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Bills Beat Chiefs, Dodgers win all-time World Series, Auburn fires Hugh Freeze | 11.03 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Right Time, a Wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont E.
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  Speaker 2: Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. Got a
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  Speaker 1: lot to get to. We are going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: what might be the greatest World Series of all time.
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  Speaker 1: But first, we are coming off another Mahomes-Allen matchup. Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: and Bills. The Bills won. During that game, they threw
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  Speaker 1: a number at me that really was kind of staggering
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  Speaker 1: when it came down to it. They said this is 2020.
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  Speaker 1: That was the 10th matchup between the Bills and the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: specifically with Mahomes and Allen at quarterback. The Bills won
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  Speaker 1: this game on Sunday. That is the fifth straight time
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  Speaker 1: that the Bills have beaten the Chiefs in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they were saying. Of course, the Chiefs have
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  Speaker 1: won four straight times in the postseason. And Ryan, tell
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm being a little bit too cynical about this,
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  Speaker 1: but once they rattled that statistic off, I all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden felt like, why am I watching this?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like it matters at all.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you want, at some point, Josh Allen can't
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  Speaker 3: lose to the Chiefs every single year.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But when you've seen this play out for the last
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  Speaker 3: five years, it does sort of feel like we're doing
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  Speaker 3: the same thing all over again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, damn, why are we here? You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I really got, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they put it at the four o'clock or whatever. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it felt to a degree like
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  Speaker 1: those Manning-Brady games mattered in a way that it did
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  Speaker 1: not feel like this game mattered.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we got a lot more of them. We got
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  Speaker 3: a lot less of them.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is, I think they played 10 times
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  Speaker 3: over the course of their 18 or 20 years they
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  Speaker 3: were in the league together. We've gotten 10 times now since, again, 2020.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the other difference, the Brady-Manning thing was
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  Speaker 1: also so compelling early because it was a while before
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  Speaker 1: we actually thought that Tom Brady was better than Peyton Manning,
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  Speaker 1: except for the fact that Brady's teams kept winning. Then
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  Speaker 1: we got to a point where Brady seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: Manning's equal, if not superior. And then Manning's performance or
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  Speaker 1: his team's performances relative to the Patriots also started to
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  Speaker 1: pick up. I would say the Brady career is interesting
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  Speaker 1: because when Tom Brady was his best, was probably between
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  Speaker 1: the years 2005 and 2013 when they won zero Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 1: But the Brady-Manning matchup kind of had its ebbs and
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  Speaker 1: flows that are kind of in line with the point
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  Speaker 1: that gets made there is that it's not always about
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  Speaker 1: this one person. But even still, I get hype for
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes Allen because it feels none of these Mahomes has
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  Speaker 1: made none of these games feel important when it comes
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  Speaker 1: against these guys because of what it's been in the
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  Speaker 1: postseason with those dudes. It's the same thing. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we get a decent number of Mahomes Lamar Jackson matchups. Now, granted, Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: as I recall, has been pretty thoroughly dominant if quarterback
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  Speaker 1: wins were a statistic, of course. It would be pretty
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  Speaker 1: dominant in that one. But all of it for Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like I didn't let on. Like I watched
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  Speaker 1: the way he dapped Josh Allen up after the game.
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  Speaker 1: They seemed to be pretty warm and friendly. And if
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  Speaker 1: I was Mahomes, I'd be warm and friendly with all
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  Speaker 1: these guys too. If I was Josh Allen, man, fuck
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  Speaker 1: that guy. Like, we could never have a dap hug
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  Speaker 1: after a game. How could we ever, at some point,
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  Speaker 1: I got to stop catching these L's that matter. Caught
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  Speaker 1: that L at your own crib. Like, you know, remember
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  Speaker 1: that time that Buffalo lost a game, but everybody treated
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen like he won it just because they was
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  Speaker 1: ahead with 13 seconds left? Like, somehow, it's all about
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  Speaker 1: the 13 seconds part, and nobody gives Mahomes credit for
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  Speaker 1: walking them down the field with those 13 seconds. Anyway...
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  Speaker 1: We give Josh Allen a heaping helping of credit for
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  Speaker 1: that right there. And I think we still watch these
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  Speaker 1: games in the regular season also. Man, maybe this will
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  Speaker 1: be the time that he overcomes, except it seems that
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  Speaker 1: he always overcomes these. That being said, the Chiefs are
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  Speaker 1: five and four, right? We have developed such a startling
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  Speaker 1: level of respect for them because, of course, part of
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  Speaker 1: this is they got better players or more guys have
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  Speaker 1: come back. You know, since early in the year, this
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  Speaker 1: is not the team that lost those games early. At
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  Speaker 1: that same time, this is still a team that's 5-4.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to have home field for the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: As it stands right now, it is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit tough for them to win their division.
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  Speaker 1: We're at the midpoint of the season. They're two games
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  Speaker 1: behind the Broncos. They're a game behind the Chargers. They
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  Speaker 1: have ways to go to get to that point.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: The Chiefs go win the AFC as far as I'm concerned, Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm the only person that's there.
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  Speaker 1: Once I realized that them playing a regular season game
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  Speaker 1: against Buffalo doesn't matter, it really was like, why am
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  Speaker 1: I even here? What am I doing?
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  Speaker 3: It's starting to feel a little Patriots-esque and a little Jordan-esque. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much goodwill towards Mahomes. And the expectations of Mahomes,
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  Speaker 3: and to be fair, I mean, he's been to, what,
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  Speaker 3: five of the last six Super Bowls?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that has a lot to do with it. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it is, they feel inevitable in January in
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  Speaker 3: a way that is quite rare.
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  Speaker 1: Except Mike was never the equivalent of five and four,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't have great recollection. Except for that year
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  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs lost on Monday Night Football, or the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs beat the Patriots on Monday Night Football so bad
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  Speaker 1: that we all thought it was over. And then they
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  Speaker 1: came back and won the Super Bowl that year. That
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  Speaker 1: is maybe the closest thing.
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  Speaker 3: They won three more Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 1: They did after it was over. But think about this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched any of the Colts
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  Speaker 1: and the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Colts are starting to look like bullies. They smack
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  Speaker 1: the piss out of bums. Like, they run straight through bums.
