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Ohio State Football Insider: What We Learned Inside Buckeyes' Spring Practice Today · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, March twentieth time,
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  Speaker 1: inside the wood he Haes Athletics Center. Tony, you just
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to watch spring practice number two for
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  Speaker 1: the Buckeyes. Got a chance to talk to the quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to the running backs. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about. I'm sure, knowing
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  Speaker 1: knowing our audience as I do, I'm going to guess
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  Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks are going to do the first thing
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  Speaker 1: they're going to want to hear about. So what did
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  Speaker 1: we see from the quarterbacks? First? Before we get to
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  Speaker 1: what we heard from the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, again, there, as Ryan Dey said, they're going to
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  Speaker 2: roll through. So they're all taking the equal number of reps.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed today that sometimes Julian Sane was going first.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes like in Kenos was going first. During during these raps,
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  Speaker 2: watch them do the one inch drill, which we talked
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  Speaker 2: about every year, where they're throwing over the top of
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  Speaker 2: a baseball backstop type of fence and you want to
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  Speaker 2: skim it right over, get as close to touching without
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  Speaker 2: touching it as you can as you're throwing it pass
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  Speaker 2: to a receiver. A staffer standing on the other side
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  Speaker 2: just the fence represents an intermediate defender like dropping back
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  Speaker 2: into his own a linebacker or something, and so you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to loft it because then the safety would
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  Speaker 2: break it up crashing on receiver. So you want to
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  Speaker 2: keep it close. And I found like at Keynots did
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  Speaker 2: a really good job was I'd say the most impressive
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  Speaker 2: of the three getting it as close to the fence
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  Speaker 2: as possible. And I've got video of that on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: that you can check out after watching this if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen it already.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always one that is really interesting to watch
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  Speaker 1: because it requires this incredible amount of its arm strength
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  Speaker 1: because this is not like you're throwing a five yard
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  Speaker 1: like dump off to a wide receiver. This is generally
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  Speaker 1: like twenty five thirty yard out and they're throwing it
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to get it just just above that screen.
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  Speaker 1: But plenty of times you'll hear the klang and someone
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  Speaker 1: is going one inch too low or several inches too low.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that is that is a Ryan Day staple.
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  Speaker 1: I've leieve that showed up with him in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: First I saw it. Yeah, So that's that is a
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  Speaker 1: classic Ryan Day drill. Good to see that one back.
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  Speaker 1: That's when we'll see at camps in June as well,
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  Speaker 1: with some of the some of the young quarterbacks being here.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of young quarterbacks, before we transition back to the
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  Speaker 1: twenty the current roster twenty twenty six sorry, quarterback Bo
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  Speaker 1: Bentley out of Salina, Texas. He was here today. He
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  Speaker 1: was watching stuff very closely. He's relatively highly rated if
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  Speaker 1: he's a top one hundred recruit by several of the services,
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  Speaker 1: so he was here. There's been a lot of kind
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  Speaker 1: of big name recruits here. We saw Micah champ Smith,
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  Speaker 1: one of the very top offensive line targets here for
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  Speaker 1: practice in Rwander on Parks was here an offensive line target.
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  Speaker 1: He was here for practice one, but there's been a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of those recruits here at practice. Just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: kind of mention that at least before you get kind
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  Speaker 1: of back to the current, you know, sort of stuff
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  Speaker 1: on the table, and you know that is this year's quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: Were you around for Julian the entire time? What did
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  Speaker 1: you hear from Julian?
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  Speaker 2: Saying I wasn't really listening. Now, one of the a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the talk is like, what have you guys
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  Speaker 2: learned from Will Howard or you Will Howard? You know,
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  Speaker 2: how do you implement that kind of leadership? And you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to lead your own way, he said to
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  Speaker 2: Will Howard came in and was liked by everybody, and
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  Speaker 2: so then I asked, like does everybody like you? It's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying, you know, you do your best. You try
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  Speaker 2: to be friendly with everybody, checking on everybody. But then
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  Speaker 2: the other question that I was asking the quarterbacks and
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  Speaker 2: also Billy Fessler is Ryan Day has said he wants
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks to be the toughest guys on the team.
