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Hour 3: Clancy trial holdout juror · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, everybody's back in the courtroom today in front of
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  Speaker 1: a judge for a hearing to decide if there's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a retrial of Lindsay Clancy. Everybody, every single
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  Speaker 1: legal analyst that you've heard so far has said there's
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  Speaker 1: definitely going to be a retrial. The only question is
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  Speaker 1: going to be, are they still going to go to
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  Speaker 1: first-degree murder without a chance of ever getting out? That's
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  Speaker 1: the only question apparently at this point. According to the
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  Speaker 1: legal analysts. Now, they may shock us. It may turn
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  Speaker 1: out to be otherwise, but that sounds like that's what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. And we'll talk about that tomorrow. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, the holdout juror, the one that caused a mistrial,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Desronneville, spoke last night to Fox News and Sean Hannity.
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  Speaker 2: I know the whole focus has been on me, but
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  Speaker 2: we want to reel everything back. and put the focus
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  Speaker 2: on the three angels that's at hand. The ones that
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  Speaker 2: can't speak for themselves, the ones that can't defend themselves,
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  Speaker 2: and the ones that can't fight the battles. And those
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  Speaker 2: are Cora, Dawson, and Callan.
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  Speaker 1: Amen to that. My God. Thank God that guy was
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  Speaker 1: in the jury room. I will tell you, that there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a retrial and it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: odd if they find out that they get the same
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  Speaker 1: type of jurors and it's going to be odd if
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  Speaker 1: all of the sudden we get the same verdict. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's ever going to happen. It sounds like
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  Speaker 1: when you hear from the holdout juror that there was
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  Speaker 1: a group of real feminist women who came after him
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  Speaker 1: and he said, every time I tried to talk, they'd
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  Speaker 1: cut me off. It was an argument. Nobody was hearing
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  Speaker 1: each other out. And they were upset with him. He
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  Speaker 1: also said, and his attorney said, that everything that has
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  Speaker 1: been said about him since then is a lie. That
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  Speaker 1: he never had reasonable doubt. He was positive from the
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  Speaker 1: beginning that she should be sentenced to first-degree murder because
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  Speaker 1: she killed three children. Apparently, he was the only one
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  Speaker 1: in that jury room that was thinking about the three kids.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of them... thought that this was going to
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  Speaker 1: be a movement, that now we're going to do postpartum
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  Speaker 1: care and make this a national movement to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that no women, no women are ever charged with a
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  Speaker 1: crime like this again, especially if they've gone through some
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  Speaker 1: type of postpartum psychosis. It was bizarre. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: one other thing. I heard an interview with his attorney. Also,
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  Speaker 1: it was on Fox News. And it sounds to me
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  Speaker 1: like there is going to be a lawsuit against the
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney, Reddington, because anything he said in court, that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Anything he said in court about the holdout juror is fine.
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  Speaker 1: That's protected. But he went on TV and attacked the
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  Speaker 1: holdout juror. He went out in front of the courthouse
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  Speaker 1: and attacked the courthouse juror. So listen to his attorney,
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  Speaker 1: and you can tell me if you think, that there's
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit coming.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Reddington is just upset that he lost out on
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  Speaker 3: his legacy moment. He was one vote away from winning
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  Speaker 3: a trial that would have been the capstone of his career,
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  Speaker 3: and he didn't get it. And he lost his mind
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  Speaker 3: because of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's attorney Edward Poltsnick, who is now representing the holdout
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  Speaker 1: jury in a civil action, Curtis.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you can knock himself out. Uh, he's going to
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  Speaker 4: sue Reddington. I think Reddington secretly wants another trial.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at him.
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  Speaker 4: He's internationally prominent. He was the likable attorney, you know,
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  Speaker 4: older guy. Uh, everybody came to him. All the reporters
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  Speaker 4: loved him. All the ladies in pink who are outside
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  Speaker 4: supporting his, uh, his, uh, client. They loved him. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: even though he'll say, I don't want this to go forward.
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  Speaker 4: You know, secretly, Reddington wants this to go forward because
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  Speaker 4: trial number two, he's in the spotlight, just like all
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  Speaker 4: the TV analysts.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they want it desperately.
