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FULL SHOW: Memories in radio broadcasting; Best songwriters. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Now on seven ten WOLAW the Mark Simone Show in
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  Speaker 1: for Mark today, here's Jim Ker.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good morning. It's great to be here in the
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  Speaker 2: seventh ten WOR studio. And as a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: to tell you the truth, this is the very first
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  Speaker 2: time I've ever been in this studio. This is the
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  Speaker 2: famous Mark Simone studio here at Radio seven ten WOR.
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  Speaker 2: I've known Mark. Oh, let's see, I got to give
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  Speaker 2: you a little background here about my relationship with Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 2: I first met Mark in September of nineteen seventy seven,
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  Speaker 2: so in September it will be forty nine years since
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  Speaker 2: we first met. When I met Mark, he was the
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  Speaker 2: nighttime DJ at what was then WPIXFM here in New
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  Speaker 2: York City, and his audience predominantly consisted of teenagers at
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  Speaker 2: the time, and I observed him at work. He was
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  Speaker 2: incredibly fun, so creative on the air. To be quite
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  Speaker 2: honest with you, I was kind of in awe at
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  Speaker 2: how he could just put something together in about thirty
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  Speaker 2: seconds and create hilarity on the air while at the
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  Speaker 2: same time keeping the hits coming. He was truly a
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  Speaker 2: great DJ. He then later went on, of course, to
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  Speaker 2: a very successful career as a talk show host, culminating
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  Speaker 2: in this top rated show on Radio seven to ten WR.
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  Speaker 2: But besides the fact that he was really creative, there
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  Speaker 2: was something really unusual about him. Now, you have to
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  Speaker 2: understand that in September of nineteen seventy seven, we were
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  Speaker 2: both very young guys, and we were working with a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of other very young guys, and it was an
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  Speaker 2: era of T shirts and blue jeans and sneakers. That's
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  Speaker 2: how all of us dressed, except for Mark Simone. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking early twenties now, not an older guy, a guy
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  Speaker 2: in his early twenties playing rock and roll in disco
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  Speaker 2: records for a living. At night, you'd go into the
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  Speaker 2: studio and the man would have a crisp white shirt on,
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  Speaker 2: and he had a tie, and he had a jacket
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  Speaker 2: with a pocket square and slacks and shoes that were
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  Speaker 2: polished as if he were a United States marine. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't look like the rest of us looked, and he
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  Speaker 2: didn't carry himself the way the rest of us carried ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: There was a certain kind of bizarre maturity about him,
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  Speaker 2: and it created a very unique situation in our relationship
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  Speaker 2: through the years, because when Mark was very young. To
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  Speaker 2: all the rest of us his peers, he looked older.
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  Speaker 2: He looked like an older guy because of the way
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  Speaker 2: he dressed and the way he presented himself. Well, now
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  Speaker 2: it's decades later and he looks the same. He looks
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  Speaker 2: exactly the same. So when he was young, he looked old.
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  Speaker 2: When he's older, he looks young. It's the most amazing
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  Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen. How can you know somebody for
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  Speaker 2: almost forty nine years and they look the same. But
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  Speaker 2: that's the deal with Mark Simone. Had I only met
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  Speaker 2: him that one day in September of nineteen seventy seven
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  Speaker 2: and then bumped into him on the street yesterday in Manhattan,
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  Speaker 2: I would have immediately been able to recognize him. So
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  Speaker 2: that's the deal with Mark Simone and his you know, appearance,
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  Speaker 2: always a perfectly dressed guy. The other thing about Mark
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  Speaker 2: Simone is he's kind of known as a man about town.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact of the matter is that anytime you
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  Speaker 2: hear a story about Mark being a man about town,
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  Speaker 2: it's true. He knows everyone, and he goes everywhere. If
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  Speaker 2: there's a Broadway show opening, Mark Simone is there. If
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  Speaker 2: you pick up the newspaper. Okay, let me just grab
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  Speaker 2: a newspaper. If you pick up the newspaper and you see, oh,
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  Speaker 2: a very exclusive, star studded book party in a fancy
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  Speaker 2: apartment building on Central Park West, you know, Mark Simone
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  Speaker 2: was probably there. Mark Simone is at every restaurant opening,
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  Speaker 2: He's at every important civic and charitable event, sometimes in
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  Speaker 2: more than one state in one day. I've looked at
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  Speaker 2: pictures that Mark has put up on Facebook, and he'll
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  Speaker 2: be at one event in Manhattan at three in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'll see him at some charity gala in
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  Speaker 2: Connecticut at nine o'clock at night. The man has incredible
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  Speaker 2: energy and he is he is. It's not BS. Mark
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  Speaker 2: Simone is New York's man about town. One day, it
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  Speaker 2: was on a Saturday night, and so that's the night
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  Speaker 2: that I can stay up late because I get up
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  Speaker 2: early in the morning. I get up at three o'clock
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  Speaker 2: in the morning for my regular job. It was a
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night, and I walked into the famous restaurant and bar,
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  Speaker 2: Elaine's none around the world, but in my case it was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a neighborhood bar and restaurant, because live a
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  Speaker 2: block and a half away, you know, and I knew
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  Speaker 2: the bartender is Duffy and Alex and I went in
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  Speaker 2: to go get a glass of wine on a Saturday night,
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  Speaker 2: the only night I can really stay out late. And
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  Speaker 2: I walked in and I could hear the voice of
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  Speaker 2: Mark Simone because it kind of cut through, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the ambient noise in the bar. And I looked across
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  Speaker 2: the room and there he was sitting at a table
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  Speaker 2: facing me. There was a blonde haired woman who was
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  Speaker 2: facing him, so her back was to me, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I waved at him, and he waved me over. So
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  Speaker 2: I went over to his table and I said, hi, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: and then he introduced me to his dinner date, and Colter,
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  Speaker 2: the famous author, the beautiful blonde, famous author, best selling author,
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  Speaker 2: book after book after book after book, and he invited
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  Speaker 2: me to sit down, and I had a wonderful conversation
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  Speaker 2: with the two of them. He introduced me to her.
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  Speaker 2: She engaged me in a conversation about her love of
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  Speaker 2: the Grateful Dead. She apparently has seen The Grateful Dead
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  Speaker 2: and concert like two hundred and eighty times or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. And after about fifteen minutes, I left and
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  Speaker 2: went over to the bar and ordered myself a glass
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  Speaker 2: of wine, and as I savored each sip of that
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  Speaker 2: glass of cabernet, what was going through my mind was
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  Speaker 2: a simple question, how on earth does Mark Mark Simone
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  Speaker 2: end up with Ann Colter as a dinner date? Well,
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  Speaker 2: there was a very simple answer. Mark Simone is Mark
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  Speaker 2: Simone and he knows everybody, and I am thrilled to
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  Speaker 2: be able to spend some time with you Mark Simone's
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  Speaker 2: friends today here on radio seven to ten woar, because
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  Speaker 2: I think to Mark, at least in our conversations in
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  Speaker 2: the hallway here at iHeartRadio, I think that the most
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  Speaker 2: important relationship that he has, besides the fact that he
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  Speaker 2: knows everybody and goes everywhere, the people that he talks
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  Speaker 2: about with the greatest degree of affection. Those people are you.
