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Alex Anzalone talks Lions' 52-point dominance, the rise to #1, and Dan Campbell’s winning culture · NFL explained.

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Speaker 1: And here we are another week of Off the Edge
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Speaker 1: with your host, me, Cam Jordan. I'm sitting here all
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Speaker 1: the way frustrated with the season. But you know what,
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Speaker 1: there's nine weeks left, nine games left, ten weeks left
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Speaker 1: if you encount the bye week. There's enough time to
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Speaker 1: turn this season around and make it a possibly good season.
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Speaker 1: You know, like nobody ever saw the same saluson six games.
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Speaker 1: Hasn't happened since like two thousand and five. Six games
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Speaker 1: in a row, never been in this predicament. I don't
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Speaker 1: know I've ever lost six in a row. But that's
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Speaker 1: not We're here for it. Look, I'm excited because I've
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Speaker 1: got one of my former teammates over at Detroit Lions
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Speaker 1: who are there fighting for the number one spot their
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Speaker 1: NFC North Division, A linebacker, a captain. I'm bringing my guy,
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Speaker 1: alex Anzeloni, you know, so just pop this off. Hey,
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Speaker 1: here we are are for another week of Off the
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Speaker 1: Edge the podcast with me, your host, Cam Jordan. There's
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Speaker 1: so many things I'd love to talk about, but I'm
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Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead and bring in a former teammate
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Speaker 1: of mine, a captain of the Detroit Lions, a man
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Speaker 1: who's had one hundred tackles and back to back years
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Speaker 1: aiming for a third consecutive hunt tackle situation should have
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Speaker 1: been a Pro Bowl last year, but you know, I digress,
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Speaker 1: my guy, Alex Azeloney, appreciate you for tapping in Roski. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's about time, you know what I'm saying. Like, I
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Speaker 1: just watched my friends leave and just like have stellar careers,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm I'm just happy and you know.
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Speaker 2: I'm a theme. Is it a theme?
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Speaker 1: Yep? Yeah, they leave and they're just all happy. Whatever.
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Speaker 1: How is how is Detroit?
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Speaker 2: Bro?
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Speaker 1: How do you? How's the transition? You got married that
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Speaker 1: the year before then? Yeah, now you got a kid
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Speaker 1: and you know, captain and everything's going well for you.
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Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean, I mean yeah, I mean it's it was definitely
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Speaker 3: a transition. I mean that twenty twenty one, so, like,
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Speaker 3: you know, coming into it, I think that I mean, personally,
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Speaker 3: I knew what it.
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Speaker 2: Was going to be just talking to Dan and Brad
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Speaker 2: when we when I first.
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Speaker 3: Signed here, and you know, they kind of just ripped
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Speaker 3: it to the studs and you know, we didn't really
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Speaker 3: have like the horses to really compete, and that's kind
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Speaker 3: of why we were competing, but we weren't finishing, you know,
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Speaker 3: the way way we could have. And then you know,
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Speaker 3: just progressively growing each year through. You know, I'm in
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Speaker 3: the year four here, so it's is crazy to think
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Speaker 3: of it's been.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, year eight.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we we love it. We love it. Uh,
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Speaker 1: just got your let's just talk about it, like you
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Speaker 1: I was watching, you know, I was like, I looked
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Speaker 1: up Sunday. You guys were schmacking Tennessee. You know, put
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Speaker 1: put together a great stretch, beat the hell out of Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: convincingly beat Minnesota, who I thought was was by for
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe by for the top of the NFC
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Speaker 1: North with you guys, and then the week before splacked
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys with a fifty burger. Just just tell me, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, the last few weeks, what's been going on,
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Speaker 1: because clearly the mojo in the confidence has clearly had
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Speaker 1: a forever in your favor.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we're we're clicking right now. And you know,
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Speaker 3: unfortunately it's October. You know, it's still early and and
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Speaker 3: we're six and one. But at the same time, it's
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Speaker 3: it's still a good thing. But you know, it's just
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Speaker 3: playing complimentary football, not turn the ball over. We're getting
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Speaker 3: a hell of turnovers on defense, and like this past
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Speaker 3: game we had I forget how many yards on special teams,
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Speaker 3: but we're a defensive stay and we got a touchdown
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Speaker 3: on pump return.
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Speaker 2: So, uh, things are just clicking right now.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when all three phases is firing, right, Oh
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Speaker 1: that's a storm, right. You know, how's my guy Jared Guff,
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Speaker 1: you know, for a fellow cow beart.
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Speaker 2: No, he's good. He's balling right now. I think he's
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Speaker 2: you know, very yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Very in the talks with for MVP in my opinion,
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Speaker 3: although this past game he threw for like he was
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Speaker 3: like twelve or fifteen with.
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Speaker 2: Eighty five yards just because of the fuel position that
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Speaker 2: he was getting.
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Speaker 3: He was insane, I think at the ball like at
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Speaker 3: the two plus twenty yard line on like five possessions.
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Speaker 2: So I didn't really have much much to work with.
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Speaker 1: Y'all what forty seven.
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Speaker 2: Fifty two or something like fifty two to fourteen?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, without even looking at you be like,
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Speaker 1: oh man, they must have had a hell of a game.
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Speaker 2: Excuse you what, it's weird?