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  Speaker 1: And then when they play good teams, not so much.
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  Speaker 1: I know they got that win over the Broncos, but
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  Speaker 1: isn't that the game with the leverage penalty?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the weight penalty. And that was, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think that was week two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a game that looked like they were going
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  Speaker 1: to lose against a team that I think that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how good the Broncos are, but I know
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  Speaker 1: they're not bad.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And that was another game. When Indianapolis plays against good teams,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to go. The Steelers beat them and
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers are leading that division, but the Steelers don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like they're a good team. The Patriots also have
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  Speaker 1: this tendency of beating up on bums. None of this
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  Speaker 1: indicates that anybody going to get something on the Chiefs. Right.
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  Speaker 1: They still seem like those guys. They still seem like
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  Speaker 1: that team. But you would think that if they were,
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  Speaker 1: this would be a game that they would win. And
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  Speaker 1: this is when you know you definitely start getting yourself
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  Speaker 1: into a space of your own personal level of confirmation bias.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when something like that happens and you just
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  Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, hey, they'll be there when it counts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually a rather Stugatzian sort of thing. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that was said in that moment, but like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't you worry, guys. They'll be there when it counts.
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  Speaker 1: That's the stage where we are. But tell me one
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  Speaker 1: person that hears that and does not say sincerely to themselves, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they probably will. That seems like it. Because
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  Speaker 1: I did not, I guess I don't feel like I
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  Speaker 1: came away from that game feeling great about Buffalo, which
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  Speaker 1: I don't think going into it, many of us did.
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  Speaker 1: I think the one place where you could say that
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  Speaker 1: you did come out of that feeling pretty good about
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo is their defense. A touch shaky. Right? A touch shaky.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't look shaky in that game. They didn't get
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  Speaker 1: run upon like they've been getting run upon. Mahomes, I think,
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  Speaker 1: had the lowest completion percentage he's had in God knows when.
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  Speaker 1: All of that. These are the kind of things that
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  Speaker 1: can make you feel good. But to counterpoint, and I
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  Speaker 1: can bet you since you're probably going to hear this,
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  Speaker 1: before my buddy Nick does his TV show, they may
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  Speaker 1: roll down a banner, something about them winning their annual
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. which I'll be honest with you, if I
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  Speaker 1: was a Buffalo fan, I think I would find myself
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  Speaker 1: wanting to fight that dude over that one. However, that
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  Speaker 1: seems to be what we got. But nobody else over
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  Speaker 1: there looks good. Denver won a game against the Texans
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  Speaker 1: with a concussed and out of the game C.J. Stroud. Oh, wow. Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing something now that I did not know.
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  Speaker 3: Davis Mills still in the league?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that did happen to me. I saw a drop
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  Speaker 1: back and I heard Davis Mills, except I was mixing
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  Speaker 1: him up with the other one, the one that's a
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  Speaker 1: coach now.
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  Speaker 3: TJ Yates.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Davis Webb.
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  Speaker 3: Davis Webb.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The guy that Cliff Kingsbury kept at Texas Tech instead
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  Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That did happen.
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  Speaker 3: That did happen.
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  Speaker 1: For those who don't remember. But no, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: that the Panthers beat the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Packers are the real team. I feel like all
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  Speaker 1: of us want to say is really good that we
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  Speaker 1: all want to love. And they just won't do their part.
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  Speaker 3: And to be fair, I think all of us feel
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  Speaker 3: that way about Jordan Love specifically.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It's the team and him. Because when he's dealing, he
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  Speaker 3: looks like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: And then he makes... Some of the worst throws I've
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  Speaker 3: ever seen. Just like, like, like through to the other
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  Speaker 3: side of the end zone where today, where it was
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  Speaker 3: just a Panthers player sitting there. It was just boneheaded plays.
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  Speaker 1: He looks like Favre before Favre got it together.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And that's going to be, it's going to be interesting
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  Speaker 1: because the Packers, look back fondly on the roller coaster
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  Speaker 1: ride of Brett Favre. But it wasn't always fond. Like
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  Speaker 1: there's that stretch of those three MVPs that I guess
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  Speaker 1: you become kind of like the man incontrovertibly after that.
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  Speaker 1: But otherwise, that was that was a ride. That was
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  Speaker 1: a ride. And then you got Aaron Rodgers, who, if
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  Speaker 1: he actually had a fault in his prime, is that
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  Speaker 1: he was a little too risk averse. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: the thing. And now they've got who we're going to see.
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  Speaker 1: I think that he is going to be gigantic star quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is, I think the expectations of the Packers
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  Speaker 1: kind of require him to be that superstar quarterback like
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  Speaker 1: right now. And that does not seem to be the case.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of. Actually, I don't have a segue. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to bring up that America's team, the Detroit Lions,
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  Speaker 1: lost a game to the Minnesota Vikings. And that boy, Flores,
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  Speaker 1: he dialed up a heater for the Lions. They just
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  Speaker 1: simply were not there. They weren't ready. They also really
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do a great job stopping the run. But, man,
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you. Being invested in a football
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  Speaker 1: team and then you look up and the other team
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  Speaker 1: quarterback don't even look good, but they winning. I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like how that feels. Now, Ryan, you're a
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  Speaker 1: Saints fan. You don't know anything about what that feels
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  Speaker 1: like anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I remember what that used to feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was a fun, a very, very fun 11, 12 years.
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  Speaker 3: And now it's never happening again.
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  Speaker 2: You did.
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  Speaker 1: Like the thing that people don't understand about the Saints
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  Speaker 1: is without question, the second best quarterback in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the franchise is Aaron Brooks.
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  Speaker 3: Not even close.
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  Speaker 1: It's you guys who don't fully understand that, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even close. It's not even close. There's no rational... Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's not even close.
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  Speaker 1: And they've never taken a quarterback in the first round
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  Speaker 1: since Archie Madden, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: How is this possible?
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  Speaker 3: And they're steamrolling to the number one overall pick in
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  Speaker 3: a year that doesn't have a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Like what do you– under those circumstances, what do you do?
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  Speaker 3: They'll prop knowing if Loomis is still there, I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: he'll draft an interior offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Loomis is going to be there forever
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  Speaker 1: by the way.
