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The Subtle Art Of Simplicity With DANKO JONES · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: My name's Daniel Jones. I'm the singer and guitarist in
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  Speaker 1: DANKL Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic mate, thanks for joining us this evening.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, no problem.
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  Speaker 2: So Danko Jones are releasing your twelve studio album, Leo Rising,
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  Speaker 2: on November twenty First, mate, what's this period like for you? Like,
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  Speaker 2: do you sort of sit back and second guess what
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  Speaker 2: you could have done or you might have done differently,
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  Speaker 2: or do you put it to bed and move.
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  Speaker 1: On in terms of like previous albums.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well just generally, Yeah, like you've got a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a wait from now until it comes out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, we've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: for twenty nine years. There's always gonna be some regrets.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it would be uh a
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  Speaker 1: proper band if there weren't, But those regrets are outweighed by,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all the records we've put out that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty proud of, including this new one. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I sure there's going to be regrets, but
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  Speaker 1: I'd much rather focus on there's still a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff we've done that I'm pretty proud of. So in fact,
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  Speaker 1: most of it is so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm lucky enough to you've had to listen
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  Speaker 2: to the album before this interview, and she's an absolutely
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  Speaker 2: crack up mite. But what I like about you guys
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  Speaker 2: is you don't try and reinvent the wheel when you
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  Speaker 2: do an album, but you add enough lub to make
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  Speaker 2: it turn faster. You know, you just sort of you
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  Speaker 2: got your made potatoes and you just expand upon it
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  Speaker 2: every time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, thanks man, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really think there's a need to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel of rock in twenty twenty five. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, there's still room for
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  Speaker 1: making it sound fresh. Uh So that's kind of our goal.
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  Speaker 1: We're not trying to create a new genre of rock music,
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  Speaker 1: but we're just trying to make it sound fresh. If
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  Speaker 1: there's any sort of goal that you have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so dive into the album a bit more musically,
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  Speaker 2: like He is essentially a rock album, that dive into
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  Speaker 2: the musical dynamics of it a bit date before us
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  Speaker 2: and tell us what you're going for.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. I mean, it doesn't change album. Every album is
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  Speaker 1: the same as is the next, and the next one
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  Speaker 1: will be the same, which is just try to write
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of tunes that that I like or
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  Speaker 1: that we we like. I mean, I I write to
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  Speaker 1: please myself first and foremost. If I don't like it,
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  Speaker 1: I can't back it. That's not to say that there
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  Speaker 1: were songs that are there are songs on our previous
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  Speaker 1: albums that I don't really like. Sure, it's always going
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  Speaker 1: to be like that. You're you're striving for perfection. But
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  Speaker 1: at the moment of inception, when when when we were
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  Speaker 1: you know, coming up with it and it was starting
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  Speaker 1: to become a song, all the way into the studio
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  Speaker 1: awarding it, we all backed it, you know, we all
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  Speaker 1: thought they were great. We all thought that they would
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  Speaker 1: be potential singles. And then once the record's done and
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  Speaker 1: the dust settles, you kind of and you have some
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  Speaker 1: space from it, you kind of reassess it or look
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  Speaker 1: at it differently, and you know, things come more into focus,
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  Speaker 1: or songs come more into focus. On this new album,
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  Speaker 1: I thought track five I'm Going Blind, was going to
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  Speaker 1: be the single. I never choose the singles, but I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was a potential, very high potential to be
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  Speaker 1: a single in it. It is not going to be,
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  Speaker 1: so you just don't know, you know, what ends up
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  Speaker 1: anchoring the record or pushing the four album forward. We've
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  Speaker 1: all heard those records by bands where you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: the song the single drew you to the album or
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  Speaker 1: the band, but then when you got the album you
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  Speaker 1: listen to it, there's like two or three other tracks
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  Speaker 1: that are way better than the song that drew you
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  Speaker 1: to the band. So I mean that's you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's all it's all subjective, but you just never know.
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  Speaker 1: So the goal is always just to please yourself. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy with the songs we wrote, whether there's singles
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  Speaker 1: or not, or whether people get to hear it or not.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: Now, speaking of singles, might like today you've released what
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  Speaker 2: you need and every day it is a Saturday night,
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  Speaker 2: So are they a good sonic representation of what you
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  Speaker 2: expect that role?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I stand behind those songs as
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  Speaker 1: like good representatives for the rest of the record and
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  Speaker 1: for us as a band. I mean, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: we've written songs that are in the similar sounding vein
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  Speaker 1: in the past. You know, every day a Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: is kind of like a stab at a rock anthem,
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  Speaker 1: which is something I always try to do on every
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  Speaker 1: albu and I only believe we got it on the
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  Speaker 1: last record, previous Electric Sounds with the song good Time,
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  Speaker 1: and so every Day is Saturday Night is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like it's follow up. So for example, Kiss wrote I
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  Speaker 1: want to rock and roll all night party every day,
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  Speaker 1: and then they followed it up with Shouted Out Loud.