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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey. However, the wins come as long as they
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Speaker 1: keep coming on. Nobody nobody asked like, how did you
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Speaker 1: get there? They just asked, you know, no doubt speaking
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Speaker 1: of that, you know, your first sack of the season, though,
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Speaker 1: Can we talk? Hey, I saw the highlight it like
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Speaker 1: all out.
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Speaker 2: Blabby too well, yeah, we had a little fress go on.
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Speaker 2: I love fres go on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right here, Hey, K came down the pipeline. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: makes a rude alh come here? Yeah, hey, but you
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Speaker 1: know what what's beautiful about this is you don't you
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Speaker 1: can sometimes trick off those freebies you get to.
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You're right, You're right.
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Speaker 3: Those are the honestly, I have one on Monday night.
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Speaker 3: We were playing the race last year and it's a
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Speaker 3: free run. They messed up the protection.
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Speaker 2: I had a free run. I grew up.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is the hardest act to get really,
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Speaker 3: it's the layups the hardest.
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Speaker 1: Hey, the right foot let right layer, like you like,
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Speaker 1: should I be up?
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Speaker 2: This right foot down?
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Speaker 1: And you got them lined up and then you just
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Speaker 1: fall off of me.
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: I think I think last year or maybe two years ago,
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Speaker 1: I fell off Lamar Jackson twice in one play like
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Speaker 1: hit him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's understandable though, just.
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Speaker 1: You're like, that's it's like, that's what I'm saying. You're like,
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Speaker 1: you like, I gotta break down, but I gotta hit,
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Speaker 1: but I gotta.
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Speaker 3: There's no there's no there's no teaching. The coach can't
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Speaker 3: even tell you what to do against them.
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Speaker 1: No, but you got your sack and another win, which
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Speaker 1: puts y'all what you're tied in your division?
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Speaker 2: No first place? You know, yeah we got but Minnesota
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Speaker 2: lost the game.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, how do you feel the number one seed?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even Halloween yet, so it's like, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, and we're playing at Lambeau this week, so you know,
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's really the focus.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember remember the month of November. That's where you make.
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Speaker 2: Your head exactly exactly. Some say, some say the season
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Speaker 2: doesn't start till Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 3: Some some say.
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Speaker 1: That, hmmm, I mean for some for so for for us,
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Speaker 1: we're over here fighting for able you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's the greatest thing about you know, the greatest thing
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Speaker 1: about a seventeen week season. At least there's seventeen games.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a whole nine left, so a
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Speaker 1: lot can happen in these nine games. Number one could
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Speaker 1: could fall down, and number exactly bottoms can get to
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Speaker 1: midjor top tier. So it just all depends. Do you
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Speaker 1: think the NFC North is the best division in football?
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think before I say yes. I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to think other divisions who are hot right now?
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Speaker 2: Do you know any of any.
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Speaker 1: In the NFC. It's it's all really sort.
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Speaker 3: Of up there, you know, like yeah, it's it's kind
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Speaker 3: of to tell, but I mean, yeah, you look at.
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Speaker 2: Minnesota, Green Bay, Chicago.
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Speaker 3: I think that they're all, you know, especially Chicago, they're
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Speaker 3: kind of exceeding expectations with the rookie quarterback right now.
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Speaker 3: So I think that they're all up there. And yeah,
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Speaker 3: I would definitely say so.
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Speaker 1: I mean i'd say overall record I guess you know something,
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Speaker 1: I'd say the NFC East. I mean, if you think
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Speaker 1: about Washington being Chicago this past weekend put them out, like, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I said Washington, the Eagles, but then the Giants and
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Speaker 3: Cowboys kind.
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Speaker 1: Of right, which doesn't really help the case. But their
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Speaker 1: top two is contenders, you know, Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So if you if you say record wise, you're probably
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Speaker 1: looking at NFC North is strong to destroy.
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Speaker 3: Themselves, right, Yeah, yeah, we got there's a blood bath
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Speaker 3: coming and we see who comes out.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. I mean all the other divisions like it's
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Speaker 1: it's all winnable. They're all within a game or two
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Speaker 1: of each other. Inn Seed North, y'all still sort of
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Speaker 1: a game or two within each other, just at the
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Speaker 1: tops of division. Which yeah, like I said, it's a
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Speaker 1: bloodbath coming, there's gonna be a reckoning. I was like,
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Speaker 1: speaking of your division, did you see, uh, did you
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Speaker 1: see the Chicago Bears and was that Jane Daniels their battle?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my dog Tyreek just yeah on that hell, Mary.
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Speaker 2: Man, it was not good.
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Speaker 1: He was out there pointing, Yeah, that was playing around.
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Speaker 1: He was waving. He didn't even he didn't even realize
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Speaker 1: that play had happened.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I saw.
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Speaker 3: I saw a picture of the Bears fans like pointing
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Speaker 3: at him to turn around.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's stuff. And I know I know him personally,
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Speaker 2: and you know he's a good dude.
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Speaker 1: He's just he's not a Gator boy.
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Speaker 2: Huh No, he went Miaomi. Yeah close, but no, he Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's tough.
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Speaker 1: That's college rival.
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Speaker 2: No, what state Poor State Georgia l s U.
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Speaker 1: But the hell no, this is so we talk about
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Speaker 1: when we're talking about colleges. You can't have multiple rivals, Bro,
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Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. You went to Florida. You either
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Speaker 1: you pick one and you stick to it. What the
9:01
Speaker 1: hell is?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so Georgia Georgia we played a neutral site
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Speaker 3: in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 2: Sure, So it's like, is that our rival or is
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Speaker 2: it Florida State? That we play both of them every year? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: But Florida and now we.