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  Speaker 3: He's been there I think since 2001.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: As long as I can remember. He was Chris Greer before–
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  Speaker 3: Chris Greer, who just lost his job.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, guys, shout out to the Chicago Bears.
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  Speaker 1: You guys amazingly won a game. I don't. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: watching the game. I just remember at some point while
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  Speaker 1: Ryan and I are kind of texting, trying to go
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: figure out what we're going to do for the show.
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  Speaker 1: And he says, we got to get Bears-Bengals in there.
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  Speaker 1: And at that point, I had looked up and the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals were ahead in a crazy finish. And there were
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  Speaker 1: 20-something seconds left. except the Bears actually won this game.
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  Speaker 1: But what is crazy? This is the craziest thing to
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  Speaker 1: happen in the NFL this year. And if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. You let me know. But it is week
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  Speaker 1: 10 of the NFL season, or maybe it's week nine.
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  Speaker 1: It is week nine. My apologies. It is week nine.
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  Speaker 1: And Joe Flacco threw for 470 yards in an NFL game.
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  Speaker 3: On 10 yards and attempt.
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  Speaker 1: An NFL team this year looked around and said to themselves,
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  Speaker 1: we got to go get Joe Flacco so we could
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  Speaker 1: get better. And they went and got Joe Flacco. And
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  Speaker 1: they got better. This actually happened. Like to the point
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  Speaker 1: where Mike Tomlin was mad that somebody got Joe Flacco.
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  Speaker 3: Then why didn't we think of that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: All we've got is Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, do you think there's a world in which Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers goes to 470 yards in a game this year?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't. Like, that game they played against the Colts,
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  Speaker 1: I was watching that. Dude, he just looks like a guy. Like,
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  Speaker 1: every now and then there are Aaron Rodgers moments, and
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  Speaker 1: he has, like, we've been watching Aaron Rodgers now for
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  Speaker 1: nearly 20 years, so we know what it looks like.
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  Speaker 1: to be Aaron Rodgers. He has a very distinct style
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  Speaker 1: of quarterback. But no, there's a real live argument that
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  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is a better quarterback right now than Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what happens after you say that, Ryan?
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  Speaker 1: You remember what Joe Flacco did come in the league
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  Speaker 1: three years after Aaron Rodgers. That's how old these people are.
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  Speaker 3: It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: What are we still doing here? Don't any of you
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: guys want to go home and be family men? Some
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  Speaker 1: form of capacity, whatever works. Don't you have something else
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  Speaker 1: that you should be doing? The last thing I want
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: to point out, the Chargers beat the Titans, and that
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  Speaker 1: is not a good look for the Chargers because it's
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  Speaker 1: one touchdown win over the terrible Titans. But it feels
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  Speaker 1: as though, and maybe I'm the only person who has
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  Speaker 1: done this, I have completely forgotten about slash just stop
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the Chargers for whatever reason. Once we realized
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs were going to be okay, I stopped
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  Speaker 1: giving those guys any thought or consideration whatsoever. There's a
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  Speaker 1: good chance they might win their division. I haven't thought
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  Speaker 1: about them in a long time. All right, guys. This
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: is a rather difficult situation for me with this World Series.
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  Speaker 1: And I hadn't quite... I feel like I had to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: sift through some fill-ins. And I didn't imagine that I
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: was going to have to sift through some fill-ins to
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  Speaker 1: watch the World Series, but I did have to sift
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: through some fill-ins. And I realized that... So I grew
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: up as a baseball fan in the era when we
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: were a proper country and there were two baseball leagues, right?
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Because right now we have two baseball conferences. They don't
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: feel like leagues anymore. They play so many... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they play so many interleague games that there's basically one
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  Speaker 1: going on at all times um everybody uses the designated
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  Speaker 1: hitter there are two conferences there are not two there
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  Speaker 1: are not two leagues um and so it's interesting like
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: i played the immaculate grid and for those of you
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: who don't know what the immaculate grid is it's a
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: game that you can play every morning and it'll be
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: different things three by three square with different things on
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  Speaker 1: each axis um and so it'll sometimes be team sometimes
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: it'll be stats or whatever but what it normally involves
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: you doing is playing a game where you try to
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: remember a player that has played for two different teams
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: so did you somebody who played for the Red Sox
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: and the Philadelphia Phillies you could go Curt Schilling you
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: could go Pedro Martinez you know that's how the game
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: goes or whatever and I find that it can be
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: really really tricky for me if you ask me to
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: do this with American League teams because I was a
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: National League fan and so I never actually paid any
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: attention to the American League so anyway I had to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: try to figure out why exactly it was that I
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: had this great level of reservation and rooting for the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Blue Jays in the course of this World Series, right?
