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Credlin | 23 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kwendland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: I don't even think a robot was fixing to Racault,
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Speaker 2: and they're in a very bad way. And I bery
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Speaker 2: for Richmond. So that's pot callner the kettle black?
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Speaker 3: Is it?
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Speaker 2: At good evening? Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Kredline. The push to introduce a tax
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Speaker 2: on gas exports ramps up. But tonight I'm going to
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Speaker 2: cut through the spin from the left who wants you
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Speaker 2: to think the gas companies don't pay tax. They do,
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Speaker 2: and they pay billions. Class said Ndis announcement yesterday. Call
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Speaker 2: me cynical, but I reckon it's a whole lot of
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Speaker 2: smoke and mirrors. Ahead of ANZAC Day, I'm going to
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Speaker 2: speak with a former SAS soldier about what the day
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Speaker 2: means to him and the black cloud that, unfortunately for
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Speaker 2: many of his mates, will hang over this year. Following
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Speaker 2: the arrest of Ben Robert Smith. He's also spoken to
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Speaker 2: the family of Ben and we've got you an update.
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Speaker 2: Class have long discussed the worrying influence of the trans
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Speaker 2: activist lobby group ACON and its influence on key institutions.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we know that, but concerns now about Australia's
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Speaker 2: Medical Regulator. We'll get into that too. And this madness
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Speaker 2: today of changes to the National Construction Code to require
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Speaker 2: that half of all new public toilets be gender neutral.
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Speaker 4: Under a Liberal and Nationals government, I lead Victoria will
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Speaker 4: not be signing up to this. It isn't in line
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Speaker 4: with community expectations. I think most Victorians are comfortable with
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Speaker 4: male and female toilets.
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with that one. Because of all the modern badness,
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Speaker 2: for me, the most infuriating is the trashing of women's
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Speaker 2: rights to the name of trans rights. As anyone who's
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Speaker 2: been to a big sports stadium like the mcg or
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Speaker 2: a concert would know, there's always a cube outside the
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Speaker 2: women's toilets because there's never enough of them, and women
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Speaker 2: tend to have to go more often and invariably we
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Speaker 2: take longer. Now. I don't want to spell it out.
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Speaker 2: I know you're not a snowflakes, but you get all
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Speaker 2: of this now in May twenty twenty four and not
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Speaker 2: befure time. The National Construction Co that's the set of
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Speaker 2: governing rules that are required for particular types of buildings. Well,
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Speaker 2: it looked at changes to ensure that large new builds,
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Speaker 2: that's to say, sports stadiums, shopping centers and office blocks
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Speaker 2: had to significantly increase the number of toilets for women.
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Speaker 2: And in the documents I might add, they use the
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Speaker 2: word women and men, nothing else. Here's the preamble to
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Speaker 2: the policy paper that's off their website. It says these
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Speaker 2: changes aim to reduce the waiting time to access female
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Speaker 2: toilets at theaters, cinemas and similar venues, including peak times,
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Speaker 2: reducing concerns with discomfort and timely accessibility. Now fair enough too,
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Speaker 2: for the reasons I've outlined earlier, and the fact that
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Speaker 2: women these days are just as interested in big sporting
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Speaker 2: events as men, and in population terms, there's more women
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Speaker 2: than men in Australia, so let's update the rules. Even
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Speaker 2: though there would be a cost to adding these additional toilets,
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Speaker 2: The board that administers the National Construction Code said at
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Speaker 2: the time that delivering this overdue benefit to women meant
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Speaker 2: that the financial impost was secondary.
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Speaker 5: But, as so.
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Speaker 2: Often happens in this crazy world run by the hard left,
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Speaker 2: no sooner than we women gain the sort of recognition.
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Speaker 6: And rights O to us.
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Speaker 2: Transactivists have come along to try and take our wins away.
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Speaker 2: As reported on the front page of newspapers across the
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Speaker 2: country today, there are our plans to mandate a new
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Speaker 2: requirement that at least fifty percent of all public toilets
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Speaker 2: we designated gender neutral. So there goes that big win
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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four of more toilets for women. In
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Speaker 2: other words, we're worse off than where we started. Now.
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Speaker 2: If this change gets up, women and girls we forced
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Speaker 2: to cueue even longer to use female only toilets, or
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Speaker 2: will be forced to use the toilets that are also
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Speaker 2: used by the blokes. Now fair enough, share one at home,
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Speaker 2: but not a public toilet, forget it. But if that
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Speaker 2: was only an objection based on hygiene, well that'd be
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Speaker 2: one thing. The key here is women's privacy and safety,
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Speaker 2: especially at night or in a big shopping center where
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Speaker 2: the toilets are down in the basement or along empty corridors.
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Speaker 2: No woman wants to feel any more unsafe than we
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Speaker 2: already do. But that's the government's plan. If this madness
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Speaker 2: gets up. Now you imagine a thirteen year old girl
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Speaker 2: with a period who must use the toilet. It's nine o'clock,
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Speaker 2: it's in a lonely part of the building, and in
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Speaker 2: she walks and finds there are four men in there
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Speaker 2: milling around. Now, if that was you, or it was
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Speaker 2: your sister or your daughter, try and convince me that
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Speaker 2: they it feels safe, particularly these days. Well you can't
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Speaker 2: to be clear of no issue with gender neutral toilets
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Speaker 2: if it's along the lines of a single person space,
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Speaker 2: as is often the case for someone with a disability.
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Speaker 2: You know, in you walk and only you, you shut
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Speaker 2: the door behind you, and you don't share the space
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Speaker 2: with anyone else. But no way on earth do I
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Speaker 2: support shared public facilities, and nor do the vast majority
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Speaker 2: of Australians. Piling today by the Australian Christian Lobby says
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Speaker 2: that eighty seven percent of people, well, they didn't support
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Speaker 2: this madness, and more than ninety percent of women rejected
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Speaker 2: based on privacy, safety and hygiene grounds. I want to
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Speaker 2: know what happened between the decision and twenty twenty four
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Speaker 2: to have more toilets for women, and there's crazy stuff
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Speaker 2: out there today. I had a good look through all
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Speaker 2: the websites associated with this National Construction Code and from
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Speaker 2: what I can see in minutes, a couple of months ago.
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Speaker 2: November last year, a federal bureaucrat came and spoke to
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Speaker 2: the board to brief them, says the Minutes about a
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Speaker 2: recent meeting of the Housing ministers. So that's a meeting
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Speaker 2: of the mainly labor politicians and then this fairness for
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Speaker 2: women gets overturned and now it's gender toilets for the
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Speaker 2: trans Now is this linked the politicians and this change.
