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Zack Moss on Utah's 33-0 win over Utah St, Wayshawn Parker's 94 yarder taken away by penalty, Big 12 opener Saturday at Iowa St + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to The Sean O'Connell Show, your source for
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  Speaker 1: the best youth football coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Here's O.C.
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  Speaker 1: From the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM.
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  Speaker 3: Zach Moss is going to join us here in about
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  Speaker 3: five minutes on The Sean O'Connell Show, recapping Utah versus Utah.
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  Speaker 2: State, getting started.
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  Speaker 3: Into Big 12 play, which of course comes next for
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  Speaker 3: Devin Dampier and Way Sean Parker and the rest of
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  Speaker 3: your Utes. We spent a little time in the last
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  Speaker 3: segment talking about the Big 12 Conference and the power
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  Speaker 3: play of the Big 12 Conference. You got a top
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  Speaker 3: 10 team now in the AP Top 25. It is
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  Speaker 3: the hated rival of the University of Utah. It is
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  Speaker 3: the BYU Cougars who improved to 3-0 with a 41-23
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  Speaker 3: victory over Colorado State. And this game, really good game
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  Speaker 3: for BYU. Haas Haney, the Colorado State quarterback, who I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if he stays healthy in this game and
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  Speaker 3: he left with a tweaked hamstring, I think if he
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  Speaker 3: stays in this game, you potentially could have seen a
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  Speaker 3: more valiant effort from Colorado State.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend that the Rams would have
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  Speaker 2: beaten BYU today.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe giving them a little bit tougher test because
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  Speaker 3: I think this is one of the best teams that
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  Speaker 3: the Mountain West Conference has to offer. I think this
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  Speaker 3: is one of the best teams that you're going to
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  Speaker 3: find in a group of six football. I think this
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  Speaker 3: is probably like a top 15, top 20 team at
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  Speaker 3: that level. But the real story in this game, 41-23.
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  Speaker 2: For BYU, was L.J.
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  Speaker 4: Martin.
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  Speaker 2: 15 carries, 176 yards, three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That's almost 12 yards of carry.
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  Speaker 3: He was an absolute nightmare for the Rams to try
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  Speaker 3: to contain.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, everyone was.
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  Speaker 3: Every one of BYU's runners in this one went for
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  Speaker 3: six yards of carry or more. Journey Tonga, you and
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  Speaker 3: I have not been talking about him. He's got an
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  Speaker 3: incredible head of hair on him. If you go click
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  Speaker 3: on his picture on ESPN. 5'8, almost 200 pounds, 10 carries,
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  Speaker 3: 91 yards in this game. Just BYU's got some weapons
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  Speaker 3: this year, and I get it. Colorado State is not
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  Speaker 3: going to be their toughest test, not going to be
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  Speaker 3: the strongest indicator. We're going to learn a lot more
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  Speaker 3: about the Cougs as they get into Big 12 play.
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  Speaker 3: And they start on the road at TCU in the
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  Speaker 3: Big 12, but they have a bye week this week.
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  Speaker 3: So the early season bye... For BYU, I don't like
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  Speaker 3: the timing of that if I'm a Cougs fan. They'll
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  Speaker 3: come off the bye road game at TCU, and then
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  Speaker 3: it'll be Iowa State after that.
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  Speaker 2: So that'll be the first time in.
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  Speaker 3: Week five when we get to see what BYU and
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  Speaker 3: Utah look like compared to a common opponent. Utah will
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  Speaker 3: already have played Iowa State. Iowa State will then they'll
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  Speaker 3: come to Provo to take on BYU, and in week five,
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  Speaker 3: we'll finally be able to get more of an apples-to-apples
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  Speaker 3: sort of comparison between these two teams. That'll be the
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  Speaker 3: first one. West Virginia, I already talked about on the show.
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia looks really good right now. West Virginia is 3-0.