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And I thought about maybe, maybe, maybe there's a little
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Joel Anderson in us all. And what I mean by
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that is I noticed that when the Blue Jays are
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: playing against the Mariners, for those of you who don't know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the Mariners are the only team in baseball that has
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: never been to the World Series. Even the Rays, even
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the Rockies, even the Diamondbacks, all of them, they've all
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: been to a World Series. Every team has been there
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: except for the Mariners. And honestly, I found myself hoping
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: that the Blue Jays would beat the Mariners in the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: league championship series just to keep that factoid on the board.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: That was it. Like you realize there's a handful of
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: teams that have never been to a Super Bowl. OK, handful.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I root for one of them. Right. It's a lot
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: more of them. Only one team that never been to
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the World Series. And I kind of wanted to still
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: have a team that had never been there. I don't know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: It just kind of helped or whatever.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: So.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: The Blue Jays had not won a World Series since 1993.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, maybe the difficulty I'm having
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: rooting for them in this World Series is because they
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: haven't won a World Series since 1993. And I want
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to preserve that factoid because I've hated the Dodgers my
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: whole life. And then I realized, no, that wasn't the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: problem at all. The problem wasn't about 1993. The whole
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: problem was about 1992. And for those of you who
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: don't know, about 1992 that is when the Atlanta Braves
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: um two seasons off fresh off of two seasons prior
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: where they had finished in last place and they had
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: finished in last place for four times in five years
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: because for starting one of the most underappreciated runs in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: team sports history anyway they played a world series against
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays and they lost that world series
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: in six games on their home field Canada was out
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: here acting bad in front of us And then I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: remembered why I couldn't get down with that. A friend
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: of mine sent me some video from the little watch
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: party they had for game six at the Scotiabank Arena.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: That's where the Raptors play their games. And I saw
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: them sitting in there. And then she told me how
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: sad they was when they lost. And I was kind
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of like, that's what you get. And you know what?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: That wasn't even fair. You know what I mean? They
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: didn't deserve. They didn't deserve. That's what you get from me.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I would say, though, that a watch party for game six,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: kind of sort of feels like Chance and the Fates. Anyway,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: it got us to a game seven. And by the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: time the game seven had come around, I was squarely
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: rooting for the Blue Jays. And I mean, it really
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: came down to it. I've hated the Dodgers since I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: was seven. I only had some beef with the Blue
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Jays for a week or two, 30 years ago, right?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Squarely in the Blue Jays zone. Um, but I have
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to say, time, I'm also squarely in the Ohtani zone, right?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to see Ohtani do amazing things. It
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: was very clear. I think Otani got on in the first.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: He was the leadoff batter, right? And he was also
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the starting pitcher in Game 7. Let's stop and take
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a moment to appreciate the fact that Mr. 50-50 started
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Game 7 of the World Series. Now, it was not
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: long after he started Game 7 of the World Series
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: that it was clear that somebody else needed to be
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: pitching in the World Series because they was out here.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: They was making contact off your mans. And in the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: second inning, I forget who I was texting with, but
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I was texting with Homie Tinsley.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man. They can't throw him back
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: out there in the third. That's the one thing I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: know they cannot do is throw him back out there
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in the third. And what is the one thing that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: they did? They threw him back out there in the third,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and it went bad. Three-run homer. Had to get him
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: out of there, right? So as this game is going,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and it is cracking in there. I could not... You don't,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: at least I don't, think of baseball as a sport
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: where you think about how loud the crowd is. That
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: felt like as loud a crowd as I could remember. Like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it felt like a college basketball loud crowd. You know
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, it was just, I couldn't believe
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: how cracking it was in there.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: It was loud, and it was like a Duke loud.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It was like on top of you.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Not like a, like a, there was like a difference
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in like the college football crowd. sort of, you know, like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: it's almost cavernous in a way, because you've got the
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: open-air stadium, but in college baseball, they play basketball, excuse me,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and it's just loud, and they're intense, and it's just
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: every single out and at bat was so intense, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I think the college basketball comp's a good one.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I mean, it was nuts, but then it
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: was a baseball game, and baseball, a friend of mine
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: brings this up every time, like, he doesn't watch baseball
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like that, I'm sure he's listening to this, And we
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: talk about this all the time that baseball is such
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a perfectly designed and imagined game. But when you think
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: about it, baseball, it has like built in a rock
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and jock in it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Like when you don't think about it that much. But
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the truth is, like basketball doesn't have a six or
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: an eight point shot. Baseball has one of those, right? Like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that's what the multi-run home run is that. It's got
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that built in. Like, force plays, the idea behind a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: force play and everything that evolves around that. It is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: amazing that the structure of this game has held up
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the way it has for so long because it's just
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: so goddamn perfect. And it leads to such moments of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: not just great suspense, but the ability for everything to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: change all at one time and the ability for a
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: person who should not be doing something to flip things
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: up to actually do it. You don't really get that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: many examples in the other sports of somebody who's not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy to get it done actually
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: being the guy to get it done, right? There are
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not a whole lot of Bucky Dent's in.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: In the other sports, for example, part of that, of course,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is nine guys in a lineup. They're not all there
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: to do the exact same thing. So, you know, all
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But there aren't that many guys who aren't supposed to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: be that dude who wind up being that dude. Also,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: baseball has something that the other sports don't really have,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: which is the slump. There aren't that many guys that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: wind up in situations where they're like, hey, what's going on? Hey, man,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I've been dog shit for like a month now. Yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I know. It's crazy, right? Yeah, just been dog shit
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for a month. That doesn't happen. So how many other
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: sports are there where you have a situation where somebody
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: has been terrible for a month? Terrible for a month
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: has the ability to change everything, right? So who's been
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: terrible for a month? This cat named Miguel Rojas was
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: at the plate. I'm going to be honest with you, man.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I ain't never really heard of that dude until this
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: series got started. Sorry, I'll be there every day. But
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: as he's coming up, and no, he's barely played recently
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: because his bat has been so non-existent. And what I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was thinking about is the whole way the broadcast kept
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: trying to talk about whether or not Otani was going
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to get another at-bat. right? Is Otani going to get
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: back to the plate? Is Otani going to get back
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to the plate? And then finally he had enough of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a chance. Somebody had gotten a hit that was like, okay,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to get Otani to the plate. That is
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: going to happen. And then I thought about it and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I felt like it was a terrible.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Setup for our mans because the way it was shaping up,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Otani could get to the plate and at once not
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: only make the last out in the World Series, but
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: the way it was shaping.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Up, Ryan, he would have also been the losing pitcher.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And I know how we are. We would have given
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: him no grace for this. Because quietly, did he have
