Latest / The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane / 10-12-26 - Broncos win again, I guess/Offense STILL isn't pulling their weight/ONE part of offense you like
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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Cain on demand.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Check out Brett weekday mornings at 6 on Altitude Sports
- 0:10Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Well, one, I thought Davis handled it really well. It
- 0:22Speaker 2: wasn't easy, especially in today's day and age with social
- 0:26Speaker 2: media and everything. Everybody hears about it and knows about it,
- 0:29Speaker 2: but I thought he did a really good job. Just
- 0:32Speaker 2: continue to put his head down, put the plan together,
- 0:35Speaker 2: help coach. He has a really important job being the
- 0:39Speaker 2: OC still for coach. I think people sometimes often forget
- 0:43Speaker 2: that just because you're not the play caller, he's got
- 0:46Speaker 2: a lot of things to do on a weekly basis.
- 0:48Speaker 2: I think Sean has always relied heavily on whoever his
- 0:51Speaker 2: OC is to help him put the plan together. I
- 0:55Speaker 2: think he did a really good job of building it,
- 0:58Speaker 2: piecing together the things of You know, there's always scenarios. There's,
- 1:02Speaker 2: you know, regular downs, third downs in red zone. And,
- 1:05Speaker 2: you know, Sean obviously relies heavily on his staff and
- 1:11Speaker 2: they help him put it together.
- 1:12Speaker 3: They do a great job game planning.
- 1:13Speaker 2: And so I think he responded really well, even though
- 1:17Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily easy. But I don't expect anything different
- 1:21Speaker 2: out of him because, you know, this is serious to
- 1:23Speaker 2: him and he knows he's got a big future.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's Rally House Football Monday. It's a victory Monday.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Do I have the approval of the people to do
- 1:42Speaker 3: the thing that I have done before and been yelled
- 1:45Speaker 3: at for, which is the Broncos won a football game,
- 1:48Speaker 3: and that needs to be acknowledged. They did win. But
- 1:53Speaker 3: can we talk about the way that they won?
- 1:55Speaker 4: No!
- 1:55Speaker 5: God, please, no!
- 1:57Speaker 3: Is that okay? Is that okay to do here? Because
- 2:02Speaker 3: I don't want this to be another situation where I
- 2:03Speaker 3: try and do this and people yell at me and
- 2:05Speaker 3: it becomes a battle all day. Like, I will do it.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I will. I don't want to.
- 2:11Speaker 3: I want us all to be in this place where
- 2:15Speaker 3: we sort of sit around, we kumbaya on the idea that, yes,
- 2:19Speaker 3: the Broncos won, but there is a gigantic problem here.
- 2:24Speaker 3: A huge problem. The LA Chargers, the team that you
- 2:30Speaker 3: faced yesterday, is... Forget a preseason version of their team.
- 2:38Speaker 3: You were playing with, or you were playing against, a
- 2:43Speaker 3: team that was a practice squad. Like, non-active roster guys.
- 2:50Speaker 3: They're out, I think, four of their top five receivers.
- 2:55Speaker 3: They're out four of their top five offensive linemen and
- 2:58Speaker 3: then some. And you stay in that game because the
- 3:02Speaker 3: defense kept you in it. We've made this big decision.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Let's go from Davis Webb to Sean Payton. Let's switch
- 3:10Speaker 3: up play callers because the offense through four weeks wasn't
- 3:13Speaker 3: good enough, even though the first four weeks kind of
- 3:14Speaker 3: looked like the last two years. It doesn't matter. We're
- 3:17Speaker 3: going to switch up play callers because that's what matters.
- 3:21Speaker 3: And You get that result. I mean, you finish four quarters,
- 3:26Speaker 3: and it's incredible, guys. You had 224 yards of offense.
- 3:32Speaker 3: You were one of 12 on third down. Time of
- 3:39Speaker 3: possession in favor of the opposing team. You turned the
- 3:42Speaker 3: ball over. You had seven penalties. You were two of
- 3:46Speaker 3: five in the red zone.
- 3:50Speaker 5: And you won.
- 3:53Speaker 3: It really feels like if you played anybody else yesterday,
- 3:59Speaker 3: that would have been a loss. Like, I just... I
- 4:04Speaker 3: don't know how to deal with something that I can't
- 4:06Speaker 3: trust despite the results. I don't know how to do it.
- 4:12Speaker 3: And I think, shout out to your defense that was
- 4:14Speaker 3: beat up. You didn't have... Pat Sertan and Riley Moss,
- 4:18Speaker 3: and then you ended up losing Hufanga and all these
- 4:21Speaker 3: different things, and you still figured out a way to
- 4:23Speaker 3: get after people. And you know what? Your defensive line
- 4:27Speaker 3: showed up like they should have against a team that
- 4:29Speaker 3: has no offensive linemen. But Nick Benito gets a big day.
- 4:32Speaker 3: He has a couple of sacks. DJ Jones, I feel like,
- 4:36Speaker 3: had a big day. Zach Allen obviously has a big day.
- 4:39Speaker 3: You get a pick. You turn the ball over multiple times.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Your defense did what they were supposed to do against
- 4:45Speaker 3: a bad opponent. That's what they did. But this is.
- 4:53Speaker 3: This is just straight-up bad football. Like, it's bad. And look,
- 4:58Speaker 3: you gotta... For the first time in a long time,
- 5:06Speaker 3: I'm looking at Bo Nix and just being like, what
- 5:08Speaker 3: is this? Bo Nix is capable of playing good football
- 5:13Speaker 3: at that position. He is not anywhere close to it
- 5:15Speaker 3: right now.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Nelly played that clip to open things up. He's talking
- 5:19Speaker 3: about Davis, and he goes, he's doing a great job,
- 5:21Speaker 3: you know, with the things that people say on social media.
- 5:25Speaker 3: He is way too concerned with labels. He said it
- 5:29Speaker 3: last week. He said, yeah, well, if I turn the
- 5:31Speaker 3: ball over, then you get labeled as this. It's like,
- 5:34Speaker 3: who cares what the label is? Just go out and play.
- 5:40Speaker 3: But there is nothing that you do well offensively. Nothing.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Win more games, Cub Scout.
