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Episode 47: From snacks to fanny packs- Habit Hacks with Audrey · The Habit Lab

• 1:08
  Speaker 1: We all have areas in our life we might feel stuck or overwhelmed.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: So join me, Jenna Zint Habit, Coach, teacher and follower of Jesus, as we go after little bits of better by building offensively small habits that create big impact.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: This is the Habit Lab Podcast.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Habit Lab.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: I have a very special guest.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: Very special indeed, clearly very confident as well, clearly very, very confident Is this how the whole podcast is going to go.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: Yep, buckle up, guys.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this I obviously have.
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: We like to call her my mini-me.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: This is Audrey Zint, we're identical on the outside, but not the inside.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: Wait, you have to say that clearer.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: Say it one more time.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: We're identical on the outside, but not the inside.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: That is a phrase you have started saying recently.
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: This is Audrey Zint.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: She is my oldest kid.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: The one and only she's 11, and she is in fifth grade right now.
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: So tell them what it?
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: Means that you were identical on the outside, but not the inside.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm identical to her on the outside because I'm very tan like her.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: You look like me.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I look like her, mostly the tan part.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: But I look like her on the outside but I'm.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: But I look like her on the outside but I'm my dad on the inside.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: Like she loves to be outdoors, I love movies.
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: She loves to not read.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: I love to read I don't know.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: One time you told me you're like mom.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: You gotta remember I'm just like dad.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: I think adventures take too much energy too do you remember that oh?
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, microphone malfunction here, mic drop, okay, okay.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: So, audrey, we I have been wanting to have you on my, my podcast, but your schedule is just so crazy I know, school, school, school, school school.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for making time.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: Sabbath and then church.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: It's a crazy life, but someone's got to do it, okay.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: So one of this episode we're actually going to talk about how we think of one of the.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: You know, mom talks about habits all the time.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: One of the phrases we talk about a lot it's all the time.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: One of the phrases we talk about a lot it's honest, uh is that habits are solutions.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: So sometimes, when we have big emotions, what's a phrase about solutions that I say a lot?
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: Um, do you want me to help you with solutions?
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: Let me know if you'd like some solutions.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, what you said and a lot of times I actually think of habits, I'll say this in my masterclass is it's habits are a solution for pain points, so things that aren't working well.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: Instead of uh, thinking there's no other option than encountering this painful pattern like, oh, we probably need a new habit here to solve this pain point.
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to invite you on the show because I want to talk about some solutions, some habits we have come up with around diabetes.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: Do you know anybody with type 1 diabetes?
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: No, I know no one.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you have had type 1 since you were.
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: How old?
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Since I was five years old.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: Six, six, six, six years, that's what I said and can you tell them real quick?
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: for people who don't know, what does type 1 diabetes mean?
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: You just did a slideshow about this oh yeah, it's true.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: Um I should remember my facts, keep them in my noggin um type one diabetic means um one of your organs doesn't work and produce like the certain medicine that helps you in what's?
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: what organ?
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Is it pancreas?
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: And then what?
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: So your pancreas stops working and it doesn't produce what anymore insulin okay, so then, what do you have to do?
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: So it's nothing you've done wrong, but it's true, it's nothing you've done wrong, it's just your body, your pancreas has stopped working.
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: So you have a diet, you have an insulin pump and a blood sugar monitor the pump where you wear around your waist in a fanny pack and then the blood sugar monitor is where is um on my arm.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're two different poke it.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: It's just in case you forgot.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: I tapped her body where's my special device that I can feel almost all the?
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: Time it's true um.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: so what I was gonna say, though, is, because of diabetes, we have really had to adopt a lot of new habits, haven't we that we't like most families wouldn't have?
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: And.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: I keep on forgetting.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: I can't just nod because we're recording it's true, you have to use your words.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: You have a lot of words, though, so it probably shouldn't be too hard.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: When you first got diabetes, um gosh, it was a big deal.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: Do you have any sentences to tell them about that?
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: It was pretty hard.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: It was right in COVID.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: I have sentences to tell you.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: Could you there you?