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Speaker 2: Play LSU and I hate LSU do why?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That's on. Like I was gonna say, I assume for
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Speaker 1: Florida would be like a Miami situation because you got
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Speaker 1: a lot of Miami talent that goes to Florida, or
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Speaker 1: it would be like you know Florida.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just we just don't play him every year.
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Speaker 1: So it's like so okay, yeah, you know better than me?
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Speaker 1: For me, like, I hate everything that is Cardinal Red,
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Speaker 1: like the stupid dancing tree that's over at Stanford. We
9:44
Speaker 1: have something called the Acts. We've been fighting for it
9:46
Speaker 1: for like one hundred and twelve years.
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Speaker 2: That's cool. That's a cool rival.
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Speaker 1: That's a great ribvaly. You can't have multiple risings. There's
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Speaker 1: not enough hate in my heart. So like that's like,
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Speaker 1: that's like, now you're in the NFC North, who's your rival?
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Speaker 1: Like we know, we know Green Bay, Minnesota's the viral.
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Speaker 1: It's sort of like everybody hates everybody everyone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know all of them.
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Speaker 2: All of them.
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Speaker 1: You've been up there four years?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate all of them.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Liza been down the past thirty years.
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Speaker 2: So it's like they want revenge on everyone.
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Speaker 1: At least m m. Okay, there we go. Because I
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Speaker 1: was like, you know what it is with New Orleans,
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Speaker 1: Like if we don't win anything but two games, it
10:28
Speaker 1: better be against Atlanta.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta hate everybody, Like yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's a lot of it's a relative, is.
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Speaker 1: It now that you're now that you're part of Detroit?
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Speaker 1: Do you do you not hate the Falcons?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 1: Has that alleviated? No, that's so dism The hate is
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Speaker 1: real there, you know. Yeah, Yeah, that's just that's just crazy,
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Speaker 1: all right. I mean with you guys being at the
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Speaker 1: number one position, you know, you know, take it back
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Speaker 1: to the NFL number one spot in your division. There's
11:02
Speaker 1: much success that you guys had last year hitting the
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Speaker 1: NFC Divisional Game championship. Yep, that's I'll say, what's the
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Speaker 1: mentality now.
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Speaker 2: You know, I mean you know you've been there?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I've been I've been close to like the feeling. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so like we deserve it.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, yeah.
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Speaker 3: But like you know in twenty eighteen when we had
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Speaker 3: to like regroup going into twenty nineteen, that that sucks,
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Speaker 3: you know, just because you know what it takes to
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Speaker 3: get there, and you know it's.
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Speaker 2: Like can we do it again?
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Speaker 3: And you know that's that's the hard part because every
11:33
Speaker 3: year is new, and you know, that's kind of like
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Speaker 3: the biggest lesson that I learned from. And that's really why,
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Speaker 3: like last year, I was so upset when we lost,
11:42
Speaker 3: because a lot of these young dudes on our team
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Speaker 3: have no clue what it takes to get there, and you.
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Speaker 2: Know, just just you start back at zero, right.
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Speaker 1: Like four years ago, what was your record to what
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Speaker 1: it is now? You know, like four years ago you
11:56
Speaker 1: guys were on the cusp of or like I'm a hey,
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Speaker 1: are we and rebuild mo? Whatever? It is, and now
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Speaker 1: you're like, all right, we've got some dogs, we got talent,
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Speaker 1: we have the ability. Now we have to show each
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Speaker 1: and every week we're still top dogs.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, it's a climb.
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Speaker 1: And then you get the playoffs and it's one missed up.
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Speaker 1: You'd be like, damn, we have to restart it all exactly. Yea,
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Speaker 1: I'll say, what's what's what's Dan Campbell like as a
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Speaker 1: head coach? Because we had him as a tight end coach, but.
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Speaker 3: As a head coach, bro, everyone asked me like what
12:28
Speaker 3: was he like in New Orleans? It's like just I
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Speaker 3: don't know, he like led a couple of teams right,
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Speaker 3: Like it wasn't he wasn't speaking in front of everyone frequently,
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Speaker 3: you know, like when Seawan was like not there.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. But that's what what what's the what's the difference
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Speaker 1: between like the the the Sean Payton versus the Dan Campbell.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he has some Sean in them. Like there are
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Speaker 3: times when you know, you could see it in his face,
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Speaker 3: like oh, you know, like he's all like the jovial
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Speaker 3: day that.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people see in his pressers.
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Speaker 3: He's kind of like, you know, he's got some he's
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Speaker 3: got some backbone to him, right.
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Speaker 1: The man came out like a beginning with said he
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Speaker 1: was gonna buy somebody's knee caps off scratch Cross.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm saying that. Yeah, I've known him for
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Speaker 2: eight years now, and I walk around I'm like, hmm,
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Speaker 2: maybe I.
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Speaker 3: Shouldn't say I to him right now. I haven't mess
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Speaker 3: with him right now. So now he is I think
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Speaker 3: in that regard here in a healthy way. And but
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Speaker 3: now he's he's uh, he's like grown into the head
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Speaker 3: coaching role and just like blossom really and he just
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Speaker 3: he is who he is, and that's the coolest thing
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Speaker 3: about him. He doesn't have to pretend to be anyone
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Speaker 3: else or you know, everyone, He like Garners the respect
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Speaker 3: of a room right away, and that's just he is.
