Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Press Pass | Anthony Campanile on Violent at the Point of Attack and Playing in a Tough Physical Scheme

Transcript

Press Pass | Anthony Campanile on Violent at the Point of Attack and Playing in a Tough Physical Scheme · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: So just talk a little bit about just your excitement
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: for this opportunity and what you see from this defense.
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: Which you know, quite frankly, really had a lot of
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: troubles last year.
• 0:13
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I'm I couldn't be more excited about
• 0:16
  Speaker 3: this opportunity really to work with these guys. Just looking
• 0:20
  Speaker 3: at the players, you know, looking at the roster. That
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: probably be the most exciting part of it for me,
• 0:26
  Speaker 3: you know, getting to know some of the guys being
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: in here.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: It's been awesome. So pretty fired up about it.
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: Obviously, the opportunity to work here, work with Liam. I'm
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: just I'm mamped up. You know, I'm mamped up in
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: every which way.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: Why do you want to work you know, I think
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: that's a good question.
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: Both Northeast guys, you know, but we've known each other
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: for for quite a bit, you know, working the camps
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: circuits over the years in college. But really just his energy,
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: you know what, what what I got from talking to him? Uh,
• 1:04
  Speaker 3: he's just he's the right type of guy, you know,
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: his vision, his toughness.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I'm really really fired up about that. What's your vision
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: for the defense in terms.
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: Of just in terms of yeah, I think the most
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: important thing you talk about when you talk about defense
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: is your play style. You know, my vision for us defensively,
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: we want to be a tough, fast, physical, violent at
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: the point of attack team.
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: What does that mean? All right?
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: That means that you got guys who take pride and
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: not getting blocked.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: Everybody talks about running to the ball.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's another person in the world who
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: believes in running to the ball more than I do.
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: But you can't run to the ball if you don't
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: get all blocks. And that is something that's going to
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: be celebrated in our room. It's gonna be celebrated in
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: the culture of our team. You know, there's gonna be
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: a you know, there's a point in every play where
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: somebody tries to block you, right.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: Your passion to not stay blocked is really what makes
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: plays on defense, you know. Uh, coaching scheme, all that
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: stuff that's great, like really important, But at the end
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: of the day, the players win the game, you know,
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: and the violence at the point of attack. Uh, the
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: effort to strain and the finish that it takes to
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: not stay blocked and run to the football, that's.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: What really creates a great defense.
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: We want guys that are gonna play with their shoulder square,
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: you know, be able to read everybody's number and name,
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: tag every play and attack contact, never turn it down.
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: Those are tenants of a great defense, you know. Those
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: are tenants all the great defenses in the history of football,
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: and the great defenses I've ever been around, but we had,
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: you know, when I watched that on the tape, when
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: I watched the guys here, I see a lot of that.
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: I see great effort, great strain, you know, and meeting
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: these guys, we got a lot of great people in here.
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to coach. And like you know, you just
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: asked about Liam. You know, he's about the same things.
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: You know, he wants strained, he wants an effort, and
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: you know that's the environment I want to be in
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: every day, and I know we can succeed in hopefully
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: answer your question, well, how far are.
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: You in the roster evaluation process.
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: That we're all just kind of going through that right now,
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: you know, all our coaches letting everybody go through through everything.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: You know, Positionally I've been able to watch a lot
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: of guys myself, but obviously with hiring the staff and
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: evaluating the players right now still, I would say, you know,
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: relatively on the front end of it, in all fairness,
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: and we're kind of collaborating a meeting on that as
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: a defensive staff right now as well.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: You know, you have to be done with that full
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: evaluation before you go to the.
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: Combine or now. Uh yeah, i'd like to be.
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're close to that, you know,
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: And obviously there's a lot coming up down or coming
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: down to pipe right, free agents and obviously the draft
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: with the combine coming up.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: So guys are working hard.