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: go?
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: I don't really know.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: I was in kindergarten.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: I'm in fifth grade now.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you some things?
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: I remember that we didn't get the pump right away, so we had to prick your finger and give you a shot for diabetes every time you ate and you hated it, and I would cry.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: The first like month or two, I just cried.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this, but I'd stay up late at night and cry too, because it was just so sad to know that it's what was going to keep you alive, but it caused you pain and you, oh man, one of the lines that you said I'll never forget this you were looking at me, cause I had to hold you down at one point so that dad could give you your insulin, cause you, we tried all the things but your blood sugar was getting higher and it was dangerous and we just we couldn't wait for you to not be throwing a fit, you know, and you looked at me and you go, moms aren't supposed to hurt their kids.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: Gosh, it crushed my heart.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: I was silently crying because I was like this is so sad.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: I actually stayed up a lot of nights praying and talking to Jesus about it, because my heart hurt so much.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, I did not know this.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: After you went to bed, because I didn't want you to be overwhelmed.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to have room for your sadness without adding mine to it, because you actually take try to take care of me a lot, don't you?
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got sick today and she came in with a pillow and a water cup.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: You're just very helpful and thoughtful for other people.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: So when we were going through that, I didn't want to show you my emotions, okay.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: But what I was going to say is because you have two pumps and diabetes is like a constant, a couple of time a day, daily care.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: We've actually had to have some habits around your diabetes care, and one of the things we talk about with um in my master course is how often, when you're something goes wrong, our quickest thing we go to is pointing the finger at our character, like, oh, if I was better, this wouldn't happen.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: If I was a better mom, if I was more organized, and that has been true with a lot of your diabetes habits.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: But one of the main points we talk about is, instead of being a judge and be casting the verdict of I'm guilty, not guilty, you know, I failed.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: That is unhelpful.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Instead with, when we have something that goes wrong, actually choosing to be curious to see what solutions we can have.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like let me know if you want to brainstorm solutions.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: So in with diabetes, we've had to do that a lot.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: One of the things was that we had to figure out when you were at school what we're going to do to have, like, if your blood sugar gets low.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: We need you to have snacks on hand to be able to bring your blood sugar up, and at first we just started with snacks in the office, but then you'd have it required.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: You missed a lot of class.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: You don't remember, in second, third grade and we actually had meetings with the teachers and they were so kind, but they said it was like starting to affect you, because a few times in a class or a day you'd have to go to the front for snacks and you're walking there and back.
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: So then at first I felt like overwhelmed and sad and then I was like that's true, and I did grieve that.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: But then I just got to the point of like, okay, what solutions could we have?
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: And that's when we made do you remember those little boxes that we Snack?
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: bins, yep.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: So we have little In second grade.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: So after that we realized like okay, what can we do about this?
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: Did we do that in third?
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: grade, I think it might've been third grade.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: That was our first, one of our first habits after we were experiencing results we didn't like.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: At first I just felt sad and overwhelmed, and that was accurate.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: But that didn't lead to any solutions to get different results.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: So that was a helpful habit.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: We put snack bins in a bunch of your teacher's room.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: Then the next year we experienced you were having lows on the playground.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you play hard.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this girl don't play.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: I mean play hard to go home.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Accurate, that's the saying that you live by.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is helpful.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you for letting the people know, um, but what I was going to say is from that Reese.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: I remember that year.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Every time it happens like the reason these habits have formed is because there was pain points.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: What I don't do is don't I feel my emotion Like it's, like a wave, but I don't let them cast my forever reality that I can't figure.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: We can't alter our habits or our systems to get different results.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: So that year we realized like, oh, she just needs to have stuff on her.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: We tried to put stuff in your pockets and it just didn't work.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: So we have this cute little fanny pack that we actually tried a backpack at first and it was a little too bulky and big.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Remember, when you have the little backpack, you had a couple versions of the backpack I also thought you just see you yeah, that you had a purse as well.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: Girl, girl you were, you were feeling yourself on this podcast I said I would.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: I'm the talkative one, you're the one mostly talking I know I think you're falling asleep slowly, so I thought I'd I'm I'm yawning like every five seconds I'm sorry, I'm boring you.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: So anyways, we tried the book bag at first for having um snacks on the playground, but it got left a lot of places because it was too bulky.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: So how have you found your fanny pack has worked better?
