi-weeks
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: cause they're five and two, obviously the Steelers are six
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: and two bills are six and one.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Broncos are 6-2. Chiefs are 5-2.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're... So the Bills would be the one seed.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars would probably be the four then right now,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: but that'll change because of the bar.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with the Broncos and the tiebreakers. But we'll see.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: That's promising things.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: We are looking towards postseason, but we're not going to
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: get ahead of ourselves. We're going to take another break.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: One week at a time. One game at a time.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: One game at a time.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Every game that's the most important game never never would
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: i do that um we will talk to co-pilot we'll
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: keep it real we'll do all the things stay with
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: us here on jaguars happy hour presented by jet home
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: loans welcome back into jaguars happy hour presented by jet
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: home loans time now to consult co-pilot ai rules the
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: world is brought to you by microsoft so we had
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: to ask because things look good at home Home as
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: in Jacksonville. Do the 2026 Jacksonville Jaguars play well at
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Everbank Stadium? In fact, yes, they do. They've been excellent
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: at Everbank Stadium so far. They are undefeated at home
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: in 2026, 3-0. They've gone 10-1 at Everbank Stadium under
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: head coach Liam Cohen. Other than playoff loss, obviously, to Buffalo.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: This is regular season. They are 10-1. Austin, what was
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the other loss?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Do you remember?
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Ooh.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: No.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: It was Seattle.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: It was. To the Super Bowl champions.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Tight ends had a field day that day. Okay.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: That was the Wingard Bowl.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: That was the Wingard Bowl.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Can you ask Copilot how much it would cost the
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: city if they were to delay the construction of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: new stadium?
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I will not be asking Copilot that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to play at home as much as possible, man,
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: because they play well at home.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: They sure do.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: We got three more. One of them is primetime for
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Monday Night Football. I am looking forward to that. Monday
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Night Football is my personal favorite. um just feels a
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: little special every week we won't be here on a
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: monday unfortunately that means you don't get us but um
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you get a monday night football matchup prime time out of.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It the championship game in that place will be wild too.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I can't wait i can't wait pete late a little
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: late january it's gonna be perfect um let's get to
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: let's what have we not talked about we haven't talked
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: about the defense obviously devon hamilton going on is a
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: huge loss but They were able to, against a Colts
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: team I know, kind of get back into the groove
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: of things.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: What we saw against the Texans was not.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: What we had seen from them through the beginning of
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: the season. They allowed some more explosive runs, not what
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: we expected. Obviously, CJ Stroud had a great day. He's
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: very talented. But wanted the defense to kind of get
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: back to basics, and they were able to do that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: They forced some turnovers.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, against the Colts, I know, but got after the
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: quarterback and got some sacks. And I was happy, Austin,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: to at least see that kind of bounce back. We've
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: seen it on the offense, but from the defense.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was happy to see guys step up
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: that were called upon. Rayon Lane, no relation, by the way,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: but I'll still see at the family reunion.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: You should take it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going to at this rate with that
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: play he had yesterday. But I thought Rayon Lane... Hell
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: of a job, you know, being in the right spot
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: at the right time. Sometimes it's all it takes to
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: play either a cornerback or a safety, right?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: And he made a big play there.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: You know, Pete, I don't know if you saw this
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: on film or not, and, you know, you saw a
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: couple different looks, right, a couple different blitzes and everything,
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: but something that really stood out to me is I
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: feel like they're getting on the line of scrimmage a
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: lot more. They're getting in people's faces a little more, right?
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: They're not playing so far back anymore. And whether, you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: that's whether you're in man, whether you're in zone, but
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: to me... You know, and I think a guy like
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Jarrion Jones, right? You know what type of player he is.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: You know his personality. You know what he's great at.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: He's great at press. He's great at getting in somebody's face,
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: putting his hands into that shoulder pad, and knocking them
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: off their track. And yesterday I saw a little more
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: of that in terms of we're going to be a
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: little more aggressive, whether it's second or third down. It's
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: a pass situation. We'll be a little more aggressive, throw
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: guys off their track a little bit, and then depend
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: on our pass rush or our blitz packages to get home.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't blitz as much on Sunday, I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: didn't think. Which, remember, they got hit by a ton
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of blitzes against the Texans. They had problems getting out
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: of those, and they had busted assignments. So they didn't
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: blitz as much. One thing you noticed on Sunday, too,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter was flipping sides. And he actually went into,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: if you notice, he flipped sides. All year, most of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the year, he's played left corner, right? That's where he's been. Well,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, he was on both sides.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Was he following anybody or was he just playing, do
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you think, just schematically?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: He wasn't following anybody because they don't have anybody that's
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: worth following. But I think they played him. What they
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: did is they put him on one side, let him
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: play man on that side. I still haven't taken the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: total in-depth look on it, see if he went to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the weak side, and then he played on the strong side,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: he played zone on that side. But he played a
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: lot more man, physical man, and flopped and went in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the slot. And he did a lot of things. He's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a really good cover corner. He gave up the one
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in-breaker to Treadwell. Probably should have made a play on
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that ball. You remember when he's trailing in man-to-man coverage?