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  Speaker 2: He loves the people who listen to his radio show
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  Speaker 2: here on War. He spends so much time thinking about
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  Speaker 2: what it is every day that he wants to share
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  Speaker 2: with you and respects so much your participation in the
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  Speaker 2: conversation when you call and share your ideas and thoughts
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  Speaker 2: with him. That's another attribute that is unfortunately not as
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  Speaker 2: common as it should be. Mark Simone loves his audience,
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  Speaker 2: and I am so thrilled to be able to spend
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  Speaker 2: some time with you today because I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: know you, because he's talked about you in the hallways
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  Speaker 2: as long as we've been here together at iHeartRadio. And
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  Speaker 2: today we're going to talk about some things that are
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  Speaker 2: going on in New York City. I expect that we'll
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  Speaker 2: have a conversation a little bit later this hour that
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  Speaker 2: we'll touch on artificial intelligence. You know, AI is coming
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  Speaker 2: for us, all it is. There was a story in
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  Speaker 2: the newspaper today about the hundreds of thousands of people
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  Speaker 2: who have already been displaced in their jobs because of
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  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. It is often pooh pooed by corporate executives
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  Speaker 2: who say things like our adoption of AI is going
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  Speaker 2: to make our employees more efficient and make their jobs easier. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's not necessarily the case. It could be AI just
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  Speaker 2: doing your job. We'll talk about that. There's also the
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  Speaker 2: danger of AI taking over your image, your likeness. People
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  Speaker 2: can put videos created by AI up that people will
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  Speaker 2: believe are yours because they look just like you. They
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  Speaker 2: can make the voice sound just like you. There haven't
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  Speaker 2: really been effective legislative remedies to such things. People are
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  Speaker 2: working on it in some cases successfully. In some other
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  Speaker 2: cases it's a challenge because there are big companies that
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  Speaker 2: push back. But I'll have a conversation a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later this morning with one of the women on the
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  Speaker 2: front lines in state legislatures and in the halls of
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  Speaker 2: Congress in Washington, DC trying to create protections for you,
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  Speaker 2: because even though she's focusing on a particular segment of
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  Speaker 2: the population, those people who are in the entertainment or
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  Speaker 2: media industries as part of her job, the fact is
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  Speaker 2: the legislation that she's working on is legislation that will
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  Speaker 2: protect all of us, regardless of what it is that
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  Speaker 2: we do for a living. So that'll be coming up. Also.
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  Speaker 2: I've read in the paper the other day about those
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  Speaker 2: crazy women at the courthouse who are just crazy for
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  Speaker 2: Luigi Mangioni, the accused murderer who was accused of killing
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  Speaker 2: a man. We could see that where we could see
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  Speaker 2: where that murder took place, right out of our Q
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  Speaker 2: one or four point three studio here in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: One of my personal habits is from time to time
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  Speaker 2: I go downstairs onto the sidewalk when there's a break
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  Speaker 2: in my show so that I can enjoy a breath
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  Speaker 2: of fresh air on the streets of New York City.
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  Speaker 2: And I missed coming face to face with that guy
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  Speaker 2: because of the route that he allegedly took after the
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  Speaker 2: shooting took place by just six minutes. And now there's
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  Speaker 2: a courthouse full of young women who think that he's
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  Speaker 2: the greatest guy in the world. I find that very confusing,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll try to have a conversation about that coming
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  Speaker 2: up as well here at WR Of course, it's your show,
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  Speaker 2: It's Mark Show, and it's your show. I'm just temporarily
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  Speaker 2: sitting here in this chair. So we're going to ask
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  Speaker 2: you to call the Voice of New York at eight
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  Speaker 2: hundred and three to two one zero seven ten to
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  Speaker 2: speak to us about whatever might be on your mind,
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  Speaker 2: because we'd love to hear from you this morning here
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  Speaker 2: on the Mark Simone Show at Radio seven to ten WOR.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jim Kerr. Remember, I'm open to just about anything.
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  Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, although we do have those
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  Speaker 2: topics that will be coming up a little bit later
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  Speaker 2: on during the show. So with that, we'll take our
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  Speaker 2: first break and we'll be right back. This is the
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  Speaker 2: Mark Simone Show on Radio seven ten WR.
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  Speaker 1: Now more of the Mark Simone show on seven ten
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  Speaker 1: WOO behind the mic for Mark today, it's Jim Kerr.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good morning, eight hundred three to one zero seven ten.
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  Speaker 2: That's our telephone number, and I invite you to call
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  Speaker 2: us and participate in the discussion about what might be
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  Speaker 2: on your mind this morning. Here at seven ten WOR
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  Speaker 2: we have on the line AL from Yonkers. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to work this phone because
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  Speaker 2: there are two buttons next to the name AL from Yonkers.
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  Speaker 2: So which one do I push the one to the left. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, thank you? Okay, Al from Yonkers. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this one will get us AL? Is this you? Al?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Jim, speak to you.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Speak to you this morning?
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  Speaker 6: Good Jim.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I want to say that was really nice
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  Speaker 5: kind words that you had from Mark. And now I
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  Speaker 5: just wanted to also mention you know, recently in the
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  Speaker 5: news we've seen about these groupies showing up at court
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  Speaker 5: and press conferences for Luigi Mangioni, and as you know,
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  Speaker 5: being a seasoned legend, that this is nothing new. We
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  Speaker 5: saw that back in the seventies with Charles Manson when
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  Speaker 5: he you know, was the mastermind of the Sharon Tate
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  Speaker 5: and the Lobbyanca murders. And we also saw that in
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  Speaker 5: the nineteen eighties when the nights talker Richard Ramirez terrorized California.
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  Speaker 2: This movie show up at Court. Yeah, there seems to
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  Speaker 2: be a cult, especially surrounding serial killers. And a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later, probably around eleven o'clock, we're going to hopefully
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  Speaker 2: have on the air with us an experts, an expert
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  Speaker 2: in the field who will be able to share not
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  Speaker 2: only some information about the history of these people and
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  Speaker 2: their worship of these of these these horrible murderers, but
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  Speaker 2: also maybe some of the psychological background that causes them
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  Speaker 2: to act in such a way. But it's really disturbing,
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  Speaker 2: it really.
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  Speaker 5: Is, absolutely really is. I mean, I lived up in
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  Speaker 5: Yonkers and I knew a guy, you know, as an
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  Speaker 5: acquaintance two years ago wrote a book on you know,
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  Speaker 5: the Sun of Sap and it's just amazing how people
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  Speaker 5: could look to a person like Louisi, you know, Mangoni,
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  Speaker 5: a cold blooded killer who you know, Trump, you know,
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  Speaker 5: killed this person. It's it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, David Berkowitz not a real good looking guy. No, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and and uh, Luigi women find very attractive and wealthy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and comes from a rich family. But you know, I
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  Speaker 2: still don't understand because that was one of the excuses.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody the other day about it,
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  Speaker 2: and one of the excuses about the cult of Luigi is, well,
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  Speaker 2: but he's so good looking. Well, you know, if he
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  Speaker 2: killed this man on the sidewalk over in front of
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  Speaker 2: New York Hilton, so what said he's good looking? So
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  Speaker 2: what what would that have to do with anything at all?
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  Speaker 2: But apparently in some people's minds, and strangely enough in
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  Speaker 2: their hearts, it does. It's just it's just unbelievable now,
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  Speaker 2: it really is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 7: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you for calling up. I really do
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. And uh, okay, you have a
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  Speaker 2: good day. Eight hundred and three to two, one zero
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  Speaker 2: seven to ten. That's the number here for Mark Simone's
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  Speaker 2: show on w o R. And we have Olsen on
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  Speaker 2: the line. I believe I'm just playing with the phone here,
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  Speaker 2: bod set Olson Thomas and nope, nobody there. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: see who's online. One good morning, you're on Mark Simone Show.