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  Speaker 2: How do you do that when nobody can touch you?
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of it is just the the mental toughness,
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  Speaker 2: and it's Lincoln Keno said of just making the play
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  Speaker 2: when the players there to be made, but Julian saying
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  Speaker 2: was saying the same thing, like even just running through
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  Speaker 2: your handoffs, just the mental reps while somebody else is repping,
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  Speaker 2: you're back there paying attention to it and just showing
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  Speaker 2: that you were always locked in. And Billy Fessler said
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. He's like, imagine your Austin Seerveld watching
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  Speaker 2: the watching your tape, but then you're also watching the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're watching, you look at Julian saying, who's
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  Speaker 2: not repping, but he's taking metal reps. That's gonna trigger
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  Speaker 2: in your mind, Okay, I can trust this guy. So
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  Speaker 2: Julian saying a big on the mental aspect of it,
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  Speaker 2: which that's Ryan day being a quarterback is what he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna tell his quarterbacks they need to worry about. But
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  Speaker 2: just being able to handle everything that comes with this,
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  Speaker 2: And that was another of the questions, like do you
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  Speaker 2: you understand it if you win this job, all of
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  Speaker 2: the eyes that are gonna be on you. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that kind of comes with the territory from
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  Speaker 2: just being a quarterback. But you know he saw, he said,
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  Speaker 2: I saw with Will Howard last year. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: saw how the attention negative positive. And he also said,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to block that out, like I guess
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  Speaker 2: you can. I guess it's okay to look at it
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  Speaker 2: when you're the third string quarterback, but when you are
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  Speaker 2: the starter, you can't let it impact you in any way.
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  Speaker 2: You can just gotta ignore it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that goes a little bit to something
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  Speaker 1: that Lincoln Keenhole said. And there are certain phrase you
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  Speaker 1: hear over the years from different guys, and this is
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  Speaker 1: probably the first time I heard it from Lincoln Kinghols,
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  Speaker 1: but it's something we've heard over the years of this
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  Speaker 1: building a bunch, which means it's something they say in
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  Speaker 1: this building a bunch, and that is pressure is a privilege.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're the starting quarterback at Ohio State, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're under a ton of pressure that comes with you know,
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  Speaker 1: being the starting quarterback at Ohio State comes with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of benefits and it comes with a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 1: And that's something that all of these guys, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone has sort of You've seen it with
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  Speaker 1: Will Howard, You've seen it with com accord. You've seen
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  Speaker 1: it with c. J. Stroud, You've seen it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: all the guys over the years. You're sort of you're
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  Speaker 1: accepting that deal by sort of getting into that competition
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  Speaker 1: in the first place. And another thing we've heard a
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  Speaker 1: lot this spring is Ohio State isn't for everyone. That
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  Speaker 1: one that's a new one. That one I have not
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  Speaker 1: heard in previous seasons. But you know, that's not them
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  Speaker 1: saying get out, we don't want to the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 1: That's them saying, there is an expectation here. The expectation
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  Speaker 1: is not just going to change because you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to live up to the expectation or you can't live
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  Speaker 1: up to the expectation. The expectation is the expectation. If
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  Speaker 1: that's not for you, that's fine. Ohio State isn't for everyone.
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  Speaker 1: That was another thing that Lincoln Kinghols talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Billy Fessler said it as well, like they suss that
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  Speaker 2: out in recruiting when he was asked, you know, do
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you've got three quarterbacks that can start
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State in terms of like handling all of this,
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  Speaker 2: and said like, yeah, I think so. You deal with
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  Speaker 2: that in recruiting and you can tell pretty quickly or
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  Speaker 2: even eventually the guys who are like, well, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that they can handle the pressure. Because over the
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  Speaker 2: past say ten twelve years at Ohio State, about the
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  Speaker 2: only quarterback that didn't receive some really harsh criticism was
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  Speaker 2: maybe Justin Fields and maybe Dwayne Haskins because he was
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  Speaker 2: only here for a year, But like c J. Stroud
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  Speaker 2: was not well.
