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Medicaid Payments to CA & MIN Deferred | U.S.-Saudi Arabia Nuclear Deal · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: On a Wednesday morning, July twenty two, the President is
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  Speaker 2: on his way to Dover Air Force Base to receive
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  Speaker 2: the bodies of those some of those servicemen and women
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  Speaker 2: who are killed overseas. They're now calling it a dignified
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  Speaker 2: transfer of bodies. I don't understand that phrase. Dignified transfer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's that's been used as the President appropriately
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  Speaker 2: receiving the bodies on behalf of the United States, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of panoply as the bodies are taken
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  Speaker 2: off with an honor guard. I mean, it's done exactly
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  Speaker 2: as it should. But now it's a dignified transfer as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to what the president is starting to break dance
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  Speaker 2: as the coffins.
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  Speaker 1: Are brought out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it. Don't understand you know the term.
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  Speaker 2: In any case, that was just a little aside on
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  Speaker 2: my part. Really you didn't know that, did you. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: a story now about the ongoing fight with California and
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  Speaker 2: the Trump administration, because that's the big fight now. The
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  Speaker 2: latest salvo has been launched a why health and Human
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  Speaker 2: Services Secretary Robert Kennedy announced yesterday that the agency is
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  Speaker 2: going to withhold eight hundred and sixty seven point five
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  Speaker 2: million dollars in Medicaid payments over concerns about fraud.
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  Speaker 1: I want to point something out.
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  Speaker 2: There is no such thing as a red state committing
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  Speaker 2: any kind of fraud on any level. Strangely enough, it's
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  Speaker 2: only blue state. Although there's an argument here and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to share this with you. So.
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy also said.
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  Speaker 2: That one hundred and ninety nine million dollars in Medicaid
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  Speaker 2: payments are not going to Minnesota over the similar concerns,
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  Speaker 2: and Kennedy said if Gaviner and newse IF Gavin Newsom
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  Speaker 2: or Governor Tim Waltz wants the funding released, all they
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  Speaker 2: have to do is provide based documentation showing that these
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  Speaker 2: services are legitimate and not fraudulent. And about half of
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  Speaker 2: those funds that were withheld are in connection to in
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  Speaker 2: home health services. The in home health services the program
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  Speaker 2: allows family members to take care of family members and
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  Speaker 2: get paid as opposed to care with professionals coming in
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  Speaker 2: and or going into nursing homes on where the cost
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  Speaker 2: would be astronomical, and that is the entire point of
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  Speaker 2: this program. And here is the issue. And I assume
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  Speaker 2: it's true story out of the La Times that doctor
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  Speaker 2: Memmet Oz remembered the doctor Oz program. Who happens to
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  Speaker 2: be a hard surgeon. Pretty impressive anyway. He says that
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  Speaker 2: California's spending on in home health services the program I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about, went up more than double the national average
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  Speaker 2: over the last two fiscal years. It is doubled over
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  Speaker 2: the last two years. And he said that doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: sense at all. And then he went and said about
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  Speaker 2: a quarter of the funds withheld involved care provided to
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  Speaker 2: individuals with unsatisfactory immigration status, retail llegals whose eligibility in
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  Speaker 2: the country and who receive these services are in question.
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  Speaker 2: And he said this is an ongoing, massive problem for California.
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  Speaker 2: And the political fallout on this one, Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 2: a big one. Why because if people are that sick,
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  Speaker 2: the state must take care of them. There's no way
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  Speaker 2: to They don't even ask legal status, they don't, they
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  Speaker 2: just provide the care. Newsom's office said that this is
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  Speaker 2: just a recycled political stump stunt. California isn't being targeted
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  Speaker 2: because Trump has evidence of fraud.
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  Speaker 1: We're being targeted for political reasons.
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  Speaker 2: And OZ doesn't understand that we are quote saving taxpayers
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  Speaker 2: money by keeping seniors and people with the stabilities out
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  Speaker 2: of far more expensive nursing homes.
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  Speaker 1: That is true.
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  Speaker 2: The program does keep people out of these nursing homes,
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  Speaker 2: which probably costs I don't know how much more than
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  Speaker 2: it is for in house care by family members. Even
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  Speaker 2: and Newsom's off said the state stands ready to collaborate,
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  Speaker 2: collaborate with the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services in
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  Speaker 2: good faith to combat fraud. So a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: are going on in one sense or on one side.
