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Rules For Thee: The Hypocrisy Behind Political Outrage · The Elsa Kurt Show

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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, well, well, well.
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  Speaker 2: The Tesla situation has not decreased at all.
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  Speaker 2: It's still insane.
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  Speaker 2: And we're not talking about rising car prices or EV tax credits.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the actual orchestrated violence and attacks against Elon Musk's Tesla brand.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, stars, not even, I mean.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: Obviously it's because it's his um, but attacking other people's vehicles is is really what it comes down to, and I think it's kind of ironic, clay, I don't know about you, but I think it's kind of ironic that the predominant buyer of Tesla's have been left-leaning people, so they're torching and keying and vandalizing each other's vehicles.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: The stupidity right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I've seen it.
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: You've probably seen it too.
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  Speaker 3: There's actual pictures out there where the owners will take one of those soap markers, like kids, write on happy graduation or happy birthday, and they'll write on the window purchased in 2020, you know before you know, owner is a Democrat, whatever Just to try and protect themselves.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: But you know, it would make sense and I'm not advocating, obviously, for any of this, but it would make sense.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: The attack on the dealerships and the dealerships only it would make sense.
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: The attack on the dealerships and the dealerships, only the attack on the charging stations doesn't make any sense.
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: And the attack on personally owned vehicles certainly doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand the Cybertruck seems to be catching the bulk of it because it's the newest model.
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  Speaker 3: The Cybertruck came out during the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 3: Most of those were pre-ordered and were in possession of the owner before President Trump was in office, before Elon was running Doge.
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  Speaker 3: So you're right, they're beating each other up, they're causing each other heartache and it's over.
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  Speaker 3: Just this lashing, this very, very immature lashing out.
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  Speaker 3: That makes no sense at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the typical response and reaction that they tend to have, and of course, I'm generalizing, but it's pretty stinking accurate, you know.
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: So here's the thing, though like the as usual, like the left run media, downplays it, barely talks about it and treats it as if it's like isolated incidents.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: Right, and now Elon Musk himself is coming out and saying that he actually knows who is behind.
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is him trying to scare, it's a scare tactic, or if he really knows.
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  Speaker 2: I don't personally know.
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  Speaker 2: But now he's saying I know who's behind it and we're coming for him.
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  Speaker 2: So you know these are orchestrated attacks from somebody with obviously a lot of money.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: And, of course, my, my mind goes right to Soros.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: You know Soros backed right, um, yeah, yeah.
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: No, it's, um, you know, uh, a lot of it is, you know, lefty crazy.
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: You know they still haven't figured out that every one of these vehicles has nine, seven cameras or nine cameras on it.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: You can't pick up on it, you can't scuff it, dent it, key it, which seems to be the predominant thing, although there has been some spray paint and some other more permanent, you know, kind of stuff, but those, you can't escape that stuff, but it.
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: And it seems that people that keep getting caught are the low hanging fruit, they're the dumbest ones that haven't figured that stuff out yet.
• 5:44
  Speaker 3: And it seems that people that keep getting caught are the low hanging fruit, they're the dumbest ones that haven't figured that stuff out yet.
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: But the bigger stuff, the burned down dealerships, the attacks on the charging stations, you know there's even people now that are test driving them and really putting them through some painful paces when they're test driving and doing damage to them as part of the test drive, and that is the kind of stuff that you're talking about and everybody's mind anybody with a half a brain goes to Soros because you know it's laundered four ways from Sunday.
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: It's Soros' money and it goes to somebody else and it gets to Antifa and then Antifa finds somebody and they pay them and you know.
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: So it's all of those methods that we saw, you know 2020, you know during COVID and George Floyd and all of that stuff.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: This is the same thing, right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: These are the predominantly paid agitators who listen.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they get bailed out afterwards or not, but they're probably getting paid what they consider to be a reasonable sum of money to do these things.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: And you're absolutely right.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: You know you watch those videos, those camera videos from the Teslas, and you know I mean I'm going to try not to be overly mean, but the people that are doing this and then getting like confronted after I saw Love it Right.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: I saw did you see the one the other day?
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  Speaker 2: It was an elderly guy and I mean, yes, yeah, had the quickly right, I saw.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see the one the other day?
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  Speaker 2: It was an elderly guy and I mean, yes, yeah had the exact same jacket on did you just key at tesla the other day.
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  Speaker 5: You're on video.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the guy.
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  Speaker 5: You just keyed a tesla.
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  Speaker 5: You got a video online.
• 7:18
  Speaker 5: I just saw it.
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  Speaker 5: It's all over the fucking face.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, you have the media.
• 7:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, you did.
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  Speaker 5: You keyed a tesla in a parking lot somewhere around here.
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  Speaker 5: What do you got to say about?
• 8:00
  Speaker 5: Said I plainly saw you doing it.
• 8:01
  Speaker 5: You pulled up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're on camera.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not know this at?
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: this point at least.
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yes, I agree with you.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: I think those are definitely like the low hanging fruit, people who just don't you know, they're just reactive people that you know, the media and the leftist, the Democrats we'll call them because that's what that party is now.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: They're just all leftist people for the most part.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: They say be angry and they're like okay, I'm angry, what am I angry about?
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, it doesn't matter, I'll just be angry.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: And, you know, do destructive things because you told me to.
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: It's.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, though, it's escalating, and I say that it's escalating to the individual owner, so that they had the dealership that got attacked, that got firebombed, right, a bunch of cars got burned on that.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: That person got arrested already.
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: And then you had the other one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this like the front of the dealership.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: They came out with paintball guns, plastered it with a bunch of, like maroon colored paint.
