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Best of Chuck & Buck 5-21 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Are you writing this down?
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  Speaker 3: No? Something complete?
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  Speaker 1: This is Chuck and Buck in the Morning.
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  Speaker 4: What's up, folks?
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  Speaker 1: Why you people are beyond Let's go, Let's get the
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  Speaker 1: game on. Hey, great Thursday morning too. You welcome into
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  Speaker 1: the radio show called Chugging Buck in the Morning Sports
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  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three k j R f M.
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  Speaker 1: It is wonderful to have you with us here on
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  Speaker 1: this day, and of course you'll be with us till
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  Speaker 1: ten o'clock soaking it all up like some big giant
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  Speaker 1: absorb it. Biscuit. We welcome it and it's great to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us. And when I say us, Ashley
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  Speaker 1: is back after two days pretending she was Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 1: Hard work.
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  Speaker 2: I had to do a lot of push ups, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of push ups.
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  Speaker 1: So do you try to pretend to.
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  Speaker 2: Be Greg I was not prepared for that. Nobody tells you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we joke about Greg Bell doing push ups
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  Speaker 1: and he admitted on the air he can do like
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  Speaker 1: a hundred in a row.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot.
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  Speaker 1: I found out rough, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to step into those combat boots.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta do one hundred like before
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  Speaker 4: the show starts, or can I spread it out throughout
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  Speaker 4: the two hours?
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  Speaker 1: Get up in the morning. Yeah, you gotta do it.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to be a Greg Bell, you
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  Speaker 1: got to do it before even you get up normally,
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  Speaker 1: which you get up really early because you have to
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  Speaker 1: live up to the I did more before anybody else
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  Speaker 1: did all day, before they even got up.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you. I didn't do them
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  Speaker 4: like at four in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I did not wake up early like my
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  Speaker 2: normal time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I see, yeah, I see, I see it.
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  Speaker 1: Not you decided that maybe that was something that you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't continue.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, exactly. I slept until seven fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow, that's like, oh man, you missed magic hour?
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  Speaker 2: Uh I did? Is that is the magic hour of
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  Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour? Where the sun's coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, magic hours, the six o'clock hour, theirst hour of
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Every dingy did I miss it?
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  Speaker 1: This is Magic Hour? You didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, now life's going to change for you.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to see the world is completely different now.
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  Speaker 2: It feels so much more magical.
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  Speaker 1: Corn Flakes are going to taste different now that you
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  Speaker 1: know this is Magic Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's ask the real question. Who eats corn flakes?
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  Speaker 2: There's no flavor there at all.
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  Speaker 1: I did as a kid because that was healthier, my parents'
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  Speaker 1: attempt to give us healthier stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But like when you have choices, oh yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, and then there's some well who puts sugar
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  Speaker 4: on corn flakes? Just go get frosted flakes, man, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that put sugar on frosted flakes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is just too much. But why buy corn
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  Speaker 4: flakes add sugar?
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  Speaker 1: The ginger who's not here might be one of those candidates, but.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, why buy cornflakes and add sugar? Just buy
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  Speaker 4: the cereal that's got the sugar in there for you.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right about that. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like frosted many wheats. Yeah, you know who's gonna
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  Speaker 1: get regular old many wheats. After you've gone to that world,
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  Speaker 1: after you've gone to that Paradise psychos, after you've taken
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  Speaker 1: a tour around that Disneyland.
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  Speaker 4: At that point, you might as well just buy a
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  Speaker 4: cardboard box and rip it up. It's going to be cheaper,
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  Speaker 4: cut it up into little squares, and chew on that
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  Speaker 4: for a while.
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  Speaker 1: A long time since I've even had breakfast cereal. Well,
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  Speaker 1: good morning to you, and welcome, I mean a long
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  Speaker 1: time welcome into the show here on this Thursday. We
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  Speaker 1: got a very busy program plan for you. Actually, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, not really we don't have that busy of
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  Speaker 1: a show planned for you, but certainly we've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of topics. The mari are giving us a lot
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  Speaker 1: of content, a lot of thoughder here this week, and
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  Speaker 1: it really times out well like this is the first
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  Speaker 1: week that NFL hasn't had something that in some way
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  Speaker 1: takes up a lot of our programming and our thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and our minds and our lives. And the Mariners are
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  Speaker 1: just like, we got you, We got you covered. We
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  Speaker 1: got all sorts of juicy topics for you. Next week,
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  Speaker 1: and so we'll break down a few of those today.
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  Speaker 1: And did want to thank Anders and Travis for filling
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  Speaker 1: in the last couple of days, and gosh, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be hard just out there. Have some sympathy for them.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they just went to the mountaintop the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of days and now they got to go back
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  Speaker 1: to their humdrum average lives.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll tell you, I listened my hour and twenty
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  Speaker 4: minute commute into the station both days. That's different, and
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  Speaker 4: you guys sounded great. They sounded like they were just
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  Speaker 4: live in the life.
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  Speaker 1: It was Yeah, thanks for noticing.
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  Speaker 2: I could hear their smiles.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when you get to make dreams come true
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  Speaker 1: in this business, it just, I don't know, does something
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  Speaker 1: for you. It really humbles you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and warms your heart right right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, more than anything. I'm like, this really humbles me
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  Speaker 1: that you two get to work with me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, glad it did
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  Speaker 4: that for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some people would let that go to
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  Speaker 1: their heads. But it was surprising, a humbling experience to
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  Speaker 1: think that here's these two guys that have waited their
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  Speaker 1: entire lives to do this.
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  Speaker 2: Two days. Yeah, and you got two days of magic.
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  Speaker 1: So good luck going back to parenthood if that's what
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  Speaker 1: they're calling it these days.
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  Speaker 2: They do think they call it that.
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  Speaker 1: But let me tell you, marriage like, uh be hard
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  Speaker 1: to be hard to find some joy in that. Again, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is after you've been to the mountaintop.
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  Speaker 4: But now you're just now you're gonna go look at
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  Speaker 4: your They're gonna go look at.
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  Speaker 2: Their wives, right right, kids and be like, yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: this is it.
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  Speaker 1: Huh, this is it.
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  Speaker 2: This is the best it's gonna get.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I gotta go back to this.
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  Speaker 4: And then they're gonna be calling me, calling Greg, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: when's your next vacation?
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  Speaker 1: Right the grind. But anyway, you got a taste of it.
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  Speaker 1: You have a taste of the magic, and uh, it
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  Speaker 1: was great having you in. All right, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so Mariners win. We'll get into that with
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  Speaker 1: Mariners morning after But it's been since yesterday afternoon since
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  Speaker 1: that happened, I mean a long time ago. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners again have done us a lot of favors
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  Speaker 1: this week because I mean, we did an entire show
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  Speaker 1: on Piggybacking for goodness sake yesterday, and then earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the week we did practically an entire show on Colt Emerson.
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  Speaker 1: And although we're not going to do an entire show
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  Speaker 1: on it today, I do believe, and I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: right to believe that our number one story, which we'll
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  Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on today, is JP Crawford
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  Speaker 1: and his acceptance of the future and the handoff to
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  Speaker 1: the future that he has volunteered to make. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean very interesting, very interesting story here revolving around JP Crawford.
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  Speaker 1: And so you know, we do all of this talk
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  Speaker 1: for weeks about when is it going to be Cold
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  Speaker 1: Emerson's time? And you know, analyze JP, who has shown
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  Speaker 1: the age. I mean, he's not an old man by
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  Speaker 1: any means, but sometimes players age faster than others. And
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  Speaker 1: JP's just not as fast or quick as what he
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  Speaker 1: used to be, even though he's still a relatively young man.
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  Speaker 1: And the metrics were suggesting that every year since his
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  Speaker 1: Gold Glove award at shortstop, which was not that long ago,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen a slight decline in his mobility and in
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  Speaker 1: his defensive metrics numbers. And JP has obviously wanted to
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  Speaker 1: play shortstop. That's the position that he wants. He's also
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be a leadoff man since he arrived. JP
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  Speaker 1: the newcomer and I used to have a conversation every
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  Speaker 1: spring and it was I mean, it was something that
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  Speaker 1: we did every spring when he arrived, and I you know,
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  Speaker 1: that did not continue, by the way, And yet and
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  Speaker 1: yet that was what JP wanted to do. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be a leadoff man and I want to play shortstop. Well,
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  Speaker 1: here we have cold Emerson on the come. You've got
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  Speaker 1: people all over social media, and I have no idea, Astuley,
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  Speaker 1: how much these players pay attention to social media. Probably
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  Speaker 1: can't avoid it, right, you know, they probably do participate.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't if I were them, but they probably do participate.
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  Speaker 2: I would think.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much they listen to talk radio.
