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Time To FIGHT Against A Digital Dystopian Future | John Deaton · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, friends.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Chris Thrull. I'm a former Royal Marines commando.
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  Speaker 2: I've adventured for better and sometimes worse across 80 countries
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  Speaker 2: on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port Latisha podcast.
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  Speaker 3: John, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Chris. How are you, my friend?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm wonderful, wishing there was more time in a day.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where it goes. Do you think as
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  Speaker 3: you get older, time just flies even faster?
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  Speaker 1: No, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 4: I was talking yesterday, how cliche it is of our
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  Speaker 4: short term time on this planet. And it just goes
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  Speaker 4: by so fast. My daughter's already seven. And I can't
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  Speaker 4: believe I have a 26 year old and a 24
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  Speaker 4: year old and you really do blink your eyes and
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  Speaker 4: a decade has went by, you know, when you're young,
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  Speaker 4: it seems like it's forever, you know, when you're 12
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  Speaker 4: and 14 and you're looking forward to be 16 or 18.
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  Speaker 4: But my God, once you, once you, once you pass
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  Speaker 4: that threshold of 40, it just seems to magnify how
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  Speaker 4: quickly time goes by for us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. Are your parents still alive, John?
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  Speaker 4: No, my mother died in March of 2000. My father
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  Speaker 4: had died before then. My stepfather before that. And that's
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  Speaker 4: the other thing, Chris. I'm at that age now. I'm
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  Speaker 4: 59 years old. I'm at that age where people are dying.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't just mean parents, but someone that went
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  Speaker 4: to high school with or elementary school.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, wow, what do you mean she passed away? Because...
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're my age.
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  Speaker 4: And that's, uh, another kind of reality check that this,
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  Speaker 4: this time that we have on this planet, uh, man,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta make the best use of it that you can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My dad's getting old now. He's kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: struggling quite a bit in it, in it. When you're
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  Speaker 3: a father, it brings your own mortality to you. Not
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  Speaker 3: that I'd ever lose sleep over it, but it does
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  Speaker 3: make you, uh, question your sort of life decisions and
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  Speaker 3: looking after your health and this kind of stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was asked a question, you know,
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  Speaker 4: my political opponent, he's 80, but he doesn't have children
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  Speaker 4: or grandchildren.
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  Speaker 1: And someone said, well, how is that relevant?
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  Speaker 4: And I said, you know, I'm not being mean or anything,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm 59 years old, I'm getting older. And if
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  Speaker 4: there is a bill that I'm going to vote on, Chris,
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  Speaker 4: The first thing I'm going to think of is like,
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  Speaker 4: how does this impact my seven-year-old? And how does it
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  Speaker 4: impact my girls in their mid-20s? When I'm gone, how
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  Speaker 4: is this really going to impact people that I care about?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it just gives you a sense, I think,
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  Speaker 4: of accountability or responsibility. I don't know what the right
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  Speaker 4: word is, but it weighs on you because that's the
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  Speaker 4: thing that terrifies me. You know, as a parent, you
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  Speaker 4: always want to be here to protect your children and
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  Speaker 4: And as you get older and you, that mortality kicks
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  Speaker 4: in even more, um, and, and the world we're living
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  Speaker 4: in seems to.
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  Speaker 1: Get scarier and scarier in so many ways.
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  Speaker 4: It's, it's kind of fearful to think about leaving my
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  Speaker 4: children behind and what's the world going to look like
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  Speaker 4: for them.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Especially as my, my lad's still very young, you know, and, um,
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  Speaker 3: So we both served in the Marines. You served as
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  Speaker 3: an officer on the legal side of things, and I
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  Speaker 3: was what I guess you call a grunt.
