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Paul Borghese - From Pizza Joints to Crime Dramas · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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  Speaker 2: and welcome to today's episode of Cats and Pudding. And
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  Speaker 2: today I have a very special guest, mister Paul Borghizy.
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  Speaker 2: And I said it right right, Yes she did. It
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  Speaker 2: was it was a good finesse the way I said
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  Speaker 2: it perfect as I your listname sounds like a song, Burgazy.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like a sauce. It's sounds like like you
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  Speaker 2: would like order like a side source of borghese, or
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  Speaker 2: like a fine wine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like pasta Borghese instead of.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly, That's what it sounds like. So it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's like a musical last name.
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  Speaker 4: It's a well, actually my real last name is Borges
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  Speaker 4: without the H. I'm from My family's from Sicily, but
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  Speaker 4: I threw the ach in there as a as a
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  Speaker 4: as a stage name and it just stuck with So
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  Speaker 4: Borghese would be from Rome with the H, but without
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  Speaker 4: the H.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Sicilian.
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  Speaker 3: It's Sicilian. So I'm Sicilian and Bardies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we now know were.
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  Speaker 3: Call me Borghese. Everybody does.
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  Speaker 2: So. Paul is an actor for many years and I
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  Speaker 2: you're Italian American actor, So which is you know, great
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  Speaker 2: for our community, which we love that we have. We
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  Speaker 2: have all these wonderful actors in our Italian American community.
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  Speaker 2: How did you get your start?
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  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I'm always I'm always asked that question. How
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  Speaker 4: did you get your start?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: You know, when I was much younger, when I was
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  Speaker 4: in high school, I did a couple of plays. I
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  Speaker 4: always kind of had a desire, but I kind of
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  Speaker 4: did the plays because my girlfriend in high school was
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  Speaker 4: the makeup artist and took me into doing the plays.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if it was out of a
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  Speaker 4: passion for wanting to do it, but it wasn't until
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  Speaker 4: I got out of college and I opened up. I
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  Speaker 4: was in the restaurant business twice, and I hope my
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  Speaker 4: first one, which was a.
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  Speaker 3: Posta pizza joint.
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  Speaker 2: Where were you from?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was born in the Bronx. My roots are
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  Speaker 4: in Little Lily of the Bronx, Author Avenue. Our family
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  Speaker 4: business was being g clothes. It was there for almost
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  Speaker 4: one hundred years on this core in eighty seventh Street.
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  Speaker 4: It's not there anymore though, because you know, my dad's
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  Speaker 4: not here. His brothers and my cousin ran it, and
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  Speaker 4: then he sold the building and moved to California. But
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  Speaker 4: so I had this postin pizza joint with a beer
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  Speaker 4: and wine bar, you know, and my friend was called
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  Speaker 4: al Pauli's because my best friend's name was al and I.
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  Speaker 3: Was poorly so we called it al Pouli's Pizza, Pasta
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  Speaker 3: and Pizza and Boston.
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  Speaker 4: So we did a commercial like a local cable commercial,
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  Speaker 4: and it was so much fun, like between writing the
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  Speaker 4: commercial and being part of the production and doing the
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  Speaker 4: voice over and being in it that I got the bug.
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  Speaker 4: So after having gone to college and having a bachelor's degree,
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  Speaker 4: I went back to school to Center for the Media
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  Speaker 4: Arts in Manhattan to learn film and television production. At
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  Speaker 4: the same time, I went to HB Studios to study acting,
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  Speaker 4: so I was doing both at the same time. In
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  Speaker 4: my late I guess twenty I think it was about
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  Speaker 4: twenty seven or something.
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  Speaker 2: Were you married? Did you have children at this point?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, I didn't get married till I was thirty five
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  Speaker 4: years old, and I'm single and I'm single now.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're signund yeah, girl, No, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Very single then and i'm very single now. In case
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  Speaker 3: anybody wants to know, girls.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. So you so that you got the
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  Speaker 2: acting bug and then you went to school. So what
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  Speaker 2: was like, what was your first acting gig, like your
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  Speaker 2: first real acting gig.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I started out early on,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like everybody else, doing a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Of background work, a little bit of extra work.