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  Speaker 1: My guess is not a lot, that would be my guess,
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  Speaker 1: and morning radio forget about it. Yeah, these are guys that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, spend a lot of time stand up late,
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  Speaker 1: or at least they used to. And and so maybe
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  Speaker 1: now that everybody's on the team's got a baby, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they don't. Maybe it's just like I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: get to bed. I don't know. I got to get
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  Speaker 1: up more early with the kid. And so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if what we say impacts them in any way,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly, you know been hypercritical. I've been hypercritical of
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  Speaker 1: JP Crawford, and I have tried to measure that against
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I still think he's the best shortstop
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  Speaker 1: in the organization, because twenty year olds don't typically just
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  Speaker 1: come into the league and hit the ground running. But
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  Speaker 1: my feeling was that at some point we would have
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  Speaker 1: that moment in our season where I thought that once
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  Speaker 1: Colt Emerson got a few more at Betts was more
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  Speaker 1: consistently putting the ball in play. I've seen him play
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  Speaker 1: a few times in Tacoma, and I know he's already
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  Speaker 1: a better defensive shortstop than JP Crawford is right now,
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  Speaker 1: at this point in his life, I thought that I
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  Speaker 1: was at some point going to announce to the world
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  Speaker 1: it's time Cold Emerson needs to replace JP Crawford. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean that JP Crawford can't have a spot on this roster,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean we want to give him a bus ticket
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  Speaker 1: out of town. It just means we're after a World
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  Speaker 1: Series this year and we're gonna play the best guys
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  Speaker 1: for the job. And I thought it at some point
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  Speaker 1: this season Colt Emerson would be that guy. And then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this week arrives and on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: out of the blue, the Mariners decide it's Colt Emerson's
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  Speaker 1: time now to be on a major league roster. I
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  Speaker 1: just watched him play last Friday. I did not leave
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  Speaker 1: Takoma thinking that guy's ready, that guy is locked in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that guy's got nothing left to prove at the minor
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  Speaker 1: league level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like if you had thought that, you would
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  Speaker 4: have said something on social media or sent a text
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  Speaker 4: or something and said, this guy's ready.
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  Speaker 2: I just watched somebody who's ready to play up there.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly would have started Monday show with yes. And
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  Speaker 1: yet that's not how I felt leaving the ballpark on
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  Speaker 1: Friday night. And yet he gets activated, and we are
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  Speaker 1: under the impression he's getting activated because Brendan Donovan is hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Cold Emerson will play third base, and when Brendan Donovan
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  Speaker 1: comes back, Brendan Donovan will become a utility player like
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  Speaker 1: he thrived in as a Saint Louis Cardinal. But Cold
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  Speaker 1: Emerson's gonna play every day. They are activating him, and
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  Speaker 1: they're not activating him to be a platoon player, that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure. And so we dealt with that news earlier
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  Speaker 1: this week, and now we have this situation in which,
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  Speaker 1: after one day at third base, cold Emerson's suddenly playing
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  Speaker 1: shortstop the next day.
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  Speaker 2: Yep?
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  Speaker 1: Or was it two games? I guess it was two
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  Speaker 1: Sunday and.
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  Speaker 2: Month, Sunday, Monday, Yes, Sunday and month, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden on Tuesday, cold Emerson's playing shortstop.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we're just sure that is man. JP's
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  Speaker 1: been playing every inning, you know, Brendan Donovan, Yeah, Brendan
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  Speaker 1: Donovan's not been available. Leo Revas has had to play
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  Speaker 1: too much. I mean, JP just needs a breather. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's a veteran player. That makes sense. You know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna think too much about that. And then yesterday
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  Speaker 1: cold Emerson's at shortstop again and you're like, what's going on? Well,
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  Speaker 1: long way to get to this point. JP Crawford took
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  Speaker 1: himself off of shortstop. Apparently that JP Crawford says, volunteered.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe self awareness. If he's the better shortstop, let
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  Speaker 1: him have the job. But I want to still play
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  Speaker 1: every day, and third base is open right now, and
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  Speaker 1: I know my contracts expiring, but I can also see
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  Speaker 1: the riding on the wall. I'm not stupid. I know
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  Speaker 1: who your second basement of the future is, been playing
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  Speaker 1: with him every day, and I know who the shortstop
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  Speaker 1: of the future is, and I'm gonna step out of
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  Speaker 1: his way because I'd like to be the third baseman
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  Speaker 1: of the future. I would like to remain a Mariner
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  Speaker 1: beyond this year, and maybe the best way to do
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  Speaker 1: that is to learn a new position that doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to be locked up for the next ten years. And
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  Speaker 1: so that's what JP Crawford did yesterday. Number one threw
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  Speaker 1: his support behind cold Emerson as the better defensive shortstop
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  Speaker 1: right now, and that his clock needs to start right
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  Speaker 1: now as the Mariner's shortstop as they try to win
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  Speaker 1: a World Series this year, and JP is taking ground
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  Speaker 1: balls at third base with Perry Hill to try and
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  Speaker 1: lock down the third base position for this year and beyond.
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  Speaker 1: It's remarkable, Ashley, it is remarkable that someone would have
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  Speaker 1: that self awareness. I mean, this is an ego driven profession.
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  Speaker 1: Like you have to be confident, you have to be cocky,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be damn near arrogant about how good
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  Speaker 1: you are, otherwise you'll get eaten alive. At the professional level,
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  Speaker 1: there's just too much competition. And you could have very
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  Speaker 1: easily been threatened by Colt Emerson this entire year. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe there was a little bit of that. Maybe he
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  Speaker 1: had to have a few conversations with Jerry and Justin
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  Speaker 1: or Dan or whoever he trusts. Maybe he had to
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  Speaker 1: have a few company maybe with his wife, maybe with
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  Speaker 1: his dogs. Maybe fatherhood did it to him. But nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: to arrive on May twentieth at the conclusion of I
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  Speaker 1: know I've lost a step defensively, I still think I
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  Speaker 1: can contribute to this team as a leader and as
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  Speaker 1: a ballplayer. But if there's a better shortstop in the
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  Speaker 1: organization that makes us better, give him my job and
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  Speaker 1: let me fight for another job on this team. And
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  Speaker 1: right now third base is open, and I think I
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  Speaker 1: can play it. Incredible, just incredible, And I hope that
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  Speaker 1: all the other shows make as big a deal out
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  Speaker 1: of this as we're going do today, because that just
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  Speaker 1: says a whole heck of a lot about JP Crawford
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  Speaker 1: and his maturity, his leadership and the person that he is.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, I just it's one of those things you
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  Speaker 1: just don't see in professional sports. You see guys that
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  Speaker 1: fight to the bitter end. You see quarterbacks that have
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  Speaker 1: announced to the world I'm about done, and then a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes moments later, that organization drafts a quarterback and
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  Speaker 1: they're pissed off. How could you do that? You just
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  Speaker 1: told everybody you're thinking about retiring, and now you're threatened
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  Speaker 1: that we'd drafted a quarterback so that we don't have
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  Speaker 1: two three law years after your retirement. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: the world. That's the sports world that I'm used to, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: And here's JP Crawford saying he's the better man for
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  Speaker 1: the job. But I still can play this game, and
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  Speaker 1: I want to be a part of this team, not
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  Speaker 1: as a bench player, as an everyday player and as
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  Speaker 1: a leader. And so give me the chance to win
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  Speaker 1: the third base job before Brendan gets off of the
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  Speaker 1: injury list. Let me prove to you I can do that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: And just one of the things that we'd heard prior
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  Speaker 4: to yesterday was that the Mariners wouldn't think of taking
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  Speaker 4: him out of the lineup or off the field because
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  Speaker 4: he's such a great leader in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this just proves what a great leader he is and.
