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- 0:00Speaker 1: As is the case, and thank god at eight thirty
- 0:02Speaker 1: every one said, we get to hear from the judge. Ninapolitano,
- 0:05Speaker 1: Heather is in Detroit, Judge, Judge. Apparently Chuck Ingram's on vacation,
- 0:10Speaker 1: so he didn't get your personalized introduction today. Welcome back,
- 0:14Speaker 1: your honor. It's great having you on as always.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me know before I complained bitterly.
- 0:20Speaker 1: I know we all missed Chuck when he's not around,
- 0:23Speaker 1: but at least you know he's alive and he gets
- 0:25Speaker 1: a vacation because that's.
- 0:27Speaker 2: And Chuck, if you're listening, you are missed.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Yes he is, Yes he is. Judge Edna Politano, Oh
- 0:33Speaker 1: my god. Trying to unpackage again yesterday's election. We had
- 0:36Speaker 1: a real terrible outcome here in the city of Cincinnati,
- 0:38Speaker 1: generally speaking, looking at New Jersey and Virginia didn't go
- 0:42Speaker 1: the way that we were hoping. But they didn't. Those
- 0:43Speaker 1: races didn't surprise me. The whole Mom Donnie thing has
- 0:47Speaker 1: really got me. I just don't understand it. I hate
- 0:50Speaker 1: to hit you over the head with politics like this,
- 0:52Speaker 1: but I just since you live in New Jersey, I
- 0:54Speaker 1: just wanted to New York and New Jersey as suppose, well,
- 0:56Speaker 1: I live.
- 0:57Speaker 2: In I'm in New York during the weeks, so I'm
- 1:00Speaker 2: right in the middle of the media heartbeat of all
- 1:04Speaker 2: the Mamdani stuff. It's just an unusual phenomenon of enthusiasm
- 1:11Speaker 2: from young people and old time lefties who apparently had
- 1:16Speaker 2: more or less given up on the system, but were
- 1:19Speaker 2: attracted by his hard left ideology and his very attractive,
- 1:26Speaker 2: very endearing personality. He's very charming, very physically attractive young
- 1:35Speaker 2: man and Governor Cuomo who has been a friend of
- 1:38Speaker 2: mine as his family has been for many, many years.
- 1:44Speaker 2: I hate to say this, but seemed to lack the
- 1:47Speaker 2: energy and enthusiasm that he manifested when he was the
- 1:52Speaker 2: governor of New York. Now he lost to Mamdanni twice.
- 1:56Speaker 2: He lost to him in the Democratic primary back in June,
- 2:00Speaker 2: then he lost last night when he ran as an independent,
- 2:04Speaker 2: and notably ma'am Donnie by a narrow margin, but nevertheless
- 2:09Speaker 2: he did exceed fifty percent. So the complaints that the
- 2:14Speaker 2: Republican Curtis Sliwa, whom the President referred to as a spoiler.
- 2:19Speaker 2: So the President of the United States and the titular
- 2:22Speaker 2: head of the Republican Party told the Republicans in New York,
- 2:26Speaker 2: the few of them that are here, not to vote
- 2:28Speaker 2: for the Republican candidate, but to vote for Andrew Cuomo.
- 2:31Speaker 2: If all of them had done that, ma'am, which is unlikely.
- 2:36Speaker 2: But if all of them had done that, ma'am, Donnie
- 2:38Speaker 2: still would have won. Now, his victory speech was not
- 2:45Speaker 2: wrapping his arms around people at all. It was an aggressive,
- 2:50Speaker 2: pugnacious challenge to the President of the United States. I
- 2:55Speaker 2: would have wrapped my arms around everybody. I would have said,
- 2:58Speaker 2: mister President, this is the city of your birth, This
- 3:01Speaker 2: is the city where you made your name. You built
- 3:03Speaker 2: great skyscrapers in the city. We welcome you back, and
- 3:08Speaker 2: we welcome your cooperation. Governor Cuomo. I want you to
- 3:12Speaker 2: join my administration because you know so much about the city.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I would have said things like that, but he didn't.