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  Speaker 1: So every day is Saturday Night. It is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like our shout it out Loud?
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  Speaker 2: Nice now and what you need also open to the
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  Speaker 2: album in the modern music cage where people rarely listen
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  Speaker 2: to a full album start to finish, Like you still
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  Speaker 2: put as much thought into the lead single or does
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  Speaker 2: it sort of become irrelevant?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I just wrote, we just write songs just
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  Speaker 1: the way, like I said, just to please us. If
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  Speaker 1: the song is fast and energetic, that's a great song.
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  Speaker 1: If the song is mid tempo and kind of like pulsating,
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  Speaker 1: oh that's a great song too. For what you need
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  Speaker 1: to be the first single or the lead off track
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. At this point, I had no idea,
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  Speaker 1: honest to be honest with you, as if I haven't been,
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  Speaker 1: But what you need? I originally in my head was thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be like a probably like a
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  Speaker 1: mid tempo, mid album, high energy track to kind of
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  Speaker 1: like bring the listener back if you're listening to the
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  Speaker 1: whole album, the journey would be like, oh, okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of mid tempo songs, but what you need
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  Speaker 1: would bring up the listener and bring up the energy
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  Speaker 1: of the album. Again, we've done that in the past
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  Speaker 1: with previous albums, So I thought it was going to
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  Speaker 1: get slotted in that spot. But then jc ur bass
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  Speaker 1: player he sequences the albums, he put it at the
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  Speaker 1: first the top like he put it as a leadoff track,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like really, And then I thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there isn't any other song that could
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  Speaker 1: really like calm out, you know, all Guns Blazing like
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  Speaker 1: that song for the record, because a lot of it,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the songs were mid tempo, especially the
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  Speaker 1: second half. So yeah, it made sense once I kind
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  Speaker 1: of I thought about it. So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then the press release CAOL was Leah Rising maybe the
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  Speaker 2: most uplifting and inspirational Danko Giants album to date. Would
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  Speaker 2: you agree with that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not as if I don't agree
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  Speaker 1: with it, but I don't know. I, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I just write. You know, we get a deadline and
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  Speaker 1: then I start writing, and then whatever comes out in
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  Speaker 1: that window of time is what what we were left
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  Speaker 1: with and what we can put out. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know, but I mean the writing process for this
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  Speaker 1: album was long, but when we did come up with
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  Speaker 1: an idea, it was we kind of all knew, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, that's going to be on the record.
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  Speaker 1: So it wasn't as if we were like trying to
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  Speaker 1: trying to like look under the look under the carpet
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  Speaker 1: to find any ideas.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got a Marty Friedman has pissed on the
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  Speaker 2: track Domit in the rough lot. We don't know what
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  Speaker 2: alleged he is, but what was the thought crisis behind
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  Speaker 2: bringing him in for that particular song?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean I was on Marty's album Inferno,
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  Speaker 1: what was it twenty fourteen, So it's been over ten
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  Speaker 1: years since I was on Marty's album, And since twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: we've put out what is it, four or five albums
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  Speaker 1: and there's just not been an opportunity or a moment
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  Speaker 1: or a song where we could hear him on it.
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  Speaker 1: And that was definitely like we had tracked it, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I could have done the solo on that
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  Speaker 1: album like any other song of ours, but but really
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  Speaker 1: that space in the song because it's it's very reminiscent
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  Speaker 1: of Kiss, and I know Marty gets it, and it
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  Speaker 1: would just be awesome if we could have like a
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  Speaker 1: really really wicked guitar solo ala Marty Friedman. So let's
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  Speaker 1: just ask the man himself. And plus, it was like, hey, pal,
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  Speaker 1: I was on your album, but we want We didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to just cash in just whenever we could, so
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  Speaker 1: it had to be the right song. So it took
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  Speaker 1: a couple of albums to do that. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we're all really happy. The funny thing is, though, we
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  Speaker 1: played it for one of our guys in the crew
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  Speaker 1: and he heard the album and he was like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, track two, man, that's the best guitar solo
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  Speaker 1: you've ever done, ever done. That is the best guitar
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  Speaker 1: playing I've ever heard. I'm like, thanks, but it's not me,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's like probably one of the greatest guitar players
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  Speaker 1: ever played metal. Thanks for the Yeah, thanks thanks for
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  Speaker 1: at least believing that I'm capable of doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Song. The album called LEI rising to you, which to
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  Speaker 2: me suggested it mud be something a bit dapa the
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  Speaker 2: most significant to the title.