- 5:45Speaker 3: There's the thing he does. That's what is so infuriating
- 5:50Speaker 3: about this. Not that you're winning games, but it's like, how?
- 5:53Speaker 3: It's pretty simple.
- 5:55Speaker 5: I win.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Google me. And what do you trust? But it's the
- 6:00Speaker 3: first time, I think, in Bo's tenure, where I got
- 6:05Speaker 3: the feeling watching the game yesterday, I'm like, this kid
- 6:08Speaker 3: just doesn't have it. Like, he just doesn't have the goods.
- 6:12Speaker 3: It's the first time. And I'm trying to figure out
- 6:16Speaker 3: what is happening. I think, and I don't want to
- 6:20Speaker 3: make this an excuse, but I truly think that there
- 6:26Speaker 3: is a big concern that he has about his own ankle.
- 6:31Speaker 3: I mean, on the play that he fumbled, but you
- 6:34Speaker 3: got the ball back, Bo's getting hit, or he takes
- 6:38Speaker 3: off and runs, and somebody from L.A. wraps up around
- 6:42Speaker 3: his ankles, and you can tell he is very, very aware.
- 6:45Speaker 3: that somebody's going in that area. Like, it is clear
- 6:52Speaker 3: and obvious. And so maybe that leads to him not
- 6:55Speaker 3: wanting to take a sack because he'll scramble out of
- 6:58Speaker 3: a clean pocket and throw the ball away. As a quarterback,
- 7:02Speaker 3: you have a job. Your job is every once in
- 7:05Speaker 3: a while, I'm going to take a shot to the
- 7:06Speaker 3: chin to make a throw downfield. And he just looks
- 7:08Speaker 3: scared to take a hit. And if that's because of
- 7:12Speaker 3: his ankle, okay, that's one thing. But guys, he had
- 7:16Speaker 3: 27 passing attempts, and it was 4.6 yards per attempt.
- 7:21Speaker 3: Justin Herbert was flat-out awful yesterday. He had 121 passing yards.
- 7:28Speaker 3: It was 5 yards per attempt. With how bad Herbert was,
- 7:32Speaker 3: it was more than what Bo Nix did yesterday. With
- 7:39Speaker 3: how bad the Chargers were running the football... They had
- 7:44Speaker 3: about 50 more rushing yards than you did. Like, all
- 7:47Speaker 3: of these things don't make sense. You won that game
- 7:49Speaker 3: because you turned the ball over. I'm sorry, because you
- 7:52Speaker 3: got takeaways. It's another game you won because of your defense. But, guys,
- 7:58Speaker 3: we're sitting here. We're five weeks into the season. Okay,
- 8:00Speaker 3: we're over a third of the way in. Or about
- 8:02Speaker 3: a third of the way in, I should say. Cortland
- 8:05Speaker 3: Sutton through five weeks has 11 catches. Jalen Waddle has 18.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Your running game is non-existent. J.K. Dobbins looked better yesterday,
- 8:17Speaker 3: I suppose, but still not anything great. I mean, 18
- 8:20Speaker 3: carries for 68 yards. There is nothing that you do
- 8:24Speaker 3: well on offense right now. And, like, you got a
- 8:27Speaker 3: short week and you're playing against the Seattle Seahawks. Can
- 8:31Speaker 3: you win that game? Like, you can. I've seen you
- 8:34Speaker 3: do it.
- 8:38Speaker 4: But.
- 8:40Speaker 3: I just... I don't know how to even evaluate this
- 8:46Speaker 3: stuff moving forward when we're talking about, did you win?
- 8:49Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Are they going to get to a minimum of the
- 8:51Speaker 3: number that we said they had to get to through
- 8:53Speaker 3: six weeks? Yes. They hit that three-win threshold. They're going
- 8:56Speaker 3: to be three and three through the first six. All
- 9:01Speaker 3: of that's great. Like, again, preseason Brett would have said, hey,
- 9:05Speaker 3: they're three and two through five games. That's a great
- 9:08Speaker 3: start to the season. But I just can't take the
- 9:12Speaker 3: weight that we've gotten here. Because I don't know who
- 9:15Speaker 3: it's on. The easiest thing now, look, I know we
- 9:20Speaker 3: can point to the quarterback and say Bo Nix just
- 9:22Speaker 3: needs to play better. I don't want to let the
- 9:24Speaker 3: other people off the hook though either. I don't want
- 9:26Speaker 3: to let Sean Payton or Davis Webb or whoever is
- 9:30Speaker 3: in charge of this offense off the hook. Like we're
- 9:35Speaker 3: setting up screen after screen after screen. Going nowhere. Running game.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Can't get anything going. Why? Are the running backs seriously
- 9:45Speaker 3: not good enough? Like, I've been on that train for
- 9:49Speaker 3: a couple years. Like, maybe the backs just aren't good enough.
- 9:51Speaker 3: And at the same time, it's like come on, even
- 9:53Speaker 3: doll runs for seven yards per carry yesterday. I don't know.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Like I am just wholly confused and it does feel like,
- 10:06Speaker 3: you know, Jesse Pinkman from breaking bad, like can't keep
- 10:10Speaker 3: getting away with it. It does feel that way. You
- 10:15Speaker 3: guys feel it during the game. Like, that game, by
- 10:18Speaker 3: the way, a road game, was 90% Broncos fans in
- 10:21Speaker 3: that building. I'm almost surprised, like, it felt like, were
- 10:28Speaker 3: the Broncos kind of booed a couple of times on
- 10:31Speaker 3: the road? It was so weird. But this is, it's
- 10:40Speaker 3: the first time that I'm watching the Broncos and I
- 10:43Speaker 3: just had I don't want to say it's an epiphany.
- 10:46Speaker 3: It's a fear. It was like a nightmare that creeped
- 10:49Speaker 3: in my head that's like, oh boy, for the first time,
- 10:52Speaker 3: I just don't think Bo Nix has it. Like, he
- 10:57Speaker 3: was able to get away with some things the last
- 11:00Speaker 3: couple of years, evade these types of conversations because he
- 11:05Speaker 3: would make a couple of plays in a game. He
- 11:07Speaker 3: would make a couple of throws. He'd be like, okay,
- 11:09Speaker 3: there it is. That's it. There's not even like an effort.