- 3:18Speaker 2: He just came out swinging as if this was a
- 3:21Speaker 2: perpetual campaign. Now, one thing that Trump did which helped
- 3:27Speaker 2: ma'm Donnie and hurt the Republican in New Jersey. And
- 3:32Speaker 2: I don't know how Trump did this. Because Congress has
- 3:35Speaker 2: appropriated about six or seven billion for a new tunnel
- 3:39Speaker 2: under the Hudson River between New Jersey and New York
- 3:41Speaker 2: badly needed. The new tunnel will be trained and automobile,
- 3:45Speaker 2: and they've started work on it. They're part way under
- 3:50Speaker 2: the river, starting from the New Jersey side. He cut
- 3:53Speaker 2: off the funds on that project, and the Republican candidate
- 3:58Speaker 2: who's on Trump's coattails, so to speak, refuse to criticize
- 4:03Speaker 2: Trump for it. Many many people in New Jersey are
- 4:06Speaker 2: aggravated by that. Many people New York are aggravated by it.
- 4:09Speaker 2: The project brings thousands of jobs and an enormous economic
- 4:14Speaker 2: improvement to the area. Trump cut it off in one
- 4:17Speaker 2: of his peaks of anger. He didn't cut it off
- 4:19Speaker 2: for any soundly stated reason. So it's a political mess
- 4:25Speaker 2: here right now. I just hope the city doesn't suffer
- 4:28Speaker 2: because the mayor likes to tease the president's personality and
- 4:36Speaker 2: tont his ego.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Well, does this signal beyond New York that the Democrats
- 4:42Speaker 1: will be successful in their far leftward lurch. I mean,
- 4:45Speaker 1: they've been struggling with party identity for a long time,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and the one thing that says to solidify Democrats is
- 4:50Speaker 1: just a uniform hatred for Donald Trump. Fine, he's not
- 4:54Speaker 1: going to be around.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Leader of the leader of the Democratic Party in the
- 4:58Speaker 2: state of New York, who is also so the minority
- 5:01Speaker 2: leader in the United States Senate, was not at the
- 5:06Speaker 2: Mam Donnie celebration last night. His office is right across
- 5:09Speaker 2: in New York City, offices right across the street from
- 5:11Speaker 2: where I am now occasionally see each other in the streets.
- 5:13Speaker 2: That's Senator Chuck Schumer. He of course, is about to
- 5:17Speaker 2: face a challenge from the left, from the famous or
- 5:19Speaker 2: infamous however you want to call her, AOC Alexandria Acassio Cortes.
- 5:24Speaker 2: She's going to challenge him in the Democratic primary as
- 5:27Speaker 2: he seeks reelection in twenty twenty six. The only thing
- 5:32Speaker 2: the Democrats unite around is their antipathy to the president.
- 5:37Speaker 2: They do not unite around I geology. There is the
- 5:40Speaker 2: Mam Donnie AOC Bernie Sanders wing, and there is the
- 5:46Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer wing. I mean this AOC crowd makes Chuck
- 5:50Speaker 2: Schumer seem like Ronald Reagan, that comparison. It's just it's crazy.
- 5:56Speaker 2: But they have the enthusiasm. And I'll tell you about
- 5:59Speaker 2: Mendanni's money. Small donations fifteen dollars fifty dollars one hundred dollars.
- 6:08Speaker 2: No huge ten million dollar deposits in a political action
- 6:12Speaker 2: committee by billionaires. If anything, the billionaires in New York
- 6:16Speaker 2: tried to prevent him, and they aided Cuomo.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Well, that is an interesting phenomenon and of itself, but
- 6:23Speaker 1: I guess he prevailed in the city with the largest
- 6:27Speaker 1: Jewish population in the country. He is an avowed anti Semite.