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  Speaker 8: Hello, Yes, good morning. Uh, this is PD from Queens.
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  Speaker 2: I got what part of Queen's okay.
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  Speaker 8: Actually far Rockaway?
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well there's the difference, so what's on your mind?
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  Speaker 8: Differences? Because I ended up having a stroke. I was
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  Speaker 8: evicted Shelton. Now I'm in far Rockaway on the disability apartment.
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  Speaker 8: Lloyane was gonna say, is I walk upstairs and the
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  Speaker 8: machine that opens the door when you put the army
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  Speaker 8: floor tells you use.
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  Speaker 9: The Metro card.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know they want me to use a Metro
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  Speaker 8: card if they took it away in January.
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  Speaker 2: The Metro the Metro card doesn't work anymore. But but
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  Speaker 2: I but oddly enough, on the number six train yesterday
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  Speaker 2: I saw an advertisement on the train that said that
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to buy any new Metro cards
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  Speaker 2: after December thirty, first twenty.
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  Speaker 8: Five train Jova on an Omni card.
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  Speaker 2: But it's but it's still but the sign was still there.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, may have to use a Metro card.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 8: So I called the three one one. You call the
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  Speaker 8: Mayor's office and let them talk to MTA. I will
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  Speaker 8: not call MTA anymore. Of course, it's a waste of
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  Speaker 8: time and red tape and everything. Since we have a
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  Speaker 8: new maya call the May's office, get a confirmation number
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  Speaker 8: and then go back to May's office and ask them
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  Speaker 8: what happened with this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, what happened? What happens when you felt?
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  Speaker 10: What happened?
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  Speaker 2: Wait a second, wait, I have to ask you a question.
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  Speaker 2: Calm down. Oh, I'm sorry, Okay, all right, I gotta
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  Speaker 2: get a word in here. Did you no, that's okay?
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  Speaker 2: Did you call three one one.
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  Speaker 8: After the fact? I asked the told booth person to
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  Speaker 8: let me in when I tapped it through regular card
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  Speaker 8: and then she had to open the door.
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  Speaker 2: No, I understand, I understand that. But to complain about it,
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  Speaker 2: was it three to one one that you called? And
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  Speaker 2: if so, did they connect you to the right people?
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  Speaker 2: Did they help you at all?
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  Speaker 8: No, they wanted to give me the MTA number. My
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  Speaker 8: bottom line is, if you're going to give me a number,
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  Speaker 8: call somebody who can't answer it. Forget about city council.
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  Speaker 8: There's a may to do the job. Let him go
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  Speaker 8: figure somebody to do the job.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you for calling us this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Let's stay in the borough of Queen's
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  Speaker 2: right now and say hello to Rob on Mark Simone
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  Speaker 2: Show at w o R. Hello, Rob, Hi Jim, how
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  Speaker 2: you doing.
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  Speaker 11: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: First, I would just like to say that I was
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  Speaker 4: on that trip with the Jedaway Getaway. Well we went
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  Speaker 4: down to Miami with you and Liz.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we remember that, well we It was with
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  Speaker 2: Lenny Kravitz, wasn't it. Oh no, No, that was no,
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about the Getaway jetaway with Liz vald That
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  Speaker 2: was That was Valentine's Day in back in the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: nineties when there was a blizzard condition here's no storm
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  Speaker 2: and everything, and we flew on twa if you'll remember them,
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  Speaker 2: on A seven forty seven. We flew to Miami Beach
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  Speaker 2: for the day from the morning and we came back
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  Speaker 2: in the evening on the same day exactly.
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  Speaker 4: That was a fantastic time. We hung out at the
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  Speaker 4: hotel the whole day. It was a great, great time. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: what you're saying about Luigi, it's amazing to me because
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  Speaker 4: when I look at everything with this, the way the
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  Speaker 4: Democrats are, if they could, they'd run this guy for office,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's just there's just no
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  Speaker 4: there's no standard anymore, And I just it's really sad
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  Speaker 4: what's happening to the whole society that this is what
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  Speaker 4: they do. They put a value on somebody who's taking
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  Speaker 4: a man's life. It's just where are we going?
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the quotes I heard from one of
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  Speaker 2: the young women was something along the lines and I
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  Speaker 2: am paraphrasing here, but his kids are better off without him,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: speaking of the children of the murdered insurance company CEO.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine somebody saying something like that. I can't.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: It's really it's sad commentary on a society as a whole,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: where just this is what we've become. Like, Yeah, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: you see more and more of it every day, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: it's just people you know, who have been in who
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: have lived here a long time and everything and seeing
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: the way things used to be. It's it just seems
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: like every day we get a little bit worse. It's unfortunately.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we'll have an opportunity to speak with an
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: expert a little bit later during the show This morning
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: here at wo R. Rob, thank you for calling up, Tom,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: How are you.
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  Speaker 3: Hi?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, you're calling from You're calling from Chicago.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: I sure, am.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Listening on the free iHeartRadio app.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, most certainly. Yeah, okay, why not?
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: So what's up with you today?
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: It's a nice connection throughout the world, you know. So
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: it's it's great. I'm glad I uh have an opportunity
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: to ask you a couple of questions.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe, Okay, yeah, we've got let's see here, We've got
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: we've got a moment. So go with question number one.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: All right, question number one. Okay, So the first time
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: literally I'm sixty or almost, and the first time I
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: was ever in the Big Apple was like last year
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: September October.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I've been.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Upper at a round act and stuff like that, Niagara
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: blah blah blah. But my question is why is New York,
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: the ample of the World Center so disgustingly dirty?
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it depends on how you view the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: city of New York. I don't find it particularly dirty.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm often in cities all over the country, including Chicago,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: which I love, by the way, along that beautiful Lake
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Michigan shore there. And the fact of the matter is
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that you have eight and a half million people living
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: in one city. Manhattan is so incredibly densely populated it's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: only twelve blocks wide and about twelve miles long. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: so you know, some garbage will you know, find its
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: way to the streets or sidewalks from time to time.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: But actually, I think they do a pretty good job,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to tell you the truth, our dsn Y they are
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: pretty incredible here in New York City. You know, we
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: have New York's finest, the police, and we have New
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: York's bravest the Fire Department. And we've got New York's
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: boldest that's the Corrections Department. But we got New York's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: strongest and they're the Sanitation Department. And believe me, this
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: city would not survive a day and a half without
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: all the hard work that those men and women put
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: into their jobs.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show continues on seven to ten. Woo
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: In for Mark.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Today is Jim Kerk. Good morning. It is my pleasure
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to introduce to you Rebecca Damon, who is the Chief
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Labor Policy Officer and New York Executive Director at SAG
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: after that stands for Screen Actors School and American Federation
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of Television and Radio Artists And for full disclosure, I'm
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a member of that union and my fellow members have
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: elected me to serve on the national and local boards
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of that union. Here at iHeartRadio in New York, all
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the people that you hear on the air, we are
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: all members of SAGAFTRA. And Rebecca Damon obviously has a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: very important job as executive director of the union here
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: in New York City, where there are thirty four thousand
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: members of the New York Local, But she does a
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: lot more than serve those of us who are members.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Her legislative efforts have an effect not just on those
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of us who are members of the union, but have
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: an effect upon all of you, especially concerning Ai and Rebecca.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Mark Simon Show.