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Speaker 1: And he played for over a decade bro attitude like
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Speaker 1: he's got all the metal in the world. Speaking of that,
13:44
Speaker 1: like you also got you know, Aaron Glenn my dog
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Speaker 1: as a d C. And you know, how's he so
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Speaker 1: effective in helping players, you know, reach their full potential?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's kind of like I said that.
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Speaker 3: You know, in twenty twenty one, we didn't really have
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Speaker 3: you know that, I would say necessarily the talent to
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Speaker 3: really you know, compete, you know, at a high level,
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Speaker 3: and you know that's.
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Speaker 2: Just the fact of the matter.
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Speaker 3: And a g I feel like the best thing that
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Speaker 3: he does is putting his players in position to succeed.
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Speaker 2: No matter you know, how good or how bad.
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Speaker 3: Like even this past these past few games, we've had
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Speaker 3: guys at the DM position after Hutch got hurt, you know,
14:22
Speaker 3: having to step up, and then whether that's manufacturing pressures
14:24
Speaker 3: and things of that nature, it's it's pretty impressive.
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Speaker 2: And you know he's grown as a coordinator.
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Speaker 3: But the best thing about him, though is I think
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Speaker 3: he's just a good leader. And I feel like he
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Speaker 3: just has that orror about him too that you know,
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Speaker 3: similar to Dan.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about Brow. How is it Alex Angeloni the leader?
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Speaker 2: Bro?
14:44
Speaker 1: Like, how do you think you lead? Bro?
14:48
Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 3: I mean that's funny, like because Mark, when Marcus signed here,
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Speaker 3: he's like, you know, it's different seeing Alex in this role,
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Speaker 3: you know, which I understand, just be because you know,
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Speaker 3: I was a young puff in New Orleans and I
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Speaker 3: feel like the only way you could really lead as
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Speaker 3: a young player in New Orleans is by example, because
15:08
Speaker 3: you know, the vocal leaders were there.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I just lead by example, do
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Speaker 2: my thing. But then you know, we've got to keep
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Speaker 2: accountability in my teammates. And you know, I've kind of
15:19
Speaker 2: learned different you know, styles along the way.
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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, even your leadership style just
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Speaker 3: you know, I feel like you're not afraid to say
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Speaker 3: what you think.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you have relationship with everyone.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not necessarily like the raw raw leader,
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Speaker 3: you know, like some people are.
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Speaker 2: And that's just kind of kind of how I am.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're able to relate, and that's the greatest
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Speaker 1: thing ever, bro, Yeah, being being on that level, like hey, bro,
15:42
Speaker 1: let me talk to you real quick, and so you
15:43
Speaker 1: get guys out of there, you know, get out of their.
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Speaker 3: Sensitive Yeah, And that's the thing is like you have
15:49
Speaker 3: to have that relationship or else. You know.
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Speaker 2: It's just like damn, this dude thick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude is literally just so he's like he's always
15:59
Speaker 1: have to be bro Like if you don't have relationship
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Speaker 1: with him, Like, bro, like you you're not my dad,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 3: Like the facts, especially especially with the young players nowadays.
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Speaker 1: Hey, these twenty twenty kids is different.
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Speaker 2: Now different and they have money sensitive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, league sensitive. They got to be coddled. Like it's weird, bro,
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Speaker 1: stay tuned, We'll be right back. I read somewhere you
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Speaker 1: were the NFL's most underappreciated players, like one of the
16:28
Speaker 1: one of the most unappreciated players in the league. You know,
16:31
Speaker 1: your teammate Aleen McNeil had called you like the lebron
16:34
Speaker 1: of the Lion's defense, you know what I'm saying, Like
16:38
Speaker 1: you have to calling them things now, Hey, yeah, others.
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Speaker 3: I know it's funny and I'm like in your eight
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Speaker 3: and I'm like the old the old guy on the team,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I was like, this
16:50
Speaker 3: is not how it was like in New Orleans.
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Speaker 2: Your eight was like the median age. But no, yeah,
16:56
Speaker 2: I feel you know, that's a compliment. You know. I
16:58
Speaker 2: think he just means it in a in a way
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Speaker 2: if I just tried, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, that's just my role, you know, yeah, just kind
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Speaker 3: of who I am. I kind of help do the
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Speaker 3: math out on the field and you know, figure get
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Speaker 3: us out of certain situations and you know, just kind
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Speaker 3: of with.
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Speaker 1: The athletic ability meets meets the actual knowledge the experience
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Speaker 1: and knowledge combined in something like that, I can help you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, something like that. Right.
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Speaker 1: Hey, so do you guys, what do you guys do
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Speaker 1: as a defense You guys do defense dinner?
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Speaker 2: We don't. We don't thought, we don't do a defensive dinner.
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Speaker 2: I know I didn't.
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Speaker 3: I didn't bring the tradition. I think we did a
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Speaker 3: little bit in twenty twenty one, but it.
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Speaker 2: Kind of just fell off.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, no, nothing, I know we do like the
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Speaker 3: wings on Kirby has been bringing wings in on Thursdays
17:47
Speaker 3: or something like that Thursday.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just some little.