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Speaker 2: I can't confirm it, but I have my suspicions. What
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Speaker 2: I do know is that Australians are fed up to
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Speaker 2: the back teeth with this gender madness. We are sick
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Speaker 2: of women's rights being sacrificed on the altar of biological fakery. Now,
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Speaker 2: you would think that the Construction Code would be the
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Speaker 2: last place to succumb to ideological nonsense, because engineering and physics,
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Speaker 2: well they're all about facts and demonstrable sense. But as
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Speaker 2: long as billers are now expected to enforce rules to
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Speaker 2: put women alongside being in the same toilet block, well,
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Speaker 2: ideology is trump in common sense yet again, at least
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Speaker 2: the Tasmanian Liberal government there has reportedly rejected this proposed
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Speaker 2: new element of the Construction Code, but in a move
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Speaker 2: that won't surprise you, the Allen labor governor in Victoria. Well,
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Speaker 2: they've already confirmed they will adopt this new requirement for
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Speaker 2: gender neutral toilets. Not so the Liberal opposition leader though,
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Speaker 2: Jess Wilson, having this to.
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Speaker 4: Say, under a Liberal and Nationals government I lead, Victoria
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Speaker 4: will not be signing up to this, and if Jacinta
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Speaker 4: Allen does sign us up, we will repeal it. I
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Speaker 4: hear from Victorian's every single day that they want a
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Speaker 4: government that is focused on delivering less red tape, removing
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Speaker 4: the higher cost every day on the construction industry. And
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Speaker 4: what these changes to the construction Code will do will
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Speaker 4: only push up costs. It will only make it harder
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Speaker 4: to build things in Victoria, and it isn't in line
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Speaker 4: with community expectations. I think most Victorians are comfortable with
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Speaker 4: male and female toilets.
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Speaker 2: There you go. She couldn't be clearer, she doesn't support it,
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Speaker 2: and she will scrap it if elected in November. Just
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Speaker 2: another reason why voters have got to throw out the
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Speaker 2: very bad Victorian Labor government. Anzac Day on Saturday, and
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Speaker 2: as we should, we should all stop and thank God
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Speaker 2: for the brave men. And it's mostly men who paid
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Speaker 2: the ultimate sacrifice who have fought and died to keep
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Speaker 2: this country free. Now, as a Christian, there are other
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Speaker 2: days in the calendar of the year that have special
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Speaker 2: meaning to me, but Anzac Day ranks right out there
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Speaker 2: with those I hold most dear because not to put
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Speaker 2: too fine a point on it. Without the ability to
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Speaker 2: live in a land as free as this to openly
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Speaker 2: practice my faith I could there could be no better
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Speaker 2: place for Christians in this world. Australia, and right around
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Speaker 2: the world there are places where they are killed for
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Speaker 2: their faith by extremists. So to me, faith and love
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Speaker 2: of country go hand in hand. One of the reasons
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Speaker 2: why the left has wanted to tear down Australia Day
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Speaker 2: is that, if successful, it will be the start of
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Speaker 2: other days that they regard as aren't acceptable under pressure.
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Speaker 2: So if the twenty sixth of January goes, the twenty
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Speaker 2: fifth of April will be next. Those who want to
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Speaker 2: jeer and condemned so called toxic masculinity are quick to
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Speaker 2: forget that it's strong warrior men by and large have
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Speaker 2: kept us free and will do so tonight and tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: and God willing, in the years ahead, provided, of course,
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Speaker 2: we honor their service. And we don't denigrate it.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: We've spoken a lot here in the past couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks about a certain soldier and his valor. The fact
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Speaker 2: that he now faces the most serious charge a soldier
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Speaker 2: can face is not lost on me or I suspect
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Speaker 2: you tonight, So ahead of Anzac Day, I want to
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Speaker 2: take a moment now to read you the official citation
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Speaker 2: for which ben Robert Smith was awarded the Victoria Cross.
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Speaker 2: I was working at the time for the then leader
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Speaker 2: of the Opposition on this day when it was pinned
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Speaker 2: to his uniform in Canberra, and what he did in
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Speaker 2: Afghanistan on the eleventh of June twenty ten at Tizzak
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Speaker 2: in the province of Kandahar stays with me even now.
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Speaker 2: Now let me read it in part to you, demonstrating
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Speaker 2: extreme devotion to duty and the most conspicuous gallantry in
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Speaker 2: action in the face of a very determined and aggressive enemy,
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Speaker 2: and with a total disregard for his own safety, Corporal
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Speaker 2: Benjamin Robert Smith initiated an assault against an elevated fortification
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Speaker 2: consisting of three enemy machine gun position and superior numbers
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Speaker 2: of heavily armed insurgents with members of his patrol pinned
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Speaker 2: down by three enemy gun positions, he knowingly and willingly
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Speaker 2: exposed his position in order to draw fire away from
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Speaker 2: his teammates and enable them to apply fire against the enemy.
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Speaker 2: Fighting it ranges as close as twenty meters. He seized
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Speaker 2: the advantage and demonstrating extreme devotion to duty and the
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Speaker 2: most conspicuous gallantry with total disregard for his own safety.
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Speaker 2: Corporal Robert Smith stormed two enemy machine gun positions, killing
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Speaker 2: both machine gun teams. His selfless actions in circumstances of
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Speaker 2: great peril served to enable his patrol to break into
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Speaker 2: the enemy's defenses and to regain the initiative, thereby resulting
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Speaker 2: in a tactical victory against an enemy more than three
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Speaker 2: times the size of the ground force. Ben Roberts Smith
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Speaker 2: VCMG for the most conspicuous gallantry and daring in the
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Speaker 2: face of the enemy while in circumstances of extreme peril
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Speaker 2: as a patrol second in command, Special Operations Task Group
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Speaker 2: on Operation Slipper. Lest we forget all right, let's get
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Speaker 2: the headlines now. Skynys political reporter Trudy McIntosh.
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Speaker 7: The Health Minister is promising not to kick people off
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Speaker 7: the NDIS until state based support services re established. Under
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Speaker 7: the changes, everyone on the NDIS will have their support
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Speaker 7: reassessed before twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 8: The NDIS was never intended to have classrooms where four
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Speaker 8: and every ten children were on the NDIS, and the
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Speaker 8: original purpose is what we are aimed at.
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Speaker 7: Around one hundred and sixty thousand people on the scheme
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Speaker 7: today are expected to be removed.
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Speaker 5: Of course, we're not going to change eligibility and move
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Speaker 5: people off the scheme before we're confident and we know
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Speaker 5: the community is confident. There are other systems of support
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Speaker 5: in place.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 10: I think people have got to be realistic about what
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Speaker 10: the States can do.
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Speaker 7: To crack down on fraud. Most providers will now have
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Speaker 7: to be registered and all payments digital.
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Speaker 1: Clearly there are people that should not be on the scheme.
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Speaker 1: Their evidence is manufactured, they don't have the disability that
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Speaker 1: they said they did, such as I don't know them
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Speaker 1: traveling in and out of airports when they're supposedly requiring
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven care in a bed.
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Speaker 7: And After today's National Cabinet meeting, the Prime Minister insists
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Speaker 7: that Australia's fuel supplies remain secure. Work is underway to
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Speaker 7: diversify supply lines the.
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Speaker 8: United States, so traditionally has not been a big supplier,
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Speaker 8: has supplied about eighteen percent.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister confident rationing is not imminent.
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Speaker 8: The trigger is very clear, which is supply now. At
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Speaker 8: this stage, what we have is normal supply.
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Speaker 7: Trudy Macintosh Sky News Camera.