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  Speaker 2: If OZ is correct and the services have doubled, the
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  Speaker 2: money has doubled in the last two years, that says something.
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  Speaker 1: The administration says.
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  Speaker 2: There's all kinds of fraud involved, and that's why we're
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  Speaker 2: withholding Medicaid payments. We the government of the United States
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  Speaker 2: with holding payments to California. And the question is, how
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  Speaker 2: does any of this happen without all kinds of political
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  Speaker 2: aspects to it.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Everything that goes on on a federal level and on
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  Speaker 2: a state level where money is exchanged usually Feds to
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  Speaker 2: the state, because that's the way our system works, has
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  Speaker 2: political overtons to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's that simple. It's all political.
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  Speaker 2: So California says, okay, just show us where the fraud
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  Speaker 2: is and furthermore says that a twenty twenty state audit
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  Speaker 2: of in home care found no prob program integrity concerns
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  Speaker 2: and actually encouraged the expansion of that care to reduce
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  Speaker 2: spending on institutional care, and points out the California that
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  Speaker 2: the federal government had previously approved California's approached in home care. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my guess is that was before the amount of money
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  Speaker 2: for these programs have doubled. So you know, where do
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  Speaker 2: you go with this? Which part of this is true,
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  Speaker 2: which part of it is not? And I am convinced
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  Speaker 2: that on either side of the coin giving aid to
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  Speaker 2: folks who are undocumented or receiving money that should be
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  Speaker 2: coming into California, I think first we look at politics.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. We look at politics for everything.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the nuclear deal is about to be signed with
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and the United States. The President has approved
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  Speaker 2: a thirty year civilian nuclear agreement with Saudi Arabia that
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  Speaker 2: could allow uranium and rinch in Richmond in the Kingdom,
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  Speaker 2: and it's designed to give US companies a central role
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  Speaker 2: in developing Saudi nuclear infrastructure and shutting out foreign competitors.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of what this is about. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to face some Congressional opposition, but it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: because order to stop it, Congress would need a two
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  Speaker 2: thirds majority and it would have to override potential veto,
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  Speaker 2: So that's not going to happen now. A key provision
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  Speaker 2: would have American companies build the enrichment facility in Saudi
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  Speaker 2: Arabia if a joint US Saudi study determines that the
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  Speaker 2: step would be warranted.
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  Speaker 1: The deal expected to be submitted to Congress for review
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  Speaker 1: in the next few days.
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  Speaker 2: Is as I said, fairly controversial because now we're going
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  Speaker 2: to have a state in the Middle East that has nukes,
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  Speaker 2: or at least a peaceful nuclear power. And again, Saudi
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  Speaker 2: Arabia is short of Israel is one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: allies we have in the Mid East, and that has
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  Speaker 2: more to do with being afraid of Tehran than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: And so we're looking for the core to be signed.
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  Speaker 2: US Energy Secretary Chris Wright has said the agreement could
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  Speaker 2: help revitalize the US nuclear industry, strengthen US Saudi ties,
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  Speaker 2: and I think more importantly, or at least as importantly,
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  Speaker 2: is deny Russia and China a strategically important role in
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  Speaker 2: the Saudi nuclear program. Both Russia and China have pretty
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  Speaker 2: sophisticated nuclear programs. I mean, they both have the bomb,
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  Speaker 2: and they both have peaceful reactors. So it's for a
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  Speaker 2: country to establish its footprint in the nuclear world among
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia or other countries, is, I guess a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Einhorn also said unless it contains adequate constraints, including enrichment,
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  Speaker 2: it could increase nuclear proliferation risks in the Mid East. Now,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that I think is important, and
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  Speaker 2: this is where the President has said in part of
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  Speaker 2: his philosophy, is of course pitching business to American companies.
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  Speaker 2: The big winner here is going to be Westinghouse Electric.
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  Speaker 2: Their AP one thousand reactor, their Blasto five thousand reactor
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  Speaker 2: would be among the biggest beneficiaries of the deal. And
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  Speaker 2: once it is installed, it is no longer the AP
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  Speaker 2: one thousand reactor. It becomes the Saudi A la Akbar reactor,
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  Speaker 2: which is, let me tell you the power of this thing.