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  Speaker 1: Like I apparently don't remember Justin Field or Dwayne Haskins
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  Speaker 1: trying to run the ball or not.
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  Speaker 2: Winning the ball, that is correct, but like Justin Field's
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  Speaker 2: kind of got out of here because he beat Michigan
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  Speaker 2: once and didn't get to play them second time. None
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  Speaker 2: of the playoff losses where I would say his fault,
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  Speaker 2: but you know c J. Stroud struggling against Oregon as
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  Speaker 2: a red shirt freshman, not beating like there was plenty
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  Speaker 2: of criticism where his relationship with the fans was not
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  Speaker 2: always great. And Will Howard, you know, with a couple
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  Speaker 2: of mistakes he would make, you know, in a game,
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  Speaker 2: and not always great, but eventually becomes well loved. J. T. Barrett,
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  Speaker 2: you know, was one of the all time greats, but
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  Speaker 2: also somebody that could only get them so far and
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  Speaker 2: would anger people. So there's you can be one of
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  Speaker 2: the all time greats and still receive plenty of criticism
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  Speaker 2: and it's a lot to handle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a lot to handle, but as we said,
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  Speaker 1: a lot comes with that. And someone who is just
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  Speaker 1: sort of starting that process is tav In Saint Clair,
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  Speaker 1: and he's he has a little bit more of a
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  Speaker 1: head start even than a lot of the other freshmen
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  Speaker 1: because he's been around this building so much. We saw him,
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  Speaker 1: i think literally every game the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: We saw him at practices. You would see him at
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  Speaker 1: you know, he'd be around the building. Anytime you were
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  Speaker 1: around the building, you felt like you saw Tavian Saint Clair.
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  Speaker 1: And he's gotten you know. He talked about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that that is a little bit of a head start,
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  Speaker 1: just learning the culture, being able to see what last
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  Speaker 1: year's team really went through, you know, and not the
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  Speaker 1: benefit a lot of these freshmen got. When you know,
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  Speaker 1: they they went to the Rose Bowl, they went to
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  Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl, but they were at these practices too,
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  Speaker 1: where you saw it wasn't just you know, oh look
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  Speaker 1: we're standing here and we're look we're in the confetti
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  Speaker 1: and we get pictures and it's well, it's what a
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  Speaker 1: fun time. It's like, No, they saw all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that led up to that, and that's a really that's
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  Speaker 1: a really really big part of that, and that's helped
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys sort of adjust to the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State expectations in the Ohio State culture, I think
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  Speaker 1: a little quicker. Davian talked about the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: because he's been around so much even before that, he
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  Speaker 1: was able to sort of be a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a leader within his class to sort of tell guys like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is where this is in the building because he
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  Speaker 1: like he's you know, he's your you know. David Lee
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  Speaker 1: Roth with the was it your guide on the in
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  Speaker 1: the California Girls video? That wasn't Kavian's exact way he
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  Speaker 1: explained it, but that is basically.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any more recent references?
