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Aaron James Yager: You Need To Feel It to Heal It · Becoming

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  Speaker 1: Breath work is the most primal, scientifically approved therapy that exists.
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  Speaker 1: They are messages to us, gifts even rage, even resentment,
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  Speaker 1: even sadness, even though all those negative ones that have
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  Speaker 1: been labeled, they're all gifts for us. These are all
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  Speaker 1: data points trying to communicate too us, to guide us
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  Speaker 1: in our life.
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  Speaker 2: But we shut that down, We sweep it under the rug.
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  Speaker 2: We don't listen.
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  Speaker 1: So when we're breathing in certain ways, for example, just
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  Speaker 1: by changing the way that you breathe in and out,
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  Speaker 1: in how you release the breath and all that, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to disregulate or down regulate your system, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to breathe in shorter and out longer. You're slowing
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  Speaker 1: your nervous system down. This is all about regulating your
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  Speaker 1: state and regulating your nervous system.
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  Speaker 3: Just sometimes I ask myself, like, why did it take
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  Speaker 3: me to my forties to hear about this?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: We've got another podcast here from Fatherhood Movements. I've got
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  Speaker 3: Aaron James Jaeger. We're gonna be talking about some interesting things.
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  Speaker 3: He's been through a ton in his life with different
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  Speaker 3: businesses that we're gonna hear about awaken the Viking.
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  Speaker 2: The Noble King Collective. Is that what you called it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Noble Kings collective. Yea noble King's collective. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: But really where he and I got connected with the
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  Speaker 3: mutual friends. I learned about his breath work, I learned
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  Speaker 3: about his healing. I've learned about you know, his entrepreneurial skills.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how we've kind of bonded. So we're going
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  Speaker 3: to dive in today. But Aaron, you got you got
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  Speaker 3: to tell me more about the awakened the Viking, like
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  Speaker 3: you were just about talking about it before we hit record.
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  Speaker 3: I got to hear about this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a very passionate subject for me.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm happy to do that. First of all, Bubba,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. It is really even though we
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  Speaker 1: have had little time to connect, Like, I'm really appreciative
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  Speaker 1: of Aubrey connecting us and I just your energy is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to dell deep and go in uh,
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  Speaker 1: go in here with you. So thanks for us to
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  Speaker 1: do it. So I've got I've got I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you can see here, I've got some Viking.
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  Speaker 2: Tattoos that are going on here. These are different rooms
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  Speaker 2: I have here.
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  Speaker 1: I've got Viking Oracle cards. I'm very much. I mean
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  Speaker 1: this is like pre like the Viking TV show and
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  Speaker 1: all that. I've always enjoyed the Vikings. I've always enjoyed that.
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  Speaker 2: And so being an.
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  Speaker 1: Entrepreneur, being a transformation specialist, a high performance coach, breath
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  Speaker 1: for facilitator, all the work that I do, I had
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  Speaker 1: this download one day and it was like pre It's like,
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  Speaker 1: what was this twenty nineteen? I think I had the download.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in human designer, I'm a manifestor. I get these
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  Speaker 1: big visions down and I'm able to just go and
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  Speaker 1: do those things and make that stuff happen as an entrepreneur,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how wild and crazy they are. So the
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  Speaker 1: way I came up with Awaken the Viking, which is
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  Speaker 1: the Awaken Theeviking dot com is the website, but the
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  Speaker 1: event is called the Viking Initiation. So I really believe
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  Speaker 1: in initiations. Let's look at we're talking about fatherhood, parenthood.
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  Speaker 1: We are missing in our society the old initiations of
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  Speaker 1: boy to man, girl to woman. We don't have the elders,
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  Speaker 1: the villages, the tribes in this way that we used
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  Speaker 1: to to be able to see a boy or a
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  Speaker 1: girl step into their adulthood. Now we have different types
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  Speaker 1: of initiation. Now, it's not like it's disappeared, it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's changed so much. And I really believe in initiation
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  Speaker 1: and how we can create these containers for ourselves, even
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  Speaker 1: as adults, to step into new versions of ourselves, to
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  Speaker 1: shed the old self, to step into this new version,
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  Speaker 1: this new identity. And a lot of the unconscious work
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  Speaker 1: that I do, the hypnotherapy, the breathwork, all is about initiation.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought it would be fun to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: how do I combine all my favorite things travel, adventure,
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  Speaker 1: self development, spirituality, initiation and vikings. And I said, could
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  Speaker 1: I put together an event that would inspire people where
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  Speaker 1: people would be like, We'll be like, heck, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: want to go do this and it gets to show
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  Speaker 1: off Norway. Norway is one of my favorite countries. I
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  Speaker 1: have Norwegian blood. I have not full Norwege or anything,
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  Speaker 1: but I have a lot of Scandinavian in my DNA.
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  Speaker 1: So so I did so I literally got this download.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, well, what if I can could combine all
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  Speaker 1: these things. So I started going to Norway about a
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  Speaker 1: couple of year and a half before I actually had
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  Speaker 1: my first event to go research to find the people,
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  Speaker 1: to find unique speakers. And I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 1: but I've paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in my
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  Speaker 1: life for masterminds. Yeah, free your travel and you go
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  Speaker 1: to the mastermind, Right, It's like, good, your network is
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  Speaker 1: all cool. It's usually indoors, you got the incandescent lighting.
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  Speaker 1: Cool stage speakers come in and then they go do
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  Speaker 1: like excursions here and there. In Mexico we go do
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  Speaker 1: fishing whatever. I'm like, Okay, that's great now, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be doing the same frickin thing again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's flip it. What if we're outside more.
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  Speaker 1: What if the excursions are the thing and then we
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  Speaker 1: have limited speakers. Let's like get people out of the
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  Speaker 1: structure of their mind, out of the structure of their
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  Speaker 1: business or whatever they're in, and these are This is
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  Speaker 1: an event that's a little higher on the price point,
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  Speaker 1: especially because we're going to Norway. Yeah, we're traveling, you know, internationally.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like, how do we get people out of
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  Speaker 1: their norm and really get them in a place to
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  Speaker 1: where they can change and transform, where this is not
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  Speaker 1: a vacation. This is a transformational adventure, but we get
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  Speaker 1: to have fun the whole time. So that's the concept.
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  Speaker 1: And so in my travels they found this place called Gudvungan,
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  Speaker 1: which means the Valley of the Gods. Is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most beautiful fjords in Norway and it's a magical,
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  Speaker 1: magical place with a fairytale like waterfalls all over right
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  Speaker 1: up in the fiord where the fresh water is coming
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  Speaker 1: out into the ocean, huge huge mountains, like as you're
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  Speaker 1: traveling through, spectacular. Well, they have this Viking village there,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a there's a Viking hotel that's on the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the river, and there's a bridge that
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  Speaker 1: goes across. I'm like, this is the perfect place for
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  Speaker 1: me to do this because it's got like the decent,
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  Speaker 1: like four star hotel. But then we cross the river
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  Speaker 1: and you literally step backwards in time into a Viking
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  Speaker 1: village that they built from all the resources in that fjord.
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  Speaker 1: Took them twenty years to get this going. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's real Vikings people living the lifestyle viking of a
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  Speaker 1: Viking at this place, doing the carpentry, doing the work,
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  Speaker 1: dressed like Vikings like they're just living there. So it
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  Speaker 1: was a great word way to immerse us. And then
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  Speaker 1: of course we're going to do fun other things there.
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  Speaker 1: So initially waking the Viking the Viking initiation is about
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  Speaker 1: helping people go on an adventure that allows us to
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  Speaker 1: go do deep breath work.
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  Speaker 2: You get massage. We're doing coal puns and hot tub
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  Speaker 2: or sauna.