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: But you get beat sometimes in man.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Coverage, you know?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: It's good to see from the defense.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's great.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Good to see you from Travis Hunter.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be great.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about three-way player Travis Hunter when we come
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: back for the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. Stick
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: with us here on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome to
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. This one presented
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: by Mr.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Chubby's Wings.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Before the game, after the game, and during the game,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: we are going to start with our opening drive for
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: hour two, presented by Target Zero.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Let's get everyone home safely.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Normally I start with all the wonderful statistics from a
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Jaguars win on a victory Monday.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: But unfortunately I have more negative news today. Eric Murray.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Safety, who suffered an elbow injury on the first play
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: of the game against the Colts, is going to be
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: undergoing surgery, and he will miss the remainder of the season.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: This just coming out now.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Obviously, also Liam Cohen confirming that Devon Hamilton has that
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: quad injury. He's also going to be out for the
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: rest of the season. So, Austin, we started the other show.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I felt like a Debbie Downer, but now I'm a
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Debbie Downer again with this because that's not the news
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: you wanted to hear in terms of the secondary as well.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome to Jake's somber hour brought to you by Kai.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, at.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: This point, Kai.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Sad hour continues.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Are we still in first? Are we good? We still
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: in first place in the division?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Apparently, we're still a good team. Okay, I hope so.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: But no, obviously, that's... I mean, that's a loss as well, Pete.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: And that's a big loss, man. You did like the
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: way that Rayon Lane did play and everything. Coming in
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: to fill in for Murray. But yeah, obviously... A guy
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: who I think commands a lot in that secondary, kind
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: of gets guys lined up and everything.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: It's a big one.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: It does sound like Antonio.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Johnson will be back. I mean, they're down guys in
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that secondary. Yeah. Think about that.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: It does sound like Antonio Johnson, who did not play
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: against the Colts, was kind of dealing with an ankle injury.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: They are hoping he will be available on Thursday. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: think it was kind of take this week and use
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: it to get ready for Thursday night football.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: So hopefully he will be back.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: But think about the starting. I mean, OK, once Murray
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: went out, it was Merriweather and Lane. Yep. So Lane
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: was on the team because they thought he was a
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: special teams player, and Merriweather was brought up from the
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: practice squad.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: A couple weeks ago, yeah. Signed to the team.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And by the way, the rookie had a nice sack
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and actually looked explosive in getting.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: It, didn't he? Husky late, yeah.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know the inner workings of the thought process. Obviously,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: he's a draft pick that they feel like, needs more
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: time to be comfortable. Athleticism is not the issue. I'm
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: assuming it's maybe complicated scheme, trying to get in the
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: right place, play that position, and know where he needs
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: to be. Because I know, I can't remember who I
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: was talking to about this, but kind of the juxtaposition
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: of the offense to defense. Offense feels like they give
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: people a little more time to work things out. Some
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: of the younger athletic players, they give them a little
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: more chance to work. On defense, they value more knowing
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: to be in the correct place and kind of the
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: veteran experience to know where they need to be in
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: the scheme. So maybe that's just how, you know, the
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: coordinators kind of go about their rosters, but you have
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: to imagine now they're going to be, their hand is
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: going to be forced somewhat, but Jalen Husky will dress
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: and we'll have to be a part of this mix now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Well, then if that's the case, I'm sorry.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I was going to say lane was fantastic on Sunday.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the interception. He was blitzing.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: He got near the quarterback. He influenced the quarterback. He
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: tackled well, he covered well. And he looked like much
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: more than just a special teams gunner on Sunday. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: he hadn't looked like that on the field up until
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: that point. That was his, by far his best game.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And not just because of the pick six.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think the biggest thing with Husky, cause
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: I've been singing his praises since training camp, like he
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: looks the part, like when you watch him go through
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Joe's and everything, he he's a big dude.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: He's built like a safety.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: So one would assume that, okay, it's supposed to be
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: more of just like a, you know, they call it
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: between the years kind of thing where, whether it's not
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: getting lined up properly, not being in his right zone,
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: just because if we're seeing veterans have problems out there
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: and explosive plays and everything like that, well, then how
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: are we going to expect a rookie to come in
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: and pick up where those veterans left off? So it
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: is probably more of a between-the-ears kind of thing. A
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: mental thing.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: A mental thing between the ears. But then do you
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: simplify it, Pete?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Like, if you have to. Well, if he gets on
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the field, you're going to have to simplify. I think
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: they've simplified it a little bit, even with Merriweather and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Lane on the field. You know, it was supposed to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: be Murray and Antonio Johnson, with Ransaw maybe pushing one
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of them for the job. And now, this past week,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Murray was out, first play. Johnson didn't play, and Ransaw
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: didn't play. And so, you know, it really does become
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a survival test in the NFL. And they've lost their
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: starting left tackle, their best defensive tackle, and now one
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: of their starting safeties. I mean, those are hits. But
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: all you got to do is look across the field
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: on Thursday and think that your hits aren't their hits.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Everyone's dealing with it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: No, it's part of the game.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Or their backup.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: They probably take away their nose tackle, left tackle and
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: safety in order to have Lamar Jackson on the field.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: No, at the end of the day, I mean, it's,
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: you know, death taxes and like, you know, there should
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: be injuries in the NFL.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, you don't get through the season unscathed. It's
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: just a matter of do you have the death to confess?
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: or do you have to make a play you know
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: before the trade deadline and you know we'll see how
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: the secondary shakes out and everything um you know now
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: it gets a little more interesting and i don't know
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: if you explore options there as well but Once again,
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, you just may have to rely on your depth,
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: and this is where drafting, this is where developing comes
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: into play. And I won't say this much about it,
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: and we'll see how it all shakes out with trades
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: and everything. But I do have confidence in terms of
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: players getting developed because we've seen with this Liam Cohen
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: regime and everything, they do a great job of developing players.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Well, in that position, you can see it in this
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: league where young players play at safety. You know, there's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a kid at Miami, Michael Taft, who was drafted, I think,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: in the sixth round. He's starting at safety and making plays.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Rookie out of Texas, good player. You saw it last
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: year with Watts playing as a rookie, good player. I mean,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: you go through the league and you can play that position.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Once you get the mental part of it, and that's
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: the tough part, Once you get that down, like, didn't
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: you think Lane was playing so much faster on Sunday
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: than he had his previous games as a safety? Yeah,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: because he's not thinking as much. Of course.
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: He's also getting the reps going in. I think you
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: can't discount that when you're practicing all week, knowing you're
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: going to play as opposed to getting thrown in there
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: like he did against the Bengals. So I will give
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: him credit fully. And from what we've seen out of him,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: he's been so smart in such a quick study. So
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: having that whole week of prep has been huge.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: You know who was playing a lot faster than we've
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: seen him play so far this year, Pete?
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Branson Combs.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: He was all over the place.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yes. That was a heck of an interception he had
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: on Sunday.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: He was lighting people up on special teams, too. It
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: was like back-to-back punt returns. He was lighting people up.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Making himself known, for sure.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can get in-depth on the defense a
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: little bit because certain, if you saw, and I don't
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: know the exact snap count, but Roro Roro played more snaps,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: many more snaps than Armstead did. I mean, I think
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: it was double, if I'm not mistaken, or close to double,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: which is the way I think it needs to be played.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: He's played better than him.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so actually what was interesting and what is great
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: about the blowout is a lot less snaps for everybody.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: So they did get to rest some people. Only had
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: three people at 100%.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: It was Pregnant, Walker Little, and Ran Lane on defense,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: the only defensive player that played 100 snaps. So Oro
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Oro had 72% of the snaps. That was third. Monteric
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Brown played 89% of the snaps. Armstead only played 33 snaps,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: which was 54% on defense.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think, I mean, it's not a bad thing.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: It's a good thing because him playing less snaps, he
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: can put more effort into the snaps. He's out there
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: at this stage in his career. It's a benefit for
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: both ways.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: But I also feel like he got pulled for one
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: series because there was a play in the backfield that
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: he kind of missed on and whiffed on a little bit.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: And then I feel like they pulled him out right
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: after that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: The other guy's playing better.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: He's playing better.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you play the best player. You don't care
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: where they come from, what they do, how much they make.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: You play the best player. And I think this regime
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: has pretty much said that.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: We saw some more Brian Thomas, defensive end Brian Thomas
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: as well in this game.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, the problem is their best pass rusher is who? Gardeck.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: When you use him that way, yes. He flies around.
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: That's not the way it's supposed to be.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: That is not his main job, I would argue.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: You think he's the best pass rusher, Pete?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: He's the most productive.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, I mean.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: On paper, he shouldn't be, but is he not the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: most productive pass rusher?
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: I think with what they ask him to do, he's
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: productive at what they ask him to do.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: He's around the ball a lot. He's tough. He's physical. Yeah.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, but he also had a night. Trayvon had
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a nice sack on Sunday.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: You know, and he actually used the move, which was amazing.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, I was like and and.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Again, they're good players.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: But they hadn't been playing to what they're supposed to
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: be playing to.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: They'd probably be the first two to tell you that.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: No, I agree with you.
