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Into The Channel with Bay FC's Jordan Silkowitz · Into the Channel ⚽️ A Podcast Primarily About Women's Football

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  Hello. OK, welcome to Into the Channel
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  podcast. I'm real about one's football.
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  A very special episode, an interview episode.
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  I'm into the channel. I'm your host, Dino de Suspitas,
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  and I'm joined by my coast, Mr. Grandingle.
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  What's up, man? I'm feeling fantastic buddy, and
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  that is because we are joined by one of the most talented young
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  goalkeepers in the NWSL. She's previously spent time in
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  goal at The Ohio State University where she achieved a
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  spot on the Big 10s All Freshman team in 2019 before transferring
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  to Iowa State University in lovely Ames, IA where she made
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  43 appearances for the Cyclones and LED the Big 12 with 100
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  saves. In the 2022 season, she was
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  selected #18 in the 23 NWSL draft by the Kansas City Current
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  that was loaned to the Brisbane Roar in Australia's A League
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  where she made 19 appearances and really got a professional
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  career jump started. But for the purposes of today's
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  show, we will be talking to her about her season as Bay FC's
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  number one goalkeeper and a year filled with acrobatic saves and
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  material growth around the squad.
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  It is an honor and a privilege to welcome to the program Jordan
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  Silkowitz. Thanks guys.
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  Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
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  Thrilled to have you. Yeah, for sure.
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  All right, Jordan. So let's get started.
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  Obviously this season, not the season you know we were hoping
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  for, not the season I'm sure you were hoping for.
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  But looking back and I know there's still one more game to
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  play. What are you going to take away
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  from a positive standpoint from this year?
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  I think just taking a step back and reflecting first, like
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  personally, I think this is a year you dream of for the
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  longest time. Obviously in this position it's
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  you wait for your time. It's a very experienced based
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  position. I think getting to step in to
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  that starter position this year has just been a dream come true.
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  And getting each game, getting to play with people I've looked
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  up to, people I've aspired to be like, has just been incredible
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  and getting to grow. And with this group of girls and
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  our coaches and everyone involved in the organization,
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  it's been nothing short of amazing.
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  And we all know professional sports, there's highs, there's
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  lows, good teams that are at the top, they've gone through spells
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  at the bottom before. And you know, it's like kind of
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  a slingshot. You got to go back before you
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  can go forward. So that's how I'm looking as
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  this year, you know, we've learned a lot of lessons, we've
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  done a lot of great things as well, but this is just going to
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  catapult us into a better place for next season.
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  So I'm just excited to keep growing and continue developing
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  with this team. Jordan, you mentioned the
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  organization. Can you talk about, I haven't
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  quite been able to put my finger on it, but it does seem like,
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  you know, Bay FC as a club is doing things at a high level, a
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  very professional kind of like outfit.
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  Can you talk a little bit about what that's been like?
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  You know, you obviously you're not getting the results, but it
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  does feel like there's something foundationally getting put
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  together the right way. Can you talk about what what
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  it's been like being a part of the organization as a whole?
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  Yeah, obviously this is the team's second year.
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  I think I have to remember that as well and the opportunities
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  that this organization provides us with as players, both on and
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  off the field is something I'm truly so grateful to be a part
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  of. The opportunity we've had to
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  develop network off the field. Not that any of us want our
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  careers to come to the end anytime soon, but just the
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  opportunities we have, networking events, thinking
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  about that next step when it comes because you know, you have
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  a team, yes, people of all different ages.
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  I think that's something I've never been exposed to before.
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  And I think the path that they're paving off the field and
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  our personal development has been incredible.
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  And also on the field at this organization, they want to trend
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  set, they want to be the standard, set the standard to
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  continue pushing this field. And I think the plans of this
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  organization has for the future and the foundation and
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  groundwork they're laying now is something that I know personally
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  I'm super excited to be a part of and really looking forward to
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  the future it wants to come. Yeah, totally.
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  I, I think you guys definitely have a, have a framework there
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  to make those steps forward. So you talk to, you talk about
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  setting that framework. You talked a little bit about
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  like the slingshot principle. I, I want to want to build off
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  that a little bit. I mentioned it in the intro, a
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  little background on our podcast.