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  Speaker 1: Or a real Marine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there you go, you know. Nice flag, by
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  Speaker 3: the way. Do you call it a flag or do
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  Speaker 3: you call it a different name if it's a military flag?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's flag, Marine Corps flag.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I met wonderful U.S. Marines back when I served,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely wonderful. Great, great lads. But on that subject, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what's your position on the old medical procedure, if I
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  Speaker 3: can call it that? Because we're getting Marines now, fit,
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  Speaker 3: healthy guys. And yeah, they're sort of in there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they've had long careers. Then they're suddenly dropping dead with,
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  Speaker 3: you know, three heart attacks in a row. And no
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  Speaker 3: one wants to sort of, you know, I know you're
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  Speaker 3: never going to know what causes someone's heart attack unless
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  Speaker 3: you're some kind of medical genius but it was mandatory
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  Speaker 3: in this country that they all had to basically had
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  Speaker 3: to have it forced on them a lot of them
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  Speaker 3: didn't want it some of them went underground and they
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  Speaker 3: managed to get the certificate on the black market and
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  Speaker 3: take it into the barracks and say hey look doc
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  Speaker 3: i got it done while i was on leave and
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  Speaker 3: the doc was you know i don't know if they
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  Speaker 3: were more than happy to or whether they were just
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  Speaker 3: naive and sort of signed them off but do you
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  Speaker 3: do you have a Do you have a take on that, John?
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  Speaker 3: Because we talk about a frightening future. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: an elephant in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I became fascinated in high school with George Orwell's 1984,
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  Speaker 4: and I fought government overreach when I can, when I
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  Speaker 4: sued the SEC on behalf of token holders because of
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  Speaker 4: the government's overreach.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm always going.
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  Speaker 4: To be, you know, sort of have a libertarian streak
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  Speaker 4: in me that the government can't tell.
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  Speaker 1: Me what to do, right? I have to pay taxes.
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  Speaker 4: I get it. I, you know, and I have to
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  Speaker 4: follow certain basic laws. But other than that, I want
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  Speaker 4: you out of my life as much as possible. And
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  Speaker 4: so when the government mandates that you take something you
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  Speaker 4: inject something into your body, I'm going to have a
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  Speaker 4: problem with it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, you know, freedom is very, very delicate.
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  Speaker 4: And when the government says, no, if you don't take this,
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  Speaker 4: you'll get court-martialed. Or if you don't take this, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, obviously when you go in the military, you
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  Speaker 4: obviously give up certain freedoms. And, you know, obviously you
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  Speaker 4: get vaccinated for certain types of, of diseases, polio or
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  Speaker 4: measles or what have you. But every time I hear
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  Speaker 4: anything like federal ban, a federal ban of this or
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  Speaker 4: a federal ban of that, it's going to be a
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  Speaker 4: red flag for me. And when you also give immunity
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  Speaker 4: to the big corporations like big pharma and you say,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to rush this and you're going to be
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  Speaker 4: forever protected. So in case it does kill people, you're
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  Speaker 4: not going to be able to be sued civilly. I'm
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  Speaker 4: really going to have a hesitation and pause in that
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  Speaker 4: because it seems like you're basically giving a license to
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  Speaker 4: a company to rush to the market something that they
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  Speaker 4: really haven't taken the proper measures and control measures.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 4: I think we haven't seen the end of the fallout.
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  Speaker 4: personally uh as it relates to.
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  Speaker 3: That yes uh well we haven't seen anything have we
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  Speaker 3: we've seen nobody brought to justice not even fauci and
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  Speaker 3: um and i think didn't your president actually give an
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  Speaker 3: award to the chairman of pfizer or something if i
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  Speaker 3: seem to remember rightly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no a hundred percent and i mean fauci uh
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  Speaker 4: clearly lied and um You know, it kills me because
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  Speaker 4: sometimes you'll hear people say, you know, Fauci was a
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  Speaker 4: hero and he saved all these lives. And I ask myself,
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  Speaker 4: do you not read the emails? What he's saying privately
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  Speaker 4: versus what he's saying publicly, including under oath before Congress.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. But that's what I mean. Like, we
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  Speaker 1: have to never assume.
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  Speaker 4: I always assume the government is up to no good.
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  Speaker 4: I hate to say that, but that's where I sort
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  Speaker 4: of fall out ideologically, extremely suspect of anything the government does.
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  Speaker 1: Especially when it comes to interfering.