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: Drayvon's getting doubled a lot. He's getting doubled a lot.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Isn't he, like, second most doubles in the league, but
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: he has the most.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting doubled a ton. Well, that means that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Josh Hines-Allen needs to be better.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I thought he was better on Sunday.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: He was better. But, like, and listen.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: I'm not knocking Dennis Gardeck at all because the guy
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: does produce, but I think if you put somebody else–
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: he's always in that wide– I mean, you.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Call it a wide nine.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: He's not a defensive end, but he's an outside linebacker,
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: but he's essentially just like a wide nine. So his
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: only job, if he recognizes it, is just to go
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: as fast as he can towards the quarterback, and I
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: feel like the other responsibility as a defensive line– It's
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: still stop the run first and then get.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: After the quarterback a little bit.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: But on third down, it's not.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: No, on third down, it's not. And that's true.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: But once again, on third down, I feel like they
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: just give Garnett a clear, hey, just use your speed
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: and go.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: And then the other guys are starting to run games
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: and everything like that and waiting for time to develop.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Because he's a little twitchier than the other guys.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Fast twitch. I hear you.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: The twitch.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're back to that again. But I
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: think Hines Allen kind of had one of his better
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: games in recent games. Mm-hmm. On Sunday, so he was
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: much better.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Did they get in the sack or not? Because I
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: don't know if Armstead got it.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, half.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And you know what, though? You know who should have
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: got that sack? And when they go back and reevaluate it,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Aroa Roro got that sack.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: That was his sack.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Whoever celebrates the most gets the credit, Pete. That's how
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: that works.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Interesting note. We were in the press box, and they
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: kept giving stats to.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Wesley Williams number 90 because of the way his jersey
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: was tucked up.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And then about third quarter, they were like, wait, he's
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: not in the game.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: So the stats might get updated at some point because
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: they were given tackle for loss and all this to
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: 90 who wasn't in it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: But it was nice to see a bounce back from them.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: And I know the Colts are where they're at, but
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: just to see them come back to form. And also
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: with that loss of Devon Hamilton to come together a
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: little bit and still find a way to be successful.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: There's more to accomplish, of course.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: And then I think In this Ravens game, because quickly,
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: this is going to be Thursday night before we know it,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: they're going to be going up against who even knows
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: on the offensive line if Baltimore will be able to
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: bring in a quarterback or if they'll still be on
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: their third string. Because that is difficult to plan for
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: when you have no idea who the uh qb is
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: going to be against the team here so all i
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: can say is we're probably going to see a lot
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: of derrick henry which this.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Team is used to seeing and that's what i was
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: going to say i mean if i'm the baltimore offensive
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: coordinator and i might just put a wildcat out there
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: and put derrick henry in shotgun because if if we've
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: been following derrick henry a long time in jacksonville he's
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: had some pretty dang good games against the jaguars right
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: and i get people are saying okay he looks a
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: step slow.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: They say that every time.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Not going to count that guy out against the Jaguars, man.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Never going to.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: So and keep in mind, you're losing probably your best
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: run stopper in Devon Hamilton as well. So it it's
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: not going to be just easy breezy. I feel like
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: in Baltimore, it's going.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: To be the NFL. Yeah, it's the NFL. Of course,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you're on the road on Thursday night on a short week.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I don't care who you're playing. That's a tough game.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Getting to play at home is a huge benefit on
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: a Thursday night just because what goes into the Yes,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: it's a short week.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: We all hear that. But actually being around the team.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: So they were in today. Normally, this is kind of
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: like their half day. They were here practicing, getting back together,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: doing a lot of walkthroughs this week because they try
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: to get the players back in the building, but like
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: not running them as much.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: They just had a game, of course.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Before you know it, Wednesday night, they're flying to Baltimore.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: They're going to be there going through walkthroughs on Thursday
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: morning and then playing Thursday night. So I don't think
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: there was much enjoyment in that Colts victory. It was quick,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: turn on the tape, and then start looking at Ravens
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: stuff already.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: If they win against the Ravens, they'll have an enjoyment
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: on that weekend, though.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like an extra buy.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: It's like a mini buy, yeah.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Austin, was that worth it?
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: I feel like the players hate the fact they have
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: to play on Thursday, but then you get the little
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: extra bye afterwards, so it's kind of like.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Well, no, because I remember the Thursday night games against...
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: That was the Colts we played against one year. We
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: didn't win that game, so it didn't feel like a
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: vacation at all. And that was like my birthday night.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, I had a sack in Angelica. It was
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: great and everything, but yeah, we didn't win, so it
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: didn't feel like a nice extended bye.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Was it home or was it in Indianapolis?
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: It was home. Got to be a captain and everything.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: You're part of the last team that lost to the Colts, right?
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: No, because I think that was 14. So I was
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: here until it would have been 13. So I just
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: missed out on that.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to blame me.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not taking responsibility for that, Pete.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Well, now let's think about it. Now it's another year longer.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: We're going to do it again for another year.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: A shame.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: iPhone 8 was, but by the way, last time the
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: Colts won in Jacksonville, the iPhone 8 was out.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: There were six.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: By the way, I don't give guarantees for the next season,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to guarantee that they lose again in Jacksonville.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: The Colts?
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be in Orlando, but yeah, I
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: hear you.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: That'll be their excuse even if they win they won't
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: be in jacksonville so we'll continue they're.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Not gonna win that team's gonna be horrible they have
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: no draft picks and no quarterback and no talent yeah
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: it's gonna.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Be bad do they stick with daniel jones like i
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: mean i'm obviously.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: This year he said today he's gonna stick with him
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: today this week but i'm saying.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: For next season oh no what's the other option now
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: they're just like you have to play they.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Got a draft one the problem is they don't have
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: a first round pick.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah they got sauce grinder that'll be all right i'll
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: figure it out.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: And then they've got to figure out what to do
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: with Jonathan Taylor.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I still think they're going to trade him.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: They've got a week. Where do you think he'll end up, Pete?
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Green Bay, maybe. Maybe Minnesota will call on him.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Denver.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Somebody's saying Denver. Did you see the.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Seattle press conference?
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't see. I saw a tweet about it. I
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: didn't listen to it.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: It's weird.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Pete, did you see the Seattle press conference? Talking about Price,
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: check it out during a break. It's weird, man. So
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: essentially the coach, and I thought it was AI, but
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: it's real. Yeah, their coach came out and said, you know,
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Jadarian Price might be up, might be down tonight. We'll
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: see how the transactions go. And it's like, you're really
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: just going to put that out there for everyone to
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: speculate on? So, yeah, check out that press conference, man.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: It's weird.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I think Charbonnet is going to be up tonight.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: And I get like Jadarian Price hasn't really been doing
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: much all season. He's been hurt a little bit. But, like,
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: that's still your first-round pick.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: He's been hurt.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: You're just going to let him go after a half
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a year.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: Also titling it transactions makes you think like, yeah, I
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: It was weird.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: All right, we've been pushing the fan questions, and we've
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: been pushing some of the other segments, so we're going
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: to take another break. We will come back, we will
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: keep it real, and then we will get to your
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: fan questions, as well as looking ahead to Thursday Night Football.