- 11:16Speaker 3: There's not even a try. Did you guys see the
- 11:18Speaker 3: graphic that was thrown up before half? They're going into halftime.
- 11:27Speaker 3: CBS puts up the graphic that says, Broncos average 3.3
- 11:33Speaker 3: points per game in the first half. And they have
- 11:40Speaker 3: a winning record. How is that possible? You're averaging a
- 11:49Speaker 3: field goal through the first two quarters of a game? So, obviously,
- 11:58Speaker 3: there's a lot to discuss with this. And again, I
- 12:01Speaker 3: apologize for my tone after a win. I can't help it.
- 12:04Speaker 3: And I think a lot of you guys are finally
- 12:06Speaker 3: there with me.
- 12:07Speaker 5: Like....
- 12:10Speaker 3: You can't continue to roll that out there. But at
- 12:13Speaker 3: the same time, it's what are you going to do?
- 12:14Speaker 3: You're talking to my guy all wrong. It's wrong tone.
- 12:17Speaker 3: This is Bo Nix's team for the rest of the year.
- 12:20Speaker 3: That I know is a minimum. He will be the
- 12:23Speaker 3: quarterback for the rest of the season. And my guess
- 12:25Speaker 3: is the Broncos are going to win enough games where
- 12:26Speaker 3: they're going to be in the playoffs again. And you're
- 12:29Speaker 3: going to get hit with this. I can see it already.
- 12:36Speaker 3: The Broncos are going to win enough games to get
- 12:38Speaker 3: to the playoffs. They might win a playoff game or two.
- 12:41Speaker 3: You might be in the same situation you were last year.
- 12:43Speaker 3: And you're going to face an off-season discussion of, well,
- 12:46Speaker 3: what the hell do we do now? Like, you're going
- 12:52Speaker 3: to have to make the decision of, remember what Minnesota
- 12:55Speaker 3: did a couple years back. They had a 14-win season,
- 12:59Speaker 3: made the playoffs, lost in the playoffs, and they said,
- 13:01Speaker 3: thank you, Sam Donald, for your time. We'll see you later.
- 13:05Speaker 3: And then he goes to Seattle and he wins, and
- 13:06Speaker 3: Minnesota just implodes. Funny thing is the texture says Bo
- 13:13Speaker 3: Nix is Tebow 2.0. But it's not that. It's not.
- 13:21Speaker 3: I don't know how to describe it. It's somewhere above
- 13:26Speaker 3: Tim Tebow. But I just, I'm so wholly confused at
- 13:35Speaker 3: the end of games. I've said this before. People get frustrated.
- 13:38Speaker 3: I certainly do. I get frustrated by things I can't understand.
- 13:42Speaker 3: It's like, why can't I connect the dots in my
- 13:45Speaker 3: brain to know exactly what's going on? It's, it's, if
- 13:49Speaker 3: you've ever gotten something like from Ikea or something that
- 13:53Speaker 3: was ordered from Amazon and you're trying to put it
- 13:55Speaker 3: together and they don't have actual instructions, it's just pictures.
- 13:59Speaker 3: And it says, snap, click, snap, click, or something like that.
- 14:02Speaker 3: I don't, I don't get what the snap click is.
- 14:07Speaker 3: You want to throw everything in the box. But I
- 14:12Speaker 3: seriously don't understand it. The texture says new offensive coordinator. Why?
- 14:17Speaker 3: We can't keep doing that. And this is something I
- 14:22Speaker 3: mentioned through the first four weeks and we'll get to
- 14:23Speaker 3: it in a couple of minutes. The first four weeks
- 14:27Speaker 3: didn't look all that much different than the last two years.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Sean Payton takes play calling duties over. I asked the
- 14:33Speaker 3: question going into the weekend. Do you expect it to
- 14:35Speaker 3: look any different? And the answer is no. And maybe
- 14:43Speaker 3: this was all intentional, and we'll get there in just
- 14:45Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. 303-504-0925. We have Ryan Harris joining
- 14:50Speaker 3: us at 8 o'clock as we broadcast from the back
- 14:52Speaker 3: of some Shanker Studios. Serious lawyers for the seriously injured,
- 14:55Speaker 3: back after this.
- 14:56Speaker 2: When you're 0-5, what is the message that works, you know,
- 15:01Speaker 2: that kind of gets through, or is there one?
- 15:06Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what that message is. It's just
- 15:12Speaker 6: in the you know, the players that just fight their
- 15:19Speaker 6: hearts out, you know, play, give it everything they have. That's,
- 15:23Speaker 6: that's the only way. That's the, that's the best way.
- 15:26Speaker 6: But yeah, that's, yeah.
- 15:35Speaker 5: Yikes.
- 15:36Speaker 3: It's a rally house football Monday. You know, Sanford, I
- 15:41Speaker 3: was doing the post game show with him and Sanford
- 15:43Speaker 3: did talk about this, the idea that, And this is true.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is a very, very good coach. Jim Harbaugh
- 15:50Speaker 3: has a personality that will wear on you in a hurry, though.
- 15:52Speaker 3: It's happened everywhere. It's happened at Stanford and the 49ers
- 15:56Speaker 3: in Michigan, and now I think in L.A. It just
- 16:01Speaker 3: wears on you over time. Like, the Chargers are a mess.
- 16:05Speaker 3: That's a terrible football team, guys. That's an awful football team.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Think about this. You might have questions as to how
- 16:13Speaker 3: good Justin Herbert is, but Justin Herbert's a good quarterback
- 16:17Speaker 3: that looks miserably awful. And that's an indictment of coaching.
- 16:23Speaker 3: Bo Nix, we're trying to figure things out of like,
- 16:25Speaker 3: is he starting caliber in this league right now? And
- 16:30Speaker 3: I've tried to give this grace. A texture has mentioned
- 16:33Speaker 3: this and, and on this rally house football Monday. And
- 16:39Speaker 3: it's true that, But he says, bottom line is Bo
- 16:43Speaker 3: Nix is not that good. Seems like everybody so desperately
- 16:46Speaker 3: wants him to be a franchise quarterback. Well, of course.