- 6:33Speaker 1: I mean, he's on record and he's affiliated with every
- 6:35Speaker 1: anti Semitic organization there is, and I'm painting with a
- 6:38Speaker 1: broad brush all acknowledge, but a lot of them. He's
- 6:41Speaker 1: made some demonstrably horrific comments about Hamas and the Jewish
- 6:44Speaker 1: people generally, and he refuses to renounce Hamas, for example,
- 6:48Speaker 1: even the wake of that October seventh massacre. I just
- 6:51Speaker 1: don't understand how he could get traction in New York City.
- 6:54Speaker 2: I think the Jewish community in New York City they
- 7:00Speaker 2: either just gave up the ghost or there are many, many, many,
- 7:06Speaker 2: Because I have friends in this group, members of the
- 7:10Speaker 2: Jewish people in New York City who are profoundly anti
- 7:15Speaker 2: netsan Yahoo, profoundly against what happened in Gaza, refer to
- 7:20Speaker 2: it as genocide and probably either voted for Mam Donnie
- 7:25Speaker 2: or didn't vote because they expected him to win. Now
- 7:30Speaker 2: a Cuomo has always had the support of all the
- 7:34Speaker 2: major Jewish groups, but of course his elections before this
- 7:38Speaker 2: one were all prior to October seventh, and never against
- 7:43Speaker 2: a Muslim who was decidedly anti Jewish, So that also
- 7:47Speaker 2: is a phenomenon. But you know this, Tucker Carlson, Nick Flint.
- 7:52Speaker 2: This thing exploded right at the tail end of the
- 7:57Speaker 2: of the campaign. I'm a friend of Tucker Carlson. I
- 8:00Speaker 2: wouldn't go within a ten foot pole of Flints. But
- 8:04Speaker 2: I don't think Carlson is an anti Semite. I think
- 8:07Speaker 2: Carlson opposes what he believes, and I agree with him
- 8:12Speaker 2: as the genocide in Gaza, and there are a lot
- 8:15Speaker 2: of Jewish people in New York that agree with him.
- 8:18Speaker 2: And that reared its head. It's because of the attacks
- 8:22Speaker 2: on Carlson in the past ten days. Republican attacks on Carlson.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Yeah, widespread, and I was actually shocked by all that.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Real quick here, I appreciated your column which comes out tonight.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I'm lucky to get it early. Can the President tax you?
- 8:39Speaker 1: And this of course relates to the levying of tariff.
- 8:42Speaker 1: This is going to be argued before the Supreme Court,
- 8:44Speaker 1: is it not.
- 8:45Speaker 2: It's going to be argued this morning at ten o'clock
- 8:49Speaker 2: before the Supreme Court. And the funders of the challengers
- 8:55Speaker 2: are all conservative, Republican and libertarian groups who a year
- 9:02Speaker 2: ago endorsed to Donald Trump but are profoundly critical of tariffs.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Tariffs go back to Thomas Jefferson, but they've always been
- 9:11Speaker 2: enacted by Congress. This is the first president who imposed
- 9:16Speaker 2: tariffs on his own usurping the power to tax the
- 9:20Speaker 2: tariff as a sales tax. The question is did Congress
- 9:23Speaker 2: give away its power? And then the question is can
- 9:26Speaker 2: Congress constitutionally give away its power? I've read these two statutes,
- 9:30Speaker 2: telling Blue in the face, you can't find the word
- 9:33Speaker 2: tariff's in there specifically or even by implication.
- 9:38Speaker 1: You refer to the National Emergencies Act in nineteen seventy
- 9:40Speaker 1: six that he's claiming the right to do this under.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, there's a four a Gerald Ford era statute
- 9:47Speaker 2: and then another one Jimmy Carter era. He's also claiming
- 9:52Speaker 2: that this is an emergency. When you ask him what
- 9:54Speaker 2: the emergency is, I don't know how the doj is
- 9:56Speaker 2: going to say this is an emergency with a straight face.
- 9:59Speaker 2: When justice course that you asks them what's the emergency?
