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Credlin | 15 August · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kranland live on Skyins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. A fiery scenes in Canberra.
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Speaker 2: We'll get across all the latest will start there. One
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Speaker 2: of the Gucci Greens, Zalie Stegel, played gunner politics in
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Speaker 2: the Parliament today, accusing Peter Dutton of racism as he
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Speaker 2: demands gars and visas go on hold until every single
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Speaker 2: person can be properly security checked. As exposed last night,
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Speaker 2: the New South Wales Liberal parties in shambles as they
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Speaker 2: fail to lodge nominations for council elections on time, demands
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Speaker 2: today that those responsible resign. But what does this say
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Speaker 2: about their preparations for the looming federal campaign. I'll explain
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Speaker 2: why this rings alarm bells for Peter Dutton. It's gone
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Speaker 2: down to the wire. Legislation in the Senate to clean
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Speaker 2: up the CFBU as Labor refuses to outright ban donation
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Speaker 2: from the rogue Union or the latest coming up, and
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister accused of misleading the House over visa
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Speaker 2: security checks as e fudges one simple question after another.
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Speaker 2: The coalition zeroing in on immigration failures.
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Speaker 3: A serious suggestion about pausing an intake from a war
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Speaker 3: zone where there has clearly been seen that the government
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Speaker 3: hasn't had the appropriate checks to give everybody confidence.
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Speaker 4: When we're taking people from Syria and or Rack when
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Speaker 4: a Lamic state was roumpaging, when we're taking people from Afghanistan,
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Speaker 4: it's quite normal to make sure that you can guarantee
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Speaker 4: the safety of Australians by the people you can bring
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Speaker 4: into Australia.
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Speaker 5: What we have seen from the Albanese Labour government time
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Speaker 5: and time again is every time there is a national
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Speaker 5: security issue evolving immigration, they get it wrong.
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Speaker 2: But first accepting large numbers of possible hummas simple thighs
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Speaker 2: into Australia is becoming a major political crisis for the
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Speaker 2: alban Easy government.
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Speaker 6: Now, the first duty of government.
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Speaker 2: Is the safety of its own people. Yet how can
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Speaker 2: Australia be safe if thousands of people come here who
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Speaker 2: have been schooled from birth to think the Jews deserve
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Speaker 2: to die and that the Western world is evil.
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Speaker 6: This is the problem with.
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Speaker 2: Accepting anyone at all from Gaza right now. If there
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Speaker 2: is a need to take refugees, then that has to
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Speaker 2: happen in the usual orderly processes of government, with everyone
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Speaker 2: security checked by Australian officials face to face. But it's
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Speaker 2: not our job here in Australia to rescue everyone in
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Speaker 2: trouble across the globe, especially when Gaza's Muslim neighbors, Egypt, Jordan,
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Speaker 2: even Saudi Arabia are accepting no one, not a single
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Speaker 2: person from Gaza, at least in part because they don't
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Speaker 2: want any more potential Islamist terrorists in their own countries. Now,
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Speaker 2: if they're fellow Muslims, won't admit them to their countries
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Speaker 2: on security grounds, Why the heck should Australia. Right now,
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Speaker 2: we have no effective means of knowing whether gardens are
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Speaker 2: Hummas fighters, Hammas sympathizers, Hummas fundraisers, Hammas members, and polling
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Speaker 2: shows that roughly two thirds of Palestinians support Hamas and
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Speaker 2: think that October seven was just justified.
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Speaker 6: Now, let's recall for.
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Speaker 2: A moment the October seven atrocities when Hamas fighters didn't
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Speaker 2: just butcher more than twelve hundred Israeli innocence, but they
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Speaker 2: reveled in it. Here's one Hamas terrorist exalting on the
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Speaker 2: phone to his parents.
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Speaker 7: However, oh.
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Speaker 8: Joe, that's the wam'tted to bring down.
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Speaker 2: That's what roughly two thirds of guards and say they support,
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Speaker 2: And your prime minister wants to import that sort of
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Speaker 2: hate here he's already handed out around three thousand visas.
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Speaker 2: He's looking to admit thousands more and allow them to
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Speaker 2: stay here permanently. Now is this really in Australia's national interest?
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Speaker 6: See this for what it is.
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Speaker 2: It is visas for votes with a Panic's prime minister
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Speaker 2: now trying to say that all applications are checked against
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Speaker 2: a NASIO watch list. Now that is not a security
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Speaker 2: check and Albanezi knows it. All that's happening is names
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Speaker 2: get washed against a computed database. But if we are
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Speaker 2: not verifying the identities of any of these people, and
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Speaker 2: we're not, we can't because we don't have officials on
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Speaker 2: the ground.
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Speaker 6: Then all we can.
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Speaker 2: Check is the name they give us. Now, why would
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Speaker 2: any Hamas operative give Australia their real name?
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Speaker 6: This is madness.
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Speaker 2: In the nineteen seventies, out of misguided compassion, the Phraser
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Speaker 2: government admitted large numbers of Lebanese fleeing the civil war.
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Speaker 2: In many cases, that hasn't worked out that well for Australia.
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Speaker 2: With the issue of Middle Eastern crime, gangs a huge
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Speaker 2: one for law enforcement and admitting a large number of
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Speaker 2: Gazans now would be all of that on steroids. In
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Speaker 2: Parliament today, the government was unable to give guarantees that
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Speaker 2: every arrival from Gaza had been security checked.
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Speaker 9: In question time yesterday, the Prime Minister stated that people
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Speaker 9: applying for visas from the terrorist controlled Gaza war zone
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Speaker 9: were undergoing ASIO security assessments. Will the Prime Minister now
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Speaker 9: confirm that this is not accurate?
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Speaker 10: Of the more than twoy nine hundred people issued visas
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Speaker 10: from the terrorists controlled Gaza war zone, primarily let in
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Speaker 10: by the former Immigration Minister, the Member for Scullen, have
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Speaker 10: all of them been subjected to a biometric test and
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Speaker 10: an in person interview?
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Speaker 7: The question was have all of them?
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Speaker 11: Have all of them not one?
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Speaker 12: How many applicants have had their biometric data checked against
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Speaker 12: Israeli government records on known Hamas members or sympathizers and
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Speaker 12: those known or suspected to have participated on the seventh
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Speaker 12: of October terror attacks.
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Speaker 13: Were all the individuals referred to ASIO for security checks
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Speaker 13: or was it only where criteria are Hittaly?
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister accused the opposition of being destructive, negative
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Speaker 2: divisy and equally inevitably. Others went further.
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Speaker 14: These are families that you are seeking to paint that
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Speaker 14: somehow they are all terrorists and.
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Speaker 6: We hurt you in silence. You can hear me in silence.
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Speaker 7: Order stop being race.
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Speaker 2: The opposition talk about Labour's useful idiot. It's not divisive
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Speaker 2: to want to keep Australians safe. It's not racist to
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Speaker 2: demand security checks for people coming from a place that's
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Speaker 2: governed by a terror organization. Unless the government wakes up
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Speaker 2: to the fact that it's their duty to protect all Australians,
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Speaker 2: not just a handful of militants in its own seats,
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Speaker 2: then this is a government that is not fit for
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Speaker 2: office well the newss Liberal Party. They have cost the
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Speaker 2: Coalition federal elections before and unless urgent actions take and
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Speaker 2: history could easily repeat itself. Yesterday, the New South Wales
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Speaker 2: Division failed to meet the deadline to submit its candidate
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Speaker 2: nominations for New South Wales local government elections next month.