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: But what you're having now this is where things are going to get very, very dangerous is that you've got, you know, protesters.
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know another word other than lunatics.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got these lunatics and they're attacking people on the roadway.
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: It's a it's a road rage situation.
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: So they're, they're cutting them off, they're they're kind of leaning into them in traffic.
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: They're doing all those sorts of things, and thankfully, nothing has escalated to a point of real violence yet.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: But as this continues, if this doesn't get brought under control, that's exactly what's going to happen.
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: You're going to have a conservative concealed carry holder who has got a gun in his or her vehicle, who gets rammed on the highway, and then you, you know, they pull over and a lunatic jumps out of their vehicle to attack them because they drive a Tesla and somebody is going to get hurt.
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: It's going to, and I mean there's going to be a fatality.
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: Somebody is going to get shot over.
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  Speaker 3: This.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: It's gonna happen.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you're wrong, you know in.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think you're wrong, you know, and I mean I don't know what the deterrent is, because I think they're already getting charges, or felony charges, I think they I don't know if they can and are charging every time they catch somebody.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: If they're charging them with domestic terrorism, if they can, they should.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't know, but I keep hearing the term felony charges against vandalizing these vehicles, because I think it's because they're escalating it to being domestic terrorism, which it is.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: It is 100%.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I don't care who disagrees with me.
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  Speaker 2: This is domestic terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: It's organized, politically motivated, organized attacks.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, I mean prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: It's the only deterrent I can think of.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: You know that that might have some kind of impact, you know, unless they're getting bailed out by, you know, soros backed.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right.
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: So this is there's no deterrent right now, and again it continues to escalate, which I hate to keep saying this, but it is going to escalate to the point of a fatality here sooner or later.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: But you touched on it before and I think the biggest thing is that no one in the media and no one on the left from their political leadership is saying stop doing this, stop doing this.
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: There is no hey, enough is enough.
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: Hey, we understand you're frustrated.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: Hey, don't do this, stop doing this.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: There is no hey, enough is enough.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: Hey, we understand you're frustrated.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Hey, don't do this.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: You know nobody is saying that out loud.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: The media is certainly not saying it, right, and then, of course, the Democratic leadership is certainly not saying it.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: So when you don't have that, you know that example being set you don't have that leadership quality that says OK, this is absurd, we've had enough of this.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: I know you're mad, stop doing it.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: None of that is happening.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: So this is just going to keep going and again it's going to turn in.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: Something tragic is going to happen and it's it's going to be pretty bad.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Right, and you know, and even worse than them, not condemning the actions and the behavior, they are absolutely fueling the fire and spurring them on.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're you know, you got your Cory Bookers, who we're going to be talking about shortly, and your Jasmine Crockett's and your AOCs and you know all of these.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: You know flaming idiots encouraging and don't forget Maxine Waters, who's always shaking her bony finger at somebody, telling them to you know, interrupt their dinners and don't let them rest and go to their homes, and all of the things.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Don't let them rest and go to their homes, and all of the things.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: You know they're not just ignoring it, they're encouraging it, which is actually even worse.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Gone are the days where you know politicians would like a whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: You know our leaders.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: You can have these opposing views, you can get pretty nasty and spicy about it, but when it crossed the line into violence and destruction and you know riots and all of those things, there was a time I know nobody can actually remember it anymore because it's so far back in our history now there was a time when you know they'd go whoa, okay, hang on, everybody's got to calm down, rein it in, let's keep this civil.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: And that is not happening.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: And I find that to be, you know, truly the most appalling part of all of it, that the people who are supposed to be leading by example for our country are behaving the way they're doing, and I just want to see stern consequence for it.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: And I feel like we're not seeing it.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: You know we're getting a lot of finger wagging.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: I want to see Mike Johnson do more censoring of these people, and I know I'm kind of drifting off a little bit on this one, but you know this is kind of where it stems from, because this is who's part of encouraging this kind of behavior.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and, and really there's.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: There are so many consequences to this that aren't being considered.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: All of these people that are, that are conducting this.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: You know domestic terrorism.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I won't even say vandalism, because it's not.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: You are a hundred percent right, this is domestic terrorism.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, attorney general Pam Bondi says the same thing.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Right, that's right, she does.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so these people don't.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're thinking through this, I don't know if they even care, but as soon as you are a felon which is what this turns into you can't vote anymore Like so, you're, that's gone, right.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: You, you know your earning potential goes down significantly, right, like, there, there's a lot.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: You can be, as you know, upset as you want about this.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: You know you don't like president Trump, you don't like Elon Musk, but as soon as you venture into this criminality which is what's going on you are.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: This is not protesting, right?