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  Speaker 1: Not really, I mean, I mean, you know, when you
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  Speaker 1: get to album number twelve, you know, when you're first
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  Speaker 1: starting out, Yeah, when you're first starting out with your band,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're like everybody's fighting to get their title
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  Speaker 1: as the title of the record, and you're like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a million ideas. By the album number twelve
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  Speaker 1: and you've got almost two hundred song titles, you just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be okay, like good, you know, So at
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  Speaker 1: this point it's actually a big headache of ours. The
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  Speaker 1: three of us like send emails and lists at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the recording and sometimes it's been to the
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  Speaker 1: twelve hour, we don't have a title. That happened with
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  Speaker 1: a Rock Supreme and Power Trio was also the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Electric Sounds was different because that was a song title,
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  Speaker 1: and then when I guess they heard the song title,
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  Speaker 1: everyone was kind of like, that's a good album title.
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  Speaker 1: So that was kind of in that was that was
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  Speaker 1: an easier album to title. But this one also is
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  Speaker 1: like what are we gonna call it? Like what you
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  Speaker 1: need is not a good title every day a Saturday
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  Speaker 1: Night is a good title, it's just not an album title.
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  Speaker 1: It's too long. Yeah, So Lea Rising was who came
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  Speaker 1: up with I think Rich came up with that title,
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  Speaker 1: and it was basically made sense because our first studio
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  Speaker 1: album is called Born a Lion, and then Leo Rising
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  Speaker 1: is the twelfth album, and twelve is significant in terms
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  Speaker 1: of I don't know, twelve months in the year, twelve,
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  Speaker 1: Disciples at the Last Supper, twelve, twelve twelve. It's a
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  Speaker 1: nice bookend to Born a Lion right before we get
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  Speaker 1: to album number thirteen, which is up next, So in
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  Speaker 1: that sense, it's good Born a Lion. Also, like you know, Leo,
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  Speaker 1: it's a reference to it's an astrological reference. So but
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  Speaker 1: nothing too deep. I mean, we know this is a
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  Speaker 1: band that we don't really think about it too deep.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's other there's other things going on about this
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  Speaker 1: band that are significant enough. But in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: song lyrics and album titles and song titles, like, I
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  Speaker 1: find there's people think about it too deeper than we
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  Speaker 1: actually do.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm glad you actually mentioned album number third a
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  Speaker 2: because you know there's people out there they're going to
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  Speaker 2: say he started with a line in the title. Now
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  Speaker 2: he's going to troth one story. Does that mean he's
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  Speaker 2: finishing up? People always miss three things I saw. I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad he mentioned album third and shut them up. Story
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  Speaker 2: of why okay?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean every band that puts out a
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  Speaker 1: lot of records, they you know, if you're at album
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  Speaker 1: number twenty. Not many bands get to even album number twelve,
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  Speaker 1: So everyone has to cross that line at one point
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  Speaker 1: if they last long enough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you say, this is the twelfth album RTE,
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  Speaker 2: So do you think it gets easier or how did
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  Speaker 2: it come up with fresh standing material? The more you're on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so you do this twelve times and surprise.
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  Speaker 1: You would think logic dictates that you run out of
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  Speaker 1: ideas and it gets harder. But actually it's actually it's
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  Speaker 1: easier than it was for the first two, three, four albums.
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  Speaker 1: So it's actually easier to write songs. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: used to worry about that, especially. I remember our third album.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember I was up at like five in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, going, we don't have any ideas. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have anything. I can't come up with anything because we
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  Speaker 1: only had seven ideas or eight ideas and we needed like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ten, eleven, twelve ideas. Now I don't, And
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's just the reason why is I don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about it anymore. I don't even think about it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I just write, and I know, I know what sounds good,
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  Speaker 1: and I know a little bit better than maybe the
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  Speaker 1: third album, even though by then I knew even I
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  Speaker 1: know more now what this band is and what this
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  Speaker 1: band sounds like, and what riff is going to work
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  Speaker 1: for this band. So what I do is I come
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  Speaker 1: up with all these riffs, I send it to JC,
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  Speaker 1: our bass player, and if he likes it, then he'll
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  Speaker 1: arrange the ideas. So first of all, I gotta it
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  Speaker 1: goes through my vetting process. So there's like, for every
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  Speaker 1: riff I send him, there's ten riffs that were on
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  Speaker 1: the cutting room floor, and then for every ten riffs
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  Speaker 1: I send him, he likes three or four. So there
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  Speaker 1: is a real, real editing process of riffs and songs.
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  Speaker 1: But there isn't any lack of ideas.
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  Speaker 2: L You guys have been going since ninety ninety six
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  Speaker 2: and you've always stayed in the own lay musically without compromise,
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  Speaker 2: And I really admire that about you guys. It's awesome,
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  Speaker 2: but it's getting harder and harder to do in the
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  Speaker 2: modern age of music. Like, do you find that it's
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  Speaker 2: becoming increasingly difficult to stick to your guns and not
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  Speaker 2: follow trends or fashions.