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: Hey Jim, it's pro good to hear from you in
• 24:47
  Speaker 12: this context, not just in the boardroom on the air well.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is that with state legislatures
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: around the country, different legislative initiatives that you are involved in,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: as well as appearances before congressional committees in the House
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and in the Senate, you've been trying to build bipartisan
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: coalitions to create protections that of course protect your members,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: but also protect the general public at large, for instance,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the No Fakes Act. And I understand a new law
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: wanted into effect, the Take It Down Act.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think this is something that everybody should pay
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: attention to because while it obviously affects sag after members
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: like yourself, like our film, television, video game actors, broadcasters, singers, dances,
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: recording artists, what is happening in the AI space is
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: something that the public really wants to pay attention to.
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: We were really lucky that the Take It Down Act
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: did receive that bipartisan support, along with the support of
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: the American Medical Association, the Artists Rights Awiant, Talents Agents,
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: Blacks Music Artists Coalitions, different agencies, obviously the recording industry
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: of America, just a huge amount of people, obviously the NPA.
• 26:09
  Speaker 12: We were very very lucky.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Butific what specifically does the legislation entail.
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: Yes, it covers platforms have to establish a process take
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: it Down, through which an identifiable individual can request removal
• 26:23
  Speaker 12: of a non con sexual intimate visual depiction. This is
• 26:26
  Speaker 12: super important. They have the platforms must remove the content
• 26:30
  Speaker 12: within forty eight hours and make reasonable efforts to identify
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: and remove the copies. And that just became effective. It
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: was passed last year, but it became effective now and
• 26:41
  Speaker 12: so we obviously are celebrating that because that helps not
• 26:44
  Speaker 12: just our members, but that helps the public. A lot
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: of people don't realize that, Yeah, go ahead.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Because the AI tools that exist at this particular point
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: in time can take anyone and make it look as
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: if they're doing things that they've never done and saying
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: things that they would never say. Yeah, until this legislation
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: took effect, you try to get it removed from a platform,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and it's just tough luck for you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: That's exactly right, and you know, it's it's an important
• 27:14
  Speaker 13: step because it really is huge progress for victims of
• 27:18
  Speaker 13: these non consensual intimate imagery and this AI generated you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: a sexual deep fake and who gets harmed by that,
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: Actually the most is young women and girls. And so
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: this is something that I think everybody cares about. When
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: Congress you know, passed it, it was a stepping stone
• 27:37
  Speaker 13: from our point of view. The President cited in the law.
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: We had huge supporter in Milania Trump, we had bipartisan support.
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: This was very important. And now we're working on the
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: no Fake fact and the no Fake fact was just reintroduced.
• 27:51
  Speaker 12: Which is super exciting, Like I feel like it's breaking news.
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: You have picked the perfect timing, just yesterday, just Wednesday.
• 27:58
  Speaker 12: And that is a new vision, a version of news fakes.
• 28:01
  Speaker 12: No fakes stands for for your listeners, nurture originals, foster art,
• 28:06
  Speaker 12: and keep entertainment safe. And we are building support for this.
• 28:10
  Speaker 12: And what it does is give people control over people's
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: voice and likeness that it belongs to the individual, not
• 28:17
  Speaker 12: too unauthorized AI systems that can produce these things. And
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: so when a listener is thinking about this, people just
• 28:24
  Speaker 12: assume that there is a protected right, and they're often
• 28:29
  Speaker 12: very surprised to know that no, your voice and your
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: likeness aren't protected in a general sense. And so this
• 28:36
  Speaker 12: is a comprehensive federal bill to protect tech voice and likeness.
• 28:40
  Speaker 12: And so as this technology advances, as it sort of
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: runs ahead, you have to have good guardrails around how
• 28:48
  Speaker 12: it's used, when it's used, to be able to protect
• 28:51
  Speaker 12: the people, to protect your listeners.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And in factoring these very polarizing times, you've been able
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to successfully build coalitions including Republicans and Democrats to get
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: this stuff done.
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: That's exactly right. I think everybody can agree that these
• 29:09
  Speaker 13: kinds of issues are important for society and important for
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: people to understand that, you know, this kind of legislation
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: as we educate the public, and we educate both sides
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: of the aisle, you know, AI has all these risks
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: and opportunities like any new technology, and so our member leaders,
• 29:27
  Speaker 13: our negotiating committees, our Government affairs and public policy teams
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: have really worked to make sure that everybody understands the
• 29:34
  Speaker 13: importance of getting this done and getting this done now.
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: There's really not time to waste when it comes to that.
• 29:41
  Speaker 13: And you know, as there's more detection available out there,
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: people are really able to move things forward in a
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: really productive way. And we're excited about the progress we're making.
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: But we need everybody to pay attention and get on
• 29:53
  Speaker 13: board for these very very very straightforward guardrails.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: All right, well, Rebecca Damon, thank you so much for that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And we only have about forty seconds left else, so
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: could you just tell our friends, because sometimes people get confused,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you know, and they get inconvenienced by film and TV
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: shoots on their streets and stuff like that. But how
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: many middle class jobs, middle class jobs, we're not talking
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: about Jas Cloney and Nicole Kidman. How many middle class
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: jobs does the entertainment industry provide here in New York
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: City every year.
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: Well, you are so right, you hit right to it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: The middle class jobs, the working people from the crew,
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: the teamsters, iatzi performers who are not that high profile
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: a list actor get that benefit, and that is tens
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: of thousands of jobs. And there's a big multiplier effect.
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: The businesses, the dry cleaners, the construction yards, your lumberyard,
• 30:52
  Speaker 12: the caterers, all of those things benefit when production is
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: in New York City. And so there's a huge multiplier
• 30:59
  Speaker 12: US ACT and the great amount of tourism that keeps
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: our restaurants and cafes and hotels open that come because
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: people want to see where they filmed the Devilwares or
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: the Gilded Age or any of those things.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Back to the city. Let's go have a car, Let's.
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: Go have a cupcake.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Okay at Magnolia. That's wonderful at Magnolia Bakery. Okay, Rebecca Damon,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for spending time with us on
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone Show.
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: Okay, thanks Jim.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's ten to fifty one and we're going to
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: take a break and come back right here on Mark
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Show at WR.