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  Speaker 1: We're going into these beautiful caverns with thousands of candles
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  Speaker 1: and meditating. We're doing a shield wall. We're learning how
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  Speaker 1: to cook like Vikings. We row Viking ships together, we
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  Speaker 1: dressed like Vikings. We get into character and get into
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  Speaker 1: this and feast like Vikings. It's about applying ancient wisdom
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  Speaker 1: and back then they had a beautiful disregard what you
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  Speaker 1: watch on TV, that's a lot of hollywoodish stuff that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that is not accurate. But the Vikings
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  Speaker 1: had a beautiful thing of masculine and feminine balance, equality,
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  Speaker 1: but not the sameness, not the confusion of sayness. They
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  Speaker 1: knew that they were different masculine and feminine, but their
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  Speaker 1: roles were respected and the women were even allowed to
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  Speaker 1: fight as shield maidens on the battlefield. It wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: the man's thing, but the women were not subservient, like
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  Speaker 1: they had to stay take care of the farmstead. That
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  Speaker 1: was their role, to take care of the homestead, the
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  Speaker 1: farm stead, the food, the farm all this. Well, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: the men would either go explore or go battle and
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  Speaker 1: do all that. They weren't these barbaric beings that people
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  Speaker 1: are made out to that the Christians actually had to
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  Speaker 1: to kind of make up for their churches and there
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  Speaker 1: coin being stolen made them into these barbarians. The Vikings
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  Speaker 1: didn't write a lot of things down. So the more
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  Speaker 1: I got into the Viking culture, I learned that while
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  Speaker 1: there's some beautiful, primal and ancient wisdom that we can
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  Speaker 1: go back to to learn from instead of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the recasted bs that's out there. So I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go back to home to that. That's the that's
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  Speaker 1: my quick passionate experience of it.
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  Speaker 2: So well, I want to touch on a couple all
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  Speaker 2: these pieces.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly, you know one I've been it's only been a
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  Speaker 3: two and a half almost three years of my like
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  Speaker 3: healing journey of becoming the new version of myself. And
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  Speaker 3: it's sad to say that there was part of this
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  Speaker 3: awakening for me. That part of the awakening for me
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  Speaker 3: from a religious sense happened way back in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: I had a.
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  Speaker 3: Company fail and I was like seeking and I felt
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  Speaker 3: like I had almost like an awakening moment for me
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  Speaker 3: to dive even closer to God. And so that piece
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  Speaker 3: of myself started going back in twenty sixteen. But the deep,
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  Speaker 3: like inner work, you know, people call it doing the Work.
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  Speaker 3: There's a book I would highly recommend anybody listening called
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  Speaker 3: how to Do The Work by Nicole Lopereira. She also
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  Speaker 3: wrote one called How to Become the Love You Seek.
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  Speaker 3: I think both of those if someone's listening, like you're
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  Speaker 3: looking for a book to read, if you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: do this deeper inner work, those are great to get started.
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  Speaker 2: Along with the book attached. It's another one that i've
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  Speaker 2: It's a classic.
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  Speaker 3: You know we're in an alignment, yeah, and so, but
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  Speaker 3: then the deeper, like looking inward and knowing that I
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  Speaker 3: needed to make some changes, like how can I become
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  Speaker 3: the best version of myself?
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  Speaker 2: Breath work was one of the first.
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  Speaker 3: I had never tried it before, and I know there's
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  Speaker 3: different versions of breath work and people have done. I
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  Speaker 3: went to one that was a Christ centered like breathwork session,
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  Speaker 3: and I know not all of them are like that,
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  Speaker 3: but it was for me exactly what I needed, and
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  Speaker 3: it broke me open in a new way that I
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  Speaker 3: had never felt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I had.
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  Speaker 3: Tears flowing after the session. I was writ I had
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  Speaker 3: six pages of notes in my in my journal. I
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  Speaker 3: felt like I was, you know, just communicating with God
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  Speaker 3: in like a prayer during the whole process. I want
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  Speaker 3: you to walk us through because not everybody's I think
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  Speaker 3: most people probably who are listening haven't ever done a
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  Speaker 3: breath work session. You don't have to do it with
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  Speaker 3: us right now, but I want to touch upon breath
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  Speaker 3: work real fast, and then I want to come back
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  Speaker 3: around on the masculine feminine cause I I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to leave that home because there's so much there. But
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  Speaker 3: educate us on this breastwork world, like what is this,
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  Speaker 3: why are we doing this? And what benefits can come
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  Speaker 3: from breathwork?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I love talking about this.
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  Speaker 1: Breathwork is such a big, big part of my life.
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  Speaker 1: And as long as I've been a NLP practitioner, a
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  Speaker 1: hypnotherapy since I was eighteen and nineteen years old, I've
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  Speaker 1: been doing breath work for around like I'm practicing it
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  Speaker 1: myself for the last eight or nine years, but the
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  Speaker 1: facilitation deeper like around the seven or eight years, and
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  Speaker 1: mixing that into what I do with hypnotherapy unconscious reprogramming.
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  Speaker 2: So breathwork is huge.
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  Speaker 1: I think these days, because psychedelics is so becoming more popular,
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  Speaker 1: people want to go right to another red pill, which is, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I just need to go do psychedelics.
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  Speaker 2: My friend Susie had a great, great session. I need
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  Speaker 2: to go do that.
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  Speaker 3: And I've never done anything like that, so I have
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  Speaker 3: no idea on that front.
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  Speaker 2: So teach us on both sides. This is good.
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  Speaker 1: Both are meant to accelerate our experience and to bring
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  Speaker 1: things up from the surface. What I mean by that
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  Speaker 1: is our body. And there's another book which is the
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  Speaker 1: Body Keep score. All of our feelings are emotions. Our
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  Speaker 1: unconscious mind is our body. Our body is our unconscious mind.
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  Speaker 1: All of our feelings or emotions are data points. They
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  Speaker 1: are messages to us. Gifts, even rage, even resentment, even sadness,
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  Speaker 1: even though all those negative ones that have been labeled,
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  Speaker 1: they're all gifts for us. These are all data points
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  Speaker 1: trying to communicate too us to guide us in our life.
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  Speaker 1: But we shut that down, we sweep it under the rug,
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  Speaker 1: we don't listen. Unfortunately, breath work is the most primal,
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  Speaker 1: most scientifically approved therapy that exists, safest thing for us
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  Speaker 1: to experience without talking about it, without doing talk therapy,
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  Speaker 1: to let go of and process these kind of emotions
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  Speaker 1: and stuck energies in our body. We look at when
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  Speaker 1: I do breathwork. I know it's not meaning I'm charge
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  Speaker 1: money to walk.
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  Speaker 2: People through it. But breath is free. We can just breathe.
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  Speaker 2: It's free.
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  Speaker 1: We breathe all the time every day, and we we
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  Speaker 1: we don't realize how important it is. So when we're
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  Speaker 1: breathing in certain ways, for example, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: don't know this, but just by changing the way that
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  Speaker 1: you breathe in and out, in how you release the
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  Speaker 1: breath and all that. So if you want to for example,
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  Speaker 1: bedtime or sleepy time, getting ready for the evening, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to disregulator down regulate your system, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to breathe in shorter and out longer, in for four,
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  Speaker 1: out for eight, and you can do you can do
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  Speaker 1: in through nose, out through your mouth, or you can
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  Speaker 1: do it all through your nose. You can do six
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  Speaker 1: in nice and slow, six out nice and slow. You're
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  Speaker 1: slowing your nervous system down. This is all about regulating
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  Speaker 1: your state and regulating your nervous system.
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  Speaker 3: This, I mean, we got I'm doing this on the
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  Speaker 3: phone with with coaching clients to get these adults.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I was never taught this.
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  Speaker 3: To do this breathe the thing that I had always
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  Speaker 3: heard of, this box breathing, and so it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's variations of this, but it's like in
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  Speaker 3: for five, hold it for five and then out if
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  Speaker 3: you can for ten, yeah, and if you can do that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, repeat it a few times. It's just like
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  Speaker 3: completely slows thing down for me. I'm trying to teach
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  Speaker 3: my kids this too, and they get frustrated or even
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  Speaker 3: if they get hurt, I'm like, okay, let's breathe.
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  Speaker 2: Breathe it out in and out. Okay, keep going. Sorry, No,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're right on.
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  Speaker 1: I do stuff with parents and kids, and one specifically
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  Speaker 1: for kids because kids are these God seeds.
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  Speaker 2: They're the closest to God.