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  Speaker 4: And and then you know, small like small parts and
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  Speaker 4: bigger movies, and then bigger parts and smaller movies. So
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of stuff I did early on
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  Speaker 4: it was with trauma. I don't know, if you know
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  Speaker 4: trauma films they did, like I was in Toxic Avenger two,
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  Speaker 4: In Toxic Avenger three, I was in class of Newcomb
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  Speaker 4: High two. I was in Troma's War. They were like
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  Speaker 4: a cult class film production, so I did a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of stuff with them. I actually was working in stunts
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  Speaker 4: at the time, which I don't anymore. Yes, I worked
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  Speaker 4: the whole summer on the movie for them as a character,
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  Speaker 4: but also being on the stunt team.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of stunts did you do?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, everything from I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Like you jump down like a building.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, lanes and stuff like a couple of stories,
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  Speaker 4: but like high falls.
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  Speaker 3: I learned. We did fire gigs.
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  Speaker 4: We did you know, of course, you know combat, hand
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  Speaker 4: to hand combat.
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  Speaker 2: That's fun. That wasn't all about the height thing. I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't handle the high thing. I'm afraid I hide.
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  Speaker 4: One time I had addressed like a woman because there
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  Speaker 4: was a woman in the movie and she had to
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  Speaker 4: like kind of go flying over this thing, and they
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  Speaker 4: put me in her well, her wardrobe and wig and everything.
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  Speaker 4: As long as you didn't see my face. It was
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  Speaker 4: like it was really I made a very ugly woman.
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  Speaker 3: So I pictures of it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people very ugly.
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  Speaker 4: One, and I was like, oh my god, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's uh, you know, I wouldn't make it in
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  Speaker 4: this world as uh, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I won't go, I won't start. Okay, although yesterday was.
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  Speaker 2: It was, yes, it was, it was very the city
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  Speaker 2: was thriving yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I had to come into the city last night because
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  Speaker 4: I had dinner with Dominic keen Acy, who came up
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  Speaker 4: with Junior and sopranos.
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  Speaker 2: He's great j from the soprano.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was going back to London tomorrow. And Alsapienza
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  Speaker 4: played Mike tlmci, who was sot of his like right
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  Speaker 4: hand man on the show. So we had dinner last
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  Speaker 4: night at a Italian restaurant in the city, and I
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  Speaker 4: forgot that it was Pride Day. So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, what's going on in the city. And
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  Speaker 4: then I was like, oh, I know what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: It was a little a little crazy. And I lived
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  Speaker 4: in greenwich Ville for over twenty years in Manhattan, so
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  Speaker 4: I saw it all, but I used to kind of
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  Speaker 4: get out of the city at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was just like too much's
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not judging. I'm just saying that the.
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  Speaker 2: Activity, it's exactly there's a lot of stuff going on.
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  Speaker 2: I just had a pride party last week. I do,
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  Speaker 2: I do one ever. Yes, it was a lot of fun. Right,
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  Speaker 2: we had a good time. What a great time.
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  Speaker 4: I had a pride party too. You did Italian American Pride?
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  Speaker 4: I always in October?
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  Speaker 2: How was that.
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  Speaker 4: Italian American cultural Yeah, I'm just kidnap changed. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: trying to, you know, lighten up the whole pride. Let's go,
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  Speaker 4: let's talk about something else pride, like the American flag.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, let's talk about like the rainbow and the sky.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the rainbow in the sky, the American flags.
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  Speaker 4: So what else you're saying? Where did I Those are
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  Speaker 4: some of my first gigs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know one of your most famous roles you
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  Speaker 2: were and you played Yogi Barra in sixty one.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, well that was probably the highlight of my career,
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  Speaker 4: getting to play Yogi berra in the HBO movie sixty one.
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  Speaker 4: Billy Crystal directed that. How was the work star cast?
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  Speaker 3: He was great.
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  Speaker 4: He was just he's like a baseball encyclopedia, so he
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  Speaker 4: knows everything about baseball. And he was so much fun
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  Speaker 4: to work with and so easy going.
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  Speaker 2: He must have left all day long.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he was so funny and he was so generous
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  Speaker 4: because there was so many extras in the you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the stands in the stadiums, and and yeah, they're
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  Speaker 4: not getting paid a lot. There's a lot of non
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  Speaker 4: union extras, and they give maybe they giving him a
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  Speaker 4: hot dog and a soda or whatever. And he would
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  Speaker 4: like get the megaphone every now and then and just
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  Speaker 4: do like stand up to entertain entertain to them.
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  Speaker 3: It was like that was what would they have to
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  Speaker 3: pay to go see Billy Crystal, right.
