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- 0:00Speaker 1: Imagine for a second, just stealing a seventy five dollars
- 0:03table vice from a local hardware store.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Right, like a totally petty crime.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Exactly a minor shoplifting charge. You'd think it's just a
- 0:11slap on the risk, yeah, at most. But now I
- 0:14want you to imagine that single clumsy, seventy five dollars
- 0:17theft triggering a twenty million dollar international manhunt. Oh, exposing
- 0:24a literal dungeon hidden in the remote California.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Mountains, which is just terrifying, it.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Really is, and it all culminates in the longest, most
- 0:33expensive murder trial in the history of California. Welcome to
- 0:37the deep dive.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Glad to be here.
- 0:38Speaker 1: So today's mission for you listening is to unpack an
- 0:41incredibly dark, just sprawling investigation that kicked off in the
- 0:45summer of nineteen eighty four.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're pulling our facts today from a really
- 0:50detailed true crime transcript documenting what they call the boneyard
- 0:53in the California Mountains.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Right, the infamous Leonard Lake and Charles in case. Yeah,
- 0:57and look, if you're listening to this right now, you
- 0:59really need to pair yourself because the contrast at the
- 1:02heart of the story is, well, it's going to give.
- 1:03Speaker 2: You whiplash, It absolutely is.
- 1:05Speaker 1: We're looking at a masterclass in forensic persistence. But also,
- 1:09you know, the madden complexities of international laws.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Oh, the legal loopholes are just infuriating.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Totally, and ultimately it's about the fatal flaw of criminal hubris.
- 1:19Speaker 2: That contrast, though, is exactly what makes this case such
- 1:23a landmark study in criminal psychology. Yeah, I mean, it
- 1:26isn't merely recounting some shocking crimes. It's an exploration of
- 1:30how a massive, horrifying structure of violence can just be
- 1:35entirely dismantled by one smallest thing, literally, the absolute smallest,
- 1:40most mundane error. It's a study of two men who
- 1:43spent years meticulously planning the unthinkable, only to have their
- 1:48entire empire undone by well, a complete lack of impulse
- 1:52control in a lumber yard.
- 1:53Speaker 1: So we have to start right there at that lumberyard,
- 1:55just to understand how this whole thing unraveled. So it's
- 1:57June second, nineteen eighty five, South San Francisco. That's a Sunday, Yeah,
- 2:01a Sunday, and a dispatch operator gets a call about
- 2:05a theft in progress at South City Lumber pretty standards
- 2:09call super standard. The call goes out to Officer Right, who, uh,
- 2:13he only has about a year on the street at
- 2:15this point.
- 2:15Speaker 2: The rookie basically yeah, and.
- 2:17Speaker 1: A witness tells the officer that an Asian male was
- 2:20spotted walking out with a seventy five dollars table vice.
- 2:24When the witness confronted him, the thief panicked, tossed the
- 2:28vice into the trunk of a brown Honda and just
- 2:31took off on foot.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Which is remarkably sloppy. So sloppy.
- 2:35Speaker 1: But Officer Wright does what any good patrolman would do, right.
- 2:38He secures the vehicle and looks inside the brown.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Honda, and that's where things get.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Weird, very weird. He spots this suspicious looking case. Opening it,
- 2:47he finds a point two two caliber Ruger handgun.
- 2:50Speaker 2: But the critical detail is what's attached to it, right,
- 2:54Because there's a cylinder shaped object about I don't know,
- 2:56six to nine inches long attached to the barrel.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Homemade silence, exactly, a homemade silence that immediately changes the
- 3:03temperature of the entire scene.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Oh completely.
- 3:05Speaker 1: You don't just find illegally modified weapons with silencers abandoned
- 3:09after a routine shoplifting call.
- 3:11Speaker 2: No, you definitely do not.
- 3:12Speaker 1: But before Officer Wright can even process this, this incredibly
- 3:17agitated man just bursts out from the lumber store.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Right. He rushes the officer Yeah.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Tells him to calm down, and claims that he is
- 3:25the one who actually paid for the vice. He says
- 3:28his friend had just taken it by mistake.
- 3:30Speaker 2: And by this time Wright's supervisor, Sergeant Paul Ziemer, has
- 3:34actually arrived on the scene. Good timing, very and because
- 3:37of that modified silenced weapon just sitting in plain view
- 3:40inside the Honda, they aren't going to just you know,
- 3:42write a ticket and let this guy.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Walk away, right, That's not happening.
- 3:46Speaker 2: They tell him he needs to come down to the
- 3:47station to give a statement about the firearm. So they
- 3:50handcuff him, yep, put him in the cruiser, and they
- 3:52impound the Honda.
- 3:53Speaker 1: So on the ride to the station, the guy in
- 3:55the backseat casually just gives up.
- 3:57Speaker 2: His friend just throws him right under the bus. Yeah.
- 4:00Speaker 1: He tells Sergeant Zehemer that the shoplifter who ran away
- 4:03is named Charles ng Right, so dispatch runs the name
- 4:06and the system.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Just lights up. Oh, it goes crazy.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Charles Ng is a former marine born in Hong Kong
- 4:12who had actually been convicted in a military court for
- 4:16stealing automatic weapons from a base in Hawaii.
- 4:19Speaker 2: And not just that, right, he had previously escaped from
- 4:22a military prison at Levenworth.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Which is insane. I mean, this isn't a random buddy,
- 4:27this is a highly trained fugitive.
- 4:29Speaker 2: That revelation shifts the police into high gear immediately, I bet.
- 4:33Back at the South San Francisco Police station, they put
- 4:36their detainee into his secure holding room and the man
- 4:39then tells the officers that his real name is Leonard Lake. Okay,
- 4:44he openly admits he's also a fugitive from justice, and
- 4:47he offers to make a full written statement.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Okay, so wait, he's just volunteering this.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Yeah, But before he writes anything, he makes this very specific,
- 4:56seemingly totally mundane request.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:59Speaker 2: He asks for a piece of paper, a pencil, and
- 5:02a glass of water.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Which, I mean, that sounds completely cooperative. If suspect says, hey,
- 5:07I'm going to confess, just let me write it down,
- 5:09you give him the paper. So Surgeon Zimmer leaves the
- 5:12room to grab Gary Hopper, the on call detective for
- 5:15that Sunday. But when they returned to the holding room,
- 5:18and this is just a few minutes later, Leonard Lake
- 5:21isn't writing, No, he is not. He is on the
- 5:24floor convulsing violently.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Detective Hopper actually described it as the guy flopping around
- 5:30like a fish out of water, completely uncontrollable.
- 5:33Speaker 1: So the officers call the paramedics right away, assuming you know,
- 5:36they're dealing with an epileptic seizure or some severe medical.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Event, right, But it was far from a natural biological response.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Because by the time the paramedics get him to the
- 5:44emergency room, there is zero brain activity. Leonard Lake is
- 5:49brain dead.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And it wasn't until the autopsy that they discovered the
- 5:52actual cause of death. Leonard Lake had ingested a capsule
- 5:56containing cyanide. Cyanide, yeah, and the Toxic College your report
- 6:00noted something really terrifying. The gelatine capsule he swallowed took
- 6:04an estimated twenty to twenty five minutes to dissolve before
- 6:07the cyanide hit his bloodstream. So that timeline perfectly matches
- 6:11the window from when he was standing by the Honda
- 6:14at the lumber yard to when he was left alone
- 6:16in the.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Holding cell, so he took it at the scene exactly.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look at the physical mechanism of that choice
- 6:23for a second, because it's crucial to understanding Lake's psychology.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Okay, lay it on me.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Cyanide doesn't just like put you to sleep, right, It
- 6:31actively binds to the cytochrome's sacoxidase in your cells. Meaning
- 6:36what meaning? It effectively prevents yourselves from using oxygen. Oh god,
- 6:40your body is starved of oxygen at a cellular level,
- 6:43which leads to violent seizures, cardiac arrest, and brain death.