- 16:50Speaker 3: You don't want to wade back into the waters of
- 16:52Speaker 3: Case Keenum's and Joe Flacco's and Trevor Simeon's and Teddy
- 16:56Speaker 3: Bridgewater's and Drew Locke's. Like, you don't want to be
- 16:59Speaker 3: there again. You want to hope that the guy who
- 17:03Speaker 3: is under center for you that is somehow winning a
- 17:06Speaker 3: ton of football games is the guy that you can
- 17:08Speaker 3: trust moving forward. I don't blame anybody for having hopes
- 17:16Speaker 3: of that. But something's wrong here. And what's funny is,
- 17:25Speaker 3: Bo Nix in these games, like, this is the worst
- 17:31Speaker 3: version of him. Because I've said this before, Bo Nix
- 17:34Speaker 3: has had bad games. We've discussed them at length. Bo
- 17:39Speaker 3: Nix also has moments in games that makes you want
- 17:43Speaker 3: to believe. I don't know any moments he's had through
- 17:47Speaker 3: five games this year. You go back and you watch
- 17:51Speaker 3: the Buffalo game in the playoffs from last year. He
- 17:53Speaker 3: had plenty of moments that you looked at. That was
- 17:56Speaker 3: just a great game. It's like, yep, that guy is
- 17:59Speaker 3: a good player. Moments throughout the course of last year,
- 18:03Speaker 3: the Green Bay game last year, like that's a good quarterback.
- 18:06Speaker 3: That's something I can trust. Even in games in which
- 18:08Speaker 3: he was awful, there'd be a couple of plays in
- 18:11Speaker 3: which you believe it. I haven't seen that this year
- 18:13Speaker 3: from him. And it's really freaking me out. Because what
- 18:18Speaker 3: is going on? You brought back everybody on offense and
- 18:22Speaker 3: added Jalen Waddell. It shouldn't look worse. You don't have
- 18:26Speaker 3: injuries on your offense. You have injuries to your defense.
- 18:33Speaker 3: So it is wholly confusing. And I'm doing the postgame
- 18:37Speaker 3: show last night and DMACC jumps on. And DMACC always
- 18:40Speaker 3: does this. I know this sentiment out there exists. He
- 18:45Speaker 3: basically gave us the, what are you guys complaining about?
- 18:49Speaker 3: They won. And to me. I'm like, look, if they
- 18:54Speaker 3: want to go into that locker room after the game
- 18:56Speaker 3: and Sean Payton wants to stand up in front of
- 18:58Speaker 3: everybody and say, hey, it's tough to win in the NFL.
- 19:00Speaker 3: I know it wasn't great, guys, but you guys won.
- 19:02Speaker 3: As a team, they can do that. As a fan, no.
- 19:07Speaker 3: I don't play that game. The Broncos have graduated to
- 19:12Speaker 3: this point, guys. They're in the same territory as the
- 19:16Speaker 3: Avs and Nuggets. Anything outside of a championship appearance isn't
- 19:21Speaker 3: good enough. It's just a reality of where they are
- 19:24Speaker 3: as a team. You've made the growth. You did that
- 19:27Speaker 3: two years ago when you made the postseason. You did
- 19:29Speaker 3: it last year when you made the AFC championship game.
- 19:32Speaker 3: Anything short of the big game isn't good enough. And
- 19:42Speaker 3: how can anybody trust what you saw offensively, not just yesterday,
- 19:45Speaker 3: but throughout the entire year? And I get I'm frustrated
- 19:54Speaker 3: with Sean Payton and Davis Webb doing this merry-go-round of
- 19:59Speaker 3: play calling duties and then Sean Payton takes over and
- 20:02Speaker 3: it looks like worse than it did beforehand truly Hey,
- 20:06Speaker 3: they scored a first-half touchdown, a first-quarter touchdown, Brett. How
- 20:10Speaker 3: do you like them apples? Can you believe that number, though,
- 20:13Speaker 3: that they averaged 3.3 points per game in the first half? 3.3.
- 20:20Speaker 3: But I think this tells you what you need to know.
- 20:22Speaker 3: So listen to this. When it comes to Bo Nix,
- 20:29Speaker 3: and I think a lot of this has to do with,
- 20:31Speaker 3: you can glean a lot of information about how much
- 20:34Speaker 3: your quarterback is trusted by what decisions your head coach
- 20:37Speaker 3: slash offensive coordinator makes. The Broncos won that game.
- 20:41Speaker 5: Why?
- 20:42Speaker 3: Because the Chargers puked all over themselves late in that
- 20:45Speaker 3: game and gave you field position at the 25-yard line
- 20:48Speaker 3: multiple times. But think about this. Chargers come out, first
- 20:55Speaker 3: drive of the second half, they score. They tie at 10-10.
- 20:59Speaker 3: You follow that up with a three and out. Then
- 21:01Speaker 3: you force a punt. And the punt that you forced
- 21:08Speaker 3: results in you fumbling on the first play of the
- 21:12Speaker 3: next drive. The very next play, because your defense... The
- 21:20Speaker 3: Chargers' opening drive was a nine-and-a-half-minute touchdown drive. You have
- 21:26Speaker 3: to find a way to keep them off the field.
- 21:29Speaker 3: You need to give your defense a breather. And you
- 21:32Speaker 3: go three and out. You put your defense right back
- 21:34Speaker 3: out there. In their defense, they get a stop. Almost
- 21:40Speaker 3: get a pick. Chris Abrams-Drain picks a pass off, but
- 21:43Speaker 3: it turns out it was pass interference. And it was
- 21:45Speaker 3: pass interference. So they get a first down, but then
- 21:47Speaker 3: three plays later, the Chargers punt again. And you're like,
- 21:51Speaker 3: all right, you need to give your defense a break.
- 21:54Speaker 3: You know what kind of break they got? Was one play,
- 21:57Speaker 3: eight seconds fumble at the 42-yard line. Chargers pick it up.