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  Speaker 1: They've just come through to Christ, to all that, to
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  Speaker 1: this pow we're in the universe. And when we can
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  Speaker 1: teach them how to self regulate, they won't store all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that us adults have for so many years.
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  Speaker 1: So we teach them this up front. It's a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 1: We can come back to that. But breath is here.
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  Speaker 1: Breath is something we're not taught how to work with,
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  Speaker 1: but is one of the key components to how we
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  Speaker 1: regulate our nervous system, how we regulate stress, and how
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  Speaker 1: we can raise our frequency. A big piece of this
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  Speaker 1: I said the word state earlier, our state of being.
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  Speaker 1: So people could say something to you and it could
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  Speaker 1: be really jarring and hurting and like hurtful, and something.
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  Speaker 2: Could come up in you.
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  Speaker 1: It's not there's not their fault. It's nobody's irresponsible for
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  Speaker 1: the way you receive something. Although we try to be
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  Speaker 1: good humans and not say purple things. But if something's
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  Speaker 1: coming up in you and it's triggering something in you,
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  Speaker 1: that means there's something kind of locked in here, and
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  Speaker 1: that is showing a mirror to what's in there, and
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  Speaker 1: that means, oh, there's some work to do there.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 1: Then the first thing is to start breathing into it
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  Speaker 1: and not jump right into psychedelics, because you could do that,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, let's utilize the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: our bodies naturally able to do first, so by breathing somatically.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite is there's hypertropic breathing, which is very fast breathing.
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  Speaker 1: You can do for a long experioited time, expended period
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  Speaker 1: of time, or you can do somatic where belly chesst
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  Speaker 1: and out.
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  Speaker 2: You're not pushing it out, you're going or you're doing big.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, is that what the word really is?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Share that that somatic is the without words having to
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  Speaker 1: be said, your body will release the energies, the stuck
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  Speaker 1: emotions somatically. It's a release from the body, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: It is, a letting go from the body. And what
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  Speaker 1: that means is a time you were crying. Sometimes people
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  Speaker 1: are angry or screaming or or yawning or whatever. This
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  Speaker 1: is the body's natural way of getting it out. So
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  Speaker 1: let me put a metaphor in here. You ever watched
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  Speaker 1: with your kids Discover Channel or National Geographic.
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  Speaker 2: There's some cool things on Apple TV.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever see the gazelle getting chased by like
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  Speaker 1: a lion or a or a cheetah, and they're getting
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  Speaker 1: chased and they're this close from death. The jaws and
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  Speaker 1: the and the things that are where they're getting almost dead.
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  Speaker 1: But for whatever reason they got away, maybe they're scraped
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of whatever. Well, unlike humans, the gazelle
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  Speaker 1: in human nature literally has a way of shaking off
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  Speaker 1: its trauma. It shakes its whole body. You'll see it
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  Speaker 1: shake and it shakes away. In that moment the trauma,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, done. As opposed to bro, did you
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: see that tiger almost just completely kill me? They don't
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: go talk about their trauma. They just like shake it
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: off and it's done. We have a prefuntal cortex, so
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: we are not as evolved. We're evolved in a different way.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to trauma, breath work is like
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: are shaking it off?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: But if we don't do it, if we don't.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Do it as a practice, or we only do it,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you know once in a while, we're not going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: get the full benefit. It'll help, but we need to
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: shake the stuff off and let it go. So breathwork
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: is helping us get back into our body. We're neurologically
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: rewiring our brain. We are in a cellular level, rewaking
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: up the cells. So we can turn the cells back
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: on and get more in coherence. But above all, bro,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: this is about nervous system regulation. We're in a state
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: of people are on their phones all the time. They
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: are constantly getting information. We are hit up by marketing everywhere.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Very very little do people ever get to go into
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a meditative state. Now, I'm gonna talk a little bit
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: about a meditation and connection with the breath work right now,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you and I so as a hypnotherapist, what I'm doing
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: throughout the day is taking people up and down through
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: their different brainwave states. Guess what people love to say, Oh, yeah,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not hypnotizable. You can't hypnotize me. I'm like, nah to,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: my mind's too strong for that. Cool, that's great.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Guess what, You're always already being hypnotized all day every day.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: What do I mean by that?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: You and I are in beta right now, we're talking,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: we're tasking, we could do calendars, we can talk. We're
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: active in our conscious beta state. It's a higher brain
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: wave length. Once we close our eyes, just take a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: moment to drop into alpha. Can notice already by change,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: taking away of sensory or even putting ear plugs over
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: or ear muffs.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: You can drop down into a.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Beautiful, quieter place that already brings down our brain waves.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And then underneath that we have theta, which is where
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the magic happens. This is these they call the hypno thought,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: hypnotherapy state, the hypnotic state where you can rewire, recode,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: bring in your imagination, you can do the inner child, work,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the parts work, all the regression, all that stuff is
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: in this data area. And then delta, you're completely asleep.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: You're out, You're passed out to the world. You are out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So hypnosis is not sleep. But look at this, Look
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: at this what I just created, beta, alpha, theta, delta.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You woke up this morning. You were coming up through
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: all the brain waves, so you got up to beata.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: And now a lot of people go from sleep to
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: like email, phone, coffee, boom right up here. They don't
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: ease into the day. They's got to jump right into
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: it other people's agendas. But then what happens They have
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to go back down through that to get to sleep.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: We're constantly in these different fluxes of hypnotherapy, of these states,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all of us, so accept it. We're all in hypnotherapy,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: we're all induced in these states, Marketers, certain experiences know
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: what getting people into a trance and hypnotic state can do.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's all in the unconscious mind. So the reason why
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: we want to have breath work also is to induce
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: into a lower frequency state. When I do my breath work,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: everybody has headphones. I'm asks they hear my voice to
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: do the breath work, but they're in their own bubble
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: as well as a collective when we're doing group stuff.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But there's suffolgio sounds, there's binaural beats, there's cinematic music,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: there's panning, there's three of these stuff. There's all this
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: stuff to induce data so that then we can rewire
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: anything in your life. You want to change your personality,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you want to change who you are, You want to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: change your past, you want to change all these things.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You want to go into the different mechanisms that are
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: causing patterns of negativity in your life. This is where
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you do it, not going and.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Talking to a therapist. I'm sorry, talk therapy is useful.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Not saying I'm putting it down. But if you want
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: true change, you go into the hypnotic state and you
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: do the work there. There is a combination there's a
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: scientific study twenty some years ago hypnotherapy versus hypnotherapy versus
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: talk therapy. Talk therapy, around four hundred sessions had about
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a thirty two percent.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Change take rate. You know. Result.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of sessions, there's a lot of money.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Hypnotherapy in only six sessions a ninety three percent change
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: take rate. So, from an entrepreneurial standpoint, choose your own battle.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Some people, my clients do both. That's totally fun. They
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just like talking about it and then then they come
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to me like, hey, this thing came up, can we
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: work through it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not bashing it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It's just there's different modalities that can speed up change.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Work and get there. So are you able to do
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: something like this too virtually? Like on a call like this,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: if I were to put my headphones in and do it,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: is it better to be in person? I've I've really
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: only done breathwork in person with a facilitator.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But is it something that you could do both can do? Yes,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Eighty five percent of my business, I have worldwide clients
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that have never met and we do hypnotherapy and we
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: do breathwork just like this. I have clients who I've
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: done one hundred or two hundred people on a zoom
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm doing hypnotherapy and or breath work in person,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: same I've I think my biggest group is almost one
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: hundred people outside at a lake like place. So in
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: person is wonderful. I love being in people's energy. So yes,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it's great, it's wonderful. I have the clients fly in
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to me in Utah here to come do a two
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: or three day breakthrough, and so yeah, we can do both.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: But like it's just as effective.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It's frequency, and it's the person being able to get
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: into their own state and the listening to the words
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and getting in touch with their stuff.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing. Like our lives are so crazy busy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've got these eight kids, they're amazing,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: and then multiple businesses and it's like life is crazy.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure everyone listening you've got crazy stuff going on.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And the amount of.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Times prior to this, you know, prior to my divorce
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and kind of me learning about all these new things,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: how often was I truly sitting and meditating or pondering,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: and it was it was unfortunately is maybe so I
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: worship in the Temple. I go there, try to go
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: every week, and that to me, it's not that I
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: it's not even that I have to be in that
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: location to be a to meditate and pray. And because
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I can pray at home, I can pray on the street,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I can pray in the car, I can talk to
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: God anywhere at any time. But for whatever reason, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: needed to like remove myself from my surroundings to be
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: in a place where I could just it was almost
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: like I had trained my brain and.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: My body like that was my place to like cal
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: him down.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: So so you know, that's where I was getting that
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: meditative time. No phone obviously, can't have a phone in there.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: You know, No, nobody's really talking to you. It's just