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Speaker 2: All right, lots to get across. Johny me now and
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Speaker 2: the Deputy Executive Director at the IPA, Dan Wild and
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Speaker 2: Sky contributed care on the catsumatis and they are with
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Speaker 2: me in the studio, which is a rare treat before
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Speaker 2: we get to gas. I want to get to gas
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Speaker 2: because a lot around about that today. The NDI is
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Speaker 2: call me cynical, right, I've had plenty of time to
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Speaker 2: look through the announcement, and I've looked at some of
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Speaker 2: the budget phasing out of last year, and I look
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Speaker 2: at the deterioration of the budget position. I don't reckon
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Speaker 2: they're going to do a lot of it, Dan, let's
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Speaker 2: be honest. I don't think they're going to do a
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Speaker 2: lot of it, Dan. I think these are announcements on
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Speaker 2: the long finger that're eighteen months away, but it'll enable
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Speaker 2: them on budget nine in two weeks time to basically
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Speaker 2: book a thirty billion dollar plus saving and pretend the
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Speaker 2: budget down the tracks in a lot better shape than
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Speaker 2: it really will be.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think that's probably right.
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Speaker 11: We know that this government has been motivated by politics
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Speaker 11: above all, so they're not going to do something unless
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Speaker 11: there's a political angle. Now, anything that can be done
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Speaker 11: to rain the ndis in is a good thing. It
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Speaker 11: is a great, a complete monster, and if the action
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Speaker 11: matches the rectric, then good on the government for doing
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Speaker 11: something genuine. But as you say, the devil is always
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Speaker 11: in the detail. They haven't left themselves with a lot
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Speaker 11: of run up time to actually get this right, and
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Speaker 11: the reality is that they're unlikely to take a political
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Speaker 11: decision that's going to have any short term political implications
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Speaker 11: ahead of an election, which will probably be in about
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Speaker 11: eighteen months.
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Speaker 2: So that's my point, right. So they want to ram
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Speaker 2: it through in budget week. The legislation, they want to
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Speaker 2: ram it through if they are serious that allow good
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Speaker 2: scrutiny of the legislation. And two, none of these comes
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Speaker 2: in until after the next election.
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Speaker 11: And they also want to put the pump on the
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Speaker 11: coalition politically, so that might be why they're not giving
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Speaker 11: them a lot of time. So Melissa Macintosh, the opposition spokesperson,
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Speaker 11: has suggested that they probably wouldn't support these changes, at
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Speaker 11: least based on what I've seen her say. So it's
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Speaker 11: really going to put the coalition under the pump and
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Speaker 11: what are they going to do about it.
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Speaker 2: They don't want pe carolators see that these are smoking
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Speaker 2: mirrors in my view. They also don't want the lobby
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Speaker 2: to get out there and pull these things apart if
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Speaker 2: they were serious. Right now they're saying that they will
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Speaker 2: have another look at the participants. But if they were serious,
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Speaker 2: they would require the registration of every single provider. But
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of them are not registered and that's not
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Speaker 2: planned to change.
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Speaker 12: And that's the problem because it's the dodgy middleman providers
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Speaker 12: and there are loads of examples. We've had lots of
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Speaker 12: people that have given the examples, and you know, you
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Speaker 12: see the things in courts that they're nabbed and they've done,
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Speaker 12: and they've got all this stuff going on. The really
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Speaker 12: sad thing is the one hundred and sixty thousand people
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Speaker 12: that have been kicked off and the amount of parents
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Speaker 12: that have come out to say they feel guilty that
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Speaker 12: taxpayers think that they're ripping off the system for their children.
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Speaker 12: They're the ones that feel guilty. You nailed it as always, Peter.
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Speaker 12: They need to go after the dodgy providers. People should
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Speaker 12: be registered. There've been some outrageous things that people have
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Speaker 12: been able to thank.
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Speaker 2: Like we've all seen the reports. What electorates are they in?
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Speaker 12: Exactly what electrics are they in? And but the thing
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Speaker 12: is go there, the evidence is there. There are numerous
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Speaker 12: cases before the courts of the dodgy providers go after them,
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Speaker 12: these poor people. They have caused more anxiety for parents
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Speaker 12: whose children do need the scheme, do need the ndis.
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Speaker 12: It was a ridiculous scheme in the first place because
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Speaker 12: it was allowed to get out of control. There were
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Speaker 12: warning signs all the way. People kept saying that, and
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Speaker 12: they've just let it get out. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 12: more than fifty billion dollars more than the defense budget.
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Speaker 12: But as you say, they're not actually getting to the
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Speaker 12: nub of it. It's the providers that need to be registered.
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Speaker 12: You know what, if a provider isn't doing anything wrong,
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Speaker 12: they'll be happy to put themselves up to be registered,
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Speaker 12: won't they.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk gas, because if you listen to a lot
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Speaker 2: of the commentariat out there at the moment. Gas companies
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Speaker 2: don't pay tax in Australia. Now, I looked at these
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Speaker 2: protests of activists in Wa protesting against the Brows project
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Speaker 2: over there, and one of the things as they were
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Speaker 2: saying there was you know, let's have them pay more tax.
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Speaker 2: The reporter says to them, well, they might run a
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Speaker 2: project in Australia, it might not be economic, they'll pull out. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's a good thing. The lefty influences. They want the
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Speaker 2: taxes so high. The gas projects in Australia don't go ahead,
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Speaker 2: but they pay a lot of tax. They pay company
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Speaker 2: tax in Australia, don't they Well.
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Speaker 6: They do, and they pay other tax as well.
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Speaker 11: And obviously you're not getting any tax from an industry
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Speaker 11: that doesn't exist anymore. So which one is that? Do
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Speaker 11: you want the tax or do you want to rub
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Speaker 11: out the industry which you can't have both. We all
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Speaker 11: know what this is about, which is continuing to rig
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Speaker 11: the market to give an unfair advantage to wind and solar.
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Speaker 6: That's why they wanted to rub out coal, That's.
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Speaker 2: What I and that's why they hate gas.
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Speaker 6: That's that's why they have because it's a competitor.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 11: For many, many years, elements of the gas industry were
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Speaker 11: happy to throw the coal industry to the dogs.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 11: They will say, well, that's okay, the activists are going
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Speaker 11: after coal. That's fine because that's good for gas, right,
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Speaker 11: because they have a bigger market share that way. It
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Speaker 11: was always going to be the case that first they'd
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Speaker 11: go after coal, then they'd go after gas, and that's
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Speaker 11: exactly what is happening in the show. I think it's
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Speaker 11: a message to industry that you have to be willing
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Speaker 11: to engage in these debates with a long term perspective
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Speaker 11: on what will benefit the nation. This is what business
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Speaker 11: leaders used to do so well in this country, and
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Speaker 11: sometimes they become a bit sectional, a bit sort of
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Speaker 11: occupied with their own turf. So I think it's an
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Speaker 11: example of you've got to stay in the fight if
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Speaker 11: you want your industry to survive.