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  Speaker 3: Iowa State, where Utah's got to ply their trade this
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  Speaker 3: coming weekend, they're 2-1 on the season. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: be talking about them a lot during the week as
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  Speaker 3: we lead up to it. Their loss came at the
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  Speaker 3: hands of Iowa 16-13 to a ranked Iowa team in
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  Speaker 3: the Cy Hawk battle. So if there is such thing,
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  Speaker 3: it's a quality loss for Iowa State University. But I think, guys,
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  Speaker 3: as is often the case, we're going to end up
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  Speaker 3: looking back at our preseason predictions and our expectations for
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  Speaker 3: the Big 12 Conference, and we're going to say, wow,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't talk about blank enough absolutely texas tech byu
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  Speaker 3: utah they're going to factor in arizona who's kind of
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  Speaker 3: like my lead horse in the race to be that
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  Speaker 3: fourth team that we talked about uh may or may
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  Speaker 3: not be there i think houston from what we've seen
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  Speaker 3: from them so far uh makes a stronger case for
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  Speaker 3: themselves than arizona does at this juncture kansas state with
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  Speaker 3: avery johnson uh he had 227 yards passing and 152
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  Speaker 3: yards rushing against Tulane this past weekend. He beat the
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  Speaker 3: Green Wave basically himself.
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  Speaker 2: And they're 3-0.
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  Speaker 3: Nichols State, they beat Nichols State, they beat Washington State,
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  Speaker 3: and then they found victory over Tulane. All home games
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  Speaker 3: for Kansas State as well. So very similar to Utah.
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  Speaker 3: They have yet to travel. Now they're heading this week
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  Speaker 3: to Cincinnati. Cincinnati does not look like a team that
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  Speaker 3: that people should sleep on either. Cincinnati is also 3-0,
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  Speaker 3: although their best win so far against Boston College. At
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  Speaker 3: least that's a power opponent. They also beat Western Carolina
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  Speaker 3: and Miami of Ohio. Obscure Mascot Challenge, Western Carolina. The
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  Speaker 3: mascot for Western Carolina, James, who lost.
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  Speaker 2: 62-10 against Cincinnati. Cincinnati. I feel like it's Bobcats, right?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yes, but no. Okay, because the actual name is
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  Speaker 3: the Catamounts. Cat of the Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: Catamounts. That could be a Bobcat. I'm like, I've seen
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  Speaker 2: the logo before for sure. I was picturing a Bobcat type,
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  Speaker 2: but Catamounts.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Catamount. Western Carolina Catamount. I think that's Virginia too, right?
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  Speaker 2: Not Virginia. Vermont. Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: Vermont.
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  Speaker 2: Different. Virginia is the Cavaliers. Cavaliers. I said Virginia was
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  Speaker 2: thinking Vermont. As we often do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We welcome the Utah football legend, NFL veteran, and currently
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  Speaker 3: also the sideline reporter for all Utah radio broadcasts, Zach Moss,
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  Speaker 3: comes back on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: Zach, welcome. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Speaker 2, good, good. Good to be back. How are
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  Speaker 4: you guys doing?
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  Speaker 2: All right, man.
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  Speaker 3: A beautiful day at rice Eccles on a Saturday and
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful result for the university of Utah, 33 to
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  Speaker 3: zero all in the battle of the brothers over Utah state.
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  Speaker 3: You know, really strong first half for the youths. Things
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  Speaker 3: kind of slowed down a little bit in the second half,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll focus on that first half for now.
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  Speaker 2: What did you like most from this Utah football offense?
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  Speaker 4: I love the way they started off fast. You know,
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  Speaker 4: that's always a... a real good sign for really good offenses.
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  Speaker 4: Offenses that can start early, get things going, put up points,
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  Speaker 4: and capitalize when the opportunities are there for them. So
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  Speaker 4: I think they did a really good job of that
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  Speaker 4: on Saturday. Obviously, it's not a rivalry game to some degree, right? But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they focused on doing the things they need
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  Speaker 4: to do. So that was really good to see. And
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  Speaker 4: they got Brandon Pagan going to that game as well. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it was a really good showing in that
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  Speaker 4: first half for sure.