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: You know, they're in here honestly, they're in here early
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: and we're grinding until late night.
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: And I know I am trying to.
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: Make sure we put the best group of guys together
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: and obviously do the best job in our evaluations.
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: How much take would you say you watched so far
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: from last year?
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: I watched a fair amount.
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: I watched quite a bit of it, to be honest
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: with you, And I have a lot of respect for
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: the guys who coached here and the guys who played
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: here last year, because I see strain, I do, I
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: see effort.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: I know maybe there wasn't the result that everybody wanted.
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: All the time, but I knew and coming here there
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: was a lot of guys that I did or was
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: excited with the opportunity to coach specifically.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Who I'm pursuing the past rushers, cornerback, sure.
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, absolutely there's guys, and then you know, at linebacker,
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: I would say I've evaluated a lot of these guys,
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: probably know them a little bit better because you evaluated
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: pretty closely going into the draft every year, you know,
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: and that was my position. So there's really a bunch
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: of guys. I'm pretty familiar with the way they play
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: their play style as college players. And then you know,
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: you usually keep up with guys in the NFL and
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: you see guys in crossover tape. But absolutely we got
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: some pass rushers, we have some interior dlignement, we have
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: some toughness, and linebacker, we got some guys in the.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: Back end that I've been really impressed with the tape
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: that you watched. What would you say was the biggest issues.
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: It's simply a matter of just not winning enough one
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: on one battles.
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I've gotten lesson to that in terms
• 5:31
  Speaker 3: of like schematics. You know, we're kind of like moving
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: forward on that and just looking at everybody plugs into
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: what we want to do moving forward. So I've probably
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: spent less time on, you know, what all the issues are,
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: and more time on evaluating the players and their their
• 5:49
  Speaker 3: play style, their playability, to be honest with you, because
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: that to me is like the most important thing for
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: us right now that we know our players and then
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: we know our roster.
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: How many decisions do he makes wise now as opposed
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: to maybe the offseason when you get really get hands
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: on the guys on the field.
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think where you look at whenever you come
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: into a place, you know, a new environment like that
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: kind of happened in Green Bay last year. To be
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: honest with it, for me, right, I was in Miami
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: for a bunch of years and went there and as
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: Jeff and I were kind of ripping it down to
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: the studs and our defensive stabblished building it from the
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: ground up. You always evaluate what's in the building, you
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, what do the guys do well
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: and how does that.
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: Fit into our scheme?
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: And I think great coaches always have the ability to
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: be malleable with the scheme to fit what the players
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: do best. So yeah, that's part of it, and then
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: as you go for sure, like as your roster changes,
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes that affords you the opportunity to do
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit more stuff or less. What if the
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: defense doesn't get turnovers for the reasons for that, I
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: think one of the I could probably answer it better
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: by saying the reason in my opinion.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: For turnovers, I think a lot of that comes from
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: vision on the ball.
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: If you look at a statistics over the years in
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: the NFL, a lot of takeaways occur with vision on
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: the ball. I think like some of those happen in
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, you know, some like you just think
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: about some of the playoff games and the games that
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: you've watched most recently. When you have vision on the ball,
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to create or better opportunity to
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: create takeaways.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: I also think that the guys that have great ball.
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: Awareness and the guys that strain that as a team,
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: you know, the units that really strain that.
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: It's you go back and look at it.
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: How many attempts are you making on the ball, whether
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: that's punching the ball right, whether that's violent contact on
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: the ball, how I'm clamping on a tackle. All those
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: things can factor in to takeaways, and to me, you
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: have to do a really really good job studying that
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: and presenting that information visually to the players, get as
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: many great visuals for them, knowing how people carry the ball, right,
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: Is a guy late to the tuck after he catches
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: the ball. Does he carry the ball on his inside
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: arm near sideline? Is the guy switches the ball in traffic?
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: Is the ball off his body? Is he an elbowl outrunner?