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And so I've been trying to incorporate the worship that
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I do with God from the temple more often, being
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: able to have meditative time here at home and finding ways,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: you know, prior to scripture study or post scripture study
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: or in that prayer.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: This is just my version of it. I know there's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: many others.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: If it's universe or God or Jesus whatever, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: whoever you're thinking about.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: For me, it's God and Jesus. So when I'm praying,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get into that more a dative state.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: And you know, if I do it really early in
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the morning or really late at night, unfortunately, I'll fall
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: asleep sometimes and so I have to like I'll go
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: on my knee, I'll be on my knees and that
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: makes it a little bit easier to stay awake. But
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: like having a facilitator has helped me to break through deeper.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And so having someone walk through like you, like you
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: do for people I need. I need to come and
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: get an experience with you now anyway, I just I
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: wanted to be able to touch on this because I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: don't think so many people have tried breath work or
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: they're a little nervous and they're not sure, especially because
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: they've maybe heard rumors. So maybe you could maybe you
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: could clarify, you know, we're again I mentioned I haven't
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: done anything with psychedelics.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: That's that's not for me. I'm I haven't chosen to
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: do those types of things.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: But but breath working in itself doesn't have that, So
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: could you help people maybe remove some of the fear
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: of what is it? Like I know, for me, I
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: was laying down, eyes closed, you know, covered, and the
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: oxygen was flowing through my body, but it like changed
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: my hands a little bit. Right, My hands got and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I was almost feeling dingles and my jaw. So that
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: can kind of scare people from wanting to do it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Can you help answer some of those questions before? Oh?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, what you're talking about there is tetany.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Tetany is simply they call it lobster arms or t
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: rex arms. Where the only reason So it's just it's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a science. This is nothing mystical or woo woo. It's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: simply when we're when our bodies right, it was made
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: up of a certain amount of oxygen, the way that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: we process oxygen and carbon dioxide.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: When we're over oxygenating our blood.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: When I'm doing this thing, I'm bringing in more air
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: into my system than it's used to then I'm typically
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and so when we do that, it gases off everything
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: else and it's over oxygenating. When that happens, our bodies
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: are going to respond. And it's good news that our
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: bodies respond. There's the other good news. You're never going
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to hurt yourself. It's again the safest rated therapy that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: exists today from doctors, scientists, many many articles published.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: This is the safest thing you can do.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: What it's doing is it's actually like getting inflammation and
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: stuff out of your body. It's the body's way of reacting.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: It's the shaking off part process. Ours just looks a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: little different than shaking it. Some people do shake. The
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: reason it's doing that is and it's getting numb is
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: because it's starting to rewire and get the stuff out
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of your system that's stuck there, and so it can
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: look and feel weird. And then what it's doing is
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: because we are so we have become so good at
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: shoving things under the rug, putting a mask on of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm fine to the world, but I feel like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: crap inside that stuff begins to stack on and become
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: heavier and heavier and heavier until we either break consciously
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: meaning we're causing ourselves to break in in breath work,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: or man, something happens in our life to get us
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to scrape our knees to wake us up, and so
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: by doing breath work, you're actually go It may look
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like it's hard, but it's much better than the other
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: result of something happening to you, your family or something
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to wake you up.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So I just want to contrast that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: But what we're doing in the body is it's starting
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to do this, is it's letting the emotions come to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the surface. And now we know that some people have coined,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you know, some feelings and emotions as negative as hurtful.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: We've been hurt. It sucks to be hurt. It sucks
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to feel the pain and the anger, the sadness, all
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: But if we don't feel it, we don't heal it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: It's got to be if we don't, the only way
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: out is through. If we don't feel it, we don't
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: heal it. It's how our bodies are programmed.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately we're taught this in school because more people
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: would have a different relationship with this kind of work
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: if we just said, hey, this is part of it
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and they accept it as their norm back then until
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: after it starts, life starts hurting and stacking up. Then
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, you got to go feel all
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: those things. You're like, yeah, no, I don't want to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: That hurts too much.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, but that's I love this so much because
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: it's something where so so one of my one of
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: my children, I just had a little breakup, right, a
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: relationship broken up, and it was hard, right, he's and
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and as we were talking about it, I wanted him
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: to make sure to feel it. I was like, don't
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: just shove it down and say you're okay and move on,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: because that's what that's what was happening. Like, oh, I'm fine,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I'm fine, there's just normal teenage stuff.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I'm fine. I'm like, no, I want you to feel.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I want you to feel the emotion. It's okay, like
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: let it come, shed tears, like I just I remember, Look,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I had a great upbringing.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: My parents are fantastic.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: But you know, you get hurt or you're sat and
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it's like, all right, let's get back up, let's keep going,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: let's let's rock and roll. And and I've found myself,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: you know, even training my kids, I even have a
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: phrase like let's get you know, get back up, let's
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: keep going when we're training on a bicycle or on
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: a skis or you know, and and it's and it's
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: become this.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Cute little phrase.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I now I'm trying to
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: incorporate I want you to feel so if you're sad,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: if you're angry, if you're lonely, if you're tired, like
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I want you to feel it because I know for me,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm turning forty three this year, I've been
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: shoving things down for forty years and it's only now
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that I'm allowing these things to come up.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And it's been the most beautiful process.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And you know, I was taught I went through this
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: men's group program type thing and as part of this healing,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and they said that, you know, men may not get
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: as much out of the top therapy thing like we
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: were talking about, although I have been in talk therapy
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: for a long time and it's and it's and.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It has helped.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But I've found the breakthrough of breath work to be
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: way more dramatic of a healing process. Like if I'm
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: healing in layers like an onion, I was able to
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: remove multiple layers through a more breathwork. And then for men,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if this works as well for women,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: but for men, they talk specifically like if you need
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: to relieve some of these emotions to get into your car,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: be alone, don't have anybody near you, or they think
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: it's you and then stream like crazy, like just let
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: it out to where. And the way they taught me
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: was for men, and again maybe this has worked for women,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: but to release this emotion by screaming, and I don't
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: ever let myself scream, like that's not a thing I do.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: And so I remember the first time I tried to
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: say it was super awkward and weird for me. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: as I got a little bit more comfortable and just
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: like screaming and letting.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: These things out.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: And I know it sounds, it sounds so contrary to
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: like be christ Like and be kind and it's like, no, no,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: you are. But I was able to release in a
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: very safe environment alone with no one around, no one
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: see or hear or anything. And after a couple of
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: minutes of just letting it the and this like snop
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: coming out of my nose, it was like something deep
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: inside me was allowed to come up and out. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I remember walking into the house after that like a
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: refreshed human. I remember being able to walk into maybe
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: what was a hard circumstance and I was totally on
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: my a game. Yeah, because I had allowed some of
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: these things to release. Now it's not that I had
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: healed every ailing part or you know, trauma. But it
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: was a deep layer that I was able to come
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: in to whatever circumstance that was maybe hard at the time,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: and and I could handle with calmness, being grounded. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: didn't react. I was able to be calm and respond.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: And it's been a game changer for me. So is
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: it mostly men that that works with? Does it work
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: for women?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well? Both both and both it's it's so important.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: So this is all about some mat so a big
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: part of the breathing, they're building up the oxygen for
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: an extended period of time. In this way, you build
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: this up and then we do these long breath.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Holds and hold it in.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And when you're over oxygen at in your body, you
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: can hold your breath way longer. And your buying was
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to start letting you but like you just once you
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: like go into the piece. Oh my god, it is
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: so beautiful in there. You start to feel and remember
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: yourself again. This is about remembrance. The breath takes you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: back to your primal self, to your DNA, to Christ,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to God, whatever you want to call it. You have
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: these moments and then as it builds up the pressure
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and the music and all that, and then you just
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: let the massive primal scream out. We've been screaming for
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: thousands and millions of years. This is a part of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: our process. The lion roars. There's nothing wrong with it,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: there's nothing bad. And it can feel awkward, But when
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you have bro ten twenty one hundred men or women
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: in the same room and everyone at the same time,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: three two one, let it rip and everybody screams and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: gets it out, it compounds on top of it and