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  Speaker 4: Beyond because what you could have imagined him being I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have expected this. And for him to have said
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  Speaker 4: I want to be a Mariner for life, this is
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  Speaker 4: the best way to do it, and not just say
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  Speaker 4: I want to play third base and have that conversation
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  Speaker 4: with the organization. He also had his agent call the
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: organization and say, you need to like give him a chance.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: He wants to be here, he wants to play third base.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: He was like, I'm going to do everything. We're attacking
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: this from all angles. I want to do this and
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I hope that he's successful at it, because what a
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: nice for him, more than ever, more than ever, Yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: because what not only what a story for him and
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: this team, but if he's successful, this team's going to
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: be very good.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd said earlier this year, and I mean, because
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I've been critical of JP, and I think that's my job,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: right I've got to tell you how I see it,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and I see it. I saw a declining shortstop over
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the last few years who may have reached the point where, hey,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: we can't have the worst defensive shortstop and still win
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the World Series. You know, that's the conclusion that I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: arrived at. But I've also said right now, he's the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: best man for the job, and that I hope he
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: is the starting shortstop for the Mariners when they're celebrating
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the World Series this year. That's my hope that he
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: shows us you can't take me out of the lineup.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I'm putting the ball in play. I get on base
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a lot, I pop a home run on occasion, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: even though I don't have the range, that's never going
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to get fixed going forward, because people don't get quicker
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the older that they get. I do if I make
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: every single play that's that I can get to. Then
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that value, you know, could trump what a young, inexperience
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: cold Emerson could bring to the table. So I wanted
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: nothing more than to see him be the starting shortstop
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: for our World championship team this year. Absolutely, but I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: also have to evaluate it on its face, and on
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: its face, I just felt Colt Emerson was eventually going
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to overtake him in nearly every aspect, and I think
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: maybe the organization feels he's already done that and that's
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: why he's been activated. But for JP to say it's okay,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I'll find my way. I want to be on this
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: team and I want to be a Mariner for life,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that statement has just Oh yeah, you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: are a Mariner for life. I been here only eleven years.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know the city as well as you do,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: but I know how provincial this place is. I know
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: how much they love the people that love being here.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Felix Hernandez is a legend forever, right because
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: he said I'm not going to go for the highest
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I want to be here. JP just did that yesterday.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: You whatever my future is in baseball, I want it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to be as a Mariner. I want to be a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Mariner for the rest of my career. Pretty impressive, very
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: pretty impressive stuff. So I hope it works out. I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: We're going to do a round of We've never done
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: this before. I'm introducing a little thing today, fairer run
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: fa okay, And and you know what, when you have
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: been as critical as a sports talk show says I've
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: been of a player, and then he does that, You're like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you start to do a little like soul searching. You
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: start doing like this almost like survivor's guilt, Like I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: got what I wanted? How good do I feel about it?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Out there?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And a lot of that's happening here as
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: of late. I got what I wanted out of Emerson
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Hancock stand in the rotation, and then we had piggyback Gate,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, how good do I feel about I'm
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: starting to get everything I wanted on this talk show,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and yet I'm starting to wonder have I been fair
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: or unfair? Is Dan gonna get fired because I've been
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: critical of him? And how am I going to feel
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: about that? So we're gonna do that a little bit
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: later on in the show. But man, JP Crawford should
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: have won you over a little bit more yesterday, because
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: he certainly did me. All right, let's find out what's
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: on tap for the rest of the show, coming on,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Chuck and by what's on TEP, what's on Tech Mariners
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: morning after coming up at six thirty. They won yesterday
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: with a White Sox five to four. They take two
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: out of three in a very weird series. So they'll
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: be at Kansas City starting tomorrow night. Matt Brash returned,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and you looked fantastic. Also, Piggyback will be piggyback next
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: time through the rotation. They're gonna do it at least
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: one more time and perhaps iron out the wrinkles. We'll
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: discuss that today. NBA Playoffs, the Oklahoma City Thunder went
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: over the San Antonio Spurs last night one twenty two
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to one thirteen. I kind of expected the Thunder to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: win by thirty. I just thought the Spurs came in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and did what they needed to get done and exhausted
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: every effort to get that done. In Game number one
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: felt to me like the Spurs had accomplished what they
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: set out to achieve. I expected them to get boat
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: raced last night that did not happen, but OKC was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the better team last night anyway, So that series is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: even at one game apiece to the Eastern Conference Finals
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: tonight at five o'clock. The Knicks up on the Cavaliers
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: one game to none. Stanley Cup Western Conference Finals got
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: underway last night with Vegas winning over Colorado four to two.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: The Avalanche had all that time off and couldn't get
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Cale mccarr healthy for game number one. I think he's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: vital Las Vegas. We continue to just not respect how
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: great Las Vegas is and they won four to two
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: over Colorado last night. Caroline has not played in eleven days,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: so they're going to knock off the Rust and start
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals tonight against Montreal at five o'clock.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers says, this is it, magno mistake you, well,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: this is it. He is going to play his final
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: season as a professional football player this year for the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, So we'll find some time to talk about
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that later in the show as well. They're coming up next.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: It's Mariners Morning After on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: three KHRFM. You know something, we just get together and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: grab beer and just make fun of the Jonas Brothers.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: We do it all the time as men, and so
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: that's about as far as a role they've played in
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: my life. But I'm gonna give him credit. That might
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: be my favorite podcast promo that was actually funny.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a good one. And it's not one
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: of those ones that you're somebody's saying something.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Really annoying or dumb or.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, this is such a something for my eyes,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: like whatever.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: That kid did not say that. There's no way your
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: kid speaks like that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Also, if you keep running it, I'm sure I will
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: get tired and sick of it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or sick. Yeah, tired and sick.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You're right right right, So yeah, but not bad, not bad.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Good job Jonas Brothers. You can make a decent promo.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the ABC's of the MS.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: The M's winning over the White Sox yesterday five to four.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Had to hold on. Everything's got to be difficult for
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the Mariners, so they get the job done. They take
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: two out of three. They survive Piggyback Gate Round one
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and now travel to Kansas City to take on the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Royals starting to tomorrow night. So a day off today
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and every day we have the ABC's of the ms.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: We don't even have Mariners morning after every day because
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that's after every game tomorrow, yeah, exactly, but we do
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: have ABC's of the ms every single day. We allowed
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the alphabet to be a guide through a Mariner's segment.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: We left off yesterday at the letter Jay, and Jay
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: is for Johnny. Who's Johnny? She said, and smiled in
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: her special way.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know that, oh, I do love Okay.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Johnny Parreeda hits a home run, his first home run yesterday,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and although it was his first career home run, he's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: not exactly a young man. So this is a long
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: time coming for Johnny Parada and you think he might
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: be jaded at this stage in his career to have
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: waited this long for this opportunity, but he seems like
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the happiest guy in the ballpark. And Ryan Healy even
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: commented Tuesday about the affect of Johnny Parada and how
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: he loves his energy and there's something about him that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: really worked for Ryan Healy and I think we've kind
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of picked up on it as well. And then yesterday
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: he's been ending the ball hard. He just has had
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of bad luck and then yesterday to get
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the big home run and that was the biggest hit
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of the game that relaxed everybody. A Rose Arena ended
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: up providing the difference in the game. But Johnny Pareda
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: put us back up, and I like the way he's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: receiving right now. He's not very quick, he's not sudden,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: he doesn't move with haste. But I, Ashley, am I crazy.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to be. I don't want
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: another round of dumping on Mitch Garver. But I think
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: when Cal comes back, I'm leaning toward Johnny Pareda staying
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: on the team.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I would agree, And I don't think that's a dump
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: on Mitch Garver. I think that's just a compliment to
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Johnny Parada. I mean, the pitchers have a great rapport
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: with Garver.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, that we know, but it's hey seemed to already
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: have it with Yes, but it seems like they also
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: have it with Parada.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: And if we're going to get more of an offensive
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: power from Parada than from Garver.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, it might not stick.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Actually you wouldn't. I mean, yeah, Mitch Garver has hit
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of home runs in Major League Baseball. He's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a power hitter. We just have to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: seen it a lot. I don't think Johnny Parada can
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: match Mitch Garver's power, But what you might see is
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: somebody that just makes a lot more contact than what
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Mitch Garver would because Mitch Garver, as Bucky's pointed out,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: his approach is he's trying to get a walk when
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: he goes to the plate, and so he takes a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: lot of pitches. He strikes out a lot and where
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I and he walks some. Not that that does you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of good when you need three HiT's to
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: get you in. But Johnny Parada probably will put the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: ball in play more often. He certainly is making more
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: consistent hard contact than what we've ever seen Mitch Garver
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: make in his short time here.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I do like that. Yeah, And people do
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: People do like that. Yes, And this segment is brought
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to you by Sunset Autumn. All right, let's go to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: kay k Is for Kitchen, and man, we have seen
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: some remodeling done with this roster. They are remodeling the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: kitchen fifty games into the year, and they've already made
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: some really significant decision on what they believe they want
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to go forward with for the last one hundred and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: ten games of this year, and it's been pretty fascinating
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to watch already to this point. I mean, cold Emerson's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: now our shortstop, thanks in part to JP, who will
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: talk about more at eight o'clock. JP Crawford might be
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: our third baseman going forward. Brendan Donovan now might be
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: back in his special super utility role that he thrived
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: in as a Saint Louis Cardinal. We're going to have
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a decision here in the next couple of days. When
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Victor Roeblaze gets activated. I'm assuming that it's Connor Joe,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: but with Brennan Davis crushing the ball into Koma, he
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: just hit like a four hundred and forty foot home
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: run over the eye the batter's eye yesterday. I mean,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: could you do a full sweep there. I know they're
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: gonna have more patience for Rob Refschneider, but there does
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: come a limit. I mean, we're we're still at short
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: sample with ref Schneider at this stage as a Mariner,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: but it's getting longer and he doesn't seem to evoke
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: much confidence, doesn't seem like it and he's already expressed
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: how he's really battling himself mentally, and he didn't exactly
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: get on a roll after admitting that. So I don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see changes there as well. That
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the two right handed compliments to can Zone and Rayleigh
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a week from now, two weeks from now, do you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: just pull the band aid? And is it? I mean,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Roblaze is all almost back, he's ready to come back.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: He's replacing somebody, right and then Brennan Davis, who they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: have some contractual obligations to put on the forty man roster.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Now he's on the forty man roster right now. You
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: might have to make room for him as well, So
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: we might see some big changes.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: There, and I think that would be warranted. I mean,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I know that I'm not the only one who groaned
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: when we saw ref Sneider leading off in the in