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Speaker 12: To say though, sorry for the last I was in
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Speaker 12: Western Australia during that time state elections and the last
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Speaker 12: federal election, no business people from the gas industry or
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Speaker 12: fossil fuel came out against labor. They never put their
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Speaker 12: colors to the mars and said stop. They were happy
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Speaker 12: to go on the bandwagon, all right. Captivated by the
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Speaker 12: activists like Stockholm syndrome. It's a message that these fossil
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Speaker 12: fuel things, they're coming after you. It's like feeding the crocodile.
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Speaker 12: Eventually the crocodile is going to eat you. And Wa
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Speaker 12: is a case in point, is very very separate score
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Speaker 12: it's the only state with a separate domestic gas reservation.
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Speaker 12: But you know, come on, wake up industry, because these
20:05
Speaker 12: activists are captivating everyone, dragging us right. As you said,
20:08
Speaker 12: trillion dollars wind Solar. Your interview with Peter Costello this
20:14
Speaker 12: week nailed it. These other countries think we are mad.
20:18
Speaker 12: We have got so many resources in this country. Somebody
20:22
Speaker 12: needs to fly the flag. These CEOs of these companies
20:25
Speaker 12: need to fly the flag and say enough, we're doing this.
20:29
Speaker 12: Where are their backbones as well? Everybody else seems to
20:32
Speaker 12: be fight you know, propping them up, the Liberal Party,
20:35
Speaker 12: the coalition. They need to rise to the occasion because
20:39
Speaker 12: we've got a whole generation of young people that are
20:42
Speaker 12: just carried along by these activists from school to UNI
20:45
Speaker 12: to whatever. Come out and be proactive, have the guts
20:49
Speaker 12: like you do on this program. Like people say, like
20:52
Speaker 12: I do like you do as well, and explain to
20:55
Speaker 12: these children that are coming up to in their teenage
20:58
Speaker 12: years what life was like years ago.
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Speaker 2: Do you think on some of these issues we are cunning
21:03
Speaker 2: through right? Oh?
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Speaker 5: No we are.
21:05
Speaker 12: But you need to keep reinfluencing.
21:08
Speaker 2: Quite about renewals has been a ten year fight. Ye
21:10
Speaker 2: tried taking this on ten years ago. Now people understand.
21:14
Speaker 2: They see the green activists, the true environmentalists, coming out
21:17
Speaker 2: against the desecration of Christine National Parks and coastlines. I
21:22
Speaker 2: think the worm's turning on this, and I must say
21:24
Speaker 2: too with the Liberal Party in Victoria, the worm is
21:27
Speaker 2: turning there. Those comments from Jess Wilson really strong today.
21:30
Speaker 2: Not only would she not back in this gender neutral
21:34
Speaker 2: toilet rubbish in the Construction Code, but if elected and
21:38
Speaker 2: Labor puts it in any way, she's going to repeal
21:40
Speaker 2: it down. Good Ala lujah.
21:42
Speaker 6: You're a dad.
21:43
Speaker 2: Would you happy with one of your children in a
21:46
Speaker 2: toilet down a corridor at ten o'clock at night with
21:49
Speaker 2: blokes in there?
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Speaker 11: No, of course not, and I don't think any parent would.
21:52
Speaker 11: And this is common sense. I mean, it's good from
21:54
Speaker 11: Jess Wilson and Victorian liberals. I think men don't want this,
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Speaker 11: women don't want this. The only people who want on
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Speaker 11: it are the woke activists. And the other problem, and
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Speaker 11: this is a point that was made in the reporting
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Speaker 11: on it, is this is being embedded, the gender neutral
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Speaker 11: toilets into the National Construction Code. The code is there
22:10
Speaker 11: to have things like safety and fire standards. It's not
22:13
Speaker 11: a tool or a mechanism to engage in activism when
22:17
Speaker 11: it comes to the construction of public services, for example, bathroom.
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Speaker 11: So it's just absolutely bonkers of an idea, and it's
22:23
Speaker 11: great to see the VIC drawing liberals have a bit
22:24
Speaker 11: of a backbone on it.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't there either when I went drawling through the
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Speaker 2: website today in twenty twenty four and May twenty four,
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Speaker 2: they were saying more toilets for women, females, they say
22:34
Speaker 2: it in the document, unless toilets for mental You know,
22:37
Speaker 2: they wanted the ratio heavily in the women's favor. That's
22:40
Speaker 2: now changed. So something's happened in and around the last
22:44
Speaker 2: couple of months that they've gone down this path. So
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Speaker 2: we'll watch it closely. And good on Jess, Thank you
22:48
Speaker 2: to you both. Thank you every weekend, all right, last
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Speaker 2: night when I left here, I went home and watched
22:54
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's questions. This is the UK version out of
22:56
Speaker 2: the Commons and while he survived just calls have intensified
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Speaker 2: for Kisstarmer's resignation over the Mendelsohn scandal. The crux of
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Speaker 2: the allegation is that he deliberately misled lawmakers over his
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Speaker 2: appointment of the former labor man, the UK ambassador, a
23:14
Speaker 2: former labor man, to be the UK ambassador to the
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Speaker 2: United States, and he denied that he knew Mendelssohn had
23:21
Speaker 2: failed security vetting. Now, currently the public servants at s
23:25
Speaker 2: DAM has tried to throw under the bus are giving
23:27
Speaker 2: evidence before a Parliamentary committee and that's putting more pressure
23:31
Speaker 2: on the embattled Prime Minister. But he is in trouble.
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Speaker 13: I'm completely fed up about it and I think it's
23:39
Speaker 13: he's got to the point now where I genuinely think that,
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Speaker 13: you know, as far as the Prime Minister's concerned, it's
23:44
Speaker 13: not a case of if it's when.
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Speaker 14: You're saying it's if not when the Prime Minister should resign.
23:49
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, ultimately we're in a situation nowhere. I
23:52
Speaker 13: don't think anyone reasonably expects the Prime Minister to lead
23:56
Speaker 13: the party into the next election.
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Speaker 2: Join mean now to discuss this and more foreign ed
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Speaker 2: at The Australian, Greg Shird and Greg welcome. That's a
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Speaker 2: backbench MP, a labor back bench MP this morning, and
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Speaker 2: that is the first one that's come out there publicly.
24:12
Speaker 2: He says, it's not a case of when and not
24:15
Speaker 2: a case sorry of if, but when Starma leaves office,
24:19
Speaker 2: give me your assessment on things.
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Speaker 10: Well, Peter, great to be with you. I think that's right.
24:25
Speaker 10: Starmer is now more unpopular than any of the Conservative
24:29
Speaker 10: prime ministers when they were going through their sort of
24:32
Speaker 10: you know, rollodex of leaders. He's more unpopular than Johnson
24:36
Speaker 10: at his worst, more unpopular than Rishi Sunac or Liz
24:42
Speaker 10: Traus or any of them. He became unpopular incredibly quickly,
24:47
Speaker 10: as no hear for politics. The stuff about Mandelssohn is
24:50
Speaker 10: completely unbelievable. The foreign officers saying the Prime Minister's office
24:54
Speaker 10: was telling them just to prove it, just approve it,
24:56
Speaker 10: just to prove it. They are under constant pressure. So
25:00
Speaker 10: if they didn't tell the Prime Minister that he didn't
25:03
Speaker 10: properly pass his security bedding, it's because they'd got the
25:06
Speaker 10: message that the Prime Minister didn't want to know. And
25:10
Speaker 10: the initial crime of appointing the guy was bad enough,
25:13
Speaker 10: but the kind of dismal and pathetic cover up is worse.