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  Speaker 3: The, the run game, the Utah run game gave, they
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  Speaker 3: produced almost 200 yards of total offense, about five yards
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  Speaker 3: of carry. But the overall numbers are skewed a little
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  Speaker 3: bit by like a big Daniel Bray run. And when
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  Speaker 3: we talk about the actual kind of like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the workhorse type stuff, Utah state did a good job
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  Speaker 3: of limiting production on the, the average carry. It was
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  Speaker 3: three yards of carry for dev three yards for way,
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  Speaker 3: Sean bird, just shy of five yards. And I know
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  Speaker 3: the end result is all that matters. And it was
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  Speaker 3: 33 to zero. So we're getting pretty, pretty nitpicky here,
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  Speaker 3: but is there any even mild concern for you that
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  Speaker 3: the run game did not get going the way they
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  Speaker 3: wanted it to?
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  Speaker 4: Speaker 3 6th, you know, I think You know, I
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  Speaker 4: think the interior run game is something that we do
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  Speaker 4: have to look at. You know, I was kind of
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  Speaker 4: not critical, but I pointed it out versus Idaho, right, that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we had a really good run game that night.
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  Speaker 4: or outside edges, right? Getting plays outside, things of that nature, right?
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  Speaker 4: And making plays out there. But when it came to
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  Speaker 4: run the ball between the A gaps and the B gaps,
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  Speaker 4: it was pretty much non-existent. And then, you know, we
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  Speaker 4: saw that again Saturday versus Utah State team where a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the runs especially for Parker, were designed to
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  Speaker 4: go inside, hitting inside, and it was almost no space.
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  Speaker 4: It was either getting hit at the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 4: or getting two, three yards and getting taken down. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of daylight for him. Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: Bray helped those numbers out a lot because without that
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  Speaker 4: big run, I think a lot more people would be
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  Speaker 4: looking at it a certain way. The run game is
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  Speaker 4: all about physicality and being dominant as a mindset. You
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  Speaker 4: don't always have big plays. You don't always have a
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  Speaker 4: great run game. But I think I'm sure the coaches
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  Speaker 4: are looking at it and trying to figure out ways
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  Speaker 4: that they can just get a little bit better inside
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  Speaker 4: the run game. You know, you can drop a lot
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  Speaker 4: of stuff, right? We have a lot of formations and
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  Speaker 4: things like that. But at the end of the day
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  Speaker 4: is about the guy in front of you. You got
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  Speaker 4: to win that matchup.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we right now in the run game inside,
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  Speaker 4: we just haven't been doing that consistently.
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  Speaker 3: Zach, what's the longest run you ever had called back
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  Speaker 3: on a penalty in your career?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely not a 94, 98 yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I never had that problem. I would have been real,
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  Speaker 4: real upset. Yeah, so now I know he was he
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  Speaker 4: was really mad about that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Speaker 2, obviously you got to go back to the
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  Speaker 3: huddle after that.
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  Speaker 2: Probably a little winded reset mentally.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And make sure you get back in the game, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's an, I mean, whether it's.
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  Speaker 3: A 40 yard or a 20 yard, or even a,
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  Speaker 3: even a first down that gets called back can be frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: What's the right way to handle that with your teammates?
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  Speaker 3: And more importantly, with the teammate that committed the penalty
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  Speaker 3: that took the touchdown off the board?
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  Speaker 4: You know, that play, honestly, you know, when you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to run an inside zone run, those plays usually want
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  Speaker 4: to hit on the backside of an inside zone run.
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  Speaker 4: He broke that run to the front side of that play.
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  Speaker 4: So anytime as a running back, if you break an
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  Speaker 4: inside zone run to the front, the chances of a
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  Speaker 4: penalty happening is very high. They just happened to bring
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  Speaker 4: a blitz on the backside. So as soon as he
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  Speaker 4: got the ball, that front side was wide open in
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  Speaker 4: that B-gap, C-gap area. So he took it, right? But
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  Speaker 4: that's where, you know, there's zone blocking. So they're not
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  Speaker 4: trying to really be ass square, the offensive linemen. So
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  Speaker 4: him pushing his guy to the right and Wayshawn just
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  Speaker 4: happened to hit that hole, right? The chances of him
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  Speaker 4: going that way, regularly or very low. So it was
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  Speaker 4: just one of those plays where, you know, You never
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  Speaker 4: really get to the front door of an inside zone play,
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  Speaker 4: and he just happened to get there, and all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden he just happened to not be in a
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  Speaker 4: good position. Because if he's in that position and Wayshawn
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  Speaker 4: hits that play backside, that's exactly what you're looking for.