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you were just and then when you hear other people yelling,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you yell more and you get more of the stuff
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: out without having to talk about it. So, yeah, you're
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: not healing everything, but you're getting out of your body
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: exactly what it needs to be out, and you're not
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: carrying all this pressure. And by the way, most people
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: are carrying stuff for other people. That's not even theirs
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to carry now, mom and dad, grandparents, ancestors, other friends.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Stuff. No, you get to put it the f down.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Put it down. It's not your baggage to carry. Breathwork
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: is one of the most magical gifts you can give yourself.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And if you did one, and I just tell you
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: one seventy five to ninety minute breathwork session where you're
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: actually active breathing for about forty five ish minutes, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: then there's other work to be done inside of that container.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Once a month, dude, that's twelve big releases a year.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: You will be a very different human. If you did
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: just that, you could do more.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: But what if you just did one a month, that's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: twelve things you get to low.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Well, actually multiple things are being allowed to go of,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: but yeah, twelve letting goes. That's why this is so important,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and that's why on the other side, like you said,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: through the pain is the path. The only way out
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: is through. You can't feel it. If you don't feel it,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you don't heal it. Breathwork allows you to do that
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in a way that yeah, there might be tears, or
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: might be snopped, there might be screaming, but afterwards the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: people will look around and share their stories and people
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, I had that same experience. I've had
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: people for their first time literally feel like angels came down,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: their dead grandmother came and joined them right next to
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: their bedside, and was they're breathing with them, feeling the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: love of God, of Christ holding them, being with them.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm getting chills again because I've heard these right things.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: It's the fastest way, and psychedelics is a whole nother discussion,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: but we can hit so we hit DMT in our brain.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: We create DMT when you're breathing, you're actually hitting psychedelic
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: states all naturally, without anything any substance.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So breathwork is the key.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: The carriage, the rocket ship to take you to the
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: other version of yourself that you want to be that's
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: much lighter and life doesn't have to be so hard
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: when you have breathwork in it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: It's easier.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I just sometimes I ask myself, like, why did it
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: take me to my forties to hear about this? And
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: you know, I talk again. I'm talking to my kids.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I got these eight kids six to sixteen. I want
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: to look generational traumas generational whatever. I want to stop
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: and heal these kids now and help them to at
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: least have the resources so that when they go through
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: difficult times, which they will, you know, we all do.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I think that's part of God's.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Plan that they have resources to know that they can
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: do things like this.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: And it's fascinating because I just haven't felt.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: And maybe it was my network, maybe it was my upbringing,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: maybe it was something I no one ever talked about
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: this stuff, and I know what the first time I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: heard about it, And some people are probably listening to
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: being like this is woo woo, because that's how I felt.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I definitely felt like this was kind of weird and awkward.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: And I remember being at a Tony Robbins event and
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: they were having everybody scream and I was like looking around.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Like I can't do that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: That's that's I just don't let myself get there, you know.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: And yet and yet this is one of and I'm
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: just professing like this is one of the best ways
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: that I have found layered healing is through this type
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: of method, and which is why I wanted us to
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: spend this time. And it's I think too many people
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: are afraid of the unknown. They've never heard about it,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: they've never done it. They don't they don't realize. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: it literally is just breathing and this deeper light. It's
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: a unique style of breathing. It's safe, it's healthy, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I just would ask people to give it a try, right,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: give it a try, and if.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: You can do one on one or you can do group.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Some people just want to not be with other people,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and that's fine. You can come do one on one
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: with me, or I can send you to somebody who's
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: in your area.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And I have recommended people in different areas.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: But like, I agree with you, man, it's it's so
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: important that we say this and that we teach our children.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: We got to teach our kids how to self regulate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: We teach them these tools, they will be so much
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: further ahead of us because again they're not holding onto
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the stuff. Imagine your son who had the breakup, or
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: anybody else, like going into the meditative state and breathing
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: through the emotions wherever it is. Sometimes it get stuck here.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Usually it's in a heart in the chest. When it's relational,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: being able to like lean in, like what's the message
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: here is like hey, you know, sometimes our body is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: going to tell you like, hey, you loved and you learned.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: This is beautiful, It's okay, you're loved, you are enough,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: all these beautiful things that that when that mind gets involved,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: it can do the opposite and push you down and
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: drag you down. So we've got to get out of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: their minds and back into their body. So teaching the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: children and also doing it as a family, breath work
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: on the weekends with a family, like I literally do
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: it parents and children, And actually we could even co
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: promote when if you want to, we do one here
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in Utah. I've got a number of parents are like,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: who come to my things, like can we do this
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: with the kids? I'm like, yes, we would do a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: little bit differently, but we do with parents and kids.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: A situation where we're teaching the kids on how to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: go into this whenever they have how to form an intention, Okay,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: if you have a question or something that's bothering you,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: cool five to twenty minutes of breath work is game
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: changer for them and then they go on. They're like
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the gazelle, shaking it off right away as opposed to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: twenty years later, like.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: We had to learn. Absolutely no.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I love that kind of concept and I wanted to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: bring us back. So first of all, let's talk. Thank
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: you for explaining about breath work. Hopefully that relieves some
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: fear from people. It's safe, it's healthy, it's something that
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: anyone you can all do it. I think having a
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: facilitator like yourself is really really helpful, just to get
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: used to what this process looks like and then being
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: open and for me, when I'm in that state, I'm
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: just I'm in a prayer state.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to God the whole time.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I'm doing the breathing, and I'm connecting, and I'm trying
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: to I'm either trying to ask questions of what am
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I supposed to learn through this painful experience, I'm asking
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: for help or forgiveness of like hey, I know I
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: could be better, so help me with X, Y or Z,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and then asking for instructions so like this is that's
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: what I do. Is then I want as these feelings
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: and almost like you mentioned in the beginning of download,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: can come through at the end, I want to write
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: down what are the messages, what are the insights? Who
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: do I need to forgive or who do I need
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: to ask for forgiveness or like some of these pieces
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: have come to me in this meditative state. So I
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: want to also talk now about this masculine feminine because
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to me, a lot of this because this sounds a
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: little bit woo woo.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I always thought this was just like a woman thing and.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: That like breath work or like healing or digging deep
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: into your emotions, like that's a woman thing, but that
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: has been completely blown.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, men need this more than ever. I mean,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: we all need it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, one of the reasons why I even
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: created the Fatherhood movement was because I wanted a christ
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: centered healing.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I wanted it men's group. I wanted women's group to.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Be able to reach people because they know they can
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: do something different. They know that they can connect with
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: God and themselves in a different way, but they don't
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: know exactly how. And so to be able to share
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: instruction like this on the breathwork side, to do retreats
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: where they can really connect, whether it's a fatherhood retreat,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: a motherhood retreat, or a father son dady, daughter and
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: things like that. And then if you have discussions of
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: other people as they've gone through healings, so they can
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: know it's possible for them anyway. This masculine feminine dynamic
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about because I look at it
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: as a divine masculine, a divine feminine. I look at
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Jesus as being the ultimate divine masculine example, where he
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: can be merciful and he can be gentle, but then
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: he can throw the tables at the temple, right, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: he's the old To me, he is the Jehovah of
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: the Old Testament, so he is he can lay down
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: the lot pretty hefty. If you've been reading the Old
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Testament and then you've got this kind meek you know
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: laya that's in the New Testament.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: And so you've you've got this dichotomy. So okay, doking.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I want to hear your experience from the polarity of
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: masculine feminine. I want the people who are listening to
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: grasp the concept of why they are so important to
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: know the difference. And I'm going to just profess I
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: do believe in more of a traditional roles.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: It's not that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Look, it's such a sense I feel like I'm going
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: to get hammered either way. I talked about this right
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: because it's not politically correct. But I just feel like
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: our truest sense of joy comes from when we're acting
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: in our like for me in my masculine and for
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: a woman in her feminine. And you have to get
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: up and go to work sometimes and step into your
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: masculine as absolutely that, but can you get back into
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the feminine state and for me, I can step into
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: a feminine part of my role, But then do I
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: get back into a mass and state?