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  We started as a UEFA Women's Champions League show.
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  And so we have a, a real fascination with world football.
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  And you know, obviously I, I mentioned your time in Brisbane.
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  What did that kind of do for you as the slingshot effect, as kind
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  of the building effect, you know, going about as far away as
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  you could go to Australia, to Brisbane, Can you like kind of
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  describe what that experience was like and then even getting
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  the playing time that you got over there?
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  Yeah, wow. I just think looking back my
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  rookie year coming out of college, I was really fortunate
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  to be with some great goalkeepers, Cassie Miller and
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  80 French people that have accomplished what I want to
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  accomplish in my lengthy career hopefully.
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  And I just wanted really trying to be a sponge, learn.
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  The jump from college to Pro is really hard for me.
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  There was the pace of everything, the speed, and I
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  just tried to learn as much as I can in that first season I had.
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  And then having the opportunity to go on loan to Australia and
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  be able to see how much I had grown as a player and as a
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  person. I think when you you leave the
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  United States, like you said, it was I think my travel day there
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  was like 30 hours. It was something crazy when we
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  flew. I flew right to Brisbane, got
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  all my medical done and then I left to go to Melbourne to play
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  in our first game the next day. So I was like jet lag.
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  All right, here we go it. Was is it a victory?
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  Do I recall that being a? Victory for you.
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  It was a 21 victory, I believe. Yeah, huge.
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  That was just so exciting and such a whirlwind and like I'm in
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  Brisbane, I, I still talk to my goalkeeper coach and head coach
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  from that team, Alex and Dale, two people I really look up to
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  and value their opinion and just my time there.
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  I mean, you're in Australia and it's the summer, so it's like
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  the winter months, but it's summer there.
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  So being able to go over there and start actually playing games
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  because I've never had that experience in the professional
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  world before. Obviously, I was just learning a
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  three in Kansas City and being able to travel the country and
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  play the game I love was something that was so special.
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  And my family came out, got to see my professional debut.
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  So that was just incredible to have them there with me.
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  But my experience and my time there gave me OK.
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  It's like the little details that you don't really think
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  about. What does a game day look like
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  when you have to prepare to actually play versus not
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  playing? Being a 2, being a three, Like
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  how does that vary and just kind of like really iron out those
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  details and being in a foreign country have so many different
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  things you have to worry about or think about as well.
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  And so I think my four or five months down there really helps
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  me kind of grasp like one, who do I want to be as a goalkeeper?
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  Like what is my goalkeeper identity going to be?
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  How am I going to get there? And kind of what is that path
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  forwards? And then just getting to
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  compete. There's nothing better than game
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  day, you know, So being able to go out there and put a jersey on
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  and play it was it was awesome. And I think I still reflect on
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  what I've learned there and try to put into use here.
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  That makes a ton of sense. I will ask one more Australia
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  related question. This might be a goofy question
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  because I'm not sure, I'm not. Familiar with?
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  I'm not sure with how I'm not familiar with like how Brisbane
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  is laid out as a city and things like that.
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  But what I know about Australia is that there's a ton of like
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  wildlife and like, you see, I, you know, I see these like
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  documentaries about like giant spiders and like snakes and all
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  this stuff, stuff that makes me a little squeamish.
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  Did you ever, do you have any wildlife encounters or just
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  something that you saw were like, whoa, it's real different
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  out here. You know, it was crazy.
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  We went right by where we live. There was kind of like a like a
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  wildlife walk or whatever walking through there just in
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  like the forest and you look up and see koalas.
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  You're like, whoa, like I've, I've only seen a call in the zoo
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  before and like barely from so far away, but they're just right
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  there. And you're like, they're like, I
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  don't know, squirrels basically. I mean, but you're like, whoa.
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  But I was really thankful. I was terrified in my apartment.
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  There was three of us, all Americans.
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  We would close the toilet seat every night.