- 6:47It is a brutal, agonizing way to die.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Wait, that is fascinating but deeply disturbing. Yeah, because you know,
- 6:53we picture serial killers as these meticulous, evil geniuses, always
- 6:57in control.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Right, the Hollywood myth.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Yeah, So why would a guy submit himself to an
- 7:02agonizing death over covering up a seventy five dollars shoplifting charge.
- 7:07Speaker 2: It's a profound paradox, Like, how.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Do criminals compartmentalize their petty crimes from their monstrous ones
- 7:14to such a degree that a stolen tool leads to
- 7:17a cyanide bill?
- 7:18Speaker 2: Well, we often assume criminal masterminds are highly disciplined across
- 7:23all aspects of their existence. Right, But the reality is
- 7:26that compulsion often entirely overrides discipline. The psychological urge to
- 7:32steal a minor item, that thrill of the petty theft
- 7:36is driven by a fundamentally different part of the brain
- 7:39than the calculated, cold blooded planning required for a mass murder.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Huh.
- 7:43Speaker 2: They lack basic impulse control. But here's the thing. Lake
- 7:47didn't kill himself over the shoplifting. He didn't. No, he
- 7:50killed himself because the shoplifting shone a spotlight on the brown.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Honda h The Hannah was the first domino exactly.
- 7:57Speaker 2: He knew what was in that car, and he knew
- 7:59that the car would have eventually lead to Wow. Taking
- 8:01the cyanine pill was an active extreme paranoia, but also
- 8:04a manifestation of this pathological need for absolute control. Right.
- 8:08Speaker 1: It was on his terms.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Yes, he decided that an agonizing death on his own
- 8:13terms was preferable to the state taking away his freedom
- 8:17and exposing his secrets, which is.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Why, instead of writing a police statement, he used that
- 8:22paper and pencil to write a bizarre suicide note to
- 8:26his ex wife Lynn. It read, uh, let me find
- 8:29it dear Lynn, I love you, I forgive you. Freedom
- 8:32is better than all else. I'm sorry, Mom, Taddy and all.
- 8:35I'm sorry for all the trouble. Love Leonard. Yeah, he
- 8:37knew the police were about to pull a thread that
- 8:39would unravel everything.
- 8:40Speaker 2: And the meticulous forensic work on that brown Honda reveals
- 8:45exactly why Lake preferred death.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So Detective Irene Brun of the San Francisco Police Department
- 8:50takes lead on the vehicle, and she is thorough, extremely
- 8:54ra The very first thing she does is run the
- 8:56serial number on the Honda's engine block. Aw, the car
- 8:59didn't belong to Leonard Lie, of course not. It belonged
- 9:01to a man named Paul Kosner who had actually been
- 9:03missing for seven months.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Wow.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Cosner vanished after leaving his house to show a car
- 9:08he was selling through a newspaper advertisement.
- 9:11Speaker 1: So detective Brenn and her partner start tearing the Honda
- 9:15apart literally. They find a driver's license belonging to a
- 9:19man named Scott.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Stapley, another missing person.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Right, They find a stun gun and unspent bullets rolling
- 9:25around on the floorboards. But then, and this is where
- 9:28it gets crazy. They look at the roof of the interior. Right,
- 9:32they find a single bullet hole.
- 9:34Speaker 2: And the trajectory of that bullet hole is vital. Tell
- 9:38me why, Well, it indicates the weapon was fired from
- 9:41the back seat, angled slightly upward, Okay, and that physical
- 9:44evidence prompts the detectives to bring in luminol.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Right, and for you listening, if you're unaware, luminol is
- 9:50a chemical that reacts with the iron present in hema glubin. Exactly,
- 9:54it makes even microscopic like heavily cleaned up traces of
- 9:57blood fluoress with this bright blue guns low in total darkness.
- 10:01Speaker 2: It essentially reveals the ghost of a violent act long
- 10:05after the blood is seemingly gone beautifully put.
- 10:07Speaker 1: So, when they spray the interior of the Honda and
- 10:10turn off the lights, the passenger side of the car
- 10:13lights up like a Christmas tree it was covered. They
- 10:15discover high velocity blood spatter right next to the front passenger.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Seat, and high velocity spatter is almost exclusively associated with
- 10:23a close range gunshot wound.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Right because of the impact.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that misting effect happens when a bullet strikes tissue
- 10:29at high speed.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So they know instantly that Paul Kosner was likely executed
- 10:33in his own passenger seat. Yes, But alongside the blood,
- 10:37the stun gun, and the weapons, they find a single,
- 10:41seemingly innocuous piece of paper tucked deep under the passenger.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Seat, A very important piece of paper.
- 10:47Speaker 1: An electric bill, and it is addressed to a woman
- 10:50named CLAARLN. Belaws.
- 10:52Speaker 2: And that electric bill provides the geographic anchor for the
- 10:55entire case. Yeah, because the Honda was a rolling tomb, right,
- 10:59But that piece of paper gives the San Francisco Detectives
- 11:03a physical location outside their jurisdiction.
- 11:05Speaker 1: It points them toward the mountains.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Right, So they track down clar Lyne Blaz.
- 11:09Speaker 1: And it turns out she is Leonard Lake's ex wife.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Yep, they'd been married for three years and divorced a
- 11:16year prior. She explains that the address on the electric
- 11:19bill corresponds to an isolated cabin her family owned in
- 11:22Calaveras County, which is up in northern California.
- 11:25Speaker 1: So Detective Brunn and her partner know they need to
- 11:28get eyes on this property immediately one hundred percent, but
- 11:32BelAZ starts stalling. Of course, she insists it isn't a
- 11:36good time to go up there, claiming she is too busy,
- 11:38and she actually suggests they wait until the next day, right,
- 11:41and the detectives agree to meet her the following morning,
- 11:45but they explicitly instruct her not to visit the property
- 11:48in the meantime.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Yeah, they tell her to stay away.
- 11:51Speaker 1: They even call the Calavera Sheriff's department to ask them
- 11:54to keep an eye on the place.
- 11:55Speaker 2: But wait, hold on, Yeah, the police are investigating a
- 11:59man who just swallowed a cyanide pill right right, right,
- 12:03They have a car soaked in a high velocity blood
- 12:06spatter connected to a missing person. Yep, and they just say, sure,
- 12:11we'll wait until tomorrow. Please don't go clean up. I know,
- 12:14I know that sounds like catastrophic police incompetence. Why on
- 12:18earth would they allow her that window of opportunity? Why
- 12:21not just kick the door down? Right? Then?
- 12:23Speaker 1: It is incredibly frustrating to hear in hindsight, for sure,
- 12:28But it comes down to the strict mechanics of the Fourth.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Amendment, the search and seizure rules.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Right, the police cannot simply search a property without probable
- 12:37cause or a search warrant.
- 12:39Speaker 2: But didn't they have probable cause with the car?
- 12:42Speaker 1: The electric bill proved Lake had an association with the address. Yeah,
- 12:46but it did not legally prove a crime was occurring
- 12:49inside the cabin at that exact moment. Ah exigent circumstances
- 12:53like you know, hearing someone screaming inside would allow a
- 12:56warrantless entry, but.
- 12:57Speaker 2: They didn't have that right it was quiet.
- 12:59Speaker 1: They needed Blaz's voluntary consent to search the property, or
- 13:03they needed a judge to sign a warrant.
- 13:05Speaker 2: And getting a warrant takes time.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Exactly if they antagonized her, she could refuse consent entirely,
- 13:10forcing them to build a complex affidavid for a judge.