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Speaker 2: Now that means in places like Woollongong, the Northern Beaches
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Speaker 2: and Lane Cove there will be no Liberal candidates and
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Speaker 2: sitting Liberal counselors in all of these areas will now
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Speaker 2: lose their seats because the party didn't renominate them. Today,
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Speaker 2: the New south Wales Liberal leader Mark Speakman quite rightly
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Speaker 2: called for the State Director, Richard Shields, to resign over
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Speaker 2: this monumental failure of administration.
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Speaker 15: Following nominations should be a basic administrative procedure. This is
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Speaker 15: a matter of operational components. It is a matter for
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Speaker 15: the State Director. There is a need, i think for
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Speaker 15: the State dear Director to four he's sword and to
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Speaker 15: recognize as CEO. Stop stops with him.
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Speaker 6: But it's not just the State Director who's stuffed up.
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Speaker 2: And this isn't the first time that the New South
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Speaker 2: Wales Liberal organization.
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Speaker 6: Has let the country down.
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Speaker 2: Apparently the Liberal State Executive endorsed two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: candidates across thirty one local government areas, all.
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Speaker 6: At the last minute.
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Speaker 2: Now the excuses today claimed a lack of resources or
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Speaker 2: staffing to get the paperwork done, meaning that the party
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Speaker 2: president is at least as culpable as.
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Speaker 6: The state director.
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Speaker 2: Now that president is former New South Wales Minister Don Harwin,
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Speaker 2: a key factional player on the Liberal left. Now my view,
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Speaker 2: both Director and president must resign because if you don't
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Speaker 2: have the resources you need, you get them. And if
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Speaker 2: a state division can't do something as simil people as
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Speaker 2: large a few local council forms, they're not up to
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Speaker 2: the job and they need to clean out from the
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Speaker 2: top to the bottom. Now this is a point that
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Speaker 2: rightly Labor seized upon today in question time.
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Speaker 16: It's a pattern of chaos and mismanagement from those opposite.
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Speaker 16: How can they run a country when they can't even
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Speaker 16: get a nomination in Scott Bennison Well, current mayor of
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Speaker 16: Lane Cove, is about to be the former mecause Liberals
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Speaker 16: in pre selecting.
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Speaker 8: Now he's running.
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Speaker 17: He's an independent.
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Speaker 16: He said they probably should have been government. If they
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Speaker 16: can't get their forms in, they shouldn't manage anything.
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Speaker 2: They won't like that, but it's a fair cop I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is a catastrophic blunder and it's got to be
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Speaker 2: heartbreaking for the thousands of ordinary party members who volunteer.
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Speaker 6: Week in, week out.
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Speaker 2: And there are real echoes here of twenty ten, when
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Speaker 2: this division's failure to pre select candidates until the last
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Speaker 2: minute arguably cost Tanyavit a win in that election, an
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Speaker 2: election where if he had picked up just one more
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Speaker 2: seat he would have won and saved Australia from Julia
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Speaker 2: Gillard's disastrous hung parliament. It was also this division in
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Speaker 2: a factional stitch up before the twenty two federal election,
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Speaker 2: but saw some sitting federal MPs saved from pre selections
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Speaker 2: they were going to lose and Captain's picks shoehorned in
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Speaker 2: against the wishes of local branch members. Now, in truth,
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Speaker 2: the New South Wales divisions being dysfunctional for a long time.
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Speaker 6: It's riddled with factions.
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Speaker 2: Bad characters in high places routinely leak sensitive information, often
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Speaker 2: including confidential financial details. Branches have the power to exclude
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Speaker 2: new members if they aren't like them, so it's basically
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Speaker 2: a closed shop to protect factional warlords. It needs reform,
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Speaker 2: but I reckon the party itself in New South Wales
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Speaker 2: is beyond reforming. Last year a reform candidate lost the
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Speaker 2: presidency by one vote in a ballot that was marked
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Speaker 2: by irregularities. Under the Liberal Party's federal constitution, there can
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Speaker 2: be federal intervention in a state division where there is
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Speaker 2: I quote, the existence of circumstances which, in the opinion
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Speaker 2: of the Federal executive seriously prejudice the ability of the
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Speaker 2: party to contest and win a federal election. Now surely
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Speaker 2: we're at that point now. If they can't even lodge
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Speaker 2: a few forms for a local council ballot, I can
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Speaker 2: understand why Peter Dutton might be reluctant to intervene. But
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Speaker 2: right now the New South Wales Liberal Party has yet
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Speaker 2: to pre select candidates in a whole swag of seats
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Speaker 2: that Dutton must win back to defeat Labor. If you
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Speaker 2: can't govern yourselves, you can't govern the country. Meaning that
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Speaker 2: unless someone steps in and cleans up the mess that
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Speaker 2: is the New South Wales Liberals, it could easily cost
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Speaker 2: Dutton the election that Australia needs him to win. All right,
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Speaker 2: as I said, fiery day in Canberra, we'll go there
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Speaker 2: now for the headlines. Sky News political reporter Trudy Macintosh.
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Speaker 18: Peter Dutton has been branded racist and accused him in
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Speaker 18: flaming community tensions as he doubles down on his calls
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Speaker 18: for a gaza visa ban. It was a heated final
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Speaker 18: day of Parliament. From a confrontation in the corridors.
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Speaker 6: Mate say something about the children that are.
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Speaker 18: Being slaughter and in the chamber stop being race.
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Speaker 9: The opposition was an offensive and unparliamentary remarket it should
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Speaker 9: be withdrawn.
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Speaker 14: Is a description of language being racist and unparliamentary remarks.
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Speaker 9: When people who knows Alexa Stiegle know that she's really
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Speaker 9: agreen and they hold these extreme views.
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Speaker 18: The Opposition leader argues proper checks were not carried out
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Speaker 18: before bringing Palastineans to Australia.
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Speaker 9: I'm sure ninety nine percent of people are fine, but
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Speaker 9: if the one percent aren't, we're bringing in a security
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Speaker 9: risk to our country.
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Speaker 12: National security is too important for the sort of devisive
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Speaker 12: politics that those opposite are trying to play here.
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Speaker 9: This Prime Minister has no shame the made out country
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Speaker 9: less safe.
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Speaker 18: The unemployment rate has ticked up to four point two percent,
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Speaker 18: the highest rate since January twenty twenty two. More than
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Speaker 18: fifty eight thousand people found work in July, higher than
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Speaker 18: market expectations. The number of Australians so looking for work
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Speaker 18: also ticked up.
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Speaker 13: In a very soft economy, we are still creating tens
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Speaker 13: of thousands.
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Speaker 18: Of new jobs and the CFMEU stand off in the
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Speaker 18: Senate set to drag over the weekends. The governments so
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Speaker 18: far failing in its push to install administrators for the union.
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Speaker 8: Okay, it's time for something don.
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Speaker 17: Set this way.
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Speaker 18: Minister Murray Watt and the oppositions Michaulia Cash came close
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Speaker 18: to a deal. The remaining sticking points public hearings for
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Speaker 18: the administrator and the ban on political donations.