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: This is not peaceful protesting.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: You are ending portions of your life, whether you agree with it or not.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: That's going to happen.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: So the consequences, like you say, I don't think our people are really realizing how severe they can be.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: The problem is they're also not instantaneous.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: You know, with court, you know our justice system, the way that it works, it does take time and these sorts of things.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Some of these people are going to get prosecuted and know the you know the end game or the end state of all of this.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: For a year, maybe two Right Appeals will last a long time, but you know they're going to lose a lot, especially the people caught on tape.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: There's no there.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: There is no recourse for that.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: You know there's no getting around that.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: It's not a case of mistaken identity.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Case in point the bald guy with the jacket, literally wearing the same clothes, literally.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's going to get worse before it gets better.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they are hurting Elon Musk, not necessarily by the vandalism for the cars and even the vandalism for the dealership.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: The other piece component to this is you know, tesla stocks have dropped, tesla purchases have dropped and with the stocks I saw this just yesterday there is a component inside of Hollywood where people are buying the stock and then selling it at a much lower price, driving the price down and then selling it at a much lower price, driving the price down.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: So they're purposely tanking the value of Tesla itself, you know, as a form of political protest.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I would much rather have them do that right than the violent part of it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, this is this.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Doing that is the same thing as not buying Budweiser.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing as all of those other.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: You know, stop shopping at Target.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing as as all of those other.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: You know, stop shopping at target.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing, a little more dastardly, I think, but you know it's a nonviolent protest to to Elon Musk and his company.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, it is what it is, but that's much better than burning down dealerships and, you know, potentially hurting people and and all that stuff.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Um, you know all of it is disgusting and I do agree if you're going to do it, if you're going to make your, your statement in your protest.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: You know, you, you do, you know it's.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: It's like all of those things you do with your wallet, you do it with your vote, you do it in a civilized you know.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Just be civilized, that's all I mean.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't have to agree with what they're doing by any means and and I honestly do, and I don't know about you, you know, and I know some people will balk at the idea of, like, feeling bad for Elon Musk because he is a multi-billionaire and he's going to be perfectly fine.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: But on the, you know, on the emotional level, on the humanity level, I mean, this guy was their darling, like he was beloved by, by the left and because, because he changed his mind on something, this is what he gets, you know, and that's a cautionary tale to every single public figure on the left.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, pay attention to what they're doing to this guy because, say something out of line, you know, get one little fraction out of lockstep, and this is what they do to you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I mean that anyone would want to be associated with that party, and that mentality is beyond me absolutely.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And you and you've got the people who don't consider or refuse to consider the other things that he does and has been doing.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I've actually, you know Charlie Kirk I love watching the Charlie Kirk clips, but you know you've got a lot of people that will.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of college kids will take their you know their 30 seconds of fame and talk about how well Elon doesn't do it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: It's all his employees, it's all you know.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: It's all this, it's all that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: But you even have, you know, like the ladies on the View were, like I don't know, I don't understand why we even have SpaceX, like we have NASA, they don't even understand that NASA has not sent a manned mission to space since 2011.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Right, it's been 14 years since NASA did that.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Everything else that's been done has been through NASA, but NASA has not launched anything manned into space in 14 years.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: So you know, elon has the capability, spacex has the capability.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, starlink, we could talk about Starlink for all of that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, those that are go the opposite political direction, changing nothing else.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tesla hasn't changed.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Spacex hasn't changed.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: The only thing he did was he bought X and he let President Trump back on X.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but other than that, his businesses have not changed.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: No, and they still hate him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't even get that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: They are the ones that pushed him, yeah, to make this reevaluation.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And it's so crazy too, when you think about it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Right, clay, you're talking about like one of the smartest guys alive and innovator, creator all of these things.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: They idolized him and it baffles me that they wouldn't go.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Huh, the guy that I idolize and think is one of the smartest humans on our planet right now he's changing his mind about something.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Gee, maybe I should reevaluate and think about it and see, you know what he's talking about.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And instead they're just like no, oh, you know, the switch goes off and they're like Elon bad, just like orange man bad Elon bad.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: It's so bizarre to me how controlled they are by the media.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: By the media, I mean, it's by the media there, that is a hundred percent politicians.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I mentioned them all the time because they're, they're part of it too.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Um, but man, oh man, the power that the media has over these people is mind blowing.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yep, and that's again.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: You know they're not speaking out against the attacks on Tesla they're not speaking about, period I.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Even the reporting on them is minimal.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: So you know it's Elon's bad.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Musk is bad, bad, bad.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: He's associated with Trump is bad.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, he owns Tesla.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And then they move on to something else, right, and, and that's how all of this works.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: And again, it's orchestrated at multiple echelons.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I firmly believe it starts with Soros and it works its way down.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: You know the money's being moved around, it's being laundered, and that's how those things.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: And then the bails being paid and fees are being paid and all that other stuff.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: So you know everything that President Trump does, everything that's associated with him, every person that is associated with him, is a horrible human being.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: There's no respite there.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: But that's the party of love.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Love and tolerance.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Love is love, be kind, coexist.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Every slogan cliche bumper sticker.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Every slogan cliche bumper sticker.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: All them, and also the same people that I, you know and, as you well know, uh, I am a.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I certainly would call myself a victim by any means, but I am a recipient of that uh type of hate and disgust and contempt from them.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You know, just for having my opinions, that's it, it's all you do.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Just have an opinion that doesn't go along with theirs and they will come after you.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And I see people on the right, you know, conservative voices, who are very moderate in their delivery, like, they're actually very kind in the way that they relay the information, but because the information that they're relaying or sharing, or truths that they're sharing, don't align with what they think, they just rip them to shreds and, of course, docks them.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You know you're talking about people who will expose where you live, who your family members are, attack your children on social media.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're dealing with people who, for whatever reasons, are beyond unhinged and it is scary.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And I totally get why people choose not to get involved, you know.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: But this is and I've gone back to this many times over the years that, you know, this is why we're at where we're at.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You cannot allow them to just dominate the narrative like this all the time.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And it's not, you know, the pushback is so here.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, we are living in the pushback now, which is phenomenal, but my goodness, I certainly understand why people won't.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's the narrative, you know, switching topics, the narrative has been, you know, through the entire last administration.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: You know well it takes this and well it takes that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: We can.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Nothing moves that fast, right, and President Trump, when he talked to the joint session of Congress, talked about it with the border, and it was one of those.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: That was the absolute mic drop moment of the night.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: The media and our friends in the Democrat party kept saying we needed new legislation.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: We must have legislation to secure the border, but it turned out that all we really needed was a new president.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And here we are, here we are, here we are and it's all happening and you know, just like you said, with the border crossing alone, it is just phenomenal, it's unbelievable.