- 22:01Speaker 3: And the very first play from scrimmage after that was
- 22:04Speaker 3: a 42-yard touchdown run from Kamani Vidal. And they're up
- 22:08Speaker 3: by seven. And you think to yourself, okay, you have
- 22:13Speaker 3: to give your defense a break now. That play, that
- 22:17Speaker 3: 42-yard touchdown run was a direct result of you not
- 22:21Speaker 3: giving your defense a breather. And then your next drive,
- 22:24Speaker 3: you go three and out. And then as a miracle,
- 22:29Speaker 3: your defense goes out and forces another three and out.
- 22:33Speaker 3: And then they get a 26-yard return from Marvin Mims
- 22:36Speaker 3: to boot that starts your drive at the 27-yard line.
- 22:42Speaker 3: And you go three and out again and then miss
- 22:44Speaker 3: the field goal. You're still down seven after all of that.
- 22:50Speaker 3: And then what does your defense do? They get you
- 22:52Speaker 3: a turnover on downs by stuffing a sneak on fourth down,
- 22:56Speaker 3: which results in a touchdown drive. They get you another fumble.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Another drive starts at the 23-yard line, and this becomes
- 23:04Speaker 3: the kicker. You want to know confidence in your quarterback
- 23:08Speaker 3: or not? Here it is. It's a 17-17 ball game.
- 23:13Speaker 3: That drive started at the 23-yard line. You're 23 yards
- 23:16Speaker 3: away from going up a touchdown. It's fourth and goal
- 23:20Speaker 3: at the one. And you kick. And I'm going to
- 23:26Speaker 3: say this right now. I totally agree with the decision.
- 23:31Speaker 3: But think about how fragile your confidence in the offense
- 23:34Speaker 3: is when you're a yard away from the end zone.
- 23:36Speaker 3: You go, I can't risk it. You've just admitted you
- 23:42Speaker 3: don't think you can get in there. Instead of going
- 23:46Speaker 3: up a touchdown, you go up a field goal. And
- 23:48Speaker 3: because your defense is awesome, they come out the next drive.
- 23:53Speaker 3: sack Herbert, put them in third and 18, and they
- 23:57Speaker 3: get an interception. Like, it's remarkable that this team is
- 24:09Speaker 3: still capable of doing that without Pat Sertan and without
- 24:12Speaker 3: Raleigh Moss and later in the game without Talanoa Hufanga.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Texture says, Brett, are you never happy as it seems
- 24:20Speaker 3: that you believe in the theory that the Broncos should
- 24:22Speaker 3: crush everyone? Last I checked, both teams are paid professionals.
- 24:26Speaker 3: I'm never happy because this offense is atrocious. And I
- 24:34Speaker 3: feel sympathetic towards the defense for forcing them to make
- 24:40Speaker 3: play after play after play to win. Like they aren't
- 24:43Speaker 3: getting help. It's one thing if you play complimentary football
- 24:46Speaker 3: in your offense. Yeah, maybe you don't score, but you
- 24:48Speaker 3: have like a nine-play drive that burns like four or
- 24:50Speaker 3: five minutes off the clock. And then you kick a
- 24:53Speaker 3: field goal or you punt and you put them in
- 24:55Speaker 3: deep field position. But they don't even do that. And
- 24:58Speaker 3: I'm tired of the merry-go-round of blame of, you know,
- 25:02Speaker 3: Sean Payton takes the play calling away from Davis Webb
- 25:04Speaker 3: and the offense looks worse. Like, I feel bad for
- 25:09Speaker 3: the defense. And you want to know the dirty little
- 25:14Speaker 3: secret to this? Everything, I don't know what the locker
- 25:17Speaker 3: room's like. I'm sure everything is fine within that locker room, though,
- 25:19Speaker 3: because they're winning. They've been winning football games. The second
- 25:23Speaker 3: that starts to shift, you have a real problem on
- 25:25Speaker 3: your hands because they're going to eat each other. If
- 25:29Speaker 3: that game looks like that and the Broncos lose and
- 25:31Speaker 3: you have a couple of those in a row, that
- 25:33Speaker 3: can turn into a powder keg in a hurry. I
- 25:42Speaker 3: just look. I could spend time talking about the offense,
- 25:45Speaker 3: but it's been the story of the season. It's been
- 25:47Speaker 3: who's calling plays. That was the story the entire week
- 25:53Speaker 3: last week. Oh, I remember what it was. Nelly, Sean Payton,
- 26:01Speaker 3: can you go to cut four, please? From Sean Payton
- 26:04Speaker 3: yesterday talking about how things went with Davis Webb in
- 26:06Speaker 3: taking play calling duties back because there was something, I
- 26:09Speaker 3: believe in this clip, that Sean Payton said where I
- 26:13Speaker 3: think there's been just a blame shifting game and I
- 26:23Speaker 3: don't like it it just feels like a lot of
- 26:25Speaker 3: people don't take responsibility here but I want you to
- 26:27Speaker 3: listen to this.
- 26:27Speaker 7: Yeah work fairly smooth substitutions all of that yeah Davis
- 26:31Speaker 7: is you know when you're on there you're wanting conviction
- 26:35Speaker 7: he's got conviction on certain plays and There's a handful
- 26:38Speaker 7: of guys between series, but then during the series, you
- 26:41Speaker 7: kind of got what your third down thoughts are going
- 26:44Speaker 7: to be.
- 26:45Speaker 5: We got to work.
- 26:45Speaker 7: We got to obviously clean that up. I think we
- 26:48Speaker 7: converted one third down, so that's not good enough.
- 26:52Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't really the question I was looking for.
- 26:55Speaker 3: We'll find it in a little bit, Nellie. Don't worry
- 26:59Speaker 3: about it. But it just felt like there were answers
- 27:03Speaker 3: from both Bo and Sean Payton yesterday that Just some
- 27:09Speaker 3: of their responses didn't sit right with me. And so
- 27:12Speaker 3: we'll get to that in just a little bit. To
- 27:16Speaker 3: talk about the positives, your defense was awesome, as they
- 27:19Speaker 3: always are. They made one mistake. They gave up a
- 27:21Speaker 3: big run to Vidal because your offense gave, like they
- 27:24Speaker 3: were on the field for 13 of 15 minutes in
- 27:27Speaker 3: the third quarter. That happens. But let's listen again. This
- 27:31Speaker 3: is about the play calling change.