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the lineup on Tuesday.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And I don't know where there is really a place.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: For him in that lineup right now with the way
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: that he's batting, because there's no place for him that
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: I'm that is exuding any confidence.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Well in me, he has a recent history and not
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: just one year, but several years crushing left handers. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like everybody who's been acquired to do that job for
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: us and the Jerry Depoto era, he's not only not
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: getting the job done, he's falling well short. It's and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so I think they're going to give him an extended look.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: They don't want to admit that they made a mistake,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that they picked another guy that apparently has hit a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: career wall. But this year, unlike past years, you might
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have a better option staring you're right in the face
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and Brennan Davis and so how much longer do you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: give ref Sneider hitting ninety eight against lefties and Brennan
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Davis hitting four hundred and forty foot home runs over
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the batter's eye in center field. When you've got that
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: competing with what you're living with on a daily basis,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it does change the scenario.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to win a world series.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to win a world series. And again,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: we're kitchen remodeling this roster on the fly, and we
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: might be let's say two to four weeks, we might
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be looking at a somewhat remodeled kitchen, and that might
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: be the group we're going with and then until the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: trading deadline. Then you can add something else and even
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: our pitching staff, I mean, Gilbert Kirby, wu Miller, Hancock.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Miller will continue to be a
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: handcuff to Castillo. Something tells me that's not going to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: be the case. I think Miller's going to I think
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we're gonna realize Miller is one of our best three
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers. Yeah, so is it next Maybe next turn
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: through the rotation. It's gonna be hard to watch Miller
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: pitch the way he did and then put him in
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the bullpen because it's Castillo's turn to start. No way,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: but that's the plan right now. Maybe they change their mind, Yeah, Hancock,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's Hancock in Castillo next time through the rotation.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And as Anders pointed out, the guy that's having the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: most trouble after the fifth inning on the entire team
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: is Gilbert.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I was thinking that, Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And that doesn't We're not gonna risk Gilbert's starting pitching
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: status in this rotation, but we might acknowledge, dude, you've
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: only been good for five innings at a time. You
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: might be the perfect guy to Piggy.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we put Castillo in for six and seven.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's a big change, and that might
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: settle itself here in the next few weeks. Now we
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: got Brashed back, so if we can get Spire back,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, the bullpen would be pretty much set in
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Munno's fer Air Brash, Chriswell, Spire and Bizardo.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Oh it sounds so good to say those names.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Better out there, it does. And the kitchen remodeling of
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the roster is nearly complete. Finally, and I do want
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to get this in l is for last. They probably
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: are statistics. I haven't looked them up, but I am sure.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I am sure. We are dead last in challenging.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the worst.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, we are terrible at this.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: When Naylor Challenged lost the first challenge yesterday, well not
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: only was it a terrible time to challenge, but it
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: was a terrible call to challenge, a terrible pitch to challenge.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: We are supposed to use this challenge system to help us,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and I'm not watching every team in Major League Baseball
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: as closely as I'm watching the Mariners, but it's hurting
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the team. The new challenge system has made us less effective. Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and winning baseball games because we're so bad at it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: We challenge at the wrong times. We're not good at
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: challenging it, like we're wrong more often than the umpires are.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: There was and I'm gonna lay some of it on
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Dan too, because there was a play two nights ago
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that nobody talked about where it looked very much like
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Chase my Draft was off the bag and we had
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the bases loaded in that inning, and nobody challenged it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Nobody even took the time to hold you know, the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: old Dan Wilson hold up. I want to look at it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody even did that, and it looked to me like
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: he was off the bag and we should have had
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: bases loaded and nobody out in that situation, and imagine
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: how much the game changes. Maybe you do get your
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: three run lead for Luis Castillo, and we could have
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: avoided all of that nonsense on Tuesday night. But we're
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: so bad at challenging. We're terrible at it well.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: And I think there was even a pitch late in
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the game that was called a ball that was a
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: strike that we didn't challenge that would have made a
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: big difference in the game.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, we're not good, not good at all.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: And I would have thought, honestly, given how smart Naylor is,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: that he would not be making some bad challenges. But
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: this is that I can think of, just off the
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: top of my head. That is yet that was his
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: second terrible challenge.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of just challenging the umpire. When we
• 34:24
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• 34:30
  Speaker 1: should be challenged outside of ABS. I don't have a
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: statistic to back this up, but I'm pretty short. When
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: it comes to challenging in Major League Baseball. We're the worst.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: We are dead last.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I would not be surprised, all right.
• 34:45
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• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and welcome in. Ashley and I are back together. So
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: she filled in with Greg Belb the last couple of days.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So great to have Ashley back. And we should have
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: some news on Bucky I think this week as well.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Hopefully for those that have been inquiring consistently and repeatedly.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Every day, we get where's Bucky Ben.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: He's been on medical leave, but we will find out
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  Speaker 1: some information on that front. It sounds like here in
• 35:55
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• 35:58
  Speaker 1: know as soon as possible. I can promise see that. Also,
• 36:01
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• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the last couple of days. And man, they had a ball.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, probably I picture it that when you
• 36:19
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• 36:22
  Speaker 4: for you and they're like, here's your here's your one sheets,
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  Speaker 1: It was so cute that they were trying not to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: be starstruck, you know, that whole thing. So they pretty
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: much just ignored me and didn't do anything for me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: So they were trying to make it seem like this
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: isn't a big deal. Meanwhile, they were peeing themselves, right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It was just cute because obviously it was the opposite
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: of having my coffee ready for me, And I thought
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it was cute that little game they were playing because
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to look like they were over excited.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't have coffee ready for you every
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: morning too.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. So anyway, and then didn't ask to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: take a photo with me or I autograph or anything.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Did they look you in the eyes though?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: A little bit? Oh a little bit.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: That's surprising, yeah, longingly. Oh okay, well that makes more sense.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they'll be back to their normal humdrum existences now,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: poor guys, and Ashley and I continue the morning show.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: So boring old life for them.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad, you know, I'm glad I could make
• 37:24
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• 37:27
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• 37:29
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  Speaker 1: great topic. This is a great sports radio that we
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: have been blessed with here this morning. I mean, it's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: been a hell of a week talking about Mariners baseball
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: this week. You want to talk about some juicy sports
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: discussions to have at the sports bar, or with your
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: buddies in the backyard, or you know, with your wife,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you know, sitting at the dinner table. This is our husband,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: this is This has been a heck of a week,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and it timed out really well because this is like
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the first week we haven't had football stuff to discuss
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: all calendar year, and yet we get Colt Emerson this
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: week getting the call up out of nowhere. We get
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the piggyback situation which took up an entire broadcast day
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: for US yesterday, and now we get this JP Crawford story,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and so not only is it good, not only is
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it juicy, not only does it have many tributaries that
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: flow from it, it's also kind of good for the heart,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: kind of good for the soul. I thought, I mean,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: we just don't see this happen a lot, but JP
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: just to kind of quickly recap it, I mean, talked
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a lot about cold Emerson and when he's going to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: be called up this season, all the way back to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: spring training, and that's on the Mariners because Justin and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Jerry told us that cold Emerson had a chance to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: leave camp as an everyday player. Yeah, they didn't quite
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: see enough, but we knew based off of the Cole
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Young experience from the previous year where the exact same script,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we knew that there was a chance he's going to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: be called up pretty early in the year. He wasn't
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: killing it Intocoma at the plate, but he was defensively.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: And JP's game has slid, especially on the defensive side.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: He in terms of defensive metrics pretty much ranks last
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: amongst starting shortstops in all of Major League Baseball, and
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: so there's been a lot of conversation about is it
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: time for cold Emerson to take over at shortstop for
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners for defensive reasons, if nothing else, the
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: most important position on the field defensively, with the exception
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: of pitcher, And so is it time to do that?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And I have been very critical of JP Crawford this season,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and I have told you many times that I believe
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there will be a moment this year where I'm going
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to come on the air and say it's time. I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: hadn't reached that point yet. As a matter of fact,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I just saw cold Emerson play in Tacoma Friday, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I did not drive home thinking that dude's gotta be
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: on the roster tomorrow.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It is a crime that he's into Koma, right And
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: yet two.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Days later he was on the roster, and we thought
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: for sure it's because Brendan Donovan's going on the il
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: probably for more than ten days. We need a third baseman.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Leo Revas has been struggling, so cold Emerson, even if
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: he's not quite ready, he's close enough to being ready
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that he'll be the third baseman. See how he plays.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And then when Donovan returns we'll have another piggyback situation.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: We'll have a more piggybacks the better.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: We'll have three guys for two positions, and we'll make
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: a decision on how to progress from there. Well, the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: next day, Tuesday, JP Crawford's not in the lineup, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: we just thought, well, yeah, the veteran needs the day off.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Cold Emerson can play shortstop. This is one of the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: advantages he gives you by being up here because Donovan
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: can't play shortstop. So yeah, he just needs a day off.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Because the Mariners have told us over and over and
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: over that JP's our guy. He's gonna play shortstop for
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season. You know, we're we're gonna
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: live and die with JP Crawford at shortstop.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Well, and he got hit, Yeah, he got hit in
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the arm two So you're like, yeah, I could understand, Yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: give him a break, that's true.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Dude got hitting their arm, Well, hit in their arm
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: one day and then in the back near the arm.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah the next day. And then the very next day
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: comes and cold Emerson's playing shortstop again. Yeah, And they're
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: like okay, now, oh what's going on. And we find
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: out it's JP who went to management JP and his
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: agent and told management, let the kid take over shortstop,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: give me a shot to be the starting third baseman,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and let's see how that goes. Here's JP after the game.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: You know, I just I want to be a Mariner
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: for life, and I think that's the best way to
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: do it. And you know, just always being open to
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: helping the team.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Winky Di.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: The young guys talk about you and just everything that
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you've done for them. What does it mean to you
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to be that person for them?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it means everything.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: When I came up, I really didn't have anyone to
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: show me the ropes until I got over here and
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: uh Dee Gordon and Kyle Seeger took me on uner
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: their wing. And you know, I made a promise to
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: myself to you know, be like them. I'm gonna go
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: here's the Winner Wars series and stay here as long
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: as I can. And that's only two things on my mind.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford after the game yesterday. This is remarkable, I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: mean incredible actually, and I've already spent some time discussing
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: this this morning, but certainly there's more to discuss from
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: this standpoint. I mean, we are in an era where
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: it is really hard, and I understand why. I mean,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it's hard for a person that's put on a little
