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Unity In Metal: HUMAN CONDITION Prepare To Drop Debut EP · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: So I want to start with, firstly, huge congrats on
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  Speaker 1: your debut EPSCHC. You guys have been playing music since 2024,
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  Speaker 1: and I was wondering how does it feel to finally
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  Speaker 1: have these tracks out after playing them for so long? Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: recording this interview before they're out, but how do you
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  Speaker 1: think it will feel, or how are you feeling having
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  Speaker 1: them at least recorded and soon.
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  Speaker 2: To be out?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess I'll start. Personally, I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 4: I know I'm newish to the band we're talking about
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  Speaker 4: on the way, over um it's definitely like joining the
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  Speaker 4: band later seeing that the the hype is real i
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  Speaker 4: guess um and people are keen so it's like really
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  Speaker 4: excited it's exciting to uh get it out for them
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  Speaker 4: and get things ready get things going.
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  Speaker 1: Does it feel scary at all or are you kind
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  Speaker 1: of just like keen to get it out.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little like it's a little nerve-wracking um but
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  Speaker 4: i think for me personally the excitement just like outweighs
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  Speaker 4: the nerves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah i think I think I'm the same.
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  Speaker 5: Like I sort of go through stages of, um, it's
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  Speaker 5: hard as a vocalist, like hearing your own voice over
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  Speaker 5: and over again.
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  Speaker 3: Um, and it gets to a point where.
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  Speaker 5: Now I struggle to listen to like the final, the
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  Speaker 5: final recording and mix and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Cause I'm like, Oh, I'm sick. It's so sick of
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  Speaker 3: hearing my own voice.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm excited to see how other people hear it
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  Speaker 5: and what they take from it. And I'm just so
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  Speaker 5: excited to get it out, you know, after like, so
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  Speaker 5: long and, you know, having just little setbacks and to
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  Speaker 5: get in and finally get it out is so cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've been wanting to interview guys for
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  Speaker 1: ages and I was like, wait, they don't music out.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe this, but this is, we're finally here, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: and you're releasing it through fortify records. And I was
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  Speaker 1: wondering if you could tell me a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: like the writing and recording process, um, for the EP.
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  Speaker 6: Let's talk about this for a bit um but yeah
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  Speaker 6: shout out harry um he drums in scram and omong
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  Speaker 6: and he's um been a big well he basically like
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  Speaker 6: produced our ep for us and recorded everything and mixed
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  Speaker 6: it all himself and um it's been really fun and
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  Speaker 6: a big learning curve because it's like three out of
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  Speaker 6: five of our first band um so there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of stuff we didn't know um And yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 6: been really fun. This sort of style that we are
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  Speaker 6: was a bit different to what Harry's used to recording.
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  Speaker 6: And I think there was, um, we had a lot
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  Speaker 6: of fun, me and Harry, like sort of talking about what,
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  Speaker 6: what parts to keep raw and what parts to keep
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  Speaker 6: kind of clean on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty, pretty fun.
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  Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's like the beauty of recording
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  Speaker 2: is that like you do get to learn and that
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  Speaker 2: like you all put in different inputs and different influences.
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  Speaker 2: Like a lot of us have come from different backgrounds
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  Speaker 2: of like even just personal taste. And as well as
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  Speaker 2: Harry is just such a lovely guy. So he made
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  Speaker 2: like the recording process like really comfortable and really easy.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's like something that I think it's
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  Speaker 2: important to mention is like, yes, it's scary that we're
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  Speaker 2: releasing music, but it's also not because like the community
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  Speaker 2: and hardcore is just unreal. Like everyone just backs each other.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone wants to support each other. Everyone wants to uplift
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  Speaker 2: each other. So it's, like, yes, it's nerve-wracking, but it's, like,
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  Speaker 2: almost more, like, excitement because you know that, like, everyone will, like,
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  Speaker 2: rally together and support each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And also shout out Nick from Fortify Records, obviously, because
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  Speaker 6: she's kind of been the one who's pushed us. Like,
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  Speaker 6: she wasn't, like, you know, hounding us all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Not all the time.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Encouraging us and getting us to honestly like exactly what
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  Speaker 6: we've needed and she's like we played with um her
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  Speaker 6: band one of her bands like in may last year
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  Speaker 6: and she's just sort of backed us ever since and
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  Speaker 6: kind of had dibs on putting us out it's.
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  Speaker 5: Crazy because i think talking to nick she said that
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  Speaker 5: we were actually the first band that she asked about
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  Speaker 5: putting out on fortify records and.