25:16
Speaker 10: But Labor is in a lot of trouble in Britain.
25:18
Speaker 10: It has a big parliamentary majority, but it's absolutely tanking
25:22
Speaker 10: in the polls and it would lose decisively an election
25:26
Speaker 10: today to Reform or maybe even to the Conservatives. So
25:30
Speaker 10: I think Starma will go. Their big problem, of course,
25:33
Speaker 10: is that they have no obvious successor. He is a
25:36
Speaker 10: very small prime minister in a party of pygmies.
25:41
Speaker 9: Yeah.
25:41
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you who'd be their first
25:43
Speaker 2: cab off the rank because prior to entering politics he
25:47
Speaker 2: was a very senior prosecutor ran the DPP and lawyers
25:52
Speaker 2: like boxes ticked. They like to know that the financial
25:55
Speaker 2: disclosures are made, that the Americans, conversations have been had,
26:00
Speaker 2: that the White House was happy with this sort of appointment.
26:03
Speaker 2: I mean, deliberately incurious was one of the phrases that
26:08
Speaker 2: were straightened around in the Commons last night. I don't
26:11
Speaker 2: believe for a moment, I think I don't want to
26:16
Speaker 2: say he was corrupt. I'm not saying that, but I
26:19
Speaker 2: do think the fact that he deliberately did not ask
26:23
Speaker 2: if everything was in order, that he didn't look for
26:27
Speaker 2: the paperwork to be properly provided, says to me he
26:31
Speaker 2: did not want to know. Greg.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. It's said really the
26:39
Speaker 10: collapse of this Labor government so quickly. It came in
26:42
Speaker 10: with a massive majority, with a lot of problems similar
26:45
Speaker 10: to the ones we face here. Ballooning budget deficit, welfare
26:50
Speaker 10: spending out of control, a need to spend more on
26:54
Speaker 10: defense but no capacity to do so, and a party
26:58
Speaker 10: which had kind of sold its soul to sort of
27:00
Speaker 10: woke social attitudes and identity politics, and that amalgam of
27:06
Speaker 10: political impulses has proven completely inadequate to the task of government.
27:12
Speaker 10: But they replaced the Tories after a long period in
27:15
Speaker 10: government when they had become dysfunctional, and British politics now
27:20
Speaker 10: looks a bit like Australian politics that just can't deliver
27:23
Speaker 10: a government that can govern the place properly. It's not
27:26
Speaker 10: whether you really agree with Labour's program or not. It's
27:29
Speaker 10: just a government which is incoherent and incompetent, and Starma
27:34
Speaker 10: is the sort of background that you expected a successful
27:37
Speaker 10: British political leader to come from, a lawyer, senior figure
27:42
Speaker 10: in a field other than politics. Now you know, I've
27:47
Speaker 10: got a lot of time for Nigel Faraj, but Reform
27:50
Speaker 10: and the Greens who have no experience in government, and
27:54
Speaker 10: the Greens are wildly extreme in Britain. They make hour
27:57
Speaker 10: Greens look like statesmen. They are the leading parties in
28:01
Speaker 10: the polls and across Western societies. I think politics is
28:06
Speaker 10: going a bit nuts, and nowhere more so than Britain.
28:12
Speaker 2: I think that's a lot about the two major parties
28:14
Speaker 2: there and here that's a reflection on them. I hate
28:16
Speaker 2: to say Greg, just John Iran, given they're attacking tankers, now,
28:21
Speaker 2: what's the latest.
28:23
Speaker 10: Well, Iran is tremendously evil, and I hope none of
28:26
Speaker 10: my own recent commentary in the papers has been misconstrued.
28:30
Speaker 10: I want the United States and Israel to win this
28:32
Speaker 10: and the theocratic government of the Mullers consists of one
28:36
Speaker 10: of the most evil governments in the world. But it
28:39
Speaker 10: does seem to me now that we've got a standoff
28:41
Speaker 10: of blockades. The Americans are blockading the Iranian ships, the
28:45
Speaker 10: Iranians are blockading everyone else. I don't know that military
28:49
Speaker 10: action from the Americans now can either open the strait
28:54
Speaker 10: or force the Iranians to hand over their nuclear enriched
28:59
Speaker 10: they're highly enriched uranium. The blockade may put them under
29:03
Speaker 10: a lot more pressure because they're losing something like five
29:07
Speaker 10: hundred million Australian dollars a day through the American blockade.
29:11
Speaker 10: It's unclear to me how long Trump can sustain this
29:14
Speaker 10: for politically, it's very unpopular in America, and he didn't
29:17
Speaker 10: really prepare his people for the length or depth of sacrifice.
29:22
Speaker 10: And I don't think we're going to get back to
29:24
Speaker 10: energy normality for a long time. And no country is
29:27
Speaker 10: more exposed than Australia.
29:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, highest per capita users of diesel in the world.
29:35
Speaker 2: I'll leave it there, Thank you, Greg. After the break,
29:37
Speaker 2: how ISIS has now capitalized on the Bondai terror attack
29:42
Speaker 2: in its latest propaganda messaging, plus more in the legal
29:46
Speaker 2: immunity and granted to some of the witnesses in the
29:49
Speaker 2: Ben Robert Smith case. Welcome back. Before I go to
29:56
Speaker 2: other things, I don't want to miss the announcement yesterday
29:58
Speaker 2: buried in it amongst all all the stuff in relation
30:01
Speaker 2: to the NDIS from the Health Minister Mark Butler. In
30:04
Speaker 2: relation to the rebate, the old Howard government rebate for
30:08
Speaker 2: private health insurance, They've made substantial changes to it. Cut
30:12
Speaker 2: the money for those aged sixty five and older. Now
30:15
Speaker 2: for some people this could be two three thousand dollars
30:18
Speaker 2: per annum that they will be out of pocket. Now,
30:22
Speaker 2: I see this very much as the first attacks on
30:26
Speaker 2: that rebate. Labor wants that rebate scrapped. They voted against
30:29
Speaker 2: it when John how I brought it in. It's about
30:31
Speaker 2: getting more people on private health insurance to relieve the
30:34
Speaker 2: pressure on the public health system. But I think it's
30:37
Speaker 2: in Labour's gun. Coming up soon too, We're going to
30:40
Speaker 2: speak to a soldier, former SAS soldier about a very
30:44
Speaker 2: special documentary that you'll be able to see on Sunday
30:48
Speaker 2: night on television. But the Islamic State terror group has
30:51
Speaker 2: left on the Bondai attack, urging Muslims to follow the
30:55
Speaker 2: leader of the alleged terrorists, describing the massacre as an
30:58
Speaker 2: instruction manual for how to liberate Jerusalem. Their latest English
31:03
Speaker 2: language newsletter carries the headline the Sydney Attack Revenge of
31:07
Speaker 2: the Oppressed Umar, which, of course New South Wales's police
31:10
Speaker 2: will claim in court was inspired by Islamic State joining
31:15
Speaker 2: me out to discuss this and more. Former AFP Detective
31:18
Speaker 2: Superintendent David Craig, Well, you know they don't put this
31:22
Speaker 2: stuff in English, David, if they don't want English speakers
31:25
Speaker 2: around the world to read it and act on it.