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: That was trying to be more slim.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: You've left it a lot less places.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Do you use it often?
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: I use it to store other things besides diabetes yeah, it's kind of useful like even more than medical which is actually helpful because it means you don't forget it places, because it's almost like become your purse.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: In addition, to snacks, but then it's been helpful because we have to have it live.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you know about this, but I've, and if I see anywhere other than the hook by the front door, I put it back because I want it to be a visual cue like sometimes with habits.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: You need visual cues.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: And it's bright pink because that helps me not remember or helps me not forget, I put it back up there.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: So every time we leave the door, even if we're walking to the park because we've had some lows where, hey, we're not, we're just gonna go on a walk as a family I remember this one time we went to the park and you and I got low and you tried to make me drink like this, not non-sugar free syrup.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: It tastes so sweet, oh sweet girl.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we, um, we've gotten stuck out enough.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I think that that's probably one of the hard parts people don't realize is, of course, like when you're going on a trip or to the store, we have to bring snacks for you, but we can't even not think or be strategic or plan ahead for just walks.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: We've had a lot of bike rides.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: It'd just be like a quick bike ride around the block and then you've gotten low.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: We've had to get daddy to come pick us up.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: So one of the habits is to always bring the fanny pack with us, even if we're just going to the end of the street, right?
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that one time you got low and we didn't have the fanny pack and Rosie ran home?
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, she ran like a mile.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: That's what I was just thinking.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Thinking about was that.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Wasn't the house around the corner.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the corner, while we were like trying to get I was carrying a mile.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Well, no, she ran pretty far, for because she was a couple of a couple years ago, I had to carry you on my back.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, I feel a little teary because I was.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't have my cell phone.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I was trying to be more present, but with diabetes it's kind of we don't have the luxury to not do that, because if I had had my phone I could have called dad pretty easy.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: So and then we had I think you either used or we didn't have enough snacks to help you come up.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: So it was beautiful, rosie, at one point when I was carrying a dog.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: No, not at that point.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: No, there was one, there was one, but you get low a few times on walks, it's true.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: But we were walking like the neighbor's dog when that happened and then she ran home.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: You were on my back and then I realized we needed to get a snack in you quicker.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: So Rosie ran home and ran back and it was really sweet and precious, but that probably was the final straw of okay, we can't, we have to dial in this habit.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: We cannot even just take a casual walk or let's go explore without having emergency snacks all the time.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: You can't look under the bed Without emergency snacks.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: It's true, you have snack, you have for low blood sugars by your bedside stand.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: We've done a lot of different habits to help us not have these big urgent things.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: We realize if we, if we're well prepared, then we don't get into crisis.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Right, it really helps.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I was going to say one more thing, though, about that.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, one of the things that with you know like habits realizing when there have been these lows where I didn't bring a snack, or I thought I had one and it was out or whatever that looked like, I go into shame a lot where I'm like oh, my gosh, I'm not, like I'm not a good mom or I really missed it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I like how come I'm not taking this seriously?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: And then, with habits and then bringing the Lord into it, I'm like, actually, okay, what happened was Wesley asked to go to the front yard and then eventually someone talked to the neighbor with the dog and then you started on the walk Like it was never this choice, where I was like forget diabetes or we'll be fine, let's risk it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: So when I backtrack and be a scientist and be curious about how we got there, I realized like I'm not a bad mom, I just need a different habit.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: So that's why a lot of these I've had to do that self-talk when I've experienced some of these gone wrong moments with diabetes and realized like okay, I just really need to dial in my habit.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: How about you?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: You don't do shame as much when a diabetes thing goes wrong.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: What happens more for you?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I think like maybe remember when I was like.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, when I'm really like, I get really low and you start freaking out.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I try to calm you down.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, and we've had to talk about that, like I've had to feel, like I love your heart for me.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I'm the mother, you're the daughter.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: You don't mother me.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: No, well, I say it usually.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I mean you're not wrong, but I say you don't have to take care of me you don't say like chop, chop, chop, but you say more gentle.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: But it's just a funny version, mom, you are funnier than funny for the viewers.