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  Speaker 4: He just happened to hit a front side. But, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you got to just continue to keep hammering with the guys.
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  Speaker 4: You know, now that they know that sometimes Wayshawn can
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  Speaker 4: possibly hit this this inside zone play to the front
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  Speaker 4: door right that's a conversation you have with your guys
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  Speaker 4: um so that way they can learn your tendencies and
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  Speaker 4: you can learn their tendencies and you can just let
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  Speaker 4: them know hey man if you could be a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more square right something you may see on film
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  Speaker 4: um throughout the week right and maybe you get an
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  Speaker 4: inside zone run uh at the front door in practice
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  Speaker 4: you know and you just have that little slight comment
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  Speaker 4: to you guys you know continue to let them know
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  Speaker 4: that you know you're a dynamic player and this ball
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  Speaker 4: can go anywhere so just to you know, have that
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  Speaker 4: in the back of your mind would be nice.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're an offensive player, but the mentality for
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  Speaker 3: a Utah team, this is the first time they've shut out,
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  Speaker 3: put a zero on a, on a division one, like
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  Speaker 3: an F FBS team in what?
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  Speaker 2: Seven years.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a, to me, that's a good feather in
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  Speaker 3: the cap for your defense. That's good team ball. That's
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  Speaker 3: obviously something That feels good to blank an opponent. What
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  Speaker 3: does that do for this week of practice and for
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  Speaker 3: momentum and things like that that you know your defense
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  Speaker 3: is capable of not just playing well but shutting out
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  Speaker 3: an opponent?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that gives you a lot of room for error.
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  Speaker 4: on the offense. And this offense is obviously really explosive.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they can do a lot of things. I
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  Speaker 4: think right now, you know, when you're offense and you know,
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  Speaker 4: you got defense like that, you know, mainly for the
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  Speaker 4: officer coordinator, it doesn't, you don't have to hold back
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  Speaker 4: on some of your creativity that you might have, right.
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  Speaker 4: Some of these trick plays and certain things of that nature.
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  Speaker 4: We know we now can go forward on four from one,
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  Speaker 4: four from two, four from three, right. Maybe at midfield
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  Speaker 4: where some teams with a, shaky defense right not a
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  Speaker 4: really good red zone defense either would have to you
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  Speaker 4: know pretty much be in punt territory not even crossing
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  Speaker 4: the 50 um or being right at midfield so you
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  Speaker 4: know that gives this team a lot more leverage it
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  Speaker 4: allows them to attack um these these defenses a lot
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  Speaker 4: differently so you know having a team a defense like
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  Speaker 4: that that's that's huge.
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  Speaker 3: Zach Moss for another couple minutes here on the Sean
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  Speaker 3: O'Connell Show talking about Utah football. 33-0 over Utah State
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  Speaker 3: this past weekend, and they head on the road for
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  Speaker 3: the first time this year against Iowa State. For the
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  Speaker 3: people who never did it, Zach, give me like a
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  Speaker 3: real sense of how different road games are than home
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  Speaker 3: games as you're trying to perform in a consistent manner.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's tough. You know, sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: I think the good thing is, you know, it's great
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  Speaker 4: for the fans to have three straight home games, right,
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  Speaker 4: to open up the year where you haven't seen football
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  Speaker 4: in a while. So you kind of get to get
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  Speaker 4: into your routine and things of that nature. So that
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  Speaker 4: was fun. But, you know, as a team overall, it
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  Speaker 4: can be a little tricky, right? You get three straight games.
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  Speaker 4: at home, right? You don't really know what your routine is.