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  Speaker 2: That would stand up hundreds of dollars to see him
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  Speaker 2: do stand up live and then they are getting their
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  Speaker 2: own prize.
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  Speaker 4: So he would do that every now and then, which
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  Speaker 4: I thought was like really really admirable.
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  Speaker 3: And the movie won.
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  Speaker 4: We won the Best well it was nominated for, uh
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  Speaker 4: the Best Picture for an Emmy. It didn't win, but
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  Speaker 4: it had twelve Emmy nominations and we won Best Ensemble Cast.
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  Speaker 4: So technically I'm an Emmy Award winner because I was
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  Speaker 4: part of the ensemble cast.
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  Speaker 3: But it was it was a great experience.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was a great movie.
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  Speaker 4: I get it to Yogi, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Like HBO set it up for me to meet Yogi Bera.
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  Speaker 2: How was that correct. I met him before too. I
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  Speaker 2: met him Whitey Ford, and I can't remember the other
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  Speaker 2: guy's name I met on I was at the Yankee Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: It was like the Yankee Day or whatever it was
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  Speaker 2: that I met them. He was such a was it
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  Speaker 2: was all times. My friend's uncle is Whitey Ford, so
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  Speaker 2: we got to go, so it was really cool. And
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  Speaker 2: then to meet Yogi Barrow, he was such a cool guy.
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  Speaker 3: I met Whitey at the at the premiere.
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  Speaker 4: Uh so, but that was a lot of fun because
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  Speaker 4: I had to learn how to switch hit when I
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  Speaker 4: played baseball as a righty and Yogi. Uh played as
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  Speaker 4: a righty but hit as a lefty. So that was
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  Speaker 4: very hard to do and and Yogi helped me to
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  Speaker 4: do it. But if you watch the movie, we did
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  Speaker 4: so much training in baseball besides you know, studying as
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  Speaker 4: actors that you watch the movie and not one Yankee
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  Speaker 4: gets up to bat except Mantle and Marris because the
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  Speaker 4: movie was about Antela Mara's home run race, so all
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  Speaker 4: at learning how to try to you know, switch hit
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  Speaker 4: never made it to the to the screen.
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  Speaker 2: Was sorry, did you did you join a softball team?
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  Speaker 2: After that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, well, it was I didn't become a great
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  Speaker 4: switch hitter, Don't get me wrong. I thought I was
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  Speaker 4: able to, you know, pull it off. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: was one point in sign in the premiere where you know,
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  Speaker 4: the scene comes up and you hear in batting next
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  Speaker 4: number eight Yogi Berra and I'm like, oh, is wrong,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it. It jumped like to another inning
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, you know to do it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's uh, it's all good.
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  Speaker 2: But they did train you, did you get did you
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  Speaker 2: did you meet any of the Yankees of that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Like did you meet like Derek.
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  Speaker 3: A Well, they sent U to baseball training camp. I mean.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we actually went to Encino, California, I think
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  Speaker 4: it was. And some people pay to go to fantasy
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  Speaker 4: base camp. I got paid to go to.
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  Speaker 3: Baseball baseball camp, like Derek.
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  Speaker 4: And well it was like, you know, like Bobby Barry
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  Speaker 4: Pepper who played Roger Morris, was there, and Thomas Jane
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  Speaker 4: who played Mickey Manno Dominic, Lambert Doozy who's doing fantastic
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  Speaker 4: now he's another friend. He was playing Muscaur and so
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  Speaker 4: Chris Bauer was there. So you know a lot of
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  Speaker 4: like the act, the main Yankee actors were there, so
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  Speaker 4: so we had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: That must have been fun. Yeah, dude, are you a
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  Speaker 2: Yankee fan or a Met fan?
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  Speaker 3: Of course? How could I not be?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because you're from the Bronx, so so
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  Speaker 2: people don't I don't know how everybody knows this, but
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  Speaker 2: you were a Met fan because it used to be
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn with the Brooklyn Dodgers and then they went to California.
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  Speaker 2: So those are who became Met fans, and anybody who
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  Speaker 2: was like in the Bronx, I guess. I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: probably say North Queens too were in Manhattan, or Yankee fans.
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  Speaker 4: The Bronx Bombers, right, yeah, well you know, I mean, really,
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  Speaker 4: having played a Yankee, how could I not be?
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  Speaker 3: I love the Yankee fan.