- 27:33Speaker 4: There was a lot going on this week with Vidal.
- 27:35Speaker 4: you know, play calling change and everything. Did you feel
- 27:38Speaker 4: or were you worried coming in that, you know, how
- 27:40Speaker 4: the team would handle it emotionally if they'd be distracted
- 27:43Speaker 4: or anything like that?
- 27:44Speaker 7: I don't think those guys compartmentalize things pretty well. I
- 27:48Speaker 7: met with the offense, but I didn't have a big
- 27:50Speaker 7: kumbaya team meeting.
- 27:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 27:52Speaker 7: And I'll say this. I gave Patrick a real hard time.
- 27:56Speaker 7: You know, I felt like Davis answered 28 questions the
- 27:59Speaker 7: other day. All right.
- 28:00Speaker 3: 15 too many.
- 28:01Speaker 7: But he had a good week. And it's difficult. It's
- 28:04Speaker 7: really difficult. And I appreciate him. He'll look back at
- 28:08Speaker 7: some point. I've said this, you get so, we're all
- 28:11Speaker 7: a little bit out of whack relative to our profession.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Okay, that answer bothered me. So here's what he's telling me.
- 28:19Speaker 3: He said Patrick, that is Patrick Smythe. He is the
- 28:22Speaker 3: media liaison of the Broncos, we'll call it. So he's
- 28:25Speaker 3: in charge of putting people at the podium. And Patrick
- 28:27Speaker 3: is very, very good at what he does. And he
- 28:30Speaker 3: said he had Davis Webb answering way too many questions.
- 28:38Speaker 3: What do you mean? First of all, I thought Davis
- 28:43Speaker 3: Webb was excellent at the podium on Friday. I thought
- 28:47Speaker 3: he was honest. You could see that he was hurt.
- 28:51Speaker 3: But he said, this is my job. I got to
- 28:53Speaker 3: stick to it. I got to do this. And I
- 28:54Speaker 3: thought he was awesome in answering the questions. It's the
- 28:59Speaker 3: story of the season. When you are a football team
- 29:05Speaker 3: that has question marks about their quarterback, that's huge. Because
- 29:09Speaker 3: here's what's funny. There isn't questions about Sean Payton. Sean
- 29:16Speaker 3: Payton is not at risk of losing his job at all.
- 29:20Speaker 3: And he shouldn't be. That guy just, he, your job
- 29:23Speaker 3: as a head coach is to win games. They have
- 29:25Speaker 3: won games. Forget the offense for a second. Look at
- 29:30Speaker 3: the record. The record is what matters as a head coach.
- 29:33Speaker 3: The record is largely what matters as a quarterback. But
- 29:37Speaker 3: you're just trying to evaluate. Is this something that I
- 29:43Speaker 3: can believe in, not only for the rest of this year,
- 29:46Speaker 3: but moving forward? And if the answer is no, then
- 29:49Speaker 3: you have to figure out, well, what is the true problem? Well,
- 29:53Speaker 3: they've made the shift in play calling. I take it
- 29:55Speaker 3: away from Davis Webb. I'm going to be back in charge.
- 29:58Speaker 3: And it was no better. In fact, it was worse.
- 30:00Speaker 3: I mean, one of 12 on third down. You're kicking
- 30:05Speaker 3: field goals on fourth and goal from the one-yard line
- 30:08Speaker 3: in a Thai football game. And again, I don't even
- 30:10Speaker 3: blame them. I think it's the right choice. But just
- 30:12Speaker 3: the fact that you're in that position is crazy. And
- 30:20Speaker 3: the defense, like, you know who deserves a massive shout-out?
- 30:23Speaker 3: Shout-out Vance Joseph. Sertan, Moss out, Hufanga leaves middle of
- 30:29Speaker 3: the game and you still find a way not just
- 30:32Speaker 3: to like keep things in check, to make big time
- 30:36Speaker 3: plays to put a struggling offense in position to score
- 30:40Speaker 3: points relatively easily. In a game in which, you know,
- 30:45Speaker 3: if you get to 20 points, it's over because the
- 30:47Speaker 3: Chargers are terrible. Like that's the other side of that coin.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Think about this for a second. The chargers are so bad. Uh,
- 31:02Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh sounds like I could ask him what's two
- 31:06Speaker 3: plus two. And he'd just be like, uh, yeah.
- 31:09Speaker 5: Uh, I don't know.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Like, I think he's that confused right now with life.
- 31:19Speaker 3: But again, there's a bunch to discuss here. Um, I'll
- 31:25Speaker 3: tell you right now, you play like that against Seattle,
- 31:27Speaker 3: you are going to lose by 20 points, at least.
- 31:30Speaker 3: And I guess that's why I'm just, I'm trying to
- 31:33Speaker 3: look for something more. And I can't grasp it really
- 31:36Speaker 3: anything offensively that I like right now. And if I'm wrong, 303-504-0925,
- 31:43Speaker 3: tell me where I'm wrong. But truly, if you had to,
- 31:48Speaker 3: can you give me one thing on offense? Let's play
- 31:50Speaker 3: that game. Let's try and find it. One thing offensively
- 31:54Speaker 3: that you like right now that you're watching.
- 31:56Speaker 5: 303-504-0925.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Our student of the week is Ralston Valley's Izzy Martin,
- 32:02Speaker 3: a student body president. Izzy leads with kindness, brings classmates together,
- 32:06Speaker 3: and makes sure every student feels like they belong. It's
- 32:09Speaker 3: all presented by Mr. Ruder Plumbing, proudly rooting for Colorado
- 32:12Speaker 3: students and athletes. Give me one thing. you like offensively.
- 32:16Speaker 3: We'll get to it next. I know you got to
- 32:18Speaker 3: watch the film and everything, but initial takeaways, how would you.
- 32:21Speaker 5: Assess your performance?