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: For the viewers for the listeners yes, yes, yes, they don't feel they listen, it's true.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: So the point though she's saying it's true, that's one of the habits is that when I'm trying to get in, I don't feel panicky, but I think you see the change in my energy because I'm pretty's.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: One of the habits is that when I'm trying to get in, I don't feel panicky, but I think you see the change in my energy because I'm pretty calm most of the time.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: So when we're having a diabetic emergency and I'm trying to figure things out, what's next, you'll start trying to soothe me or be like I'm okay, mom, I'm whatever, and I have to be like I love you, you be the daughter, you don't have to take care of me, I'm okay, your job is just to let me care for you, and you do a good job and you still try.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like girl, I love you, let me be the mom.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Right now I got this.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I treat you like a dog, it's true.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say one more example of some like diabetes habits.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So I know that not everyone listening most of you probably do not have diabetes, but the what I would like you to think about is where in your life, like, what's special or unique about your life, whether it's your kids have something different, like gluten allergies or a behavior thing, or even just something for yourself.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's an example, that's a behavior.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate Behavior.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You are so silly.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: My point would be to not let yourself, when you get different results or something is harder that you have to figure out, don't take it on as an identity statement that it's because you're failing or not responsible enough or a bad mom or any of those character attacks that you could make your habits about remembering that it's actually like.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Actually, I just probably need to have a solution to get different results.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I need to try something differently, because a lot of times we can waste time in feeling like be better, dig deeper, make this more of a priority, and we don't actually change any logistics and so many of these simple tweaks for diabetes, like um was the fanny pack and then the snacks around the class.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: And then I remember in third grade, audrey, um, diabetics get thirsty more often and one of her teachers was stricter because the kids are taking advantage of taking drinking water and she was saying no to everybody.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: And then Audrey wasn't getting water that she needed for a medical purpose.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But you felt embarrassed, was that right?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, kind of you felt embarrassed and you didn't want to have to tell her it was because of diabetes and draw attention to it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So in a teacher conference and you were, it was causing pain for a couple weeks.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So when we went, got to the teacher conference, I was like hey, I asked teachers conference was in that big room remember I thought that was just like from diabetes.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Oh well, it was with your teachers about diabetes.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was a diabetic meeting and I asked if we could find a solution and the habit that we walked away with was audrey got a special little hand signal right with that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Was that the year she's trying to correct my hand?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I can't do the hand signal, but it was cool to be like.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I think you felt hopeless.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's what you do.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: You get fearful or hopeless when something about diabetes is hard or challenging.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Is that accurate?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and then I get shamey where I'm like I'm the worst.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not a good mom and you sing it like that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe I do, but my point was going to be that I have to remind myself I can change my habits and it's not about me failing as a mom and you have to remind yourself that it's not hopeless, that we could figure out a solution together.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So the hand signal was a solution and then this year actually we had she has amazing teachers.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: We go to a public school in California and the teachers have just been phenomenal and it's been really beautiful to see.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a stereotype and a lot of fear around public school systems and we have just had phenomenal teachers at this public school who really, really care and love the kids and love their jobs and a lot of them actually love Jesus.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think most of the teachers you've had have actually loved Jesus right.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, even some of the Chinese teachers.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: So what I was gonna say is this year the teacher we just had your parent teacher conference, not just a diabetes meeting, right, you're gonna.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: If anyone has a preteen, you know that the editing your mom's facts is a very real.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Do you edit me often, or dad?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: yes, but yes, I do.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Is that your job?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Like fact checking?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: What would we do without you?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: You're funny.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So my point is the most recent habit diabetes experience we had was that Audrey at in fifth grade is feeling more self-conscious about talking about diabetes.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, do you remember?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: nodded again.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: In years past, when you were younger, what'd you do to educate your class?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I gave a speech in front of them in second grade, like Ms Shock'sak's, like okay, we're gonna do this thing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And then a special guest is gonna talk and I'm like, oh, who is it?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And she said it's audrey.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm like what?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: she gave her no notice, you guys.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: She filmed it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: She did a phenomenal job.