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was actually sad. I was there when
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  Speaker 2: the last day that they had the old stadium, Derek
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  Speaker 2: Jeter was was was was actually that was the day
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  Speaker 2: he beat I think was Mickey Mentle's record, and it
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  Speaker 2: was postseason and that was the last time I was
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  Speaker 2: in that stadium and then they they knocked it down.
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  Speaker 2: They would build a new stadium. Was so cool, and
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting behind those iconic. You know, I was
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  Speaker 2: sitting on home plate. I was sitting why those I
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  Speaker 2: kind of fold out white chairs. I was like, can
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  Speaker 2: I just take one of them with me? I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I probably would have got arrested if I would have
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  Speaker 2: took it. But it was cool.
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  Speaker 4: It was cool to speaking of Derek Jeter, like he
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  Speaker 4: was saying that I meet some of the Yankees, Well,
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  Speaker 4: I met the old some of the old timers that
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  Speaker 4: were still alive, and I got to know Yogi very well.
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  Speaker 4: But at the premiere. It was funny because normally a
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  Speaker 4: lot of these Yankees, the current Yankees at the time
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  Speaker 4: when we had the premiere, you know, for me to
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  Speaker 4: you know, for you to say hello to one of
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  Speaker 4: them or get an autograph, you know, they were all
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  Speaker 4: very stand office sure, they're you know limited. It so
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  Speaker 4: because I was at the premiere and you know, like
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  Speaker 4: somebody like like Derek Jeter came up to me wow
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  Speaker 4: after the movie to say, hey, you know you're really
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  Speaker 4: good Yogi, Like I really enjoyed the movie, was a
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  Speaker 4: great movie, And I'm like, he's coming up to me.
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  Speaker 4: Is that you under different circumstances if I went and
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  Speaker 4: said hello, we probably wouldn't even get eye contact with me.
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  Speaker 4: Not that he's not a nice guy, but who would
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  Speaker 4: I be if he didn't, you know, know me from anything?
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  Speaker 2: Was that amazing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? It's great, great, great experience. Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a good movie. And so besides sixty one,
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  Speaker 2: what was your what would you say your Well, I
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  Speaker 2: know you said, did you love playing yoga? Was that
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  Speaker 2: your absolute favorite role or did you have something else
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  Speaker 2: that was maybe more meaningful to you that you.
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  Speaker 4: That was definitely my favorite role. I mean I played
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  Speaker 4: There was an independent film called Vito Bonafacci, which is
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  Speaker 4: a faith based film that I played the lead. And
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  Speaker 4: I played Vito Bonafacci, and that meant a lot to
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  Speaker 4: me because it was like a different type of role.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was an Italian American contractor who had
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  Speaker 4: fallen so to speak, and you know, refines his faith
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  Speaker 4: and so I had to like dig deep for that role.
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  Speaker 4: And I really enjoyed it and and the film did well,
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  Speaker 4: and you know in that marketplace, you know, got nice
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  Speaker 4: reviews in the New York Times and all that. So
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  Speaker 4: I felt like even though that was an independent film
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  Speaker 4: and a faith based film, it was important to me.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't played a lot of leads, but
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  Speaker 4: I've played a lot of you know, character actors and
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  Speaker 4: supporting roles.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, there's.
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  Speaker 4: Shows that I've been on that I'm like, wow, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm so happy that I've been on Law and Order
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  Speaker 4: so many times. I'm so happy that I was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a recurring role on Third Watch when it was on
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  Speaker 4: and now you're on your yeah Graves end. Now I'm
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  Speaker 4: my third season which I just saw you the other
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  Speaker 4: day on set, amazing FBI agent Morano. And it's a
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  Speaker 4: great role. And there's so many wise guy roles on
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  Speaker 4: the show. As you know, the show set in the eighties.
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  Speaker 4: It's about the Mob in the eighties. But William DeMeo,
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  Speaker 4: who I've worked with for such a long.
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  Speaker 2: Time, now Once upon a Time in Brooklyn, You guys
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  Speaker 2: are Once.
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  Speaker 4: Upon a Time in Brooklyn. We wrote to William and
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  Speaker 4: I wrote together. I produced it with him, and I
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  Speaker 4: directed it. But I also played a small role in
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  Speaker 4: Like when I direct, I don't play big roles.