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  Speaker 2: It produces eleven megawats of electricity. It's enough power enough
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  Speaker 2: to power a mid size city or you ready for this,
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  Speaker 2: a mid size city or a major AI data center.
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  Speaker 2: That's how much electricity is sucked up by AI data centers,
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  Speaker 2: enough to power a mid size city. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: is hundreds of thousands of.
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  Speaker 1: Homes.
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  Speaker 2: And the issue is why hasn't happened before? Actually, the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration was on its way to do exactly that. However,
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  Speaker 2: a caveat with the Biden administration is Saudi Arabia would
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  Speaker 2: have to normalize relations with Israel, part of the Abraham Accords,
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  Speaker 2: in which the President pushed very hard and rightly. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's no issue there to have as many
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  Speaker 2: countries in the Mideast to recognize Israel as a state. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of fell apart, and Saudi Arabia was about
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  Speaker 2: to do that when October seventh happened, and of course
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  Speaker 2: it all went to hell in a handbasket. And so
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  Speaker 2: what's this all about. It's both about money, because that's
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  Speaker 2: no small amount of money to build a nuclear reactor
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  Speaker 2: and bring in nuclear power at all. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: is billions of dollars and a lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: going to be employed to do exactly that. And at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, it has all kinds of geopolitical issues connected.
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  Speaker 2: We want the Mid East to rely on us, to
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  Speaker 2: look at US as allies, as opposed to Russia or China,
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  Speaker 2: who are make going balls to the wall around the
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  Speaker 2: world to connect economically and politically any way they can.
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  Speaker 1: So there we go. Is it going to happen? I
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  Speaker 1: probably am Saudi Arabia? Okay? Who would have thunk? Who
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  Speaker 1: would have thunk? Now?
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about what's going on with the
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  Speaker 2: green card applicants, as well as the general philosophy of
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  Speaker 2: President Trump and immigrants. We start with that the president
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  Speaker 2: does not like immigrants. Well, I don't know if that's true.
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  Speaker 2: He does not like undocumented immigrants. He doesn't like immigrants
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  Speaker 2: who are not going to be are not going to
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  Speaker 2: be a benefit to the United States. And therein I
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  Speaker 2: think you have to look at what his philosophy is,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he is right on a lot of this.
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  Speaker 2: And so what the government State Department is developing a
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  Speaker 2: program that is considering placing a bond of one hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars on some Green card seekers applying at US
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  Speaker 2: consulate's abroad. In other words, that's the way it's done
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  Speaker 2: is you go and apply for Green card status. You're
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  Speaker 2: out of the country, you go to the local consulate
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  Speaker 2: and you get your green card and they do a
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  Speaker 2: whole background search, et cetera. And what the President is
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  Speaker 2: saying effectively is we want people that are going to
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  Speaker 2: be positive for America, not negative, negative being people who
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  Speaker 2: are not clearly undocumented. I mean, you know how he
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  Speaker 2: feels about that. But also people that aren't going to
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  Speaker 2: do more for America than take from America. And he've
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  Speaker 2: views more for America people who have money, people who
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  Speaker 2: have skills, and therein lies simply the level of what
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  Speaker 2: it takes to come in. Now, a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: argue he's made it almost impossible, and he has you
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  Speaker 2: have to have a ton of money to put up
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  Speaker 2: a bond of one hundred thousand dollars, and when do
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  Speaker 2: you get it back when you get citizenship. So one
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  Speaker 2: hundred grand bond and so by the way, citizenship takes
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  Speaker 2: at least five years. And the idea is still under discussion,
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  Speaker 2: but it centered on applying making those bonds necessary for
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  Speaker 2: applicants for immigrant visa, all right, and then they get
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  Speaker 2: a green card at the Consolantly, they get a green
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  Speaker 2: card overseas, so they arrive with a green card. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the bond amount would vary based on individual cases and
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  Speaker 2: could be above or below that figure. The point is
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  Speaker 2: it used to be far, far less expensive than that.
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  Speaker 2: And I go back to the story of my parents
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  Speaker 2: who came to the United States and they got their
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  Speaker 2: entry visa, they got their green card in nineteen fifty six.