31:29
Speaker 2: So how concerned should we be that they're trying to
31:32
Speaker 2: now use Bondi to inspire copycat attacks.
31:38
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly what they're doing, Peter. This isn't just
31:41
Speaker 3: some harmless propaganda. This is actually a template for future attacks.
31:45
Speaker 3: They're weaponizing the atrocity that was Bondai and promoting decentralized
31:50
Speaker 3: model of terrorism. So this lowers the barrier to violence.
31:54
Speaker 3: It delivers this hateful ideology as a service by individuals,
31:59
Speaker 3: not by allizations, because they've learned that organizations actually do
32:04
Speaker 3: try to have some religious restraint, if you can call
32:08
Speaker 3: it that, but some legitimacy needs to be given usually
32:11
Speaker 3: before attacks are given within an organization. However, these lone
32:15
Speaker 3: wolf attacks, they're just a free for all. It's very
32:19
Speaker 3: concerning their reference to non combatants, that there are no
32:25
Speaker 3: non combatants, that everyone that is not Islamic is a
32:29
Speaker 3: legitimate target. Now, that's simply a distortion of Islamic jurisprudence,
32:33
Speaker 3: and it delegitimizes peaceful Muslims, and the Muslims that have
32:38
Speaker 3: stood up and opposed this type of violence before, it
32:41
Speaker 3: delegitimizes them. And that's where I see the real battle
32:44
Speaker 3: now is that it's a battle for legitimacy, so and credibility.
32:50
Speaker 3: If this group is given credibility and the Muslim leaders
32:55
Speaker 3: don't stand up and differentiate themselves from these people, that's
32:59
Speaker 3: when legitimacy will be added to what these people are
33:02
Speaker 3: saying now, and that's very dangerous. Frustrator, we need the
33:05
Speaker 3: Islamic leaders, Illustrator, Muslim leaders to stand up and lead
33:08
Speaker 3: their community and differentiate themselves from these violent extremists.
33:16
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I want to pick up on
33:19
Speaker 2: something people at home will be saying. You know, one newsletter,
33:23
Speaker 2: Peter David, you know that's hardly going to turn someone
33:26
Speaker 2: into a killer. I want you to explain how quickly
33:31
Speaker 2: rapidly someone can be radicalized.
33:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think for a second that someone would
33:38
Speaker 3: just suddenly read this letter and go out and commit
33:41
Speaker 3: such a violent act. I do think it will assist
33:44
Speaker 3: someone that's already on that trajectory, that that will give
33:47
Speaker 3: them the legitimacy that they are part of a greater good,
33:52
Speaker 3: you know, through their twisted thinking. So it can it
33:55
Speaker 3: can tip over. And the dangerous thing is here that
33:58
Speaker 3: it's basically an idealogy by service. So we're not fighting
34:02
Speaker 3: organizations here, we're fighting individuals and their own ideology.
34:08
Speaker 2: All right. It used to be called the Nuremberg defense.
34:11
Speaker 2: You know, I only did it because I was following orders.
34:14
Speaker 2: It didn't stack up after the Second World War. But
34:18
Speaker 2: ostensibly that's what prosecutors are sort of allowing in the
34:24
Speaker 2: sense that there are now four Australian soldiers who have
34:27
Speaker 2: admitted complicity in executing detainees, and they've been granted immunity
34:32
Speaker 2: from prosecution in return for their evidence in the Ben
34:37
Speaker 2: Roberts Smith trial. We'll call it a trial. It's likely
34:39
Speaker 2: to go to trial obviously. Now, how does anyone these
34:42
Speaker 2: days get immunity for murder by saying that they were
34:45
Speaker 2: forced to do it? They are following orders. You and
34:47
Speaker 2: I both know before deployment, all soldiers, all servicemen and women,
34:53
Speaker 2: they have really serious legal training about international law and
34:58
Speaker 2: rules of engagement. So talk me through what the prosecutors
35:02
Speaker 2: have done here.
35:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Peter, I actually went through the defense training
35:07
Speaker 3: before my deployment to Afghanistan with the AFP, and the
35:10
Speaker 3: rules of engagement are well and truly talk to people.
35:13
Speaker 3: They know what is legal and what is not in
35:15
Speaker 3: the field. So look, I probably shouldn't talk too specifically
35:19
Speaker 3: about the Ben Robert Smith case, but you know, from
35:22
Speaker 3: a justice perspective, you can't have prosecutors in Australia having
35:27
Speaker 3: a free form power to just let self confessed offenders
35:30
Speaker 3: off just because the evidence is useful. You know, these
35:33
Speaker 3: decisions usually require three serious areas that need to be considered. First,
35:38
Speaker 3: and one is that the accomplice's evidence must be necessary
35:41
Speaker 3: to show the full scope of culpability or to secure
35:45
Speaker 3: a conviction against the main offender the evidence is not
35:49
Speaker 3: available from any other source. And this third one is
35:52
Speaker 3: the one where I think there may be a problem.
35:54
Speaker 3: The accomplice must be significant less significantly less culpable than
35:59
Speaker 3: the effect. That's going to be very difficult to prove
36:05
Speaker 3: in this murky case.
36:06
Speaker 2: I think we'll leave it there, thank you very much.
36:11
Speaker 2: David Craig. After the break, a former sas soldier on
36:14
Speaker 2: what Anzac Day means for him and many of his
36:17
Speaker 2: mates this year, given the events of recent weeks, and
36:20
Speaker 2: that documentary that I urge you wall to watch on Sunday.
36:30
Speaker 2: Welcome about coming out the latest and peace negotiations in
36:32
Speaker 2: Iran and in between Iran and the United States. But
36:36
Speaker 2: first leading into Anaak Day, I want to draw your
36:38
Speaker 2: attention to a magnificent documentary which highlights the challenges that
36:43
Speaker 2: our ses troops faced in Afghanistan. I brought you a
36:47
Speaker 2: special preview of it at the time last year. It's
36:49
Speaker 2: called Bravery and Betrayal. It's absolutely worth a watch, and
36:54
Speaker 2: it'll be around the country on Sunday night across a
36:57
Speaker 2: range of platforms. I'll show you in a moment. Here's
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Speaker 2: a section though, discussing the Battle of Tizak. Now, when
37:03
Speaker 2: I read you Ben Robert Smith's VC citation at the
37:07
Speaker 2: top of the show, this is the battle it was about.
37:12
Speaker 2: Have a listen.
37:13
Speaker 9: But the guys were taking such intense fire because they'd
37:17
Speaker 9: landed down in the valley. The helicopters were coming in
37:20
Speaker 9: with the operators hanging out the side of the aircraft, sliding.
37:23
Speaker 5: In on gun positions.