- 13:14Speaker 2: So what about the Calaveras Sheriff's Department. Why could they
- 13:16just sit a squad car in the driveway overnight.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Well, that comes down to geography and resources. Caliver's County
- 13:23covers over a thousand square miles of incredibly rugged, wild
- 13:27mountainous terrain, right, and in nineteen eighty five they had
- 13:30a total police force of thirty four officers to protect
- 13:33that entire county.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Wow, only thirty four.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Yeah, they simply did not have the manpower to post
- 13:40a twenty four hour guard at an isolated cabin on
- 13:44the suspicion of San Francisco.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Detectives, so they could only agree to make passing patrols.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Exactly and predictably. When the detectives meet Belaws outside the
- 13:52local post office the next morning, she admits that she
- 13:55and Lake's mother had driven up to the cabin the
- 13:57night before. Anyway, unbelievable excuses absurd too. She claims Leonard
- 14:02was very untidy and they just wanted to tidy up
- 14:04the cabin before the police.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Saw it, which sends a chill down the spine of
- 14:08every investigator involved. Oh, absolutely, because they're now operating under
- 14:12the heavy suspicion that vital evidence has been compromised, moved,
- 14:17or just completely destroyed.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Yep. So they follow Belaws to the property and.
- 14:22Speaker 2: As they pull in, they notice this cinder block bunker
- 14:25structure bordering the driveway near the main cabin.
- 14:29Speaker 1: But Blase claims she doesn't have the key to the
- 14:31bunker convenient very and she explicitly denies them permission to
- 14:36search it.
- 14:36Speaker 2: And because they still don't have a search warrant, they
- 14:39only have her limited consent to search the main unlocked house.
- 14:44They have to tread very carefully, so Detective Brun walks
- 14:48into the main cabin, and the details she notices are
- 14:53deeply unsettling.
- 14:54Speaker 1: What does she see?
- 14:55Speaker 2: Well, she looked at a bed and sees that holes
- 14:57have been meticulously drilled into the bedpost and directly into
- 15:01the floorboards beneath them. Oh god, Yeah, it's an architectural modification,
- 15:05clearly designed to tie a human being down securely.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Mechanical evidence of captivity exactly.
- 15:11Speaker 2: But the real breakthrough comes from a completely different kind
- 15:13of mechanical.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Evidence, the video equipment.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Right. Detective Brun is standing in the low room, turns
- 15:18toward a bookcase and recognizes a specific piece of video equipment.
- 15:22Speaker 1: And she recognizes it because on top of investigating Paul
- 15:26Kosner's disappearance, Brunn was also the lead investigator on the
- 15:30disappearance of an entire family from San Francisco, the Dubbs family. Right.
- 15:35Harvey Dubbs, his wife Deborah, and their sixteen month old
- 15:38son Sean had vanished from their apartment eleven months earlier,
- 15:42just vanish. Yeah, and Harvey Dubbs had placed a newspaper
- 15:45ad offering to rent out his expensive video equipment. That
- 15:48exact equipment was missing from their apartment when the police investigated.
- 15:52Speaker 2: And this is a moment where obsessive, mundane record keeping
- 15:56solves a massive crime. It really is Harvey Dubbs kept
- 15:59the original physical receipts for everything he owned, including the
- 16:03manufacturer serial numbers. Oh yea. So Detective Brun calls her
- 16:07office in San Francisco, has another officer read the serial
- 16:11number from the dove's case file over the radio woman,
- 16:14and it perfectly matches the last three digits of the
- 16:17equipment she is staring at in Leonard Lake's cabin.
- 16:20Speaker 1: That is the turning point right there.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Absolutely the scope of the investigation instantly magnifies.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Because it's no longer just Paul Kosner, right.
- 16:28Speaker 2: It's entire family, including a baby.
- 16:30Speaker 1: And the moment Brunn confirms that serial number allowed, Claralyn
- 16:34BelAZ gets visibly nervous, revokes her consent to search, and
- 16:39kicks the police out of the house.
- 16:41Speaker 2: But her revocation doesn't matter anymore, hope, the confirmed presence
- 16:45of stolen property belonging to a missing family provides rock
- 16:49solid probable cause, so they lock it down exactly. The
- 16:53detectives secure the perimeter and apply for a search warrant.
- 16:56Later that afternoon, they returned with a warrant in hand
- 17:00led by Ron McFall from the Calveris County Sheriff's office.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And their very first target is that cinderblock structure. Blaws
- 17:07refuse to open.
- 17:08Speaker 2: The laws had described it to the police as a
- 17:11fallout shelter.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Which you know, Leonard Lake was a known survivalist right
- 17:16during the Cold War paranoia of the nineteen eighties. Building
- 17:19a bunker against a nuclear holocaust makes a twisted kind
- 17:22of sense for his psychological profile.
- 17:24Speaker 2: It provided a culturally acceptable cover for building a fortress. Right.
- 17:27Speaker 1: But when the police finally get those heavy doors open,
- 17:30they don't find cans of beans, water purification tablets, and
- 17:35radiation suits. They walk into the first room and see
- 17:38twenty one photographs of young women aged eighteen to twenty
- 17:42three tacked up on.
- 17:44Speaker 2: The walls, and many are in various stages of undress,
- 17:47some completely nude.
- 17:48Speaker 1: So the initial assumption by law enforcement is that these
- 17:51are trophies, which is common.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Predatory killers often keep mementos, you know, photos, jewelry, IDs
- 17:57to help them relive the psychological high their crimes.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Right, But the architecture of this bunker held something far
- 18:04more sophisticated and terrifying than a trophy wall.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Oh much worse.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Investigators notice a shelving unit that looks slightly off. When
- 18:11they push on the shelves, a hidden, heavy double door pops.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Open, revealing a secret inner chamber.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Yeah, measuring just three by six feet a literal purpose
- 18:21built bungeon. Inside, they find a homemade wooden caught, a
- 18:25crude shelf holding basic toilet trees, a single roll of
- 18:29toilet paper, and a tiny insufficient ventilation hole drilled through
- 18:33the cinder block. It's horrific, and nail to the wall
- 18:35is a neatly piped list of rules.
- 18:38Speaker 2: The rules.
- 18:38Speaker 1: The rules dictate absolute behavioral control. They read, I must
- 18:43always be ready to service my master and must never
- 18:46speak unless spoken to. I must always be obedient and
- 18:49never look my master in the eye.
- 18:51Speaker 2: It is the physical, constructed manifestation of absolute subjugation. Yeah,
- 18:56the design of the room confirms this wasn't just a fantasy.
- 19:00It was functional. Oh well, there was a two way
- 19:03mirror installed in the wall, allowing someone standing in the
- 19:06outer room to watch the captive inside without being seen.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Oh wow, But.
- 19:11Speaker 2: The most haunting physical detail is found on the hidden
- 19:14door itself. What was it the heavy metal hinges are
- 19:17bent warped outward at both the top and the.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Bottom, meaning someone was pushing on it.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Yes, this bears the obvious desperate signs of immense physical
- 19:25pressure from the inside out. Someone or multiple someone's had
- 19:29fought with every ounce of their strength to push that
- 19:32door open and escape. Got.
- 19:33Speaker 1: The level of planning here is staggering. It really is
- 19:36like building a hidden room, pouring concrete, hyping up literal rules.
- 19:41Does this imply Lake Inning thought they were creating an
- 19:43alternate society where they would just never be caught.
- 19:46Speaker 2: It speaks to a massive, deeply ingrained, shared delusion. The
- 19:51blueprint for this delusion is actually found in a handwritten
- 19:54journal recovered from the bunker.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Lake's journal.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Yes. In it, Lake outlines what he called the Miranda Project.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Okay, what is that?