• 31:34
  Speaker 14: Now More with Mark Simone's Special guests Jim Kerr on
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  Speaker 14: sevent ten woor.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: WR of course the Voice of New York and that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: means your voice. I'm Jim Kerfer Marx Simone. Just to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: wrap up with the AI conversation that we're having, I
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: bought a book last year. I read about this book
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: pre publication and so I ordered it before it was
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: actually published, and then in September, when the book was published,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: it was sent to me. I bought it on Amazon. Anyway,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: this is a nonfiction book, but it read like science
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: fiction and it was really really scary. And it's called
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: if Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies. That's the name of
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the book. And it was written by some very highly respected,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: highly regarded AI researchers and they argue that superhuman AI
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: will lead to our extinction because we won't be able
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to control it and their interests will diverge from ours.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And it was really really scary. So once again, the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: name of that book is if Anyone builds It, Everyone Dies.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: So coming up in a little while here on the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Mark Simon Show at Radio seven to ten WOR we're
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: going to get back to the subject that we briefly
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: touched on earlier, and the show about Luigi Mangioni's supporters,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and there apparently are, for some strange reason, lots of them.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And we'll have a conversation with a person who is
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: a world renowned expert on murderers, on killers, specifically on
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: serial killers, and we'll have a conversation with her and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: maybe get some insight into what it is that psychologically
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: motivates those people who make the strange decision, at least
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: from our point of view, to become not only attracted
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: to because of their physical appearance, but supportive of a
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: person who murders somebody else, not somebody who says, oh, no,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that person is guilty. I want to I mean, that
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: person is not guilty. I want to defend them, but
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: instead of person saying that person is guilty and I'm
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: glad they did what they did because it was a
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: good thing. And that's what some people are saying about
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Luigi Nangioni. So we'll get into that conversation in just
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a little while right here on Radio seven ten War
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: where it's time for the news.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Now on seven ten Woo the Mark Simone Show in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: for Mark today, here's Jim Ker.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Mark is enjoying his vacation and I'm enjoying the opportunity
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: to spend time with you. Mark Simone's listeners his family
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: of radio friends on seven to ten wor you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: to participate in the show, you can call eight hundred
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and three to two one zero seven ten and we
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: have on the telephone with us right now. Doctor Catherine Ramslin,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: who is a world renowned expert on what it is
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that makes murderers tick. She's the author of I believe
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: sixty eight books, doctor, would that be right? Sixty eight book?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Seventy four books? Okay, I'm not completely up to date
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: that seventy four books. She writes about crime and forensic science.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Assistant Provost and Professor Emerita of Forensic Psychology and Criminal
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Justice at the Sales University. You have not only studied
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: people who kill people for fun and enjoyment, for whatever
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: reason it is that they choose to do such a
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: horrible thing, but you've actually had an opportunity to get
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: to know some of them. And I know that you've
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: written about it quite often, and you're often interviewed on
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: television when this subject comes up, and here in New
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: York City, of course. Luigi Mangioni is accused of killing
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. And there are let
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: me put it this way, this is the only way
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I can say it. There are very attractive, young, well
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: educated women who go to that courtroom who seem to
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: be in love with him. Why does that happen? And
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: how often does it happen?
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: Well, it happens for a variety of reasons, depending on
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: the person we're talking about, but quite often they have
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: framed him according to what they want to see him
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: to be, relacking in information about why he would have
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: done this, or really that much about his background, so
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: they can easily fill in what they need him to
• 36:32
  Speaker 11: be for their own fantasies. And so they see him
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: as sort of an activist, an underdog against the big
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: goliath of corporate greed, and this kind of sexy hero
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: in a way, and that just makes them more excited
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: about him. He's handsome, he's educated, he's dignified, he's defiant.
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: That's a very attractive combination.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But he's also allegedly a murderer, yes, a killer, a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: person who they.
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: See righteous violence, the righteous some of them have talked about, Yeah,
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: some of them have talked about he's justified, and that
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: we need to serve this conversation about the healthcare companies
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: and how they've victimized us. And so they see him
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: as more like a kind of a Robin Hood, except
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: he's not really giving anything back.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, isn't it possible for we as a society
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: to have conversations about the healthcare crisis in the country,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: which obviously does exist. There are a lot of people
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: who face great frustrations just in their day to day
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: life trying to negotiate our healthcare system. It certainly needs
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a bit of an overhaul. Can't we have conversations like
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that without murdering a man in coal blood on the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: street in Manhattan early in the morning, shot in the
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: back on his way to a meeting. And these women said,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying blank, Brian Thompson. I don't give a blank
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: he died. That's one of them said. His children are
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: better off without him. They they need to learn to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: not be like their dad. I mean, that's just despicable.
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: Well, it's easy to elevate Luigi when you vilify his victim.
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: So it isn't that they know anything about Brian Thompson.
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: He's a symbol to them, and he's a symbol of
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: bad things. And yes, we can have a conversation, but
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: we're not having the conversation. So something like this shakes
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: people up and realizes, you know, there's a lot at stake.
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: And I think that's what goes into the sense of
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: these women feeling justified in taking his side and supporting him.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not just taking his side, doctor, they lust
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: They left for him. Yes, because he's a good looking
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: young man who in their minds they might want to
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: be his girlfriend, or they might want to take care
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: of him, or they might just want to share in
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: his notoriety, depending on who they are. But yes, he
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: has become a fantasy meme in some of these places.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's take a Luigi Mangioni out of the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: picture right now. There have been other like death cults
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that have surrounded the lives of vicious murderer, serial killers
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that are not necessarily seen by some segment of the populations,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: as you know, being Robin Hood like, and we're talking
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: about just horrible, vicious killers that have young women as fans.
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: Well, sometimes it's what we call a pair ophelia or
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: a sexual deviance of young women even men too, who
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: get excited by violence. But that's a that's a pretty
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: rare condition. What they're doing is projecting onto typically good
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: looking people who are outlaws, who are defying social moraism
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: and laws and whatnot. And they see similar to the
• 40:35
  Speaker 11: the you know, Jesse James and al Capone and some
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: of the some of these people, they're larger than life,
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: and there are people who just want to be part
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: of it. They want to be with Luigi, they want
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: to be Bonnie to his Clyde. They want to be
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: part of that whole thing because it's exciting and it
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: defies things that they feel need to need to be divied.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, now this this killer fan does does the do
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: do ugly killers get cults of fans too? Or they're
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: just out of love?
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: They're famous?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so fame, So fame can because I was just thinking,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: is it just because these killers are handsome? Or in
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: some cases, I mean, you know, there've been.
• 41:20
  Speaker 11: Some some is notoriety and some some of these what
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: we call groupies, only go for serial killers. Some will
• 41:29
  Speaker 11: go for anyone, like let's say Scott Peterson, who has
• 41:32
  Speaker 11: had a certain amount of fame and they want to
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: be attached to that. Some will go for a guy
• 41:38
  Speaker 11: that makes them feel like they can be caretakers, so
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: they think about the little boy. And also women, by
• 41:44
  Speaker 11: the way, there are female offenders who draw male fans too.
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: It's not nearly as much as we see with with
• 41:53
  Speaker 11: young women going for these male offenders, but it's a
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  Speaker 11: wide variety of people.
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  Speaker 2: And you've been studying this well, practically your whole life,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: since you began your academic career going to college as
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: a as a young woman.
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah, about three decades.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you travel all over the place speaking to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: two groups, attending seminars and symposiums. And what is the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: name of your latest book, The.
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: Serial Killers Apprentice, which is about an accomplice, the only
• 42:27
  Speaker 11: accomplice to have killed the adult predator to.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: End this spree, the serial You mean there's never been
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: a Are all I guess the question is, are all
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: serial killers people who work alone? There's never hard to.
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: Generalize all seri because they're not. But about twenty percent
• 42:47
  Speaker 11: work with somebody else, and sometimes more than one. Like
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: this particular serial killer, Dean Coral had two adolescent accomplices.
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: We've seen four and five majority tend to work alone.
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  Speaker 2: They were adolescent accomplices. Yeah, so that's.
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: There's quite a few of Mostly these predators target adolescents
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: or vulnerable, needy young women because it's easier to control them.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: So the people who assist the serial killers they were
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: young women.
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: There are a lot of young women there. Either they've
• 43:30
  Speaker 11: been married to them or involved with them romantically, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: now they're afraid to lose them, so they'll do whatever
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: the guy says. They're called compliant accomplices. They don't really
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: want to do this, but they're going to so they
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: don't lose the guy.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that is really scary. So that's The Serial Killer's Apprentice.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: That's your latest book, and that's available just through the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: normal channels for buying books.
• 43:55
  Speaker 11: Yes, yes, okay, so it actually became an HBO documentary
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: as well.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Oh it did, that's right, I forgot. You also are
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: a consultant to a lot of television shows. Yep, can
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: you name a few?