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a great postseason or an okay postseason with some great games?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: That's the kind of questions you start asking.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's, I mean, it was a fair question
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to ask. No matter what, this dude Rojas had, I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: mentioned Bucky Dent. There's Ozzie Smith with the home run
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: in 1985. You can go through and get a few
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: other people. This guy who's hitting in the nine hole
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: hits the home run that ties the game. And I
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: am personally so glad that I don't root for the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays because I saw everything or heard everything change.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: right in that moment the next batter was Otani and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: he hit what would have been the third out that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: would have ended the game if Rojas had or it
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: may not end the game but no actually not it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: would end the game it would have been it he
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: just hit a fly ball to left field my buddy
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Nick made the point that he can't think of any
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: team that's ever come closer to winning a world series
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that did not win the world series. And I got
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to thinking about that. It made me think about 2002
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: when Dusty Baker makes the pitching change and lets the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: pitcher keep the ball that my buddy Kirk will never
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: forget as we watched that game together. And he is
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a giants fan. And up to that point, the giants
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: had never won a world series in San Francisco and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: they chanced the fates and the angels wound up winning
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that game. Um, The 1991 Atlanta Braves, though I guess
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: they were only but so close. It was 3-2 after
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: game five. They went back to Minnesota. And Jack Morris
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: threw 10 shutout innings. I mean, what can you do, right?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: What can you do? 2001, the Yankees. It felt like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, game seven, you're up. And Mariano Rivera comes
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: in the game. I think that's as close as any
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: team was ever going to be thinking they won the game.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But the game was on the road. This was at
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the crib. And it felt like they'd owned that game.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And credit to the Dodgers for just keeping on chopping wood, right?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Because it's not like they swung this on a grand slam.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Little by little, just kept coming back a little more,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a little more. And this is why you can't stop
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: scoring runs. There was that three-run homer in the third.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: They scored one more in the sixth, and then they
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: did not score again. That game, by the way, had
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: 25 combined hits in 11 innings. 25 hits. That's the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: other part that can make baseball so interesting is that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it feels like everybody should have had a lot more
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: runs after all those hits that we saw, but you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: couldn't necessarily string it together. Then we get to the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: postseason baseball thing. So what we got now is coming
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: out of the pen is not these guys that ain't
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: good enough to be starters. It's these starters that are
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: too tired to pitch a whole game, but they just
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: coming out there. Like it's like every time somebody goes
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to the bullpen, it's like, damn, you just you've drawn
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: another face card, huh? Like, damn, we just drawn another
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: ace until you get down to Yamamoto, who threw 100
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: pitches the game before. And he's the one that's got
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to shut this down.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Ryan, if you saw that clip, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: right before he faces Vlad Guerrero, where he gives him
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a tip of the hat and then it's like, yeah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: he's like, shit.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I saw a few moments with pitchers where you could
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: see it on their face. Like after it was done,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like the Bassett dude, I think, for Toronto got to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the end of one of those innings. And I've never
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: seen this more clearly. Or maybe I'm older and I
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: watch games differently. Like I'm reading emotions a little differently.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: No, you could see the weight on every single pitcher's face.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon as they walked off the mound, just like, oh. Man,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: because I remember, like when I played baseball in Little League,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and I was never going to be like no big
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: league player, but I was like, you know, baseball was
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: my thing, right? And I remembered like I was a
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: decent pitcher for the levels that I played at. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I remembered how much I loved if you were rolling
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and you were standing out there and it was all
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you and you were in total control of everything. Because
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I always talk about this, that baseball is like such a.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: great smart kid game right you you know if you
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: had just taken the time to figure out everything else
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: your peers probably had.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Not you got you have all these little situations that
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: can only come up at certain times.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yes and if you watch baseball every day like i
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: did you knew them all right and the other kids
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: not so much right like you know how to play
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the other thing about baseball especially as a pitcher was
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: everybody got short arms so they all had to stand
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: real close to the plate And all you had to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: do with a little bit of control is keep hitting
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: them with inside heat.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Inside heat was unstoppable. But I remember how it felt.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: But I also remember every now and then you get
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: your shit rocked and nothing ever felt more solitary.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And more lonely.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And you the one that's got to pull it together.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It's the closest thing to being an individual performer in
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: team sports. It's both sides of that. Being the batter
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and being the pitcher. It's me and you. And we're
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: doing this for everybody. And I remember how it would feel, man,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: when somebody tagged you and you just out there by yourself. Like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: as much as I like to joke and we all
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: do about the unwritten rules and it's like, well, if
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you don't like it, you need to just stop them
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: from hitting the hook. Well, look, sometimes it don't work
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that way. All right? Like, gang recognize gang. Just hurry
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: up so we can get this thing to going, man. Like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I get it because of the solitary nature of it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: And never before had I recalled just watching the weight
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: on everybody's faces. in every single moment. It was so
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: intense and it was so incredible. It felt as close
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to like, the older I get, playoff baseball starts feeling
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: like playoff hockey, where anything could be like, oh man,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: everything swung. Or like soccer is like, oh my God,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: it was just going this one direction. And then everything
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: swung the other way right then. It was so incredible
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and so amazing to watch that on Saturday. In a way,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: it like hit me in such a cool way, like damn.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: This is what it used to feel like all the time. Like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I just fell off from baseball.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: But every time, it's not like I go, like, people
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: are like, man, baseball is boring. Hell no. Baseball is
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: not boring. They just play a bunch of games. But
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that right there, what you saw on Saturday, I can't
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: think of anything that was messing with that. Man, that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was fun.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, let's get to some stories from the weekend.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: It's another Monday, so another coach has been bought out
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: for eight-plus figures. Auburn fired Hugh Freeze after going 6-16
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: in SEC play. He will be receiving a $ 15. 4 million buyout. Bo,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: your thoughts?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yo, so the real problem with this stuff with college
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: sports is the people got too much of a voice.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And this is what I mean by that. Rob, I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: want you to stay with me here. You tell me
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: if you understand the point that I'm making here. Once
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the word gets out that we're going to fire your
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: coach or the coach should be fired or it feels
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like he's going to get fired, it basically becomes a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: self-fulfilling prophecy in large part because of the effect it
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: then has on what's more important than anything else, the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: getting players thing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe that's a little different now because it's a
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: little bit more about money and the player mobility is
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a bit greater. But if everybody says you're going to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: fire your coach, you wind up having to fire your coach.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Especially with early signing day. We got to hurry up
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and we got to make decisions and we got to
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: do this or whatever. And so you wind up in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: this place like Auburn, where it feels like if you're