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  Speaker 4: It is time now for Keeping It Real, presented by
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  Speaker 4: ServPro like it never even happened. I feel like most
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: weeks we end up talking about Travis Hunter. We are
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: going to keep it real about Travis Hunter, the three-way
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: player today, because not only did he play offense, he
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: played defense, and he was returning punts, which is something
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: we saw him doing in training camp. He does it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: at practice from time to time. Pete, I didn't care
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: for it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Didn't like it.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: And then later on in the game, he got wrapped
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: up by his legs and tackled over the top.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is why I don't like it.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: So what's up with that?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: It's dumb. Get him off of there right now. Stop it.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Just stop it. Okay.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Why would you do that to your best cover corner,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the one guy that can give you a guy who
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: can match up with anybody in the secondary, and you
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: also have him as a weapon on offense when you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: need to. He didn't do much on offense on Sunday.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Didn't need him to.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: But the threat of him on the one screen pass,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: you can see him, they put him in jet sweep motion,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like they threw that play to him last week, and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: then they got tootin' out of the backfield on the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: other side for the touchdown. They designed the plays around him,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that play around him, because he's such a threat.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: But why put him, why subject him to, here it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: is right there, that's the play. I mean, they got
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: him out, and it was one of those plays where
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: you see him, throw to him, nope, come back. Because
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: they go to him. Everybody on defense went in that direction,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: by the way. So it makes sense in that standpoint.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: But why... Why would you... Here, they motion over. See,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: they take a step over. It's a great play design.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohn could call plays. I can tell you that.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: He's smart. He sets them up.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And design plays.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: He runs a play with Travis like that, then everyone
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: sells on it, and then he does something like that,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: twist it the other way.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: He's always thinking about the next part of what he's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: setting up, which I think is a great trait for
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a play caller. But... Why would you put him on
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: the punt return team? That's just dumb.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, so here's the thing, right? Because I always
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: call Travis Hunter, he's like the juice guy, all right?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Like he's like a vitamin B12 shot or a T12 shot,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: as I'm going to call him. You mean to tell
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: me that you drive the ball 98 yards, you end
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: it with Brian Thomas Jr.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: In the end zone. The whole crowd's chanting BTJ, by
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: One of the coolest moments so far this year was
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: the crowd kind of getting behind Brian Thomas Jr.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Your defense comes out, you go three and out. You
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: guys need juice?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: We need juice to put Travis Hunter in catching punts,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: something I don't think he even did in college. I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: get he does it in camp, and I get he
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: did it in high school, but to me, Pete, there's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: more to it than this. There has to be, because...
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Parker Washington's a guy where I never saw, okay, well,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: let's get him out. Like, he's not a good partner.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: You know, like, and maybe it's because, you know, they
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: don't want to get him hurt. Sorry. Either, but it
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: didn't make much sense to me. And, and I think
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: there's something else to it. Like, I feel like when these,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: when the Jaguars and Liam Cohen and his company make
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: moves like this, it's not just because we wanted more juice.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense. What is your reasoning?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: It's something with Parker. What do you think it is?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: It's something with Parker. It has to be.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't want to do it anymore because he
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't have his new contract?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: That I'm not sure.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: He's not returning them as much. I noticed that long
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: drive they started with. I don't know if he lost
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: it in the lay or whatever, but he wasn't even
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: near it. He let it drop, which he doesn't normally
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: do unless it's going to be a kick return.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: So maybe they weren't happy with.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: What he's doing.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: If I'm him, I'm not asking off of that. I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: want as many opportunities as I can get. That's part
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: of the attraction.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: What is a contract year you want to sell yourself?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: If it's not here, then somewhere else.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: What were his numbers on Sunday?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't good. But Pete, let me ask you this.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: Pete, and once again, I don't know the dealings of
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: the conversations with Parker Washington, but do you think maybe
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: it comes down to he's not getting paid to be
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: a punt returner, so he doesn't want to do it?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington had two targets, one reception for 16 yards.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah but no one had but no one had more
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: than two targets because that's the kind of.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Thing again it goes back it goes back to what
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: i said the beginning of the season someone's.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Gonna be unhappy pete this proves your point maybe if
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: if what awesome is saying is accurate i don't.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I doubt that he is he he doesn't he's the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: first guy in the last guy out doesn't seem like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: he would do that now maybe an agent would do
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: that tell him to do.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: It i'm just saying man and like.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: There's a propensity for injury at that as well.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: You sound like you heard something.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard that.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: No, man. I'm just saying I watch this team closely, right?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: I don't always talk a lot, but I'm always watching
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: this team and the.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Moves that they make.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: And I just don't think that move of Travis Hunter,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: because you didn't need juice in that moment. I could
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: have saw it where, okay, Indy scored and everything. Defense
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: isn't playing well. You need to motivate your guys a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: little bit. We know Travis Hunter's a lot more shifty
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: and a lot quicker than Parker Washington is. Okay, maybe
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: that's what you're going with. You didn't need it in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: that circumstance. So to me, I think it says something. Now,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: didn't they bring Parker Washington back in, though, again?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Parker Washington, they switched on and off, so it
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: wasn't just that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: But here's the funny part.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Hang on. Go ahead, Pete.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Look, Deion used to return punts and play corner.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Remember? Yeah, of course. But here's the thing.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: I felt like the Travis Hunter punt returns, it was
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: always when he had a chance to return it. The
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Parker Washington ones, he was deep in his own end
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: zone and he couldn't do anything with it.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: So it felt like.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: You think he was just there to catch the ball
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and that's it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Parker was. And I think the ones that had the return,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter was out there for it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: Parker hasn't been great returning punts this year.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: What's his average compared to what he did last year?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I'll look it up.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: But my thought process is twofold here because, Pete, I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: know you mentioned he wants to market himself, right? And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: part of his sell is that he does special things
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: on punt return. But also the point being proven when
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: you're talking about not getting hurt because this is a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: contract year for you, punt return is where people get
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: banged up. And that's part of my issue with Travis
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Hunter being involved in punt return because he just came
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: back from an injury in his rookie year. And now
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: we're putting him in a spot where people can tee
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: off against him. This isn't a great spot to be at.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like, well, we got this toy and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: we got him going on offense a little bit. Now
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: let's get him going on special teams to show how
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: great he is. Nobody needs to see that. Look, it
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. The risk is too great
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: for him on the punt return. I wouldn't do that.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, there was a corner
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: named Jason Sehorne who the Giants had returning kickoffs. Remember him?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: He was a really good corner. He returned kickoffs and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: he was never the same because he tore up his
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: knee on a kickoff Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: I just think, I mean, once again, maybe if it's
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: the play, you know, maybe with a game on the line,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: a season on the line, I can, I can maybe
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: fathom it.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I just don't think in that moment, it really made
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: a lot of sense to me.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: It was just one of the unique things where normally
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: you kind of understand where they're going with things. And
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: that just kind of felt like it came out of
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: nowhere a little bit there.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Did anybody ask him after the game?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I was not in the coach's press conference, so I'm
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: not sure.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: I'm in the stands, Pete.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: As mentioned, I'm not.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: There because I would ask them, what in the hell
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: are you doing putting Travis Hunter back on punch floor?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, Travis might want to do it, but