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: What's the number?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I think the number is like it's down like 94%, is that right?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yep, it's the lowest it's been in decades and it's down 94% from last year.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, there is also now reverse border crossing, paid for the coyotes.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: For those of you that don't know right, those are the guides.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Those are paid.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Those are the people that know where the tunnels are, they know where the crossing points are, they know all of those things and they get paid to move people across the border.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: They are now being paid to bring people back to Mexico.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Wow, unbelievable People would rather pay that fee than the potential fines that come with being here illegally.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Um, so there there is.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: They have, like border patrol knows this is happening, that people are paying to move back across the border.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely incredible and, of course, you know if you paying to move back across the border.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely incredible and, of course, you know, if you were to listen to what the left run media is saying, it's because the weather it's the weather Really Like.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: The crossings are down because the weather like that is so hateful, spiteful and, and you know and beyond, resistant to crediting the Trump administration with anything whatsoever.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: It's nothing that has to do with the policies and Trump's stance on this and the border patrol agents being able to do their jobs.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Now it's the weather.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't even stand them Clay Well and so we're.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: You know we're taking steps that the previous administration and even President Trump didn't take in this administration, right, so the wall is getting finished, right, and it's going, and it's going quickly.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: But they're also, they moved active duty and National Guard military units to reinforce and help Border Patrol, military units to reinforce and help border patrol.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And you know some, there are people out there who will say, well, you're not supposed to use active duty military forces domestically.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You know, the continental United States, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, pos comitatus.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I understand all that, believe me, but they, they're not being used for that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Right, what they're doing is they're bolstering, they're backing up, they're allowing.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: You know, they're filling gaps.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Essentially, is what they're doing?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Right, there's nothing illegal about putting soldiers in a you know I hate saying a picket line, but that's basically what it boils down to.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You know, all strung out across the border at the crossing sites, and they can stand there and not do anything except tell border patrol, hey, there's one over there, and then Border Patrol goes and they arrest them and that's it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: That's all they're doing.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Aviation's doing the same thing.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: They send fighters down there, all kinds of stuff.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: So explain that a little bit to me.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So you can't use troops, essentially, but it's like you can't use them against American citizens.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Correct, which is like a matter of course, but they're using them against illegal aliens.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: So they can't they still can't physically actively do anything other than point them out.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Am I understanding that?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: They have no arrest authority.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you know, even when, when I was deployed multiple times, all of us, you know GWAT veterans, you know we would have interactions and we would know through bio bio data, whether it's fingerprints or retina scans or whatever we would run across known criminal terrorists, Right and?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And we had Coast Guardsmen with us.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Because Coast Guardsmen have arrest authority.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: They are sworn officers of the law.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: They can arrest people.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Active duty soldiers, unless you're a military police officer, don't have that authority.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: They are sworn officers of the law.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: They can arrest people.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Active duty soldiers, unless you're a military police officer, don't have that option.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: We don't have that ability.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So they're being used to bolster BPS.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: They're letting BPS do the work, along with whatever other federal agencies are down there helping, but they don't have arrest.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I don't even think they have detention authority and really you don't even think they have detention authority.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: So and and really you, you don't want them getting involved with that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: That was actually a big discussion a few years ago, my hometown city of Chicago, you know, the murder rate had gotten so bad.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: They were talking about putting armed, armed soldiers on street corners, which is a horrible idea, but now they can be national guardsmen and be given those types of authorities from their governor.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, right, so only national guardsmen.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: National guardsmen because they're owned by the state.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, but as soon as they're federalized, as soon as the federal government takes control, they don't have that ability anymore okay and that makes I agree, that makes perfect sense.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: We, that is not something we want.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That sets a precedent that can be easily abused.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that goes back to literally British redcoats being housed in people's houses.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, you know colonial days like that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: It goes all the way back to pre, you know, pre-revolutionary war, kind of stuff.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: There's a reason for all of it, and for good reason.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So they're down there, they so they're down there.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: They're augmenting BPS, but they're allowing those folks to do their jobs, which is all part of why, you know, as our headline says at the bottom, the border crossings are down.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Right, they're catching one.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: The interactions are lower because everybody knows don't come here anymore.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Right, the free, the gravy trains over with You're not getting free stuff and at the same, time, you know, bps is allowed, they're being allowed to do their job and they're arresting more people.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great, you know.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So you and I are kind of the same in that we look at, you know pretty much all of these topics and everything on a intellectual, factual, practical, common sense way, and you know the people on the left.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I'm a broken record saying the people on the left, but I apologize, you know we can.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I can call them tons of different things, but this is, this is where we are.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: That group of people always look at everything on the emotional level, right the feelings level, so like what benefits them?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent point.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And you know, right now it benefits them to be so sympathetic to these poor.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: What do they call them?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Undocumented migrants, illegal aliens.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And they drum up the whole.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You're separating families, you're?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: You know they've been here and they work and they pay taxes and they do Pakistan.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: That's who they focus on and you know, hyper focus on, not the fact that they are getting rid of.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: The Trump administration is getting rid of.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: You know rapists, murderers, gang members, violent criminals.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: That's who they're getting rid of.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You know and, quite frankly, if you are in this country illegally, whether you're a great guy or a terrific woman, if you're in this country illegally, there needs to be a consequence for that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And sure, it is sad when it, when you think about a family who's been here, you know forever and ever.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: But the flip side of that is, how many years did you have to do things right, like you had the opportunities?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: No, it's not easy.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: No one is suggesting that it's easy, but it is the process.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And for people who are either legal immigrants or are the children and grandchildren of legal immigrants, who who did everything the right way, the hard way, yeah, that that sympathy factor doesn't wash.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: So what would you say to somebody?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, what would you say to somebody that somebody that came to you with that argument and said you know, oh, these poor people like this border, trump's border policies are just cruel and inhumane.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Like would you just tell them, I would tell you, I would tell them and I have told them because I've had them come to me with that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Just like you, I have the same type of you know, interactions with people with opposing viewpoints.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: And you know I had a discussion with somebody about a, you know, a husband and wife been here for 30 years, still weren't citizens, and they tried to justify oh, the process is too hard, no, it's not, it's not.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: No, I don't buy it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: You'll never convince me of it, no way.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: So I have no sympathy for somebody who's been here for 30 years, still doesn't have their citizenship, and got and deport them.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Right, it's.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: The truth is.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: The truth is not being told in so many of these cases.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: There's another one that's out there right now where all the headline is is that a dad?