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: Those are the guys that you want to target, and
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: you want to target.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: The specific ways.
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: So me that so to me, uh, there is a
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: little bit of a I don't want to say a
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: science to that, but certainly a technique and a coaching
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: philosophy to that. Absolutely, you know, and I think every
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: drill you do. You know, like we've talked about this.
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: As a defensive staff, I don't want any drills that
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: don't end without a tackle or a takeaway or an
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: attempt at a take away. I don't because every play
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: is going to end that way, you know, That's what
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: we're shooting for or shooting for, you know, violent finish
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: on a tackle, uh, violently trying to separate somebody from
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: the ball when the ball's in the air or violently
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: trying to take the ball away at the point of attack.
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: So we need to be drilling that every day, you know,
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: And that's on me to make sure we are being
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: with a coach.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Berkin's a great band last year. What was it about
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: him that you know, manport for him to be on
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: the staff with him?
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a great perks got it. You guys
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: will meet him. He's got a great disposition. He's just
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: super easy to talk to, great communicator. He's a really
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: really good teacher. And the dude is just like a
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: tireless worker. I don't know if he sleeps, so he's
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: he might be a vampire, but he works like he
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: works like an animal. So I just I have like
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: such a deep respect for that, you know. And those
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: are the guys like I always kind of gravitate to,
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: you know. I love the guys that like do more,
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: find a way and just super detailed, like really clear, concise,
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: direct and easy to talk to.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: So the players really, you know, got.
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: Along with him really really well, and they were able
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: to learn from him because he presents the information in
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: a way that is easy to learn.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: From your perspective, out board can a guy like Eric
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Rmstead being with a new staff, just his leadership off
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: the field, that kind of stuff.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you look at you know him
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: and winning the Man of the Year award and all that.
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: He speaks to the character of him, you know, the
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: type of guy he is. I've gotten a chance to
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: talk to Eric, so been awesome and been around a
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: bunch of guys who have coached him too, which is cool.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: But he's Yeah, absolutely, you know, the leadership qualities that's
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: super you know, that excites you, keeps you super excited
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: about that. But also you know, watching the guy play
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: over the years, he's got a great play style, big
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: explosive guy, and he's had a ton of success in his.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Career because of that. So excited to coach him, without
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: a doubt. One of the guys. I'm definitely excited about
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: him as a defensive tackle.
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I think for the majority of his career
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: he's had so much success doing that.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a guy that's obviously, as you've seen last.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: Year, was able to move around a little bit, you know,
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: so he's got some multiplicity to his skill set. But
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: he's just a problem honestly, wherever he is. You know,
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: you watch him there as he lines up on a
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: tight end that's not a great matchup. He lines up
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: on a guard, that's a tough matchup. So it's good
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: to have guys that are that are a matchup problem.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: And he's had so much productivity inside over his career. Tough.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Is it to said, I guess the tone or the
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: mentality that you want to build for this defense. I
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: mean from maybe scratches.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: It stuff through the off season. Is it bringing in
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: the right.
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: Kind of guys?
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: What is it? That's a great question.
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: I think that's just your effort and enthusiasm you come
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: into building with every day, you know what I mean,
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: Like me.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: Personally, the coaches, the players.
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: It's making sure that our mindset is right every day
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: and we're on it every day. It's not something you
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: could talk about though, you know what I mean, Like
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: your meeting's got to be that way, the practice has
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: got to be that way.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Individuals got to be that way.