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: weight to realize maybe I can't pull that shirt off anymore.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: It's hard for you. You've seen plenty of men who've
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: aged and yet still think that they can hit on
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the twenty three year old at the bar, you know.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you can't pull that off, Bud,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: but to kind of think you can maybe come to you, Yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to go into it thinking that that's still you. I mean,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that can't look in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the mirror and see that things have changed. Certainly in
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: our professional world. We have quarterbacks all the time that
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that threatened that they're ready to retire, and then the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: moment the organization takes them at their word and drafts
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a young quarterback so that they don't have to have
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a lag between you know, good quarterbacks for two three
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: years and they draft a quarterback. Then all of a sudden,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the players furious that you've drafted a quarterback. That's the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: sports world I thought we were living in. The guys
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell they weren't quite as good as they used
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: to be. Their pride got in the way. And yet
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: here's JP Crawford being criticized on social media, on sports
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: talk radio, certainly by me, and having a twenty year
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: old kid that the organization's already given a nine year
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: contract to without having seen a single Major league pitch.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, writing was on the wall that cold Emerson's
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: going to take over for him next year, and here's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford getting out ahead of it and saying, being
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: self aware, I'm not the shortstop that I used to be
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: be I don't have the same range. I still think
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I can contribute mightily to this baseball team, and not
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: just as a leader. I'll play third base. Let the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: better shortstop play short stop. I'll learn the new position.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I think I can do it. I got the best
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: infield coach in baseball helping me. It's not I mean,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Alex Rodriguez went from short to third in the middle
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: of the season. Cal Ripkin went from short to third
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. I mean, it's not
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: that entirely different of a skill set, but it's still
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a self sacrifice like that. I mean, it's not Alex
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez went to third because Derek Jeter played short and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: he didn't have a choice, so cal Ripkin went to third.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Because the Orioles were like, you're one hundred years old
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and you've played every single day for your entire life,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and we've got to start thinking about your future as
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: a third baseman. And because his reign should been tested
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: because of age. This is JP the front office saying
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the job is yours and him having the self awareness
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: like that guy plays shortstop better than I do right now.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: If that's the case, let him play shortstop, Let me
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: move to third. All I want to do is be
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a as big a contributor to this baseball team this year,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: trying to win a World Series. And however I can help,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: whether it's as a leader, or as a player or
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: as a defender, I want to make the sacrifice necessary
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: to make us a better baseball team. It's awesome, It's
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: for a freshing It was unexpected, very and it does
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: speak to why his character and why all those players
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: love him so much, and why the organization kept saying
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: how valuable he is.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they said, we're not moving him off this lineup.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: We're not taking him off this team. He is too
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: much of a leader, and you know, we don't see
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: so much of what happened because we only see what
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: we get to see on TV broadcasts and occasionally hear
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: from people who are in the dugout or in the clubhouse,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: you know, before and after games. And for him to
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: have come out and said that not only said, you know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: he didn't It's not like he came to the media
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: and said like, well, I'd play third base. I mean no,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: he went to the organization and said I want to
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: play a third base, and then went and told his agent,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: I want to play a third base, so they would
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: also contact the Mariners, so he had somebody else backing
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: him up so that they knew how how serious he
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: was about it and about helping this team, and him
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: saying I want to be a Mariner for life. I
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: mean we said it earlier. If what he's done hasn't
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: made you, hasn't made your respect for him grow, I mean,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: then there's nothing anybody, any athlete can do to increase
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: their respect, your respect, because that it's selfless and it's
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: the ultimate teammate and he's trying to do whatever he
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: can to help the team.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if there was any pressure applied
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to him. I don't know if Justin and Jerry went
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: to him and said, hey, this is what we like
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: to do, and and then that led him to coming
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: to grips with it. Maybe probably maybe I had to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: talk with his wife. Maybe he and Cal you know,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: went to Vaughan's and Woodenville and had a conversation, and
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: so maybe he needed time, or maybe he came across
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it on his own. We don't know. We'll probably never
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: know that. Uh, But to make that kind of sacrifice
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: mid season, I think it's kind of unheard of. Yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and he used some magic words in there. I want
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to be a Mariner for life. You just became a
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Mariner for life saying that, because even if you do
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: play for another team, I've got to know this city.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Got to love this city, and all fan bases are
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. And the one thing about this
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: city that I've noticed is, man, when you pledge yourself
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to Seattle, like Kevin Durant, Felix her Nandez, you can
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: play for another team, you're one of us.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: And JP Crawford pledged himself. He might not be here
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: next year. He's certainly not going to be our shortstop
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: next year. He might find his way back to shortstop
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: this season, but he's he's not going to be our
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: shortstop next year, and he'll have to play for a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: lot less money next season. If he's going to come
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: back to this baseball team, and I don't even think
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: he'll be our third baseman, it's probably going to have
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to be a different role. But for him to say,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: whatever I've got left to give this game, I want
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to give it to this team and these teammates. You
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: just won this city over men.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And and you know there are people
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: who are saying, well, how how can he go from
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: how can he play third base? He can't make the
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: throw from short to first. I mean, I think he
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: can make the throw from third to first. I think
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the problem was, yes, his movement and how quick he
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: had to be at shortstop. He just doesn't have that
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: quickness anymore.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Well, he's still got to be quick, and he caught
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the hot corner for a reason, but you don't have
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: to cover as much range. And you know, I don't know,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you gotta have a hose for
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: third base too. Manny Machado does some wizardry like stuff
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: over there, throwing things underhanded. Certainly, we've seen third baseman
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: whose arm strength started to waiver and they were able
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to pull it off. But I think it's a good point.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a foregone conclusion he can go
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: over to third base.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that he wants to try.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: But the fact that he's willing to make the sacrifice,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, because you're because he's not assuring himself by
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: that very question that that person's asking, which I think
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: is fair. He's not assuring himself regular playing time by
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: doing this. If he can't play third base. Brendan Donovan comes,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: they just opened He just opened up the door for
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: cold Emerson, and I think the organization wants cold Emerson
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: at shortstop. It was out of respect to JP. It
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: was out of respect to his respect that he commands
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in the locker room that they were going to keep
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: him at shortstop through thicker thin, But when he opened
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the door, I think the Mariners got to do what
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: they really think is best for the organization. Colt's a
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: better defensive player at shortstop than JP is right now,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and I don't think JP's lighting it up offensively. I
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: know people keep pointing out his on base percentage, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: that he's popping home runs. I think he's worse when
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: he's trying to hit home runs. Frankly, I need to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: see a better batting average. I need to see more
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: doubles because the guy that walks a lot, who doesn't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: run that well is not that great of an advantage
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: for the offense. So I'd like to see him just
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: put more balls in play. Pepper the ball the other way,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: thinks of that nature. And I don't know if he
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: can play third base, but the fact that he's willing
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: to try it for the good of the team and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: give up a spot that apparently the Mariners have handed
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to him it was his yes until the end of
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the year, just a remarkable gesture. I hope that it's
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. I'm going to live in a
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: world where that's one hundred percent true. And there wasn't
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: any interference ran because all of a sudden, as critical
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: as I've been of JP, and at times cross the
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: line probably into being unfair towards JP, trying to be funny,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: trying to get a laugh, probably crossed a line or
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: two in my presentation. But now I almost have like this,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I got what I wanted, but I almost have like
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: this guilt about it, like survivor's guilt, like, ah, he
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: really is an awesome teammate.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he really is.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so now suddenly I find myself rooting for
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: JP to work at third and Brendan Donovan comes back.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Let's get him back on that super utility role that
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: he thrived in in Saint Louis, and everything will be better.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: So then the sun will come out and roses will
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: bloom and birds will chirp, and everyone will start hitting.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, everyone, because the summer is almost here and we're
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a summer team.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: We're not a spring team. Spring is for losers.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Spring is for non mariners.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I want to mention it as one other thing before
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: we go to the break, and then SUP is coming
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: up next. So if you want to get your text
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: questions in at four nine, four five to one, we'll
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: we'll hear from you. We'll answer any questions that you
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: have about this or anything else. But I do want
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: to offer a little bit of a warning. Like I said,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I did not leave Tacoma Friday night thinking cold Emerson
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: looked ready. I think he's going to struggle for a while.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Certainly at the plate. I think he has this matureness
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: about his maturity about him that it won't interfere with
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: his defense. And if we get an upgraded defensive shortstop,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I think that is in itself very valuable and worth
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: this move. But I have a feeling he's going to
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: struggle a little bit. Almost every twenty year old does
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: adjusting to me league pitching on a nightly basis. They
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: got the scouting report on him, and they're going to
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: attack him with fury, So don't run out of patience
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: with him. I mean, there's a chance JP might have
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to go back to short stuff because Colt just can't
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: hit at the major league level just yet. They have
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: every faith that he's going to But this isn't going
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: to be cold Emerson takes the league by storm. I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: don't think he's there yet, So I don't want to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: hear a week from now O this guy can't even it.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: He sucks you to call him up, cut him back down.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Now that JP's open, Now that the door's been opened
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: by the front office, and now JP's opened it further.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, Cold Emerson's in our lives for a while,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and he's probably going to scuffle at a couple of
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: things about the game, and we're going to have to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: live with that over the course of time for the
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: betterment of this team this year and certainly beyond. So
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: just offering a little bit of warning, have a little
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: more patience with cold Emerson. He's twenty years old, just
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: got his pubes. It's going to take a little while
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: before this guy really does become the player they know
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: he can be as a twenty year old. We know
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get better as a twenty five year old beyond,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: but even as a twenty year old, they believe he's
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: going to be a significant contributor this year and a
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: starting shortstop worthy of starting shortstop on a World Series team.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: That's their belief right now. But he's not going to
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: look like that for a while. There's gonna be some hiccups,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and probably on the offensive side of the baseball. So
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: just keep it in mind, all right, sup, is next
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: four nine four five one, or we'll field your questions
• 55:32
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• 55:35
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• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Ashley or myself. Sup. Ashley, what's going on with Anders
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: and Travis idolizing Chuck.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: We're probably gonna get a lot of those.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Is a great question today for Sup on Sports Radio
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• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Can you start a move in to get a standing
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: O for JP next home?