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: not going to fire him now, you're going to fire
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: him later. So basically, you go ahead and you have
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to make the move. But who is Auburn going to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: hire in a year where LSU is open? Penn State
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: is open. Who else? Florida is open.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: That's the ones we definitely know.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Those are the ones we definitely know. Like, and truthfully,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Auburn is not that much a better job than Virginia Tech.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: It's better in the sense that you probably get more money, right?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: The ceiling of what you can do at Auburn, at
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: least it used to be a bit higher, but put
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the expectations of it on the other side. And I mean,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that's a tricky, tricky job. You'll never be, your top
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: rivals are Georgia and Alabama. And you have to play
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: them every year. Yeah, you play them every year and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you'll never be consistently as good as them. Unless they're
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: fucking up somehow. That's the only way you're there. So, okay.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So Auburn's going to fire Hugh Freeze. The likelihood that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: they get a better coach than Hugh Freeze... Not that high. So, like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I understand why it is that you decide you've got
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to fire James Franklin. It's been however many years, right?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I get why these decisions get made. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: at some point, there aren't enough good coaches to go
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: around and somebody has to look and say to themselves, hey, guys,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: maybe we should wait till next year. But no, no, no, no, no.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: That's not what's going on here. So, no, everybody's going
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to be out here and they're spending these buyouts. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this with your guys, with LSU
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and what's going on with Woodward And the hell that
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: he gets because Brian Kelly has this giant buyout. And
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it was bad business of Woodward to give him the buyout.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: They're also blaming him for the Jimbo buyout, which isn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: entirely his fault.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a little bit of Ross Bjork.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bjork extended him. That's how you wound up there.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: But the truth is, that was what the market became
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: on these guys, is these giant buyouts. Woodward at least
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: learned his lesson because it wasn't a lump sum buyout. Right.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Like it wound up being with Fisher. But the point
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of these buyouts is to stop you from firing coaches.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Like the point of the buyout is everybody basically saying,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: so we're in this for a while, right?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Let's go. We're in this for a while.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But nobody can be in it for a while anymore. Like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the buyout is supposed to make you get some sense
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: about yourself. Instead, y'all just pass the hat. Pass the hat.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: See what'll happen. And Auburn, which really didn't want to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: make this move because they've been looking for coaches. Okay,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: after they got rid of Malzahn. By the way, have
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: not been able to get a coach as good as
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Malzahn since they got rid of Malzahn.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: But.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You can't do this every year, but you know what
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: else you can't do every year? Lose four games in
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a row. So what all is everybody supposed to do?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But if I'm any other school, we're
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: not firing. If we're anywhere near this class of people,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: we're not firing our guy. There's nobody left for us
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to go get. Jimmy Sexton only has so many names
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to refer us to. Trace Armstrong only knows so many people.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, yeah, at some point, like, we've talked
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: about this a little bit with the LSU thing. Like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: at some point, you're going to be hiring the seventh
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: or eighth best candidate.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I know who LSU needs to hire.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: It's a no-brainer decision for me right now. You don't
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: need a forever hire. You just need your team to
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: play a little tougher, right? Be a little stronger at
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You need somebody with a proven
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: track record, perhaps. And you need somebody that'll make the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: locals feel good.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Don't do it. Don't do it. I know it's rude.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Who am I thinking about?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Do it. Use the voice.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Do it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I want to come back to help LSU get back
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: on track. Go Tigers. He ain't got to stay long.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: If you tell him, Ed, we just need you to
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: get this back off the ground, baby. Two, three years. I.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I, if whoever they do bring back, I promise you
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: they will find a job for it. Or if they
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: have any sense about it, Ed Orgeron will be involved.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Ed Ogeron had practice like the boys club. Ed Ogeron
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: had the.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Wayward sons of them single mothers out there participating in drills.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Ed Ogeron was trying to get back to the community
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and y'all fined him for that. I'm telling you right now,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: three years of Ed Ogeron, you might win another national championship.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He couldn't stay, but it didn't mean he can't do it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: It's very amazing that That has become more widely known
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: and more publicized than when he was at the head
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: coach bowl miss and took off his shirt and tried
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: to fight everyone in the locker room.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: In the first meeting with the team. Look, I saw
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: something on the internet where Ed Ogeron said that when
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: he was at USC, he was recruiting Adrian Peterson. And
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: a big part of why Adrian Peterson wanted to go.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: That was his white whale.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Wanted to go to OU. was because his dad was
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: still in the Bing and he could watch the OU
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: games from jail, but he couldn't watch USC games. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Ed Ogeron, hand to God, said that he tried to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: find a way to get Adrian Peterson's dad transferred to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a jail in California. I don't think jail works like that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: But the fact that tells me a lot about the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: things that Ed Ogeron has made happen in his day.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that he thought that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: You can say Ed Orgeron doesn't sound intelligent. You cannot
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: say that he's not resourceful.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Here's what he... I think that's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the best way to put it about Orgeron. I don't
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: think Orgeron is unintelligent at all. I have no reason
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to believe that, but you're right. He is crafty.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I definitely know.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: He is, if there's a will, there's a way, personified.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Hold on, don't give up so fast.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Try harder.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Go Tigers.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: All right, let's shift to music. For the first time
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: in nearly... 40 years, there were no rap songs in
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the Billboard Hot 100. Obviously, this is the pop charts
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: that are, you know, to kind of define music over
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the last 60 or so years. Bo, what was your
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: reaction to this?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Look, man, there was a time, this is almost about
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: 20 years ago, there was a week where every song
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: in the top 10 had a rap verse.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what it means, though, because I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: don't fully understand how the charts work.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right. With streaming versus radio, I don't really understand it.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And TikTok can come in there and interfere. But my
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: question about that is, so what are white folks doing?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Because that's what this chart is about, by and large,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: has historically been. The Hot 100 is what white folks
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: are listening to. That's what you cross over into. It's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like Hot 100, Top 40, all of this stuff. So
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: what are people listening to if it's not rap? Because
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: it's not as though we got like some new form
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of music that's come around. What is the thing or
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: does any of it actually matter anymore? That's the part
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that struck me when I heard this was just kind
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, does any of it matter anymore? Do
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: any of these devices that we use to measure this stuff,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: how much of it actually matters in the year 2025?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Because I look up and a Taylor Swift song is
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: number one. Oh, all these Taylor Swift songs, because now
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: what can happen with streaming is somebody puts out an
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: album and you just listen to all the songs on
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the album and now you got the whole top 10.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I will say this, though. Man, this Leon Thomas guy,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I have heard of him, right? He black. Otherwise, boy,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: it's super white in here. Good gracious. I'm looking at
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the top 10. My goodness. That Morgan Wallen guy, he's persistent.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Talk about someone who I just do not understand,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: but seems to, you know, score a lot of points,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: if you will.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but brother, the top 30 is just a bunch