- 10:03Speaker 2: They claim the imbalance of trade is an emergency. Well,
- 10:06Speaker 2: we've had an imbalance of trade since nineteen thirty four.
- 10:08Speaker 2: That's ninety years. How could that be an emergency. There's
- 10:13Speaker 2: a federal definition of emergency a sudden and unexpected event
- 10:19Speaker 2: that adversely affects the national security or economic stability. So
- 10:24Speaker 2: you're talking about a surprise military attack or a hurricane.
- 10:27Speaker 2: You're not talking about a ledger sheet that has existed
- 10:32Speaker 2: for ninety years.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Well, and given them were the wealthiest country on the planet,
- 10:37Speaker 1: you would expect a trade in balance because we have
- 10:38Speaker 1: enough money to buy stuff from other contact.
- 10:41Speaker 2: So if you run up your credit card to its
- 10:44Speaker 2: limit and you owe the credit card company more than
- 10:47Speaker 2: you have at the moment in your checking account, you
- 10:51Speaker 2: have a personal trade imbalance. Is that the fault of
- 10:55Speaker 2: the companies that sold you the products? No, you're going
- 10:58Speaker 2: to punish them. No. Trump looks at it differently. He
- 11:02Speaker 2: claims it's the fault of foreign governments, and so he
- 11:04Speaker 2: wants to punish them with tariffs.
- 11:06Speaker 1: So the mechanism to actually do. This is congressional action, correct,
- 11:11Speaker 1: And here we find ourselves with nothing but congressional inaction
- 11:15Speaker 1: on literally everything. This is where the problem of expedients
- 11:19Speaker 1: always enters into the equation with you and I and
- 11:21Speaker 1: everybody else. People want stuff done right now. They're not
- 11:23Speaker 1: willing to wait for the constitutionally founded process to go through,
- 11:27Speaker 1: and when that process fails, people immediately defaulted, We'll just
- 11:30Speaker 1: go ahead and do it anyway. It's like launching a lot.
- 11:32Speaker 2: That is actually part of the DOJ's problem. The DOJ
- 11:36Speaker 2: lawyer is going to point to be in the courtroom.
- 11:38Speaker 2: It's going to point across the street to the Capitol
- 11:41Speaker 2: and say that building is closed. They can't agree on anything.
- 11:45Speaker 2: The government is shut down. What is the president supposed
- 11:48Speaker 2: to do?
- 11:48Speaker 1: Right?
- 11:51Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he can tax, but it does mean
- 11:53Speaker 2: he has to run foreign policy without the Congress.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, well, at least in the constitution he is
- 12:01Speaker 1: responsible for foreign policy. But as you point out, taxes
- 12:05Speaker 1: are not foreign policy, and tariffs are invested in the
- 12:09Speaker 1: part of the congressional responsibility complicated. It is your honor,
- 12:12Speaker 1: And of course gridlock tends to result in actions of expedients.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Perhaps Unlawful Judging Napolitana. Judging Freedom is your podcast. You
- 12:21Speaker 1: do it all week. What's going on today? Your honor
- 12:25Speaker 1: might have.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Professor Glenn Dieson and XCIA agent to Phil Giraldi, and
- 12:31Speaker 2: tomorrow Colonel Douglas McGregor and Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson who worked
- 12:37Speaker 2: with Dick Cheney and is going to refer to him
- 12:39Speaker 2: as a war criminal.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Somehow, that seems like it's expected. Good job. We'll be
- 12:47Speaker 1: listening to the Judging Freedom. I'll courage my listeners to
- 12:49Speaker 1: find that podcast and enjoy your conversations. Always excellent they are,
- 12:53Speaker 1: and I always appreciate your time here in the fifty
- 12:54Speaker 1: five carese.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Morning as much as I appreciate the time you give me.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, thank you.
- 13:00Speaker 1: I have a wonderful week, my friends, eight forty two.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Right now fIF you have k see the talk stations, Joe,
- 13:03Speaker 1: open the phone line,