- 20:04Speaker 2: This was a fantasy he had harbored for over twenty years,
- 20:07heavily inspired by John Fowl's novel The Collector.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Oh I've heard of that book.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about a lonely, obsessive man who kidnaps a
- 20:14beautiful young art student named Miranda and keeps her in
- 20:17a hidden cellar to be his ultimate prize. Grows Lake
- 20:21writes in his journal, how fitting my lovely little prisoner
- 20:24of the future. Wow. He weaponized the concept of a
- 20:26nuclear fallout shelter. He used the survivalist movement as an
- 20:30architectural excuse to build a literal prison for his sexual sadism,
- 20:35believing that after a societal collapse he would be a
- 20:38king with his captured subjects.
- 20:40Speaker 1: The horror inside that cinder block room is suffocating, truly,
- 20:44But outside, as investigators begin to search the two acres
- 20:47of rugged terrain surrounding the cabin, the true scale of
- 20:51the violence becomes apparent.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Yeah. The ground search, the.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Ground is scarred. They identify seven distinct large burned sights
- 20:58scattered across the property.
- 21:00Speaker 2: And the implication of multiple large burn pits on a
- 21:03property linked to missing persons is instantly grim.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Yeah. The police suspect they're looking at disposal sites.
- 21:09Speaker 2: But they need scientific conformation.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Right, so they bring in specialized cadaver dogs. Almost immediately,
- 21:16one of the dogs alerts on a burn site, recovering
- 21:19a piece of bone that deputies visually recognize as distinctly
- 21:23non animal.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Which triggers a massive logistical escalation.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Glaver's County realizes they are way out of their depth.
- 21:29Speaker 2: It transitions from a missing person's case into a full
- 21:32blown multi agency mass homicide excavation.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Yeah, so they bring in the California Conservation Corps. These
- 21:39are workers who are literally placed on their hands and knees,
- 21:41shoulder to shoulder, using their bare fingers and small hand
- 21:45rakes to sift through the dirt across a third of
- 21:48an acre.
- 21:48Speaker 2: And the forensic science of recovering burned remains in open
- 21:52soil is incredibly difficult. Why is that, Well, cadaver dogs
- 21:57are trained to detect volatile organic compounds, you know the
- 22:03specific chemical off gasing that occurs during human decomposition, right,
- 22:07But when a body is burned at extreme temperatures, much
- 22:11of that organic material is destroyed.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
- 22:14Speaker 2: The fact that the dogs were still hitting on these
- 22:15sites indicates that the sheer volume of biological material present.
- 22:19Speaker 1: That's horrifying.
- 22:20Speaker 2: It is the Conservation core workers slowly, painstakingly uncover ten
- 22:25pounds of crushed human bone fragments from the ashes.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Ten pounds. Yeah, it is a staggering amount of destruction.
- 22:32They weren't just disposing of bodies, they were obliterating them exactly.
- 22:36They were crushing the bones after burning them to ash,
- 22:38making identification through traditional means nearly impossible.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Which was exactly their forensic goal. They understood that no
- 22:45body means no crime scene, no cause of death, and
- 22:47no victim identification.
- 22:49Speaker 1: So the authorities now possess the physical space of the Nightmare.
- 22:52They have the horrifying evidence of mass murder in those
- 22:55ten pounds of bone fragments, but they face some monumental.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Problem making the fragments exactly.
- 23:01Speaker 1: They need to connect these anonymous fragments to specific victims,
- 23:05and more urgently, they desperately need to locate the accomplice
- 23:10who sprinted out of that lumber yard Charles Ing, because.
- 23:13Speaker 2: The missing person's list associated with this case is just exploding.
- 23:17Speaker 1: It quickly balloons to twenty five potential victims. Fire and
- 23:21investigators start looking at the immediate vicinity of the cabin.
- 23:24Next door to Leonard Lake lived a family Lonnie Bond,
- 23:27his wife Brenda O'Connor, and their eighteen month old baby,
- 23:31Lonnie Junior.
- 23:32Speaker 2: So the police go over to their neighboring house to
- 23:34ask questions yeah and they find the front door unlocked.
- 23:37Speaker 1: The smell of deeply decayed food is thick in the air,
- 23:41The house looks as though it had been abandoned abruptly
- 23:43months ago, but there is no sign of a physical struggle.
- 23:46The family just vanished into thin air.
- 23:48Speaker 2: And remember Robin Scott Stapley.
- 23:50Speaker 1: The guy whose idea was in the Honda, exactly.
- 23:53Speaker 2: The man whose driver's license Lake was carrying. It turns
- 23:57out he'd been living in that exact same neighboring cabin
- 24:00with Bond and O'Connor, and he was gone too. So
- 24:02the cadaver dogs prove invaluable once again.
- 24:05Speaker 1: What do they find?
- 24:06Speaker 2: Not far from Lake's cabin. The dogs alert on a
- 24:10patch of disturbed earth. Investigators on Earth two fully intact bodies.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Oh wow, not burned.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Right, They are wrapped tightly in sleeping bags and buried
- 24:20relatively shallowly. Okay, now, due to the severe deterioration of
- 24:24the tissue, the local coroner, Terry Parker, cannot even initially
- 24:28determine the biological sex of the victims. That's brutal, but
- 24:31he can clearly see that both bodies have been gagged
- 24:34and handcuffed.
- 24:34Speaker 1: So they transport the bodies to the San Francisco Medical
- 24:37Examiner's office for a full forensic.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Workout and The medical examiner determines they are adult males
- 24:42and that both had been.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Shot to death right and using forensic dentistry comparing the
- 24:46teeth of the victims to known dental records, they positively
- 24:50identify the bodies as the neighbors Lonnie Bond and Robin
- 24:54Scott Stappley.
- 24:55Speaker 2: This confirmation shifts the psychological profile of the killers. How
- 24:59so they were just luring strangers from San Francisco with
- 25:02newspaper ads for video equipment or cars. They were hunting
- 25:05in their own backyard.
- 25:07Speaker 1: They were killing their neighbors.
- 25:09Speaker 2: Yes, But the most devastating piece of evidence, the singular
- 25:14item that elevates this case from a tragic mass murder
- 25:17into a documented visual chronicle of pure evil, is found
- 25:22buried in a simple five gallon plastic paint container next
- 25:26to the cabin's driveway.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Right as darkness falls on the second day of the
- 25:31massive property search, investigators find a videotape inside that bucket.
- 25:35The tape, they take it inside the main tabin, slide
- 25:38it into the VCR, and press play. The tape is
- 25:40hand labeled the m Lady's Tape, and what.
- 25:42Speaker 2: They see on that screen is something that will haunt
- 25:45every hardened investigator who viewed it for the rest of
- 25:47their lives. What's on the tape shows two women suffering unimaginable,
- 25:51prolonged verbal and psychological abuse. They are handcuffed to a chair,
- 25:56their tormentors are off camera, initially demanding a salute sexual
- 26:00submission of the constant explicit threat of extreme violence.
- 26:04Speaker 1: And crucially, the tape finally puts a face to the
- 26:06accomplice because we see Leonard Lake enter the frame, but
- 26:10we also see an Asian male holding a butterfly knife,
- 26:13Charles Ng, using it to aggressively cut the clothes, the
- 26:17blouses and brass straps off the terrified women.
- 26:20Speaker 2: And one of the women on the tape is Brenda O'Connor,
- 26:22the neighbor who live next door the mother Yeah, and
- 26:26she is looking directly into the lens, begging them, pleading
- 26:30with them just to tell her where her baby is
- 26:33and to give her baby back.
- 26:34Speaker 1: We really need to pause and examine the immense evidentiary
- 26:38weight of this tape.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Absolutely, in a.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Case where the physical bodies of the majority of the
- 26:42victims have been burned and crushed into ten pounds of
- 26:45unrecognizable ash, this magnetic tape serves as undeniable chilling.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Proof of life is proof of torture. Yeah, and legally,
- 26:54it proves the specific power dynamic between Leonard Lake and
- 26:57Charles Ng exactly.