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  Speaker 4: With my or your liberties in life and our ability
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  Speaker 4: to control our lives and how our lives should be directed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. So a lot of anti-Israel sentiment at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: seems to be, considering they seem to have everything under
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  Speaker 3: their wraps with their old anti-Semitic moniker or defence mechanism,
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  Speaker 3: it seems all that's gone out the window now and
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  Speaker 3: there's just, especially after the Palestine genocide, it seems people
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  Speaker 3: are out for blood and it seems certain people are
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  Speaker 3: losing control of the narrative. What I want to ask John,
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  Speaker 3: how can I put this like you know what the
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  Speaker 3: hell is going on there um what is going on
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  Speaker 3: i mean when i look at for example 9-11 then
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  Speaker 3: i look at the medical i just call it the
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  Speaker 3: scam i don't give it the the c name because
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  Speaker 3: i don't want to like you know validate something that
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  Speaker 3: was that i know in my soul was just completely
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  Speaker 3: evil um then you you know you look at the
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  Speaker 3: architects of what's going on in the world they do
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  Speaker 3: all seem to belong to a certain network and i'm
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  Speaker 3: not stereotyping everybody every jew that would be fucking stupid
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  Speaker 3: um in the same way as also it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people from other ethnicities and faiths that are wrong
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  Speaker 3: what we call wrongans in the uk Um, but what's
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  Speaker 3: going on there? What could you explain for my viewers
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  Speaker 3: at APAC, for example, what, what their power is over
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  Speaker 3: the U S government?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, APAC, um, you know, if you go back
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  Speaker 4: in time, uh, John F. Kennedy, uh, who was president
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  Speaker 4: of the United States wanted to, um, uh, have APAC
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  Speaker 4: register as a foreign lobbyist. And the, They ended up
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  Speaker 4: getting around it by saying that, well, it's an American
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  Speaker 4: sort of entity. It's American Jews that are interested in
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  Speaker 4: the relationship between the alliance between Israel and the United States.
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  Speaker 4: And you can't deny that, anyone can't deny that APEC
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  Speaker 4: has impacted our elected leaders in an incredible way. for example,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of people will say it's anti-Semitic. And
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  Speaker 4: let me just say this too, we have to make
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  Speaker 4: a real distinction between criticizing Israel or Benjamin Netanyahu. And
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  Speaker 4: then a lot of people say, if you do that,
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  Speaker 4: you're anti-Semitic. And I reject that. Unfortunately, there is a
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  Speaker 4: rise of anti-Semitism in the United States. And I've talked
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  Speaker 4: to American Jews And they're afraid to wear their kippah
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  Speaker 4: on public transportation because they'll be called murderers and child
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  Speaker 4: baby killers.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, they're not in control of the Israeli government.
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  Speaker 4: And you don't even know what that that particular Jew
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  Speaker 4: might disagree and want Bibi out.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: But and that's unfortunate where you see the the anti-Semitism
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  Speaker 4: on college campuses of of where. people are taking out
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  Speaker 4: on these individuals here in America. And I think it's
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  Speaker 4: important to recognize that. At the same time, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if I say, okay, I'm going to share some facts
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  Speaker 4: with you, and then all of a sudden the Ben
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  Speaker 4: Shapiros of the world will say, well, John's an anti-Semite.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, no, that's not true. I criticize Donald Trump
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  Speaker 4: doesn't make me anti-American. If I criticize Joe Biden doesn't
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  Speaker 4: make me anti-American. I'm as pro-American as you can. But
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times, I was asked this question, John,
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  Speaker 4: are you pro-Israel.
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  Speaker 1: On the campaign?
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  Speaker 4: I said, I'm pro-America. I can't utter that I'm pro.
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  Speaker 4: I don't say I'm pro-Australia, even though I love Australians, right?
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  Speaker 4: I don't say I'm pro-UK or I'm pro-Japan or any
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  Speaker 4: other nation. So I'm just pro-America. And if it's good
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  Speaker 4: for America and good for my country, then I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to support it. If it's an ally of my country and.
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  Speaker 1: It's an ally that helps America, I'll support it.