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you've got to protect your player in that situation.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Travis wants to do everything.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: Travis will play every single down.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Travis wants to be a kicker.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Travis would kick field goals for you, if you will, Adam.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Your punt returner to me, and it's exactly what Parker
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Washington was when he became a good punt returner, is
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: a backup wide receiver.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: That's what your punt returner should be.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: I think Josh Cameron is who they should focus in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: on for that, personally.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Josh Cameron has that ability.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: And you're right, Pete, and I said this.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: If you pay Parker Washington, right, and obviously, regardless of
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: what the stats look like right now, he's making wide
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: receiver one money.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: How many wide receiver ones in the NFL are returning punts?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: They're not. For a reason.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: So... I don't know if that's got something to do
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: with it. I don't know. I just don't think it
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: was just.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: If he's a wide receiver one, he better start putting
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: up the numbers like a wide receiver one.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: Fair. And I agree with you.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: He is their wide receiver one. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: You don't need him that much in a game where
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: you run the ball like they did on Sunday.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: True.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, well.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: But again.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: It'll be something to watch. He ain't happy. I don't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: care what anybody says. He's not happy with his numbers
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: and his production. He can't be.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: You're never going to know.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: The other guys can't.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Be happy with their numbers in their production.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: So Pete, who's the angriest? You think they're all angry
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: They would never admit it.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: You don't admit it when you're in a good team.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: And you're winning.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: You're only allowed to admit it, but.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I deep down, if you put them all in a
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: lie detector test and after they were happy with their production, they,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: every one of them, if they said yes, they would
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: be get the.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Lion.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: Because listen, there's some positions in the league where when
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: you get a new contract, it doesn't matter as long
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: as you have the wins. And then there's some positions
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: that are predicated, how many touchdowns you have, how many
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: receptions you have, how many quarterback sacks you have. They
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: don't care about pressures. You have to, you have to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: the quarterback at quarterback sacks to get a new contract.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: Wide receiver, you need receptions, you need touchdowns.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And we saw the cornerback part of that start to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: play out a little bit on Sunday, too.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: Because somebody only had i think 14 snaps.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: You know who that was who's this jorian.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Jones yeah jorian jones.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Why do we think that.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Is because i think they feel more comfortable with the other.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: Guys yeah Is this a permanent situation, do we think?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: I guess we'll keep an eye on it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, do you think he can be happy about that?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: There's not a chance in hell.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: He's happy about that.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Jarrion Jones, do you want my opinion about it? Yes.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: I think Jarrion Jones is pretty upset because he's been
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: playing off the wide receiver way too much, and he's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: upset with that. Because, once again, I don't know any
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: inside thing. I watch people and their personalities. Jarrion Jones
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: was the first guy when Trevor Lawrence got cheap shot
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: a couple years ago.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: That went after Aziz Alshair. So I know what kind
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: of dog he is.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: So when you have a guy like him who's playing
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: off the ball, who's playing off the guy, I think.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: That rubs— But he's also been beating man-to-man.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, and once again, I agree, Pete.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: But I think when you have a guy and you
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: play him off the ball like that, I think that
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: gets in his psyche a little bit, and obviously you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: don't get the best Johnny and Jones.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the last couple games he was not good.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Correct. And so I think maybe that's a reflection of that.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Because how many, are you looking at it?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 12 snaps. Him and Jalen Jones both had 12.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now he's the fifth corner.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, some of this is garbage time, but
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Jalen Husky played 18 snaps.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: So comparatively, yeah, not.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guarantee you, as a good beat guy
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: as I used to be, I'd be in that locker room.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Pete will ask you those tough questions.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'd be in. No, I wouldn't. I'd get a
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: story out of it. I'd go, hey, Jorian.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: 14 snaps?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: What the hell is going on?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Poking the bear.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Pete, an instigator?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine. And knowing how the players react. he
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: would react in the way that I know he would react,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: because he's a fighter and a battler, and he'd be pissed,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: and he'd say something along those lines, and all of
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: a sudden I had my headline, Jarrion Jones not happy
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: with his role.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Pete Prisco with his tabloid headline.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but wouldn't you, and again, I would
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: have gone over to Travis Hunter and said, why are
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: you returning punts? You shouldn't be.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: And then people would go to Parker and be like,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: one reception? Yeah, one reception.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: No, I'd go to Parker and say, you're not getting
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: the ball enough.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: And then I'd say, why aren't you on punts? You've
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: got to ask the questions. I know the guys are
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: in there. Some of those guys will do it. But,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just... Ryan O'Halloran will go in there
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: maybe on Wednesday and ask those questions. Or Hayes. One
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: of them needs to go. Or Duraco. One of these
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: guys needs to go ask those questions. They're legitimate questions.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: And they all do a good job. They just do
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: it differently than I used to do it. I was
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: a little.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: There's no finesse with Pete Prisco. There's no finesse. He's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: just coming in.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: That's why they call him Sledgehammer.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: You got to play the player. You got to play
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: the player against the organization and then the player against
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the coach. It's so easy to do.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: That's Paramount plus Pete right there, Kai. That's why he's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: making the big bucks. You better tell him, Pete.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: A drama king indeed.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: We're going to take one more break. Jaguars Happy Hour
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: presented by Mr. Chubby's Wings. We will finally get to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: our fan questions when we come back.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Jones stops the throw. Four-man rush. Love game. Fires middle
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: of the field.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: That ball's going.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: To be picked off. The Jackson running it back. 20, 25, 30,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: 40-yard line along the right sideline. That's Rayon Lane. 30, 20, 15, 10, 5. Touchdown.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Rayon Lane brought it all the way back. He scored
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: a defensive touchdown. How good is that?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Frank Frangie with the call of the game winner.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: Not the game winner, but one of the plays of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: the game presented by Coil Fence since 1927. We've been
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: around the block and fenced it too. Ran Ling got
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: pretty fast and then I was afraid he was going
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: to gas out at the end there, but he made
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: it into the end zone. A pick six.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine if Daniel Jones had caught him?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: He never would have heard the end of it. So
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: he still, he made it. He played the angle at
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the end, so that was good. He's smart enough to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: But yeah, great game for him and a great moment
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: as well. So congrats to him and congrats to the team.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: Let's get to some fan questions. I'm sorry I've been
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: dragging everybody along here, but So much to talk about
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: that we just haven't gotten to them yet. So let's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: start out with trade possibilities. Pete, we've been talking about
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: this for weeks, but Max Crosby allegedly says he wants
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: to stay in Las Vegas. Payne injured in Washington. Are
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: the Jags running out of options for trade?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Nah, there's always guys. You just got to be willing
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: to pay the price on them. And, you know, again,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: they signed Austin Johnson today to the practice squad.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was with us last season.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: So they got another big body. They brought him back.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: He's another big body. Not that he's the answer. They
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: still got to go explore some of those options. But
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you call teams. There's guys out there. Teams that stink
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: will be willing to trade some of their players.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: Even I heard Christian Barmore in England was available now.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Did you see that, Pete?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I would call on him. I would call on Zach
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Seeler in Miami. I would call on Jordan Davis in Philly.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Jomo in Philly. Although, you know, I don't think a
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Jomo's played that well. this year yeah early in the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: season he was good then he kind of tailed off
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: then he got dinged up a little bit so there
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: there are guys out there um you could make call
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: roy lopez in uh arizona big body guy you might