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: I think he's from Maryland, right, somewhere, maybe not Maryland, but no, it is Maryland.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: He got wrongfully deported and now the administration can't find him and bring him back.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Well, he didn't.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And all it says is like a dad.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And the reality is he was involved in human trafficking.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: He was a known member of, I think, ms-13.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: He had a warrant out for his arrest, right?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: So yes, he was.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: You know, he had a green card, ok, but he violated law.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: So, sorry, got to go Right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: No, he wasn't an illegal immigrant.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: He wasn't.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: He had a green card, he was doing all, but he violated the law.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Get out Right.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Same thing, but again.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: You know these people.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You know the left manipulates the system.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: They try to manipulate your emotions, separating families.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: They don't talk about the 300,000 kids that we talked about a few weeks ago, who got lost in the system.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: They don't talk about them.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Where's?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: their horror and outrage over that, Because that, to me, is one of the most horrific things we were talking about hundreds of thousands of children gone.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows, Nobody can account for where they are.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: These are kids that were loaded onto cargo planes in the middle of the night and dropped off in you know upstate New York, you know in the dead of night, and trekked out into the woods, basically, and just gone.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Where's the outreach for that?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: yeah, and listen again, it's all about manipulating emotions.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: You know that, and we're going to talk about the sect death here in a minute.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: But this is part right.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: He just I don't know if you saw this so he just got a new tattoo on the bottom of his bicep.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I did, I did arabic and I think, I think, I think it says infidel or it says non-believer.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: It says something like that, right, yeah, which I hate to break it to people.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I saw a whole bunch of those, um, you know, throughout the years in global war on terror, those things are everywhere, um, but the sect def's got it on his arm and everybody's like blast, just blasting him and oh, by the way, the same people are saying, well, and you've probably seen this too just because they have ms-13 tattoos doesn't mean like, that's not that, that doesn, that's no proof of guilt, but the sect def's got a tattoo.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: That means he hates Muslims.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And so they'll use emotion, they'll anger, whatever it is, to try and get their way and they just continue to look foolish.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And the only advice, the only advice you can, you know, give to anyone on the right who is watching this and experiencing this and doesn't have the platform or the comfort level or even the knowledge base to fight back against them, you know, I would tell you that the easiest thing you can do is to simply not engage with their emotional warfare, and you know that that's.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: If anybody could take something away from this.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I would say it's got to be that, like, do not fall for the emotional black blackmail and the warfare that they unleash on you.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: And I would love if I thought a single liberal or leftist would watch the show with a, you know, open mind.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: You know I'd love to say to them geez, can you just give discernment a try?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Like, try a little bit to take the pause and say wait a minute.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: You know, how do I know that this is true and accurate?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: How is that even possible?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Like, question it just a little bit, you know.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And the thing, question it just a little bit, you know.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And the thing, the thing that I do that I honestly dislike doing the most for show prep, is going to read, read and watch what they are saying what their perspective is, dispute it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: You know, like I just wish they would.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: But there's a gross saying something about wishing in one hand and something else in another.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Right, see which one fills up quicker.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and listen, you and I I'm not a Hegseth fan We've been saying this.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I want them to be successful.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, you know, unfortunately we could have had a show last week about the entire signal thing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Right, you know, we missed that, sorry folks.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, we haven't said it yet, it's Wednesday For us it's Wednesday 530 Eastern Time.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: We started recording.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: All right, we're about 38 or so minutes in.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Ok, so it is Wednesday, but last week week we could have talked about the sloppiness of the signal, you know, with the national security advisor, with the vice president and the Atlantic, you know, and all of that.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, and I am one that was not Hegsis.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: They're all responsible in the sense that they probably should have checked it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Who was on the list?