- 26:59Speaker 1: It obliterates any future defense strategy claiming Ng was just
- 27:02a passive, frightened bystander.
- 27:04Speaker 2: He is on camera armed with a knife, actively participating
- 27:08in the terror and sexual degradation.
- 27:10Speaker 1: It is like they filmed a director's cut of their
- 27:12own horror movie. They couldn't just commit these unspeakable crimes
- 27:17and bury the evidence to stay safe. Their narcissism, their
- 27:20complete and utter detachment from human empathy, required them to
- 27:25document it.
- 27:26Speaker 2: They needed the tapes.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Right so they could sit in that cabin, drink a beer,
- 27:30and relive the power trip over and over. They were
- 27:33producing their own reality TV show from hell.
- 27:36Speaker 2: That is a highly accurate assessment of their pathology. The
- 27:40documentation became as important as the act itself. Yeah, and
- 27:43the documentation did not stop at the cabin. It didn't know.
- 27:47When San Francisco homicide inspector ed Erlatz leads a tactical
- 27:51search of Charles Ng's apartment in the city, they find
- 27:54a stash of additional videotapes. Oh boy, A Sergeant Larry
- 27:58Copeland from Calvert's County sits down in an evidence room
- 28:01to review them. He puts one tape in the VCR
- 28:03and it simply starts playing the end credits of a
- 28:05standard commercial movie.
- 28:07Speaker 1: So, assuming the tape is just a taped movie, he
- 28:09hits rewind right, but he doesn't hit stop first. He
- 28:12just hits the rewind button, so the tape zipping backward rapidly,
- 28:16playing the footage in reverse on the monitor.
- 28:18Speaker 2: And as it is whirring backward right at the very
- 28:22end of the magnetic tape, a single hidden image flashes on.
- 28:26Speaker 1: The screen, so he stops the machine.
- 28:28Speaker 2: He plays it forward at normal speed.
- 28:30Speaker 1: And that single accidental frame fundamentally changes the forensic timeline
- 28:35of the case.
- 28:35Speaker 2: He really does.
- 28:36Speaker 1: It is a still silent image of two bodies, heavily bound,
- 28:40gagged and wrapped in sleeping bags, lying awkwardly in a wheelbarrow.
- 28:45Speaker 2: It is an image of Lonnie Bond and Scott Stapley.
- 28:48Speaker 1: So they immediately bring in the medical examiner to look
- 28:51at the photograph captured on the tape, and the examiner
- 28:54notes a crucial biological detail. The bodies in the wheelbarrow
- 28:58are in full rigor.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Which is a massive forensic revelation.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Break that down for us.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Let's explain why rigor mortis is the stiffening of the
- 29:06joints and muscles after death. Right. It occurs because the
- 29:09body stops producing atp the molecule required for muscle fibers
- 29:13to relax. Okay, This chemical locking process begins a few
- 29:17hours after death peaks and then only lasts for a
- 29:20specific window of time before the tissue begins to decay
- 29:23and the muscles become flaccid again.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Ah. I see.
- 29:25Speaker 2: So the medical examiner concludes that because the bodies in
- 29:28the wheelbarrower are stiff and locked in full rigor, that
- 29:31photograph had to have been taken immediately after they were murdered,
- 29:36before decomposition set in.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Okay, let me get this straight. The bodies are stiff,
- 29:40meaning they were just killed. Yes, which proves that Lake
- 29:43and Ng were holding the camera framing the shot while
- 29:46the bodies were fresh.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Exactly. It directly ties the filming to the time and
- 29:51location of the murders.
- 29:53Speaker 1: It's just staggering. The evidence is mounting rapidly. But there's
- 29:57another piece of mechanical evidence. Found inside the cabin that
- 29:59show it was just how coldly calculating they were. The typewriter, yes,
- 30:03a manual Olympia typewriter.
- 30:05Speaker 2: The Olympia typewriter is a fascinating and deeply cruel element
- 30:09of their methodology. It shows how they managed the post
- 30:13crime environment. What do you mean, well, When women like
- 30:17Kathleen Allen, one of the victims tortured on the m
- 30:19Lady's Tape, went missing, their employers or families would suddenly
- 30:24receive a typewritten letter in the mail. Kathleen's boss received
- 30:28a neatly typed letter stating she had impulsively taken a
- 30:31new job in Lake Tahoe and wasn't coming back to work.
- 30:34Speaker 1: It is insidious totally. They weren't just kidnapping and killing people,
- 30:38They were actively managing the aftermath. They used that specific
- 30:42Olympia typewriter to draft fake letters from the victims to
- 30:45explain away their sudden absences.
- 30:47Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 30:48Speaker 1: This manipulation bought the months of cover, preventing families from
- 30:52immediately calling the police and launching missing persons investigations. It
- 30:56shows a highly organized predatory intelligence.
- 31:00Speaker 2: So thanks to an eyewitness neighbor in San Francisco who
- 31:03saw Charles NG leaving the Dubs apartment with a duffel bag. Yeah,
- 31:06and the horrifying, undeniable proof of the videotapes, law enforcement
- 31:11knows exactly who the Asian male from the lumberyard is.
- 31:14Speaker 1: They have him.
- 31:14Speaker 2: They immediately secure a massive arrest warrant for Charles NG
- 31:18for multiple counts of first degree murder.
- 31:20Speaker 1: But Charles Ing is a ghost.
- 31:22Speaker 2: He is.
- 31:23Speaker 1: He's an experienced, military trained fugitive. He knows exactly how
- 31:26to run, and he has already vanished from the state
- 31:29and he had help. Remember clare Lynn BelAZ Leonard Lake's
- 31:32ex wife, the one who stalled the police.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Yeah, the District Attorney's office ends.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Up cornering her, and what do they do.
- 31:39Speaker 2: They grant her full immunity from prosecution just to get
- 31:42her to talk and explain the timeline of the escape.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Wow, full immunity.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Yeah, under immunity. She admits that after the shoplifting incident
- 31:49went wrong, Ing walked from the lumberyard to her house. Okay,
- 31:54they drove back to the lumberyard together, saw Lake talking
- 31:57to the police next to the Honda, and immediately.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Bailed because they knew it was over right.
- 32:02Speaker 2: They went back to her house, waited for Lake to call,
- 32:05and when he didn't, she drove Charles Ing to his apartment,
- 32:08where he hastily packed a bag and announced he was
- 32:10heading to Chicago.
- 32:12Speaker 1: So the FBI launches a massive nationwide manhunt. They elevate
- 32:16Ing to the ten most wanted.
- 32:17Speaker 2: List, the big leagues.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Yeah. They track his movements to Chicago, where he is
- 32:21living under the alias Mike Comoto. They interview his old
- 32:25cellmates from military prison. They stake out his sister's apartment
- 32:28in Toronto, Canada, but the trail goes freezing cold.
- 32:32Speaker 2: He just vanishes.
- 32:34Speaker 1: He manages to slip across the international border and disappear
- 32:37into the vastness of Canada.
- 32:39Speaker 2: But here is where the compulsion we discussed earlier rears
- 32:41its ugly head again. The impulse control, the absolute lack
- 32:45of impulse control. It is July sixth, nineteen eighty five,
- 32:50just over a month after he fled the Lumberyard. A
- 32:53young kid playing in a park in Calgary, Canada spots
- 32:56a strange man living in a makeshift fort in the woods. Okay,
- 33:00the kid recognizes his face from a wanted poster he
- 33:02saw at the post office and calls the local police,
- 33:05but Ng manages to slip away before they arrive.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Later that exact same day, Ng walks into a major
- 33:12Calgary department store and what does he do? Oh, don't
- 33:15tell me, he's shopless.