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  Speaker 2: Be hard to do that, to play too many hats
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  Speaker 2: to do that, you know, it has to take a
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  Speaker 2: very disciplined person to do that. But also if you're
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  Speaker 2: if somebody are like me. It's a perfectionist. It's probably
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of hard for me to do all three
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  Speaker 2: things at one time. I'd have to do one thing
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  Speaker 2: to make sure.
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  Speaker 4: It's impossible to be efficient at everything. If you're doing
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  Speaker 4: everything like jack of all trades, you can't.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's just I find even when I when I'm directing,
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: if I'm playing a role, I know that there are
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: certain things that are suffering, even maybe in my own
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: coverage of my own scenes, because I'm not back there
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: behind the monitors and watching and looking at all the
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: little things that I look at. So, you know, in
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Hollywood it's different because in Hollywood, you know, there's so
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: much preparation time, there's so much pre production, there's so many,
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: so many crew members and personnel, there's so many there's rehearsals.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: So by the time they get on set, everyone knows
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: what the director's vision is. Right, So if the director's
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: the lead, Ryan Gosling is like you know, starring in
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: directing in it, the director of photography, they know what
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: division is. They have a shot list, they have storyboards,
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: so you know they're they're they're covered independently.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Because you don't have that kind of budget. It's not
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: just it's just kind of doing it as you're going, right.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: I give William a lot of credit for trying to
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: wear all these hats, but but I know that if
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: he just let himself play the lead do everything else
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: he did because he's a magician at raising money. He
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: always like We've done a number of movies together. We
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: made a movie together called Searching for Bobby d which
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: is a comedy. Carmenal lectures in it, Sandra Bernhard and
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of people. And Once upon a Time in
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Brooklyn which you mentioned, which had Amnissante and Kathy Moriarty
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: and iceed to.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: What she's wonderful and then she does a guest host
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: with me too.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: So that's right, that's right. Yeah, And I've worked a lot,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: you know with cats. As a matter of fact, last
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: year we honored her at I run an Italian Beast
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: in Rockland County and it's one of the biggest Italian
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: feasts in the country, and we honor every year, like
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: you know, I better value better come to of course
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: September fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth and Tapan, New York
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: at the Masonic Park and we honored Kathy north Ducci
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: last year, as you know.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: You know, she just mentioned that to me. Actually the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: other night I was with her at dinner. She's like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: she was like, love feast. She's like, every time I
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: talked to you, I'm telling you I'm going to another feast.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: When she came to this one, though, she was blown away.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: She's like, Paul, I never expected it to be like that.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: She said she loved that, and she told me she
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: loved the feast in Boston. She says, the Boston feast.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Was, Oh, yeah, they do. They do a good feast
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: and boys.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Because it's like old school Ainian with everybody hanging out
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: and every going to each other's houses, and they have
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the kids that are flying with like with the what
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the angel wings across the buildings. I said, I can
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: imagine leting your kid do that. I go in this
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: day and age only us. We'll let that happened. But
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: it's do you feel that as an Italian American your
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: pigeonhole to the role that you have to like, do
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you feel like you have to be a cop? No,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: because a plumb or whatever they think we.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Are, we're not getting enough of the Italian American roles.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of actors that aren't Italian
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: American are getting are getting the roles that you would
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: think an Italian American.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Would get, you know, the charisma.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, there's there's you know, all this political
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: correctness and all this diversity now and casting.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: So it's tough.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: But I listen, we as actors, you know, I don't
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: know any actor that really could genuinely say, oh, I
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: don't like being type cast.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I don't like that. I'm always playing. Listen, if you're
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: working a.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Lot, I don't care if you cast as a garbage
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: man every time. You know, be thankful that you're working,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: because do something different with that, be a different kind
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: of different. You know, I'm always happy. But yes, I've
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: mostly played you know, uh, you know, hoods and wise
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: guys and and cops detectives. I've mostly done that. But
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I've also play you know, Jewish. I've played admittedly, I
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: got my screen actors goold card by playing a nondescripted
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Middle Eastern with an accent. And as the world turns
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: on a soap opera, I played a terrorist and they
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: did me up and all that, and I had the
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: accent down and I got cast in the role, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: that earned me my screen actors goold card. At the time,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: they weren't merged unions, right, So I feel like I've
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: gotten a lot of opportunities and there's not enough out there.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: It's even harder now with technology. Before you go in
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, they'd be like a guest starring role,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: let's say, for Law and Order, and they pull in
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: like their twelve favorite guys, right, and out of those
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: twelve guys and they book a session of casting and
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: then out of those twelve guys they bring three or
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: four and for callback. Now it's a little push button
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: self tape, self tape. Okay, well, let's have our assistant
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: have this one come in, send the tape that one,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: this one, this one, push a button. Next thing, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you're up against you know, two hundred people actors from
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: all over the country instead of just local or so
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: it's become so much more competitive.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Do you find that there's more people who are wanting
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: to act now? Do you think that social media had
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a lot to do with that?