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Speaker 17: They say, trust us, we won't take them. Well guess what.
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Speaker 7: I don't trust you.
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Speaker 19: Can musn't be do something about it because they don't
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Speaker 19: refer to throw political sledges.
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Speaker 18: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News, Canberra.
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Speaker 2: I've had a lot to get through on this Thursday,
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Speaker 2: joined now by Sky News political reporter cam Reddan from
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Speaker 2: Canberra and the Deputy Director of the Institute of Public
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Speaker 2: Affairs Daniel Wild. Well, we'll start with the issue gents
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Speaker 2: that dominated Canberra again today.
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Speaker 6: This is the guards of visas.
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Speaker 2: These are people arriving from a war zone with inadequate
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Speaker 2: security checks.
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Speaker 6: Now you would have just.
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Speaker 2: Seen that racist barb thrown at Peter Dutton and now
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Speaker 2: during the day from Green's Senator Sarah Hanson.
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Speaker 17: Young, Peter Dutton is the leader of the Nasty Party.
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Speaker 14: It's trumpion, it's despicable and it needs to be called out.
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Speaker 17: May you say something.
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Speaker 6: About the children that are being slaughter.
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Speaker 2: Daniel you know they're pretty desperate when they pull out
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Speaker 2: the racist card. These people are not being scrutinized because
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Speaker 2: of their race, but they're being scrutinized because of legitimate
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Speaker 2: security risk. They're coming out of a war zone. We
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Speaker 2: don't know who the hell they are, and the barbarians
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Speaker 2: that run the government in Gaza are a listed terror organization.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I know where Australians stand here,
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Speaker 2: and it's more strength to Dutton's arm.
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Speaker 6: I reckon, Well, that's right, Peter.
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Speaker 19: I think what Peter Dutton has been saying is what
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Speaker 19: mainstream Australians are thinking.
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Speaker 17: And you're right.
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Speaker 19: When they pull the racist card or when they pull
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Speaker 19: the Trump card, you know that they're not interested in
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Speaker 19: a debate. What's interesting, Peter, when you look at Zalie
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Speaker 19: Stegel in her electorate, the most recent Australian Bureau of
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Speaker 19: Statistic census data shows that only eighteen individuals in her
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Speaker 19: electorate are from the Gaza West Bank area out of
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Speaker 19: one hundred and fifty thousand who are in her electorate.
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Speaker 19: So maybe Zari Stegel has put her hand up to
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Speaker 19: accommodate more of those individuals. I don't know, but if
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Speaker 19: she hasn't, then why not. You know, this is another
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Speaker 19: example of the inner city elites sneering at mainstream Australians.
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Speaker 6: And who want to impose the costs of.
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Speaker 19: Their virtue signaling onto mainstream Australians. We've seen this, for
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Speaker 19: example with Zari Stegel with net zero. There's no wind
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Speaker 19: turbines in Wullringa, but she's happy for them to be
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Speaker 19: dumped on regional Australians across prime farmland. So I think
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Speaker 19: what Australians expect is for our political leaders to take
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Speaker 19: this seriously and to debate it seriously. And I think
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Speaker 19: that full marks for Peter Dutton for engaging in this
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Speaker 19: very serious issue.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to this with a Liberal
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Speaker 2: front bencher or National Party front benchure in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But let's go now to the other issue that was
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Speaker 2: making headlines out at Canberra, particularly out of the Senate.
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Speaker 2: This is the CFMEU legislation we just saw there in
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Speaker 2: the package. It has not yet gone through the Parliament.
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Speaker 2: There's a war of war words between Labor and the
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Speaker 2: Coalition because Labor refuses to block donations from this union
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Speaker 2: and as you just saw there, they also in appointing
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Speaker 2: an administrator. Want every hearing to happen behind closed doors.
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Speaker 6: What's the latest here.
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Speaker 20: Cam, Yeah, this will get done, Peter. It won't be today,
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Speaker 20: but there will be back to the negotiating table next week.
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Speaker 20: The two sides are about ninety five percent there, and
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Speaker 20: as we've been reporting today, Labor has bent this bill
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Speaker 20: into all sorts of ways to try and get the
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Speaker 20: coalition on board. There have been a number of serious
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Speaker 20: concessions on things like life bans for officials from the union.
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Speaker 20: Labor had been fighting that tooth and nail. It's not
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Speaker 20: really in the dna of what the party wants in legislation,
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Speaker 20: but they're willing to allow that. In order to get
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Speaker 20: this through. The coalition put forward a list of twenty
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Speaker 20: changes that it wanted. We're seventeen down. There's three more
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Speaker 20: still to go. Those holdouts, as you mentioned, things like
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Speaker 20: public hearings, so getting the administrator at Senate estimates essentially
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Speaker 20: to answer questions to provide updates. The coalition wants that.
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Speaker 20: Labour yet to cave on that. There's the issue too
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Speaker 20: of the period of time for administration. So the coalition
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Speaker 20: says it should be a minimum of three years and
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Speaker 20: as long as it takes to clean the union up.
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Speaker 20: Labour wants a maximum of five. The issue of donations
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Speaker 20: is still lingering as well, where Labour says we won't
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Speaker 20: take donations from the CFMEU, but Kaylie Cash in the
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Speaker 20: opposition say no, we want them not to be able
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Speaker 20: to give donations and they want that in law. So
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Speaker 20: somebody will blink on those issues eventually. It hasn't happened today.
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Speaker 20: The Government tried to ram it through at three o'clock
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Speaker 20: to now avail. They'll be back to the negotiating table
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Speaker 20: next week, so we'll see what the final carve up
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Speaker 20: looks like.
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Speaker 2: I worked to the Senate for ten years and the
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Speaker 2: Howard Air, and of course what happens sometimes things are
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Speaker 2: drafted deliberately with a lot of asks in there, knowing
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Speaker 2: that you've got to throw something on the table in
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Speaker 2: the Senate. So I think that's where that low hanging
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Speaker 2: fruit was given to the opposition and then they say
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Speaker 2: the Opposition is playing funny buggers by not passing it.
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Speaker 6: But I think it's non negotiable. In my view.
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Speaker 2: Public hearings have got to be held. Australians need to
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Speaker 2: know what's going on with this union given the housing crisis,
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Speaker 2: and how can labors say that it's a reprehensible behavior
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Speaker 2: by the union but still under the table take the
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Speaker 2: money fro an election donation. I think that's where the
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Speaker 2: coalition will fight this and labor, of course, Cam they
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Speaker 2: want this off the agenda.
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Speaker 6: They want this to go away.
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Speaker 2: We saw today too, Dan, there's pressure across into some
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Speaker 2: of these industry funds. Sea bus SeaBus is under pressure,
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Speaker 2: aren't they.
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Speaker 19: Well, they are under pressure. There's a very strong argument
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Speaker 19: to limit or remove the ability to appoint union officials
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Speaker 19: to the boards of these funds. And I think that's
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Speaker 19: a pretty strong argument when you look at the amount
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Speaker 19: of influence that industry super funds have across our economy.