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  Speaker 4: But you can't deny, no one can deny that it's
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  Speaker 4: a legitimate question that Americans are having, Chris, does Israel
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  Speaker 4: have too much influence on American politics, right? Just that
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  Speaker 4: kind of concept. And There are 35 states that have
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  Speaker 4: anti-laws on the books that say you're not allowed to
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  Speaker 4: divest or boycott Israel. It's a true story that there's
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  Speaker 4: a small town, I wish I could remember the name,
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  Speaker 4: in Texas, and the mayor was looking at the budget
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  Speaker 4: and saw that $ 3 million was going to Israel. And said, okay, well,
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  Speaker 4: that's out because we have to fix the roads in
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  Speaker 4: our town. And got a call from Abbott, the governor,
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  Speaker 4: who said, you can't do that. There's an executive order
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  Speaker 4: that you're not allowed to divest that money from Israel.
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  Speaker 4: If you do that, then you're not going to get
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  Speaker 4: other funding from the state to that town. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that's going to make people scratch their heads.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean? We're just trying to fix
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  Speaker 1: our roads, but we're not so.
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  Speaker 4: And APEC has definitely influenced American elected leaders to the
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  Speaker 4: point where I made it clear that I won't take
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  Speaker 4: APEC money, I won't take corporate PAC money. And I said,
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  Speaker 4: the reason I won't do it doesn't make me anti-Semitic.
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  Speaker 4: If I want to say that it's unfair for a
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  Speaker 4: Jewish person to be fearful to take their kippah off
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  Speaker 4: because they're going to get beat up, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: call that out, and I don't want someone to say, well,
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  Speaker 4: John's on Apex payroll.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he said it.
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  Speaker 4: At the same time, if I want to say I
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  Speaker 4: got serious questions for Benjamin Netanyahu and the way that
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  Speaker 4: he has allowed Qatar to fund Hamas, knowing that Hamas
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  Speaker 4: was not building hospitals and not building bridges and not
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  Speaker 4: building schools, but was building underground tunnels and and weapons
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  Speaker 4: depots and you were allowing it to go to happen
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  Speaker 4: because you said you could control the flame, the size
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  Speaker 4: of the flame. Well, I got some serious questions. You,
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  Speaker 4: you got some, you need to come and answer these questions.
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  Speaker 4: Don't call me anti-Semitic and don't be disappointed that I'm
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  Speaker 4: calling it the way I see it because I accepted
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  Speaker 4: a donation. So I don't accept those kinds of donations,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, um, uh, when you have 35 states
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  Speaker 4: that have anti, that you can't criticize or boycott Israel,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a problem. And it's okay to acknowledge that, okay,
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  Speaker 4: maybe there's too much influence here. And so it's a
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  Speaker 4: real thing now. And I think because of these things, there.
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  Speaker 1: Is certainly a growing and growing.
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  Speaker 4: anti-Israel narrative in the country because people are are saying, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I believe there's too much influence. And when Marco Rubio says, well,
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  Speaker 4: we went into Iran because Israel was going to do
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  Speaker 4: it regardless of what we said, and we needed to
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: do a preemptive strike to protect our own assets in
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  Speaker 4: the region or our own.
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  Speaker 1: Soldiers, I mean, it's a legitimate question to ask. And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: in these days, if you say that, then you're an anti-Semite.
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  Speaker 1: If you.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if I answered your question, Chris.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you've done well, brother. Thank you. Do you think,
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  Speaker 3: you see, it's kind of crazy. This is not a question.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just throw this out there. But Netanyahu is doing
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  Speaker 3: the speech in the UN the other day. I think
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  Speaker 3: it was the UN and like half the audience just
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  Speaker 3: immediately got up and walked out. But if he does
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  Speaker 3: the same, you know, speech to, is it to the
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  Speaker 3: US Senate, then. then like everyone stands up and gives
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  Speaker 3: him like 14 standing ovations in the middle of a genocide.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, we've all got a bit of work to
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  Speaker 3: do here, haven't we?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. There, there, there's, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the, and the, the, um, the real issue too,
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  Speaker 4: is that there's all this, this talk about the G word, right? Every,
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  Speaker 4: everybody gets fixated, um, Is it a genocide? Oh, it's
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  Speaker 4: not a genocide. It's not a genocide because you can't
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  Speaker 4: prove specific intent. And a lot of the human cost
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  Speaker 4: is lost in all of this debate over a word
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  Speaker 4: that people are having. You can look at the pictures
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  Speaker 4: and you just see a complete leveling of every school,
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  Speaker 4: every church, every synagogue. I mean, everything is just demolished.