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's a good question.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Nobody ever asked me that, And you're probably right, because
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the only thing is a lot of nonsense on social media,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Like I look at Facebook and I keep seeing these
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: posts like booked it, booked it, it, booked it. I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: you know, half of that is people that are doing
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: extra work on the set of such and such again
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: for another you know, you know with and then and
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: they're not to not doing background work. Is I did
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: it back in the day too, But I mean that's
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: not that's really playing roles in movies.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: But not.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Even though it's important, like in the setup of a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: movie of course, like this, extras are important, not that
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: they're not not not diminishing that role, but it's not
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: really you're not you're not you're not using an art
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you're not acting, you're not showing your skill.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, a term that's used sometimes for as
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: opposed to extras or background is background artists. You know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: so so like as if and honestly, if you do
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: it right, you could make or break a scene because
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: if everything blends properly, it's good.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: But if you've got that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: One extra that's like looking at the camera, where was
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: overdoing it or waving their arms around with you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: in their back.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody's staring at that little spot instead.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Of the drives me crazy sometimes when I'm directing and
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing? You know, it's like
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: just be there. So some people consider you know, extras
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: just as you know, well their props or their warm bodies.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: But they do play a significant role in the atmosphere,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: in the atmosphere of the scene or or you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: or any scene when you when you do have them.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I did my first extra extra in the in the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: show the other night. It was pretty exciting.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Oh there the other night when you were at the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: bar sushi bar, yea at the sushi bar, a sushi
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: bar in Brooklyn.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, I tease my hairback up because it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: sat in the a's. I was like, just like that,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I'm back in nineteen.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you look different, uh today? But what you were
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: saying about, do I think more people getting into it?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: What happened was there was a trend that I think
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: it still happening of And I don't know if it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: with women. I think it's mostly with men where they're
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: retiring at much more reasonable ages than years. You know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: years ago, people would work like forever. People now if
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: they can afford it, especially cops, you know, they're retiring
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: with these great pensions and they're like, I think I
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: want to be an ant and they go.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Out and get a head shot.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: They're not actors, most of them don't study, but they
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: start off maybe doing some extra work and they have
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the police uniform so they're hired for those scenes and
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: they get paid action for.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: The police and next thing, you know, one thing leads
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to or another.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: They might get a role, they might get an agent.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: So you do have a lot a lot of that
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: that I see, cause I could just see it from
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Facebook and Instagram and the you know, the posts that
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: people make. I mean, I have a lot of people
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: that are friends or followers on social media that I
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: don't know, I've never met. But I just try to
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: be a nice guy and you know, accept the friendships
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: and be friendly and reciprocate. But a lot of it
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I know, and I get so many messages I can't
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: tell you. Can you recommend this? Can you help me
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: get an agent? You don't of any care? How can
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: you help me get on graves? And can you do this?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: And I I never don't answer. I would just try
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: to be nice, but it is hard because you're trying
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: to find work for.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yourselflf for you to help somebody.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: It's still a hustle for yourself.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Of course. I mean listen, I think you know you
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: always want to help somebody else. But it's like some
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: people are very intrusive. I get and DMS all the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: time from I mean just with my business. It's like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and they're texting me at it's four o'clock in the morning.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, dude, like, I'm sleepang, and they think I'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: up all night. Do you know what I should do
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: with botox? I'm like, what do you think I'm up
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: all night? Like with my with my needles in my hand,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: like what goes on? And I find that I think
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the social media has made things that they could connect
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you so easily to other people now, and then they
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: just people, I think, become more intrusive with it. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: think even though they don't mean to be. I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it's just people are just excited and they just think
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of something. And people are compulsive and I start, let
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: me write at four o'clock in the morning about a roll.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Well, they think that like if they do it on
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: social media, that they're not disturbing you because you're not right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Because I have my alerts.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I don't get alerted for anything other than text messages
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and phone calls. I don't get email alerts. I don't
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: get I don't want to be hearing my phone binging
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: all day every time there's a Facebook thing or an
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Instagram thing.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: So they people assume.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: That, you know, well, if I send you a message
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the night, you're not going to
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: see U till tomorrow, which usually I won't unless I