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  Speaker 7: I'm so grateful for Nick to not give up hope
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  Speaker 7: on us and the right level of encouragement and also
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  Speaker 7: just accountability of getting us in and encouraging us to
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  Speaker 7: get it done and just organising everything with this release.
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  Speaker 5: And merch and Um, some shows and just so cool.
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  Speaker 3: So awesome. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Support person as well. I think, um, as for a band,
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  Speaker 4: but also on like personal levels, I think we've all
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  Speaker 4: made like a bit of a connection with Nick.
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  Speaker 3: Um, and a really good support person in the scene
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  Speaker 3: for us all.
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: It's really interesting when you get into that, like recording process,
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  Speaker 1: it brings like all these third party members in. It's
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  Speaker 1: really nice to like have that reassurance and have that
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  Speaker 1: validation and support. And then also like obviously create a
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  Speaker 1: space where you're able to be vulnerable and you're able
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  Speaker 1: to create because it is so personal and it is
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  Speaker 1: so difficult. So that's awesome to hear that you guys
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  Speaker 1: had a great experience. And I saw you play last year.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was last year with Scorn. It was
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  Speaker 1: like ages ago. But I wanted to talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about your live show. And obviously there's like a
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  Speaker 1: physicality to hardcore that you don't get in every genre.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I was wondering if it takes a lot for
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  Speaker 1: you to get into that kind of like performance mindset
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  Speaker 1: when you're performing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, there is definitely a set routine that
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  Speaker 5: I have.
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  Speaker 3: On a day of the show.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that's just the way my mind operates
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  Speaker 5: and being a front person and sort of how you present,
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  Speaker 5: like you're that first person person that people are looking
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  Speaker 5: at so i have to really try and be in
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  Speaker 5: a mindset of yeah energy and performance and.
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  Speaker 3: Saying the right things.
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  Speaker 5: In between songs like i know some people don't plan
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  Speaker 5: it and they just sort of let whatever's going on
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  Speaker 5: their mind just sort of come out and i think
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  Speaker 5: that's good go with the flow but i like to
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  Speaker 5: have a little bit of.
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  Speaker 3: A set thing and um Yeah, the physicality is a
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  Speaker 3: big thing. And I think it's.
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  Speaker 5: A front person, especially I know for me, it has
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  Speaker 5: a lot of effect on how people react to the music.
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  Speaker 5: Like I know sometimes you go and see a band
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  Speaker 5: and their front person is just, if it doesn't look
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  Speaker 5: like they want to be there, then, you know, it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't really matter how talented they are. It's just not
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  Speaker 5: going to hit as well. And I know a lot
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  Speaker 5: of the front people that I look up to, they
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  Speaker 5: have that energy, they have that mindset, they have that,
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  Speaker 5: that look of like having fun, they're wanting to be
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  Speaker 5: there while also still conveying important messages. But yeah, in
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  Speaker 5: terms of the day of the show, I'm, I get
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  Speaker 5: really nervous. So like I have to try and eat
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  Speaker 5: as much food as I can before midday of a show.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise I like coming up a few hours before I
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  Speaker 3: can't eat.
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm, I get nervous and then I get really
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  Speaker 5: like antsy and hyped up and just kind of like
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people have commented on it. I kind
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  Speaker 5: of just pace around and move around a lot before
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  Speaker 5: a show. And then on the stage as well, it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's yeah, it's definitely physically demanding as well. If you
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  Speaker 5: want to move around a lot and sing and maintain
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  Speaker 5: a voice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. All of the spectrum of emotion sounds like every
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  Speaker 1: single one.
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  Speaker 3: What about you guys?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have kind of like a, a routine that
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  Speaker 1: you go through?
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  Speaker 4: I think, um, Ben actually inspired me a little bit
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  Speaker 4: with a routine. I, I used to go to gigs, just, um, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just, I just show up and do it.
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  Speaker 4: And then, uh, I saw Ben a couple of times,
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  Speaker 4: just like take a breather before the set.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, well, that's a really good idea. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: it just, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: There's something about just having 10 minutes, fresh air, walking
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  Speaker 4: around outside before set just gets me in that physicality, um,
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  Speaker 4: gets me in the mindset. like, gets me a bit
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  Speaker 4: more revved up, ready for the show.
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  Speaker 3: So thanks, Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out.