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift songs, basically.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: It's just people listening to Taylor Swift over and over
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: and over again.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: That is what it is. That being said, we didn't
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: just say top 10. We said the top 40.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: All right, let's shift to something a little bit more serious. Trump,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the government is still shut down and the Trump administration
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: must make a Food stamp decision. Federal court gave the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: government a choice. It can make full payments by Monday
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: or partial payments by Wednesday to spare low income Americans
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: from hardship. This is dealing with the SNAP benefits that
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: affects roughly 42 million Americans. Bo, what was your reaction
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: to this news?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing for me, this has been
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the great discussion that people have had is I had
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: no idea that many people were on SNAP.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: It's a shocking amount of children, too.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: It is a shocking. Well, that would be my expectation
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: is majority children, right? But I am floored by how
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: many people's response to that was, it must be fraud
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: as opposed to, damn, that's a lot of poor people. Like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: this country got about 300 million people. Right. The fact
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that this is what we're talking about is nuts. Right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: That the sheer number of people is what it is. Now, again,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the problem that always comes up in this, and I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: think this has been a thing that's been interesting to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: me with a lot of the moves that the right
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: has made at this point, is because the face of
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: poverty in America is black people or people of color,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: generally speaking, that... The actual fact that it's a lot
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: of white people, I don't want to get into proportion
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: of percentages because I don't know that off the top
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: of my head. But when they do this, they're messing
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: with the people that's they people. But they don't think
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: about it because it used to be that you could
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: just always wield this against poor people thing against black people.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't really work anymore. White people seem to
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more. It's expensive for everyone. They are.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: It's expensive. It's expensive for everyone to eat. Yes.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Don't give me. The price game all over the place
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: is so messed up here. But they're not. You got
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to be careful messing with people, but for so long,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: because that Bob Barney didn't belly full, but we hungry.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: That's real. And those are songs about actual fascist revolution. Now,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: this country is not capable of revolution. That part is
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: not going to happen. I'm just telling you, hungry people
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: is a really bad place.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work out well for anyone. Trust me on that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Right. And finally, the downtown Oklahoma City civil rights sit-in
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that propelled the movement forward is now memorials where it
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: happened nearly six decades ago. Thousands gathered over the weekend
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to dedicate the national sit-in plaza tribute to the Oklahoma
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: City youth and the teacher who helped spark the nation's
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: sit-in movement. Beau, your reaction to this news?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: All right. Now, those of you who know me know
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: why I put this in here is that one of those–
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: people involved in that sit-in movement the leader on the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: student side was my mother barbara and posy jones who
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: was there for the event unfortunately i was not able
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to make it because of some travel hiccups um i
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: bring this up for a couple of reasons um number
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: one obviously congratulations to my mom on this one we
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: went last year to ou where they gave her it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: her alma mater but they gave her an honorary degree
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: because of her work in this movement um And then
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it is great that the city of Oklahoma City, Mayor
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: David Holt, and with a big helping hand from Sam
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Presti of Oklahoma City Thunder, for making this happen. My
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: mother is incredibly modest about these things. In fact, didn't
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: really say much about going to this, which is crazy
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: because they built a statue of my mom in the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: city that she's from, right? And she's kind of like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I got another thing to do over the weekend. Yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I got to hurry up and get back home type
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of thing or whatever. But it's so amazing and so
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: cool to me to see this and to grow up
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: as an adult and realize that much of my childhood,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I did not properly appreciate the magnitude of the work
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that my mother had done. And as I actually thought
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: more of it, that feeling like the world didn't know
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: necessarily or appreciate the magnitude of the work that she
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: has done. Now, these sit-ins in Oklahoma City, what's important
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to note is that if you are a student of
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: American history or Black history, specifically, you think of the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: first sit-ins in this country being in Greensboro in 1960.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: But no, this is 1958. There was a sit-in in Wichita,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Kansas before the ones in Oklahoma City. But these are
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the second, and these were led by children who went
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: into this department store and sat at the lunch counter.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: For two days, it endured the hell that the locals
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: inflicted upon them for two days until the third day
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: they were served. And just like that, they integrated that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: whole chain, the schools. And then I found out, which
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize, that after my mother went to college,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that they took the party to Norman. And they were
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: shutting shit down up there, too. And this is going
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: on in Oklahoma City when she's 15 years old. Like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: this is amazing stuff. And it's so dope for me
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: to get older and to appreciate how dope it was
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and to see other people appreciate it. But another reason
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I brought this up that I think is important. Look,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma is not a progressive place. I say that as
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: a statement of fact, not as an insult. That's something
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I think that we would all agree upon. But in
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: this time, especially where we're seeing people roll back so
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: many things and look, maybe this monument would not have
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: come about if the idea to get it going did
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: not get started, you know, until later, until like in
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the midst of this whole Trump situation. But the truth
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: is we watching them dial back this stuff all over
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the place. And I have to send a shout out
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to the city of Oklahoma City and the mayor Holt
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: for the fact that they did this. That is a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Republican mayor. Now, he's a different kind of Republican than
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of them that you would know. But the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: decision to do this and to commemorate this in this town,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in a place where you would not think that that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: would necessarily happen, I think is a really, really, really
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: big deal. Like I actually had talked to them about
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: giving them some money. to help with this that I
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: never got around to doing. My bad, guys. Let me
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: know if I could, you know, put something on it
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: after the fact. But anyway, it was interesting. I talked
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: to the mayor on DM on Twitter and I said, hey, man,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I would like to talk to somebody about helping with
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the project. And he says, well, you know, the guy
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you should talk to, you probably know who he is,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Sam Presti. And so I get in touch with Presti
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and we're on the phone and he's like, hey, you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: so we take the rookies to Memphis to go check
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: out the Civil Rights Museum every year. And he saw
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: something about the Oklahoma City movement and he says, Why
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: did I have to go to Memphis to find something
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: out about this? And so they come back to Oklahoma
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: City and that's the genesis of this. And then they
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: actually made it happen. And he was there on Saturday
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and was kind enough to speak to my mother and
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to like send me videos and stuff of her there
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But I got to get those people to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: credit for helping to make this happen in a time
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: where people want to do anything but acknowledge these sorts
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: of things. They did that and they did it up.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: So thank you to them. But again, congratulations to the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: dopest lady I know.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, another great day of voicemails. We'll start
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: with the first one.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Greetings, Mr.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Jones and Mr.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Brumley.