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Sure, you know we could talk about signal Signal's been around for quite a few years.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I personally am, you know we could talk about Signal Signal's been around for quite a few years.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I personally am, you know.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I have a Signal account.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I've been on there for a while.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I have talked sensitive not classified sensitive information on there a number of times.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: It is probably the most secure thing there is, but it is not for classified information.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, they didn't pass any classified information in that chat.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: However, it was sloppy, right, and truthfully, I know people that probably would have got fired for doing exactly what they did.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, but you know, secretary Hegseth this week has now, you know, his new thing is is leveling the physical requirements for combat related jobs within the military and listen, this is one of the toughest nuts to crack.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in all jobs to females.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: You know, the military at that point still had gender based, you know sex based standards for physical fitness.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I can tell you, throughout my entire career, when I first came in the army, the army's physical fitness test was pushups, sit ups and a two mile run.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Every single category had a different and age had a different and age had a different standard for men and women.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: They revised that same fitness test about 99, 2000,.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Somewhere in there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Actually they flipped it over Commonsensically, the original one.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: The younger you were, the harder it was.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: And then as kids became fatter and slower and didn't do as much physical activity.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: They figured out that if you had been in the army for five or six or seven years you were in better shape than most 18 year olds and there was a weird bell curve.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: But what they did do was because males and females biologically have essentially the same core, abdominal muscle structure and capability.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: They there was one standard for steps there was no male, female.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: There was one standard right Just for sit-ups.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Just for sit-ups, the run was different, Push-ups was different.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: And then, before I retired, the Army came out with this Army Combat Fitness Test which they kind of modeled after something the Marine Corps does, which was a little bit more of the lifting things, throwing things, obstacle course, obstacle course, you know, kind of overall combat fitness, dragging heavy weight and that kind of stuff.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: The problem is is that you it's very difficult, even as an infantryman, to say these are the strength, the physical fitness requirements to do your job.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: It's hard to put that in a box and say these are the minimum requirements.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And listen, folks, this is from the Secretary of Defense's perspective about males and females in combat roles.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Don't take it any other way.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: That's what he's talking about.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I will tell you that I've been around a number of females in my time who could rock, carry a heavy rock, they could run, they could do all the things that I could do, without question.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Now, those are few and far between, but they are out there.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, the hard part is to say these are the requirements for the job.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: And then, oh, by the way, you know, if anybody, whoever can meet those standards, can be in Right Now, I will tell you there's a lot of guys out there who can't meet those standards and they're going to get.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: They're going to get their feelings hurt and they're going to get their heart broken because they're not going to make it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: The question is is when you have a anyone, male or female, doesn't matter who it is.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: They joined the military.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe they meet those standards during basic training or bootcamp.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Then they get to their unit.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: They're there for maybe a year and then they no longer meet that standard.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: So do they get fired?
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Do they get kicked out?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Do you send them to another location?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Do you give them a new job in the military?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, now you're spending more money to retrain them.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: This is not as easy as set a new standard.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: It's not that simple.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, he only gave the service chiefs 60 days to figure this out.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: They've been trying to figure this out for 25 years.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: They're not going to do it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems like such a matter of course, such a baseline expectation to say, yeah, absolutely, men, women doesn't matter.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: If you want to try this, if you want to join the military, you simply have to be able to fit the fitness standard that's required.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: This is the standard.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if you're male or female, if you can hit it, you're good.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: It's so simple.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: But then, of course, they have to make everything more complicated and difficult because of feelings and being nice, right, nice.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: That's part of it too.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: But again, this is very specific about combat roles, like things I used to do as an infantryman or special operations or whatever.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Like you know, in the old days, they just literally drew a line and they said women are not allowed to do these jobs because we're not going to spend the money to try and find, you know, the females that can.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: We're also going to, not, we're not going to make, you know, concessions for them, for bathrooms and showers and billeting and you know those kinds of things.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: That was the position.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: We're just not going to do it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then President Obama opened that door, which you know it's hard to close, pandora's box.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: But so now we're kind of caught in this thing where it's like, well, we're not telling them they can't arbitrarily.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: What we are telling them is they've got to meet these physical standards, which oh, by the way, are going to be pretty arbitrary.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: And if you're told to fix it in 60 days, there's no science behind that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: That's an arbitrary fix.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, so you know none of this stuff.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: It doesn't.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: It's not an easy fix, I do.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I don't envy the service chiefs because they're going to get jammed up on this in a hurry.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: And again, I think this is a bad, this is a bad optic and it's a bad look for the sec def.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: It's a very one of my big fears about him taking this job is he has a very narrow view and an even more narrow experience and he's very biased and he's also very inexperienced and uneducated as to how the military really works.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: So is your biggest bone of contention with this the 60 days or the ruling in general?
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I think what he told them to do was figure out what the physical standards are for those combat related jobs.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, that you, you can't.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: You could put 50 people in a room that have all been in the army for 30 years and you're going to get 50 different opinions on what the requirements are to do those jobs.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you know.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: And then, what the requirements are to do those jobs?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you know.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: And then, oh, by the way, you've got to go.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Well, it's one standard, but is it?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Is it one standard?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're talking gender, but is it the same standard by age?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Like me, as an infantryman, I retired.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You know I was what?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: 46 when I retired.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm not doing the same thing.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: An 18 year old is doing, Sure, sure.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So is it one standard all ages?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Is it one standard by age groups?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Like, and again, if you've got somebody who doesn't meet the standard, do you just kick them out of the military?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Do you kick them out of their job?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Do you kick them?