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  Speaker 4: That's at least three months in which you're going to
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  Speaker 4: be getting accommodations in Plymouth Rock, and the networks want it,
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  Speaker 4: and everybody wants it. But I got to think, if
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  Speaker 4: I'm the prosecutor... And I've heard more of what the
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  Speaker 4: husband actually texted and put on social networking about his
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  Speaker 4: wife at the time. He's going to be Reddington's primary witness.
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  Speaker 4: And they're going to have a hung jury again. There's
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  Speaker 4: just no way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with you. They're not going to get
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  Speaker 1: 12 people who agree. I do. I think so. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to get 12 people. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: going to go after second degree and they're going to
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  Speaker 1: get it. So we'll see. I mean, neither of us know.
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  Speaker 1: We'll both find out together.
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  Speaker 4: In Massachusetts and in the county there, if they want
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  Speaker 4: to waste their money, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: But it's going to be a hung jury. It's not.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no question they're going to go after this again.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm only going from, what do I know?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney, but I'm going from every single
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  Speaker 1: legal expert and every attorney that they talk to about
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  Speaker 1: this says, of course, the prosecution is going to retry this.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they're going to go after it again. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll see if they're all wrong and if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But I got a feeling you're going to hear today.
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  Speaker 1: They want to retry this, and I think they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be much more careful about jury selection next time around.
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  Speaker 4: Right, but remember, a DA is also an elected official
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  Speaker 4: unless they get appointed by the governor there in the
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  Speaker 4: Commonwealth like DAs do in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure of that.
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  Speaker 4: But if, in fact, they stand for election, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think the majority of the people in that county want
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  Speaker 4: this to go to trial again.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. Doesn't matter. We'll see. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, justice is what matters. No, no, I understand.
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  Speaker 1: But it's amazing. Here we're even conversing about it now. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in most cases, we talk about the victim
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  Speaker 1: almost all the time. The victim, the victim, the victim.
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  Speaker 1: We have three victims, three innocent children that are killed.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody talks about them. And that's, to me, that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing I'm thinking about, that they should get some
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  Speaker 1: type of semblance of justice.
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  Speaker 4: The most powerful witness for the defense is the husband.
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  Speaker 4: Who defends her in ways that we didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: originally in his initial testimony.
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  Speaker 1: So much more has come out. To a jury? Yes. No,
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  Speaker 1: does that matter? So they're going to think about her
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  Speaker 1: state of mind and not the fact that we have
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  Speaker 1: three small dead bodies and that they were strangled. and
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  Speaker 1: that she planned the whole thing and plotted the whole thing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, then we're lost as a society
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  Speaker 1: because that woman should be in jail for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of her life. And now you have copycats from across
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  Speaker 1: the country that think they're going to be just like
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy. You got a woman outside of Chicago that
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  Speaker 1: hung her child, had him hanging from the rafters, dying.
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  Speaker 1: See what that starts? See what this kind of talk starts?
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  Speaker 1: It's going to start a national movement of sick, crazy
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  Speaker 1: mothers who now already started. I didn't see that coming. But, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, she was obsessed with this case.
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  Speaker 4: But I tell you, after that 60 minutes interview with
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  Speaker 4: the husband and his new wife, it's clear. If I'm Reddington, wow.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't talk like that when he was first on
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  Speaker 4: the witness stand. Remember, he was the prosecution first and
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  Speaker 4: primary witness.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: If the prosecution doesn't call him, Reddington will certainly call him.
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  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. But that's one witness in
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  Speaker 1: a weeks-long case, and we do have so much more. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll take weeks and weeks and weeks. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I just said, weeks-long case. But it can't be
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  Speaker 1: the only thing they hang their hat on. As a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, I think he's all but insignificant except
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  Speaker 1: for the details he can give about when he was
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  Speaker 1: told to leave the house and when he came back
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  Speaker 1: in the house and when he found the children. All
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  Speaker 1: the other stuff? You know, it's great that he still
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  Speaker 1: loves his wife. It's great that he doesn't want her
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  Speaker 1: to go to jail forever. That's a person that was
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  Speaker 1: a loving husband and still has feelings for her. That's irrelevant.