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  Like I would bang on the toilet seat because told snakes like
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  stay, stay in there. But I thankfully never had any
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  encounters with a snake because if not, I would have been like,
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  put me on the next flight home. We're spiders.
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  I just missed the Huntsman. They're like this big.
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  That's what I've heard she's. Colossal and I'm just so
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  grateful. But you know what they did have
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  there that I was not expecting? Cockroaches and not normal.
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  They're like this big and like this thick.
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  Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
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  Dino and I both lived in New York for a while.
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  That's where we met. So that's that's intense, even
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  for a New York cockroach. That's a serious cockroach right
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  there. Yeah.
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  Yeah, more of a rugby style cockroach.
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  George, you talk a little bit about kind of like, I'm very
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  fascinated by this because you talk a lot about like the player
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  that you want to be your player identity.
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  We got to chat a little bit at one of the the post game
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  pressers this season at Bay. And I think I asked you kind of
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  like a like a very defensive goalkeeper question about
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  getting, you know, stopping shots.
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  And you're like, no, no, no. But I also like to kind of like
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  distribute. Can you talk a little bit more
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  about, you know, obviously there's a lot of discussion
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  about the modern goalkeeper, but I'm sure you have a very
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  specific conception of what kind of goalkeeper you are today and
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  sounds like you have a pretty good conception of who you want
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  to be in the future. Can you talk a little bit about
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  like your, your goalkeeper DNA and how you see that?
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  Yeah, so I actually spent this offseason with one of my
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  goalkeeper coaches from college who's coached in this league.
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  His name's Dan Ball. He's at the University of
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  Nebraska right now. He's at Angel City Gotham before
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  that he coached me at Iowa State for my first season.
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  And he was actually the first person that made me really
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  realize like, wow, I could I can play pro and I just I can play
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  pro. Like I could be a great pro.
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  And I sat down with him this offseason and I was like, OK,
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  who do I want to be this year? Like who am I going to be both
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  in possession? So with the ball at my feet and
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  out of possession. So I just kind of breakdown what
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  we talked about just for this season and I look forward to
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  doing this again, like obviously building kind of off these
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  principles, but for in possession, I wanted to display
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  an infectious confidence on the ball and be able to pick teams
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  apart with different passes, whether it's a playing through
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  to A6, playing around or playing over.
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  I think having those different passes in your pocket, your
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  impossible defense, you know, teams want to step high and
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  press you great, I'll play the space and behind you want to set
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  off perfect. I'll pick in between your lines.
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  And I think for me just continuing to develop the
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  different of tools and passes I have in my arsenal, like
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  different textured balls is something that I really want to
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  add to my game. And I ran track for a while.
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  So I have a little bit of speed in my in my background and just
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  learning how to kind of utilize that in defending the space and
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  behind was something that was huge, I think out of possession.
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  So kind of more shot stopping wise some.
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  I have a big area to grow in this, but I think with my height
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  and size, the right environment, I can really kind of foster
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  this. But I want to be a beast in the
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  air. I want to dominate anything
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  airily. I just like I said, I still
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  have. I think that's a big part of my
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  game that I can really grow and really hone in on this
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  offseason. I also want to dominate like a
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  four 4 yard window. So I want to be really clean
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  within 4 yards. I think with my size and my
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  explosiveness and power, I can really foster that and I want to
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  continue to develop that. A big thing for me also was a
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  spread save. It's very modern.
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  It's really added into the game and I think that's the biggest
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  area I've really improved in this year is kind of my spread
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  in like A1V1 situation. And then the last.
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  I wanted to be able to come away with game saving saves every
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  once in a while. Like being able to pull those
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  out, you know, you have the ones you're supposed to save, but
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  making those ones that people like, wow, like you weren't
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  supposed to touch that. So that's like kind of, I
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  actually have those like kind of written in my locker just every
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  day and on my mirror at home and just that's who I want to be.
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  And that's who I my uncle, one of my dad's cousins this year,
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  actually texted me after the first time we played Portland
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  And he was like, I don't know what it was about you, but you
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  were just so. And he's like watch a little bit
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  of soccer, but nothing crazy. And for him to be like, wow, you
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  just looked so calm and on the ball.