37:24
Speaker 9: Trying to suppress them, and then flipping around when they
37:28
Speaker 9: ran out of ammunition, and then sliding back in to
37:30
Speaker 9: suppress them. We had a patchy aircraft wind up coming in.
37:41
Speaker 2: Everybody got out of there alive.
37:43
Speaker 9: That's pretty amazing for a fight like that.
37:47
Speaker 2: You can't do that without being good at what you do, jentlemen. Now,
37:52
Speaker 2: someone who features in the documentary format Special Air Service
37:55
Speaker 2: Regiment Soldier Horse Hudson, Well, welcome to the program. I've
38:00
Speaker 2: got to ask you. You know, given the events of
38:02
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, this documentary now seems more
38:07
Speaker 2: important than ever. Why was it so important to you
38:10
Speaker 2: that what happened in Afghanistan was documented like this?
38:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, So there was this ongoing negative narrative about what
38:22
Speaker 5: we did in Afghanistan, and it wasn't being corrected by
38:26
Speaker 5: Defense Force, which I believe they should have a duty
38:30
Speaker 5: of care to step in and tell correct the inconsistencies
38:35
Speaker 5: in certain parts of the media reporting. And so I
38:40
Speaker 5: had people coming up to me saying, we're on your side,
38:42
Speaker 5: We're on your side, but we weren't hearing outside of
38:45
Speaker 5: the story. And so we felt that it was important
38:49
Speaker 5: to make a movie so that the Australian public could
38:52
Speaker 5: own the truth of what occurred in Afghanistan.
38:57
Speaker 2: And what's been the reaction to that? Doc Coumentary. And
39:00
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you in relation to Saturday, it
39:04
Speaker 2: is a very very special day, not just to all Australians,
39:07
Speaker 2: but particularly to men and your mates like you horse,
39:12
Speaker 2: how do you look at that day given the arrest
39:16
Speaker 2: of Ben Robert Smith. Because people are saying to me
39:18
Speaker 2: soldiers that I know, they say, it'll feel very different
39:23
Speaker 2: this year.
39:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does feel different. It feels a lot more
39:28
Speaker 5: personal this year. And so I'm actually going to march
39:32
Speaker 5: at the antac Dape that I'm attending up in to
39:37
Speaker 5: want user. I feel that it's important for us all
39:41
Speaker 5: to step up and represent this year. It just becomes
39:45
Speaker 5: much more personal and so that's what I'm encouraging people
39:48
Speaker 5: who do it. Got a little green ribbon on as well.
39:53
Speaker 2: I think we're going to see crowds like never before.
39:55
Speaker 2: I think a lot of Australians who might go every
39:58
Speaker 2: couple of years or whatever are going to be out
39:59
Speaker 2: there in force, and I think they'll be speaking their mind.
40:04
Speaker 2: I do often ask soldiers, you know, when you are
40:06
Speaker 2: on deployment how is Anzac Day different in your case
40:10
Speaker 2: when you're in Afghanistan, then perhaps it will be for
40:13
Speaker 2: you on Saturday.
40:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess you get down range and actually operating
40:23
Speaker 5: as the ANZACs would to this day, so we're representing
40:27
Speaker 5: them at the time. So it is a much deeper
40:30
Speaker 5: and much more solemn occasion. I felt much more personal
40:33
Speaker 5: because there's less crowds and there's just you and the
40:36
Speaker 5: teams there.
40:40
Speaker 2: Do you feel that that, you know the emotional camaraderie
40:44
Speaker 2: because you are you know, you are literally in the
40:47
Speaker 2: position where with a call up or being sent out
40:51
Speaker 2: on patrol that night, you could you could be paying
40:54
Speaker 2: the ultimate sacrifice of the men that you are honoring
40:58
Speaker 2: in the in the services on Antic Day.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, it's you know, you think that you're all
41:05
Speaker 5: going to come home, but you know there's a possibility
41:07
Speaker 5: that you're not so commemorating the sacrifices the veterans past,
41:12
Speaker 5: we are currently the veterans that are potentially sacrificing him currently.
41:17
Speaker 5: And so that that reality was there made the day
41:20
Speaker 5: so much more significant.
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Speaker 2: I've got to ask you, because I know you're close
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Speaker 2: to Ben's family, have you been in touches is there
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Speaker 2: anything you can tell us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have spoken to both him and his mother.
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Speaker 5: He he's pretty been pretty good shape. Actually, in fact,
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Speaker 5: he's resolved to take this all away, to fight the charges.
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Speaker 5: And he's said everybody has their across the bed, their
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Speaker 5: burden to bear in life, and it seems like this
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Speaker 5: is going to be his. And that's how he's looking
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Speaker 5: at it.
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Speaker 2: And what about his mom? How's his family?
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Speaker 5: She's holding up, she's there with him at the moment
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Speaker 5: and just enjoying being there for her boy. Obviously there's
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Speaker 5: a lot of pain, as any mother would feel when
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Speaker 5: there the sun is attacked in such a manner.
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Speaker 2: Right, I'll leave it there. I won't say enjoy Anne
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Speaker 2: zag Daye always feel that it's a solemnity on that moment,
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Speaker 2: particularly for those who warn the uniform. But I thank
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Speaker 2: you for your service, and I thank you for joining
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Speaker 2: us tonight horse.
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Speaker 15: All right.
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Speaker 2: The documentary, please don't miss it, Bravery and Betrayal. It's online,
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Speaker 2: it's also by a DVD. But she can also see
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Speaker 2: it anywhere. Look around on Sunday, lots of places are
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Speaker 2: running it. Also tomorrow here on sky we've got the annual.
42:58
Speaker 2: Lest we forget sunset tribute on Sky from four point
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Speaker 2: fifty five PM. I think that one comes from the
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Speaker 2: steps of the opera house. Someone will correct me if
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Speaker 2: I'm wrong in my ear. All right, quick break after
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Speaker 2: the break, A lot of international stuff to get across
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Speaker 2: the Clinton Foundation and others in the spotlight tonight. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna laugh. Quite a few people are saying to me,
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Speaker 2: why is it called horse, Peter, you won't catch me
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Speaker 2: out on that one. I've got a brother who was
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Speaker 2: a soldier and a brother who played AFL. I am
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Speaker 2: not going to ask you why it was good Horse.
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Speaker 2: We leave that there. Let's bring in my panel now.
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Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff to discuss. Thank you, Michael, Thank you,
43:41
Speaker 2: Kosher Gada.
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Speaker 5: Hey.
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Speaker 2: The latest out of Iran, Michael.
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Speaker 14: Ah, The Iranians are fighting themselves. The ceasefire has been
43:58
Speaker 14: extended so that they can work out a position. That's central.
44:02
Speaker 14: It seems that the head of the Iranian equivalent of
44:06
Speaker 14: the SS, their parallel army, the IGC, has taken control
44:12
Speaker 14: of the regime. And that's a good and a bad thing.