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  Speaker 1: It's all irrelevant. What's relevant is that she plotted and
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  Speaker 1: planned to kill three children and that she looked at
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  Speaker 1: them in the face while she strangled them. And so
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any forgiveness for that. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I understand.
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  Speaker 4: I respect that. But I also know there's jury nullification.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to have even more demonstrators outside of that courthouse.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure the prosecutor may have thought about sequestering a
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  Speaker 4: jury if he decides to go for a second prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: But it's a small town. It's a small county. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: knows one another. So it's going to be extraordinarily difficult,
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  Speaker 4: maybe a change of venue. But the prosecutor probably will
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  Speaker 4: not want to give up his venue. But they've done
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  Speaker 4: that before in high-profile cases. Change the venue. Get it
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  Speaker 4: out of there.
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  Speaker 1: God, I hope you're wrong. I hope you're wrong because
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  Speaker 1: we're lost as a society if we let somebody strangle
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  Speaker 1: three children and there's no punishment to be given for that,
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  Speaker 1: that we don't consider that murder because she's going through
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  Speaker 1: some postpartum issues. Which, by the way, if she was
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  Speaker 1: going through postpartum issues, and I'll bring this up again,
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  Speaker 1: how did she plot and plan that? I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: was she so evil that she could plan how she
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  Speaker 1: could get her husband out of the house to have...
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  Speaker 1: elastic strings that she can strangle every one of them
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  Speaker 1: individually and chase after the one to get them. See,
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  Speaker 1: they're the only facts that I think that are relevant.
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  Speaker 1: Those facts that I'm laying out now are the only
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  Speaker 1: facts that are relevant. Everything else is just talk. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's the way it's presented also.
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  Speaker 4: I think the prosecutor was a little too hard, a
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  Speaker 4: little too, the demeanor was not, sympathy, no empathy, and
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  Speaker 4: Reddington basically dominated. So if you're going to re-prosecute this,
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  Speaker 4: I realize you'll probably use the same assistant district attorney,
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  Speaker 4: the woman, I forget her name, But I think she's
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  Speaker 4: got to approach it a little differently if she's going
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  Speaker 4: to try to convince the jury to come to a
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  Speaker 4: different conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this jury was an aberration. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you're going to get a jury like that again
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  Speaker 1: where there's a group of women who decided together that
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  Speaker 1: the three children didn't matter, that what was more important
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  Speaker 1: was a national statement to be made. That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be extraordinary rare, and I hope it doesn't happen again.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I just have a belief in justice that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exist anymore.
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  Speaker 4: There was a majority women, but there's also two men
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  Speaker 4: who joined them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, who were berated into it, as we found out,
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  Speaker 1: who were talked into it. They both talked.
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  Speaker 4: The holdout juror said, yes, we haven't heard from the
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  Speaker 4: other two who said we were berated into it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we heard from one of them. Yeah, we did.
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  Speaker 1: He did an interview, so we heard from at least
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  Speaker 1: one of them, and he said that at first he
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  Speaker 1: was going to convict, and he was talked out of it, so... Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it would make me sick to my stomach
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  Speaker 1: if she doesn't get convicted.
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  Speaker 4: Well, my prediction is the DA will not seek a
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  Speaker 4: second trial and will move for a plea bargain situation
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  Speaker 4: with Reddington on behalf of his client.
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  Speaker 1: Even though 100% of legal analysts, people that are actual attorneys,
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  Speaker 1: say it's going to happen. They've already lit the candles.
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  Speaker 4: They want that three-month, four-month FaceTime on TV.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want to be wrong either. By the way,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: if you watched Saved by the Bell when you were
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: growing up, or your kids do, you're going to know
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: the principal. He was a main character, and unfortunately, he's
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: passed away. We're going to talk about that when we
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: come back, plus a chance to see Stevie Wonder next. Well,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: if you were of a certain age, and I guess
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: that would be... in your early forties and your thirties,
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: then you are going to remember this theme song to
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  Speaker 1: saved by the bell, which went on the air in
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  Speaker 1: the early nineties. And there was remakes and replays and reruns.