• 44:14
  Speaker 11: Well, that one the Serial Kills Apprentice. I did a
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: four part documentary on a book I wrote with the
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: BDK killer, Dennis Raider, and so that's called Conversations with
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: serial Killer. I came out with my own show Murder
• 44:29
  Speaker 11: House Flip, which was a great experience, had a couple
• 44:33
  Speaker 11: of seasons for that. I've consultant in CSI Bones and
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: The Alienist.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, it's an impressive body of work.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Seventy four books and a professor and what a doctor?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: You have a doctorate? And is it three or four
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: master's degrees? For four four master's degrees? Okay, Doctor Catherine Ramslan,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for spending time of us here
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: on Mark Simone show at WOR. I appreciate it.
• 45:04
  Speaker 11: Thanks for having me.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. Pretty fascinating, huh. I mean the way that she
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: mentions that she has a book, The serial Killer's Apprentice,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: which is about people who help serial killers, male serial killers,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: and it turns out that they're young women who wouldn't
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: necessarily make a conscious choice to enter into that kind
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: of life, but after getting involved with those people, they
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: become helpful, even though they become aware that what that
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: person is doing is terribly evil and horribly violent. I mean,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: it's just it's a part of life that quite frankly,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I have a very difficult time wrapping my head around,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: as I imagine you do as well. So anyway, I
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: want to thank doctor Catherine Ramslin again for taking the
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: time to spend with us here on Radio seven to ten. Woar.
• 45:55
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• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the fact that he asked me, Well, it was last week.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: He asked me if I would come in. He needed
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: somebody to fill in for a day, and so I
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: said sure, Mark, and I am happy to be here
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• 46:28
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• 46:32
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• 46:35
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• 46:41
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  Speaker 2: radio in New York in the morning, Scott Shannon, will
• 46:46
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• 46:49
  Speaker 2: he's a regular contributor to Mark Simone's show here on WR.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know me, Scott and
• 46:58
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  Speaker 2: in the morning for decades here in New York City,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and it's going to be a pleasure to be able
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to spend some time on the air with him. That's
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• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Wore now more of the Mark Zimone Show on sevent
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• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Today, it's Jim Gerr. Just before I say goodbye to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the topic of these women who are so in love
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: with Luigi Mangioni and sit in the courtroom sighing at
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: the sight of him. Before we move on from that,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: somebody mentioned to me, well, you know, he's innocent until
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: proven guilty. And I understand the presumption of innocence. But
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the presumption of innocence is a legal construct, and that
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: has to do with the manner in which the courts operate.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And surely in a court of law where the government
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the prosecution must prove that a defendant has committed a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: crime beyond a reasonable doubt, there is in fact a
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: presumption of innocence. That doesn't mean that all of us
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: have to believe that the man is innocent. I am
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: not going to be a juror. I already had my
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: jury duty a couple of months ago. I'm not going
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to be a juror in this case. I don't have
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: to believe in a presumption of innocence. I don't have to.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I can look at what I see and make up
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: my own mind whether I'm right or whether I'm wrong.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Because somebody said, well, how can you be condemning those
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: women who are big fans of Luigi MANGIONI if he's
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: presumed innocent, you don't even know whether he did it
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: or not. Well, the way that I view it, those
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: fans they believe he did it too, and they love
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: him anyway. And of course we all hope that he,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: in any criminal defendant, gets a fair trial. But come on, oh,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I can love him anyway because he's presumed innocent. That's
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: just ridiculous. It's the Mark Simone Show here at wo
• 49:11
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• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Mike on the phone from rose Elle Park. How you doing, Mike?
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Good morning?
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Okay, I grew up listening to you, cal Thank you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: That makes me feel anyway. I hope you still do.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know the topic you were discussing before about
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: women boy in love with murderers. So back in like
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: seventy seven, seventy eight, this guy brutally murdered his girlfriend
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: at the high school graduation in Cranford, New Jersey.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, it's in a beautiful town. By the way,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: It's hard to even equate Cranford, New Jersey with terrible
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: violence like that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: So anyway, it's a disturbing topic. But I went to
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: watch a Yankee game at the Riverside End in Cranford.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to mention the names of people, right,
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: Please don't. This guy just killed his girlfriend, right and brutally,
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: and he stepped into the bar like.
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: Nothing ever happened.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: Watching the Yankee game, and his brother convince him to
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: turn himself in, but he went away for twenty years
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: and writing him love letters while he's in prison, and
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: she married the guy who murdered somebody after he got
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: out of prison.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: You know, there there are things, Mike, that that most
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: of us just cannot understand, and that is certainly one
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: of them. So, Mike, thank you for calling. Vincent is
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: on the line from Brooklyn. Hello, Vincent, Welcome to w
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: r's Market.
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: Morning.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: Jim, I believe we're living in a sympathy for the
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: Devil world. And I'm sure you're familiar with the song.
• 51:12
  Speaker 9: And as your next guest, Scott Shannon is and I say,
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: if you listen to the lyrics of that song, it
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: talks about how making things topsy turvy. Now look at
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: this from a deviant's mind, or people who are looking
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: to get the votes of deviants and of law breakers.
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: Look at the Democratic Party that now they put on
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: a platform they elevate the people who come into this
• 51:43
  Speaker 9: country illegally, and they fight against ice and authorities who
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: are looking to get these people out of the country.
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: There's a line in Sympathy for the Devil, and Mick
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: Jaggers says, and all you sinners are saints. The only
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: way you could get people who at one time will
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: consider either the dregs of society, anti social who did
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: who didn't live their life as they should in a
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: correct manner. You have to put down the people who
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: are living their life in a good way, who are
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: contributing to society, who are making something of themselves, and
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: then you could elevate the other people, the people who
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: are living abnormally. Let's say or in an anti social
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: way like this guy, Luigi Mangioni. And that's how society,
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: starting fifty sixty years ago, they created the environment to
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: have these three crazy women go in the courtroom and
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: practically drool over this alleged I'm going to say a ledged,
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: but I saw a video of him putting a cap
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: in the back of Brian Thompson's back to make that's
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: how they make these women rule over these maniacs, these
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: communist teachers we have in the university.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, yeah, yeah, you're you're taking the tentacles,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: you know, all over the place, and and and uh,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you know, Vincent, I do appreciate your you're mentioning the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Rolling Stone song, and thank you for calling. By the way, However,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: a careful listen of Sympathy for the Devil would show
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: that it has a great deal of lyrical nuance and
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really promote those things that are actually presented
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: as happening in society in the song. But anyway, that's
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: another conversation for another time. And the Rolling Stones have
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a new album coming out, and uh, and I just
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: can't believe how how amazingly energetic they are as they
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: continue to make their way through life. I know this
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: is a big, you know, a big turn away from
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: what we were just talking about a moment ago. But
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: since Vincent mentioned the Rolling Stones, I saw the Rolling
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Stones a few weeks ago at an event in Brooklyn,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: and they're ageless. They're absolutely ageless. Mick Jagger goes out
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: on the stage and performs for two and a half hours.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: He never stops moving. I mean, it's just absolutely incredible.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: A couple of things that I wanted to mention this
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: morning on Mark Simon's show here at Radio seven to ten. Woar.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I've been keeping my eye on the poop patrol because
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: the New York City Council wants more bags and more
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: signs and more fines to get rid of the waste
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: via a revised and strengthened Scoop Act. And of course,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I think everybody can agree that not cleaning up after
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: your dog and I've had dogs that and I if
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I can pick it up, anybody can pick it up
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: that not cleaning after your dogs is just, you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: not a good thing. It's antisocial behavior. But let's talk
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: about dogs peeing. You know a lot of people and
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: maybe it's because they just don't know. But they let
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: their dogs pee in the tree pits here in the city,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: and those trees are put up by the city, and
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: the dog peek kills the trees, and those tree pits
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: are right along the curb. So just move the dog
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: another few inches off the curb to go in the street,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: not in the dog pits. Okay, That's just a little
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: thing that I had in my mind that I wanted
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: to share with everybody this morning here on war also
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: on West seventy second Street, there is a great deal
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: of controversy right now regarding a new bike lane, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: there has been a well a unanimity from the people
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood, many of whom are seniors, that expanded
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: bike lanes along seventy second Street would not necessarily be
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: a good idea. The No seventy second Street bike Lane
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Coalition gather over a thousand signatures so far on a
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: petition that is opposing the proposal, and there is going
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: to be picketing that will take place Saturday morning at
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: seventy second Street and Broadway. One of the problems, of course,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: with the bike lanes as they are presently constituted here
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: in the city. Is that people go the wrong way
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: on one way streets. That's a bit of a problem.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: The bikes go faster than cars, that's another problem. They
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: go through red lights. But even more than that, there's
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: parking beyond the bicycle lanes out into the street, and
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: then taxi cabs or ubers or maybe a vehicle accessor
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: ride that would pick up a senior to take them
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: to a medical appointment. That senior citizen has to get
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: over a park a bike lane, over a parking lane,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: and out basically into the middle of the street, you know,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: just to hail a cab or to get into an
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: accessorized vehicle. And that's very, very unsafe, and there must
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: just be a better way of accommodating the needs of
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: people who ride bicycles and people who have a difficult
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: time negotiating the traffic nightmare that can be you know,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: a bicycle lane. Anyway, I just wanted to share that
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: with you this morning here on WR and we have
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Joshua on the line right now.