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Ab Ah, I don't think I could get that going.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I might be able to get four of
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: you to do it, but you're gonna need something a
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: little more powerful than me. But I have a feeling
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: he's going to get one anyway. I mean Mariner fans
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: are today's baseball fan is very aware, more so than ever.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And I think that's social media, that is phones, having phone,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: more phones than social media, having our phones with us.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I think everybody's going to be aware of it. I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: think everybody's going to be moved by the gesture. And
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: even though we play on the road, I don't think
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: people are going to forget it. I think when he
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: comes back home, I think that they'll just do it,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: do it naturally. I think Marinder fans are very astute,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: very well aware. You included Nacho Hull, and I think
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you get what's up. And I think JP will get
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: a really warm reception his next at bat at T Mobile.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think he will too. I think he
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: will too. People.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: It's such a great gesture.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Just overall.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I think Royals fans should give him a standing.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would love it. Don't think it's gonna happen,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: but I would love it. U up, Chuck? How what
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: is it? Where was it?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is actually what's up? Chuck? From the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: four two five?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: What's up with Ashley always adding to her need to
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: watch movie list but never actually watching any Oh?
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely great call, great observation.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: What is with that?
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: It's a great question. I think here's I will tell
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: you this.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: This summer.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna get to watch a lot of
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: movies because I have been I haven't even been home
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: for the last two months on most weekends, and that's
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: primetime movie time.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I have been on the last couple of weekends.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying the last months.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: It is life.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: It is a lifetime of failure. I'm trying to make
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: up for it. And you know, sometimes you feel like, Okay,
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: I've got this, I've got to accomplish this stuff, and
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: then I feel a little overwhelmed and I don't know
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: where to start. So I thought last week or two
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: weekends ago when we were in Lacey, we were like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: let's watch a movie. We started with a new one.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: It was terrible. I think I told you that, And
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: then I thought, why did we bother watching a new movie?
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: I should have made five iron pick an old movie
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: he likes that I haven't seen.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: See. I might tell you something that I picked up
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: during COVID because I left two years in quarantine and
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: there was a there was a in order for me
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: to stay sane. Unicorn seemed to thrive in it because
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: she's evil. Uh. For me to remain sane in trying
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: to help protect her, I had to create these little things.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: During the course of the week. I had something almost
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: every night that we would do a different sort of
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: and it usually revolved around the television, because that's what, right,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: you know, what we do. We do the Martini Night
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: on Fridays, and so that revolved around music. But even that,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: we'll put a show on in the background and just
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: you know, a game or something like that in the background.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: So I, you know, I would do these like certain
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: evenings that I would set aside and then you would
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: pay off and then you ended up looking forward to
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: it and you involve a food and you involve a
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: drink in that evening as well, but the activity. So
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's what you would do. You just call
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it Chuck movie theater. And then it's for the entire
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: five Iron family, Mister and missus five Iron, little five Iron,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: all of you, all of you as a group, look
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: forward to it, and then add something. Don't just look
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: forward to the movie. Add some sort of food and drink.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Combination to make it an event.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Make it an event. And then I'll give you a list,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: and just do it for a month, like every Tuesday,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: for example. Maybe not Tuesday because that's base it's baseball seat.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursdays, Yeah, Thursdays are probably more likely.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: And I'll give you four movies that I think you
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: should absolutely check off your list. Do it for a month, okay,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and then give that a try. Maybe you'll look forward
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: to it, and maybe you'll keep wanting to do it.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Not just you, but you're an entire fans, Okay, but
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: can we You'll be so excited about you'll want to
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: add to your.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Fa It might not, I will say this, It might
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: not always be definitely not, might not be the same
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: day of the week because that's hard to do.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: But my only request is could you make sure there.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Are no three hour or longer movies on the list
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: to start, because that's straightway to get me to not
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: want to continue.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: It all right?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: To start, Yeah, I'm saying just to start, because if
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: I have to start with three hour movies, I'm done already.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: You don't watch god Father, Godfather too before you passed
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: from this earth.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: You will should have done that after my appendectomy, when
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: I had nothing to do.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: You will have failed it living. I don't want to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: overstate it, but you will have had a wasted life.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree what else we got?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Let's see, Well you brought up the five Iron parts
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: up Ashley. How did your husband get the nickname five Iron? Well,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: that's easy because his name's Mark, and we had another
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: Mark working at the station, and I didn't want people
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: thinking that. I ended up saying like my Mark all
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: the time, which didn't sound great.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: So then I would have loved if people would have
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: ran with it. I can't believe Ashley and Mark James
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: are married.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no wonder Ashley drinks so much wine. So yeah,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: so then we came up with a nickname Chuck. Came
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: up with the nickname five Iron because he is a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: huge golfer.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, that's it and it fits.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: It's like it worked immediately. It like scored really well
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: right off the bat.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: We took it to all the testing, right yeah, and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: it did really well.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bucky liked it, Ashley liked it, and I liked it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And then all of our little samples, all of our
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: testing audiences.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them, all of them. So chuck. Oh gosh,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: this updates and then I lose things.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Oh why are the Seattle Mariners fans so sentimental and emotional?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Why do they put good vibes over winning?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think that they put good vibes over winning.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: They just enjoyed.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think they do either. I think it's the.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: They just like the addition of the good vibes.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I see, this is what's under estimated about this fan base.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I think that that there's such a high priority put
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: on winning. I mean, I get it, there are everybody
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: gets so wrapped up with all the babble. They got
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: a really good pr staff over there that for years
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: has put together a really good, interesting promotion. Okay, don't
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: get angry. With them because they put up great promotions
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: that people want to have that merchandise. But yeah, there
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: are some people that just want to go to the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: baseball game. But I think there are a whole lot
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: more that are demanding, at least in their vocalization, that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: this team be good. I mean, you've had a really
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: good baseball team, not a great one, but I think
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: we're I think the Mariners are one of only three
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: teams that have posted winning records five years in a row.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: They've had two playoff teams, and much of the fan base,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say most much of the fan base
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: is furious with Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander were not
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: doing more. So I don't know. I mean, I know
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: that there's a percentage of it that are a little
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: bit Cleveland Brownie, like we'll buy anything yourself no matter what. Yeah,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't support that. I've never supported that. I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: think you do have to kind of hold your organization's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: feet to the fire. But there's I think there's a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: significant part of the fan base that is unfairly critical
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: of the current regime that has been delivering you at
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: least a contending product, even though we haven't gotten over
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the finish line, So I don't know. I think I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: think the fan base is a little more demanding than
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: what it gives it's given credit for.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: I would agree with that, And I also think as
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: far as the emotional sentimental thing, it's like what we're
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: talking about with JP. If you say you're one of us,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: we're connected to you because we are in this corner
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: of the country that gets or used to get at
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: least it doesn't as much used to get ignored a lot,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: and so if someone chose to be here or stuck
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: up for Seattle, it was like, yeah, we're we're all
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: in this together, and so you know, we just have
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: a different connection with the players.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I think you want. By the way, here's another underestimated thing.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I think you want those fans there because if those
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: fans there that are just fiercely loyal don't go, that's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: less money and that's another reason not to spend money
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: on the roster.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: But there's also a percentage of this fan base that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: no matter what they do, they're gonna blame them for
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: not spending enough money. Like what problems we have this
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: year is not because the front office. John Stanton didn't
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: sign enough big time free agents. Big time free agents
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: aren't exactly succeeding these days in Major League Baseball at
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: a good percentage clip. No, you want me to go
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: through the list, I will no, thank you, no.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, we're going to finish this with this one.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: We have one that's going to take longer. We're gonna
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: get We're gonna use it for one last thing. But
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: this one is sub Ashley does are the great play golf?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Yet? Have you thought that? If and when she does?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: Giving her the nickname of little Pitching Wedge's great.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: That's her nickname. There you go. She does play golf, Yes.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: A little pitch wedge p dub p dub. Well yeah,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I could see that on her golf bag.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, little p dub.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, little pitching wedge, little pitching wedge.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I like it. But yes, she
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: does play golf.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: And then, as I said, there's one that's going to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: take longer, I'm going to use it as my one
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: last thing.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: We'll come back to that one.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, well done. Tomorrow, we'll do sup with you.