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: She was being a little silly earlier, but she can spit all of the facts about what happens with insulin.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I can spit the patooey, thank you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: She's in a mood right now y'all I'm always in a mood my talent is obstinate tonight, okay.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So what I was going to say, though, is in years past, well, you gave a speech and you helped educate your class.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Now you're feeling a little more self-conscious and you have not gotten snacks.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You have not raised your hand to go to the front office or to get the snacks, when you've had low blood sugar a couple of times this year, because you have felt self-conscious about drawing your attention to yourself, and that's been hard for me as a mom, because I just want to tell you don't stop being self-conscious, take care of yourself.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And I have told you, but then realizing, oh, we probably actually need to make a habit that helps you overcome some of this self-consciousness, that you don't have to just all of a sudden be brave because you're in fifth grade and you care what people think, and you're probably gonna still care tomorrow.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You're still gonna care tomorrow.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: What?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: your friends think probably like in a 10 million years to 10 million years, goodness gracious.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Um, so, anyways, in the parent teacher conference I brought this up and I was like, hey, do you think I actually use the word solution, because I think again, habits are solutions for pain points.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And I asked the teacher.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, do you think I explained how she felt subconscious and that's resulted in her not getting snacks when she needs it, with low blood sugar, which is scary for me as a mom.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And I also, when I was saying this, I told her no one's doing anything wrong, cause I didn't want her to think I was accusing the teachers of not being helpful.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And, um, it was really chill.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And I was like I wonder if she's she's a very emotionally mature adult, it's true.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So um anyways, like Jesus, I wouldn't say, oh, you did actually compare your teacher.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's high praise.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It was funny.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: One day I came in after, do you remember?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: When I came into your room, I was about to lay with you and I just got an email from your teacher and I said, miss Nichols, and then you just filled in the blank.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You were like is the best?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And I was like yes, and you're like, I know, we're a big fan if you can't tell Miss Nichols.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So anyways, we sat down at the parent.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Oh come, miss.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Nichols, you can beat the other football team wow.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: So we sat down at the conference and I told her.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, do you have any solutions that you could help us think through?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Because part of what was rooted as I got curious with Audrey, so remembering being curious versus, I think, our kids as parents's, as parents, we go into teach mode or give them the right answers a lot instead of asking what's under it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: So when I was got curious, she was saying that a lot of the kids, audrey, outside of this conference, misunderstand diabetes and they think it type one's like type two.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So they have jokes about people who are irresponsible with their eating habits or eat a ton of junk food.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: That's how you get diabetes.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: So she's actually felt embarrassed because of their misinformation Is that right, audrey?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: About diabetes.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So part of her not wanting to say something is not wanting them to get then judged like oh, audrey was a junk food eater and that's how she got diabetes, which is so not true with type one.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I mean I would want to eat a bunch of junk food, but the results are bad.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You make really good decisions because she can see on her pump she can actually.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: There's a graph of her blood sugar.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm getting back to the story.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: When I was talking to Ms Nichols, I explained that we had uncovered, when we stayed curious, some of the reason you weren't getting snacks when you needed.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: It was because the kids didn't understand diabetes.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And Ms Nichols instantly started thinking and then she was like what if we actually I use this as a lesson to read some books and do some education about a few disorders or things that people struggle with that are common?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So I think she said like gluten allergy and maybe like autism and a few other, and then add diabetes in there.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: What about the burger?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember then add diabetes in there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: What about the?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: burger?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't remember, yeah, but so she said quite a few things and so she's actually going to do this and it was beautiful Within 48 hours.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: This is the slides we were talking about earlier.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: That she made yeah Within 48 hours.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Her teacher.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: We had sat down with a problem we had.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: We asked for some solutions and she immediately she and us brainstormed some options, solutions.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And she immediately she and us brainstormed um some options.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna have code words this year with some of the teachers.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Instead of alpha dog, alpha dog dog.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Alpha baby dog.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Is this all about diabetes?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: alpha slay dog wow, okay, alpha dog's her code word for when she needs a diabetic snack, apparently hey, teacher, alpha dog the kids would be like.