- 33:16Speaker 1: The very same petty crime that brought down the entire
- 33:19Miranda project exactly. He is arguably the most wanted man
- 33:23in North America, with a massive FBI dragnet looking for him,
- 33:27and he risks his freedom, his life to steal minor
- 33:30merchandise and stuff it in his knapsack.
- 33:33Speaker 2: And a store security guard spots him concealing the items
- 33:36and confronts him near the exit. What happens a violent
- 33:39physical struggle ensues. Ing pulls a handgun from his jacket
- 33:44and actually shoots the security guard directly in the hand.
- 33:47Oh my god, But the guard is incredibly brave, fights
- 33:50through the pain, manages to wrestle the weapon away, and
- 33:54with the help of several store patrons, physically subdues Ing
- 33:58on the floor until the Calgary Charles Zing is finally captured.
- 34:02Speaker 1: It should be a moment of massive triumph for the
- 34:05California Investigators. Inspector ed Erlatz flies up to the maximum
- 34:09security prison in Calgary to interrogate him face to face,
- 34:13but in gives them absolutely nothing. He sits there offering
- 34:16mostly one or two word answers, complete denial of the
- 34:19rapes and murders, and blames every single crime entirely on.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Leonard Lake, though critically he does admit to helping dispose
- 34:27of the bodies of Bond and Stampley.
- 34:28Speaker 1: So, armed with that admission and the physical evidence, the
- 34:31Calaveras County District Attorney Pete Smith formally indicts Charles ng
- 34:36on twelve counts.
- 34:37Speaker 2: A first degree murder twelve counts.
- 34:39Speaker 1: The sheer volume and cruelty of the crimes mean they
- 34:42can and will seek the death penalty. But the moment
- 34:45they file those charges, they hit a massive legal brick wall.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Yeah, an international loophole that halts the case in its tracks.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Now you might be thinking, how does an international border
- 34:55protect a serial killer you cross into Canada? They don't
- 34:59just forgive.
- 35:00Speaker 2: For a dozen murders, No, they don't.
- 35:02Speaker 1: So this is where the geopolitical legal maneuvering becomes maddening.
- 35:06The United States and Canada have a long standing extradition treaty, right,
- 35:10but that treaty contains a very specific, ironclad clause, and.
- 35:14Speaker 2: That clause is that Canada, which abolished capital punishment, will
- 35:18not extradite a prisoner back to the United States if
- 35:21that prisoner faces the death penalty.
- 35:23Speaker 1: It is a profound clash of legal philosophies.
- 35:26Speaker 2: It is Canada is not shielding a killer. They are
- 35:28upholding their national human rights charter against state sanctioned execution.
- 35:33And Charles ng, who has spent his entire time in
- 35:36solitary confinement rigorously studying the Canadian legal system, knows exactly
- 35:41how to weaponize this philosophical stance.
- 35:44Speaker 1: How does he do it?
- 35:45Speaker 2: Well? Before the extradition hearing can even legally begin, he
- 35:49must stand trial in Canada for the local charges of
- 35:52shoplifting and the armed assault on the security guard. Okay,
- 35:55to intentionally delay his return to California, he executes a
- 35:59brilliant legal manuvers. He waives his constitutional right to a
- 36:02jury trial in Canada. Wait why he explicitly asks for
- 36:05a speedy bench trial where a judge alone decides the
- 36:09verdict and rapidly secures a four and a half year
- 36:12prison sence.
- 36:13Speaker 1: I just have to express your disbelief on behalf of
- 36:15anyone listening to this.
- 36:17Speaker 2: It's wild.
- 36:18Speaker 1: How does a man responsible for a literal bone yard,
- 36:22a guy who built a cinderblock dungeon to enslave women,
- 36:26managed to use a petty Canadian shoplifting charge and a
- 36:29bench trial as a get out of jail free card
- 36:31for half a decade.
- 36:32Speaker 2: By securing a definitive multi year prison sentence in Canada,
- 36:36he guarantees legally that he cannot be extradited until that
- 36:39specific sentence is fully served. Oh I see, he buys
- 36:42himself nearly half a decade of absolute safety from the
- 36:45California death chamber.
- 36:46Speaker 1: That is maddening.
- 36:47Speaker 2: The Canadian justice system is operating exactly as it was
- 36:50designed to, processing local crimes efficiently, but Ing is exploiting
- 36:54its foundational principles to build a fortress of time around himself, and.
- 36:59Speaker 1: He uses that time and the Canadian prison to prepare
- 37:02for absolute war.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Yes he does.
- 37:04Speaker 1: There is an incredible, chilling anecdote from a Canadian prison guard.
- 37:09The guard overheard Ng talking to a fellow inmate in
- 37:12the yard laying out his master plan for when he
- 37:14finally gets sent back to California.
- 37:16Speaker 2: What did he say?
- 37:17Speaker 1: Ing tells the guy. If you want to delay the system,
- 37:20you just have to fire your lawyers.
- 37:22Speaker 2: And that single sentence becomes the blueprint for the next
- 37:25decade of judicial chaos. A decade. Yes. Ing fights the
- 37:29extradition through the Canadian courts for six agonizing years, utilizing
- 37:33every appeal process, taking it all the way to the
- 37:36Canadian Supreme Court.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Wow.
- 37:38Speaker 2: When his final appeal is denied in nineteen ninety one,
- 37:40he is finally put on an airplane in shackles and
- 37:43flown back to California.
- 37:44Speaker 1: But capturing him physically was nothing compared to the judicial
- 37:48circus he was about to unleave.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Oh, not even close.
- 37:51Speaker 1: September twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one, Charles ng Lands in California.
- 37:56The Calaveras County Sheriff's Department is terrified someone is going
- 37:59to try to assassinate him in a vigilante attack, so
- 38:02they actually deploy SWAT teams on the roof of the
- 38:05tiny county courthouse.
- 38:07Speaker 2: And remember the logistics we discussed earlier, right, calvers Calibert's
- 38:10County is a small, rural, deeply underfunded jurisdiction. Their historic
- 38:16courthouse is absolutely not equipped to handle a high profile
- 38:20maximum security prisoner facing a potential death penalty for twelve
- 38:24brutal murders.
- 38:24Speaker 1: So what do they do.
- 38:25Speaker 2: They literally have to spend tax payer money to build
- 38:29a special, secure metal cage inside the courtroom just to
- 38:32hold him safely during the preliminary proceedings.
- 38:35Speaker 1: And from the very second he steps into that metal cage,
- 38:38ing executes his Canadian delay strategy perfectly flawlessly. He starts
- 38:42filing an avalanche of frivolous handwritten legal motions. He complains
- 38:47about the jail food. He files a motion demanding a
- 38:50shorter commute from the holding cell to.
- 38:51Speaker 2: The courthouse, just wasting time.
- 38:53Speaker 1: He even demands that the special cage be dismantled because
- 38:56it prejudices the judge, and, true to his word in
- 38:59the Canade in prison yard, he starts sequentially firing his
- 39:02court appointed attorneys, claiming they are incompetent, which forces the
- 39:06court to halt proceedings to find new council.
- 39:09Speaker 2: In every single one of these motions, no matter how
- 39:13legally absurd or strategically ridiculous, has to be formally legally
- 39:17addressed by the prosecution in writing. That's exhausting, and the
- 39:20District Attorney's office in Calaveras is essentially a small town
- 39:24law firm. They have five attorneys total on staff for
- 39:27the entire county.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Wow.
- 39:29Speaker 2: They're completely physically overwhelmed by the sheer volume of paperwork
- 39:33and delayed tactics Ing is generating from his cell.
- 39:36Speaker 1: He manages to delay just the preliminary hearing for a
- 39:39full year, a whole year, and then the defense pulls
- 39:42out a massive, structurally altering trump card. They argue that
- 39:47because of the intense media scrutiny, remember the horrifying news
- 39:50cameras showing the bone fragments being raked from the dirt,
- 39:54Ing cannot possibly get a fair and impartial jury in
- 39:57Calaveras County.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Which legally is a fair argument.