• 57:34
  Speaker 15: Hello, Joshua, Hi, I would I have something to say
• 57:41
  Speaker 15: about these psychologists trying to explain to us the behavior
• 57:48
  Speaker 15: of the young women loving murderers. Well, I can explain
• 57:53
  Speaker 15: it in just one word, stupidity.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much for that. Patrick, and Danny
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: is on the line. Hi, Danny, how are you today?
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: Jim? You are awesome. I don't know if the audience knows.
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: He used to take your audience to met games and whatever.
• 58:12
  Speaker 10: The vendor would come by, buy the whole tray, by
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: the whole tray, you are the Manim.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. That was a lot of fun and
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: we really, I really enjoyed doing that. I remember one
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: day we had a double header baseball bus where we
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: took a whole group of listeners to a day game
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: at Shay and then a night game at Yankee Stadium.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: And we had different hats and jerseys so that we
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: could change in the bus as we were going from
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: one team to another. Those were fun time. So what's
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: on your mind today, Danny?
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: What's in my mind is all right?
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: You had the.
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: Boston Marathon terrorist, the one brother who turned his other
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: brother into a speed bump, the guy that's in jail,
• 58:52
  Speaker 10: the terrorists that lived. He gets pub letters all the
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: time from women, marriage proposals and everything. Sometimes you wonder
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: half the letters are coming from communist China or something.
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: You know, just to make us like a bunch of
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: you know, a bunch of I don't want to say it, but.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, but what But guess what, Danny, they're not.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: They're not coming from China. They're coming from our own
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: homegrown people.
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: Yes, the women are sending these guys that are in
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: love with them. It just goes to show. Yeah, listen,
• 59:22
  Speaker 10: there are cycle paths amongst us. Any woman that wants
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: to date a guy or go out a guy who's
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: a murderer has to She ain't dealing with no full deck.
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: There's no way she's dealing with a full deck.
• 59:33
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 59:34
  Speaker 10: And you don't see guys writing love letters to women
• 59:37
  Speaker 10: in prison. We ever hear anything like that women murderer
• 59:40
  Speaker 10: and guys writing letters tom of course not. But the
• 59:42
  Speaker 10: thing is, it's something in our society. There's a lot
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: of people out there who, let's face it, the more
• 59:49
  Speaker 10: people you have in the country, and we have three
• 59:51
  Speaker 10: hundred and fifty million, the more the more lunatics you're
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: gonna have running around. That's just it's just a numbers game.
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: And unfortunately, we've absorbed a lot from our countries. Under
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 10: Joe Biden and even before him, a lot of crazy
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 10: people have come in and it's funny, like like in California, right,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: there's a woman who was she was a mayor. She's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: a spy for China.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Right then a suburban in suburban Los Angeles. Yeah, that's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: that happens. That happened. We have, you know, here in
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: New York. We've got a lot of spies here in
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: New York because we've got you know, so many different
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: diplomatic missions and stuff here.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: De Mark Simone show continues on seven to ten. Woo
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: in for Mark.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Today is Jim Kerry Well The Stephen Colber Late Show,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: and it's run tonight. It's rumored that Paul McCartney and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Billy Joel will be there. I don't know if it's
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: been confirmed or not. It wasn't confirmed when I came
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: to work this morning, but I came to work at
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: four thirty this morning, so who knows what might have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: happened between then and now. But we have with us
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: someone who knows a whole lot about music, and that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: is Scott Shannon, legendary morning personality of New York's ZE
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: one hundred, WPLJ and WCBS FM. Good morning to you, Scott,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: and good.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Morning to you, and what an excellent job you are
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: doing today. I was rather just amazed how easily it
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: is for you, how easy it is for you to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: move from one chair rock and road chair right into
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: talk radio.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Scott. But you know, like you, I
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  Speaker 2: just love the radio. The radio has always been my
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  Speaker 2: h my friend, and my companion since I was a
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  Speaker 2: little kid. I listened to it then and loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I listened to it now and love it. And you,
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  Speaker 2: of course, with your legendary career, you were not only
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  Speaker 2: involved in radio, but you were also involved in the
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  Speaker 2: actual music industry for a while. And yeah, can you come.
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  Speaker 9: Up with radio?
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  Speaker 3: Radio is my first love. It's been that way since
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  Speaker 3: I was a kid. And that's all I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to be a GM I didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to do Bob Pittman's job. I just wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: a job. I wanted to be on the radio. And
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  Speaker 3: I love music, It's part of my blood. But it's
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  Speaker 3: just you got to be on the radio.
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  Speaker 2: To play it right. And I was just wondering how
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  Speaker 2: you felt about the fact that The New York Times
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  Speaker 2: published their list of the thirty greatest living American songwriters
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  Speaker 2: and they left Billy Joel off that list.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've said it quite a few times on my show.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's stupid. I mean, who ever put it
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  Speaker 3: together should be ashamed. I mean, Billy Joel is an
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  Speaker 3: American treasure. Yes, God sakes, he didn't. He didn't need
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  Speaker 3: three or four different people to help him write those songs.
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  Speaker 3: What are the few artists who does everything himself? And
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  Speaker 3: Bruce is the same way. But you never you never see,
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  Speaker 3: you know, underneath the title of the song Billy Joel
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  Speaker 3: and three other names like Britney, Britney Spears or whoever.
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  Speaker 3: Even even some of the big pop stars today still
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  Speaker 3: go to you know, Sweden or Norway to get help
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  Speaker 3: on writing the hits. But not Billy. He didn't do
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  Speaker 3: it and he's gone on for years.
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  Speaker 9: You know.