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like that would be less obvious or more obvious?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Audrey's lost her mind.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: We're kind of worried about her, oh no so, anyways, the beautiful part is we not only got a habit to solve the problem, which, if I felt overwhelmed I could have come in, but guidance blazing.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Or if I hadn't stayed curious with Audrey, I could have just stuck in be bra blazing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Or if I hadn't stayed curious with Audrey, I could have just stuck in, be braver.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Don't be self-conscious All the things that a fifth grader is developing into.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So it's unreasonable for me to expect her to just self-conscious biceps.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Shine your self confidence, shine no yourself.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Self confidence biceps.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Bicep your self-confidence biceps shine, bicep, oh, bicep your muscle, oh, that's funny.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, the arm muscle, she wants you to see.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: The joke was I want to see your self-confidence, bicep, shine.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: If I had just stayed there.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, as parents, I think we get trapped in the tell them what to do and learn the life lesson versus okay, while you're learning the lesson, what habit or solution can I do to help, make it easier, so you don't have to just climb this mountain of a hurdle to get different results?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So she's putting.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It's cool, though.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: She sent us an email.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: She already is working on her presentation.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: She's just going above and beyond so that Audrey can help, or that the teacher can change the misinformation about diabetes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: So Audrey feels less self-conscious, so she'll actually be better.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: We're working on self advocating for herself when she has a need.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Um, audrey, but in the meantime, here are some habits to help get different results.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And she even bought a new diabetes book that she's going to share and asked Audrey.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And then we bought it too.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we bought it cause we thought it was a good one.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: We actually want to write a diabetes book one day.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Right, Give us a good review in like 10 years.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You're preemptively asking them for the Amazon reviews.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Can you tell my daughter is the child of an entrepreneur?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think you can have I told you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is a fun fact about Audrey being an entrepreneur and already having the habits, she realized that she could be a mother.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: She was too young to fully babysit, but she could be a mother's helper.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So she in my phone one day in church when we were waiting I was talking to someone else.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I started getting all these.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: She had my phone for a bit and I get all these texts on the way home and I look and she had gotten on Canva, which is a design app, made her own flyer to be a mother's helper and then sent it to a bunch of my friends like mutual friends, because we have a lot, we do a lot of family preach girls.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And she'd sent her flyer out advertising herself as a mother's helper and she was getting responses already.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So she has she's done quite a few jobs and she was getting responses already.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So she has she's done quite a few jobs and she's now done that quite a few times it's true now, when we have play dates casually went over to your friend's house and I stole your phone and sent a bunch of random yes no, totally so.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Now, whenever we meet friends who have little babies, she's like they're my future clients.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like or they babies, they're just our friends.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: She's already thinking like that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, so the point of this episode is, when you get stuck in things to not especially with your kids, regardless of what your kids are facing, to not just get stuck into it being a character flaw, reflection on yourself or your kids, getting fear, fearful or hopeless that there's a solution, that you can both collaborate to do something slightly different and get slightly different results right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Is there anything?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I forgot, I can't nod.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep nodding.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Can you tell them one thing that you think would be helpful for them to work with their kids around things like this, with habits?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: What's one thing you've learned?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: their kids around things like this with habits.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: What's one thing you've learned, or I've learned how to write my name in school, but um, for this she's got jokes for days.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody, anything else actually years, but um I forgot the question.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: it okay, I was just asking about habits.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What do we do?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What's kind of some habits we have now outside of diabetes.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Make your bed, do the dishes mostly chores.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to say one more diabetes thing.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: We set an alarm, we kept forgetting, I kept forgetting to check your levels before you went to school and I'd have to keep going to school to like help fill your insulin or change some of the pump stuff that needed to be done at home.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I'm a cyborg.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: We call her she's half cyborg because, like we said, when you have diabetes your pancreas stops working.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So her insulin pump actually is like a machine doing the job of that organ.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So she's half cyborg, as we tease sometimes.