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, hit us up, educate us. Okay, that's perfect, let's
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: start right there.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: It's about the acknowledgment and acceptance that we each man
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and women have masculine and feminine. It's that there is
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: a balance and or there is this both. Now there's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: more men that you and I both know, all of
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: us know, Like, there's some guys that are super in
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: their feminine right now. And this is not about judgment.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: This is just we're calling it as it is. And
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: then there's some men that are so in their alpha dogs,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: so in their you know, the main man, the football guy,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the big tough soldier, like all that kind of stuff.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: We've got these polarities, we've got these difference and everything
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: else in between. And we've got a lot of women
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: out there who are again they have to wear their
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: masculine right now. They're like, where are the kings at?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Where are all the good men at? Why are these
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: guys not showing up? And and women from the feminist
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: movement has been encouraging women being more masculine, being in
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: their thing. These are all wonderful and terrible things at
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the same time. It just is what it is, So
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: no judgment it is. But I just feel like we
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: come back to the present moment. There's masculine and feminine
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: out there right now. There is a huge, huge, huge
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: need because women have more support than men do. Mende
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: are they in these individual lone wolf type clusters where
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: they don't have the support of other men. They don't
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: see men's group or men's work as something positive. They
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: see you know, fight club back in the day, and
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: they think they're just hugging big old bob bitch hits
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and crying and crying and that's what this is.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: When singing Kumbaya, It's like, no, this is not what
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that's about. We have we have been.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Let's look back at our ancestors, like thousands of years
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: battles warriors, warriors upon the battlefield after seeing not only
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: them slaying people, those who have they killed who maybe
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: they didn't like them, but another human doesn't really like
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: taking another life, right, and then then their friends, brothers
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: being killed on the battlefield, they would have to cry
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: in a moat and get it out of the battlefield,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: not hold it in. It was actually a good behavior
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: for warriors to cry and to get it out and
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to have then the brotherhood of Okay, we're alive, now
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: we made it. Let's have communion, let's have community, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: maybe there's go drink and go do these things and
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: go enjoy life because they lived.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: This is all important to discuss.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Now from the masculine feminine side, we have a very
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: big lack of men stepping into their true what they
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: call their masculine leadership. I'm not big on the healthy
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: masculine toxic masculine talk. I don't really want to buy
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: into that. Let's just look at men being leaders, being
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: able to lead to a point where they can hold
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the space and frame for the feminine to step in.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: That means being a great provider, being a great communicator,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: being a man, a true man who feels feelings and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: can be in his emotions. And here's the big thing
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: for men not reacting responding. Men who are in their
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: healthy masculine their masculine leadership is a man that when attacked.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: When I say attacked to I mean physically attacked, well,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: it could be a physically attact. But words women being
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: chaotic if as they can be another man doing whatever
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: saying the thing. Words can cut these days, They've always
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: been able to cut. But then a man to be
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: able to receive it almost have a force field. And
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I imagine a force field when that bullet stops and
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I can hmm, yeah, that's not for me, no, or
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: be able to stop it instead of it reacting, turning
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: into anger, turning into rage, turning into action hitting somebody
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: doing the thing. Reaction is different than response. Response takes
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: a moment to breathe, yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: You see where that is my body?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, I hear you, and I don't think you meant
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: to say that, or maybe you meant to say that,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And here's then being able to explain it. A true
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: man in his masculine is able to receive that and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: then respond appropriately, holding his masculine frame holding boundaries. So
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: these are big pieces in what that health the part
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: looks like, so that the feminine when and men can
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: be just as chaotic in their own way, but women
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: can be chaos and their emotions.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: And all that, but that's okay.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: A masculine can hold the frame, be unwavering, be unstoppably,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: be unmess with able, and be able to still be
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: in his truth and his boundaries, but then like hold
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: that what's going on and be in that strong masculine
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and allowing the feminine to step in. But then also
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the feminine being able to have someone with them that's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: taking care of them.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: In these ways.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: She can step into the masculine when she needs to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for work or for other things. But it's us learning
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: how to do this dance between the two as individuals sovereign.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: But then when you're in relation with each other, how
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that can play. If you're in a relationship like I was,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: where my wife, my ex wife, was mostly taught to
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: be intermasculine, not her fault, just how she came up,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: what her traumas were, things like that. Unfortunately, it was
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: very hard for me to be in the masculine, and
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: if I did just step in a masculine it was
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: also then.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Like that wasn't doing it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: If I didn't do it the right way, that her
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: way right, it became became a very difficult battle, and
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I backed down into my feminine too much. That is
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: not a good place for a man to be. And
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: so we've got to be able to learn to navigate
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: this masculine feminine thing and the better that we get
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: at one regulating our nervous systems. We've got to do
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the breath work, We've got to do this baseline practice.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I call them the non negotiables, the meditation, the breath work,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the reading, the scripture. Whatever makes you your best version
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: allows you to be able to in tune and be
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: in frequency with a masculine and feminine back and forth.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: So that makes makeing sense. Ola was right.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: There, No, I love this because I two stepped into
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: my feminine right and it was something I had no clue.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: It was completely subconscious. I had no idea what was happening.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: There was obviously disconnect and and it was something that
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I just didn't I didn't know about any of this
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: type of stuff. And so, you know, just trying to
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: keep peace, trying to you know, do the best to
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: keep relationship together. It just felt like I did not
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: understand what a true masculine man needed to do and
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: to be and to hold boundaries. And I didn't even
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: know the term boundary meant. I remember being asked once
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: like where are your boundaries? Like what are your boundaries?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what is that?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: What is a boundary? Even? Are you mean?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: So explain to people like, what is a boundary? And
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I'll give my two cents after.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this is such a great conversation I wrote.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I wrote a really cool kind of post and thing
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: on boundaries that I think is really good, and I'll
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: have to bring it back up and I'll share this
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: in the notes with you too. Then it puts in
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: a really beautiful way and I'm forgetting my short version
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of it, but basically, yeah, man, we've got it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Part of it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: This goes back to the masculine frame. Boundaries in our
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: life are us expressing our needs. And it's okay to
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: have needs or certain things that you are willing. It's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: what you're not available for. Hey, A boundary says, hey,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: guess what in our relationship, here's all the things I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: available for. These are great, but when it comes to this,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: this and this, I am not available for that treatment,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not available for that thing. It's not it's being
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: available or not available for. And this is a very
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: easy way to put it. That's not attacking, right, it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: it's this is my model of the world, and I'm
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: going to go deeper. And this comes into the values
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: work I do with my clients. Values, solicitation, values, drive
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: your behavior, drive your thoughts, your your feelings, all this stuff.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: If you don't understand, are at our as minutes, our code,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: it's our north star in all years of your life,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: them being you know, Tony Robbins talks about the wheel
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of life like finance, career, family, relationships, health, well all
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: that stuff like your wheel. If we're if we don't
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: understand what our core values are. Core values being the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: top three or four values that are most important to
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you about each of those subjects. If you don't realist
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that your values, then you could be in a job
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: or relationship and you may you know, maybe in flux,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like it's just not working, Like you can love this person,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: be in this relationship, You're like, why are we just
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: like budding hads? Why is this not working? I love
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: this person so much. It's because your values are completely upset.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: If one if the man or the woman will say
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: he's valuing her career, finance, adventure and then kids in
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: love and the husband is like family, kids, you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: quality time.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Then adventure and all that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Those are two very different things that's going to dictate
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the behaviors in each of their core although they love
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: each other. Take going this way, big, big, big, huge realization.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: If the company's values are one thing, but you value
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: something different, they may bee'll.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Pay you all the money in the world. You're like,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I am not happy in this job. Why is that?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Values drive our behavior? So underlining knowing what we value
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: here can help us put our boundaries in place and
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: what that looks like. So we don't know why we're
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: doing something what's most important to us. Then we can say, well,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: this is most most important to me and I need
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to come. And then it's not only knowing the boundary,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: then how do you communicate that boundary in a loving,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: compassionate way so the person can understand it and respect