- 32:23Speaker 2: Uh, I don't think it was, uh, you know, my
- 32:26Speaker 2: best for sure. Um, but like you said, I got
- 32:29Speaker 2: to go watch. I just felt like, um, you know,
- 32:32Speaker 2: we got to third downs quickly again and, um, you know,
- 32:35Speaker 2: definitely things there that we can clean up. Um, but again,
- 32:39Speaker 2: like I said, I got to watch that definitely, um,
- 32:41Speaker 2: the game and the feel and, The results of drives,
- 32:44Speaker 2: you know, told me that it wasn't necessarily pretty, but
- 32:48Speaker 2: we just found a way to win.
- 32:50Speaker 3: VConn me! Always like the... Not quite the high-pitched one,
- 32:58Speaker 3: but look, I asked you guys, give me something that
- 33:02Speaker 3: you like from the offense. Because I need help. I
- 33:05Speaker 3: don't want to be this way. Trust me. I just
- 33:07Speaker 3: told Nelly, I'm like, I hate that I'm in a
- 33:09Speaker 3: bad mood. I hate it. But I.
- 33:14Speaker 3: It's how I feel. I don't know. So I said,
- 33:17Speaker 3: give me something on offense that I like. Like, what
- 33:19Speaker 3: should I be looking at on offense? Here's one text.
- 33:25Speaker 3: I like watching them leave the field because I'd rather
- 33:28Speaker 3: watch our defense. It's like, okay, that didn't really help me.
- 33:33Speaker 3: How about something else? The most positive thing about our
- 33:36Speaker 3: offense is that they're on the same team as our defense.
- 33:38Speaker 3: I'm like, that doesn't help me either. I feel the
- 33:40Speaker 3: same way. It doesn't help me. But I got a
- 33:42Speaker 3: couple of these, if there is one thing. Quinn Miners.
- 33:45Speaker 3: Quinn Miners is an absolute monster. And thank God you
- 33:49Speaker 3: got that guy on your team. Texture says, I think
- 33:51Speaker 3: the offensive line's incredible. I don't know. I think they're good.
- 33:54Speaker 3: They're obviously good. I still have questions of like, even,
- 33:59Speaker 3: we can talk about J.K. Dobbins and R.J. Harvey and
- 34:02Speaker 3: whatever we have in the backfield, Tyler Bidet. There doesn't
- 34:07Speaker 3: seem to be a lot of holes opening up on
- 34:09Speaker 3: the offensive line. And when you have that combined with
- 34:12Speaker 3: guys that might not be that talented, then, you know,
- 34:17Speaker 3: you get sort of the results that you got through
- 34:20Speaker 3: five games, which is not a great running game. Again,
- 34:24Speaker 3: we haven't had a 20-yard run the entire season so far.
- 34:26Speaker 3: You would think that you would have one hole that
- 34:28Speaker 3: opens up big enough where somebody could do it. But
- 34:31Speaker 3: I don't know. Nick said they ran for 100 yards.
- 34:37Speaker 3: It didn't feel like it. Well, yeah, they got to 106.
- 34:42Speaker 3: So they did. But Miners is great. I'll tell you this.
- 34:49Speaker 3: I think that Evan Ingram is actually having like a
- 34:52Speaker 3: quietly decent year. I mean, he's only got 10 catches too.
- 34:57Speaker 3: But I think that he's been impactful at times this season.
- 35:05Speaker 3: I'll give you one positive. Here's a positive from yesterday.
- 35:10Speaker 3: That doesn't have to do with the offense or defense.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Special teams was pretty good too. Um, I and Eagle,
- 35:19Speaker 3: friend of the show, we tasked him with sneaking something
- 35:23Speaker 3: into the broadcast. We wanted him to say he's a
- 35:25Speaker 3: good kid. I don't know how he was going to
- 35:28Speaker 3: do it, but there was a feature yesterday about Talanoa
- 35:31Speaker 3: Hufanga and Tui, I can never say his last name,
- 35:34Speaker 3: Tulo Polo 2 or whatever it is. And so he's
- 35:38Speaker 3: doing the story.
- 35:39Speaker 5: Listen. And it's incomplete.
- 35:43Speaker 8: You had Tui Polotu and Thierry Tartt both in the area.
- 35:51Speaker 8: And it is Tui Polotu, the pro bowler. His cousin's
- 35:55Speaker 8: on the other team, Denver. We had a chance to
- 35:58Speaker 8: talk to both he and Hufanga. They both said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 36:03Speaker 8: my favorite cousin, but I think they were saying it
- 36:05Speaker 8: for effect. Don't tell their other cousin.
- 36:07Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not going to share that.
- 36:11Speaker 8: Hand off to Dobbins. And Dobbins takes it to the
- 36:15Speaker 8: 30-yard line. Yeah, they've got deep connections, USC and even beyond.
- 36:24Speaker 8: And you can just feel the love and respect.
- 36:27Speaker 5: Within that family.
- 36:28Speaker 8: Bufanga is older.
- 36:30Speaker 5: He said that Tooley is a real good kid.
- 36:38Speaker 4: And.
- 36:40Speaker 5: It's quite a celebration for the family. Incredible.
- 36:43Speaker 3: You know what's funny? I was listening to that, and
- 36:45Speaker 3: I could hear him. He's like, am I going to
- 36:47Speaker 3: do the voice? That's what that hesitation was. Go back
- 36:50Speaker 3: to it, Nelly. He has this pause before he says it,
- 36:53Speaker 3: and I think he's wondering to himself, am I going
- 36:55Speaker 3: to try and do the good kid?
- 36:57Speaker 5: Bufanga is older. He said that Tully is a real
- 37:05Speaker 5: good kid.
- 37:07Speaker 3: He's a good kid. Dude, Ian is the best. I'm
- 37:12Speaker 3: so glad that he actually likes coming on our show.
- 37:15Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. It's just so fun. I was talking
- 37:19Speaker 3: to a buddy and watching the game yesterday and he goes,
- 37:21Speaker 3: it's weird because you see these play-by-play guys and you
- 37:23Speaker 3: kind of think of them as squares and stuff like that.
- 37:26Speaker 3: He goes, I listened to him on your show and
- 37:27Speaker 3: he was so cool. I go, I agree. He's the best.
- 37:31Speaker 3: And that was so subtle right there. You may have
- 37:34Speaker 3: even missed it. Dude, I did. I didn't notice it.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I saw when somebody tweeted at me that he said
- 37:41Speaker 3: it with the video. I was like, oh my God,
- 37:42Speaker 3: he did it so smoothly I didn't even notice.