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: My name is Earl, and I'm calling from just outside
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: of Philly. I was hoping to get your opinion on
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: a concert I recently attended. Raphael Sabit came to town,
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: and my wife and I decided to drop the 400-plus
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: fees to check him out. We figured he's a great musician,
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: a solid songwriter, and between Tony, Tony, Tony, Lucy Pearl,
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: and his solo projects, we figured we were in for
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: some jams. Turns out it was basically just a TED
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: Talk slash documentary with a live score. My question is,
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: do you think artists are obligated to go like the
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: OJs and give the people what they want? Or do
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: you think artists have every right to express themselves any
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: way they want and we just hope we get lucky?
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: As an aside, we saw Stevie last year and he
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: didn't play as. Been with you since an interview you
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: did with He Who Shall Not Be Named. Thank you
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: for all that you do. I'm up on you.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Shout out. I'm not, I ain't even sure who we
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: not naming. I got another one guy we don't name
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: on this show, but I never interviewed him.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I was curious too. I have to be honest. That
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: was kind of the reason, part of the reason with voicemails.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure. Maybe
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: he'll leave another voicemail and tell us who he was
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: talking about. I'd heard about Raphael Sadiq doing this, by
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the way, on this show. I had heard that. I don't,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, this is what I think generally. I,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I went to a Sturgill Simpson concert. It was either
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: last year or the year before. I can't remember which,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: but I made a very similar point about that show,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: which is, hey, man, I want a show. Give me
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the show. So do the artists have the right to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: express themselves, however? Certainly. But I also think they have
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: an obligation. They know what people pay for. You know
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, if you're going to get a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: little far afield, you need to make that very clear.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: clear when people pay for their tickets. But you know
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: what it is that people paid for. So, yes, the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: artist has the right to do whatever they want, except
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: once you start selling this to people. Once you start
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: selling it to people, it is a product. And you
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: owe it to them to give them their money's worth.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: It's what the last 45 minutes are for. Just run
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: through all your hits.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what it is. I watch
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of Prince concerts on YouTube, and you can
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: tell the different points at which he's trying to make
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a different point, and then it's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, buddy.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Let's go crazy. Let's get nuts. Okay? Okay? Thanks.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Here's our next one.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: What's going on, Bomani Jones Podcast?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Jones, I just want to ask, if any games really
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: stand out to you in any sport or any field even,
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: which is just a historic ass-whooping. As a University of
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Iowa alumni, my freshman year was the 2015 season in
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: which the University of Iowa Hawkeyes met a man named McCaffrey,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey, in the Rose Bowl against Stanford.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: I watched that.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: He whooped our ass so bad, I learned about.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Football that day.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: Like, oh, we thought they were going to give it
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: to him, so they threw it over the top. Again
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: and again and again. And then they let him run it.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: And he scored again and again and again. So any
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: historic ass whoopings which taught you about a sporting event?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Peace and love.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much I got educated per se,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: but January 1st, 1991, Texas played against Miami in the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl. It is the day that I learned that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: my daddy's favorite phrase in the midst of a sporting
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: event is, beat them down! 46-3 is the final score.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Miami won that game, scored 46 points with over 200
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: yards of penalty on the opening kickoff. Robert Bailey knocked
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the kick returner unconscious. It is the most thorough beatdown
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of any sort that I have ever seen. And I've
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: watched the Rodney King video. Never seen anything like this
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: before in my life. Never again. Never will.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And for those of us who are old enough to
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: remember it, we will never forget it. I know Joel
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Anderson's probably favorite football game of all time. Can't even
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: blame him. Just yikes. Just yikes. That's the one. You
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: can show games with bigger scores like that time Joel
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Anderson's alma mater got beat. What was it, like 100-7
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: against Georgia?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I think it was 62-7.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: 62-7. There we go. Nah, nah, nah. It could have
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: been 100-3 the way that Texas got their ass whooped
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: by Miami in that game. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, gold standard.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our last one.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, Bo, this is Grant from Orlando. Y'all talking about
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Wimby reminding me of my college experience. So I'm a
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: big guy. I'm in college. I'm 6'2, around 245, 250.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: So big guy. People always ask me if I played football.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: But.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Because I was a pretty lackadaisical student. I was always
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: in summer school, so I was there with the football
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: players and basketball players every summer. So I was always
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: playing pickup with them because there weren't a lot of
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: folks around. So if they were playing pickup, it was
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: pretty fun. And obviously the basketball players did not play
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: as much as the football players. But one time towards
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the end of summer school, I am on the court,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: and I'm on a team with a bunch of football
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: players against the basketball players. And, you know, tensions are high.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: They hate losing to each other. You know, all football
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: players can make a hoop. All basketball players are really
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: disrespected by that. I'm guarding someone, like, deep on the bench,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't play very much. But, like I said, I'm a
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: big guy, so I'm in the post. And my man
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: gets beat on a pick and roll, so I have
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: to switch on to the big man. And I switch
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: on to Festus Azili, who is every bit of 7'1, 260, 270,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: as we've seen recently. in the league, you know, when
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: he won with the Warriors. So I get switched on
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: to Festus. It's game point. I'm 6'2.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: He's 7'1.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: The Vandy Rett Center is looking like a place I
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: don't want to be anymore. So I get switched on
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: to Block, and I literally walk off the court and
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: let him dunk that because I'm not getting dunked on.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: That's my basketball story about, you know, kind of you
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: describing how playing folks were playing with Wimby. So thanks, Bo.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Love the show.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I love that. He's like, I'm not even going to try.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I don't see the point. I don't see the point.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Ain't no switches. That's the moral of that story. Ain't
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: no switches.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: That is discretion is the better part of valor. Whatever
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: that expression is.
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: There's nothing good that could come from this whatsoever. Hell no. Oh,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: my God. I've never heard of somebody catching the switch
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and just being like, all right, I'm going to go
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: down to the other end. You're ready for offense, right?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Save this energy for something a bit more worthwhile. But
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here
• 54:40
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• 54:43
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• 54:46
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• 55:00
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