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it and then be able to understand that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Well, here's one of the simplest ways that that I've
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: This example to me is what helped me to click.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Let's say you're in a discussion. It's a disagreement. Someone chooses,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: the other person chooses to raise their voice. For me,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the boundary is, you know, if someone chooses to raise
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: their voice, I can't change their behavior. That's their choice
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: to raise their voice or not. I can only choose
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: what I'm going to do in that circumstance. So my
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: boundary is if someone chooses to raise their voice, I'm
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: going to politely walk away. And it's not I'm going
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: to slam doors. I'm not going to choose somebody out.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to react. It's it's stated, you know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to stand. I'm not going to be
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: here with your voice being raised. And so we can
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: talk as soon as we're able to talk without voices
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: being raised. And then me in controllable only what I
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: can do, which is to walk away. Now I have
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: to remember that I need to come back. I can't
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: walk away run away and never talk about avoidance of
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: not avoidance, but as let's get into a calmer state
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: and then and then let's have.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: A discussion, so I'll come back in ten.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Minutes, right, And And that to me was like when
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I when I was learning about boundaries, like, okay, that
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I understand what I what I've had a harder time
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: with was, for example, there was someone that I had
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: gone out with and that person ended up sharing some
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: sensitive things that I had been vulnerable with with other
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: people that I don't know and that I don't shouldn't
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: have been shared. Sure, and I remember I immediately stood
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: up and said that was inappropriate, Like what you shared
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: is not okay, and that can't happen again, and I
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: couldn't change it already had happened.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: But that was I was to me.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I was setting a boundary that that whatever, you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: that thing that was inappropriate, I'm not available for that,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: and so this relationship won't continue if that happens again.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Kind of a thing, and I had never done that
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: ever before. I think the only thing that ever stopped
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: was from the physical component of being in a relationship
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: where there's intimacy or non intimacy, and that has been
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: very easy for me because I have very clear boundaries
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: of what I'm willing or not willing to do. I
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: did not realize by the way going into the singles
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: world that I had to be so strong on that area,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: but I do now know I need to have very
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: clear boundaries from that experience of setting that, and I
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: do believe, look, women need to have boundaries. Physically, I
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: think men should be responsible for their actions, and they
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: should be the one, I hope would be leading and
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: protecting the person that was That's a whole other topic, but.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Both both YEAH and I want to just add one
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: thing to that. Yes, And also I just want to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: say I thought it was like the opportunity to say, like, hey,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: men like need to feel safe too.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: We get to feel safe.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of like women need to save men
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: need to make the women feel safe too. It's like, well,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: we also need to feel safe in our own bodies.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: But at the same time when dating or in getting
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: into relationships or all this this world is crazy, chaotic
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: world that we can be being out there. It's okay
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: for men to feel safe too, and to if they're
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: not feeling safe from a woman being able to that
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: being a boundary like, hey, I want to feel safe
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm not feeling safe with these actions or ways
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that you're treating me.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It's okay to speak that up. It's not a weakness.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: I want to hit that because I've felt these exact pieces. Right,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: We're supposed to be in this masculine frame who can accept, you, know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: the emotions that are coming, and and not not just
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: not accept necessarily receive you. And it's not that you
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: even have to agree, but receive it and then respond
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: in a healthy, in a healthy way, so that we
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: can have a safe you know, feeling together.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: What I haven't been able to figure.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Out is how do we when we do allow ourselves
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: to be vulnerable, Because to me, vulnerability breeds connection. And
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: so when a woman and a man are able to
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: have vulnerable discussions, like that's how they're going to really
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: connect and have deep relationship.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: But what I've.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Found it feels like is when a man sometimes gets
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: to a vulnerable state, is willing to be open that
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: they can lose respect from that woman. So help me
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: to understand, help us listening, how does a woman receive
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: a man's vulnerability and how does a man give vulnerability
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: without feeling like they're losing their masculine frame.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Hm?
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, I absolutely love this conversation. So first and
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: foremost vulnerability much harder usually.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: From men to do that in general. Right, let's talk
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: So how it's sharing the member that they taught us
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: in school, Like I feel I feel this when so
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: not putting on the other person, but like here's what
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling, here's what I'm experiencing. Someone being able to
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: like first and foremost in that natural or that healthy
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: nervous system state, whatever feeling, get in touch with that
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: emotion and instead of respond instead of reacting, responding, being
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: able to respond, hey, you know what, when you're saying
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: these things or you're doing that, I'm feeling this, I'm
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: feeling sadness, and I'm feeling also anger, but saying in
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: that way and being able to communicate what you're feeling
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: in that mode and say, you know, this has been
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: happening a number of times. I just I really want
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: to be vulnerable and transparent with you that this is
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: what's coming up for me. I think it's all in
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the delivery voice tone. Tone is seventy percent of communication,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: or over fifty five percent of communication is tone, not
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: what is said, but how you say it. So in vulnerability,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: strength can come from presence and calm and peace and
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: then communicating that but being very very conscious of your
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: words and sharing whatever that thing is, just being real
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and transparent in the moment. Women will respect it. They
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: may not like it up trump, but they will respect
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: it at a conscious or unconscious level, and that's okay.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And also when you're immuting to other men or women
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to men, whatnot. I think it's all in that way
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: of really first being in touch with what's going on
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and if you're not sure, being like, you know what,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: there's something going on and I'm not really clear. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: want to come back to this conversation. I want to
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: be vulnerable with you, but hey, I need a moment
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: or I'm going to.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Need some time to process this.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: So I think it's being being real and authentic in
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the moment of vulnerability to then allow that thing to
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: come through in a peaceful, calm state as opposed to
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: again the reaction thing.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: It's about your response. Does that help answer your question? Yeah?
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: And I love this because it's something that I felt.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: You know, it's I feel like I'm a vulnerable person,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Like I'm able to have vulnerable discussions about life and happenings,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: but this recognizing the emotion and verbalizing that emotion I
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: have not been good at and so knowing that in
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: the moment I'm feeling something and it's part of my
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: recovering people pleaser, Like I'm literally a recovering people pleaser
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: and I feel something in that moment and I'm like,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: that's gonna hurt. But it's not that I'm trying to
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: like say something to I'm just thinking within a relationship,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: if I felt something that I knew was deep. I
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: would hold it and not speak it, and I would
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: go quiet because I didn't know how to verbalize that
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: thing without even if I was in a calm state,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I was nervous to state the clear truths that was
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: happening within.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Me with the because it comes from a fear of abandonment,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: a fear of that person leaving, a person you were try.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: This is the mister nys to guy syndrome. This is yeah,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: but a lot of that is untruth. It's it's actually
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: not even a real thing. It's just the lens we're
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: looking through. So let me give you just a tip
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: and that little I'm gonna dig in a little bit
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: more if you're in that moment. Sometimes, if you're with
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: somebody who's a trusted container for you, let's say, where
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: they could hold space for you.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I've even done this.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I've even coached some of my clients if it's coming up,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: literally stop, be like, hey, just give me a moment,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: close your eyes, can breathe, just like breathe into it
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and just you're not actually what's the message.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Just get out of your head and just like feel And.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: It's a practice, but it's almost like, hey, you know what,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: like there's this like pain that's happening right here when
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: you said that thing, and it's almost like if you
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: just talk it out and enunciate it to the person
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: that could hold space for you, all they need to
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: do is hold space and they may even like help
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: you describe your like it feels like this and this
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: and the you you mean like this, Oh yeah, you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: can actually practice this by just being present with it
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and breaking it down step by step and talking it out.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: And then sometimes all it needs to do is be
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: felt for sixtyty seventy seven seconds.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: That's it just needs to be there, like wow, I
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: just felt this, and here's the learning from it. And
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: it's about sharing it.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: When you when people start to see that you're not perfect,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: you're not superman or superwoman, you're not a robot, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: you actually have these feelings and these doubts and all this,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: you become so much more relatable and then their nervous
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: system drops down. They feel safe to be like, you
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: know what, I've been meaning to share something with you.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: It's literally that authenticity has to be inside of the
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: container of vulnerability to be like, here's what's coming up
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Present right now. It's about being present, not in the future,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: not in the past. So how do you do that
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: when the person had not been safe? Nice?