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  Speaker 4: And I just think sometimes people spend so much time
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  Speaker 4: arguing over syntax, right, that they lose the human cost
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  Speaker 4: and the accountability. We have to ask ourselves, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what are we doing? And maybe we should stop arguing
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  Speaker 4: semantics sometimes. look at the reality of the situation and ask,
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  Speaker 4: how did we get here? How did this happen? Allow
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  Speaker 4: it to happen. And you're right. I mean, there are
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  Speaker 4: legitimate questions. You know, I've had Jewish people that I've
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  Speaker 4: talked to that support me. And I say, listen, I
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  Speaker 4: will call out you not being able to wear your
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  Speaker 4: kippah or the Star of David. and that you're fearful.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I will extremely be critical
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  Speaker 4: of Bibi. And, you know, if that means that you're
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  Speaker 4: going to lose support of me, then, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: want you to know that up front. And most American
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  Speaker 4: Jews that I've talked to understand that most of them
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  Speaker 4: also want a reset. They they want bb out right
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  Speaker 4: because almost as though we have to move forward and
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  Speaker 4: and with netanyahu as the prime minister um it's never going.
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  Speaker 3: To happen yes do you think there's a a subplot
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  Speaker 3: here john because i've been looking at this a lot
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  Speaker 3: lately on my channel where His behavior is nothing short
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  Speaker 3: of just being an absolute maniac. But perhaps that's the point.
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  Speaker 3: Is he trying to push, for example, for World War
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  Speaker 3: Three so that the people outside that probably control the
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  Speaker 3: whole goddamn show can reconstruct with the digital prisons that
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  Speaker 3: we're all living in fear of and the 15 minute
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  Speaker 3: cities and the, you know, social credit system, digital ID,
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  Speaker 3: which is they've tried to bring this in the into
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  Speaker 3: the uk and people fortunately push back enough for them
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  Speaker 3: to to put it on hold for the time being
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  Speaker 3: but do you think we could all be in play
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: that they're looking for an all-out demolition they want all
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the alpha males to stand up and go off to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: war as they always naively and gullibly do thinking that
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: they're you know it's for king and country or president
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and country um is is that something that we're all
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: missing possibly Well, we shouldn't.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Miss, you know, I don't know if it's on that
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: grand scale, but let's know what we can prove. And
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: what we can prove is just listening to Benjamin Netanyahu's words.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And his words.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Have been, you know, that he's asked every president to
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: take out Iran.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Completely. And they haven't.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: And when President Trump agreed to bomb Iran... Benjamin Netanyahu
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: said that he's waited for this moment for 40 years
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: um and and so clearly and you talk if you
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: see Mike Huckabee talk who's the ambassador of Israel he
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: talks about Israel expanding the entire region of that world
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: you know and expanding its territory and so You know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a World War III thing,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: but there's no doubt that Benjamin Netanyahu would like to
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: control the entire region of that world and grow Israel.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And do it by force. And that alone is enough
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: for me to say stop. Yes.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Moving on to Venezuela and Greenland, isn't it? My God,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: they were kicked into touch pretty quickly. So Friends at Home,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: what I'm getting at is this strategic move to add
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: security to these countries or oust dictators or whatever the
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: cover story is. John, is that not blatantly just a
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: grab for resources in view of the fact that these
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: AI centers, which are cropping up everywhere, if I understand correctly...