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: be able to get somebody like that so there are
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: bodies out there it's just a matter of making making
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: the decision to.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: Go get one and i think they will and they
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: might get two.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: P what's what can you give up those it just
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: have to be picks i mean when you go all
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: in when you're trying to go for a Super Bowl now,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: it has to be future picks, right?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Because you don't want to give up too much of
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: what you have.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got to be careful about giving up those.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you get the guy and win the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, it's the greatest trade in the history of mankind.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: If you get the guy and you don't win the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, then your organization is going to be set back.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: But I think they're in a position now that they
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: can win it all. I really believe that. I picked
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: them before the season. I believe it even more so now.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: But you've got to make some moves to kind of
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: solidify that. Other teams out there going for it, the Bears,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: they're making moves. And so, you know, I think when
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline gets here, like the Chiefs are looking
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: for wide receiver help. Downs might be one of them. Hell,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: they might. I think Brian Thomas could be one. So
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: they're going to make a move. I think Broncos might
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: make a move for a back. Jonathan Taylor's out there.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: So if everybody's going to make moves, you've got to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: do something to make your team and make your chances.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: It's your time. Go make the moves.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, if the window's open, you've got to capitalize
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: on it, right?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: And keep in mind who we're talking about.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: This regime comes from the Rams, who I feel like
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: the Rams wrote the blueprint and the notebook on how
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: to capitalize and give up some of that draft capital
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: for To win now.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: We're going to play Dudwell's Advocate.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Hypotheticals here as well.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: If the Jaguars don't make a move ahead of the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: trade deadline, can the offense take steps forward, carry the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: defense with a deep playoff run? Can they still get
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl, Pete, with the roster as currently
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: constructed is a guess.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, but you're going to have to score more and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to play a little looser and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: a little freer on the offensive side of the ball,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: I think. That's, you know, that's my perception of it. Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think I still don't think we've seen the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: best of the passing game yet.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: That's what my so this feels plausible to me only
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: because do you as as many blowout wins as they've had?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: I still feel like there's more to be unlocked. Like
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: I still haven't seen it all. Like there's there's more
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: to be done in my turn, in my my opinion,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: in terms.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Of the offense.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think they can throw it around much
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: better than they throw it and much more than they
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: throw it. And I think they will.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: I don't like the whole phrase carry the defense. I'm
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: not going to lie. Could we go back to that question?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: Because I didn't like how they just said carry the– well,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, because I feel like this defense has kind
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: of had the offenses back a couple times.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: This season as well.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Sure, we're just nitpicking.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: We're talking about– because we've been talking about getting an
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: edge forever and now without Devon Hamilton and now.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Without Aaron Murray. Right, you're down two starters on that defense.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: But you're also down– a starting offensive lineman on offense too.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: And technically on Sunday... Maybe two.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Now because Ezra Cleveland was injured as well.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: You played mostly with two down on Sunday.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: And the backup stepped up and made play. Look, if
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: you think about it, Milam went in and was really good.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Walker Little was their best offensive lineman. Lane was outstanding.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: And....
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: You know, when Hamilton went out, it's not like the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Colts ran the hole over him. So the replacements went
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: in there and did a nice job. So that's a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: good sign to have the depth that can step in
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: and play when you have those injuries.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: Pete, real quick, the way that the AFC shakes up
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: right now, and let's just fast forward to the playoffs
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: a little bit. If the Jaguars can stop the run
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: like we think that they can't even lose Devon Hamilton,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: what offenses really get stifled?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Because I see it like this.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: I think if you stop Kenneth Walker right now with
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: who the Chiefs have, I don't think their offense is
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: even top 15, right? So I'm not worried about the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: Chiefs per se if you stop the run. What teams
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: were you in the AFC if.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: You stopped the run? Buffalo?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Buffalo, Cincinnati. Okay.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Anybody else?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: No, because Pittsburgh runs the ball. They've been running it wild.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: You'll get an idea against them. New England, they don't
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: run it that well anyways, but they don't really fear you.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: They don't got anybody outside that you scare.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: And A.J. Brown has a knee injury, a knee problem. Denver,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: you don't fear Denver. You should have beaten them the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: first time. So I think the teams that you would
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: not want to play Not that you wouldn't want to
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: play them, but you at least want to play them
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: are Buffalo and Cincinnati.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Makes sense.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: And they already beat Cincinnati.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They did.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: I thought they did. Let's see. How about this? Okay.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: With the injuries to Anton and Hamilton, do you think
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars will keep BTJ for the rest of the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: year in case of wide receiver injury because they're dealing
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: with that elsewhere?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: It depends on if he's involved in any trade for
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: a player you need on the defensive line, I think.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade him for picks unless I could take
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: those picks and use them to get a defensive lineman.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I would include him in a trade for a defensive
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: lineman if the team that I was trading him to
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: needed that. But just to trade him for the sake
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: of getting picks, I wouldn't do that.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: No that's you got a chance to play and win
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: the super bowl why.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: Would you do that you trade for picks when you're
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: almost like the the colts would do the colts are
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: doing that right like you're in like a rebuild mode
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: that's not what the jaguars are in so the only
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: way i'd even be.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: More picks and you could use picks to trade for
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: sure but a defensive lineman so let's put it.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: Like this the only way i'm gonna be happy if
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: brian thomas jr gets like i'll even like entertain it
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: is if you get immediate impact right away that season,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: whether that's picks that turn into a player, whether that's
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: a player. But if we're talking about, oh, they get,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: you know, a couple more picks next year. No, absolutely not.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: It has to be an immediate impact. I'm not just
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: trading them for extra picks for next year.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: If I get the picks to get a player, yes.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: If it's a player for player in a swap, yes.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: We touched on this a bit earlier, but now with
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: the Devon Hamilton injury, the question is what is Albert Regis' status?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: Because when you look back at some of the picks
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: this year, he's one of the ones that we haven't
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: seen anything from. He's not active very often. Is he
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: just not ready, Pete? Is this not something that's happening
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: right now?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you look through defensive linemen, it takes
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: them a little time to get going as young players.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: It's hard to– that position as much as any.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: Other is tough.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: And so– but now he's going to have to play.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: And he's going to have to be a guy that
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: gets in there and starts doing some things. You know,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: the one thing about him is– He's not that power
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: run stuffer, even though he's pretty good against the run,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: at least he was in college, but he can push
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: the pocket too. If he can do what he did
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: in college, he pushed the pocket a little bit. So
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: that might help them from that standpoint.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's wild because when he was drafted, because a
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: lot of people felt a certain type of way about it.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: They weren't happy with the size and, you know, what's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: going to go against the consensus boards a little bit.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: But to me, like I saw that and I saw
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: a Puna Ford from the Rams.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Like that's what I envisioned.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: If you know anything about Puna Ford, like undersized, right,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: but fit in a great scheme with the Rams and
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: is once again kind of like their unsung guy a
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: little bit when they're playing well. I'm struggling a little
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: bit right now, but kind of the unsung guy and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: great in stopping the run.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what I envisioned for Alvarito.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: He's a little taller than Puna, but I just feel