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: So how do you have I think some of us
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: are in relationships or have been in relationships where that
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: partner and that boyfriend, that that spouse has hurt you.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: And look, in every marriage, I'm going to just assume
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: every marriage there have been safe times and not feeling
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: safe times. So how as someone who has felt unsafe
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: because words were weaponized against them, mistakes of the past
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: for twisted and thrown.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Back at them.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe something you know, a past discussion back
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: up again. How do you get into that vulnerable state
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: again when you don't necessarily feel safe?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: That is a great question. There's a lot of it
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: depends on the person.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: The situation. Is this an ex wife, somebody you have
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: kids with. This is something that's going to be in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: your life, but they've been unsafe, right. A lot of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: different dynamics here, But I think it all comes down
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to again, and the person may not understand it in
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: the beginning and they may not even respect it. But
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: like the more that again you can drop into your authenticity,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: share what I'm feeling Again, if somebody's feeling unsafe, then
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: they're feeling unsafe in inside themselves, but they're also feeling
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: unsafe from stuff that you had done for before. So
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: the more that you can start rebuilding that momentum and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: getting back in integrity with yourself and them, I think
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: it's important. So sometimes it's about going. You want to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: be careful to not go backwards and drum up the past.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: But if there is something you're out of integrity with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and it's been unset and it's something that you should
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: have had that conversation, A big, big part of getting
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: stuck and being unsafe for somebody is re establishing and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: reconnecting and getting back in integrity with them. You could
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: have said, have done something, said something that you were
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: going to do that you didn't do or didn't finish or.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Or or whatnot.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: When we're out of integrity with ourselves or other people,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: it is our responsibility to get back an integrity with them,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: whether they like it or not, or whether it helps
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you're just you're getting an energy back in them. So
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: it may there's so many different scenarios here, but we
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: can pick and choose whatever those scenarios would be and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: look at with.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Love and compassion in our body.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Not again, if we're feeling anger in the moment, if
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: we're feeling all these other charged emotions, not the right
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: time means you've got to let some pressure out before
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: you really express that, unless you have the ability to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: hold that in and say, I am very angry about
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: this thing, I am feeling this because of this and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: putting out there. But if you're on a scale of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: zero to ten, it's a seven to ten, you probably
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: need to put it in writing or do some breath
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: work around it, or do some therapy around it, and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: just like like reduce the trigger and the and that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: that's impulse, so that again.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: You're not reacting, you're responding. I mean, how many texts
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: have I written that I've just deleted right right? Yeah, no,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: don't even send it.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: It's like you feel it, you write it out, and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: then it's like I'm going to sit on this for
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: a minute, and then you know.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, it never should have that was
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: not the right That is again that that difference between
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: reacting responding. So hopefully that helps clear it up on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: how to have those conversations. But again, you coming into
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the container feeling safe, feeling again.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: This is why breath work is so important.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: If you know you're going to be getting into a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: conversation or sharing space with somebody that where there's an
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: out of integrity container. The more you come in with
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: a calm nervous system, you're already going to magnetize and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and that person will will hopefully match that that state
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you want to step in, especially as a man, a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: masculine leader, you want to lead to the feminine.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: You want to lead the femin and out of their state.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: So one of the big things that I learned after
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the fact and have been training and working with the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: men in the Noble King's Collective my group, is if
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: a feminine is in a certain state, she does have
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: the choice to do it, and she may not know
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: how to do it in her state because she is
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: so emotional at that time.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Then you it's it's not hurt up to her to change.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: It's for you to lead her out of that with questions,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: with love, with holding, with physical touch, with whatever is
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: appropriate for the situation of the person, to lead the
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  Speaker 1: feminine into a different state of being then and then
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  Speaker 1: they can rebuild the trust in the safety.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man I just I love this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's so deep, and I don't feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: talked about enough at least in you know, my social
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  Speaker 3: circles as much. So when I hear things like what
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  Speaker 3: you're doing and how you're teaching and helping people, it
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  Speaker 3: just speaks to my core. I know, for me, the
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  Speaker 3: deepest level of healing is when I'm able to incorporate
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  Speaker 3: you know, Jesus as the master healer and then these
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  Speaker 3: types of practices. When I bring both of those things together,
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  Speaker 3: that's where the deeper healing has happened for me. It
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  Speaker 3: was almost like I couldn't fully get there, you know, mentally, spiritually, emotionally,
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  Speaker 3: you know, from just the spiritual side without these other components.
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  Speaker 3: And and so I just want to open these this
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  Speaker 3: type of discussion and anyway, Aaron James, this has been awesome,
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  Speaker 3: but there's so much more we can talk about. There's
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  Speaker 3: so much where we can go into, and so maybe
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  Speaker 3: we have to do another one of these.
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  Speaker 2: Part two I love too.
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  Speaker 3: I want to make sure people know where to find
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  Speaker 3: you though, if they're coming to follow you online, is
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  Speaker 3: there like Social Channel's website, tell people where they can
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  Speaker 3: come and find you totally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm most active on Instagram Aaron James Yeager. My full
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  Speaker 1: name A R O N James j A M E
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  Speaker 1: S Y A G E R. So I'm very active
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  Speaker 1: on there, and then Nobel King's Collective is another Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: Noble King's Collector, which is just getting up and running.
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  Speaker 1: But then we've got Noble Kings Collective dot com. But
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  Speaker 1: if you are interested and the Viking thing awakened, the
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  Speaker 1: Viking dot Com is the other website to go to
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  Speaker 1: to check out the cool videos and everything on there.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be taking applications for twenty twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: as soon as we get all that stuff figured out,
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  Speaker 1: and that might be a really great thing for us
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  Speaker 1: to coordinate on with your group.
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  Speaker 2: I love working with.
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  Speaker 1: All the existing communities because I take it now that
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  Speaker 1: one is I do have a separate men's one, but
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  Speaker 1: I take men and women, and usually these couples come
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  Speaker 1: out and it's a beautiful. We have a full day
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  Speaker 1: where the masculine are together, and full day with the
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  Speaker 1: women are together. And let me tell you the women.
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  Speaker 1: Last time, when the women went on the Viking ship
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  Speaker 1: to Row, they went way farther than the guys.
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  Speaker 2: They crushed us.
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  Speaker 1: They went like the whole other city, found a cool spot,
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  Speaker 1: laid out, got some sun and will look they had
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  Speaker 1: gotten the sun.
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  Speaker 2: We got the rain.
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  Speaker 1: But still we were out there and like we came
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  Speaker 1: back and the women like crushed us. They went way
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  Speaker 1: further down the fewer than us. And so it's a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful container. But I'm also I'm very active on those
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  Speaker 1: my team. I will get back to you. Please, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to do a local breathwork, just a message
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  Speaker 1: on there. I've got a lot of content around breath
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  Speaker 2: Last but not least, I if you have.
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  Speaker 1: And we also mix hypnotherapy with our stuff too, because
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  Speaker 1: everything is internal is external in dissonance. Not only will
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  Speaker 1: you we're getting rid of makeup and all the other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You just need to re teach your skin how to
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  Speaker 1: rewire your brain and let go of whatever the emotions
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  Speaker 1: might be with that rash that comes up on your neck.
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  Speaker 1: This is all emotional stuff. It's not just topicals. So
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  Speaker 1: it all ties into another product company that I have.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the work that I do, and thank
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  Speaker 1: you again for having me on so we could talk
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  Speaker 1: about all these things.
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  Speaker 2: I love it now. I didn't ask you this beforehand.
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  Speaker 3: If my followers, my listeners that are here, if they
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  Speaker 2: So we'll put all these in the show notes for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome man, I love that. Hey, thanks for taking the time.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to do another one of these, for sure,
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  Speaker 3: we will, okay, thank you.