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  Speaker 3: That's okay.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, Ben definitely has saved me at times that I'm, like,
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  Speaker 2: feeling nervous, and then he'll just, like, get out there and, like,
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  Speaker 2: just give it his all, and I'm like, okay, cool, like,
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  Speaker 2: we're all in this together, like, we got this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think for me, like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: Rosie has the same thing, but I do try to bring, like,
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  Speaker 2: energy um when I'm playing just because obviously like hardcore
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  Speaker 2: is a male dominated scene and I think it is
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  Speaker 2: like really important to see like all different types of
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  Speaker 2: people on stage and bring that energy just to make
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  Speaker 2: people feel more comfortable because I know for sure like
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  Speaker 2: I've been like in crowds and like the times that
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  Speaker 2: I've felt comfortable like trying them off like two-step is
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  Speaker 2: because like there's been a woman on stage it's like
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  Speaker 2: you know really empowering and like you know like all
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  Speaker 2: the women kind of like come together and like um
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  Speaker 2: yeah like support each other um so I think that's
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  Speaker 2: like a part of the reason why I like try
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  Speaker 2: to bring an energy and then I guess it's also
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  Speaker 2: like vice versa like I'll go out there and like
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  Speaker 2: when you see your friends like you know showing support
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  Speaker 2: and like giving it their order like be like you
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  Speaker 2: know like I'm proud of you guys then you're like
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  Speaker 2: oh thanks and then you get hyped and it's just
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  Speaker 2: nice and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I feel like I definitely appreciate that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I find a hardcore mosh. Well, not obviously, but I
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  Speaker 1: find a hardcore mosh quite scary. And yeah, it is
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  Speaker 1: awesome to have a woman on stage doing that. And
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  Speaker 1: it is awesome that you guys have each other as
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  Speaker 1: well to kind of bring that energy and hype each
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  Speaker 1: other up. And I wanted to talk about the sunny
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  Speaker 1: coast cause that's where you guys are from. And you've
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  Speaker 1: played all over the country. And I was wondering how
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  Speaker 1: the sunny coast hardcore scene like differs from the other
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  Speaker 1: hardcore scenes around Australia and like what, I guess what,
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  Speaker 1: what is unique about it and what you appreciate about it.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. I think everyone across all scenes will always say
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  Speaker 5: that there is something different and that's true, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like of course, city to city, Place to place, scenes are.
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  Speaker 5: Going to vary in terms of, you know, sound and
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  Speaker 5: I guess, you know, attitudes.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the thing that really makes Sunshine Coast.
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  Speaker 5: And like Nambour more specifically unique is the fact that Nambour,
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  Speaker 5: I love Nambour so much and I love it because
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  Speaker 5: it still is a bit of a shithole. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't mean that in a disrespectful way. I mean that
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  Speaker 5: in the best way possible. And because.
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  Speaker 3: It allows people in an area like the Sunshine Coast, which.
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  Speaker 5: Is quite, you know, in part still quite conservative, it
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  Speaker 5: allows people to come to something that's more left of
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  Speaker 5: field and still express themselves. And I think as well,
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  Speaker 5: there's the Sunshine Coast hardcore scene, but then right next
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  Speaker 5: to it, is a scene that Borgie from Bad Habits
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  Speaker 5: has really helped cultivate over the last few years of
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  Speaker 5: just like, there are people that no matter the type
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  Speaker 5: of music, whether it's hardcore show, punk show, there's a
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  Speaker 5: core group of people that will come to every single
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  Speaker 5: show that is on in Nambour. And that's a credit
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  Speaker 5: to Borg. You know, it's not just a lot of times,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's not just hardcore people. It'll be hardcore
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  Speaker 5: and punk people will, and metal dudes kind of like
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  Speaker 5: mixing together.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's really beautiful. And it creates this.
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  Speaker 5: Really nice array of bands. It's not just everyone trying
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  Speaker 5: to make the same sound and make the same scene.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's so great. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: really does set Nambour apart as well. Like, but to
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  Speaker 5: get to this position now where it's kind of on
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  Speaker 5: the map, like, That was kind of all Cherry a
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  Speaker 5: couple of years ago, putting in so much work with Anti-Vision.
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  Speaker 5: And I sort of seeing that firsthand, you know, from
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  Speaker 5: going to shows in Nambour where there was literally like
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  Speaker 5: six people. Like I remember Electric Chair in Nambour when
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  Speaker 5: I first met Cherry properly. And there was literally like
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  Speaker 5: six people at that show, not including band members.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, there was like no one there. And
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  Speaker 3: I remember talking to Cherry and being like, oh, we've
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  Speaker 3: got to get like... it'd be so cool to get
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  Speaker 3: like hardcore bands here.
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  Speaker 5: And then, yeah, you know, I, um, I think it
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  Speaker 5: was after seeing terror at soul bar, um, and soul
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  Speaker 5: bars now shot. I remember he, Terry saying to me like, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: how cool would it be to get like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: look back on posters and stuff and see Nambour on
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  Speaker 5: the posters of like an international band.