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: You know, there's the question that he posed, or the challenge that he made to the service chiefs.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Seems very simple, but in practice, there are so many layers and levels to this.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: 160 days is an irrational number.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: But two, this is like you're talking about personnel decisions, you're talking about there's.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: This goes pretty deep.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I think it was just not a the way that this this was done.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I think again was a very immature way for the secretary to handle.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: It Should have been done very.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: If this is what he really wants, he should have done it very, very differently.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how could he backpedal from this, because it sounds like he's going to need to backpedal to some degree.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: How is he going to be able to do that in safe face?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know truthfully, and I think immediately following the signal debacle he kind of stepped in a little bit.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: This is two missteps in a row, so it's not going to look good.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I think probably, if he wants to deflect because Congress is going to come after him for this, there's going to be Congress members that are going to come after him for this and if he wants to deflect, all he has to do is turn around and look at Congress and go listen, you guys can't even agree that women should be part of selective service and they should be drafted.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: So don't let's not even talk about standards for service and just you know, tell them to go away.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: That'll buy him some time, but I think this is a dead end road and he's going to have a hard time figuring this one out.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: And it's going to look bad.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: What do you think is going on behind closed doors with the service chief?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want any like I'm thinking with between Trump and Hegseth.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Like do you think this is is going to cause any bad blood, I wonder, because Trump doesn't want any missteps and missteps happening here and there.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We've got.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We didn't put it on our list and so we won't really talk about it today, but maybe next week.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I would like to talk about it as I get more information A little.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not really a little bit, but there's some RFK Jr scandal brewing under the surface of things and it's probably going to bust out loud relatively soon unless they're able to contain it and do something about it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: But you know two potential problems, I guess we could say in the administration, and this is a time where he really needs zero problems.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I think Hegzeth is going to be his first firing.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really Wow Okay.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, and I cause I don't.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: I don't classify um Stefanik.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: You know he asked her to pull her nomination for the UN ambassador, but he did that to, you know, to help maintain control of Congress.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Every seat's important at this point and that's why he asked her to back out of that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I don't consider that a firing for poor performance or anything else, but I do think that Hegseth is going to be the first one to get fired in the administration.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm going to bookmark this episode in case I in.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to bookmark this episode in case I need to pull out that clip and do our told you so.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, clay's not.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: You haven't gotten him wrong, you've called him.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I'm lucky like that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll call it luck Sure.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: We'll call it luck.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Well, at least I didn't have to endure 25 plus hours of court.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I mean seriously this guy.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Five plus hours, of course.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I mean seriously this guy.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: First of all, I I generally cannot stand even the sight of him.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: He is such a arrogant, pompous, condescending idiot is what he is.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I mean that's, that is the nicest thing I can come up with to say about him yeah, you know, and this wasn't even a filibuster.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's what kills me about this.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know, the the previous record.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: He was very proud that he broke the record.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so stupid, so stupid.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: The previous record was held as because of filibuster.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Right, that wasn't even what this was.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: This was marathoning and it was grandstanding.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you to talk about how you stand for democracy.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Pardon my mouth but it's all right, it is.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: It ended Congress's work for the week Like they're doing nothing else.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they all went home after that disaster, so you know he did it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Like you said stand for democracy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Um, but you know they had some things on the docket that they were supposed to vote on this week that they didn't get to yeah, the whole thing is absurd and, and I'll be honest, I don't know enough about that process to understand why they get to do that.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Do you?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Because?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Know, because, if not, I will, I will find it and I will stick it in the show notes.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I thought I did?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I did and it had to do with the filibuster and I and that I get.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of one of those like I'm going to talk until I'm blue in the face and make it painful for everybody so that we delay this vote as long as we can, right, you know, in the sense of like, maybe we can drum up some opposition, we can flip the numbers a little bit.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just doing it because he can.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, yeah, yeah.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: This one I don't get at all.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: So 25 hours, 25 hours, and like everything else, there's some dishonesty in this, because he had two other people that came up during those 25 hours that talked on his behalf, probably for a bathroom break.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Oh right, you know.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: So he got a little bit of respite.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: But here's the other thing that nobody's talking about.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Did you hear that his driver got arrested in the middle of all this?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I did hear that.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck was that?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, because he brought a gun.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: He was unlicensed Booker walked him around past security.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: He had a gun on him in the building.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, booker, totally anti 2A, totally anti 2A.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: But you know he gets security illegally armed security inside the Capitol.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: You know, and that guy got arrested, you know, know.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: So again, it's more hypocrisy from the biggest hypocrites on the floor.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Well, how typical you know, with their, their two way stance, every single one of them.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're totally against it, but yet they're all.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: They're all protected by armed guards or bodyguards and everything you know.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: It's despicable.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I remember that with uh uh what was her name?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: beetlejuice there from a light, uh, lighthouse yes, lightfoot, laurie lightfoot, yeah I remember that distinctly, that she had, like, essentially, taken an entire uh police detail out of impoverished communities and put them on.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: You know, protecting her, protecting her home, because there were some threats against her or something.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I know some cops, I know a handful of Chicago cops and she was the most despised woman in the city and oh, by the way, they knew all the dirty secrets.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Like her, lori Lightfoot and her wife had knockdown, drag out, screaming domestic violence kind of stuff going on in the mayoral mansion that all the police kind of you know turn a blind eye to kind of stuff.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: But they hated her, absolutely hated her.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure she was awful to them, because that's the other part of their, their, their pattern.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: You know that they have.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It's just the.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Again, I go back to what I was saying about Cory Booker.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Again, I go back to what I was saying about Cory Booker.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: They all have this arrogance to them.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: This rules for thee but not for me attitude.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: The Clintons, the Clintons did it.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's where it all started.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right, because that's really like I'm thinking about it now.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: That's where I really remember it, seeing it clearly that there was definitely this I don't know like hierarchy of, or at least an attitude of hierarchy.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: And I know some guys.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I know some guys who flew them around.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, personally know some guys who flew in the Marine Helicopter Squadron, that HMX one.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I think that's what.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Hmx one is the Marine Squadronter Squadron, that HMX-1.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: I think that's what.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hmx-1 is the Marine Squadron that flies them around.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I knew some guys that flew there.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: I knew some guys who were White House comms during the Clinton administration.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I knew one guy who was Secret Service.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: She hated them, hated them all.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah she was nasty to them right.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and treated them like complete garbage.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: So that's where all that stuff started.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: It's just been carried forward all the way through.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, we'll talk about this.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Next week.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: There's an Obama book coming out.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Have you heard about this?