• 1:05:39
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  Speaker 2: That was the micro fun Yeah, exactly.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to follow up Chris Rock on the stage.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, Mike Ben.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: No, he's funny.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: All right, we are delaying the inevitable. I have to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: face myself and my demons here today.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford gave me a lot to think about his
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: selflessness his self awareness, which I think are just two
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: tremendous qualities in a human being. Try to I try
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: to carry those with me. But I'm also a talk
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: show host, which means that I have to occasionally be mean,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: and I have a choice.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: In the mass.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Occasionally I gotta do it, and so I do always,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: though Ashley, try to be fair with my criticisms. But
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: let's face it, this Mariner team is completely frustrating. Every
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: single year. We have to start slowly every single year,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: and I always hear, well, that's baseball for you. No, no, no,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: baseball is a series of ups and downs. You're not
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: gonna stay hot for one hundred and sixty two games,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: and you're not gonna stay cold for one hundred and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: sixty two games unless you're the twenty twenty three White Sox.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: But yes, we live with ah Man. We're catching. We
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: can't catch a break, it feels like for a week
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: at a time, and then it seems like you catch
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: every break for a week at a time. Yes, I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: understand baseball. It's not always going to be easy. You're
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: going to have some pitfalls, you're going to have injuries,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: you're going to have some poor performances. But there's nowhere
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: written in the baseball annals, by either humans or the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: baseball gods, that a team has to start every season
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: cold and then dig out of a hole for the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: rest of the year. Where's that written.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I've never seen it. Yeah,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: And yeah, the frustrations do take over sometimes, So as
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: much as you know, try to be level headed and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: only fair.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: We're humans. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and sometimes we're pissed, sometimes
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: we're angry. And then sometimes our anger unleashes itself by
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: going a little too far. Potentially, I'm not saying it did, yeah,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: but potentially we're going to judge it with our criticisms
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: of the team. But I do try to keep things
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: all in proper perspective at all times. But JP was
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: just what he did yesterday was just like, Okay, I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: start feeling bad, like I'm getting everything I want from
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: this front office and I don't have any conversations with
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: these guys personally, Like some of you seem to think
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: that I have.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: People think that you've just got Jerry on sweet down,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: But I have the things that I've put out there
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: on the show have kind of are all coming true.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I wanted Emerson to stay in the starting rotation. He's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: staying in the starting rotation. And I'm not saying I'm
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the only one. I'm not giving myself credit. I'm just
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: telling you that I'm having kind of not buyer's remorse,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: almost survivor's guilt, like, oh gosh, did I do that?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Even though I know I didn't do that. So I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: wanted Hancock in the rotation. I want to Castillo out
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: of the rotation if we're going to with Bryce coming back,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: and I got that at least a version of that.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I wanted JP eventually off of shortstop and cold Emerson
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: to be our starting shortstop for the season comes to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: a close, and I'm getting it earlier than I thought
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: that I was going to receive that. And I've also
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: been really hard on Dan Wilson, and I wonder how
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: that's going to manifest itself in the world. And so anyway,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: the point is that when you are critical, and when
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: you are agitated and maybe even angry about the start
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: of the season, you say things, and sometimes you say
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: him for effect, and sometimes you say him for a laugh,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you say him just to make a point
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: of emphasis. So you exaggerate a little bit. And so
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if throughout this process, even though I'm getting
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: what I got I wanted, if I have been fair
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: or unfair throughout the process. So let's start with JP.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I think Ashley well within my rights to have questioned
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford's defense. The metrics bear that out. Everybody that's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: questioning JP's defense. His range has suffered recently. All metrics
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: show he has the worst range of starting shortstops in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, and he's ranked that or near the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: bottom and all almost every defensive metric category as a shortstop.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I also think it is fair to question some of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: the offensive attributes that he brings to the table. So
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I say this very level headed, even in a state
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: of somewhat remorse, I say, yes, I think JP's got
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: a great eye at the plate. I wish he was
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: using it more effectively in the ABS Challenge system, which
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: he hasn't been home. But I need a guy that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: It's not enough for him to walk and pop an
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: occasional home run. As a matter of fact, I think
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: when he pops his occasional home run it makes him
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: think that he's a home run hitter, and he's not.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: What I'd like to see more out of JP Crawford
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: are doubles. Yeah, I'd like to see him get into
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: scoring position because when he walks, he doesn't steal anymore.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: So if he walks, he's at first base. And he
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: also gets the worst leads of any person I've ever
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: seen play baseball off of first base. He's like a
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: little league kid because he's so scared of getting picked
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: off over there, and so he's gone he's rarely even
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: going to go first to third on a single. He's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: rarely going to go from first to home on a double.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of a station to station player.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: So if you're going to be a station to station player,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: twenty home runs and a three P fifty six on
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: base percentage, that's not enough. I need you to have
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: a higher batting average, and I need to see more
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: doubles out of you. And if you're not going to
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: be great with your range defensively, then I need you
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: to consistently make every routine play and that includes catching
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: and throwing. And I don't think that we have seen that.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: That's it. So I think I've been fair with all
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of that. Yes, I think JP recognizes it. I think
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: the organization recognizes it. I think the organization has had
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: a plan all season long to put cold Emerson at shortstop,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: no matter what they've said publicly at some point this year.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: But have I been unfair with how I've criticized JP
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: this year Ashley? Have I made too much fun of
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: his lack of speed? Have I gone too far of
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: in trying to make a case for a potential replacement?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Have I been overly critical Have I been unfair at
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: times with JP as an overall player? And have I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: overlooked just how much value because I try not to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: overlook the value of great character and great clubhouse chemistry.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: The mariners of the team that used to overlook now
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: we did. Apparently now it's the most important thing in
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: That's about time.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Have I been unfair and overlooking his overall contribution to
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: this baseball team to this stage?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: I would say the only part that's been unfair has
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: been not recognizing potentially that the leader and the person
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: he is in the clubhouse.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: But how are we supposed to know that we're not
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: in the clubhouse?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: And you don't hear a lot of people talking about
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: JP's excellent leadership. And I think you guys were talking
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: the other day when I was on my hour and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: twenty minute commute in.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: About how there's a lot of leaders.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: There's Cal, There's Naylor, there's there Rock yeah, the Raw yeah.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: And so there are a lot of leaders.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: So it's not like JP is standing out, at least
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: not to us as fans on the outside, right. So
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think that as I when I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: say like that one might be the only place it's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: been unfair.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: But that's because it's been We don't know, and you can't.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: You can't comment really on what you don't know, right,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: you can speculate and you can say, well, it's his
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: leadership that important compared to all these other leaders that
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: you've got right, So you're only so I guess, No,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: you haven't been unfair. And even in the talking about
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: his defense, we talked to Perry Hill and asked Perry
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: Hill if his defense says, you know, gone backwards or
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: suffered in any way, and Perry said, no, you know,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing the same things. And so you went to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: a source, you asked about it. It's not like you
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: ignored trying to find out some information on it. Do
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I think maybe that was a little biased on the Mariner,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: that the Mariners are maybe a little biased and protective
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I do think so. And I understand that.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: As for the swinging for the fences and hitting out
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: of his asset time or swinging out of his asset times.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: We went to Ryan Heally and said, hey, what's going
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: on here? Do you notice this too?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: And he said, well, actually, funny enough, I talked to
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: JP Crawford about it, So I feel like as much
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: as he's gotten criticism, it has been backed up with
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: statistics and then asking other people to weigh in on it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: So I think that there makes it fair.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: And I would also point out since we did go
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: to sources like Hill and Healey, sounds like a great
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: law firm, but it really does. And Hill's response was,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: as long as he's making the routine play and they
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: have a description of what that is. I don't know
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: if I could explain it to our right now, but
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: they have a description, they have a box what they
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: feel as a routine play. But I don't even think
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: he was doing that right, and mostly because of his
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: lack of arm strength from the shortstop.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: And he'd just come back from whatever shoulder issue he
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: was dealing with too, so it could have been part
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was a really big part of it.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: But we're trying to win baseball games exactly, not milk
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: people through their injuries. Yes, either you can make the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: throw or you can't. And then with Heallee, he gave
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: the explanation that JP says that people have a misperception
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: of him swinging for the fences he's never swinging for
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the fences, but he says his timing gets off regularly,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: and then he's just awkward with his follow through and
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: it looks like he's swinging for his fences because his
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: helmet falls off a lot because he has a lot
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: of hair. Right, So that was the explanation, and I'm
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: not even buying that. Again, I'm trying to be fair.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: This entire conversation is about being fair unterer, because then
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: why are you getting out of wax so frequently? That