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  Speaker 3: And now it's happened. And it's like, it just keeps
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  Speaker 3: growing and growing and it's really cool, you know?
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  Speaker 5: And it's testament everyone that sort of, willingness to work
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  Speaker 5: hard and it still happens now you know like you
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  Speaker 5: with guerrilla bookings and like Kalani and Bowie and stuff
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  Speaker 5: um I see it you know the hard extra bit
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  Speaker 5: of hard work you have to do to encourage bands
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  Speaker 5: to come up here rather than not just play Brisbane
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  Speaker 5: but all that started with anti-vision and bad habit records
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  Speaker 5: so props to them always oh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like yeah the hardest working kind of like
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  Speaker 1: independent promoters are always in those kinds of areas. Like
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  Speaker 1: there's loads in the Northern rivers as well that I
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  Speaker 1: would say kind of the same. And I, I love
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  Speaker 1: to hear that you're bringing all of kind of the
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  Speaker 1: heavier music together, even though it's all different genres and
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  Speaker 1: that's lovely to hear. It's turning into a space for that.
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  Speaker 1: And kind of on the same sort of vein, you've
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  Speaker 1: had the opportunity to play alongside alongside like a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of huge names that in hardcore is there a particular
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  Speaker 1: band that you guys have toured with or played with
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  Speaker 1: that has changed the way that you think about human
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: condition or that you've possibly learned from or chatted about
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  Speaker 1: something and really took it with you.
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  Speaker 6: That is like um there wouldn't definitely be like just
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  Speaker 6: one band i feel like we because we all like
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  Speaker 6: different music and our bands inspired by so many different
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  Speaker 6: like sounds that we have so much to learn from
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  Speaker 6: like so many bands we play with but like Obviously
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  Speaker 6: the first band that comes to my mind would be Lowe,
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  Speaker 6: from Yangon. They also represent SCHC, South Periscope. They, Luca
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  Speaker 6: from the bass player from that band, booked our first
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  Speaker 6: little tour. We did at the start of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had no music at all, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no music at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to take the chance like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And, yeah, they really just, like, again, like, they kind
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  Speaker 6: of believed in us, and they had seen us play, actually,
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: at the same show that Nick saw us play, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: they were like, you guys are awesome, like, and they
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: loved us, and it was just really cool to have them, like,
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  Speaker 6: back us like that, and they made us play second
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  Speaker 6: last every night, even though we were, like, like, I
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: tried to talk to Dave multiple times, dude, like, I don't, like,
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  Speaker 6: play second last, we have no music yet, and he's like,
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  Speaker 6: I don't care, like, we brought you here and we
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  Speaker 6: had a great like reception from every crowd that that
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  Speaker 6: tour like yeah it was awesome it was uh yeah
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  Speaker 6: really cool and there's like other bands that local bands
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  Speaker 6: that have really helped inspire us to um like wet
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  Speaker 6: work and sick people and um name drop guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah i think as well It's so hard. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: so hard to just put it on one band.
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  Speaker 5: But for me personally, that band that has always backed
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  Speaker 5: us and it's wet work, you know, from Brisbane. Just
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  Speaker 5: from the start, everyone in that band has just like
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  Speaker 5: backed us hugely, big time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, always been. I find myself constantly when I have
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: sort of questions.
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  Speaker 5: About, music scenes or just music in general or how
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  Speaker 5: to do something, I find myself going to Lucas, the singer,
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  Speaker 5: or Dylan, the guitarist, just because they have so much
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  Speaker 5: knowledge on everything and are always, you know, so welcoming
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  Speaker 5: and encouraging.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, and of course, as well.
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  Speaker 5: It's pretty crazy playing with a band like Scram as well, like,
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  Speaker 5: and to have them you know, to be like friends
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  Speaker 5: of ours is pretty crazy considering the, just the traction
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  Speaker 5: they're getting at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: It's, it's one of those things.
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  Speaker 5: It's, I guess it's a beauty of being in a
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  Speaker 5: sort of a more DIY scene. It's like, you can
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  Speaker 5: be listening to these great awesome songs on the daily
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: and then you kind of remember, Oh, I'm actually like
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: friends with these people.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: That's really crazy. Yeah. Oh, well that's awesome.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like you guys saying that there's not one
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: band is, is kind of an answer in itself of,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: what Emma was coming back to saying earlier was like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the support of the hardcore scene is just insane. So
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that's awesome to hear. But yeah, those are all my questions.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: So thanks so much for chatting with me. I really
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: No worries.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you.