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  Speaker 1: And it lasted all the way to 2021. So saved
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  Speaker 1: by the bell was around for generation after generation after generation.
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  Speaker 1: And there is some, there's some bad news. Um, now David,
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  Speaker 1: Dennis Haskins, Dennis Haskins, who used to play Mr. Belding.
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  Speaker 1: Remember him? He was the principal. He was the guy
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  Speaker 1: that was always going, hey, hey, hey, hey, what's going
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  Speaker 1: on here? Well, he's died at the age of 75.
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  Speaker 1: So here's his famous line. Hey, hey, what is going
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: on here? There you go. Every episode he said that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm principal of Bayside High School in the Palisades. By
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  Speaker 4: the way, that high school burnt down in the fires
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  Speaker 4: on the Palisades. The one person that I remember from
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  Speaker 4: that show, Mario Lopez.
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  Speaker 1: He's like Glenn Slice. Why do you have against Mario Lopez?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody loves him. I hate him. Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing is.
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  Speaker 4: This gives me a sort of entree to discuss Palisades fire,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Bass for mayor.
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  Speaker 1: Guess who's ahead of her in the polls? The socialists.
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  Speaker 4: We may end up having a socialist mayor of Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: We have one in Chicago, Boston, New York. We have
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  Speaker 4: one now in D.C. My God, they're winning all the
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  Speaker 4: big cities of the socialists.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And it's because of that Palisades fire. We're lost.
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  Speaker 6: Does anybody remember when Mayor Bloomberg gave us those bike lanes?
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't for e-bikes. It was so we could all
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  Speaker 6: pedal to work and be very healthy New Yorkers. How
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  Speaker 6: many people do you see pedaling a bike in those lanes?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all delivery workers and they're all not here legally,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like.
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  Speaker 4: And the next time you see them speeding by, notice
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  Speaker 4: how many of them have army helmets on because they're
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  Speaker 4: going 40 miles an hour and they know they're going
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  Speaker 4: to crash.
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  Speaker 1: Who wears an army helmet.
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  Speaker 4: Other than bikers on motorcycles, right?
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  Speaker 1: Think about that. No, I agree with you. Let's now
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  Speaker 1: get a talk back about the debate in New York 17,
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  Speaker 1: the House race between Congressman Mike Lawler and the Democratic challenger.
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  Speaker 1: Kate Connolly.
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  Speaker 7: Just so you guys know, the Mike Lawler-Kate Connolly debate
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  Speaker 7: is on YouTube, on the News 12 YouTube page, and
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  Speaker 7: after watching it, this lifelong Republican is glad he doesn't
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  Speaker 7: live in that district, because after listening to Mike Lawler,
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  Speaker 7: there is not a chance in heck I would vote
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  Speaker 7: for him. I wouldn't trust him to pick a dog
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  Speaker 7: turd up off the carpet in my living room.
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  Speaker 1: This political message brought to you by the Democratic National Committee.
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  Speaker 4: Knowing Mike Lawler for many, many years, he does have
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  Speaker 4: that effect on some people because he's like, he's constant.
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  Speaker 1: He's constant. You know, trying to get contribution. He's up.
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  Speaker 1: He's up, Mike. He's up. I think he's very smart.
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  Speaker 5: I just have a question for everybody on the air.
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  Speaker 5: I'm divided on this, on this issue about the lady
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  Speaker 5: that killed her children.
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  Speaker 1: But let's just, just one question.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that somebody in their right mind would
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  Speaker 5: kill their children? There's got to be something mentally wrong
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  Speaker 5: with that person for them to do that. That's all
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  Speaker 5: I got to say.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so if that's the case, if everybody that kills
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  Speaker 1: their children is mentally ill, then I guess they all
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  Speaker 1: go free. And so we won't really have a justice
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  Speaker 1: system anymore. We'll just decide because we're all medical doctors. That, man,
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  Speaker 1: if you killed your child, then you have to be
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  Speaker 1: insane because you wouldn't have done that in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, that could be a defense for many crimes,
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of crimes. I think that would more
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  Speaker 1: apply to the mother. than the father or the boyfriend. Oh, really?