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Speaker 1: Little watch watch the defense as a team.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we're a tight knit group, honest slaves. And
17:56
Speaker 2: that's kind of natural. It kind of like happened organically.
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Speaker 1: Mmm, I'm back, don't do don't do any dinners. You don't.
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Speaker 1: You don't have him over at the at the Angeloni.
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Speaker 3: House, b crib and everyone everyone's like married people are
18:08
Speaker 3: having kids left and right.
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's.
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Speaker 1: Hmm, I'm literally going to be late for my defensive
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Speaker 1: line dinner today. I'm like, I'm like, you know, it
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Speaker 1: is what it's.
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Speaker 2: Where are you going? Uh?
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Speaker 1: Walk on? Walk on? It's just to watch watch the game,
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Speaker 1: you know, watch the game or two just again, just.
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Speaker 2: Make sure hang out, like make sure the spirits are high.
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Speaker 1: Make make sure the spirits are high. Hangout. We switch
18:35
Speaker 1: from like so we now we do defense dinners every
18:37
Speaker 1: every other Thursday, and then we do like position groups
18:42
Speaker 1: every other something after that night. So the D Line
18:45
Speaker 1: this year wanted to go on Mondays. So now like
18:47
Speaker 1: we can actually fully relaxed because second exactly, it makes
18:53
Speaker 1: a little bit more sense now not like it's actually
18:55
Speaker 1: like full relax. How are you like, you know, what
18:57
Speaker 1: was this game? Like? Now I can talk about like,
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Speaker 1: hey we mess up this D Line game? Are you good?
19:03
Speaker 1: Or like you know, like, hey, let's keep going whatever
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Speaker 1: it takes, let's keep going. It's a little bit more chill.
19:07
Speaker 1: I sort of like a Monday switch up.
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Speaker 2: Monday. Monday is a good night for that, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Monday football. You got basketball games now series happening. Yeah, yeah,
19:20
Speaker 1: a lokey, lokey upset. We was out and we played
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Speaker 1: the played the Chargers and Dodgers World.
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Speaker 2: Series in l A. Yes, when you hit the walk off.
19:32
Speaker 1: And we're two and we're two and five, and I'm like,
19:34
Speaker 1: I can't do it like this. Oh if we're six
19:38
Speaker 1: and one, I'm sitting right there right walk off home run,
19:45
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on my I'm on my iPad watching film.
19:47
Speaker 1: Bro just all my Microsoft surface whatever whatever it is.
19:51
Speaker 1: I'm watching film. Like now, we got to find a
19:53
Speaker 1: way to get a win. But shoot, all right, brouh
19:56
Speaker 1: we got we got hallows Eve coming on? Do you
19:59
Speaker 1: celebrate hollow like I've seen that family fits.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, we got some little family family fits.
20:06
Speaker 3: My dog, my son Coop, has a.
20:08
Speaker 2: Little school Halloween parraide. He's gonna be a.
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Speaker 3: Ghost, just classic. We're more we're just doing the traditional
20:14
Speaker 3: stuff right now. And as they get older, they'll they'll
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Speaker 3: choose what they want to be.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, they'll choose that they want to be. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: most I've ever heard in.
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Speaker 2: Costume in costume.
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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So he's going as a ghost and
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Speaker 1: you guys are.
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Speaker 3: Going as what well, okay, so school pary ghosts Halloween
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Speaker 3: Thursday night.
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to be a family of bats.
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Speaker 2: Really really, I didn't choose it. I didn't choose it.
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Speaker 1: You never do.
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Speaker 2: And I voiced my opinion.
20:54
Speaker 1: I was trying to go for Power Rangers. I was like,
20:57
Speaker 1: I want to be the White Rage you say. In fact,
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Speaker 1: my daughter nixed it. Bro, look at these johnts like
21:03
Speaker 1: these so an old oh to the Power Rangers. You
21:08
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, I was like, I want
21:10
Speaker 1: to be White Ranger and I'm gonna get some shoes done.
21:12
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to clean some So my daughter was like, yeah,
21:15
Speaker 1: so we're going We're going this Princess and the Frog
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be Tiana. So daddy and you could
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Speaker 1: you could be Prince Navin. And I was like, I
21:20
Speaker 1: ain't know. I was like, no, no, no, I'm a
21:23
Speaker 1: village no shadow shadow Man, Yeah yeah shadow Man. So
21:28
Speaker 1: I got, you know, chopped off all the face.
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Speaker 2: Of hair a weekend there you go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So you know, some people are happy with
21:36
Speaker 1: it in the house. Some people aren't. Uh my daughter
21:39
Speaker 1: deemed uh my wife Nikki, uh Mama Odie. She's like,
21:44
Speaker 1: she's like, your mama Odi. I was like, I was like, damn, baby,
21:49
Speaker 1: I don't know what she's trying to tell you. She's like, yeah, yeah, mom,
21:55
Speaker 1: you're old and so your mama od I.
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Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, yeah, that's tough.
22:01
Speaker 1: You got to get you a girl. Bro, Like, my
22:03
Speaker 1: daughter loves me.
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Speaker 2: So we have so I thought you just had cool. No,
22:08
Speaker 2: so cool. And then we had Carter and last she's
22:14
Speaker 2: about to be a year old. And November twenty ninth,
22:16
Speaker 2: well we got yeah related out.