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Speaker 19: And I know this is an issue you've written about
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Speaker 19: a lot, Peter, which is the amount of economic and
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Speaker 19: financial control that's being exerted by superannuation funds investing sometimes
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Speaker 19: in projects that are not in the interests of retirees,
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Speaker 19: that are not in the interests of workers who is
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Speaker 19: money it is, but investing in political or ideologically based
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Speaker 19: projects such as net zero such as you know so
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Speaker 19: called build to rent, which is making it harder for
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Speaker 19: people to buy houses instead of getting them to rent
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Speaker 19: in apartments. So I think there's a big cleanup that
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Speaker 19: needs to happen in superannuation funds and in particular the
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Speaker 19: union dominated ones.
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Speaker 6: Let's go to Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Now, Kalia Tink's a bid to save her North Sydney
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Speaker 2: Sea from being abolished by the Electoral Commission has found
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Speaker 2: support in fellow till I call them Gucci Greens Zalie Stegel,
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Speaker 2: but they're now both at odds with a fellow TiAl
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Speaker 2: Gucci Green Sophie Scamps who would become the real loser
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Speaker 2: in any proposed redistribution amendments pushed by push by Stegel.
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Speaker 2: There testing loyalties, Cam and it matters because if we
21:51
Speaker 2: end up with a hung Parliament, it may not be
21:54
Speaker 2: the usual suspects the activist Greens call the shots.
21:57
Speaker 6: It could be these women. So when do you think
21:59
Speaker 6: this is going to land? Yeah?
22:02
Speaker 20: This does matter, Peter.
22:03
Speaker 17: Look, I guess it.
22:04
Speaker 20: Goes to show it doesn't matter what your political stripes are.
22:06
Speaker 20: All politicians are territorial to some extend, and it doesn't
22:09
Speaker 20: matter who your mates are. If your electorates the one
22:11
Speaker 20: in the gun Kylie Tink's going to fight this all
22:13
Speaker 20: the way with the AAEC. She's unlikely to win. The
22:16
Speaker 20: Electoral Commissions determined to get rid of one seat in
22:18
Speaker 20: New South Wales. She's the unlucky one there, Higgins in Victoria,
22:21
Speaker 20: and make a new one in Wa as well. That's
22:23
Speaker 20: more or less where they've landed. They might move on
22:26
Speaker 20: a suburb here or there, but they seem pretty settled
22:28
Speaker 20: on the seats that are going to go, so that'll
22:30
Speaker 20: all be locked in in October. I think the big
22:32
Speaker 20: question for Kylie Tink now, Peter, is what does she
22:35
Speaker 20: do next. She's ruled out running against Sally Stegel in
22:38
Speaker 20: Waringa in a sort of Teal on teal contest if
22:41
Speaker 20: you like. She's ruled that out, but has shown some
22:44
Speaker 20: interest in Bradfield, the other neighboring seat, which is of
22:46
Speaker 20: course held by Paul Fletcher, because large sections of her seat,
22:50
Speaker 20: the Teal sections, really are going to be absorbed into
22:53
Speaker 20: Bradfield at the next election. The one complicating factor for
22:56
Speaker 20: that is you've had for some years now Nicolett Buller,
22:59
Speaker 20: who ran as a teer at the.
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Speaker 17: Last election and just lost.
23:02
Speaker 20: She's been calling herself the shadow member for Bradfield for
23:04
Speaker 20: some time. Not a real thing, but that's what she's
23:06
Speaker 20: been saying.
23:07
Speaker 21: Kylie.
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Speaker 20: A Tieck hasn't ruled out running in Bradfield, so whether
23:10
Speaker 20: that's a complication we will see. But it looks like
23:13
Speaker 20: her seats all but gone, and what she decides to
23:15
Speaker 20: do next we'll find out in October.
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Speaker 9: Not long to wait.
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, I don't think any movement from
23:21
Speaker 2: the AEC on any of those changes will occur.
23:24
Speaker 6: Thank you both for the update.
23:26
Speaker 2: All right, let's go now to that extraordinary blunder out
23:29
Speaker 2: of the New South Wales Liberal Party that we brought
23:31
Speaker 2: to you last night. The party's head office has failed
23:34
Speaker 2: to nominate as many as one hundred and forty candidates
23:36
Speaker 2: for council elections by the cutoff date, in a debicle
23:40
Speaker 2: that could cost more than forty city councilors their jobs.
23:43
Speaker 2: For more on these, I'm joined by the Daily Telegraphs
23:46
Speaker 2: reporter James willis Well. James, I've worked inside Liberal Party
23:51
Speaker 2: machines for almost two decades. I don't think I've ever
23:54
Speaker 2: seen this level of incompetence. What went wrong? What are
24:00
Speaker 2: the excuses they're trying on?
24:03
Speaker 7: Well, Peter, this is school prefect stuff.
24:05
Speaker 22: And there's a great irony here because what happened is
24:10
Speaker 22: the last council elections and at the federal and state
24:15
Speaker 22: most recent elections, we were led to believe that no
24:17
Speaker 22: one would run for the Liberal Party. It was impossible
24:20
Speaker 22: to pre select candidates. There were simply seats that weren't
24:23
Speaker 22: worth running and or no.
24:23
Speaker 7: One wanted to put their head up for the job.
24:26
Speaker 22: What's happened is there's been an influx of people saying
24:29
Speaker 22: I'll run for the Liberal Party, one hundred more candidates
24:32
Speaker 22: than the last council elections in twenty twenty one. And
24:35
Speaker 22: the Liberal Party state executive who are tasked was screening
24:38
Speaker 22: these people, doing the paperwork, ticking all that off, keep
24:41
Speaker 22: in wine, they've had three years to put all this together,
24:43
Speaker 22: got to this week and realized that they had missed
24:47
Speaker 22: the deadline for the new South Wales Electoral Commission to
24:51
Speaker 22: allow these people to go into the role. And as
24:53
Speaker 22: a result, as you say, one hundred and forty candidates
24:56
Speaker 22: miss out and more than forty acting counselors South Wales
25:00
Speaker 22: councils will be ineligible to run again.
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Speaker 7: It is a fiasco. It could be one of the
25:05
Speaker 7: worst things you've heard from.
25:06
Speaker 22: A leading political party anywhere in this country for a
25:08
Speaker 22: very long time.
25:12
Speaker 2: The state Liberal leader there, Mark Speakman today and I
25:15
Speaker 2: played a little grab of what he had to say,
25:17
Speaker 2: has labeled everything you and I call it. I mean
25:20
Speaker 2: it is utterly incompetent. You cannot defend it. He wants
25:24
Speaker 2: to see the party's campaign director, Richard Shields, fall on
25:27
Speaker 2: his sword and resign. But others are saying to me,
25:31
Speaker 2: don't just go after Shields. And they're not trying to
25:33
Speaker 2: defend Shields. They say, don't just go after Shields. You
25:36
Speaker 2: need to understand, Peter, that the party president, Don Harwin,
25:41
Speaker 2: he put his hand up and said he was going
25:42
Speaker 2: to run this process.
25:43
Speaker 6: Now. Is that what you're hearing? Is that accurate?
25:48
Speaker 22: Well, if it was a publicly listed company, Peter, the
25:51
Speaker 22: CEO and chairman would have gone by now. And that
25:54
Speaker 22: is Harwin and Shields. I'm of the view that both
25:57
Speaker 22: of them have to go. But I would note that
25:59
Speaker 22: in the last half an hour Richard Shields has put
26:02
Speaker 22: out a very interesting statement where he says, my focus
26:06
Speaker 22: has been on the federal election candidates. To maintain the focus,
26:10
Speaker 22: Don Harwin volunteered to run the local government nomination process.