- 37:44Speaker 5: He said that Tully is a real good kid.
- 37:51Speaker 3: God bless him. Iron Eagle's the best. So, again, guys, 303-504-0925.
- 37:58Speaker 3: It's open for you. There's a lot of things that
- 38:01Speaker 3: we can discuss this morning, but I am like, I just,
- 38:06Speaker 3: I don't know. Part of me, after the Broncos win,
- 38:11Speaker 3: they're 3-2, and a texter said this, I entirely disagree with,
- 38:15Speaker 3: by the way. A texter says, we have to remember,
- 38:20Speaker 3: critics never gave the Broncos a chance in the first
- 38:22Speaker 3: six games of the season, whether the Broncos are playing
- 38:24Speaker 3: good on offense or not. We're above 500 after five games.
- 38:27Speaker 3: The critics had us losing all of them. Not true.
- 38:31Speaker 3: I mean, people thought the Broncos would win some football games.
- 38:35Speaker 3: I think we all agreed, as certainly us on the show,
- 38:40Speaker 3: but listeners as well, if the Broncos were 3-3 through
- 38:45Speaker 3: the first six weeks, you'd take it. It's a really,
- 38:49Speaker 3: really difficult start to the season. And they're there. They've
- 38:52Speaker 3: accomplished that. And there is something to be said for that.
- 38:58Speaker 3: But you know what's funny? If they didn't take the
- 39:02Speaker 3: play calling away from Davis Webb, I think it would
- 39:05Speaker 3: feel different. That to me felt like a panic. You
- 39:09Speaker 3: have now shined the spotlight on your offense saying, this
- 39:13Speaker 3: is not up to standard. I'm making a change and
- 39:17Speaker 3: we're doing this right now. And then the offense played
- 39:22Speaker 3: worse against, make no mistake, that's a terrible football team.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Like the Chargers, you look at what they have coming
- 39:35Speaker 3: up here. They're going at Kansas City, at the Rams.
- 39:40Speaker 3: The Texans finally got a big win. Maybe they're back.
- 39:42Speaker 3: They have them at home. Then it's at the Ravens.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Their next month, guys, they might be 0-9 to start
- 39:51Speaker 3: the year.
- 39:51Speaker 5: 0-9.
- 39:54Speaker 3: I don't even think there's a might be. They're going
- 40:00Speaker 3: to be.
- 40:01Speaker 7: Look, if I'm not worth a hoot, Because how.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Is that team going to beat anyone? I mean, that
- 40:08Speaker 3: last pick of the game, it was Justin Herbert threw
- 40:11Speaker 3: it directly. I mean, he's done this now two weeks
- 40:17Speaker 3: in a row. He drops back in a critical situation
- 40:22Speaker 3: and throws it directly into the stomach of a defensive player.
- 40:25Speaker 3: That being Brandon.
- 40:26Speaker 5: Jones last week.
- 40:30Speaker 3: It's bizarre, man. Texture says, how do you get Sutton
- 40:35Speaker 3: more involved? Scheme problem or bow problem? Bro, nobody's involved.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Like we were talking about, hey, how do you not
- 40:43Speaker 3: get Colton Sutton the football? They aren't getting Jalen Waddle
- 40:46Speaker 3: the football. Did you see Jalen Waddle? It was third
- 40:49Speaker 3: and nine deep in your own territory. They ran a draw,
- 40:51Speaker 3: basically giving up saying we're going to punt. Jalen Waddle
- 40:55Speaker 3: snapped his chin strap off. Like, what are we doing
- 40:58Speaker 3: on offense? And I wanted to put on a helmet
- 41:02Speaker 3: so I could snap my chin strap with the same
- 41:04Speaker 3: vigor that he did. That's what I wanted. But it
- 41:10Speaker 3: speaks to a total lack of confidence in your quarterback.
- 41:16Speaker 3: When you're kicking the ball on fourth and one from
- 41:18Speaker 3: the goal line, name another team in the NFL that'll
- 41:20Speaker 3: do that. And I get it, points are a premium,
- 41:22Speaker 3: all that different stuff, understood. But you're kicking it on
- 41:26Speaker 3: fourth and one from the goal line, you're running a
- 41:28Speaker 3: draw on third and nine just because you're in your own,
- 41:31Speaker 3: You're inside your own 20. It speaks to where the
- 41:36Speaker 3: Broncos are at as a team. The weekend isn't over
- 41:41Speaker 3: until Monday Night Football wraps up. It's Josh Allen and
- 41:43Speaker 3: the Bills as they battle Matthew Stafford in the Rams tonight.
- 41:46Speaker 3: Coverage at 6 on Altitude Sports Radio 92.5. Your home
- 41:49Speaker 3: for the NFL on Westwood 1. Powered by Twin Peaks. Eats, drinks,
- 41:54Speaker 3: scenic views. Tonight. Look, man, a lot to discuss this morning.
- 41:59Speaker 3: A lot of it going to be about the offense.
- 42:01Speaker 5: A lot.
- 42:02Speaker 3: Mosher, are you in a bad mood about the Broncos? Okay,
- 42:05Speaker 3: he said they suck. All right. I guess we'll take
- 42:08Speaker 3: that as a yes. You can watch the show live
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- 42:23Speaker 3: So through five games this season, the Broncos are 3-2,
- 42:27Speaker 3: but they've changed coordinators. They had just this last week
- 42:30Speaker 3: a game in which the offense was 1 of 12
- 42:33Speaker 3: on third down with 224 yards of offense. It is 3.9
- 42:39Speaker 3: yards per play. It's a win. But I have no
- 42:48Speaker 3: idea how they can continue to do this. You're now
- 42:52Speaker 3: in a short week against the defending Super Bowl champs.
- 42:55Speaker 3: You don't have Moss. You don't have Sertan. and who
- 42:59Speaker 3: fungus status is now up in the air. Your secondary
- 43:01Speaker 3: is dropping. Can the offense keep pace, and how did
- 43:04Speaker 3: they get there? We'll discuss all that with Moshe Lombardi
- 43:07Speaker 3: and Kane next.