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: that take enormous fueling. So if there's one in a state,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: apparently it uses a third of the fuel in the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: state just for the AI database. Do you think that's
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: what we're seeing in reality, is that there's precious resources
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: on the planet? In fact, this is a good book
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: that I think everyone should read. That's the history there
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: on the timeline of the industrial revolution this is uh
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: uh oh sorry that's the beginning of the industrial revolution
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: and this is kind of the blip in the uh
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: exploitation of global resources so this book alleges is coming
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: to an end that there just isn't it's not that
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: there isn't more resources in the planet It's just that
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: it takes so much money and manpower to get it
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: out the ground in these awkward places that everyone's just
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: going for the quick grab now. Does that sound feasible?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and well, when you take into consideration that China
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: controls 90% of the Earth's rare minerals currently, that there
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: is going to be a land grab.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: For as many.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: So Venezuela has one of the highest gold reserves.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: It has other rare earth.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Minerals for the batteries and for cobalt and all of
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: these things. And so does Cuba, even though it's small
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: on its scale. And of course, Venezuela produced all the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: oil for Cuba. So when the United States... took out
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: the president of Venezuela, it was a two for one
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: because it's really also eyeing Cuba as well, which is
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: 90 miles off the Florida coast. And obviously you have
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Greenland and the fact that it has rare minerals.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And so you're right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: This is a race for the AI race and the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: data center race and being able to confiscate or control,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: whatever adjective we want to use, the resources needed to
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: sort of win that race. What we're witnessing is, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: is similar to the Soviet Union and the United States
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: and the nuclear arms race, except it's the AI race.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: And the theory is, you know, that the the nation
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: that first achieves ASI, artificial super intelligence, which would basically
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: mean computer software that is smarter than all humans combined,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: that you're going to be able to win that race
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: and be the only true superpower.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I think that's what we're witnessing play out. And when
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: you do think about artificial superintelligence, and you think about
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: all the technology, we really are living in the surveillance
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: state of the world. You know, every day we are
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: losing more and more of our liberties. We're being tracked more.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Our data is being aggregated more. And scary times, man.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: It's big brothers watching, literally watching.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And that's the other thing we're going to talk about,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: isn't it? They're watching through flock cameras, as you guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: call them stateside. We call them ANPR cameras, automatic number
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: plate recognition. And they're kind of everywhere. You know, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: go and leave your car in a parking lot outside
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: a supermarket and you want to go and do something else.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: You drive out, you know, three hours later, not thinking anything.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: The next thing you know, you've got a You know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you've got the parking people after you for money. But
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: it gets more. We're getting cameras now that look into
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: your car to see if you're on the phone or
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you're eating. I don't even think eating was something you
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: weren't allowed to do when you're driving. And you've got
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a situation over there where, is it police officers have
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: been using this system to check up on their ex-girlfriends
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: or ex-wives? to see if they're seeing a new guy
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: or what they're doing with the children or this sort
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: of thing. What do we think about this?
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, Flock cameras are all over the place. Flock
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: is a private company. And on its surface, we could say, okay, well,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: it's a license plate reader and it will really help
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: us find the stolen cars. More importantly, an Amber Alert,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that's what we call them here in America, where a
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: child is kidnapped and taken. There's immediate Amber Alerts. Your
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: phone will receive an Amber Alert. Digital messages out there
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: on the highways will do it. And obviously, we could
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: find that child faster by using these flock cameras that
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: are All over small towns have contracts with this company.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: The problem is, is that, you know, there goes the
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Fourth Amendment search and seizure where you need to get
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: a warrant by a judge that you have probable cause
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: because they can track you and they can track you
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: every movement because it's integrated. It's a network of cameras.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: And it's connected to other States, even this, this network.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: And so imagine sort of like a blockchain distributed.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Ledger all across the world.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Now imagine that visually with the, with cameras and you
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: can see, uh, you're going to the doctor, you're going
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: to the grocery store, or you're going to see your
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: mistress and you're married to a cop who now is
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: basically tracking your movement.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Where you go.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: And so, um, Now you add, Chris, artificial intelligence, facial recognition,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: and you integrate all of this, and Big Brother is
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: literally watching you. And this private company has your data,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: and they have the cloud infrastructure. And how long do
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: they keep that data?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Does it... exist forever.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: In the cloud and and you know you you're you're
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: a law-abiding citizen and now your entire movements are being
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: tracked that is the very essence of what orwell wrote
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: when he said big brother is watching and so um
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: it is a huge issue in the united states some
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Here in Massachusetts, a couple of the towns have paused
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: or terminated their flock contracts with this company.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Other people are saying, well, we should keep this.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: We just have to regulate it properly by making sure
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: that you have to erase or delete the data every
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: week or.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: 14 days or whatever. So it can't be searched.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: And if anyone does go into the database and search it,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: they have to document why they're searching it, their name
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: and all of this and be audited.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be a huge topic.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: What we're talking about today, data centers, flock cameras, probably
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: the two biggest topics right now in America.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: And you mentioned some things like, you know, going to
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the doctors or leaving work early or whatever. But I mean,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: it could also be you go into a protest.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: It could be you going to see a group of
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: individuals that are against gun ownership being taken away from them.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: And with the track record over all this medical nonsense
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: where checks were supposed to be in place that clearly
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: would just walk roughshod over. Not that personally for people watching,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I believe in any of that toxic poison, but it's...