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  Speaker 3: They also left off Neil Diamond got the same Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: same thing, right, Yeah, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a podcast with the New York Times music
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  Speaker 2: critics and the editor and all it did was make
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  Speaker 2: me mad. They were so condescending, you know, So.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Kim, how did they define that?
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  Speaker 2: Well? One guy said, well, Billy Joel's good at writing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, Now, Billy Joel's good at writing a certain
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  Speaker 2: kind of song. And then another one of the critics
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  Speaker 2: just admitted he doesn't like Billy Joel.
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  Speaker 3: But certain kind of songs.
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  Speaker 2: Certain kind of song, you mean, like a popular a
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  Speaker 2: popular hit song, right right, a popular hit song that
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  Speaker 2: people like.
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  Speaker 9: Tell the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see any names in there that you weren't
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  Speaker 3: familiar with?
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  Speaker 2: A few that I that I, you know, hadn't heard
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  Speaker 2: of before. But you know there are others like, for instance,
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  Speaker 2: Lucinda Williams is on the list. I have nothing against
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  Speaker 2: Lucinda Williams. She writes nice songs. She wrote a song,
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  Speaker 2: this Kiss, which Mary Chape and Carpenter had a hit
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  Speaker 2: with and I think nineteen ninety or nineteen ninety one.
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  Speaker 2: It was a good song. But she's on the list,
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  Speaker 2: and Billy Joel isn't. That's the part that makes me crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I was sad. And you know what, Mariah Carey is
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  Speaker 3: a fine artist, but she did or write all those
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  Speaker 3: songs you might have written. She might have helped out.
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  Speaker 3: And I like her and she's fine. But before Billy Joel,
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  Speaker 3: that makes no sense. You can go through there and
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  Speaker 3: take five, six, seven, maybe eight people who should Billy
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  Speaker 3: Joel should have been in before they were in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and by and by the way, Scott, since we're
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  Speaker 2: under these time constraints, I just wanted to mention that
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  Speaker 2: one of our iHeartRadio on Air colleagues, Helen Little, will
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  Speaker 2: be inducted as a member of the Class of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six into the Radio Hall of Fame. You have
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  Speaker 2: often been the master of ceremonies for that event. You're
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  Speaker 2: an important part of it, and you know that that's
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  Speaker 2: a really big deal for Helen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she's a superstar in Philly and she's gonna be great.
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  Speaker 3: She's gonna be good. And I gotta say Boomer asiasin.
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  Speaker 2: Also Boomer, he's a sports legend. On w f A N.
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  Speaker 3: Before we run out of time, tell me what you
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  Speaker 3: thought about McCartney on Saturday Night Live.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it would be acceptable to people, because
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  Speaker 2: they love Paul McCartney so much, if he were to
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  Speaker 2: have a bunch of background singers who could hit the
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  Speaker 2: notes that he can't hit anymore, they would just be
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  Speaker 2: happy to see him on the stage. Love the songs
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  Speaker 2: that he has created that are so wonderful and such
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  Speaker 2: an important part of people's lives and and let some
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  Speaker 2: background singers hit the high notes. How's that well?
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  Speaker 3: I saw I saw him in one of the places
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  Speaker 3: in New Jersey where they have you know, the concerts
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  Speaker 3: now and I noticed that he wasn't hitting all the notes.
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  Speaker 3: There wasn't much different I think he was. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's better in person with his band on stage than
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  Speaker 3: he is on the stage of Saturday Night.
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  Speaker 7: Live, right, because and he doesn't hit.
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  Speaker 3: All the notes. But I got to tell you something.
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  Speaker 3: I walked out of there happy to see Paul McCartney.
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  Speaker 3: You know, here's the guy that's been singing sixty five
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  Speaker 3: in years, right, and he's not hitting all the notes,
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  Speaker 3: but he's still Paul McCartney.
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  Speaker 6: He's a beatle r.
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  Speaker 3: Look what he gave us, Look what he did for music, and.
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  Speaker 2: Scott, I would be Scott. I would be happy if
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  Speaker 2: Paul McCartney stood on the stage and he had to
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  Speaker 2: just recite the lyrics rather than sing them. He's that important,
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  Speaker 2: he really is. It's time for us to go, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: It's been fun talking with you.
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  Speaker 3: Great talking to you and my favorite radio producer, Trevor
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  Speaker 3: probably overseeing things today. He's a great guy. You're lucky
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  Speaker 3: to have him on the air, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much. Yeah, he just got promoted
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  Speaker 2: here at.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know all about it. He's working with
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  Speaker 3: you now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a lot, Scott, appreciate your taking the time
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  Speaker 2: to speak with us this morning here on the Mark
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  Speaker 2: Simone Show from WOR Now more.
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  Speaker 14: With Mark Simone's special guest host Jim Kert on seventen woor.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. You just feel the history here at radio seven
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  Speaker 2: to ten WOR over a century of serving people in
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  Speaker 2: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania. I mean, the fifty
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  Speaker 2: thousand watt signal of this big am station. It just
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  Speaker 2: makes you feel like you're a part of something so
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  Speaker 2: special whenever you walk toward this part of the building
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  Speaker 2: here at the iHeartRadio headquarters in New York City. Ken
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  Speaker 2: Rizzotto is going to be in tomorrow to substitute for
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  Speaker 2: Mark Simone, who is on vacation. I know, Ken, he's
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  Speaker 2: a really great guy. Nice to see him when he
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  Speaker 2: comes in here. Ordinarily, the end of a show, especially
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  Speaker 2: when you're a substitute like I am, you look up
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  Speaker 2: at the clock and the seconds just start ticking away
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  Speaker 2: before you get a chance to thank people who have
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  Speaker 2: been helpful, and with a little less than two minutes
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  Speaker 2: left in the show, I wanted to go right to
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  Speaker 2: that right now. First of all, Mark's producer, Chris has
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  Speaker 2: really really helped me out, you know. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is not part of my regular workday at Q one.
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  Speaker 2: On four point three, I do the morning show, I
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  Speaker 2: play the songs, I have some fun, and then I
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  Speaker 2: go home. Well, today it was take a walk down
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  Speaker 2: the hall and do a two hour talk show on war.
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  Speaker 2: And Chris has been so helpful and he's such a
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  Speaker 2: great producer. And then there's Izzy. Now is he is
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  Speaker 2: the technical director of the show, working all of the
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  Speaker 2: control room equipment. And I've got to tell you that
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  Speaker 2: people talk behind his back. And so I'll say this
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  Speaker 2: live right here on the radio. There are hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: people who work here. Nobody is more positive, more upbeat
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  Speaker 2: every single day than Izzy. Nobody can lift the mood
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  Speaker 2: of a room quicker than he can with a smile
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  Speaker 2: and a sparkle in his eye for everyone. Every day
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  Speaker 2: it can be gloomy, there can be thunder and lightning
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  Speaker 2: and rain, and it doesn't matter. When he walks on
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  Speaker 2: the floor, everything gets a little bit brighter, and thank
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  Speaker 2: you for helping out this morning here on Mark Simon's show.
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  Speaker 2: This has really been a lot of fun for me.
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  Speaker 2: And of course we've got Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton
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  Speaker 2: coming up for you. First, we're going to find out
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  Speaker 2: what is going on in the world. We've got the
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  Speaker 2: long holiday weekend coming up. I'll be back on the
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  Speaker 2: air tomorrow morning at five o'clock dark and early on
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  Speaker 2: New York's rock station, You Wanna four point three. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Jim Kurth. Thank you so much for listening. It is
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  Speaker 2: twelve noon