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: like the same style, same build and everything.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: So that's why I'm a little optimistic.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: But once again, it's one thing to put a guy
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: in there who doesn't have a lot of experience coming
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: off an injury as a rookie and expect him to
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: replace a guy like Devon Hamilton.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: By the way, one other thing about that consensus board,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: they were all wrong about Borkature.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: I like to bring that up every time because it's funny.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: Let him know.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: Let him know, Pete.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Blocking tight end catches touchdowns, too. It's not too bad.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: He's going to be a good pass-catching tight end, too,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: by the way.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: It's a quick study.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: It's nice to see that success right out of the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: gate for him, and obviously he's doing great in the
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: blocking game as well. What they've been able to do
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: with the run is a lot of a testament to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: the tight end room as well. We should give them
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: some credit there. We may have answered this question already
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: because of the injury to Eric Murray, but High Roller says,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: I feel like safety has left a lot to be
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: desired over the past couple of seasons outside of Antonio Johnson.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Do you think we'll see more usage of guys like
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: Lane and Husky after Sunday's games? Austin, do you think
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: now that we are... Sorry to cut.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: You off, Pete.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: Austin, do you think now that they have to, will
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: Husky get his chance now?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think obviously Lane and this team
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: makes a habit where if you make plays, they're going
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: to find a spot for you or find you in
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: some kind of capacity. So I definitely expect to see
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: more lane Husky. I just think it's a guy that
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: they keep gradually getting him reps and getting him more confidence.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: Cause it's like I've said the whole time, the physicality,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: the athleticism to me, isn't the issue. I think it's
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: just the mentality or like the IQ of being a rookie.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: So that takes time.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: To recognize and get guys lined up and everything else. But,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: but I will say this, that is one position where
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: when it goes for an older player, And then you
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: see the younger player next to him. And that younger
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: player looks so much faster and so much more athletic.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's when you can say, okay, it might
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: be time. And Murray was a good cerebral, good player
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: in their defense. But when he had to, he got,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: did he have a concussion a couple of weeks ago?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: And then he came back against the Texans. And he wasn't,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: he wasn't very good in that game. He didn't look
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: like himself. So I think, Look, you're going to miss them,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: but if one of those guys gets the mental part
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: of it down, you're not really going to miss them.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: It's the mental part, but it's also the communication because
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: we've seen what bad communication on the back end can
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: look like around here in Jacksonville, and that was the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: part that I need to see them do.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: But you know what? Those young athletic players, Kai, they'll
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: make up for it sometimes with their athletic ability.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: I sure hope they can when they mess up.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Josh Downs said thank you yesterday.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: When they mess up and they can still get back
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: to the spot.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: But yes, that is my concern.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: That was not on the safety, though.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: No, is that the– I mean, yeah.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: It was– I think it was Monteric Brown, to be
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: honest with you.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you mention it, I think you're right.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what this looks like going forward.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: It's not the best look, though, either.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, that shouldn't be happening for him.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Was it man or zone? Because we all know.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, I believe it was zone. They didn't pass it off.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: It was zone.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: The guy went inside. He went with them. They both
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: went with them, and then they went to the outside.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: Nobody was sitting over there. I think he should have
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: been sitting outside. At least that's what it looked like
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: to me. I don't know for sure. I've got to
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: watch it again, but it looked like it was Brown.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: It's his strong suit after all. We're going to take
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: one more break here on Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: We'll come back.
• 1:25:04
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• 1:25:07
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• 1:25:08
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• 1:25:20
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• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: Chubby's Wings, the second hour. And let's talk a little
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: bit about Thursday Night Football because it's right around the corner.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: We talked some earlier, but Lamar Jackson was injured in
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: his game this week. Very early on, had a thumb injury.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: He's had an operation. He will likely be out the
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: rest of the season. Then their backup, Snoop Huntley, got
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: hurt and he was out.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: And then they went into.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: their third string quarterback, UConn legend Joe Fagnano. And whether
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: he will be starting this weekend, I'm sure they'll bring
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: in some other bodies as they will need to. But
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: this might be the Derrick Henry show is what I'm expecting.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: It's going to look like.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, though? And you know this, Austin.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: When you don't have to really respect the pass, it's
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: a lot easier to play that run.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: Stack the box.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: It sure is.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: You're not lying there, but I will say this much
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: because Zay Flowers will be good to go or not.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Did he come out? He had zero catches, by the way.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Zero catches?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: So was he hurt?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: That's because the kid didn't throw to him.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: Regardless, be mindful of him in space. It doesn't take
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: a lot for Zay Flowers to get going in space, right?
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: I know a guy that could cover him.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: You do you now.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: T12?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the punt returner.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: The punt returner.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: The three-way player?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, put the punt returner on him.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: Let's see what happens.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I think... Look, he's an undrafted free agent.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Or was he his late route? Was he his seventh
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: round pick? I think he was undrafted. Undrafted. And he
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: looked good in the preseason, but now there's a little
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: tape on him, you know, so.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: Listen, regular season is very different than what we see
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: in preseason.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: And they haven't made a move as of yet, so
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine anybody else is starting that game.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: No, there's no way.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: If there's someone on the street, unless you can try
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: to try and bribe our old friend Joe back into town.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: He's got one more of them.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Is he hanging out since he, these days?
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I think he is.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But they need a, they need a quarterback that
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: knows that system too. That's, that's why there was rumors
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: about trading for Bajan from the bears. Cause he played
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Declan Doyle was in Chicago.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: There's no way the bears are going to give that away.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't get rid of him earlier.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: I think people wanted, um, So I'm curious what that
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: will look like. Hopefully it's not Jake Browning or some
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: other backup quarterback Jaguar killer.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: That we've run into in the past. How about Minshew
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Mania part two, Pete?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: The Cardinals. Gardner Minshew named the starter there as they
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: were able to. They've got the Cowboys number, apparently, because
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: they were able.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: To get a win in overtime. Gardner is that guy.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: He's going to come off the bench, play really well,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: throw it around, have some fun, play loose, get his
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: team back in the game, maybe win it. And then
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: he'll start for a couple games and look good maybe
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: in one and.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: Awful in two of them, and then back to the
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: bench he goes.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: That's who he is.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: That's it? It's that simple?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: You guys don't want the wigs back?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: Do the whole thing again?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I said this today on one of our shows. I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: said it's the pile of backup quarterbacks. They all do
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: the same thing, every one of them. I don't care
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: who they are. If they play, you're going to see
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: glimpses of good. Somebody will say, oh, well, he could
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: start somewhere, and then they play three games, and you go, oh,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: back into the pile you go. You're a backup quarterback.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: Pete, I know that this guy is not going to
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: be in the pile anytime soon because they need him,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: but you think JJ McCarthy is in that mold.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: Or do you think he can kind of make a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: name for himself again?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: He's going to go back into the backup pile.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Back in the pile he goes.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Back into the pile.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: Ruthless.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Back in the pile.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: Pete, Titans tried to make something out of something in Cincy,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: but couldn't get it done in overtime. Is this a
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: sign of them getting things together on offense, or just
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: no one was playing defense?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Is that what that was?