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  Speaker 2: My dad went first, and my mom and my brother
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  Speaker 2: and I followed. And as they tell the story, keep
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  Speaker 2: in mind, they had no money when they came. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't have one hundred dollars in their pockets. But the
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  Speaker 2: counselor office said, the councilor said, after a full background
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  Speaker 2: check was done, looked at my mom, looked at my dad,
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  Speaker 2: and said, you're the kind of people we want in
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  Speaker 2: the United States. Highly educated, certainly, not to come to
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  Speaker 2: the United States to receive services, to receive governmental services,
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  Speaker 2: to be on the dole. People that are willing to
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  Speaker 2: come with education and willing to work. And that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what happened. My folks never ever got any governmental help,
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  Speaker 2: nor do.
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  Speaker 1: They want it.
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  Speaker 2: And so what the President is saying, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: limit the number of people who come in.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to have the bucks to come in. He's
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  Speaker 1: not a loan.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, many many countries, before you make immigration,
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  Speaker 2: you go immigrate. As a matter of fact, most of
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  Speaker 2: them say, you know, we want to make sure you
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  Speaker 2: have enough bucks with you, or skill levels and maybe
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  Speaker 2: a job waiting H one B visas.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 2: Companies that want to bring in highly skilled individual and
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  Speaker 2: an H one B visa one hundred thousand dollars bond
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  Speaker 2: think actually it's one hundred thousand dollars application fee, much
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  Speaker 2: less of a bond, which precludes a lot of smaller companies.
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  Speaker 2: So I agree with the president. I just think the
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  Speaker 2: number is way high. And the argument that's against what
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  Speaker 2: the President is doing is this is really not limiting
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  Speaker 2: folks who are a benefit for America. What it is
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  Speaker 2: is limiting folks who don't have money. That's what it's about.
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  Speaker 2: It's saying to the world we don't want immigrants. Now
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  Speaker 2: the United States, this is certainly not the only country
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  Speaker 2: that does that.
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  Speaker 1: Most of Europe is now doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Sweden, Scandinavian countries which used to have all of their
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  Speaker 2: arms open, when it's India because they have you know,
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  Speaker 2: their gods have sixteen arms. The Japanese, for example, have
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  Speaker 2: never wonted immigrants. It's almost impossible to get status citizenry
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  Speaker 2: or their version of a green card. You have a
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  Speaker 2: good part of Europe now doing that. They've gone from
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  Speaker 2: open arms philosophy and a policy to limiting people to
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  Speaker 2: come in because of the influx of immigrants coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Now the immigrants are coming in and you can't blame them.
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  Speaker 2: They just want the opportunity to feed their families. They're
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  Speaker 2: coming from countries where either they're persecuted, where they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be killed, where they're never going to work. Get
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  Speaker 2: a job in Mexico, for example, if you don't have
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  Speaker 2: a skill set, you won't So what are the what
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  Speaker 2: are South Americans do? And Mexicans they come over the
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  Speaker 2: United States to work to send money back home for
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  Speaker 2: families to eat, and they come over illegally, and therein
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  Speaker 2: lies the problem. So once again, I think the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration is right on limiting folks who are going to
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  Speaker 2: be a benefit to the United States, which is direct
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  Speaker 2: contrasts to the philosophy is we are here to benefit
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  Speaker 2: those folks who need the help it. It's a tough
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  Speaker 2: issue on both sides. Everybody has an argument, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Something new in the world of therapy. It's a thing now.
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  Speaker 2: Some therapists are encouraging patients to cut ties with family
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  Speaker 2: members as a form of self care. Now that's sparking
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  Speaker 2: a lot of debate among relationship researchers. So there was
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  Speaker 2: a survey in April seven thousand estranged parents were surveyed.
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  Speaker 2: A third believe that the therapists, the child's therapists, influenced
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  Speaker 2: the decision to end the relationship, and critics are warning
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  Speaker 2: in strang that estrangement has long term consequences. Research shows
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  Speaker 2: those who cut ties often experience higher rates of depression.
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  Speaker 2: But there is another side to it that we have
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  Speaker 2: really looked at it. After decades urging families to communicate
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  Speaker 2: better work on their issues together, some therapists are going
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  Speaker 2: the other way completely. They hold that advising parents' patients
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  Speaker 2: to consider a cutoff that they deem toxic or supportive
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  Speaker 2: can actually protect mental health, allow for emotional growth or
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  Speaker 2: emotional growth. Meanwhile, critics, and many of them are Researchers
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  Speaker 2: who have studied this for decades say that it encourages
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  Speaker 2: centered and centeredness, self centeredness, and self delusion and ruin
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  Speaker 2: families if in fact, you do cut off ties in.