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: You know, I envisage this scenario where you go to
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the store, as you guys call it, to purchase something,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and you get out your card or you flash them
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: your chip, and they're like, sorry, Mr Thrall, it's saying
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: here that you were at a protest three weeks ago.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: You know, some... gun gun rally uh your your credit's
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: been suspended for not that the girl at the shop
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: is going to tell you this but you know your
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: credit's been suspended for a for a month i mean
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: this just the thought people took that poison just but
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: just so they could go on holiday they could have
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: two weeks in spain what are they.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Gonna you had to go to in order to go
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to school Yeah. In order to finish your degree in order.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I and I got to tell you, I.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I made a post that said, you know, I'm an
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: employer and a lot of people, you know, a small
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: law firm and a lot of people are like there
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: was a push that if someone refused the vaccine, that
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: you should fire them. And I was like, who am
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I to tell another human being? that they have to
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: inject something in their body. And I'm going to fire them.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I'm going to prevent them from being able to pay
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: their mortgage and prevent them their livelihood because.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: They choose what goes in their body.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: To me, when you think about these mandates from the government,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you think about these flock cameras, you think about a
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: central bank digital currency and no more cash and they
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: control everything. programmable money where, Hey, you donate it, Chris,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: you donate it to that one organization.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: That's an extreme organization.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: You're an extremist that you're pushing hate crime and, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: hate speech. So therefore your money doesn't work in that
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: area or, you know, they just turn off.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: It is, it's a scary thought.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: It's a scary thought that, um, Um, and then you
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: just add all this AI and facial recognition and digital
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: imprint and how our data is being sold from one
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: company to another company.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Um, so I said, we're living in scary times, man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. John, I'm aware of your precious time. One last
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: thing I just wanted to cover. Um, And is it
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: AJ is the guy that puts us in touch?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just AJ, big, big thank you to you, sir.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: He mentioned this. It's this... This is where it's like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: as a parent, it gets so close to home. It's
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: these Catholic parents... in massachusetts uh that says the state
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: took custody of their teenage daughter after they refused to
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: affirm her as a boy uh and if i understand
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: correctly i guess the the uh sorry just to continue
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: folks a judge has temporarily blocked the state from administering
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: high dose testosterone testosterone as the family fights the case.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: This is alarming, just not least because I'm 57 now. John,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I can't be trusted to make decisions for my own life.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just not mature enough yet. I still do really
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: stupid things on a whim. How the hell are you
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: expecting a child... OK, teenager, but under the law, still
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: a child to understand where they sit from a perspective
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: of gender or sexuality. It's, you know, my son still
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: he can throw his toys out the pram if you
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: don't buy him a, you know, a bloody the latest
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: squeezy toy. gorilla it is at the moment, these squeezy gorillas.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? That's kind of the
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: level of where he's at.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Over to you. The word you're looking for is insane.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Just so people have context, this Catholic family, they have
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a son and they had a daughter.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: The son is the oldest. The daughter was at the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: time 15 years.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: And the daughter was staying home, coming home late from school.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: The parents inquired and the counselor said, oh, we're just
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: doing tutoring for math and things of that nature. Well,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: the counselor was helping the girl transition into a boy
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: without the parent's knowledge, without the parent's consent. And ultimately,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: when the biological daughter said, I am now a boy,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: and I go by he and him pronouns, and, you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: my name is different, and you're now, you have a
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: second son, and the Catholic family was like, no, that's
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: not how it is, and ultimately, the state gets involved.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: There was an allegation of physical abuse that got denied
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: by the judge, but the judge did allow the state