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  Speaker 1: So it only is for women?
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying I think it's very difficult for
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  Speaker 4: society to understand how a mother would kill her own
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  Speaker 4: children if she weren't mentally ill.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and she should be put away forever for that.
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  Speaker 8: There can't be a plea bargain on the Clancy case
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  Speaker 8: unless she admits criminal liability. Her whole defense is insanity.
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  Speaker 8: You can't plea bargain with an insane person. They have
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  Speaker 8: to allocute that they knew what they were doing was wrong.
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  Speaker 8: which is the standard for insanity. So she can't even
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  Speaker 8: take a plea to manslaughter. She wants to go to
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  Speaker 8: a psychiatric hospital. And it looks like that's off the table.
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  Speaker 8: It should be.
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  Speaker 1: That is an excellent point. I didn't think of that.
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  Speaker 1: How can she make a plea if she's insane?
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  Speaker 9: Remember, Larry, they say at 15 cups of coffee, you
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: will poop out Juan Valdez.
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  Speaker 1: Be careful. We're all worried for you, Larry. We're all
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  Speaker 1: worried for you. Fifteen cups of coffee a day, you
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  Speaker 1: drink caffeinated. My, oh, no, my. Now, Daria Albinger with
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  Speaker 1: the 830 News. Daria. Mostly cloudy, a little warmer today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see a high of 69 degrees.
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  Speaker 10: The New York City Council will hear from tech companies
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  Speaker 10: next week about the potential dangers of artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 9: Council Speaker Julie Menon says representatives from Anthropic, OpenAI, Google,
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  Speaker 9: and Meta will go before the entire city council next Monday.
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  Speaker 9: This is for a hearing involving potential risks posed by
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  Speaker 9: developing artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 10: SpaceX made history yesterday, launching the world's largest and most
• 18:08
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• 20:05
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• 20:08
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• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I want to start off by talking about this event
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• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the Cucina Calandra in Fairfield, New Jersey on October 28th.
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  Speaker 1: So you get a dinner buffet, you get the comedy show,
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  Speaker 12: I have a wardrobe team trying to keep me away
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  Speaker 12: from the cannolis.
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  Speaker 1: Good luck.
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  Speaker 12: It's a totally different thing. Like, I'll actually be performing
• 20:53
  Speaker 12: with a shock collar on. Because everyone, including Natalie, keeps
• 20:57
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  Speaker 1: Of the bread. This weird stink.
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  Speaker 12: Natalie sends bread the way like Anthony Weiner used to
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  Speaker 12: text women pictures of other.
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  Speaker 4: Things.
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  Speaker 12: She did. She texted me like, I don't know, like
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• 21:31
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• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the name of this place, Larry, again? It is Cucina Calandra.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: So I'm not going to go there sitting looking at
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: cast characters from The Sopranos waiting for Jimmy.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You won't fail me failure, will it? Probably.
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: No, hold on. Let me clear that up because I've
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: paid off all of those people. I'm in a good
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: place in my career. Can I tell you this? Like
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: when I'm walking down the street now and people go, hey,
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: you Jimmy Fela, I can actually say yes. Whereas like
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: five years ago, I would just start running immediately. There
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: was no follow-up question.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I would just go.
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: So yeah, this is a good place for me.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Because of possible charges or your credit? My tab is good.
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: Everything's fine. Again, I just have to stop this chick
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: who keeps stalking me with the bread picks. If I
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: can get her under control, I got a shot.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: All right, now, Jimmy, we saw the MTV Video Awards.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: They made up like 10,000 new awards, especially for Taylor Swift.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: What did you make of the fact that she dropped
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: four songs, brand-new songs, and one of them is a
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: diss of Joe Jonas? This woman won't give it up
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: with those 12 ex-boyfriends. She won't be happy till they're dead.
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: You know who's got to be watching that nervously? Travis Kelsey.