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: The Bengals defense wasn't very good. Plus, they turned the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: ball over a couple of times and set him up.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: But Cam Ward was his I think that was his
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: best game rewatching it. Got the ball out, was in rhythm,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: didn't panic. It was clearly his best game this year
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: and it might have been his best game yet. So
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: that's a good sign for the Titans. Not a great
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: sign for Jacksonville has to play him twice.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like now it's this whole offense is
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: tailored to see if Cam Ward's the guy or not.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: Like that's what they're going to find out going forward.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: Like they have to figure out if he's going to
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: be the franchise dude or if they have to look
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: in a different direction.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Played well.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't love that kind of two-minute drill at the
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: end there because they had an opportunity, but he took
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: a sack late, and that's what.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Kind of ended up going into overtime.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: And also just I think there's a lot to be
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: said when you're obviously the quarterback, you're leading the team,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: but when you're operating two-minute drill and you're yelling but
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: not in an organized way, if that makes sense, it
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: looked a little frantic to me, and I'm like, I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: know you guys practice this every day. This cannot be
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: as frantic as it is.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: And that was not a good look for him.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: It didn't look great. Elsewhere in the league, what we
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: got going on? Detroit able to beat the Vikings. That's
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: their first loss. Have they figured out? Did they figure
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: out how to deal with all the blitzing?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Well, they ran it right at them for about 200 yards.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: I've said that all the time again. I said that always.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: I said, you run at them. They're not big. You
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: kind of expose them a little bit, and they ran
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: it for 200. And it wasn't just Gibbs. Bakke ran
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: for about 70 yards, too. Sione Bakke. They ran at them.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Run the rock.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: The Vikings might have a quarterback problem, and they've got
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: to decide what they're going to do about that. You
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: don't do it when you're 6-1, but their stretch is
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Buffalo this week, at Green Bay, 49ers in San Francisco.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: If they lose those three games, they're going to make
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: a change.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: What are the options right now?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Or all the Raiders on Kirk Cousins. Huh?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Kirk's return to.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you watch Kyler Murray and the whole
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: back foot throw just drives me nuts when he does.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't get it.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: He's trying to get a little.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: He fails everything because he's so little.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: He's trying to see.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: He fails every pass because he's so little.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He's throwing off his back because he can't see.
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  Speaker 3: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: And you saw frustration from Jefferson on Sunday. Oh, of course.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Which is never a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want him getting upset.
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  Speaker 4: Because you throw it anywhere in his region and he'll
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: get it. So the fact you can't even get it
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: over to him.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: And he was wide open for a touchdown and he
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: sailed it over his head by about 10 yards. It
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: was terrible.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: You feel so bad for Jefferson, though, just the quarterbacks
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: that he's had to play with, right?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: Like he had to go to the car.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: And meanwhile, you had Jamar Chase just, you know, doing
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: his thing and everything.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: And you got Justin Jefferson.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: The best wide receiver in the league is just like,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: can I get somebody to throw the ball.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: To me, please?
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: That would be nice. That would be thoughtful.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh gets the win over Cleveland. I know you're fading
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: on Cleveland now, right? No faith in the Browns.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: I think they've overachieved. They're young. That's a young team.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Watch out for them in a year or two when
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: they get a quarterback. But I think the Steelers, Mike
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: McCarthy's a good football coach. People give, you know, they've
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: ripped him everywhere he goes. But he knows how to
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: win games, and they got back to their roots. They
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: ran the ball, and they had eight sacks. They lead
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: the league in sacks, the Steelers.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's wild, right, because it's not the sexiest offense
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: by any means, but they find a way to get
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: the job done. And when you have a defense that
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: can play complimentary football, you're always going to have a shot,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: and Rodgers is doing just enough right now. And it's
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: wild to think about the scenes of Rodgers chewing out
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: McCarthy and T.J. Watt cussing out the defensive coordinator a
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: couple weeks ago. Yeah, they're kind of back to doing
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: their thing again.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: Tonight, the defending Super Bowl champions will host the Chicago Bears,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: two of the top defenses, two of the young coaches,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald and Johnson. Lots to watch in this game.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: This is probably one of our closest matchups on Monday
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: Night Football. Bears, Seahawks, who you got?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: You know, also in that game, Jeffrey Simmons against Quentin Nelson.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jeffrey Simmons, Dave Hughes.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Like at AFC South. All AFC South, at least, battle
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: each other twice a year. Now they're back doing it tonight.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take Seattle. I think they're the better team. And, look,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: everybody's on the Bears, but you go into Seattle on
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: a nighttime game, that's a tough, tough ask. I'll take Seattle.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, running the football versus a team that can
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: stop the run. It's the age-old question. You err with
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: the defense, but I need a game picker upper here,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: so go ahead and give me the Chicago Bears. Can
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: I get the ball one more time? Get the ball
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: or not?
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: You're getting desperate.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: Hey, Travis Hunter, better catch it next time. I don't
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: want to see any of you. Just this right here
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: and just catch it, man.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Or don't even put him in that situation.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Or just, I don't care if you put him in,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: just one of these right here is all we need.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you, dude.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Austin's getting desperate. He's making picks, trying to make his
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: record better.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Well, finally, we have an option here. Pete's leading five
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: to two. Austin has three and four. So this is
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: an opportunity to get a game back.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a coin flip, I feel like. It
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: is a pickup. Yeah.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, we locked the Colts last week. Let's
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: not forget about that.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: We did. Lock is a win. What do we feel
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: about Thursday night football?
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Um, with Joe Fagnano, a quarterback, if they don't win
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: that game, it's one of the great chokes of all time.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: So they will win the game.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: Are you going to lock that Pete?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Should we triple lock it?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not locking it. I don't lock road games.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Are we making up rules, Pete? When is that?
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, this is always my rule.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: This is always my rule. I never lock the road.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: I don't lock road games.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: Hasn't gone to the Super Bowl, but we're going to
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: stay away from those road games.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't have to lock it. You know
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: So if I don't have to lock it, I won't.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: He's got the AFC running through Jacksonville, so he doesn't
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: have to go.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: To road games. Okay, fair. I feel like Super Bowls
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: are going to be a road game.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Enjoy Thursday night football this week. Go out and vote
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: tomorrow if you can.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: And just enjoy your weekend as well.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: We will be back on Monday to recap everything for
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: you on Jaguars Happy Hour.