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  Someone that, that's the goal of mine, you know, and something I
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  really wanted. And to have someone that doesn't
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  always like watch a lot of soccer be able to point that out
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  was was huge. That is really fascinating.
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  It it, I mean, just hearing you rattle them off you clearly
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  they're written in the locker, like you said, written on,
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  written in the house. That's that's really
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  interesting. I mean, you, you know, you, you
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  strike us as a as a student of the game when you kind of talk
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  about, you know, breaking those items down, those different
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  pieces of goalkeeping. Just a little, little side note,
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  I'm a Manchester City Football Club supporter over in England.
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  And I love the way Ederson played.
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  And you talk about having having confidence with the ball at your
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  feet. And sometimes in Eddie's case,
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  maybe a little crazy confidence, maybe some crazy decisions out
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  there. Who are the goalkeepers that you
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  look over, look at in the NWSL or in world football that you
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  kind of look at and say, OK, I like this piece of their game,
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  this piece of their game? Yeah, it's actually a great
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  point. I think that's something I've
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  like realized, you know, you have like, like Anderson,
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  watching him play is so fun and just the confidence that he has
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  on the ball and the different passes he has in his arsenal,
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  like everyone, it's so funny when the crowd's like, everyone
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  gets nervous and I'm like, oh, no, I love that.
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  Let's go bring it on. Be brave out here.
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  So it's been really cool to see the position kind of trend in
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  that direction. I think from the female side of
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  the game, Caitlin Sheridan is someone that both feet can ping
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  a ball and pick your team apart. And she's so fun to watch.
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  And I aspire to be like that with the ball at my feet.
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  I think, you know, annoyer just the same was so fun.
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  He's always so fun to watch with the ball at his feet.
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  I just love am, I think the biggest thing I've watched
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  Caitlin for a lot of years and even when she messes up, she
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  does the same thing. Like it doesn't deter her from
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  wanting to do something different.
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  And I just respect and Amara that so much that regardless,
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  she knows she knows what she can do and she doesn't kind of let
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  anything differ her from that. I love that.
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  And I feel like you and Sheridan and please, you know, Dino and I
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  always say like the, the crappy amateur football that we played
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  growing up, like we, you know, we, we, we know very little.
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  We we watch, we try to enjoy, we try to soak up information from
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  coaches and you guys as players, but we always concede we don't
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  know a damn thing about playing goalkeeper.
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  It's like a different universe from being a player out in the
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  field. But I I do feel like you and
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  Sheridan have some similarities even in just like shot stopping
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  springiness. Is that is that fair to say?
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  I'm honored. I would say that comparison any
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  day. What?
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  No. Yeah.
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  I, I really respect so much of her game and and continuing.
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  I love watching her play both for Canada and for San Diego.
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  Jordan speak When did you become a goalkeeper?
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  Oh, great question. Probably in like 7th grade one
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  of my coaches told me I can never be a goalkeeper, so I'm a
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  fairly stubborn individual and I said OK, watch me.
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  Let's put that person. In, that's your call.
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  I was like, all right, let's go. I will say my nickname at first
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  when I first started was Swiss cheese.
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  The balls always smoked for me. Yeah, not not a great nickname,
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  especially when you have Silky sitting right there and it's an
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  easy move past. It I like the progression where
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  it's going. There you go.
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  When I heard, I think Alyssa called you that at one of the
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  pressures, I was like, damn, it's a cool nickname.
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  I wanted to ask, I wanted to ask you a, a, a goalkeeper, a follow
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  up goalkeeper question. It sounds like you've got a lot
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  of, you've crushed a lot of tape in your day.
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  So we've got a Hall of Fame here at the ITC and I'll, I'll write
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  off some names of who's in it's, it's a little bit of a
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  hodgepodge, but I want to kind of put you on the spot a little
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  bit. So we've got Aaron Cuthbert,
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  Aitana Beaumati, Emily Sonnet, one of the original Lionesses,
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  Carol Thomas, the Orlando Prides, Corey Dyke and Chloe
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  Kelly. That's it's a very, it's a very
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  small room. So I love that.