26:15
Speaker 7: I had full trusty deliver.
26:16
Speaker 22: This state Executive completed the final party in.
26:19
Speaker 7: Daorsement as the latest ten am on.
26:21
Speaker 22: The fourteenth of August, two hours before the close of nomination.
26:25
Speaker 22: So Richard Shields is digging in, he's refusing to resign
26:29
Speaker 22: and in his mind he was focusing on the next
26:31
Speaker 22: federal election. It was left up to Don Harwin who
26:34
Speaker 22: volunteered to get these candidates screened, and as a result,
26:38
Speaker 22: Don didn't do the job.
26:42
Speaker 6: Well if that's accurate.
26:43
Speaker 2: It also I think impacts the broader executive because they
26:47
Speaker 2: would know the timetable, they would know that they're having
26:50
Speaker 2: a meeting on the hours before deadlines. I think there's
26:53
Speaker 2: a lot of blame to go around, and a lot
26:54
Speaker 2: of head should roll on me. I don't think this
26:56
Speaker 2: is something that could be swept under the carpet and
26:59
Speaker 2: just excused cannet.
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Speaker 7: No, that's right.
27:01
Speaker 22: And look, I lost faith in the state executive a
27:04
Speaker 22: long time ago. I know there's been some changes there,
27:06
Speaker 22: but the people that are in charge of the new
27:08
Speaker 22: direction of the Liberal Party and with reviews and everything
27:11
Speaker 22: else have failed on too many occasions, and this is
27:14
Speaker 22: a prime example of that. But there was a meeting
27:16
Speaker 22: about two weeks ago where this was raised repeatedly by
27:20
Speaker 22: a number of State executive members. My understanding is both
27:24
Speaker 22: Richard Shields and Don Harwin were quite angry in this meeting.
27:27
Speaker 22: Don Harwin saw it as a personal attack on the
27:30
Speaker 22: staff that were trying to get these candidates screened through.
27:34
Speaker 22: But the alarm bells were ringing on this one, Peter.
27:37
Speaker 22: But you know, it is an absolute fiasco and there's
27:39
Speaker 22: a wider issue at play here.
27:41
Speaker 7: I mean, local.
27:41
Speaker 22: Government elections are one thing, and whether you take an
27:44
Speaker 22: interest in that or not, but this was a real
27:46
Speaker 22: test of Chris Mins's housing, the dense housing popular policy
27:51
Speaker 22: around trains and transport, where he wants to go high
27:55
Speaker 22: rise at twenty different sites across Sydney.
27:57
Speaker 7: This was a key litmus test for that.
28:00
Speaker 22: And we won't even have liberals on the ballot to
28:02
Speaker 22: decide whether people don't like it or not.
28:05
Speaker 2: And look, we can also see what's happening with these
28:07
Speaker 2: gars emotions at local council level. I mean, I think
28:10
Speaker 2: it's a hotbed for the activist movement. It's where they
28:13
Speaker 2: get their name recognition up, it's where they blood them
28:15
Speaker 2: before they then go into state and federal politics. And
28:18
Speaker 2: just on the federal politics point, I made the point
28:21
Speaker 2: back in twenty ten there were a litany of failures.
28:24
Speaker 2: I mean they were pre selecting candidates on the day
28:27
Speaker 2: the election was called in twenty ten.
28:30
Speaker 6: I argue with anyone who can.
28:32
Speaker 2: Read the polls and the results out of New South
28:35
Speaker 2: Wales will tell you it costs Tony Abbott seats out
28:39
Speaker 2: of New South Wales that if he had one one
28:41
Speaker 2: more seat nationally, there would have never been a Gillard government.
28:45
Speaker 2: There would never have been a hung parliament. I mean
28:47
Speaker 2: this state New South Wales party division has formed, I
28:52
Speaker 2: mean it has been moribund for well over a decade
28:56
Speaker 2: and a half. There's got to be absolute come to
29:00
Speaker 2: Jesus moment out of this tonight.
29:02
Speaker 20: Yeah.
29:02
Speaker 22: And I thought the most unhelpful comment was Mark Speakman
29:05
Speaker 22: today who.
29:06
Speaker 7: Blamed Richard Shields.
29:08
Speaker 22: But I thought curiously and in my view, deliberately didn't
29:12
Speaker 22: mention Don Harwin. His factional ally, the moderate faction of
29:17
Speaker 22: the Liberal Party has a lot to answer for.
29:19
Speaker 7: Don Harwin is from that faction. Mark's Speakman is from
29:22
Speaker 7: that faction. The Deputy Leader Natalie Ward is from that faction.
29:25
Speaker 22: They seem to be throwing Richard Shields under the bus,
29:28
Speaker 22: the Conservative side of the party clearly saying we'll hang on,
29:30
Speaker 22: have a look at Don. Don was in charge of this,
29:33
Speaker 22: he volunteered to do it. This could be Don's mess
29:36
Speaker 22: as much as it is Richard's. But in my view,
29:38
Speaker 22: as I said before, if it was a publicly listed company,
29:41
Speaker 22: both would go.
29:44
Speaker 6: Spot on. James Willis thank you.
29:47
Speaker 2: Worry there for Peter Dutton, isn't it because he is
29:49
Speaker 2: the next cab off the rank in terms of elections
29:51
Speaker 2: and if New South Wales hasn't got his house in order,
29:54
Speaker 2: it's about the only place where Labour's chasing seats to
29:57
Speaker 2: survive or at after break, Zally Stagger doubles down on
30:01
Speaker 2: her racism slur against Peter Dutton plus another Ivy League
30:05
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian president bites the dust Here in Australia at
30:09
Speaker 2: the anu Our University chiefs are capitulating to the protest
30:14
Speaker 2: lobby and the Labour staff for accusing her former MP
30:17
Speaker 2: boss of rape. Speaks out, well, the back still to come.
30:25
Speaker 2: The cost of getting too a GP increases again under
30:28
Speaker 2: the Albanese government. But first one day on from Peter
30:31
Speaker 2: Dutton's common sense call to halt arrivals coming out of
30:35
Speaker 2: Gaza until this Labor government can actually guarantee that adequate
30:40
Speaker 2: security checks are actually being done well already, then the accusations.
30:45
Speaker 6: Of racism have started up. Now.
30:48
Speaker 2: That's despite the reality that out in the suburbs, as
30:51
Speaker 2: the latest resolve Pol shows US, forty six percent of
30:54
Speaker 2: Australians say they feel less safe here since the war
30:58
Speaker 2: broke out. What is Labour think will happen to that
31:02
Speaker 2: when more Palestinians are admitted. We already know that there's
31:06
Speaker 2: concern about events in the Middle East, but it contributed
31:10
Speaker 2: to the increase in Australia's terror threat level. What more
31:14
Speaker 2: evidence does the government need that without checks we simply
31:18
Speaker 2: can't admit anyone from an active war zone. For more
31:22
Speaker 2: on these, let's bring in the leader of the Nationals
31:24
Speaker 2: in the Senate, Bridget McKenzie. Well, Bridget, thank you for
31:27
Speaker 2: your time. Let's start with these accusations against Peter Dutton,
31:31
Speaker 2: that this is all motivated by violence, sorry, by racism.