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Department of Child Services to take custody over the parents.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: And then the state of Massachusetts, the Department of Family Services,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: say they want to pump high doses of testosterone.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Into this girl, who is obviously a minor. And of course,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the judge.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: basically said, we're going to keep the status quo right
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: now and denied it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: They have a hearing next month to determine whether or
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: not the state can basically inject testosterone.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Levels to this girl, you know, causing irreversible issues. And so, again,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: it is scary times. These parents were denied even an
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: opportunity to seek counseling for their child, to handle it
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: and say, okay, you're confused. Let's get some professional treatment
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: and talk. The kid was just yanked out of their
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: lives and they haven't seen their daughter in two years.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: It's frightening as a parent.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It is outrageous.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: It angers me and it would anger any parent to
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: think of the assault on parental rights that's going on
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: in this country, in addition to the assault of our
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: civil liberties, in addition to the assault of our surveillance,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: our privacy, all these things. It's why I said to you, Chris,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: the thought of leaving my children behind as I get
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: older and face my own mortality, I'm someone who's always
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: lived a life of no fear, never give up. And
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I'm scared shitless, man. I'm not afraid or too proud
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: to admit it. I'm scared of leaving my children behind
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: and what this world's going to look like if we
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: continue down the paths that we're continuing down.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: John, I didn't ask you about your campaign. Is this
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: like an... Obviously, it's been ongoing because you've been on...
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: This is your second appearance on the show. Is there
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: an end goal in sight or is this just ongoing until.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: No, there.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: The election is November 3rd. I ran a second time
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: because I thought there was, you know, it's an uphill
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: path in Massachusetts. Massachusetts is very blue, hasn't elected a Republican.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Senator in many, many, many years.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: But I felt compelled to try it one more time
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: because this fellow that I'm going against, he's 80, he's
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: been there 53 years. He's extremely far left, as far
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: left as you can go And I figure that if,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: if there is a chance, uh, this is the year
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: to do it. Um, we'll see if, if I lose
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: this election, um, um, then I probably, I don't foresee
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: running again. Uh, I sort of gave my chance to
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: bring common sense to Washington, uh, and whether I'm the
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: right guy in the wrong state or the wrong guy,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but, um, I'll be able to say
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: to my daughters that, listen, I tried to make a difference,
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: not just in my life and their life, but bring
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: some kind of common sense to Washington because God knows
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: they've lost it. I mean, our founders would have never envisioned, Chris,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: that you would go to Washington for 50 years. I mean,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: this guy's been in office longer than 20% of our
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: entire country's existence. That's just, insane to me but if
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: the voters vote them in again then you know the
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: voters you know they get to choose and that's okay
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: but at least i'll be able to say uh i
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: tried everything i could um to make a difference not
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: just in my life but in other people's lives and
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: and i'll be able to live with the.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Result yes and let's not forget john you have made
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: a difference i think just having open conversations like this
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: allows other people to see oh you're allowed to discuss
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: this and that stuff now are you you know because
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: um i can even see it in my comment section
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: people are coming out but sometimes it's not very particularly
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: pleasant but at least people feel that they can express
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: their opinion now and with a you know element of
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: sort of safety um so thank you so much you
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: know for for for being so transparent.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: No, thank you for having me. I'm sure we'll see
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: each other again. Look forward to it. Always a pleasure
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: to talk to you and hope everybody has a great
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: day today. Yes.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you, John. I'm just going to play us out.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: So if you need to go, please don't hang around.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: If on the other hand, I can thank you properly
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: after I play us out, then stay on the line.
• 41:55
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• 42:01
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• 42:08
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• 42:14
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• 42:19
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• 42:25
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• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Much love.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you.