44:16
Speaker 14: At least you've got someone to deal with. And I
44:19
Speaker 14: think it's less palatable for the American and international public
44:23
Speaker 14: that such an obvious hardliner is there. So the money
44:32
Speaker 14: that they get from their foundations, crooked money, is making
44:40
Speaker 14: them very vulnerable too. And as Greg Sheridan said on
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Speaker 14: your previous segment, five hundred million dollars a day are
44:46
Speaker 14: being lost. The main thing though is this is the
44:49
Speaker 14: seasire may not end, but this has got a two
44:52
Speaker 14: week limit because that's when the oil worlds get capped.
44:56
Speaker 14: They can't export after that.
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Speaker 2: Of course, you know Greg just said before, this could
45:02
Speaker 2: drag on now for a long time. That's not good
45:05
Speaker 2: in itself. It puts pressure around the president given everything
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Speaker 2: he's got home domestically, midterms and all the stuff we've
45:12
Speaker 2: talked about.
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Speaker 15: It does, and there's more and a reporting coming from
45:14
Speaker 15: all sorts of factions in the media. You have to
45:16
Speaker 15: put the obvious grain of salt and anything the media
45:19
Speaker 15: reports on Trump, but there is more and more saying
45:21
Speaker 15: he is reaching the end of his tether.
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Speaker 2: He is fine, he looks and sounds frustrated by the process.
45:26
Speaker 15: He does a better radic, he knows the midterms are
45:28
Speaker 15: around the corner. There was some report in axiosay he's bored.
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Speaker 2: With it now.
45:32
Speaker 15: I would hope that if we wrap it up. It's
45:33
Speaker 15: for a reason better than boredom. But all of that
45:36
Speaker 15: to say that he does seem to really want this
45:38
Speaker 15: to end. And so that comes back to what are
45:40
Speaker 15: the objectives and how much concessions are both sides of
45:44
Speaker 15: the negotiating table going to make If we are going
45:46
Speaker 15: to get some sort of deal, what does that look like?
45:48
Speaker 2: Talk to me about this huge story in relation to
45:51
Speaker 2: the Southern Poverty Law Center and allegations of financial irregularity
46:01
Speaker 2: aging towards corruption, and they've been dotted by the Trump administration.
46:04
Speaker 2: Why is this such a big deal in the United States.
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Speaker 15: It's a big deal because s POC was founded in
46:09
Speaker 15: the seventies to combat remnants of the Jim Crow era
46:13
Speaker 15: and civil rights issues, So that was sort of the
46:15
Speaker 15: cover story. But then over the years their scope expanded
46:17
Speaker 15: into things like hate monitoring, and they have a hate map,
46:20
Speaker 15: which is basically putting a bunch of right wing people politicians, leaders,
46:24
Speaker 15: commentators on watch and doing all sorts of nefarious things
46:27
Speaker 15: to ensnare them. So it's been sort of a scourge
46:30
Speaker 15: in certainly the right side of politics, and people have
46:34
Speaker 15: always wanted the right to fight back and find ways
46:36
Speaker 15: to look into these entities, and now some evidence has
46:39
Speaker 15: been found, a grand jury actually has indicted them and
46:42
Speaker 15: found there's enough evidence there to move forward. Of them
46:46
Speaker 15: planting informants they say in the KKK and all sorts
46:50
Speaker 15: of groups like that just makes it head scratch, but
46:53
Speaker 15: basically just shows the underbelly of these institutes, and there's
46:57
Speaker 15: a veneer on the top good origins, and then when
46:59
Speaker 15: you look under the belly, they're not what they'se in.
47:02
Speaker 2: We've got the Sunrise Project, We've got the Clinton Foundation,
47:05
Speaker 2: We've got all of those close to billions that would
47:08
Speaker 2: have been for Black Lives Matter that was all raised Michael.
47:11
Speaker 2: You know there's plenty that operate in the pro Palestinian
47:14
Speaker 2: space as well. There's not enough sunlight on these entities.
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Speaker 14: No, and some of the foundations that give to them.
47:21
Speaker 2: Too, some of the Katari money.
47:24
Speaker 14: But some people think that organizations like the Rockefeller Foundation
47:30
Speaker 14: a right wing or that George Soros, because he's a billionaire,
47:33
Speaker 14: is right have senter. It's not true at all. Some
47:36
Speaker 14: of these people, for instance, the Fellows Singham that's based
47:41
Speaker 14: in Beijing, is the person funding a lot of these
47:46
Speaker 14: demonstrations in all over the country for Antifa, so you know,
47:50
Speaker 14: it really needs to be mapped and understood. I think
47:53
Speaker 14: the horseshoe theory of politics is true, but we need
47:56
Speaker 14: to map all of this so ordinary people who are
47:58
Speaker 14: in the middle of the row you can understand what
48:01
Speaker 14: all these outfits are up to a Clinton Foundation.
48:04
Speaker 2: You know, all these allegations that the homes have been bought.
48:07
Speaker 2: I think that the doors Is wedding was paid for
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Speaker 2: by the foundation. I remember well, Jillie Bishop was a
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Speaker 2: foreign minister of the time banging on Tony Abbots Store
48:16
Speaker 2: to put money into the Clinton Foundation because she said
48:18
Speaker 2: it would give a better access to you know, the
48:20
Speaker 2: movies and shakers of New York. I mean they were
48:23
Speaker 2: just basically shaking down people for money. The taxpayers sorry, yes,
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Speaker 2: tax pays.
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Speaker 15: Yes. The Australia is actually in the top ten of donors,
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Speaker 15: which is kind of funny if you think about it,
48:32
Speaker 15: a terrific the Gates Foundation that it's Saudi Arabia, all
48:36
Speaker 15: the golf states, nor Away and Australia is the list
48:39
Speaker 15: of donors. The Clinton Foundation is interesting because they're very clever.
48:42
Speaker 15: They set it up in the late nineties and they've
48:44
Speaker 15: set it up in a way.
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Speaker 2: And it operates in a way where nothing is.
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Speaker 15: Overtly illegally so far, and they have been probed many
48:51
Speaker 15: times by the FBI by this.
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Speaker 2: They've had a plody of practice of trying to elude yes,
48:56
Speaker 2: because what they do is they operate all these pauses internally.
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Speaker 15: Don't just give them money to other charities that operate that,
49:03
Speaker 15: whether it's HAITI or AIDS or public health. And nothing
49:05
Speaker 15: has really been solved. I don't think anything. Anybody thinks
49:07
Speaker 15: that the two and.
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Speaker 2: That means they can wash their accommodation and proact lights
49:10
Speaker 2: and everything.
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Speaker 15: And personally enrich themselves. But it's all set up in
49:13
Speaker 15: a way that they don't draw salaries overtly. They're not
49:15
Speaker 15: paying vendors for the wedding, so you can never quite
49:17
Speaker 15: catch them in criminal liability. But everybody can look at
49:21
Speaker 15: the timeline. Whenever Hillary has been in power, the donation's peak.
49:25
Speaker 15: When she's out of power, they don't, and we'll see
49:27
Speaker 15: what that.
49:27
Speaker 14: A don't they basically in it though now it's.
49:30
Speaker 2: Because she's like for access. Leave it there, thank you both,
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Speaker 2: see you next week. Have a lovely weekend. Please observe
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Speaker 2: and honor our soldiers on Saturday, and I'll see you
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Speaker 2: on Monday. Here's Andrew