31:36
Speaker 2: My colleague Andrew Clanell followed up on this claim with
31:39
Speaker 2: Zalie Stegel this afternoon and she wasn't backing down and.
31:43
Speaker 1: Have a listen, Okay, yes or no? Do you think
31:46
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton's a racist?
31:48
Speaker 14: I think he is crondining racist policies.
31:50
Speaker 1: So do you think he's a racist by association?
31:52
Speaker 14: Yes?
31:53
Speaker 22: Okay?
31:53
Speaker 1: And Mike Burgess has warned about inflammatory language by politicians.
31:57
Speaker 1: Surely your statements in the same category calling the opposition
32:01
Speaker 1: leader a racist, I mean that's that's stirring up a lot,
32:04
Speaker 1: isn't it.
32:05
Speaker 14: Well, except where in an extraordinary situation where a person
32:08
Speaker 14: behaving in a racist way should be condumned should be
32:12
Speaker 14: allowed to do so, but a person calling out that
32:14
Speaker 14: poor behavior should should be should be reprimanded.
32:19
Speaker 2: This is this is a serious claim for her to
32:21
Speaker 2: make against another parliamentarian.
32:25
Speaker 23: Absolutely, Peter, and it's an appalling claim. Peter Dutton is
32:29
Speaker 23: not a racist. And for Zali Segel to continue to
32:34
Speaker 23: double down on this language I think plays exactly into
32:38
Speaker 23: the issues the Director General of ASIO, Mister Burgess was
32:41
Speaker 23: outlining for all of us in leadership roles as members
32:44
Speaker 23: of Parliament to actually not be stirring up hatred and
32:49
Speaker 23: violence and aggression.
32:51
Speaker 17: And by calling the leader of the Opposition.
32:54
Speaker 23: A racist, that is exactly what she's doing, and was
32:58
Speaker 23: followed by Senator Antsy Young from the Greens claiming the
33:02
Speaker 23: Leader of the Nationals was somehow silent on.
33:05
Speaker 17: The slaughter of babies.
33:06
Speaker 23: And it's this sort of violent, aggressive rhetoric which actually
33:12
Speaker 23: makes the political discourse really really.
33:14
Speaker 17: Hard to go forward.
33:16
Speaker 23: At the end of the day, what Peter Dutton is
33:19
Speaker 23: calling for, what we in the Coalition are calling for,
33:21
Speaker 23: is a sensible pause to bringing in refugees from Gaza
33:27
Speaker 23: from a war zone without appropriate checks. Now we didn't
33:30
Speaker 23: do that in government, and we've had a whole week
33:33
Speaker 23: where the Prime Minister has been verbaling the dj from
33:37
Speaker 23: Azeo saying basically that they are guaranteeing they're getting all
33:42
Speaker 23: the checks right. Well, it wasn't what Maury Watt said
33:44
Speaker 23: when he was asked a very similar question in the Senate.
33:48
Speaker 23: So the PM has misled the Parliament, he's misleading the
33:53
Speaker 23: broader community by continuing to say that he's running the
33:57
Speaker 23: same process as we did because it's not true. Is
34:00
Speaker 23: breaching his own ministerial code of conduct that he set
34:03
Speaker 23: down in June twenty two, which talks about ministers having
34:08
Speaker 23: to be honest and upfront and if they commit an
34:11
Speaker 23: error to fix it and update the Australian public in
34:14
Speaker 23: the Parliament as soon as practical, and he's refused to
34:18
Speaker 23: do that.
34:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember very vividly what happened the last time
34:23
Speaker 2: he took in a big cohort from Syria.
34:25
Speaker 6: I was there working for Tony Abbott.
34:26
Speaker 2: That it was twelve thousand or so that came in
34:30
Speaker 2: the government. Now Labor is trying to say that what
34:32
Speaker 2: we are doing now with people out of Gaza is
34:35
Speaker 2: exactly the same as what Tony Abbot did for He
34:38
Speaker 2: was on the program last night and I asked him
34:40
Speaker 2: that specific question, and here's what Tony Abbott said.
34:45
Speaker 21: People who came at that time were actually Christians from
34:49
Speaker 21: the Middle East. And second, we had our officials on
34:54
Speaker 21: the ground who went through and carefully vetted all of
34:58
Speaker 21: those arrivals. It is simply impossible to do security checks
35:03
Speaker 21: on people in Gaza.
35:08
Speaker 2: But want people at home to understand this. People were
35:12
Speaker 2: repatriated to a third country. They were checked there on
35:16
Speaker 2: the ground by Australian officials. We checked the identity, the
35:19
Speaker 2: name that they gave us, We checked the paperwork, We
35:21
Speaker 2: did biometrics, so blood, DNA, fingerprinting, all that sort of testing.
35:26
Speaker 2: We then looked on databases with the information of their
35:29
Speaker 2: real name, not just the name they told us. And
35:32
Speaker 2: then and only then do they get a visa to Australia. Now,
35:35
Speaker 2: what's happening here is the Muhammad fronts up with a
35:39
Speaker 2: piece of paper from the Palestinian authorities saying that that
35:42
Speaker 2: is his real name or we can't check that. There's
35:46
Speaker 2: no biometric testing. We're not in a third country with
35:49
Speaker 2: Australian officials. He comes here on a short term visitors visa.
35:55
Speaker 2: We might run the name Mohammad through the system. There's
35:57
Speaker 2: no red flag. We don't know if that his real name.
36:01
Speaker 2: And of course, while he is here, Tony Burk's under
36:04
Speaker 2: pressure from locals. It is electorate to give Mohammed a
36:07
Speaker 2: permanent visa to stay in Australia forever.
36:11
Speaker 6: I think Australians need.
36:12
Speaker 2: To understand what's being done before and what's not being
36:17
Speaker 2: done today.
36:20
Speaker 17: Yeah, Peter, you're dead right.
36:22
Speaker 23: I mean, being able to live in Australia is like
36:24
Speaker 23: you've won the golden ticket to Charlie and the chocolate factory.
36:29
Speaker 23: People want to live here with social cohesion. We're safe
36:36
Speaker 23: a very equal opportunity here. For if you can actually
36:39
Speaker 23: get to Australia. So it is very competitive, and we
36:43
Speaker 23: have people prepared to lie, prepared to get on boats,
36:46
Speaker 23: prepared to do all the things you spoke about in
36:49
Speaker 23: order to get through. We don't have an embassy in Gaza.
36:53
Speaker 23: With the Syrian refugees, we took them to a third country,
36:56
Speaker 23: biometric testing, etc. Similarly with the Afghan refugees, because we
37:02
Speaker 23: had to make sure that we weren't actually importing conflict
37:07
Speaker 23: from another area and denigrating our social cohesion here at
37:11
Speaker 23: more at home, we needed to make sure that the
37:14
Speaker 23: people we were bringing in were going to actually contribute
37:18
Speaker 23: to our country, not break our country apart. And I
37:22
Speaker 23: think we're very confident in what we did as a government.
37:27
Speaker 23: And for the Prime Minister to somehow suggest all week
37:30
Speaker 23: that they're running these people out of Gaza, the three
37:34
Speaker 23: thousand that have already been granted visas through some sort
37:38
Speaker 23: of process is laughable because they're not. Other ministers are
37:42
Speaker 23: refusing to guarantee that these individuals have gone.
37:45
Speaker 17: Through essentially a character test.
37:48
Speaker 23: Do you sympathize with humas If you do, we don't
37:51
Speaker 23: want you here. And that should be kind of like
37:55
Speaker 23: a basic requirement and it's very easy if you aren't
37:59
Speaker 23: going through those checks and balances, to actually import conflicts
38:04
Speaker 23: from far away onto the suburban streets of our capital cities.
38:08
Speaker 17: And further deteriorate our communities.
38:14
Speaker 2: But did I think you know where the ordinary Australian
38:17
Speaker 2: sits on this issue? And I think they'd be saying.
38:19
Speaker 17: Absolutely thank you, Peter.
38:23
Speaker 6: We will good.
38:23
Speaker 2: Weekend all right after the Raak, After the rak more
38:27
Speaker 2: on Labour's great immigration con plus the former staff are
38:30
Speaker 2: allegedly raped by the dump Victorian Labor MP Will Fowls, Well,
38:34
Speaker 2: she's spoken out. I'll discuss that a bit later on
38:37
Speaker 2: in the show. Welcome back claims of a double standard
38:44
Speaker 2: at play when it comes to the sexual assault allegations
38:47
Speaker 2: against a former Labor MP.
38:50
Speaker 6: I'll have more on that in.
38:51
Speaker 2: A moment, But first, amidst all the political mudslinging that's
38:54
Speaker 2: come with a revelation that our security agencies are not
38:58
Speaker 2: checking every visa entry from Gaza entrant from Gaza, it
39:02
Speaker 2: might be easy to overlook the community most at risk
39:05
Speaker 2: from escalating tensions, and that's, of course Jewish Australians. This
39:09
Speaker 2: week's brought into sharp focus the political reality the Labour's
39:13
Speaker 2: call between votes and electrics like Watson and Blaxland and
39:17
Speaker 2: managing Australia's national security. But this has been an issue
39:20
Speaker 2: for the Jewish community a lot longer than just before
39:24
Speaker 2: October seven. Join me now to discuss this. President of
39:27
Speaker 2: the Australian Jewish Association, Dr David Adler. David, thank you
39:31
Speaker 2: for your time. I mean you've written beautifully in The
39:35
Speaker 2: Spectator today about how Labour's retrick before the election to
39:41
Speaker 2: your community just doesn't align with what's happened since they've
39:45
Speaker 2: got into office. Take my viewers through what you've had
39:49
Speaker 2: to say.
39:51
Speaker 24: Well, Peter, great to join you and thank you so
39:53
Speaker 24: much for giving my article a plug online now in
39:57
Speaker 24: the next print edition of the Spectator magazine. Basically, the
40:01
Speaker 24: theme is that the Jewish community has to face an
40:05
Speaker 24: uncomfortable truth, and that is that we were conned. Prior
40:09
Speaker 24: to the last election. We were repeatedly assured by the
40:13
Speaker 24: Labor Party that there was bipartisan policy when it came
40:17
Speaker 24: to Israel and Jewish community matters. And as soon as
40:21
Speaker 24: the election was over, policy shifts started to occur and
40:27
Speaker 24: to our dismay accelerated after the seventh of October and
40:32
Speaker 24: the article details those and I actually put the case
40:37
Speaker 24: that Labor is serving the extremist, gie hardist type supporters
40:46
Speaker 24: more than the national interest of Australia and the community
40:50
Speaker 24: of Australia. It might sound like a pretty harsh assessment,
40:53
Speaker 24: but people can read the list of policy shifts and
41:00
Speaker 24: draw their own conclusion. But Peter, allow me this indulgence,
41:04
Speaker 24: because one of the themes running through your show and
41:07
Speaker 24: indeed debate today has been an allegation that Peter Dutton
41:12
Speaker 24: is racist. This is an absolute nonsense. All he's been
41:18
Speaker 24: talking about is important security issues. But it's also nonsense
41:23
Speaker 24: from a technical point of view, because we're talking about
41:27
Speaker 24: people from Gaza or Arab Palestinians. Now, the races in
41:33
Speaker 24: the region that are relevant are Jewish people and Arabs,
41:37
Speaker 24: and he is not proposing a ban on Arabs. He's
41:41
Speaker 24: not proposing a ban, say on people from Saudi Arabia
41:45
Speaker 24: or the UAE. He's being very, very focused, as he
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Speaker 24: needs to be, and to say that it's racist is
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Speaker 24: either ignorant or malicious. Ghazans or Arab Palestinians are no
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Speaker 24: more a race than saying Victorians or say Canberians are
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Speaker 24: a distinct race. It's just a nonsense.
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Speaker 6: It's a political tactic, David.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Zali steggle there was running interference
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Speaker 2: for labor. They've had three days of really terrible headlines
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Speaker 2: on this issue. They've been mired in immigration problems for
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Speaker 2: now months and months and months. I think they thought
42:27
Speaker 2: the reshuffle would give them clear air. But he's not
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Speaker 2: saying security check Salmon, not others, and choosing those people
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Speaker 2: by race. He's saying security check all of them because
42:38
Speaker 2: they're coming from a war zone. Now, if Zali Stegel
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Speaker 2: doesn't think that is good practice, then she's letting down
42:45
Speaker 2: all Australians.
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Speaker 6: I want to get a.
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Speaker 2: Comment from you just this after her news is broken
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Speaker 2: that the president of Columbia University this obviously is in
42:53
Speaker 2: the US minush Chefik. She has stepped down after the
42:57
Speaker 2: ongoing protests over the war. Columbia, of course, is one
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Speaker 2: of those Ivy League schools that were really in the
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Speaker 2: gun when they tolerated those horrific anti Semitic protests. She's
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Speaker 2: now the third of those high profile Ivy League university
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Speaker 2: presidents to fall on their sword.
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Speaker 6: Any surprises, David, Well.
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Speaker 24: Obviously it's not a surprise, and of course the Jewish
43:24
Speaker 24: people are known for being generous philanthropists, including for the
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Speaker 24: funding of universities, and I suspect that a number of
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Speaker 24: prominent donors turned the tap off and maybe this accelerated
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Speaker 24: or forced her demise. But I think there's a big
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Speaker 24: lesson here for Australian universities. The administrators of some of
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Speaker 24: our prominent universities, and I will call out universities like
43:54
Speaker 24: the University of Sydney and the University of Adelaide, they
43:58
Speaker 24: have not been a effective at all in dealing with
44:02
Speaker 24: the explosion of anti Semitism on their campuses. And we
44:07
Speaker 24: have a Minister for Education who ultimately is responsible, Jason Claire,
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Speaker 24: and become full circle on the motives. Jason Clair's electorate
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Speaker 24: has a very large Muslim voting constituency. I think it's
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Speaker 24: around the thirty percent, and maybe that explains the inaction
44:29
Speaker 24: in Australia because my goodness, it's become toxic. We're looking
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Speaker 24: forward to the Senate inquiry. Hopefully that will eventuate, and
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Speaker 24: all credit to Sarah Henderson and Julian Lisa for pushing it,
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Speaker 24: because some of the heads of our universities really need
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Speaker 24: to roll on this issue as well, just like they.
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Speaker 6: Have in the States.
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Speaker 2: David Adler, thank you after the break to serious allegation
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Speaker 2: against the Victorian Labor MP that you probably haven't heard about.
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Speaker 2: More on that shortly, plus why parents need to say
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Speaker 2: no to kids on devices with the link between devices
45:10
Speaker 2: and mental health growing. All right, let's get straight into
45:17
Speaker 2: my panel. Spectator contributor Terry Barnes joins me and senior writer,
45:21
Speaker 2: columnist and author for The Herald.
45:23
Speaker 6: Sun, Patrick Carline. Let's start with this issue.
45:26
Speaker 2: A former political staffer who last year alleged she'd been
45:29
Speaker 2: raped by the exiled Victorian Labor MP Will Fowls says
45:33
Speaker 2: the justice system is failing alleged to victims. The woman's
45:37
Speaker 2: complained led to Fowls resigning from Labor and the matter
45:40
Speaker 2: being referred to Victoria Police. Now he was arrested and interviewed,
45:44
Speaker 2: but no charges have been laid and were told the
45:47
Speaker 2: case then closed. Fowls denies the allegations and continues as
45:52
Speaker 2: the member for Ringwood now sitting as an independent. Patrick,
45:57
Speaker 2: really serious allegations. I can't help but juxtaposed the media's
46:02
Speaker 2: attention on the Britney Higgins allocations between two staffers, and
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Speaker 2: this one the allegations with a significant power in balance
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Speaker 2: between an MP and a staffer, but very little media scrutiny.
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Speaker 25: Look, I think this has been treated more traditionally. If
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Speaker 25: you like, you had an allegation last August, you had
46:21
Speaker 25: a denial, you had a police investigation which led to
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Speaker 25: no charges, and there wasn't an awful lot of detail
46:26
Speaker 25: throughout that process. It was only today, when the alleged
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Speaker 25: victim spoke to one of my colleagues at the Herald Son,
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Speaker 25: that we actually heard a bit more about what was
46:35
Speaker 25: claimed to have happened. The Britney Higgins one is totally different.
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Speaker 25: That was a campaign that was strategized. It was a
46:41
Speaker 25: narrative presented to the media. It included a cover up,
46:45
Speaker 25: a political cover up, going to the highest office of
46:47
Speaker 25: the land and still running three years, three and a
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Speaker 25: half years later. That is the extraordinary story. I think
46:54
Speaker 25: the way this case has been treated is sort of
46:56
Speaker 25: more normal, if you.
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Speaker 6: Like, and it stood aside from Labor, if he's.
47:00
Speaker 25: Going to run up the next election, I don't know myself. Look,
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Speaker 25: he left Labor within days of this allegation arising, So look,
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Speaker 25: I would think unlikely.
47:11
Speaker 2: At this note you've got a background in health policy.
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Speaker 2: Labor like to say that you know they are the
47:16
Speaker 2: owners of the medicare legacy, But the cost to see
47:19
Speaker 2: a GP's gone up under a prime minister when people
47:22
Speaker 2: are already drowning in cost of living.
47:24
Speaker 11: Increases absolutely, and certainly if you can see a GP
47:28
Speaker 11: with an out of pocket of less than one hundred dollars,
47:30
Speaker 11: you're actually very lucky. But what I'd say to that
47:32
Speaker 11: Peter is that I had an answer ten years ago.
47:36
Speaker 11: It was a modus seven dollar co payment that was mandatory,
47:39
Speaker 11: but spread across the system would have put billions of
47:41
Speaker 11: more dollars into general practice. It would have kept out
47:44
Speaker 11: of pockets low. But because Labor, the Greens, the AMA
47:49
Speaker 11: and other vested interest decided to block the coupment. Try
47:52
Speaker 11: to implement something like it. Here we are today. Cost
47:56
Speaker 11: of living is a real problem, and medical costs people
47:58
Speaker 11: going to doctor, kids going to the doctor.
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Speaker 6: Are so important.
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Speaker 2: And we know we've got this huge spike in mental
48:04
Speaker 2: health issues with young people. We know that there's a
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Speaker 2: real cause or linked now with smartphones. It's particularly hitting
48:10
Speaker 2: young boys. We can see the problems with educational attainment
48:13
Speaker 2: in Naplan yesterday.
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Speaker 6: It's all interrelated.
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Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, and certainly. I think though, when it comes
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Speaker 11: to everybody blaming smartphones or social media, whatever it happens
48:23
Speaker 11: to be, I think we have to, particularly we who
48:26
Speaker 11: are parents, have to actually take some responsibility for ourselves.
48:29
Speaker 11: I mean, we need to bring our kids up to
48:31
Speaker 11: be resilient and responsible and to be honest, I've got
48:33
Speaker 11: a five year old now, and sometimes I feel I'm
48:35
Speaker 11: failing in doing that.
48:37
Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 2: I don't mind two dolls fifty each way. I'm a
48:40
Speaker 2: good runner at the Melbourne Cup. I'm not a gambler
48:42
Speaker 2: per se week to week. But why do we need
48:44
Speaker 2: to ban gambling when the problem gambler is such a
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Speaker 2: small component of society.
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Speaker 6: I mean, we don't ban.
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Speaker 2: Grog because we've got alcoholics. We regulate it, we warn people.
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Speaker 2: But is this nanny state gone too far? Do you
48:58
Speaker 2: think to have an outright ban?
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Speaker 25: Look, I think a band is over the top. I've
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Speaker 25: been gambling for forty years, not terribly well, I should
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Speaker 25: point out better, and that the ads are annoying, They're pervasive,
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Speaker 25: if they take over, they insinuate themselves into these big
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Speaker 25: sporting events. But to actually ban them seems like overkill.
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Speaker 25: I don't think it's going to help those people who
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Speaker 25: have a problem with gambling. I'd like to see the
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Speaker 25: limited a little bit because they are annoying, but I
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Speaker 25: don't think they're necessarily dangerous in the way that a
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Speaker 25: band would sort of would make out. And a band's
49:31
Speaker 25: not going to work anyway, is it.
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Speaker 6: They rarely work, just just quickly.
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Speaker 2: Poor old Tom take the Gold Coast mayors in trouble
49:36
Speaker 2: because he called someone a ranger, is going to have
49:38
Speaker 2: a disciplinary hearing.
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Speaker 11: It's amazing, isn't it. I mean, I was at a
49:41
Speaker 11: wedding reception the other day where the groom is a
49:44
Speaker 11: redhead and spam with the redheads in the part of
49:45
Speaker 11: the bride call them all rangers.
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Speaker 6: So it clearly out there in ordinary people land.
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Speaker 11: It's fine. But really I think this is over the top,
49:53
Speaker 11: and local government is so trivial yet it's so important.
49:56
Speaker 11: That's why I think that Liberal Party in New South
49:58
Speaker 11: Wales making such a stuff of what they did with
50:01
Speaker 11: nominations there is absolutely reprehensible.
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Speaker 6: Jets, have a good weekend. I hope you win on
50:06
Speaker 6: the punt.
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Speaker 2: Thank you if you're still allowed to all right, have
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Speaker 2: a lovely weekend everyone.
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Speaker 6: I'll see you Monday. He's Andrew Bolt.