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  Speaker 1: No, but thank you for asking. He was another one
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  Speaker 1: who said it's going to be hard. Ohio State is
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  Speaker 1: not for everyone, but it's you know, he said he
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  Speaker 1: talked to Julian saying a little bit about what his
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  Speaker 1: transition was like last year, and it sounds like Kavian
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  Speaker 1: feels like his transition to Ohio State has probably been
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  Speaker 1: a little bit smoother than Julian Sand's because Julian Saying
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  Speaker 1: literally started at a different school and then transferred to
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Julian san started that acclamation process at Alabama
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  Speaker 1: and then transferred to Ohio State. So you know, he
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  Speaker 1: could if any of these Ohio State players want tour
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  Speaker 1: the Alabama building, Julian Sanye could probably help them with that.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, and probably not anymore of that, Probably
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  Speaker 1: not anymore his his thumb print may not work on
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  Speaker 1: the system though, But but it's something where obviously now
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  Speaker 1: Julian Saying is taking a leadership role. Lincoln Keenhill's talked
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that that's an area where he's grown
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  Speaker 1: the most is in leadership. He was also asked about
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  Speaker 1: being the oldest guy in the room, and he's is weird,
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  Speaker 1: it just goes by so quickly because he just got
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  Speaker 1: here in the summer of twenty twenty three, and now
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  Speaker 1: he's the old head in that room. And that's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty three was not that long ago,
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  Speaker 1: and he was the young, inexperienced guy who really unfairly
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  Speaker 1: got thrown into that Cotton Bowl, and that was only
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  Speaker 1: like a little over one year ago. That was like
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  Speaker 1: fourteen months ago, fifteen months ago, and now he's the
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  Speaker 1: old guy in the room, so that that was a
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  Speaker 1: little weird, I think for him as well anything else
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  Speaker 1: on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just when we do these things, like you
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  Speaker 2: can watch the players grow in terms of how they
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  Speaker 2: interview and Lincoln Keynolts would be previously just you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like how like the voice will warble a
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  Speaker 2: little bit when they're not used to doing this, Like
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  Speaker 2: there's no there's no warbling anywhere. Like he's a very
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  Speaker 2: confident and composed quarterback and it's because of being the
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  Speaker 2: oldest guy in the room. Being around this is nothing new,
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  Speaker 2: so like he is just does not that it should
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  Speaker 2: phase them, but there players who come out here and
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  Speaker 2: there's a little nerves to them, and there's there's no
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  Speaker 2: nerves anymore with them, which is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it's funny because you see this, it's like
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  Speaker 1: this this annual cycle. And as tav and Saint Clair
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  Speaker 1: was up there talking, one of the freshmen defensive linemen
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  Speaker 1: was standing right next to me and was just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like watching and like okay, what's this, Like, how
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  Speaker 1: does this work? And when the Sids came up to
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  Speaker 1: him and was sort of like talking to him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about like, Okay, here's what to expect and
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  Speaker 1: here's how this works because we'll get the defensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit. So, you know, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: that long ago that we were having this conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer in the spring, and then JT. Twey Mooloo
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  Speaker 1: showed up in the summer, and you know, we and
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  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, look at these look at these
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  Speaker 1: new guys. And before that it was like, oh, Chase Young,
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  Speaker 1: well he's bigger than I thought, but he's just a freshman.
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  Speaker 1: And like it does go quick as as everyone seems
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  Speaker 1: to say. Onto the running backs. I'll start with CJ. Donaldson.
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  Speaker 1: C J. Donaldson transfer from from West Virginia. He got
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  Speaker 1: to Ohio State at two hundred and forty three pounds
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  Speaker 1: and basically said coach Mick looked at him and just
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  Speaker 1: was like nuh nah, and said he's lost eighteen pounds already,
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  Speaker 1: so he's down to two twenty five. Sounds like that's
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  Speaker 1: probably about where he's gonna play, But said he just
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  Speaker 1: he feels a lot faster. They wanted him to have more,
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  Speaker 1: be more explosive, have more short area burst. Feels like
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  Speaker 1: he's got. That's he is pretty solidly built. If you
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  Speaker 1: just I have some photos that will I've thrown up
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  Speaker 1: on our huddle board A Jeff presented by Jeffruby's columbus
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  Speaker 1: at Buckeyhudle dot com. He said, you know, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: promised anything here, like you weren't promised anything for your job.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't promised anything to come here. He also said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he knows this could be his last year
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  Speaker 1: of football. That's why he's really focused. Because he said,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing promise passed this year where sure you could
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  Speaker 1: go to the NFL. Not everyone goes to the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, nothing promised to get him here, nothing
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  Speaker 1: promised past this year. He said that Taiwan Malone has
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  Speaker 1: really helped him out as a transfer. Just in terms
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  Speaker 1: of which I thought, I don't think he's from Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: He's not Tailan. Malone is a New Jersey guy. C J.