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  Speaker 1: Uh? No, it's quite easy because all the trends and
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  Speaker 1: fashions I'm not really interested in. There's nothing that really
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  Speaker 1: pricks my ears, and I go, WHOA, we should try that.
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  Speaker 1: I think where we're on is a pretty good you know,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. It's kind of like as the every
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  Speaker 1: year goes by, it becomes like an older and older
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  Speaker 1: form of music. But it's timeless, I think, at least
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  Speaker 1: to a certain window of people. But also I think
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  Speaker 1: with the younger generations, there's a lot of them that
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  Speaker 1: go through at least a phase or a trend or
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  Speaker 1: a period where they like this kind of music. And
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  Speaker 1: the best part is when no matter how heavy or
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  Speaker 1: heard a band is or a band they like. Is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the bands that you know, all these
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  Speaker 1: younger generations like behind the scenes and backstage, they're just
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  Speaker 1: cranking a c DC. I don't care how heavy you
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  Speaker 1: are of a band. I don't care how black your
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  Speaker 1: metal is it's I've trust me. I've seen it way
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  Speaker 1: more than once or twice, where the heaviest band on
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  Speaker 1: the planet you would think is just cranking a CDC
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  Speaker 1: before they go on stage.
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  Speaker 2: The hype get there's hype for the future.
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  Speaker 1: Brother, yeah, backstage like no one sees that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, now, before I let you go, bro, I've introduced
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  Speaker 2: a new segment called Fighter Bombs. So basically before we've
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  Speaker 2: spike and I've got three social media and I've found
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  Speaker 2: a couple of fight eyes and I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you a bit more about Okay, last one, this
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  Speaker 2: one I got.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I was feature here on Statute Bowl Beat in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and seven.
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  Speaker 1: Eight. Yeah, that was in Denmark. That was in Copenhagen, Denmark.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a boxing ring you're in?
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  Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, it was their hometown gig in the
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  Speaker 1: biggest venue in the country. They flew me in to
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  Speaker 1: sing that song, and I think Ross Halfen might have
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  Speaker 1: taken that shot. But the boxing ring was because I
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  Speaker 1: think they had they have or had a song, well,
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  Speaker 1: they have a song about fighting that's been used I
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  Speaker 1: think in UFC as well. I could be wrong about that,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: but there is a fighting element to Volbeat, and then
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  Speaker 1: for that show in particular, they got this I don't
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  Speaker 1: know his name, but they got this really really popular
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  Speaker 1: Danish boxer to come out and make an appearance, not
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  Speaker 1: during my song but during the show. So the boxing
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  Speaker 1: motif was it makes sense, you know, cool.
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  Speaker 2: Really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now the second one, when I found his photo, I
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  Speaker 2: read the post and you said that it was very
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  Speaker 2: special to you, and you can see why. I bet
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  Speaker 2: you remember this conversation like it was yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was on the two thousand and eight
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  Speaker 1: tour we did with Motorhead and Saxon, and that was
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  Speaker 1: in Germany, and I was actually interviewing Lemmy for rock
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  Speaker 1: Hard magazine in Germany, and we had had this thing
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  Speaker 1: planned for this interview scheduled for a while, even though
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  Speaker 1: we were on tour. So yeah, a few times on
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that tour he would, you know, I got brought into
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the lot to his dressing room and we hung out.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But this one was was a deliberate kind of stage. Well,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it was staged in the sense that it was an
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: interview that was going on, but that moment, Lemmy's actually
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: telling me a joke.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: That's that's looking pure pure enjoyment, satisfaction on his spicy
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: bro like it's it's just that's one of.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: My favorite photos ever.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: And is that a poking machine in the background? Did
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: they actually take bikes with him everyway?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That machine followed him everywhere all the way till
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Well, look, did you have to put money in it
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to buy it? Like, did you still win out of it?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Or was it just something you compressed whatever?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think I think you just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: play it. I don't know. I'd never played it, but he.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Did fantastic, Right, that's just what I'll be doing these
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: fighter BOMs for now. That's probably one of the fight
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I just gets you there. It's fucking awesome, right, well done.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lemmy was really kind to our band, and he
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: was great with us and the whole band Phil, I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: mean Phil's on Power Trio during the pandemic. I jammed
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: with Mickey for a for a what do you quarantine?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: One of those quarantine jams and we did Iron Fist,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so so yeah, like you know, all those guys in
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Motor had were really nice to us and it was great.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right mate, Well thanks very much for your time.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Leo Arrising is out in November twenty first, and as
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I said earlier, it's it's typical Danko Jones stuff with
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: better so well done brother, and best of luck with.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: It all right. Thanks a lot man, Thank you,