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  You have obviously a vast wealth of goalkeeper knowledge.
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  What goalkeeper is Jordan Silkowitz putting into the ITC
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  Hall of Fame? Wow.
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  Wow, Honestly, I'm going to have to go Caitlin.
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  Oh, let's go. I love that.
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  I'm going, Caitlin, Yeah. Congratulations, Caitlin
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  Sheridan, you are the first, second, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th
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  inventee into the ITC Hall of Fame.
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  Congrats. Thanks, Jordan.
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  Appreciate that. I can't believe you made Jordan
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  care about our stupid Hall of Fame.
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  Oh, I love that. I love that you guys do.
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  That well, you know, it's only a matter of.
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  Time for Jordan. Jordan with everyone's with
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  everyone on it. There'll be a digital one in the
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  works where we're definitely working on it.
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  What we, you know, we'll get some statue people that are
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  better than the Ronaldo and Dwyane Wade guys that put those
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  together and you know, everything's everything's in
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  motion for sure. I wanted to ask you obviously
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  one more match on the on the docket Racing Louisville.
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  It's been a while since you've been able to kind of like notch
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  AW1. How are you approaching this
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  final match and what would it mean to kind of go out on a high
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  note against the team that that is playing?
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  You know, it's got some stakes it's playing for.
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  Yeah, I mean, I think we've said for the last couple games like
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  let's play spoiler. Obviously we don't, it's not the
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  ideal position to be in, but love to be fighting for playoff
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  spotter in playoffs. But we're going to do what we
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  can. I mean, we go out every game
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  obviously wanting three points, wanting a clean sheet.
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  Would love one of those on the weekend as well.
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  It's been a while since we have one of those as well.
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  So I think just for ourselves, for our staff, for everyone, we
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  go out every weekend going in for three points.
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  But this one would be especially nice, just kind of with the back
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  half of the year we've had, being able to end the note on
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  the high, send Alberton out on a high.
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  Can I hit you with one more question before we and thank you
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  for being so generous with your time.
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  Please, I have nothing more time so.
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  So you mentioned that Thorns match at home.
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  That was a clean sheet. I believe that was the last
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  clean sheet for Bay, a match that really jumped out to me.
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  You guys drew at Orlando think you had 7 saves in that match.
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  If if we ask you for what is the silky snapshot of the best match
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  you played this this season or maybe the match you felt best
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  about, what would you what kind of comes to mind for you?
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  I'm. Going to go 2, I'm going to go
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  one where we got the result and where we did it.
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  I think in that Portland game, I really felt like all the pieces
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  for me really came together coming off of being in Germany
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  with the 20 threes going into that match, I've just felt
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  great. I feel like the game was really
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  slowing down. I was training really well.
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  I felt great. And I think if I were to look
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  collectively at kind of what was my best overall performance
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  together, I'd probably have to go with that Portland game.
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  Unfortunately, I was, I didn't realize that I was sick in that
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  game and was out for a few weeks after that.
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  I had picked up mono in Germany, so that was a that was a
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  heartbreak. Yeah.
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  So I was like 6 to 8 weeks after that.
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  But I feel like in that game I really put it all together and
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  it it felt great, honestly. And then I would say where we
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  didn't get the result was it the second time we played Kansas
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  City? That first four, one loss in
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  Kansas City hurt. I learned a lot in that in that
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  game, obviously playing my former team.
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  And then I think the second time around back at home, I felt I
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  really came alive honestly. And we lost 2 nothing but.
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  I would say it's probably one of my better out of possession
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  games. Yeah, KC beat everybody to
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  nothing this year, it seems like.
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  Not not last weekend. True.
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  Yeah, I hear that. All right.
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  OK. I think we I think we did it.
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  This is another episode to the channel.
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  Grant, I really appreciate you, bro.
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  Jordan, thank you so, so much for joining us.
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  We really, really appreciate the time.
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  No, of course, thanks for having me.
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  You guys are awesome. Thank you so much.
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  Thank you very everybody for watching and we will see you all
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  next time.