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  Speaker 1: Donaldson is a Miami guy. I was like, wherever they
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  Speaker 1: never known each other from? But I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: But he said tailand Malone has been really helpful just
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  Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, sort of getting him acclimated
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  Speaker 1: in terms of, like, so you might have done some
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  Speaker 1: things differently at your previous school. He's like, we don't
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  Speaker 1: do that here basically. So there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that. He also said he was working
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  Speaker 1: on the sled during workouts and said James Peoples was
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  Speaker 1: like kicking his butt on the sled during workouts, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, was like trying to help him and you know,
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  Speaker 1: encourage him and all that kind of stuff. But I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was, you know, with expectations being as high
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  Speaker 1: as they are for James Peoples and him just being
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  Speaker 1: a second year guy and C. J. Donaldson having been
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  Speaker 1: already a relatively high level college back, I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, file that one away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, welcome to Ohio State. This is what's
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen. And so, yeah, he said a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about how he's James Pigles was pushing him, and that
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  Speaker 2: was interesting that you've got a guy who is now
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  Speaker 2: a senior being pushed by the sophomore and realizing I've
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  Speaker 2: got to kick it up a notch. I talked with
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  Speaker 2: Sam Williams Dixon. And it was pretty fascinating because you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy that went into the portal and then
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  Speaker 2: came back. And when his answer when he was asked
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  Speaker 2: like why did you go? And he said me listening
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  Speaker 2: to the wrong people, and they said I did them
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  Speaker 2: and well, and then he else said I didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to leave. And so I asked him like, what is
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  Speaker 2: it tough when you've got people in your ear telling
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  Speaker 2: you to go? And he's like, it was basically peers
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  Speaker 2: telling him to go, and I'm not now like James
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  Speaker 2: people is like, you know what you want to do?
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  Speaker 2: Not like that? Yeah, but you know, just friends basically
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  Speaker 2: I would assume. And and so he said he wanted
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  Speaker 2: to come back. I didn't really have like a tremendous
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  Speaker 2: relationship with Locke like Carlos Lochlin. Not that it was bad,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: it's just they didn't didn't talk much. And I said,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: well was that, Like who's fault is that? And he's like,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, did you have to be more aggressive?
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, it was on me because I not
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: a guy that talks a lot. So I had to
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: be much more, like much more forthcoming and aggressive and
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: seeking out the coaching and just the relationship, and you said,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: it's really taken off and he's pretty happy. He kept
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: talking about how I had to grow up, and so
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: that's a common refrain from a lot of true freshmen
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: who come to Ohio State to go anywhere. You know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: you know, you got to grow up. That's what the
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: freshman year is for for a lot of us.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Sophomore Kevin Givin's over there, you gestured in the wrong direction.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Isaiah West speaking of true freshmen, he has had to
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: adjust to not being on the field right now. He
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he's just you know, I
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: don't think this isn't didn't sound like this is like
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: season ending or anything, but just banged up right now
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and not out there. He said, that's been very tough
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: to just watch these guys and you're on the sideline
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure, you know, mental reps only go so
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: far with all of this stuff, and to be missing things.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: You know, you you graduated high school early, you left
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: to your high school friends early, you came here and
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: you you know, and the whole point was you're going
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: to get a little bit of a leg up. And
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: now the leg up is not quite as big as
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: it might have otherwise been, so that that I think
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: was difficult, you know, probably a little bit difficult for
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: him as an adjustment. He did say, it just blew
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: him away to be with the team throughout the playoff run,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: and that was such an important thing, he said. His
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from that, I thought this was an interesting one.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: A player led team is going to beat a coach
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: led team every time. I thought that was an interesting, interesting,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: uh takeaway. And you know that was that was a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: very player led team. And you know, that goes back
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to the meeting, the meetings after the Michigan game, the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: well documented meetings after the Michigan game and all that
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And you know, but I think that
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: that's that's an interesting lesson and it's certainly something that