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Speaker 1: Oh double dad duties. Yeah okay, so you know bro,
22:23
Speaker 1: and like in two years she will love you unconditionally
22:27
Speaker 1: like you think you think your wife loves you, nor
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Speaker 1: your daughter is gonna be like yeah, so where are
22:32
Speaker 1: we going? No? No, baby, I'm getting in the car. No, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you have to stay.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 1: Any any any girl after that just hit or miss
22:43
Speaker 1: the first who love me? And my third one is
22:45
Speaker 1: I think she's annoyed with me at all time. She's
22:47
Speaker 1: just like she looks at me. She's like, so you
22:50
Speaker 1: brought home bacon, right, all right, get out of here.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I may just be the young youngest child.
22:58
Speaker 2: Could just be that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be trying to so the love. I'm like, yeah, baby,
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Speaker 1: come on me, you gonna have a date. I want mommy.
23:04
Speaker 2: Damn yeah, I don't.
23:05
Speaker 1: I don't know this feeling, I said, what is what
23:07
Speaker 1: is it? This projection? Wait? Housekeeping up?
23:12
Speaker 2: He's three, okay, three.
23:14
Speaker 1: Walking talking, got some got some attitude, will tell you no, Okay,
23:18
Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 2: Thinking about it. I was like him and uh, if
23:21
Speaker 2: him in Tank were the same age, they probably be
23:24
Speaker 2: getting along. Get along. Well put it that way, manly men.
23:28
Speaker 1: Just yeah, hey, walking around trying to wrestle any and everybody.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like every day at school, like, uh, it's physical
23:36
Speaker 3: again today.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm trying to tell you.
23:41
Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry, but he just really likes he likes
23:44
Speaker 1: his friends.
23:44
Speaker 2: He just wants to exactly exactly. It's his love language.
23:48
Speaker 1: That's his love language, bro. You know, like, it's not
23:50
Speaker 1: it's not him, it's me. I did it. I'm sorry,
23:53
Speaker 1: right before he goes to bed. There's definitely WrestleMania going
23:56
Speaker 1: on at all times.
23:57
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, doing flips and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Man, Hey, I love that you're a leader, bro. I
24:03
Speaker 1: love that you came on the pod blest Us with
24:05
Speaker 1: some wisdom. Hey. You know, go be a dad, bro,
24:08
Speaker 1: go be a husband.
24:10
Speaker 2: You know, appreciate your camp.
24:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, brother, Hey, I mean my dog alexand Seloni has
24:24
Speaker 1: come a long way from University of Florida product to now,
24:28
Speaker 1: you know, being drafted to the Northern Saints to being
24:32
Speaker 1: a captain, a leader, if you will, a leader of men,
24:36
Speaker 1: if you so shall over at the Detroit Lions where
24:38
Speaker 1: they're sitting at the top of the division. Uh. Super
24:42
Speaker 1: happy for him, man, I mean, I know what it's
24:45
Speaker 1: like to have great success in the league. I'm in
24:48
Speaker 1: an unfamiliar territory with not having great success. Uh, mentoring
24:54
Speaker 1: young guys, being just you know, after starting off hot
24:57
Speaker 1: two and oh to two and six, you know, frustrated,
25:01
Speaker 1: maybe not getting you know, the edge pass rushes yet
25:04
Speaker 1: that I'm accustomed to. But you knowing that, uh, you know,
25:08
Speaker 1: you have to trust the organization, trust that we have
25:10
Speaker 1: a path. Again, there's ten weeks left, nine games left.
25:14
Speaker 1: We could easily best case scenario eleven and six. I'm
25:17
Speaker 1: always gonna rock with my Saints and have the highest
25:20
Speaker 1: of hopes. After a lost Sunday, it does hurt, It
25:24
Speaker 1: stings it again. I don't know, I've never really been
25:26
Speaker 1: here so irritated, irked. Message to the fans, man, like,
25:31
Speaker 1: just rock with us, you know we need we need
25:34
Speaker 1: all the energy, all the positive vibes. I had old lady,
25:38
Speaker 1: older lady yesterday come up to me randomly at the
25:43
Speaker 1: at the store, and she was like, look, you don't
25:45
Speaker 1: know what it's like to be here when when of
25:47
Speaker 1: the good they were the aints wearing paper bags. We're
25:49
Speaker 1: not there yet. And I said we're not there yet.
25:51
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, there's She's like, we can still come out,
25:54
Speaker 1: we could get it done. I but fully, I say,
25:56
Speaker 1: you know what, shout out to that to that older lady,
26:00
Speaker 1: you know, like shout out to a breadth of positivity.
26:03
Speaker 1: We're talking about at a school at a school visit,
26:06
Speaker 1: kids were like, hey, we can still, we can still
26:08
Speaker 1: do this. You know what the New York Giants did.
26:10
Speaker 1: And there was a year when the New Giants barely
26:12
Speaker 1: broke more than just even. And we've got plenty of
26:15
Speaker 1: time to correct the ship. Now. When I said plenty
26:18
Speaker 1: of time, it's about two to three week window here.
26:20
Speaker 1: So rock with us. You know, when we come back
26:23
Speaker 1: home after this Carolina game, we're gonna need all that energy.