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So, anyways, the cyborg organ in her needs maintenance constantly and in the hustle of getting out the door for school every day, we'd forget it sometimes and it felt like those were the days that she'd need some maintenance that we missed.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: So we finally just put an alarm.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: What a coincidence, I think.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I know the interesting part, though again going back to the character flaw, I remember driving to school was the final straw um, to give you some insulin to do the maintenance at school instead of at home.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And I was just Laying the shame on thick.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I was like man.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I actually remember crying.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think I told you this.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I remember crying because I was like Jesus.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I don't have what it takes, I'm not organized enough to be the kind of mom that she needs.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: This is life or death, but I'm not responsible enough.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You gave her the wrong mom.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, I feel emotional.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I just felt, really, I was just so much shame and I felt like the Lord was like hey, you missed it, yeah, but why don't you get more curious about what was happening?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And when I broke it down was like okay, that morning we over like a couple.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I think we overslept or maybe the kids.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Alarm didn't go off and I didn't notice, so then I didn't catch it until they had overslept by 15 minutes.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So then we were rushed and then Wesley was in a really bad mood.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: That never happens does it no, never.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: so that took a lot of my energy.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And then I think something else happened sideways that was different.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: So then I thought back.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no wonder you forgot that you were managing like, you were juggling like five things that were so different than normal.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: What if your brain actually is thinks this is a priority, but it can't handle more priorities?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So what if you use some kind of tool outside your brain and you got different results?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So we started sending this alarm every morning at a certain time during breakfast, asking us to check her levels.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And we have not had a misstep and I have not changed.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: It is just I have found a habit and a tool that gives us different results.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So sometimes, when we're so convinced it's a character flaw or something we'll never get over because we're not that kind of person, it could actually be as easy as a habit tweak for different results.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So I hope it feels hopeful wherever you're parenting, audrey, I will let you go to bed.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on my podcast, yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to say if there is anything this podcast has taught me, it has taught me you have a lot of secrets that I don't know about with my emotions.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Well, because it's like I said, I'm the mom.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It's not your job to care for my emotions.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I get to manage my own, you know.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I get to be the one to help you with yours.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And if you've been listening, you've noticed that I'm about to launch a habit reboot.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It's a mini course, it is not an overhaul.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It's not an overhaul of all your habits and learning deep habit principles like the master courses.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It is a three module course that's just going to revive your routines.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's going to have you look at what worked in past seasons, look at what your weeks and days need to look like to help you hit the goal for whatever your priority is for this season, in three modules.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: So a little tweak, small adjustments for big impact with different results.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Uh, that is coming soon, actually in the next week, so buy yours today, right, audrey also.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: She made me sit down and film this thing with like expired lettuce for it to advertise.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I know what my face is looks.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I have to explain where you didn't give enough context.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: We did an instagram reel of us eating and I can't believe we brought this and it's real, though um and I had used lettuce, but we realized it was like wilty and gross and not awesome.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: So she's like I'm not eating that.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I was like I don't have anything else and I really don't care that much.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be perfect it's just kind of a prop we don't need to eat it, so that she was eating the carrot and I realized I couldn't.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I had to take a bite or it didn't look real anymore.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And I what I do afterwards you spit it out.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: It was expired lettuce, you spit it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I know it was expired lettuce, you spit it out.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I know you guys.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Behind the Instagram reel, the truth comes out.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Audrey, thank you for being my guest today.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: All I did to change what I look like was take off my ponytail and put on a sweater.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, You're giving away all of our secrets about filming.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It's just ponytail list and expired lettuce that makes the magic happen over here.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: You know, go down to the store and get yourself some expired lettuce.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And you too could have great habits.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, goodbye.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody Say goodbye Audrey.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye, bye.