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you know, when they talk about the culture in the building,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that's a big part of it is that it's not
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: just you know, listening to the coach and say okay
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and doing it. It's there's a you know, the players
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: have to be the leaders, and the players have to
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't you don't go out and you
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you know, get to the building at six am because
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the coaches told you to do it. You get there
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: because Marvin Harrison is there and he's got the key
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: for the lights, and you turn on the lights. We
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: saw after practice there are guys out there working, you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: continuing to work after practice. That's a standard thing here.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, and it's not just it's not just
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the crew freshman. We saw Crew freshman out there, but
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it's also Caleb Downs is out there. Jeremiah Smith is
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: out there. If Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs are out
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: there practicing a little bit more, like everyone could probably
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: use a little more practice. You know.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It was interesting interesting during the practice watching the vets,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: like Brandon Innis was coaching up, Philip Bell on blocking,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: he was coaching up and just watching, just keeping an
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: eye on like Dizzy Jones running routes, like being that leader.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But it is the idea that they saw these freshmen,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: saw how what it took and saw it saw it happened.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of times you get concerned, like the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: freshmen come in after national championship and think, well this
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: just happens, and they got to see that it doesn't
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: just happen. And so that's always where that's the culture
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: thing where you've got to see, like they got to
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: see how the sausage is made. It doesn't just show
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: up on the McMuffin, like they got to really get
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: in there and they got to take the hatch into
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: some hogs.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Basically speaking of speaking of knowledge, speaking of as said
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: that that coach Lachlann told him make knowledge your best talent.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Like that's and that's you know a lot of the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: detail stuff. And now with something that Tavian Saint Clair
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: talked about, Tavian Saint Claire talked about the fact that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in high school they didn't run under center stuff. They
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: really just ran stuff out of shotgun. So there's little
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: just very minute technique kind of stuff with taking a
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: snap from under center that they're working with. But that's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all the stuff. It's the blocking, it's the hand placement
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: in the blocking, it's the hand fighting with the defensive line.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: It's but that's the little sill, you know, the little
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: stuff that you're not talking about on the broadcast on Saturdays.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: But it's the little stuff that makes a big friends.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And that's the stuff that these you know, these veterans
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: are kind of trying to emphasize one last thing for
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Isaiah West. He talked about Maxwell Roy, defensive lineman. They're
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: from the same high school. They're both from Saint Joseph's Prep,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: which has been a school that has brought a lot
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of folks to Ohio State over the years. Kyle McCord,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison, Jim Knowles, I'm missing anyone, feel like I'm
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: missing one more. You might be Jeremiah Trotter, but he
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: didn't go to Ohio State, but there were Yeah, that
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: is a high school that's produced a lot of talent
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: over the years. He talked about the fact that you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: as kids, they talked about like, oh maybe we'll go
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: play in college together. And you know, how often does
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you know the package deal sort of fall apart in recruiting,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: but they did did end up coming to the same place.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Anyone else that you had.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: No, We've covered it because again I was stayed with
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Julian Saying, stayed with Billy Fesslaer, and you know it
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: was it was a good day. Plenty of stuff And
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of course you can check out Tom they can find
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that all talking to us, all talking all about it
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: at buckeheader dot com on the YouTube, on the podcast
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Go Ahead and.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have through the course of the day and
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: probably into the night, we'll have interviews like the full
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: interviews with these guys. We have a bunch of that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: stuff already up for our members at Buckeye huddle dot
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: com on the huddleboard presented by Jefferby's Columbus. I put
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the TV in Saint Clair interview up first because I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: know that's one of the people are probably gonna be
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: very interested in. But we'll have we have a bunch
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of others already up there as well, and then photos
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: all sorts of Tony has a full practice report there.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: All that stuff all at Buckey huddle dot com. We
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: hope to see you there. That'll do it for today.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.