- 40:00Speaker 1: And the judge agrees. The judge grants a change of venue,
- 40:04moving the entire trial four hundred miles south to Orange County, California.
- 40:08Speaker 2: The logistics and the financial burden of this moves are staggering.
- 40:12I can imagine the investigation has spanned eight years at
- 40:15this point. The physical case file is massive. They have
- 40:19to rent a thirty six foot commercial truck just to
- 40:23load two tons of evidence files, medical reports, type transcripts,
- 40:27and police logs. To transport it down to the new
- 40:30defense team in Orange County. Two tons two tons of paperwork.
- 40:34Speaker 1: So the new defense attorney assigned to him is a
- 40:36seasoned public defender named William Kelly, and Kelly looks at
- 40:40this two ton mountain of evidence, looks at the timeline
- 40:43and asks the judge for two and a half years
- 40:45to prepare his defense case, and he gets it. Meanwhile,
- 40:48the prostitution, led by District Attorney Peter Smith and Deputy
- 40:51Attorney General Charlene Honka, is helplessly watching the clock tick.
- 40:55Speaker 2: Which is terrible for a case. In criminal law, time
- 40:58is the enemy of truth. As years pass, physical evidence
- 41:02to grades, witnesses, memories fade into ambiguity, and tragically, crucial
- 41:06witnesses simply die, which.
- 41:08Speaker 1: Brings us to the most devastating blow. The prosecution faces
- 41:12Maurice Lebert. Right. During Ing's time in the Canadian prison,
- 41:16he shared a cell with a man named Maurice Labert. Ing,
- 41:19perhaps driven by his narcissism, used to entertain Labert by
- 41:22drawing him crude, grotesque cartoons of his crimes in California, sickening.
- 41:28One cartoon literally depicted Ng killing a baby and Ing
- 41:33vocally confessed all the horrific details of the Calaveras cabin
- 41:36to him in the dark, and to.
- 41:37Speaker 2: Gain favor with his own Canadian parole board, Labert turned
- 41:40those drawings over to the authorities and testified against Ng
- 41:44at the extradition hearings in Canada.
- 41:46Speaker 1: He was the key.
- 41:47Speaker 2: He was the only person alive on earth to whom
- 41:49Ing had fully confessed the scope of the murders. He
- 41:52was the prosecution's absolute star witness.
- 41:55Speaker 1: But before the trial in Orange County can even begin,
- 41:58Maurice Labert is killed in a fatal car crash while
- 42:00out on parole.
- 42:01Speaker 2: Just terrible luck and just.
- 42:03Speaker 1: To add a layer of dark mystery to it. When
- 42:05the police find his wrecked car, there is twenty thousand
- 42:08dollars in cash sitting inside it.
- 42:10Speaker 2: The loss of Labert's catastrophic for the state of it.
- 42:13Without his live testimony, the prosecution's case is almost entirely circumstantial.
- 42:18Wait really, yes, despite the horror of the scene, they
- 42:22have no physical fingerprints or DNA directly linking in to
- 42:26the murders themselves. Just the tapes, exactly, only the videotapes
- 42:30showing him assisting in torture and the stolen property found
- 42:33at his San Francisco apartment. They have to rely on
- 42:37hearsay exceptions to read his past testimony into the record,
- 42:41which is never as powerful for a jury as a
- 42:43live witness.
- 42:45Speaker 1: So thirteen grueling years after the bodies were pulled from
- 42:48the dirt, the trial finally begins in October nineteen ninety eight.
- 42:52They had to screen over two thousand potential jurors just
- 42:55to find twelve citizens who could commit to a trial
- 42:58scheduled to last nearly a year. It's massive, and even
- 43:01as jury selection is happening, Inng throws a massive violent
- 43:04fit in court, shouting obscenities, trying to halt the trial
- 43:08by claiming his rights are being violated, and.
- 43:10Speaker 2: The judge takes extreme measures.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Right The judge actually orders him to wear a remote
- 43:14controlled electric stun belt strapped under his clothes. If he
- 43:17acts up or threatens anyone, the bailiff can shock him
- 43:20with fifty thousand volts via a remote control.
- 43:22Speaker 2: It sets an incredibly tense, volatile stage for the proceedings.
- 43:27Well kidding in opening statements, the prosecution leans heavily on
- 43:30the horrific m lady's tape warning the jury, they will
- 43:34see Charles Zang actively torturing victim.
- 43:36Speaker 1: But the defense's strategy, orchestrated by William Kelly, is fascinating
- 43:40from a pure legal standpoint.
- 43:42Speaker 2: It really is.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Kelly's goal is not to prove Charles Ing as a saint.
- 43:45His goal is to put Leonard Lake on trial.
- 43:48Speaker 2: It's like a squid inking the water exactly. The defense
- 43:51is just pumping out all this horrifying evidence about the
- 43:54dead Leonard Lake to cloud the jury's vision so Charles
- 43:58z Ang can slip away unseen in.
- 43:59Speaker 1: The murky Look at the dead monster Leonard Lake, look
- 44:03at his sick, twisted journals, look at the shady ex
- 44:06wife who helped him. But whatever you do, don't look
- 44:09at my client.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Exactly. Kelly calls a string of women to the stand
- 44:13who had passed consensual relationships with Leonard Lake. They testify
- 44:17about Lake's deep obsession with bondage, his chilling belief in
- 44:21human sacrifice, and his terrifying fantasies of sex and death.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Okay, building up the monster.
- 44:27Speaker 2: And crucially, Kelly establishes, through cross examination of these witnesses
- 44:32that none of them had ever even met Charles ying.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Oh that's smart.
- 44:36Speaker 2: He paints a vivid, terrifying picture of Lake as the sole,
- 44:40autonomous mastermind who controlled everyone around him.
- 44:43Speaker 1: And then Kelly does something incredibly bold, almost theatrical. He
- 44:48calls Clara Lyn Bella's Lake's ex wife to the witness stand.
- 44:52Speaker 2: This is wild.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Remember she had a full immunity deal from the prosecution
- 44:56in exchange for her timeline of the escape. Right, So
- 44:59she sits down on the witch box and Kelly simply
- 45:01reads her written immunity agreement out loud to the jury,
- 45:04just reads it.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:05Speaker 1: The agreement explicitly says the state promises her immunity for
- 45:09crimes including murder, conspiracy, and aiding in a bedding. He
- 45:13finishes reading it, looks at the jury, looks at Bellaws
- 45:16and says no questions.
- 45:17Speaker 2: It is a brilliant, devastating tactical move. Else By not
- 45:20asking her a single direct question about the events, he
- 45:24legally prevents the prosecution from cross examining her and letting
- 45:27her explain herself. Oh, but he leaves the jury with
- 45:30the heavy lingering implication that the state gave a free
- 45:33pass to Lake, the real active accomplice his ex wife,
- 45:37while unfairly targeting ng who Kelly claims was merely a
- 45:41subservient terrified bystander caught in Lake's orbit.
- 45:44Speaker 1: The defense's misdirection is working flawlessly. They play audio tapes
- 45:48of Lake talking alone about his desire for an off
- 45:51the shelf sex partner that he can just put away
- 45:53in a box when he's bored. The jury is looking
- 45:56at a dead monster who clearly built the bunker, and
- 45:59they are looking at mostly circumstantial evidence against a living
- 46:03defendant who claims he was just following orders. Charles NG
- 46:06might actually beat the system.
- 46:07Speaker 2: He very well might have. But this is where the
- 46:10fatal flaw of criminal hubris enters the narrative and destroys everything.