26:26
Speaker 1: We're gonna need all the vibes we're gonna get. We're
26:29
Speaker 1: gonna get back right. We got to be able to
26:32
Speaker 1: get ourselves right. There's enough people in this building. Think
26:34
Speaker 1: about how many guys are coming back healthy er each
26:37
Speaker 1: and every week, which is a crazy thing. To say,
26:39
Speaker 1: in this league, we just got to come back healthy
26:41
Speaker 1: and all the same mindset. We have to dominate, which
26:46
Speaker 1: you know, just thinking about the game, I'm also thinking
26:49
Speaker 1: about uh, somebody like you know, somebody media whatever it
26:54
Speaker 1: was portraying my guy, Uh, Nathan Shepherd. It was like
26:59
Speaker 1: some lovenly offensive lineman from the Chargers. He had said
27:04
Speaker 1: that he had never seen. You know, it was the
27:07
Speaker 1: dirtiest play he's ever seen from a d tackle who
27:11
Speaker 1: had won, who had just won on the guy he
27:13
Speaker 1: got beat, and then because he got beat, his quarterback
27:16
Speaker 1: got hit. Nathan Shepherd is trying to get Justin Herbert,
27:20
Speaker 1: who's a bigger guy who can take a hit, get
27:23
Speaker 1: him down. Falls, you know, hits him somewhere in like
27:26
Speaker 1: the mid the mid rift area. You know, you feel
27:29
Speaker 1: like abdomen's stomach whatever. It was an initial legal hit.
27:34
Speaker 1: Falls falls through the fighting of Justin Herbert, who like
27:38
Speaker 1: underhand pitches the ball to running back. My guy, Nathan
27:42
Speaker 1: Shepherd had no idea. His head is turned towards the
27:45
Speaker 1: end zone, so all he knows he has a quarterback
27:48
Speaker 1: is clutches. He's trying to get him down and the
27:49
Speaker 1: guy is still fighting him. So he activates a gator role,
27:53
Speaker 1: which have you done that? Initially I think it's not
27:57
Speaker 1: a play that you even talk about, but because there's
28:00
Speaker 1: some sort of internal conflict fight there this oh that's
28:04
Speaker 1: the guy's name is Bozeman. Yeah, there we go from
28:07
Speaker 1: the Chargers, jumps on Nathan Shepherd after the play, like
28:12
Speaker 1: mashes him on the ground, pokes my guy, Nate Shepherd's eye,
28:15
Speaker 1: and then has the audacity to say, well, you know,
28:18
Speaker 1: it's one of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen. And
28:22
Speaker 1: I'm like, you play football, you know what a dirty
28:24
Speaker 1: play is. Dirty plays? You know, multiple plays later after
28:27
Speaker 1: the whistles blown, you still trying to like clear the top,
28:30
Speaker 1: you know, like that's a dirty play. A dirty play
28:33
Speaker 1: is like, hey, the quarterback obviously doesn't have the ball
28:36
Speaker 1: and it's probably like headed towards the sideline and you
28:38
Speaker 1: meet him after the white You know that's not it's
28:41
Speaker 1: it's a play that you probably prefer not to have.
28:45
Speaker 1: But honestly, you know, with how it started, dirtyest play,
28:50
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Where As we as we think the game,
28:55
Speaker 1: everything that entailed, how you start off hot two and six,
28:58
Speaker 1: I keep saying this two and six, so this hurts,
29:01
Speaker 1: you know, just you see the season at this point
29:05
Speaker 1: as surprising because you start off to and oh, dropping
29:08
Speaker 1: forty points a game for the first two games, and
29:10
Speaker 1: then to be struggling sometimes you know, get it together.
29:15
Speaker 1: You know, you see offense show up, defense show up,
29:18
Speaker 1: special teams show up, and then all of a sudden
29:20
Speaker 1: there's glaring inefficiencies at defense and offense. It's then even
29:26
Speaker 1: you know, I think special teams have been damn good job.
29:28
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna ride for that one for sure.
29:31
Speaker 1: I think that there's a chance that we get this
29:35
Speaker 1: thing right. There's been players meetings, there's been captains meetings.
29:39
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody wants to be in a better place
29:43
Speaker 1: and that's what we're fighting for. So going to the Panthers,
29:47
Speaker 1: the score of the last time we put on them
29:49
Speaker 1: forty seven to ten, that doesn't mean anything going in
29:52
Speaker 1: this week. All that matters is we find a way
29:54
Speaker 1: to get back to the win column. Confidence has to
29:57
Speaker 1: be boosted, whether that's you know, possible dare Car comes back,
30:00
Speaker 1: whether that's you know, another office a lineman comes back,
30:04
Speaker 1: whether that's you know, another dB comes back healthier, whatever
30:07
Speaker 1: it is, you know, if we say, hey, our best eleven.
30:09
Speaker 1: I take my best eleven win healthy versus anybody, And
30:11
Speaker 1: I still say that we have to get healthy, we
30:13
Speaker 1: have to get right, We have to be able to
30:15
Speaker 1: be on top of our assignments. You know, we got
30:17
Speaker 1: Pete Warner let back last week and that was huge
30:20
Speaker 1: for the defense. You know, the way he's able to
30:23
Speaker 1: go latter side aside underpreciated a lot like Alex Adelonia
30:27
Speaker 1: in his defense. So it's just, you know, we have
30:30
Speaker 1: to be better. It's not like you got guys giving up.