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  Speaker 4: We talk about going on a road game, right? You
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  Speaker 4: guys have to travel now. They have to deal with travel,
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  Speaker 4: how that feels on their body for the first time
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  Speaker 4: all season, right? It's different every year, right? Just because
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  Speaker 4: they've traveled before in the past doesn't mean it's the
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  Speaker 4: absolute same operation, right? So, you know, some of that
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  Speaker 4: has to do with some things. You know, I pointed
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  Speaker 4: out in our post-game show Saturday, um evening that you
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  Speaker 4: know with the offense being so good at home right
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about crowd noise right you
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  Speaker 4: know the way we use our cadences right now with
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  Speaker 4: all the clapping and the things of that nature right
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  Speaker 4: how does that translate over how does these motions and
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  Speaker 4: things of that nature time out perfectly all these different
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  Speaker 4: formations and shifts and things that like all that stuff
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  Speaker 4: you know is really easy to do when you are
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  Speaker 4: at home and your crowd knows to, you know, lower
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  Speaker 4: it down when you're operating, right? So now... That shifts
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  Speaker 4: when you're going to be on the offensive side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball. And their crowd is very, very loud. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they got some challenges for sure. You know,
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  Speaker 4: and it'll be all these guys' first time on the
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  Speaker 4: road together, right, when you talk about Coach McGivens on
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  Speaker 4: the road with the offense and Coach Swan as the D.C.
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  Speaker 4: on the road with his defense as well. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it'll be another big, big challenge, big stepping stone for
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  Speaker 4: everybody involved this weekend down there in Ames.
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  Speaker 3: How many times have you been to Iowa yourself, Zach?
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  Speaker 4: Never.
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  Speaker 3: Be prepared to see a lot of cornfields, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: Both of my parents are from Iowa, so my grandparents
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  Speaker 3: lived well. I still have a grandma in Iowa. I
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  Speaker 3: go to Iowa like three or four times a year.
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  Speaker 3: It is a flat, corn-filled place. It's different, man. I
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  Speaker 3: think that You know, Salt Lake City, we get a
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  Speaker 3: great environment here. There is, to me, there's a difference
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  Speaker 3: between when a town is truly like a college town.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that's going on in that town is
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  Speaker 3: the college football or the college basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Ames is very much that. So I think you'll like
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  Speaker 2: the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. You know, getting back
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  Speaker 4: on the road and having to, you know, Some things
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  Speaker 4: you kind of take for granted, I guess, in the
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  Speaker 4: sense when you think about when you're playing, right? You're
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  Speaker 4: in the moment. You're in that place right there. And
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  Speaker 4: you're just kind of going and you're trying to think
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  Speaker 4: about how you can perform, right? So over the last
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  Speaker 4: 10 years, that's kind of what my brain has been.
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  Speaker 4: So now it's really cool to get the opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: go back into different stadiums, see different fan bases. You know,
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  Speaker 4: and college to me has always been... much more superior
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  Speaker 4: when it comes to the fan bases. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I just said like the college towns and things of
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  Speaker 4: that nature, right? Like these, these places are so unique
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: in so many different ways. So, you know, obviously being
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: in the big 12, we got some different games and
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: places I've never been before. So that's going to be
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the best part for me is it's kind of, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: having a chance to soak it all in from a
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: different perspective.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: For Your guy, Devin Lloyd, who I don't think there's
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: ever been a bigger Devin Lloyd fan than me. He
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: had one of the most incredible individual performances by a
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: linebacker Like in NFL history, and I know like we
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: can be prone to exaggerations, but two picks, pick six, sack,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: force fumble, PBU, just an outrageously productive game for a
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: guy you know well. Did you see it live or
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: did you just catch the highlights? What's your reaction to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd showing out on the NFL level the way
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: we got used to him doing it at Utah?
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I'll have many games where I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: might watch an Atlanta versus Carolina Panthers game on my Sundays.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: You know, I like to watch great quarterback play. Bryce
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Young is turning that way, but the Falcons, they don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: really have much chance, so I won't be watching much
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: So I didn't watch the game is the short answer. But, yeah,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, Lloyd definitely had– absolutely ridiculous game. And he's,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: he's always been a really, really unique player. You know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: even at the U during our time together, we played together,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I think it was two years. You know, I remember
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: him as a young player, but he was beyond athletic.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: He can do so many different things and, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: This is credit to Coach Swan on getting him ready
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: to go be this dominant player, right? I played him
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: in Jacksonville a couple years ago, and, you know, he
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: was still learning the position, right? And he's a really
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: smart guy that's always trying to learn. That's where players...