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: No, this is new to me.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: It lays out everything how he tanked, or was aiming to tank, kamala Harris.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Wow, oh yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Wow, oh, I can't wait.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that one next week.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I heard that this morning.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a tell-all coming out that that'll be, that'll be very, very interesting.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: But that all it all leads forward, from the Clintons right through even I hate to say this through Bush, through Obama, through Biden.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: You know it's all the same thing.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: And Booker and this guy, this security driver guy, it's the same thing.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I do whatever I want.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: You're not going to hold me accountable, but they did.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: They arrested him, they did.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they picked the wrong administration to be pulling that garbage.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Like really you think you're going to get away with that now?
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe you know last year you could.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: No problem, I'm sure they did Based on that.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: There's no question about it.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they did.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Based on that.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: There's no question about it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: They're all walking around with guns on their hips and everything, unless you're a conservative doing that.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Well, and listen, there are, there are.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I have nothing against that per se.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I mean there are conservatives who do carry in the Capitol, blah, blah, blah.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: This guy was not licensed, he was not authorized to carry.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key right there yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Again, it's the hypocrisy.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: They violated a bunch of security protocols and policies and oh, by the way, you've got a guy who's anti two way stance on top of everything else.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: So you know, that's.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: That's the issue there.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: It's not about the guns.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Believe me, I have no issue with that.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: It's just that guy in that situation.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness, we got a couple of minutes left.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Are we squeezing in this?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: last one.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: We can do this.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: This is so, folks, this is a.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: This is a big deal.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Um, because you know the U S?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Um is is.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Since post-World War II we have had an alliance with Japan and Japan has been very content, very much like Israel, with a defense force, not aable, offensive-minded military right.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Israel has the IDF, japan has the JDF.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Part of that was post-World War II, like, hey, you're not allowed to have a deployable military right.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: So they haven't and they've been very content with that.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: But it's an advanced.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: They have a very advanced military.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: We have maintained US Forces.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Japan, because it's a leaping off point for us in the Pacific, has been for years Okinawa, you know other places like that.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: We've had Marine bases, air Force bases.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: We have stayed out of Japan for a long time.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: What we haven't had is a war fighting headquarters in Japan with eyes on China, which is exactly what this is.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: We are establishing a new, larger headquarters, and I say larger in the sense of I think what's there now is a two star.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I think they're elevating it to a three star headquarters with eyes on Japan or eyes on China.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: So if the Pacific does escalate, they can flow forces in.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: We can flow forces in.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: We've already gotten established headquarters, communications are there, all of those things are there.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Right, it's tied into the forces we've got in Korea and those kinds of things.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: So, and Japan's on board with this.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, if you guys don't know your history, the Japanese, the Koreans and the Chinese all hate each other from centuries of conquering each other and that doesn't go away in that culture.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: So Japan's on board with this.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: It's the first time that they have agreed or been involved in any type of offensive military mindset since 1945.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: So it's a very interesting, that's one to watch.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's good because the US is now saying China is a priority Right, which we haven't done as well as we should have over the last couple of years.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: So it's a big deal, it's a big move for our military to do this.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: And of course you know, to state the obvious, the left is melting down, that you know they're going to cause some major fullon conflict between China and us and all that stuff.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: They're sounding the alarms, as usual.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: The panic bells are ringing and I got to admit I'm just sitting here going no, I'm not too worried about it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Trump's got it, trump's going to handle it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: It's all good, it's not something to be concerned about.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: It's actually.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, folks, if you want to look at it this way, this is the exact same thing as having a three-star headquarters in Europe or a four-star headquarters in Europe or in Africa or responsible for the Middle East.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: This is geographic, but it's focused on China.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: It's just precautionary.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: This is not a bad thing.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: China.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: It's just precautionary.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: This is not a bad thing, yeah, yeah, well.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Well, certainly we had a lot of things to watch, right.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Lots of things, that pretty much everything we talked about.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: We're keeping an eye on I'm I'm now thanks to you.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I'm most curious what's going to happen with Hegseth, as, as things progress and move along but you probably have something there, because you know it's that three strikes and you're out, thing right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he has one more thing go wrong, that could be, it could be a problem for him for sure.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: So I'll be curious to see what happens.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: No, no doubt about it, and we're going to have so many fun things to talk about for next week.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: We'll have the things that we don't even know about yet.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: But you know there's going to be stuff and things.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: There's just no question about it.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it never changes, it always moves.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: You know we, we always get something new.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, we even we pinged, you know, whatever that the book, you know the Obama book we're going to talk about that next week most likely.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: But you know, there'll be 50 more things that we'll have to choose.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: From that I'll have to choose from on Tuesday morning.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: It's on you.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: It's on you.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: We'll see if RFK Jr makes the cut next week.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I technically don't even want to talk about it.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I know I'm talking about it right now, but I technically don't even want to talk about it until there's just more information to talk about.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: You're ahead of me on this one, because I honestly have no clue what you're talking about.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little like.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to call it underground, but it's.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I guess it's a little bit underground.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: So I I'm hoping that it's nothing to be overly concerned about.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: I also, next week we got to try and squeeze in.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the daily wire.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: This is a very, very interesting stuff, so I'm sure it's not going anywhere.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: The story will be, you know, if anything, it'll be bigger next week than it is right now.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: So much to talk about, guys.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you, as always, hanging out with us.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I know Clay already told you.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I'm reminding you, we're recording on Wednesday.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: You're watching on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Combat veteran Terry Davis left a life of violence for the quiet Midwest Prairie, but a terror threat pulls him back into action in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: He makes allies and enemies as the danger unfolds.
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  Speaker 1: Relying on his combat home skills, terry faces a threat far bigger than you imagine.
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  Speaker 4: Elsa kurt's six book series captures the soul of small town life.
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