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: was the part professional baseball player, that was the problem.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: You should not be getting out of balance that frequently.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: If that's your defense, then okay, then don't get out
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: of balance so much because it looks like you're swinging
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: for the fences.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: It does, and that was the concern. Is after that, okay, well,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: why is that happening? That shouldn't be happening to someone
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: who's been playing baseball their whole life.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Dan Wilson. Fair or unfair
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: with Dan Wilson. Here's my analysis, Here's what I'm going
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: to hold to. I think he struggled from the sixth
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: inning on and this is really when a manager from
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: an x's and o's perspective needs to impact the game.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Nathan Bishop did a great breakdown of this for Ian
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Furness a couple of days ago, and that is pitching
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: changes and pinch hitting situations. That's when a manager x'es
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: and o's wise really impacts the game. And I've said
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: frequently that a manager of Major League Baseball, their true
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: value to an organization is not their and o's. They
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: have bench coaches, they've got metrics that they follow, they've
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: got you know, bosses and stat nerds that show them
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: what you should do in certain situations, and sometimes they
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: just followed the book. So x'es and o's is a
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: part of being a manager, But the bigger part of
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: being a manager, and that's why they call him a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: manager and not a head coach in baseball, is managing
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: your personnel, managing your coaches, managing your players, trying to
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: get the most out of everyone on your roster and
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: on your coaching staff. Which it's pretty clear he hasn't
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: gotten the best out of this team so far this season.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: But from an x's and o's perspective, I think he's
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: misfired as well on his pitching changes. When he's resting
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: people being far too cautious with who gets to pitch
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: under what circumstances. And obviously we've all had a problem
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: with how he's used the pinch hit situation. And this
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: is an organization that's become accustomed, as a pitching dominant
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: organganization to winning one run games consistently. It was Scott
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Servis's hallmark. And now all of a sudden, we're a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: team that loses one run games consistently, won one last
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: night yesterday afternoon. But and I think that that has
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: a lot to do with those pivotal x's and o's
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: decisions happening from the sixth through the ninth inning. That's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: where we seem to be losing games, which we in
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: the past have won games because of how good our
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: pitching is, both starting pitching and bullpen. And we're not
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: getting that job done. And it's hard for me not
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: to think that Dan is having a problem. So I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: think all of that is fair, okay, But I have
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: said at times he seems lost. I mean, I have
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: said I don't even like his affect. He seems nervous
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: in the dugout, he seems overwhelmed. He has a look
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: like he's overwhelmed, and that is just pure conjecture on
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: my part. And I'm wondering, is that unfair.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: Because you're saying he seems and you're not saying he is.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: It's obvious he's overwhelmed. It's obvious he's Then that would
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: be unfair because it's not and it is your opinion,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: but you're allowed to have your opinion on what you're seeing,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: and that's not unfair to do.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Does he look unsettled?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: He doesn't look comfortable. I will say that I don't
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: think he looks comfortable.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Nervous leg syndrome. I can just picture I don't see,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: but I can just picture him bouncing his heel the
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: entire time he's standing there.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, and I just I think
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: every time I see him, he doesn't. Yeah, he doesn't
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: exude this comfortability with what's going on.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's because of the games.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, watching the games this year, I'm not
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: comfortable in a lot of them either.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he does this quiet.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: You wanted to have this confidence about him, and he
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: doesn't seem like he's got the I'm the leader confidence,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: you know, that kind of air about him.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I mean they're you're a skipper, and a skipper is
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the head of his ship. I want the sea captain
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: when the storm gets rocky and the boat is getting
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: tossed around, I want the captain to feel like he
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: is in control, don't worry about anything.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: I got this, And you want everyone to look to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: the captain to make sure that they know, yeah, we're
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: gonna be good.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I want the quarterback to be the calmest guy in
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: the huddle on the two minute drill. I want the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: CEO at the conference to reassure me that my future
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: and the company's future is safe. I don't want my manager,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: or my sea captain, or my CEO or my quarterback
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: to look nervous. And maybe that's unfair, which is why
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: we're doing this exercise, juice.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's unfair that those are things you
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: should want in the person leading a team. They get
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: into a leadership role because they exhibit good leadership qualities.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: That is a leadership quality. You haven't called for his job.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: If you had, I think that would have been unfair.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: And I think questioning things and whether he's white right
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: for the right for the role are.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: All within bounds. I mean, this is part of our job.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: You know, these are the athletes representing our city, and
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: these are the people that we're talking about. And so
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: it would be I think unfair if we just looked
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: past it all and said, no, everything's great and just
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: focused on the win or the loss.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, Maren has got the win. Yay Sunshine and Roses.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: As I said, like, that would be unfair because we'd
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: be doing a disservice to our listeners. It is it
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: is our responsibility to look at these things, to talk
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  Speaker 4: about these things, and you haven't gone You've come close
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  Speaker 4: to the line, you have not gone over the line
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  Speaker 4: to being unfair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think my evaluation, that's just my
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  Speaker 1: honest evaluation of the situation. I gave him a C
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  Speaker 1: minus last year when some people were naming a manager
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  Speaker 1: of the year, and I gave him a C minus.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't even think he lived up to a
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  Speaker 1: C minus in the postseason, and I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: lived up to a C minus so far this season.
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  Speaker 1: That means lower than C minus, right, And yet I
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  Speaker 1: think that's my analysis, and I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 1: my analysis. But I did wonder as JP made me
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  Speaker 1: think about things last night. Have I been unfair with
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  Speaker 1: saying he seems lost or he looks lost? Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: I wondered, and so I wanted to bring it up
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  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo last one. I think it's here's what I'll
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  Speaker 1: stand by. We have a five man rotation. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to go to six. And my feeling is I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to stand on any sort of ceremony here
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  Speaker 1: and award somebody who's not getting the job done. If
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  Speaker 1: we've got a numbers crunch and we're going to stick
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  Speaker 1: with a five man rotation, which I think we should,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm going to pitch the five best pitchers. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't care how much money they're making, or how
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  Speaker 1: much seniority there have they have, or how good they
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  Speaker 1: were in the playoffs four years ago. I don't care. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to win a World Series this year, and
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  Speaker 1: I think we have five better starting pitchers than Luis Castillo.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think Luis Castillo could carve out a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous year and a half. As at a bullpen piece
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  Speaker 1: and him striking out the side in the seventh during
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  Speaker 1: Piggyback Gait, I thought was a really good sign, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe that will encourage him to embrace a different role
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  Speaker 1: on this team. So that's my evaluation of it. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I want to see the Mariners do going forward.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily need to see the piggyback anymore
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  Speaker 1: because I kind of think Bryce Miller is one of
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  Speaker 1: our three best pitchers, So I don't want to see
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  Speaker 1: him piggybacked anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But you could just picture him as a long reliever,
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, basically.
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  Speaker 1: I could even picture him as a short reliever, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even more so than a long relief. Okay, what he
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  Speaker 1: showed us in the seventh was magical.
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  Speaker 2: It was good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's my evaluation of things. But I will
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  Speaker 1: ask you, is it unfair of me to cast him
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  Speaker 1: out like that to considering what he means to the
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  Speaker 1: team and what he means to that pitching staff. Is
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  Speaker 1: it unfair of me to relegate Luis Castillo to a
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  Speaker 1: bullpen role for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's unfair for him to be relegated
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  Speaker 4: to a bullpen roll. For you to say that that's
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  Speaker 4: where he should be, I mean, if you're looking at
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  Speaker 4: numbers again, that's what's going to back it up, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think the only place where people have been unfair
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  Speaker 4: with the Luis Castillo situation. And this isn't just a
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  Speaker 4: you thing. This is all I think I was guilty
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  Speaker 4: of it. I think all of us have been guilty
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  Speaker 4: of it. It's saying that we thought the Mariners were
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  Speaker 4: keeping him to not hurt his feelings. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: we were giving the Mariners enough credit. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: we were giving Luis Castillo enough credit. And that's where
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  Speaker 4: I would say we were all all unfair.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I think that's fair to say that I
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  Speaker 1: was unfair.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And as I said, I was guilty of it too.
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  Speaker 4: We all, oh, they're gonna do this because they don't
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  Speaker 4: want to hurt his feelings. But that's not in there.
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  Speaker 2: That's not.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, we've heard this pitching staff doesn't operate
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: that way, and clearly the Mariners aren't operating that way,
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  Speaker 4: or he wouldn't have been the second part of the piggyback.
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  Speaker 2: H So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I think we've.
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  Speaker 2: Got to give them more credit there.
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  Speaker 1: All right, good, all right, we got it out.
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  Speaker 2: It's cathartic feel better. I do feel better.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel better, and I actually feel but uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I if I have been unfair, it was
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  Speaker 1: in the presentation of trying to extract emphasis to my points.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't feel like I've treated the scenarios unfairly
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  Speaker 1: after talking with you, but I will say this, I'm
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  Speaker 1: bound to be fair and unfair for the rest of
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think that's quite a noble statement from you.
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  Speaker 4: Very definitive, very definitive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. Coming up next on the radio program,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: we will have one more I'm not gonna say the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: last conversation. I think we at least have to have
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: one more conversation about yesterday's big topic since it was
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