30:33
Speaker 1: It's not like that you you've got you see defeat
30:35
Speaker 1: in their eyes. Guys want to win. Talking about guys
30:38
Speaker 1: giving up or even typing out. Just a quick pivot
30:42
Speaker 1: around and looking around the league. This new page, bro like,
30:45
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say it's all guys born
30:47
Speaker 1: in you know, these two thousands, with these two thousands kids,
30:50
Speaker 1: is a little bit different. You know, I say, I
30:52
Speaker 1: see a couple of burking bags being carried by athletes.
30:55
Speaker 1: Now I see a couple couple of guys who whatever,
30:59
Speaker 1: we won't even we wan't just cuss it, but just
31:01
Speaker 1: know these thousand.
31:03
Speaker 2: Kids, it's a little different.
31:04
Speaker 1: Late nineties it's a different time.
31:07
Speaker 2: Uh.
31:08
Speaker 1: You know, I if guys are tired, I've seen d
31:10
Speaker 1: lyman who are tired, you know, maybe like tap out,
31:12
Speaker 1: cross her feet, Hey, give me out for a reper two.
31:16
Speaker 2: Uh.
31:17
Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone openly admit maybe it's like I said,
31:21
Speaker 1: it's the times of change, and openly admit that they
31:24
Speaker 1: were gassed or exhausted as to be you know, like
31:28
Speaker 1: an like an athlete, athlete for so long. You saw
31:32
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson, I just saw a pressure clip of like, hey,
31:37
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was said he was tired, and so he
31:40
Speaker 1: tapped himself out as a starting quarterback. I don't know
31:42
Speaker 1: if that's even allowed. I mean, clearly the Colts probably
31:45
Speaker 1: feel some type of way about it, since they're sending
31:47
Speaker 1: a clear message starting Joe Flacco this Sunday. I mean,
31:51
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those times. So you're a you're
31:53
Speaker 1: a high draft pick, you were sort of hurt last year.
31:56
Speaker 1: You've got a lot to prove. And I think Anthony
31:59
Speaker 1: Richardson has all the talent in the world. I think,
32:02
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't think a lot of guys
32:04
Speaker 1: when it comes down to talent, but mental fortitude is
32:07
Speaker 1: part of the game as well, and so you know,
32:10
Speaker 1: for the future, just stay tough, you know, train your
32:13
Speaker 1: body to the point of no return in the off season.
32:15
Speaker 1: So when you're getting those uncomfortable, unfamiliar positions. The eighteen
32:19
Speaker 1: nineteen play drives the you know, Anthony Richardson esque sideline,
32:25
Speaker 1: the sideline seventy five play, seventy five yards just to
32:28
Speaker 1: have to go back to the huddle and run another play.
32:32
Speaker 1: Be ready. That's a part of the craft. That's a
32:34
Speaker 1: part of being obsessive with the craft. It irks me
32:37
Speaker 1: sometimes have you been on you know, my own team
32:41
Speaker 1: or defense, and I'm like, how are you tired after
32:42
Speaker 1: two or three plays? Like you had an off season?
32:45
Speaker 1: How are your feet crossed? How are your hands on
32:47
Speaker 1: your hips? Like, yo, you're sending a message. I was
32:51
Speaker 1: told early on in my career. Everybody's telling a story.
32:55
Speaker 1: Are you reading the right page? Are you.
32:59
Speaker 2: Like?
32:59
Speaker 1: What do you presented to the world. So that's why
33:02
Speaker 1: I've always believed that, you know, this idea is like
33:04
Speaker 1: no fear, like this is the last warrior mindset. Because
33:08
Speaker 1: I love to see when somebody has that, oh I'm
33:10
Speaker 1: hurting you hit a tight end you hit a tight
33:13
Speaker 1: end and next thing, you know, like that tight end,
33:15
Speaker 1: it sees you and he's like avoid avoiding gaze. You
33:17
Speaker 1: get that, Mike Tyson feel like I'm looking at him,
33:19
Speaker 1: staring at him. The first time he looks away, he
33:22
Speaker 1: broke it. Like That's the type of game that I
33:24
Speaker 1: love and I love to play that way. You bring
33:26
Speaker 1: your hands to work every day to choke a person
33:30
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of you, out to break his mind,
33:35
Speaker 1: body and will, and then you have your way. But
33:38
Speaker 1: you know, that's just the older school version that I've
33:41
Speaker 1: always enjoyed playing the football that I love, the one
33:44
Speaker 1: that you don't catch, you know, flags for targeting, the
33:46
Speaker 1: ones you don't worry about. You know, was that you
33:49
Speaker 1: know where your hand position was on a quarterback, like
33:52
Speaker 1: whatever that is. I just love that good old like
33:54
Speaker 1: hit him in the mount type football, you know, Marshall Lynch,
33:58
Speaker 1: Hit him again, hit him again, hit him again until
34:00
Speaker 1: you don't want no more. But anyways, that's uh I
34:04
Speaker 1: come from. Apparently, you know a different time. I grew
34:08
Speaker 1: up watching Chris Domans. You know, I grew up watching
34:11
Speaker 1: Keith Millard. You know, I grew up watching like wanting
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Speaker 1: to be like Jawn Curse, Warren Sapp, Mike Strahand even
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Speaker 1: at the you know, at the tell end of it.
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Speaker 1: I love the guys like Bruce Smith, the monsters of
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Speaker 1: just so many monsters of the game that that's how
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