- 46:13Of course, after the defense rests its primary case, Charles Ng,
- 46:18against the desperate pleading advice of his own seasoned attorneys,
- 46:21files a handwritten motion demanding to testify on his own behalf.
- 46:25Speaker 1: He just couldn't help himself.
- 46:27Speaker 2: He even threatens to fire William Kelly again mid trial
- 46:30if he isn't allowed to take the witness stand and
- 46:32speak to the jury directly.
- 46:33Speaker 1: Why, I mean really, why if he had just sat
- 46:37there silently and let his lawyer blame the dead guy,
- 46:40could he have walked away with a lesser charge, probably
- 46:43did his narcissistic need to be the smartest guy in
- 46:45the room the star of the show ultimately put him
- 46:48on death row.
- 46:49Speaker 2: The psychological profile of a killer voluntarily taking the witness
- 46:53stand is almost always rooted in extreme, blinding narcissism. Yeah
- 46:59Ing had spent over a Dame decade successfully manipulating the
- 47:02Canadian legal system and the American judicial bureaucracy. He truly
- 47:06believed he was the smartest person in the room.
- 47:08Speaker 1: He thought he could outsmart them.
- 47:10Speaker 2: He believed he could outsmart the seasoned prosecutors face to
- 47:13face on cross examination. That deep seated need for absolute
- 47:17control and public validation completely overrode his basic survival instincts.
- 47:22He couldn't stand the idea of being portrayed as just
- 47:24a dumb lackey.
- 47:25Speaker 1: So January twenty seventh, nineteen ninety nine, the accused serial
- 47:29killer takes the stand, and he is incredibly arrogantic in
- 47:33stream for hours on direct examination, he just denies everything.
- 47:38He claims he was a subservient bystander Underlig's total psychological control.
- 47:43He claims he never intended to hurt anyone, that he
- 47:45was just going along to survive.
- 47:47Speaker 2: But Deputy Attorney General Charlene Hanaka is waiting for him.
- 47:50Speaker 1: And she sets a brilliant, inescapable linguistic trap.
- 47:54Speaker 2: She uses the type transcripts of the m lady's tape
- 47:57to corner him.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Okay, how does she do it?
- 47:59Speaker 2: Remember Maurice Lebert, the dead in formant from Canada, right
- 48:03the prosecution had read his old Canadian testimony into the
- 48:06trial record. Labert had testified years ago that Ing bragged
- 48:10him in their cell about hearing the clicking of handcuffs
- 48:13on the video as the women were restrained.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Hanaka asks Ing about this detail on the stand. She
- 48:18asks him how Labert could possibly know about the distinct
- 48:21sound of the handcuff's clicking. She points out to the
- 48:24jury that the word clicking isn't anywhere on the official
- 48:28printed transcript of the video. The only way Labert could
- 48:31have known that highly specific sensory auditory detail is if
- 48:36Ing had proudly recounted the memory to him in that
- 48:38Canadian cell.
- 48:39Speaker 2: It completely destroys Ng's credibility in front of the jury completely.
- 48:43It proves he was actively bragging about the sensory details
- 48:46of the torture, not hiding from the memory as a frightened,
- 48:50traumatized bystander right, and then Hanika goes for the kill shot.
- 48:55Regarding his legal culpability, what does she do? She plays
- 48:59a specific short piece of audio from the videotape for
- 49:03the court room.
- 49:04Speaker 1: On the tape, amidst the horror, Charles Ng is clearly
- 49:07heard telling Leonard Lake the pieces on the table, meaning
- 49:10the handgun. Hanikah asks him why he said that, and Ng,
- 49:15scrambling to explain it away, admits on the stand that
- 49:17he wanted to let Lake know where the gun was
- 49:20so the victim, Kathleen Allen, wouldn't grab it and shoot him, and.
- 49:23Speaker 2: Honikah locks the trap shut. She points out to the
- 49:26jury that Kathleen Allen is handcuffed, she's wearing heavy leg shackles,
- 49:30and it is two armed men against one completely bound,
- 49:33terrified woman. By verbally warning Lake about the location of
- 49:36the weapon, Ng wasn't a passive observer. He was actively
- 49:40directing the scene to assure their absolute physical dominance and
- 49:44prevent any chance of the victim escaping.
- 49:46Speaker 1: Legally, it establishes him as a willing, active participant in
- 49:50the terror, completely destroying his defense of being a subservient bystander.
- 49:55Speaker 2: His own massive ego destroyed his multi million dollar defense strategy.
- 49:59Speaker 1: It really did so. After a grueling, emotionally draining trial
- 50:04and three agonizing weeks of jury deliberation, the verdict finally
- 50:08comes in on February twenty fourth, nineteen ninety nine. The
- 50:11jury finds Charles ng guilty of eleven counts first degree murder.
- 50:15They deadlocked on the matter of Paul Kosner, the man
- 50:18who owned the brown Honda, because they just didn't feel
- 50:20they had enough direct physical evidence beyond the car itself.
- 50:23But eleven counts is more than enough. Charles Ng is
- 50:26sentenced to death.
- 50:27Speaker 2: District Attorney Peter Smith reflected on the verdict with a
- 50:30heavy heart. He called himself the last man standing from
- 50:33Calaver's County.
- 50:34Speaker 1: Wow.
- 50:34Speaker 2: It took thirteen years of relentless, exhausting pursuit to close
- 50:38what became the longest and most expensive trial in the
- 50:41state's history, costing California tax peers over twenty million dollars.
- 50:46Speaker 1: An astonishing, exhausting journey from a clumsy, seventy five dollars
- 50:50stolen tool to a cyanide pill dissolving in a holding
- 50:54cell to a hidden cinderblock bunker in the mountains, to
- 50:58a Canadian prison cell, all culminating in a twenty million
- 51:01dollar trial that was ultimately saved by a killer's own
- 51:04staggering ego and inability to stay quiet.
- 51:07Speaker 2: And it serves as a powerful reminder to you, the listener,
- 51:10of the sheer, grueling dedication required by law enforcement. Yeah.
- 51:14Think of the Conservation Corps workers on their hands and knees,
- 51:18raking the dirt for bone fragments with their bare hands
- 51:21in the hot sun. Think of the prosecutor spending thirteen
- 51:24years fighting international treaties and endless delay tactics just to
- 51:28keep the case alive.
- 51:28Speaker 1: It's incredible.
- 51:29Speaker 2: It proves that our justice system, though deeply flawed, slow,
- 51:33and highly susceptible to manipulation by intelligent predators, can eventually
- 51:37grind out the truth if the people driving it refuse
- 51:40to give up.
- 51:41Speaker 1: But I want to leave you with a chilling concept
- 51:44to ponder, a thought that builds on everything we've unpacked today. Okay,
- 51:48think about that security guard in the Calgary department store,
- 51:51the one who got shot in the hand over some
- 51:54stolen merchandise, but held onto the shooter anyway.
- 51:56Speaker 2: A true hero.
- 51:57Speaker 1: What if he hadn't confronted in What if he had
- 52:00just let the shoplift run away? With his proven ability
- 52:04to manipulate people and exploit legal systems, would Charles Ing
- 52:08have found a new compliant accomplice. Would he have started
- 52:12a second Miranda project in the vast Canadian wilderness?
- 52:16Speaker 2: That is a terrifying thought.
- 52:17Speaker 1: And more broadly, how many other potential monsters are out
- 52:20there right now, relying on our daily tendency to brush
- 52:23off minor oddities a weird neighbor drilling holes in the floor,
- 52:27a stolen tool, a missing car while they build their
- 52:29own secret bunkers in plain sight. We want to believe
- 52:33the X ray will always show us the broken bone clearly,
- 52:36But as we've seen, sometimes the deadliest secrets are hidden
- 52:40right behind a false stoor, waiting in the muddy waters
- 52:43for a single, tiny loose thread to be pulled