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: you know, because this, everybody's been saying this forever. This
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: doesn't end good for him. So she's going to write
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: the greatest breakup album of all time. And he's not
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: even going to get a royalty. And he will have
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: been responsible for like 10 of the 12 tracks, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: she doesn't let it go, man. She does not let
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: it go.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I want to, I want to find out from you.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Do you ever watch the Academy Awards or the VMAs
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: or any, any of those award shows? Because, When I watch,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know anybody. I don't know the movies. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: don't know half the acts. They've lost me.
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: Well, that was the best part the other night of
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: the Madonna performance is you couldn't hear the music because
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: everybody was Googling her. You know, all the young kids
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: in the audience, you could hear them typing on their
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: phones and their iPads.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, someone's.
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: Grandma just ran onto the stage. We're confused.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, what did you make of that, Jimmy? To me,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: you know, they were like gushing. And I looked at
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: her like, man, she can't even walk straight.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Without falling to a side.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: She can't even remember what award that they made up
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: to give to her. I thought it was like, man,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: low budget.
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: It was that, yeah, she was so out of it
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: during that last acceptance speech. that Jill Biden wants her
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: to serve four more years in office.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: That's when I knew it was bad.
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: She started rambling, and Jill just cut her off, like, Madonna,
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: you did it, four more years.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I watching?
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: But you know what happened really quickly? They definitely, definitely, okay,
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: gave her all of those awards as a way of
• 24:34
  Speaker 12: trying to entice people our age to watch the show.
• 24:38
  Speaker 12: Because that is, you know, they threw it on CBS.
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: The show's never been on CBS because MTV used to
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: be a channel. And they don't have the channel anymore.
• 24:46
  Speaker 12: So they went with it on network. And they definitely
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: tried to cater to a network audience by having more
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: recognizable people like Madonna and Snoop Dogg who aren't actively
• 24:56
  Speaker 12: burning up the charts, but they're bigger holdovers from a
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: previous generation. But it was such a bad look. Like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: they should have gave her, like, yeah, maybe a Lifetime
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: Achievement Award. You know, but making her repetitively get back
• 25:08
  Speaker 12: up on that stage just felt.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Like a life alone. Hey, listen, I think you are
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a untapped natural resource when it comes to politics on
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Fox News. And since I think that you may be
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a political savant, can you give some advice? If you
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: were advising him on how to fix his popularity numbers,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: what would you say to Donald Trump? to Donald Trump? Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: Ooh, this is the biggest challenge right now. It is
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: obviously is the war and how that's affecting prices and
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: everything like that. And I don't know if there is
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: a plan, like maybe this war is going to end
• 25:50
  Speaker 12: in two days. Prices are going to come down. It's
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: going to save the day. But he needs to ditch
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: his advisors because if people are telling him this is fine.
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: You know, because they don't want to upset him behind
• 25:59
  Speaker 12: closed doors. Like, they're about to nuke the guy's whole presidency.
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: So I would tell him to hire, I.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Don't know, me.
• 26:06
  Speaker 12: Not me. I've got to go to Kachina Kalandra and
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: eat the bread. But he needs to hire somebody that
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: will level with him. I mean, I really think that's
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: the biggest challenge right now.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, guess what? If you knew Donald Trump, nobody
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: gives advice to Donald Trump. He takes his own advice.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: This is his own advice.
• 26:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah. No, I don't doubt that. That's why they didn't
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: replace the press secretary yet. I mean, Caroline Leavitt is
• 26:33
  Speaker 12: really good at her job, but at the same time,
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: he is the press secretary. You know, when you really
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: think about it, the press secretary gives you two briefings
• 26:41
  Speaker 12: a week at 2 p.m. Trump gives you seven briefings
• 26:44
  Speaker 12: a week at 1 a.m.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Then you get a 5 a.m. Then you get a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: 9 a.m.
• 26:48
  Speaker 12: Now he's doing a press conference. Trump had to use
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: the bathroom. Here's a seven-page tweet about CNN.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I just go to Fox News
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and look at all the pictures and try to figure
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: out who's going to be the press secretary. How many
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: people is he hiring?