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: Everything you want to go through with a fine toothed
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: comb with the intention of getting guys better. You know
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like everything you do is about getting
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: guys better. Everything we do has to have a purpose, right,
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: So like that's how we walk through.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: We walk through with detail.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: We're all just kind of like swintering in there and
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: you know, milling around.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: That can't be the case.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: It's got to be done with detail and everything that
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: we do individually with these guys every you know, look, we.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Film the individual for a reason, right, You film the
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: drills for a reason.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: You're watching those every day trying to pick up little
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: things that can help the guys play better, improve their
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: technique so they can go out on a Sunday and produce.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: But that that environment, Yeah, it's got to be about strain, uh,
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: in everything we do.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, every coordinator.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: Has kind of like different levels of flexibility when it
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: comes to game plans on a week by week faces.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Since this is your first foray into.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: This, how flexible do you think you will be as
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: things move along, whether it's with players suggestions, coach suggestions,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: things like that that might be different from what you
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: had intended to do.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have to be flexible. I think
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: I've been really fortunate being a lot of systems. Defensively,
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: I've been with some guys who, you know, one of
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: their ger some of their best qualities are their flexibility
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: and the system's flexibility, meaning that I think a lot
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: of people get into the hair.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Ye three four, you're four to three or four to
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: two five. What do you guys do on defense?
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: I think when you look at all the teams, even
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: the three four teams, they play a bunch of four down.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: So like, if you're looking at that, you'd be aware
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: of that and you see that there's flexibility within everybody's scheme.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: Sometimes the offenses personnel grouping forces you to be flexible, right,
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: and then defensively, how do you make it hard on them?
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: Do you play different groupings to those personnels, maybe some
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: stuff that they're not expecting and playing to the strengths
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: of your defense. So like even in Green Bay last year,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: we played, you know, a bunch of four down. We
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: played a lot of three down spacing with four down people,
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: you know, because we felt that gave us a better
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: answer versus some of the things that we were seeing
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: and let us be pretty flexible. So I think in
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: this league you have to be able to adjust, like
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: in the game. In the game, you have to be
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: able to adjust to me, you know. I think Brian
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: Floor as I would say the guy worked for I
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: thought he did a great job, you know, of making
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: sure everybody was seeing it that way. You know that
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: in the game the information is so valuable and from
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: drive to drive we all have to be in great
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: communication with each other to get into the next best
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: call or the next you know, the next call, next
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: series that's going to help us get off the field.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean some of those guys I've learned
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: a bunch from. You know, I would say is Vic
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: Fangel is the same way, just super adaptable and you know,
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: super intelligent, great guys to be around.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: So you've worked with a variety of different coaches and defenses.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: How challenging is it for you to run the defense
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: that you desire with the personnel.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: That you have.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that challenging.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I shouldn't say that, but I have
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: a very good idea there's probably a better way to
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: say that of what I want to do and with
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: and doing that with the people we have in the building.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: You know, I think what we want to do. Part
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: of the reason why this job was appealing is I
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: think with the people in the building what I want
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: this defense to be. It's it's a pretty good match.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: It's a pretty good fit. I feel like a lot
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: of those guys fit into what we want to do
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: and they're going to have an opportunity to do it really,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: really well, you know, And to me, like that's on us,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: how hard we coach them, how well we coach them.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like we got some really good pieces in
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: place to do that, to execute the scheme you.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Prepped, So you were looking primarily at Jackson those offense.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: So did you want things about the defense that you
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: maybe didn't even recognize or you faced.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Them this year? Say that again. I'm sorry, I just
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: want to make sure i'm.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: During the regular season matchup, primarily you look at a
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Jackson those offense. Yes, you learn stuff about the defense
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: when you knew you got to take this interview that
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: maybe you weren't aware of it before.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: No, I think you know really in the preparation for
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the game obviously, Like you said, primarily with the offense,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I learned a lot about some of the personnel on offense.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: That excited me too, and the otherest with you because
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: we had to go out and defense some of those
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: guys and they're very good players, So that part of
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: it excited me also, but really more so, and you
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: watch them crossover tape and then getting ready, you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: when you start interviewing, you start that process, you really
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: start to do a deeper dive and the personnel, uh,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: and the pieces that are in the locker room that
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: you would be working with. Yeah, that's that's really really
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: where I got most of my h you know, info
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: and probably a better feel for that.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks,