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- 0:00Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian roof
- 0:03podcast. Today's guest is a recent high
- 0:05school graduate, all the way from Israel.
- 0:08My first guest from Israel, his name is Sofia matityahu, welcome
- 0:12to the show. Thanks for having me, man, I got
- 0:17it, I know that. There you go.
- 0:18There you go. I totally didn't ask a fear how
- 0:21to say that before anyway, let's jump straight into it.
- 0:27So, yeah, you've recently graduated Do nothing about the
- 0:31Israel, education system, how it works.
- 0:36I just want to really quickly ask you about that.
- 0:37It, do you have luck a structure similar to the international
- 0:43Baccalaureate? Or because, obviously, if you're
- 0:46graduating at 18, that's different from the UK.
- 0:49We finished high school at 16 and we have kind of two years
- 0:53between 16 to 18 that we sort of do.
- 0:57Basically a continuation of education, but for some reason,
- 1:01they decided to split it but most other countries in the
- 1:04world just go up to 18. But what's kind of the general
- 1:07structure in Israel as far as education is concerned.
- 1:10Okay. So um, from age, approximately
- 1:15seven until age, 12 is in first to see rate you're having
- 1:19Elementary School. Mmm, I forgot to mention its
- 1:25there is a structure of Art. And that's prior to school,
- 1:30that's kind of complicated first.
- 1:34There is the my own, which is a Hebrew word for pretty much like
- 1:41shelter, okay? I don't know how to translate
- 1:44it, but never mind which is 4 to 24 year-olds, and then you have
- 1:52what's called gun TomTom, Harbour, which is 3 Three
- 1:58mandatory kindergarten which is 4 4 to 5.
- 2:02Okay. Then you have drawn over which
- 2:05is pre mandatory 6 to 5 to 6, excuse me.
- 2:10And then you have a gun covid is 6 to 7 and then from 7 unused,
- 2:18you start school as yeah. Cool.
- 2:22It's kind of similar to a little bit to UK and America has posed
- 2:26in the sense that I know certain places in the UK in certain
- 2:30places in America tend to do like preschool kindergarten and
- 2:37then main scorns. It's kind of similar to that, I
- 2:39guess. Yeah, we're not really much.
- 2:41But in his world acts, I think was structured.
- 2:44Like, there's age groups even for Kindergartens, which is, I
- 2:48think great because kids need to learn how to socialize with
- 2:54their own age group. Instead of Instead of kids from
- 2:59mother ages because their interests are different, their,
- 3:04their physical and mental capabilities are different.
- 3:08Yeah, thirdly to come, obviously, you've just
- 3:12graduated. So, what your kind of like a
- 3:14media plans? Are you looking to maybe, maybe
- 3:18go to university, or is there a particular career path?
- 3:20You're looking to go into, like, where are you at with that?
- 3:26Let's not put the horse before the cart.
- 3:28I graduated from high school about half a year ago.
- 3:31Okay. Now I work as a dishwasher at
- 3:36hummus restaurant. And I wait to be volunteering
- 3:44into the military military services actually almost for
- 3:49everyone. It's mandatory but for me
- 3:53because they have some communication on this function
- 3:56as I've been diagnosed with. So I get, I was exempt but I
- 4:02said, so what? Like, I'm just like any other
- 4:06person. I have the same rights and have
- 4:08the same duties. So I decided to Volunteering to
- 4:12the military and I'm about to start my military service in
- 4:16around March or April 20 22 and what are your.
- 4:23So this is the Israel Defense Force.
- 4:25I found this in the information that you'd sent over to me.
- 4:29What? What?
- 4:30Actually prompted you to push that.
- 4:32I mean I know it's quite a divisive issue.
- 4:35Some people, you know, really, really want to do it and I want
- 4:38to serve the country and such other People are really against
- 4:42it, like, what prompted you to do that?
- 4:45Why did you want to push to do it so much?
- 4:50Because I want to give my country back.
- 4:54Although this country is full of division civil, unrest
- 5:00government ineptitude. It's still a good country to
- 5:04live in like we're not starving, we're not, we're not dying.
- 5:09So, I still want to give a little bit back to this country
- 5:14and also for me as a child with communicational dysfunctions, it
- 5:19gives us me and my mother a lot of sub city with treatments and
- 5:25therapy sessions and that kind of stuff.
- 5:27So, I really want to give back. And also, as I said, I believe
- 5:32although I'm diagnosed with this and that it doesn't mean I'm
- 5:38different. I mean maybe some of my
- 5:41mannerisms and characteristics and thought patterns might be
- 5:44different. You know what?
- 5:46I just said I have mild. Autism.
- 5:49I want to hide it behind that communicational.
- 5:51Dysfunctions thing, which I say to people that I really don't
- 5:55want them to know about But I think I'm not different from
- 5:59anyone else. Like maybe have a little harder
- 6:01time. Making eye contact.
- 6:03Maybe I have a little harder time in social situations, which
- 6:06I'm working on, but I'll do whatever it takes to, to make
- 6:11myself better at that and maybe working with people which the
- 6:15role I'm going to assume. It takes a lot of interaction
- 6:20with other people regarding receiving and giving information
- 6:25about the state of the Israeli Defense Forces which I think is
- 6:29going to happen. Have you because what you were
- 6:34saying there and your choice of wording as far as introducing
- 6:37that and everything kind of implies that you faced maybe a
- 6:40bit of discrimination so far for having that.
- 6:43So I don't know, I guess what I'm trying to say is generally,
- 6:46living in growing up in Israel. Have you faced sort of
- 6:50discrimination that having mild autism as it prevented you from
- 6:53doing things or all may be prevented you from getting
- 6:57opportunities? Unities or something like that.
- 7:02I mean I'm being mocked for some of my childhood.
- 7:06Like I've been a very mean. Unorthodox Lee behaving child.
- 7:11So kids noticed that citizen as you know kids are they don't
- 7:17have the filters that some adults have.
- 7:20Yeah. But for the most part, like I'm
- 7:22a regular living person, you know, I have my job, I have my
- 7:26Social Circle. I have my hobbies, I have my The
- 7:31things I like to do and I think I behave pretty much normally,
- 7:38so tying things together. Obviously, you're looking to
- 7:43kind of get various skills and sort of test yourself via
- 7:47joining the Israel Defense Force.
- 7:48You mentioned that you're doing working as a dishwasher in a
- 7:51restaurant. I also worked as a dishwasher at
- 7:53one point. Just fun fact.
- 7:58But what do you want to do? Like, what, what are you?
- 8:02I know you're passionate about music and we'll get to that.
- 8:04But what are you really wanting to do in and years from now?
- 8:09I know and I know it's difficult.
- 8:10I was 18 once, you know, so I know it's not easy to, you know,
- 8:14and they immediately know what you want but you must there must
- 8:17be something. You're really passionate about
- 8:19the you like that's what I want to do or I want to do this.
- 8:23I really think about being a therapist when I grow up.
- 8:28Because I really want to reach out to other people and really
- 8:32give them the tools to solve their own problems.
- 8:35And also, because I'm very empathetic person.
- 8:40I know there's a sentence in Hebrew that says, the baker
- 8:43shall not measure its own do, but I think I'm pretty damn
- 8:46intelligent. So I think I can give people
- 8:49another perspective on their problems and hence let them
- 8:53solve them. I like your confidence but it's
- 8:57good. It's good.
- 8:58More people need to have that I've said this sometimes in my
- 9:01live streams that I think a problem that we have a lot of
- 9:05the time certainly in the UK but also in other countries in
- 9:09general is this idea that you can't celebrate yourself where
- 9:13you can't say oh I am good at this thing or I have, you know,
- 9:17intelligence in this area. So why can't you say that?
- 9:19I mean people will say that you're not being modest, you're
- 9:22not being humble and it's like What's not like your turn around
- 9:26being like, I am the greatest that ever lived, but you're
- 9:30sick. It's okay to say, yeah, I have a
- 9:32talent for this. I think I have a proficiency for
- 9:35this because we all have different talents things that
- 9:37we're good at things that we're not so good at you know I can't
- 9:41lie. Celebrate that.
- 9:42Yeah. If it's bagged in reality and
- 9:45you don't do it too much and it's not like you're wants to
- 9:49intelligent 24/7. Oh yeah.
- 9:51Don't shove that into people's throats like You said it in the
- 9:55appropriate context and in a way that doesn't degrade the people
- 10:01around you that. Yeah, absolutely fine.
- 10:03And actually I still have issues with my confidence.
- 10:07I'm still pretty insecure, but I'm working on that and I'm
- 10:10trying to eliminate the cognitive biases.
- 10:13That make me think this way to tell you the truth and this is
- 10:18hit me talking to you because I've been in that situation.
- 10:21When I was growing up, I had zero Confidence, bad
- 10:26self-esteem, all of that stuff. And I'm not speaking for
- 10:29everyone, but I've learnt certainly in my 20s that I don't
- 10:34think it's ever something that you truly overcome completely.
- 10:39I think it's just something that you learn to get better at
- 10:43dealing with you. Learn to kind of go.
- 10:45Do you know what? Maybe it's going to be.
- 10:47Okay, maybe I am. Okay, maybe I am worth
- 10:49something, but you still doubt yourself, but you just can't
- 10:53listen to that doubt, you know, that's the key in my humble, I
- 11:00mean, you're absolutely right, it's not something you can
- 11:02eradicate it. Not, it's not binary code.
- 11:06You can't eradicate that. I mean, you can, you can live
- 11:09with that to the point where it doesn't disturb your everyday
- 11:12life. Like sometimes you're your cope
- 11:16with it. You'll deal with it especially
- 11:18when you hit lower points in your life, but I mean, when you
- 11:23jump on the trampoline and the surface goes down so you can go
- 11:27up. It's a great way of putting it.
- 11:30I love that. Okay, so you've got quite a few
- 11:35different goals and aims and such.
- 11:37As you as you mentioned, you're ready, you're practicing social
- 11:40skills. That's something I understand a
- 11:42little bit more context for why you're doing that all around.
- 11:46You know, I mean a lot of what I'm sort of mentioning here is
- 11:50stuff that you'd sent over to me that you know, things talking
- 11:52points Etc which are helpful. So thank you for that.
- 11:55But it all kind of fits this mold of you're trying to kind of
- 12:00Better yourself Body Spirit and soul kind of thing, all around.
- 12:05And some of the things I tapped into here that I found quite
- 12:09interesting. You'll learn to cook.
- 12:11So that's interesting. Tell us more about that.
- 12:15Actually, I'm trying to turn my mother.
- 12:18Listen, let me cook with you but she's like, oh, I don't have
- 12:22time for that but I don't have energy for that.
- 12:24You know. She would like something 5 a.m.
- 12:27I see their day job. Bob, it's like 9 to 10 hours per
- 12:31day and she doesn't have the energy to teach me and I tell,
- 12:37you know what? Just give me a written
- 12:39instructions and I'll cook and she's like, nah, nah, I don't
- 12:43want to deal with the consequences first.
- 12:46If I'm not a little more, I'll give what I want.
- 12:49Trust me. Right now.
- 12:51Most of what I cook is like hard-boiled eggs and omelets.
- 12:57Unfortunately I don't Can you see more?
- 13:00But if you but I can cook rice. I mean, that's also something we
- 13:04go. Hey, got start somewhere, right?
- 13:06And I imagine actually working in that restaurant will really
- 13:10help you because I remember, when I was a dishwasher, I was
- 13:14just washing dishes and like a local pub in my University and
- 13:18every now and again, they be like, oh hey can you prepare
- 13:21some salad for us? Or can you just quickly cook
- 13:23this thing, you know, it happens.
- 13:25You slowly find yourself and every job, I Kid.
- 13:29You not every job is like this you start as one thing and you
- 13:33end up doing like loads more time before you know it.
- 13:36You're like the manager and you're like, well, hold on, give
- 13:40me, give me the money. It's like, yeah, in football
- 13:45team for you. I mean, football is in the
- 13:47football, you actually feel with your feet like you maybe your
- 13:51Centre forward, but if the opponent has the ball in his
- 13:54feet, like you're trying to take it away from them.
- 13:58You don't care, like, oh, I'm centreford.
- 14:00I need to only score goals. No, you actually do whatever it
- 14:03takes to win. That's, that's a really good
- 14:05point actually. Yeah, I think especially, yeah,
- 14:08I'm not the biggest football fan of all time, but if one of my
- 14:12flatmates is a big football fan, and we were talking recently
- 14:16about sort of Ronaldo's Cristiano, Ronaldo shift from.
- 14:20So being a midfielder to being more of a sense of forward.
- 14:24And the reason for that is that he is A team focused player and
- 14:29he knows that his. He's going to be used best at
- 14:32this point in his career as a centre-forward.
- 14:35Whereas years ago he had then energy to run up and down the
- 14:38field and be defense Midfield attack.
- 14:40You know. But my point is that you know
- 14:43you're adjusting to that team Dynamic.
- 14:46What is needed in that situation and also accept in your
- 14:51limitations but also accentuating your strengths the
- 14:54same time. Exactly.
- 14:56Exactly. I mean I didn't cook anything
- 14:59yet. I mean the most I've made is
- 15:02like tea and coffee which is served alongside dessert.
- 15:07When the customers finished their meal, we give them some
- 15:11baklava, which is some kind of a minute.
- 15:15Sweet baked good. It's like a cookie with coffee,
- 15:19or tea, what they choose. So, I made some coffee and tea
- 15:23like, that's the most but I also I mean sometimes I mopped the
- 15:27floor, sometimes I take the empty plates and put them where
- 15:34knee in the sink. So yes, You see, you see, I'm
- 15:44gonna say this right, there is nothing wrong with doing,
- 15:48physical labor, physical jobs. I've done many jobs like this.
- 15:52I've worked as a waiter, but and I've stack shelves for a living
- 15:57and the supermarket, like, I don't think there's anything
- 16:01wrong with doing those types of jobs.
- 16:03And I think most people from what I understand, tend to start
- 16:08in those jobs and then move on. Other things in that in their
- 16:11life, you know, because those are the easiest jobs to get into
- 16:14initially. But here's the thing, if you've
- 16:17never worked in those kind of jobs, I can tell you now.
- 16:20It's a lot harder than you think.
- 16:22It might sound really easy, but imagine doing this stuff for
- 16:25like 12 hours a day. With, you know, you're supposed
- 16:29to get a lunch break, but whether or not you get a lunch
- 16:32break, that's another story. And then there's other
- 16:36situations, like, like I remember one night when I was
- 16:39working as a waiter, Later, we would constantly have situations
- 16:44where, you know, be really busy. It's a summers day, that's like
- 16:46150 people on the really boiling hot Terrace managers
- 16:51disappeared. They're gone the way they are.
- 16:54So I'm essentially the manager, even though I didn't ask to be,
- 16:59or want to be, but people start coming to me like, oh, hey, what
- 17:02do we do? We do this.
- 17:03We need to do that and it's like, someone's got to take
- 17:05charge of the situation. You're right.
- 17:08And also I just found myself. In these situations constantly
- 17:12and you just do your best, you just do your best to make the
- 17:15situation work, but you've got your everything, you've got to
- 17:17deal with customer complaints, you've got to be good at
- 17:21organizational skills. You've got to have the energy to
- 17:24do it, you know. And it's just there's so much to
- 17:27contend with and when you come home you just physically and
- 17:29mentally drained. It takes everything.
- 17:32I like all I do when I come back home sometimes it just yeah I
- 17:38find that last bit of metal. Energy to take a shower.
- 17:42All I do is either browse ready to play a game on my phone.
- 17:47So the exercise you need like yeah, I've been there from a few
- 17:51simple chords on my guitar. Like nothing more than that.
- 17:55So let's talk about that you like music.
- 17:58We can see a guitar there in the background guitar for you too.
- 18:03Yes, I have how long, how long have?
- 18:05Yeah, I got guitars. I'm a musician as well.
- 18:08How long have you been a musician?
- 18:09What, what kind of music are you into?
- 18:12Talk to us about that? I don't really regard myself as
- 18:15a musician. Like I know Fury and I do
- 18:19practice daily. But ok.
- 18:21Ok, ok. Didi play an instrument.
- 18:25Yes, I play the guitar, then you're a musician.
- 18:29Okay? Yeah.
- 18:34I don't believe in this gatekeeping crap, but I don't
- 18:36think there's oh, well, you know, you need to have played
- 18:39for five years and you need to have composed this many works
- 18:42like know what he play music and you like music or musician, man.
- 18:46Come on, I'll adopt that Mike's it.
- 18:52Anyway, I interrupted so small, so you're learning theory.
- 18:55Your learnings no fury. Like, I know the names of the
- 19:00intervals you know, I know what a minor third is.
- 19:03I know what a perfect fifth is. I know to explain.
- 19:07I know time signatures in a very Broad and vague way.
- 19:13And I noticed that you're into bands such as Lamb of God, and
- 19:17heavy metal I presume. Since you're talking about time
- 19:19signatures, you're probably aware of bands like Dream
- 19:22Theater and such. Is that would that be right?
- 19:26Hi princess. I listened to panic attack once,
- 19:30but I didn't really listen to that much Dream Theater.
- 19:33Like, okay, I mean they're not some band.
- 19:36Yeah, listen wants to forsake in which is one of the most
- 19:40mainstream and straightforward song.
- 19:42Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
- 19:44I'm more into that. Silly songs that have like 15
- 19:47times signature changes? That Smith has more my thing.
- 19:53See, there you go. There's another example.
- 19:58Yeah. Don't tell us who you like
- 19:59favorite bands to listen to or that you're inspired by?
- 20:04That's about that. Yeah, there's no one band that
- 20:12I'm really into, but I mean, probably Lamb of God Killswitch
- 20:17Engage As I Lay Dying. That kind of stuff.
- 20:20I really like that that, you know, that not, he's American
- 20:24narrow, but I'm really open to anything and I think music is
- 20:29pretty much an acquired taste like many things when I listen
- 20:32to them first, I didn't like it as much as I was.
- 20:36That's not for me maybe. But then I listen to it more and
- 20:39more and started appreciating the nuances and maybe things
- 20:44started to click for instance, in one song like the timing
- 20:48sounds kinda off, but then I listened to it and understand
- 20:51the timing is actually absolutely.
- 20:52Right. It's exactly the same as with
- 20:56the first time I listened to I think, possibly a Dream Theater
- 20:59song unless I had on. Wait, what?
- 21:01And then same thing happened about two seconds later.
- 21:04It dropped it and it kind of made.
- 21:05AdSense and I was like oh oh this is a thing this is just the
- 21:10type of music I've never heard before.
- 21:12Okay that is it Anyway. Okay well what can you tell us?
- 21:20What's the heavy metal scene like in Israel or music?
- 21:23See there's a pretty large heavy metal scene.
- 21:26Actually I wanted to go a year ago a year and a half ago
- 21:31actually to an Iron Maiden show but that got cancelled because
- 21:34of covid. Yeah, and then, when they
- 21:37actually did the toward the omitted, their Israel
- 21:40performance, which I was really sad about because they're
- 21:43legendary, I mean, Bruce's, vocal abilities is off the
- 21:49charts. You can hit those notes and I
- 21:52actually used to sing. So, I really know what I'm
- 21:57talking about. Like, those high notes that it's
- 22:00insane. Specially lower voice.
- 22:02Like me. Yes.
- 22:04How it's hard to do. To sing to that, that ability.
- 22:07It's takes a lot of work for sure.
- 22:11Okay. Let's get into some sort of
- 22:12random questions about Israel in general.
- 22:16Tell us some things about Israel that not everyone will know.
- 22:20Oh I can I say that's a very tricky question.
- 22:27Most Israeli people are pissed about living in Israel including
- 22:33me and my family. They're pissed about living in
- 22:36Israel, they complain non-stop. But sometimes only when they go
- 22:42to actually third world countries like many many people,
- 22:46after they finish their military, young people, the go
- 22:49to either On South America or the forest, you know, India,
- 22:55God, that kind of those kinds of places.
- 22:58And then to understand what real poverty is not poverty.
- 23:02In the sense of all, I can't afford a five bedroom apartment
- 23:06and a trip to an a trip abroad twice, a year.
- 23:10No, actual poverty. Like you have nothing to eat.
- 23:14You barely have a house. And we need to actually have
- 23:19some perspective. Of course prices are rising.
- 23:22I'm not going to deny that it's packed in reality.
- 23:25But still, most of us actually have food on the table.
- 23:29This from where I'm from. Probably, if I go to another
- 23:32neighborhood, you know the story.
- 23:37What are some kind of for what would you say are the most
- 23:40common misconceptions about Israel?
- 23:43So I guess I'm coming at this from a western perspective but
- 23:48they're what would you say? I like the misconceptions what
- 23:50the things that people get wrong about Israel options, I mean one
- 23:59misconception is that all Israeli people are rude and
- 24:04arrogant and in lack etiquette which is not true.
- 24:09Some Israeli, people have fantastic etiquette.
- 24:12Like when I was in London, I quickly learned what is expected
- 24:18of me, as, as a visitor and peppers operating and moving
- 24:23around in space. I'm 22 letter to when I mount
- 24:30the subway need to first. Let all the people off before I
- 24:33go on. Yeah, escalator, I need to go to
- 24:38the right hand side Yeah, I never thought about that.
- 24:42Yes, it really good point because I'm actually originally
- 24:45from London and just think it's been years since I was because I
- 24:49live in somewhere else now, but those things people just kind of
- 24:53do automatically, you don't even get told to do that.
- 24:57It just, you just do it. But I guess it would just kind
- 25:01of got decided by people. It's just a natural flow of
- 25:04things, but yeah, that's a really good point.
- 25:11So what? Okay?
- 25:15This next question, I want to kind of come at this from your
- 25:19individual perspective because as I said before we actually
- 25:23went on camera and I'm just kind of saying this to my audience
- 25:25now as well. I don't really go into to really
- 25:29Politics on my show or controversially.
- 25:31I've always kind of like to focus on my guests,
- 25:34specifically, them, and their lives and their opinions and
- 25:37thoughts and feelings. I have had people on the show
- 25:41that have had like, particular, political views and such, but I
- 25:45It's a kind of give a general overview rather than, you know,
- 25:49going into bet the debates or anything like that, but I wanted
- 25:53to kind of get your thoughts, and opinions, firstly, as a
- 25:57young person, but also, as someone from Israel, what can
- 26:04you kind of tell us from your perspective about the political
- 26:08situation and sort of General Life in Israel?
- 26:14What did you mean? In in the sense of the
- 26:16israeli-palestinian conflict or just everyday life under this
- 26:20government, all of the above really you know just from your
- 26:24perspective as someone living in another country.
- 26:28Okay I'll start with the Plain Jane stuff which is just you
- 26:30know, everyday life, you know, Benjamin Netanyahu.
- 26:36He was the Prime Minister for I think 12 years such 13 mmm and
- 26:44Reese about Eight months ago, this new government under prime
- 26:53minister naphtali Bennett. The prime minister is, it's like
- 26:57the president in the US. Okay.
- 26:59Yes. Most of the political
- 27:01authorities. And people especially in the
- 27:07center to left-wing, they really loved Netanyahu loathe him.
- 27:14There were gigantic protests in Jerusalem and in Tel Aviv
- 27:19calling for the, for netanyahu's had basically, no, not in the
- 27:23sense of actually beheading him, but in the sense of this morning
- 27:28him because he has accusations that he actually accepted, Right
- 27:35from from Rich tycoons in order to so he can give them a tag a
- 27:44gimpy can give them tax tax breaks.
- 27:49Yeah. And that's one thing I don't
- 27:54know how true it is. Like I have a right wing friend
- 27:58who vehemently says like the media is making this up.
- 28:03He's innocent And it's absurd. I don't know, but I think she
- 28:09still did some dirty stuff if you ask me, but this new
- 28:14government is not perfect either prices keep Rising.
- 28:19There's still a lot of Injustice, still a lot of of
- 28:24corruption. It didn't disappear, like this.
- 28:28It will take a lot of time and a lot of work.
- 28:32And of course things will never be perfect.
- 28:34That's how the world goes things when I would be perfect but I
- 28:38think like life in under this government will be marginally
- 28:43better for the the middle class, 925 majority which makes up most
- 28:50of the population. Of course, there are the leads
- 28:54to make extreme amount of money and own like multiple houses and
- 29:01then there's the dirt. Poor woman may be homeless
- 29:05believe in the Additional insecurity that kind of stuff
- 29:10but I talked about the, you know, 925 middle-class.
- 29:14Yeah, we have two kids that this, that kind of population, I
- 29:18think life will be a little better for them.
- 29:21Would you say the class divide is particularly large between
- 29:27all those classes because we still have a class system here
- 29:30in the UK as well? And maybe it's not as large as
- 29:36it used to be, but it isn't Some areas.
- 29:38But would you would you say that you notice that particular is,
- 29:41is there a big divide? Whoa, that you know what?
- 29:47I read Harry Potter when I was 12 or 11 so I can understand
- 29:52what you're talking about. Like Draco, Malfoy it was always
- 29:56there again. He bullied Ron Weasley for being
- 29:59poor which kind of sums it up. Yeah.
- 30:03Israel. I mean the Divine is not that
- 30:08huge. I mean you I mean eighty percent
- 30:11of the population is Under spectrum of that, you know, 925
- 30:17yeah, middle class maybe have a few thousand shekels in their
- 30:23bank account and they pretty much live month two months, they
- 30:28that's pretty much 80% of the population in varying amounts of
- 30:34Financial Security. Of course, a lot of you change
- 30:38because covid hit and I hope it's okay to say it.
- 30:42I don't want your Video getting demonetized on YouTube later,
- 30:46but would you been with regards to?
- 30:49Oh, don't worry about that. I mean, I don't even because
- 30:53some YouTube videos, I listen to what they have, what they said,
- 30:57either the pandemic or the c word that does.
- 31:00Cause I'll just say this is a side note, I don't really focus
- 31:07on on YouTube, like, obviously the podcast is available on
- 31:11YouTube and twitch and stuff in Video form.
- 31:14But YouTube is kind of quick to censor stuff.
- 31:18I've actually had one episode fully band because for about 2
- 31:23seconds we spoke about q and on and it was literally
- 31:27descriptive. Yeah, it was descriptive as
- 31:29well. It's not what queuing on if
- 31:32you've heard of that. And I know, I don't look it up,
- 31:36it's just conspiracies. Yeah, point is because I had to,
- 31:41obviously review this afterwards to see what the problem was, and
- 31:45it was a five minute clip of us just talking about it just just
- 31:50like, yeah, I was like, oh, I don't really know much about
- 31:52that and he was like, oh well, this is what it is and it was
- 31:55kind of tongue-in-cheek, but it was descriptive.
- 31:57It wasn't like, this is the case, this is what you should
- 32:00believe, or something like that. It was literally just
- 32:02descriptive. And that was Off to get not only
- 32:05the clip ban but the entire episode band which I was a
- 32:08sight, okay? But as far as because you were
- 32:12talking more about monetization, I don't think you get
- 32:15demonetized generally for mentioning like coronavirus or
- 32:19whatever and even if you did, I don't earn any money from
- 32:23YouTube. I have less than 1000
- 32:25subscribers. I try not to focus on numbers,
- 32:28focus more on creating good quality quality.
- 32:32Yes, good. Nations and who knows?
- 32:36Maybe one day, we'll hit those numbers and we'll get somewhere.
- 32:39But I don't know. It's I don't know as far as
- 32:44growing online and growing in general in life, you know, it
- 32:49takes time and you don't just get things like that overnight
- 32:52and if you did, I don't think you'd appreciate them as much.
- 32:55So yeah, exactly Rome wasn't built in a day.
- 32:59So back to what we were talking about regarding the class divide
- 33:05Laughs divide isn't that big? Of course the the rich live in a
- 33:10bubble of their own is in every country and they all go to the
- 33:14same golf clubs and they all own pretty much the houses in the
- 33:19same in the same neighborhoods in Pali.
- 33:22Switzerland, Hollywood, Florida, wherever, okay.
- 33:28Sabia over maybe some young with you, which are the places with
- 33:32the ultra-rich leap live. But the class divide isn't very,
- 33:38very big for the, I mean, 80 80 percent remaining, which in the
- 33:44top Echelon 30%, we have the, okay, we're financially where
- 33:49we're lost. We can survive a crisis, we have
- 33:52a future plan and I must admit. I'm pretty much in that top
- 33:55Echelon. I live in a very pretty house.
- 33:58Big house on the last floor. My bedroom is very big, I know
- 34:04you. I can see that but my bedroom is
- 34:06very large and I'm an only child so I used to have two bedrooms
- 34:12for me. Okay well they go and in the
- 34:15bottom Echelon of the 80% you know you you have that the
- 34:20people usually in overdraft they have a hard time probably they
- 34:27earn like about 10 to 20% above minimum wage.
- 34:32They have really hard time. Maybe they even Have some sort
- 34:35of debt, they need to run. How much I think we've lost you
- 34:43there at large? I mean, the fact that my family
- 34:47and I don't live in poverty, doesn't mean we're pissed,
- 34:51you're not pissed to see Injustice.
- 34:55How much is minimum wage in Israel?
- 34:59Oh, I think it's around. Can I check that as we go?
- 35:07Yeah, go for it. It's wondering what it would be
- 35:11equivalent to. All right.
- 35:12All right. All right.
- 35:14Okay, let's see for a full time job for an adult.
- 35:22With a constant stream of income.
- 35:24Let me a monthly income, it's 5050.
- 35:29Three hundred shekels translated to pounds and dollars.
- 35:40It's actually 1250 pounds. Okay, I'll just converted to
- 35:50u.s. dollars just to clarify. It's about almost 1700 dollars.
- 35:59It's about the same as here in the UK, give or take actually
- 36:04sounds about right. Maybe a little bit above it but
- 36:07yeah, quick comparable. Just going back to, you know,
- 36:19you think in the getting becoming a therapist.
- 36:21One day you thinking, maybe of studying at University, to do
- 36:25that in Israel, or maybe you might go abroad or something to
- 36:28do that or do that you actually hit the nail on the head.
- 36:33I mean, my mother and her husband, the they actually want
- 36:39me to go to either Bulgaria or another Eastern European
- 36:44country. To study that because tuition is
- 36:48much much cheaper. And there's that guy actually
- 36:52plans for foreigners to study subject to get their diploma.
- 37:00And then that diploma is actually eligible in all
- 37:05European Union. Okay?
- 37:07Maybe I won't go to the UK to work after you guys get the
- 37:12brexit but I can go anywhere else.
- 37:15I know it's a bit of a frustrating thing that I mean, I
- 37:19think I mean, immigration in this country is always
- 37:24important, and, and the UK government knows that into spite
- 37:27of all, this ridiculous nonsense that's occurred in the last few
- 37:31years. So there will be measures in
- 37:33place to make sure that people can still come work in this
- 37:37country and such, but that exit is really going to make things
- 37:42difficult. I think in years to come, I
- 37:44don't think we've really seen the impact of it just yet.
- 37:48We've seen it in the country as far as like, Issues with trade
- 37:53and supplies and stuff like that.
- 37:55But when it comes to actual Workforce and stuff, I think
- 37:57we're going to see that in 5 to 10 years.
- 37:59So something needs to be done about that.
- 38:03I understand actually, my mother is in the living room.
- 38:06She's talking on the phone video, her.
- 38:08I thought hear anything just hear your voice, I hear.
- 38:13So I think maybe you hear her too, never mind, never mind.
- 38:17So I know studying psychology is hard, but but smack it every
- 38:27every occupation almost you take as an adult is hard.
- 38:32Yep, even if it's something you really Envision yourself going,
- 38:36it's like kids. When you ask them, what do you
- 38:38want to do? When you grow up and they're
- 38:40like a soccer player and you're like, when you're an adult and
- 38:45like you said, oh, you know how much practice it takes know, how
- 38:49many foods you need not to eat? You know, how many a whole
- 38:53teammates you need to deal with? You know, how many frustrating
- 38:57moments there are? I think it's all about.
- 39:03I suppose if you have kids or your oil, you know, working with
- 39:06kids in as a teacher or something, you've got a just
- 39:11teach them about dedication and discipline.
- 39:13I think that's kind of the key to that, you know, and it but
- 39:16it's difficult to teach that because as you say, there's lots
- 39:21of Setbacks in life, there's lots of situations where things
- 39:26don't go your way. And it's about how you bounce
- 39:31back from that and keep persevering and keep pursuing it
- 39:34in despite of your failures. In despite of how life is you
- 39:40seemingly? Yeah, well, not unfair
- 39:43necessarily, but just, you know, throwing barriers in your way, I
- 39:46think a lot of people tend to give up too early.
- 39:49You know, sometimes I see people comment on my Videos and say oh
- 39:54why don't you have like loads of views and likes and all this
- 39:57stuff and it's like, well because that stuff doesn't
- 40:00really come overnight and it's not guaranteed any way I could
- 40:04do this for maybe, like, five, ten years and never get anywhere
- 40:06and touch word. I don't want that to happen.
- 40:08I would like to get someone with it, but nothing is guaranteed.
- 40:13And the only way you know, it's like the lottery you got to be
- 40:17in it to win it, you've got to be doing it.
- 40:18If you're not doing it, you're not getting anywhere.
- 40:20If you are doing it, you've at least Got an opportunity but
- 40:24that's all it is. You're working for an
- 40:26opportunity and when you get given opportunities in life,
- 40:30you've got to take advantage of them.
- 40:32But nothing is guaranteed. And and this is it's a difficult
- 40:37world that we live in, isn't it? You know, it's like a lot of the
- 40:40time, it's not what you know it's who, you know.
- 40:43But as you say in many career paths are in taking football.
- 40:46As an example, it's about how much dedication and time and
- 40:50effort you put in and even then, Even if you like Christ, I've,
- 40:54I've, I mean, this isn't really the same thing, but it will
- 40:57illustrate a little bit of a point when I was growing up.
- 41:00As a teenager, I play five-a-side football at places
- 41:05and sometimes, you know, there'd be a group of kids that would
- 41:08come down that are, you know, in youth teams or their training to
- 41:14be in youth teams and they would completely destroy us, just
- 41:18just, you know, 20 Neil. Yes, it's ridiculous.
- 41:20Like that, they just make us look like fools.
- 41:22And I remember thinking even back, then that a lot of those
- 41:26kids wouldn't make it even though they are amazing.
- 41:32That there's so much competition.
- 41:35There's so many people working just as hard as you, if not
- 41:38harder. And they may or may not make it,
- 41:42many of them won't make it, you know.
- 41:45And I think you just have to kind of realistically, manage
- 41:48your expectations and just put in your absolute best effort and
- 41:52hope for a bit of luck. Really, and truthfully, exactly.
- 41:57Also like you don't, you don't only do that for the outcomes.
- 42:02You'll see in the far future. You also do that for something
- 42:06else. I mean, for, for being
- 42:08productive, for being disciplined productivity
- 42:12discipline to have something. Stay In your life.
- 42:16I mean, I work as a dishwasher not just to earn money, of
- 42:19course, the money is important. I mean, I have a boatload of
- 42:25cash right here. I mean, you can't see it because
- 42:29I operate from the cftc webcam. But still yeah, I said I sounded
- 42:39like some either mobster rapper right now, like you're both lot
- 42:43of cash, it looks pretty easy. Just going to start guy like
- 42:46that on the camera, like cheese. Yeah, yeah.
- 42:55Oh my God, actually it's not just for that, it's for the
- 42:59camaraderie. So you know we're all working
- 43:01for the same thing which is to serve food to people and and
- 43:07help them help them be satiated. It also like it's satisfying to
- 43:13see that your efforts are there for to put forth are actually
- 43:17giving some sort of desired outcomes, like when I see, you
- 43:23know, without the Assure you. You have nothing to serve the
- 43:28food with, hmm. The point.
- 43:31Yeah. No, everything is an important
- 43:34Cog in the world. Sometimes I, you know, I think
- 43:36about that like you get these judgmental people in life that
- 43:38look down on, you know, and I've had it, I remember working as as
- 43:43a waiter and and the way people spoke to me, sometimes I was
- 43:50ready to throw hands. Like it's just like are you
- 43:53kidding me? But you know it's because they
- 43:58just had lack respect And they don't understand it.
- 44:03Maybe that too but a lot of the time it's just, you know people
- 44:07like and respect. You know, I the way I look at
- 44:09life is that you should treat everyone with the same respect
- 44:13that you would want you know and that's not the way, it's not
- 44:17even me trying to preach. I just think that like in
- 44:19general in life, no one is better than everyone.
- 44:24We all we will get born in two different scenarios and we all
- 44:28have different levels of Legend different, you know, barriers
- 44:32that we're facing and different opportunities and such but most
- 44:35of us have to work our asses off for everything we have in life
- 44:40and any opportunities were given.
- 44:43We just have to jump at them because they don't often come.
- 44:47And I think that When you get people that judge you for doing
- 44:53something, you know maybe a mean more menial job.
- 44:56I mean I think that says more about them than it does say
- 44:59about you. I think it says that they're
- 45:00just kind of where they're just, they're just low.
- 45:06They just, you know, they they like respect.
- 45:10No. I don't know that I would say
- 45:12they're insecure. I think they just kind of, they
- 45:14lack respect. They like, Empathy.
- 45:18They like many of these basic things that I don't know.
- 45:21Like, if I'm sitting at a restaurant it, even before I
- 45:25worked in the customer service industry, like I never win a
- 45:27dreamt of speaking to people, the way that I've been spoken
- 45:30to, or the way I see, sometimes people speak to people and it's
- 45:35just like, I think people a lot of the time the act in that way
- 45:40towards people in the service industry, I think it's a
- 45:43psychological thing of they want to feel better than people.
- 45:47They feel maybe you're right. Actually the insecurity thing,
- 45:50maybe it is just that they lack confidence within themselves.
- 45:54They lack something in their life so they take it out on
- 45:58someone else to make themselves feel better.
- 46:00I basically look like bullies, to be honest, same sort of
- 46:03principle, but it just makes them like an ass, you know?
- 46:09And everyone like you ever see that happened?
- 46:11You ever sit in a restaurant, you see that happened, like not
- 46:14no one's looking at the server going all.
- 46:16What did they do wrong? I'm looking at that person
- 46:18speaking to that person going nuts, here are actually pretty
- 46:25common. I mean, there's a viral.
- 46:28There was a viral video. I think it was shot like four
- 46:32years ago. Six years ago, few years ago of
- 46:36a lady and in an airplane and the flight attendant wouldn't
- 46:41sell chocolate to her to burn their flight mates and she
- 46:46started Yelling at with with such brutality and aggression
- 46:54and that that was actually collect.
- 46:58I said, yeah, I mean, who are they ugly Israel young Israeli
- 47:03which is not ugly as in like aesthetically in unpleasing but
- 47:11as in rude impolite Entitled. Sorry.
- 47:19English is not my first language.
- 47:20So sometimes to find the word and that is actually kind of
- 47:30like seeing these videos because it's a music.
- 47:34I must admit, it's amusing. But if I would encounter that in
- 47:38real life, especially if I'm the person being talked to.
- 47:41I mean, I probably either Reserve myself, Off or if I'm
- 47:47really exhausted like an into a yelling match which is not
- 47:52desired. It's like it's like giving them
- 47:55fuel to the fire. I think I worked in customer
- 47:59services for about six or seven years in total and I could
- 48:04probably count like three times that I even lost it or a
- 48:10snapback customer. And like I remember one time it
- 48:15was is a really hot day. I was working as a server at
- 48:18some restaurant or hotel and we had like this Lounge area like
- 48:25it was like a it was a lounge area and then there was a place
- 48:28that we did like English afternoon tea which was a
- 48:31slightly bit fancier area and then there's the Terrace
- 48:34outside, right? So everyone.
- 48:36Yeah, exactly. So everyone's outside because
- 48:39it's a beautiful day, it's by a river.
- 48:41You know you can imagine the scene but it's packed.
- 48:44There's nowhere to sit. Wait to sit.
- 48:47So and naturally there's no one indoors everyone's Outdoors.
- 48:50So, indoors is basically empty and there's this couple that
- 48:54come in and they're like, we would like a place to sit and I
- 48:57said, oh unfortunately, we're busy.
- 49:00So I don't know how long the wait will be, but if you find a
- 49:03place, please feel free to sit down, right?
- 49:05And I thought that would be the end of it.
- 49:06And they were like, oh well, we're going to sit here and you
- 49:11can go and find us a place when, when it becomes available and
- 49:15they can Can see, right? I've got like I don't know 15
- 49:18things in my hands. We're all running back and forth
- 49:21that would clearly very busy and stressed out and I'm like okay
- 49:25and that's the thing in the midst of this while we're going
- 49:29back and forth and back and forth.
- 49:31There's pick new people coming in and finding spots where
- 49:35people have left and we haven't even had the opportunity to
- 49:38clear the tables yet, right? That's how busy.
- 49:40It's like, people just, they're like, vultures they see it and
- 49:43they go for it. But fine, great, its Come first
- 49:46serve, right? It's not reserved.
- 49:49And I remember this couple as I'm passing back and forth, they
- 49:54stop me and say you promised us to find a place you use.
- 50:00You said you were gonna find us a place but then this couple
- 50:04came in after us and they've sat down and you're serving them
- 50:07first and I just said, Its first come first serve and it's up to
- 50:13you like I can't, you know I mean like we do our best but you
- 50:18know we can't help if people go and sit there before we've even
- 50:22had a chance to interact with it.
- 50:24You know I mean like if I have genuinely had the opportunity to
- 50:26clear the table and no one is going to that table, I would
- 50:30have gone over to them and brought them over to the table.
- 50:34But I didn't have that opportunity because we were so
- 50:36busy yet. We had to turn people away.
- 50:38That's how busy we were. And they, you know, me and it's
- 50:42that kind of stupidity because they were then launching into me
- 50:46and being like, oh, this is worse customers or a hammer, or
- 50:49get your, get your manager. And then, you know, naturally,
- 50:51my manager comes and says the exact same thing that I have
- 50:54said because and it's just, I don't know, man.
- 51:00I think sometimes they just like to just be dicks part of my
- 51:04Which for no reason just to make themselves feel better, I don't
- 51:07know. And it know I think maybe this
- 51:11the it's not actually malicious intent, it's just maybe no, no,
- 51:15ya know that I don't doubt that they I think look, they Strode
- 51:21down as a nice day. You know, they saw, oh, there's
- 51:24this nice place all over the river, wouldn't it be nice to
- 51:26sit on this Terrace and yeah, I agree, right, but I can't help
- 51:31you. I can't put a table from out of
- 51:33my ass. And have you sit on it, you know
- 51:35what I mean? Like, I'm not a magician, I do
- 51:39the best with what I had and we were hideously understaffed like
- 51:42every other restaurant probably in the world.
- 51:46And it's just, what can you do in a situation like that?
- 51:49And and that's the thing they can.
- 51:52The customer thinks they can speak to you in a rude Manner
- 51:56and get away with it because you're you won't say anything.
- 51:59Because if you do, you'll get fired, right?
- 52:01But I snap back because it's like, no, you're in the And I
- 52:05wasn't rude in the sense that I said anything, I shouldn't have
- 52:08but I was a bit like, no look, you know, we've done our best
- 52:10here and we can't help that this is the situation, you know, and
- 52:14then yeah firm. But fair like, yeah, it's that's
- 52:18awesome. What you do sometimes?
- 52:21Have to stand up for yourself. You know, and you get these
- 52:23people. You're like, for instance, I
- 52:25disagree with the classic saying of the customer's always, right?
- 52:28That's bullshit. The customer is not always right
- 52:30often. The customer is wrong and
- 52:32entitled and thinks they Deserve to be given everything for
- 52:36nothing. Customer is often wrong.
- 52:41It did a bit like if if the if the rules are very laid out,
- 52:44very fairly right and straightforward, it's your fault
- 52:48for not, you know, reading the situation.
- 52:53So going back to the snow. So I know I'm going a bit of a
- 52:55tangent here but just bear with me that's kind of customer
- 52:59behavior is actually kind of giving evidence to my feet.
- 53:04Re that everyone has autism to some degree.
- 53:09Interesting, what they say is a spectrum that the autism
- 53:12spectrum. I mean, even though people
- 53:14aren't diagnosed, that's my theory, even people who aren't
- 53:18diagnosed. They still exhibit some traits
- 53:22that usually are characteristics of autistic people.
- 53:27Like I mean, they're not deserving of the actual clinical
- 53:31diagnosis, but still, they exhibit some sort of some of the
- 53:36traits which are the criteria For diagnosing autism.
- 53:40That's how I think he might be on to something there, because I
- 53:42can think of so many instances where I care for the explain to
- 53:46someone why we couldn't help them or why we couldn't deliver
- 53:49the thing that we wanted to deliver and it was very clear,
- 53:52you know, nuts and bolts. This is the reason and then we
- 53:56still had to have an argument for an hour and a half or an
- 53:59hour where I was just repeating myself.
- 54:04And it's like they just didn't get the most basic thing.
- 54:08So maybe that maybe you're right.
- 54:10Maybe there was an element to that.
- 54:12Maybe maybe it's a thing. I don't know.
- 54:16Yes it's those kinds of arguments are kind of like
- 54:19putting sand through a meat grinder.
- 54:21Like it provides no. Outcome it exactly the same.
- 54:25This is It's just wasting my time, I'll be honest.
- 54:27Like and that's the thing I've got so many examples of where
- 54:33that happened like so many across all the different places
- 54:37that I worked over the years. And I can't help but feel that
- 54:42it's not because of anything. I did it was because I was I was
- 54:46always like I'm not mr. Perfect.
- 54:48But you know, I would oh I always knew how to speak to
- 54:51people. I always knew how to keep my
- 54:54temper and keep it together and be professional and I realized
- 54:57the consequences of not doing so and you know, but at the same
- 55:02time, like we're still human beings and if someone is
- 55:05disrespectful to you and rude, it's very difficult.
- 55:08To continue to just take that and be nice.
- 55:14When someone is actively being nasty.
- 55:16Eventually, you get to a point where it's like, Shut up.
- 55:20I don't want to serve you. For example, when I worked in a
- 55:23supermarket, if someone was rude to me because here's the thing,
- 55:28there's this Supermarket here in the UK called waitrose, right?
- 55:32And it's the supermarket are worked for.
- 55:33This was many many years ago. Just think Posh upmarket
- 55:37Supermarket, basically for the middle class.
- 55:40Anyway, they had this thing which other supermarkets don't
- 55:44have. So if you go into a don't know
- 55:47store Or and they don't have something on the Shelf while
- 55:51they just don't have it, you know, I mean, they just they
- 55:53obviously out of that thing. But for some reason in waitrose
- 55:57it was different. Like if something wasn't on the
- 55:59Shelf the customers were enabled and encouraged to ask the staff
- 56:05to go and check upstairs even though we know we don't have it.
- 56:10It was this pointless exercise every time so be like, oh yes of
- 56:13course Madam. Yes, I'll go upstairs and check
- 56:15for that even and here's the thing, I would know that we
- 56:19don't have it upstairs. I know that for a fact So and I
- 56:23would say I'm sorry, we don't have this and then I Kyle pitch.
- 56:26Could you check anyway? Okay, then I will go upstairs,
- 56:30even though I've told you that we don't have it.
- 56:32So you're calling me a liar. Basically.
- 56:34And what I would do is I would just go upstairs.
- 56:37Have a coffee. Walk around a bit chat to some
- 56:39people. No.
- 56:40Because look, if they're gonna waste my time I'm going to waste
- 56:43their time, right? And then I'd come back
- 56:45downstairs and I'd be like, look, I've looked upstairs and
- 56:51we don't have it and then the Oh, well, this is unacceptable.
- 56:55How could you not have this on the shop floor and one?
- 56:58Or two things that happened? Either one?
- 57:00They would say, oh, I'm going to shop at Sainsbury's and I'd be
- 57:03like, okay, see ya or they would be like, I want to speak to a
- 57:08manager, and here's what would happen.
- 57:11So, the manager were coming. Yeah, no serious is true.
- 57:15The manager will come up to you and they would often in front of
- 57:19the customer be like, oh Christian.
- 57:21Do we do we have the upstairs and I'd be like, No because no
- 57:24matter don't know, maybe they know but mostly they're just
- 57:26doing other shit. They don't have time to check
- 57:28this fucking Warehouse every five minutes.
- 57:32So they trust you because they know you're dealing with it and
- 57:37they would ask me and I'll be like, no, we don't have it.
- 57:39And then they would say to the customers.
- 57:40Sorry, we don't have it and then they would be like, I'm writing
- 57:43to head office and it's like, oh, good luck with that because
- 57:48good office, I'm gonna reply, it's just, it's a particular The
- 57:53customer the I don't get me wrong.
- 57:55I'm not saying that there aren't bad employees out there.
- 57:57Because there are, there are people that don't work hard and
- 58:00a rude and everything. So it does go both ways but
- 58:03there is this particular type of customer, you know, some people
- 58:07call it the Karen, some people have other words for it, it
- 58:10exists and it exists everywhere in the world and in all
- 58:14different types of customer service.
- 58:18Industries and you know that here's another quick example.
- 58:23II know I've gone a tangent here but just bear with me.
- 58:26We had this thing at waitrose and I don't understand why we
- 58:29did it and sorry to blast waitrose that you guys are
- 58:32awesome. But back in the day you did
- 58:34stuff like this, where you would, you would go up to the, I
- 58:41would say, I would see a customer, right?
- 58:43Grab like a box of cornflakes poke holes in them.
- 58:48B would like a pencil. Bring it over to the customer
- 58:52sir, excuse me is customer service desk.
- 58:55And be like, this product is damaged, or you need to give me
- 58:59a reduction on this product, is product is damaged and the
- 59:03manager knowing that this is, you know, been purposefully on
- 59:07apart. Yeah, would give a refund to
- 59:13that person straight away. And then, there are other times
- 59:17when the person, but they bought, like, maybe a sandwich
- 59:20or something, right. Ate like three bites of it and
- 59:24came back and said, I need Refund.
- 59:25I need to refund this, something wrong with this, and then they
- 59:28would get what's called a double refund, so they would get their
- 59:32money back. Plus the product for free or
- 59:35exchanged. And then they walk away and they
- 59:39did that so many times. I saw a particular manager do
- 59:42this so many times and I was like, you know, that they're
- 59:46lying, right? And they do this every week and
- 59:49every week you just give them that money and I think they just
- 59:54played stupid because it was easier than receiving
- 59:57complaints. I think that's why they did it.
- 1:00:00But I can't say I agree with it. I think that's stupid.
- 1:00:03I don't think you should set a precedent.
- 1:00:04If you know people are taking advantage of you, don't let them
- 1:00:07take advantage. Aw that's easier said that done
- 1:00:10man that's also something I did with just stop.
- 1:00:14I still have a hard time like holding my own regarding what I
- 1:00:17want. And what I mean they still have
- 1:00:19a hard time with that. But it's something that I work
- 1:00:27through and I'll get to the point where I'm proficient
- 1:00:30enough in expressing my wants and needs and actually saying
- 1:00:34no, sorry that's not right. For me right now.
- 1:00:37Maybe another day and I already do that.
- 1:00:42I have not seen that. We already knew that.
- 1:00:48What's the biggest life lesson that you've learned so far?
- 1:00:52Yeah, yeah. That's that's that's pretty
- 1:00:59well. That's a tricky question me to
- 1:01:01think about that. What's the life lesson of
- 1:01:07learned? That most of the the negativity
- 1:01:16that occurs to us is actually our own bit ability.
- 1:01:21I mean, yeah, you can have a difficult day at work.
- 1:01:25You can have you can break up with somebody, you really love
- 1:01:29or just have a very major disagreement.
- 1:01:34And, and I'm guilty of this. I'm very guilty of this
- 1:01:37extremely guilty of this. Every damn guilty of this, but I
- 1:01:41always remind myself like, yeah, you're putting yourself through
- 1:01:45unnecessary pain and suffering, dude, chill.
- 1:01:52So that's something I really first of all, I am bread.
- 1:01:57Absolutely embraced. I've absolutely embraced the
- 1:02:00responsibility for that and I understand it.
- 1:02:03Something that's, that's a matter of my perception but
- 1:02:10still, it's something that my brain.
- 1:02:13It's like it's going to literally can't resist when you
- 1:02:16try to change it and it's because the my brain I'll say
- 1:02:23straight up. My brain is very, very stubborn.
- 1:02:25And I'm like, all right brain, I'll write it down.
- 1:02:28All right? Ray, I have this notebook.
- 1:02:30Actually, it really helps me to manage my mood and journal my
- 1:02:35thoughts, and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:02:37And I say, okay, I understand it's very hard to change this
- 1:02:40belief. I know, I believe that I was
- 1:02:45being like, I was being the victim in this situation but
- 1:02:51maybe Maybe it's maybe. Look at the bigger picture,
- 1:02:54like, say okay, I had this fight with my very good friend, which
- 1:02:59is almost like my girlfriend except for a way.
- 1:03:03We don't, we don't do sexual intercourse and we don't have
- 1:03:07Intimacy in the physical way, but we all thought we had all
- 1:03:15these good interactions. So obsessing about this one -
- 1:03:20interaction, where we Read strongly about something and
- 1:03:25maybe exchanged a few heated Words In the Heat of the Moment,
- 1:03:30it's not that big when you look at it and it's still something I
- 1:03:34work on and it's still something I need to practice and I need to
- 1:03:39practice a lot. But as they say, practice makes
- 1:03:44perfect, maybe not perfect, because nothing's perfect.
- 1:03:47But, but practice makes Perfection see.
- 1:03:51If I go to litigation Direction, that's a quite right there,
- 1:03:55practice makes perfect sense e. Brilliant.
- 1:03:58Brilliant. As we draw things to a close
- 1:04:02today, do you have any upcoming upcoming project?
- 1:04:06See, I'm not perfect. Do you have any upcoming
- 1:04:08projects or final thoughts that you'd like to share damn?
- 1:04:13Like, I really like to share that.
- 1:04:16I really stepped up my guitar practice and team like I'm
- 1:04:20practice for me. Time.
- 1:04:21And I tried to practice more outside of my comfort zone.
- 1:04:25Like, if I had this disco change, for instance, I'm trying
- 1:04:29to change code from G to D Minor, which is a chord change.
- 1:04:35I'm really freaking good at and like I'll put a drum machine
- 1:04:40set, a kick drum at quarter notes, you know what I'm talking
- 1:04:44about? So it will be like a metronome
- 1:04:48because I can't stand the clicking of a metronome.
- 1:04:50It pisses me off to no end. So that would just a drum
- 1:04:53machine and put a kick drum because the it sounds way better
- 1:04:57than this. And so I just do for down
- 1:05:05Strokes of that chord and then I try and change the Cordon Bleu
- 1:05:08for downstrokes and so on. And also I work on my down
- 1:05:11picking speed picking alternate picking.
- 1:05:17I haven't started really solos. Although I play guitar for
- 1:05:20almost like a year and a half now, even worse than that.
- 1:05:24But I mean that's really something that I want to excel
- 1:05:29at and you talked about determination and and dealing
- 1:05:33with setbacks and hardships and sometimes like my BPM is not
- 1:05:37going to be as good. It's not going to be as good.
- 1:05:40I'm gonna be honest with you but I'll tell myself is like do what
- 1:05:44you can keep practicing even if it's like 10 20 BPM lower than
- 1:05:51what you did last week. So effing what Just keep
- 1:05:54practicing. No, it's not a linear process,
- 1:05:57sometimes you go up, sometimes you go down and that's all
- 1:06:00right, that's like letting instrument like doing every
- 1:06:06skill based Endeavor. It's gonna be, it's not going to
- 1:06:11be linear graph like a m, times X, plus b type.
- 1:06:16It's going to be a very, very curvy graph.
- 1:06:21And another thing I'd like to tell is that gotta tell these
- 1:06:25stories crazy story about how my mother and her current husband
- 1:06:29men. Like, that's pretty crazy.
- 1:06:32Actually, nine years ago, I was 10 years old.
- 1:06:37My birth. My 19th.
- 1:06:38Birthday is actually this upcoming Friday.
- 1:06:41So, so almost 10 years old. Yeah, 10 years old, me, and my
- 1:06:49mother. We were living in this.
- 1:06:51First floor apartment, was pretty small was too close to
- 1:06:55the street corners would wake her up very often.
- 1:07:00And so ultimately, we decided to move to our current house and my
- 1:07:09aunt, my mother's sister, and her brother-in-law, they
- 1:07:13recommended on a certain handyman /, renovate renovator
- 1:07:20to To actually do the renovations.
- 1:07:24And he he's actually he he has long hair, he speaks with a very
- 1:07:30very Bulgarian accent, very you hear that accident, you know,
- 1:07:37it's him. That's how this think it is and
- 1:07:40I can't personally but I know how to impersonate the Russian
- 1:07:43accent for not businesses and so he he did the renovation.
- 1:07:50Like it was cool. They kept each other's phone
- 1:07:52numbers I think. Think like, I'll shake that up
- 1:07:55with my mom afterwards. We'll finish here and so
- 1:08:00afterwards that and they were actually not meant for each
- 1:08:03other in the place that surface level because my mother, she was
- 1:08:08all about her job and me, like, I actually making sure my needs
- 1:08:14are met and that I'm going to the necessary treatments and
- 1:08:21practice sessions of the Skills that I need especially verbal
- 1:08:26skills and he he lived in southern Tel Aviv, which is the
- 1:08:32more like more. It's like the East End of
- 1:08:35London. If you understand what I mean.
- 1:08:37It's like mainly immigrant. It's pretty poor.
- 1:08:41It's somewhat like the controversial place.
- 1:08:44Maybe there's crime going on. It's kind of like that.
- 1:08:49It's kind of like the East End of London.
- 1:08:51Oh, Harlem in New York and so he was actually living there back
- 1:08:57then he was going to drink beer with his body's.
- 1:09:01He didn't want to commit the key recently broke up with his then
- 1:09:05wife, but then in some crazy turn of events.
- 1:09:09Like either one of them invited the other to meet and I was at
- 1:09:15that meeting, I think it was him who invited her to his house
- 1:09:18because he really thought she is Is really something that
- 1:09:24something someone that will be right for him.
- 1:09:29And so he invited her to his apartment.
- 1:09:31I was there it wasn't a one or two bedroom, apartment, very
- 1:09:34small apartment. Very very dominant cigarettes.
- 1:09:39No, because he smoked a lot back, then he still smokes, but
- 1:09:43less because they had a medical issue.
- 1:09:45And so then they kept, you know, calling each other and good coin
- 1:09:52each other. They they were meeting in in
- 1:09:57increasing frequencies are in first was like once every two
- 1:10:02weeks then it was once a week. Once every 10 days then it was
- 1:10:09twice a week Thrice a week, four times a week and eventually a
- 1:10:15year. So after a year and a half is
- 1:10:17often the first met The actually he moved in with us, he left his
- 1:10:24apartment in sounds in Tel, Aviv and moved in with us.
- 1:10:27That was difficult as shit. I'm going with difficulties shit
- 1:10:32like he I was eleven. Okay.
- 1:10:36Yes. I was 11 and as you know, eleven
- 1:10:38year olds are massive Abel's massive and I was no exception.
- 1:10:43I was rude, I didn't care like even my grandma would call me
- 1:10:47like Next to you is is above
- 1:11:10everything. So it sounds like rude, not
- 1:11:16uneducated nothing. Getting the sense of stupid but
- 1:11:19uneducated in the sense of uncultured and I thought like
- 1:11:25why is this dude? Why did man coming?
- 1:11:28Like he doesn't want to be my dad, I wanted so bad to be my
- 1:11:32dad. I'm actually the result of a
- 1:11:34sperm donation. So I don't know who my
- 1:11:36biological father is and up until the age of 10.
- 1:11:39It was only me and my mom. And so then he came in and I had
- 1:11:45this kind of Oedipus complex. You know what?
- 1:11:48I'm talking about. Well, I kind of wanted to kick
- 1:11:52him out. I actually had that thought back
- 1:11:54then like oh, I want two men out.
- 1:11:57Like what what does he do? He why did my mom bring him to
- 1:12:00you? And my mom explained to me, I
- 1:12:03love you but it's not the same type of love because I love you
- 1:12:08unconditionally, but him it's another type of luggage and now
- 1:12:13I've been like a year and a half ago.
- 1:12:16I've been in In a four-month relationship with a girl like, I
- 1:12:21liked her, but it didn't love her.
- 1:12:23You know what I'm saying? Like she was a very nice person.
- 1:12:26She was kind. She was humble.
- 1:12:28She was, she was very polite. I really, really liked her.
- 1:12:34Like, I'd say, yeah. I really like her to be the
- 1:12:36mother of my children, but she's like, she was, like, not
- 1:12:41somebody. I'd like to engage in intimacy
- 1:12:44with and so, in the end, she thought the same about Like,
- 1:12:48he's really nice too, but I would like to hook up with him.
- 1:12:53So we eventually broke up, like I said, okay, see it's not
- 1:12:57working. Let's just go each other each to
- 1:12:59our own, she agreed. And so, we hugged, and ever
- 1:13:03since I've never seen her, but it was a tangent to explain
- 1:13:09that. Now, understand that the fact
- 1:13:11that she loves him doesn't mean that she doesn't love me and she
- 1:13:14doesn't care for me and he also cares for me like not The
- 1:13:18emotional way of, you know, you had a really rough day.
- 1:13:22Yeah, talk to me, but in the sense of yes office in gum goes
- 1:13:27for me. I will inherit everything he has
- 1:13:31after he passes away. Eventually, he is me and him.
- 1:13:38We really make an effort to tell each other, what's bothering?
- 1:13:43Because sometimes like, you have those insane rage attacks.
- 1:13:47Because I did something that bothered him.
- 1:13:49I didn't even know it bothered him or a new, it wasn't Ian but
- 1:13:53I kind of forgot about it. Like it was an automatic and so
- 1:13:58only when he got mad understood and so but we've gone through
- 1:14:03this very difficult process. Of of you know we had very
- 1:14:08difficult moments moments, he was on the verge of leaving
- 1:14:12moments. I was like Okay, like okay, once
- 1:14:18I turn 21, I've get the hell out of this house because I was 12
- 1:14:2213 back. Then I couldn't live alone.
- 1:14:26And so, but we got through it and that's something that I
- 1:14:31really think about like how crazy this story is, the only
- 1:14:34came to renovate our house. Now, they're husband and wife
- 1:14:37of, I think 19 months. It's kind of like this adult
- 1:14:42videos with the either the pizza delivery.
- 1:14:46Yeah, the plumber or whatever. Like, in comes to fix this one
- 1:14:51thing and then, you know, happen either.
- 1:14:57It's like a crazy story and also, it says, that some things
- 1:15:00take worked, many relationships, take work, it's not love at
- 1:15:05first sight or see this woman. She's so perfect.
- 1:15:09We're gonna bury and actually had this fantasy.
- 1:15:13Like, I had a crush when I was 12 to 13.
- 1:15:16I really love about it, but back then, it was it real consuming.
- 1:15:21Like she was pretty, she was nice and all that.
- 1:15:26And I kind of snag her too much. I didn't really know how to
- 1:15:30operate with girls. It's really very funny for me
- 1:15:33because I remember that and then I can just tell, okay, she
- 1:15:37doesn't love me back. And I actually cried first few
- 1:15:40days, like I had no motivation but because I had to break up
- 1:15:44with the cytosine. And today, like, we're kind of,
- 1:15:48we're good with each other. Like, if I'd passed if a tear in
- 1:15:52the hallways, like I said, Hi, how are you?
- 1:15:54And she was like, be like how are You and as I told her that
- 1:15:58sorry like I had no nuances, but but it just shows like we all
- 1:16:06grow. And that's something I'm really
- 1:16:08big into right now. That humans have the capacity
- 1:16:11and the potential to grow and adapt and evolve.
- 1:16:15And that's such a beautiful thing that such a beautiful
- 1:16:19thing. That really something that I
- 1:16:23want to apply my day-to-day life.
- 1:16:29Couldn't agree moment. A thank you so much for sharing
- 1:16:31her story. It's it's good.
- 1:16:35It's good stuff. I appreciate.
- 1:16:36I think our listeners will really love hearing.
- 1:16:40And yeah I just want to say a massive thank you for being on
- 1:16:43the show. It's been it's been really
- 1:16:45enjoyable and it's been great getting to know you and
- 1:16:48everything and yeah I wish you all the best.
- 1:16:52Indeed in just one thing for the YouTube business and purchases
- 1:16:56every time it is an on my head or point.
- 1:16:58The camera. It means.
- 1:17:00I really agree with first. Christian said, okay, I really
- 1:17:05agree with that special. Well, thank you very much.
- 1:17:10And, to the listeners of the Christian way, podcast be safe,
- 1:17:14be well, and I'll see you in the next one.