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: And you can have a guy like Lloyd with all
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: the athletic ability, but credit to him because he's always
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: wanted to learn. He just didn't lean on his athletic ability.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: He's always continued to get better. That's why you see
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: him making interceptions going back to last year and the
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: year before that. He's always in the right place. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: now when it comes from wanting to learn film study
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: and things of that nature, it's you know, he's always
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: been a really good player. We saw that at the U.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously when I left, you know, is when
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: he really took off. But I remember going against him
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: in practice and I hated having to block him. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: hated having to block him. um in practice just because
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: you know the type of athlete that he that he
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: was then that he is still now even on a
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: bigger body frame um you know and i had the
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: same thoughts when we played him in jacksonville a few
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: years ago i was like man i hope i don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: have to um you know tackle this dude but i
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: did score a touchdown on him so you know i
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: do get that over him a little bit.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Speaker 2, you get that one in the group chat,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: at least any thoughts, any thoughts on, on Rams giants,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Monday night football tonight, are these teams you like to watch?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about good quarterback play.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You'll get, you'll get both in this one, two really
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: interesting running backs as well. Cam Scataboo is like a
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: cartoon character to me.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: He's hilarious.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But any thoughts on that game tonight?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Speaker 3, that's a good game. The giants are A team,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I think, that has a lot of really good players.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: And it's a perfect storm with Coach Harbaugh coming in
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: there and instilling a mentality and a culture that they
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: just didn't really have the last few years out there. So,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: you know, it's great to see them. And then, obviously,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the Rams being... You know, the most talked about franchise
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: probably all offseason with all the moves and things of
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: that nature. So, you know, obviously you got Jackson Dart,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: who's been doing some really good things, obviously from Utah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And then you got Matthew Stafford, who's been doing it
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: for a long time. So, you know, it's going to
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: definitely be a great battle between two teams. You know, Scatterboo,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: like you said, you know, he's definitely a character, right?
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Aaron Donald is playing, but, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: he said some things about Aaron essentially having to be
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: ready to play football regardless. You know, maybe not the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: smartest thing, but we will see how that goes. But yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: you know, both teams are in really good places right now.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of questions about both sides of
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the ball. But I think, you know, on a Monday
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: night game, we've been getting some really good games so
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: far this season. So I don't think there's going to
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: be any different.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Speaker 2, all right, last thing before we let you go.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: And I, I have to allow for the, I'm, I'm
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: like a certified hater sometimes on certain players. And I
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: can be accused of being that with Caleb Williams over
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the years, but He got carted off on a hamstring
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: strain for the Chicago bears. I'm sure you saw it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: or at least saw the highlight of the low light
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of it. And how is this reacted to in a
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: locker room? Like what is the right way to handle this?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: If you're his teammate, I know the opponents are going
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: to be talking trash whenever he's back on the field, but.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: He's, he's crying.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: He's rolling around on the field. Like it's a season
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: ending injury. I was watching it. I'm like, oh man,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that stinks. He just blew out his knee or something.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: It's not that. And now that we have the hindsight, like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: how do you react to this if you're in the locker.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Room with him?
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, depending on your relationship with him, that probably
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: depends on how much you can either joke or not
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: joke around with it at him. Personally, you know, I
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: think mainly a lot of guys would probably be quiet
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: about it, honestly, just because it can be a distraction
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: and it's already going to be a distraction from the
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: outside people and, you know, obviously social media and things
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: of that nature. So, you know, they probably won't bring
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of attention to it internally. But, yeah, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: it was definitely... funny afterwards, right? Realizing that it was
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: just a hamstring thing and hamstrings can.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Hurt, right?
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: He was obviously running full speed. I don't know if
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: it resulted in crying and things of that nature and
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: getting carted off. I've never pulled a hamstring, but I've
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: done some other things that I've played with that were
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: definitely worse than a hamstring that I played through. You know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: but still, you know, everybody's different. He's obviously a really
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: good player and things like that. So hopefully he just
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: gets back from that and puts a lot of good
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: football on tape so that way people kind of forget
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: about the whole carted off thing on social media because
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: they are definitely having a blast with that right now.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guilty of it myself, Zach, but that's just
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the way things go.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you giving us some time.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Have a fun time in Ames and bring us back
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: some corn, I guess, because that's what they got.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Some corn and a win. That might be a good weekend.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Zach Moss, former Utah running back, legend, and,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: of course, NFL veteran as well.