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  Speaker 2: Most therapists agree, well, some people are satisfied. Why because
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  Speaker 2: if the parents or the kids were physically or emotionally abusive,
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  Speaker 2: or the parents were then it makes sense to cut
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  Speaker 2: off the connection. But what is changing is the bar.
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  Speaker 2: What is abusive enough? The bar has been lowered in
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  Speaker 2: terms of abusiveness. We're emphasizing fragility. Everything becomes trauma and
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  Speaker 2: here's a solution, split leave. And that is problematic for
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  Speaker 2: many people, particularly those that are in therapy today. For example,
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  Speaker 2: I am going to my therapist and I think today
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  Speaker 2: is what Wednesday?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Today, she has me standing on the floor and calls
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  Speaker 2: me a worm as I go into therapy. That's a
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  Speaker 2: regular basis for me. According to William Doherty, who is
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  Speaker 2: a therapists and a professor emeritus a University of Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: in Family Social services, he says that you know.
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  Speaker 1: What, we're way way to.
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  Speaker 2: We're way too emphasizing fragility and trauma because it's really
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  Speaker 2: not about twenty five percent of the US population is
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  Speaker 2: estranged or it's cut ties with a close relative.
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  Speaker 1: At any time.
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  Speaker 2: Ten percent is strange from a parent or a child.
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  Speaker 2: And so what's happening with this? Well, of course, social
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  Speaker 2: media has played a huge role in growing awareness or
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  Speaker 2: going into no contact. And you've got the number of
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  Speaker 2: users sharing personal stories of how cutoffs have improved their
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  Speaker 2: mental health. Which you don't see very much is how
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  Speaker 2: I'm close to my parents and is the best thing
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  Speaker 2: in the world. What you do see a lot on
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  Speaker 2: social media is I have some real problem with my
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  Speaker 2: parents and now that I've cut off all ties, things
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  Speaker 2: are better. You see many more of those stories. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: quick story that I want to share with you with
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  Speaker 2: my kids. My kids, for the most part, have cut
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  Speaker 2: me off. We are estranged from each other. Now here's
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  Speaker 2: the difference. I am thrilled with it. And as a
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  Speaker 2: matter of fact, we all went out to dinner to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate our estrangement, to say we don't want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to each other, no social intercourse. And I had a big,
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  Speaker 2: big dinner. We celebrate, we cake, you know, the candles.
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  Speaker 2: We said, this is our birthday, and everybody we sang
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to each other. So and now Unfortunately, the kids are
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: going to therapy and they're making inroads. Coming.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Gee, Dad, I want to get a little closer to you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's fine that we don't talk to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: each other, so you know, I really don't do that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: my kids. Fortunately, we actually do have a fairly close
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: relationship and it's tied up. Actually, I think what connects
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: us more than anything else in terms of my kids
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: and me, it's called the credit card.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: That's what it's called. That keeps us together.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Nothing more warm your heart more than when
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you see the twins run up to you and go wallet.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah exactly. So are we going to get
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: are we going to stay together?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We are?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I just had a fight
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: with my daughter Pamela. We did, We had words with
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: each other, and after the fight, she texted me and said, Dad,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I love you, and I texted her back and said,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm really sorry. But it really is a thing, There's
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: no question about it. Therapists are going the other way,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and it makes it makes sense under certain circumstances. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the problem is when do you realize when the relationship
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: is toxic enough to bail out?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Are you too close?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Is it the forest for the trees, and so you
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: go to a therapist and you go through it. Then
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you decide or the therapist helps you decide. And now
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of therapists that are going, uh, you
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: want to cut your ties.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's just healthier, could be. Just wanted to share that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Just a new socio sociological view and what's going on
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in America. I love those how we're changing. Okay, now
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: here is a tough one on how we are changing,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and that is food stamps and how many people are
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: losing their food stamps. And I'll share that story with you.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And this one is a heartbreaker. This is KFI AM
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• 23:53
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• 23:55
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