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: I don't think, I mean, in terms of people that
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: went up to the cabinet, yeah, Sean Duffy, Judge Jeanine, Hegseth,
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: running defense.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: So, yes, no question there.
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: But I don't think this next press person is going
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: to be a Fox person. I think it's very interesting.
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: But I think that obviously Scott Jennings at CNN was
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: campaigning for it pretty aggressively. I feel like if he
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: was the guy, he would have got it by now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 12: So I wonder if there is somebody who is an
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: underling of Caroline that they're just kind of slow rolling
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: behind the scenes. Because Caroline, I was there at the
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: White House pretty recently, and she had some real muscle
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: in that press office. And by muscle, I mean the
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: kind of gals Trump likes, you know, girls that are
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: all a nine and a half and are, you know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: very attractive, very sharp. and willing to go on offense
• 27:53
  Speaker 12: at that podium. So I wouldn't be surprised if Trump
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: is just going to take a nod from his pageant
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: days down in Jersey, and we're going to get some
• 28:01
  Speaker 12: girl in a sash who knows how to yell fake
• 28:04
  Speaker 12: news for three hours a day.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That's a really good call. Jimmy Fallon, WOR host, 9
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• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You're the best, guys. See you.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: Bye-bye.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Well, when we come back, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: are hitting the road before the midterms. But what about
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the next presidential election? How is J.D. Vance doing? Somebody
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: just moved ahead of him. We'll tell you who next.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I know everybody's focused on the midterms right now, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of polling being done on the 2028
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: political election, the presidential election. And it's fascinating so far.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I know it's far out. And a lot can change
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: between then and now. But if you just want to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: look at the horse race and where people are right now,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: for the Democrats, it's all over the place. Some of
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the polls say John Ossoff. Some of the polls say
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. Pete Buttigieg is ahead in a couple of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the polls. Kamala Harris. They may have as many as
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: 30 people run for president. It's going to be a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: clown car for them. But for the Republicans, it's always
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: just two names. Two names, J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And for months now, or at least several weeks now, J.D.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Vance has been on top, sometimes by a lot, sometimes
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: by as much as 30 points, and then Marco Rubio. Well,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: for the first time... J.D. Vance has shown some weakness,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and it's a big poll. It's the Hill Poll and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the Emerson College Poll where J.D. Vance has moved ahead
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: of him, and it's outside the margin of error. It's
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: four points ahead of him. You mean Marco Rubio moved him. Yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Marco Rubio moved ahead of him, and it's up by
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: four points. I will point this out, too. There was
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a conservative caucus in Colorado where they had a straw poll,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and Marco Rubio won by 36 points in the straw poll.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: So I'm just telling you that now because things are
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: starting to change. There's a few chinks in the armor
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of J.D. Vance, and I'm not sure why. I think
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: he's done a wonderful job out on the stump. Remember,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he was sent out first before Donald Trump to campaign
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: for candidates. And I thought he did a really nice job.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Well, I think the advantage to Vance is he can
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: morph into whatever he needs to be. This guy can change.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: He's a chameleon. He was the hillbilly. Trump is like Hitler.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Then he went to Silicon Valley.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: He changed. He can be whatever he needs to be.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Rubio is always the same.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: He's the foreign policy expert. I don't think he wants
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: to get involved in domestic issues.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Now, let J.D.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Vance and Trump do that. And he then becomes bulletproof,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: at least at this point. Because it's the domestic issues
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: that have to be defended. And because he's so good
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: at foreign policy, he doesn't have to swim in those waters.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: So he just looks better all the time.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how wonderful would it be for the Republicans
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to have a guy named Rubio, son of Cuban immigrants,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: running nationally? They got any problem with Hispanic vote? I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: got a feeling that goes away. We'll see. We got
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of years now. Today is National Coffee Day.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: The talkback of the morning and winner of the Curtis
• 31:31
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• 31:39
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• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you said you drank 15 cups of caffeinated.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Coffee a day, Larry. I'm shocked by this still. I
• 31:53
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• 32:24
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• 32:51
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• 32:57
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• 33:00
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• 33:04
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