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: happen to be on social media very late at night,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: which I often am.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Because we're all addicted to rolling.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: They say that that average people scroll as far and
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: as long as the Empire State Building in a day.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I listen, I don't even like to is that crazy?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I even like to look at my screen time because
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I look at it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, seriously think about that. That's it's not crazy
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: that an average person scrolls up that as whole as
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the Empire State Building in a day.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Oh is that what you meant?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy that you're scrolling up that much? You know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: in a twenty four hour period? That is not not
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: stick about that's crazy. So as many times you're just
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: scrolling up as high as you're going up in the
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Empire State Building. I was when I saw them. I'm like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you know what, but I could see that. Especially with
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the kids, They're on the phone all day long. They
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: can't stop it. Like I tell my kids, look up,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the world is three is just five inches up ahead
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: of you, not down here.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I wish I could get credit for a step for
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: every time I get a scroll, because it's the days
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: of it used to be, the days used to be
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: of like how many miles did I run today? Now
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: it's like how many steps did I take today? Like
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: you know, that's how things change from you're getting older steps.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I was like, if I get a step for every
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: scroll I would I take that, that'd be in great shape.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: We'd be in good shape. That I know I would be.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I know I would be in great shape. That What
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: do you feel like if you if you were going
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to if you are talking to somebody who is aspiring,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: what would your what would your best advice be?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Do something else? And I'm serious, people come to you
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: all the time. Could you talk to my son, can
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: you talk to my nephew, my niece, my whatever?
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm like I'm if you want, I'm going to
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: be completely honest with them, and they go, what do
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: you mean? I go, I'm going to tell them that
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: if there's anything else they could do that would make
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: them happy, do it. Because you know, if you want
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: to have a normal life and you want to have
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: a get married and have a family of children, have
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: security and have a regular paycheck and you know, be
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: able to have you know, a pension and all these
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: things that come along with that that they that they
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: give you, do something else because this is so unstable.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've been very very fortunate. I feel very
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: blessed that I've had a good career and then I've
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: been able to make a living, whether it's in front
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: of the camera behind the camera. But I'm sure if
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I had done almost anything else and put the same
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: amount of time into it, that I'd be so much wealthier,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: because you know, there's certain things that if you put
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: the time in right, you're going to get the results of.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: It's not like that would acting because you know, it's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like you have to be ready, but
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you have to be ready for.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: When your number comes up.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: But it's the talent is important, so it's so much
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: of it as who you know. I mean, so much
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: of the casting is already decided on. I mean, if
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: you think about it, if there's a small role in
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: a film, it's the clerk at a hotel, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: why is the producer of the direct they're going to
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: give it to a stranger. Can you imagine how many
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: people they know that they think are let me give
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: it to this one, let me give it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: To that one.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: So a lot of the casting notices that come out
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: and the breakdowns that our agents get, they're listing roles,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: but they're already so they're spinning our wheels, you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: to send in self tapes for these things when you
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: know most of it's already cast and people and and
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: and casting his package. So if you go to an
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: agent you and you have a you want, like a
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: certain lead, you know, let's just say it's Cameron Diaz.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Now that agent has so many other people they represent,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: so they're going to read the script and say, oh,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: you know, I have this other client. I know there's
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: a two three day roll for this. You could consider
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: this person. Now, of course, if you have other people
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: that are just as good or if not better, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: you're going to say, well, you know what, let me
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: stay on their good side because I might at some
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: point need to use the favor up and say.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Could you please have Cameron camera do this?
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: And so you're going to cast more of their people
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: with a bigger agency because you're getting feathers in your
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: cap by doing that. I know that as a director
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: because there's times we've cast people and they've pitched us
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: people for the small roles and I'm like, yeah, did.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You ever cast somebody that you really did? You really
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: wanted somebody else for that reason?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Like did you all have to the things that that
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: things that have been pushed on me as a director
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: have been putting people in roles because of investors, whether
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: it's an investor or an investor's daughter or things like that,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: like oh, we got to put them in, you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you gotta, we gotta put them in, We gotta. You
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: know that I told them I was gonna you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: you know uh, And I'm like, god, you know, it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: like every little role is important, every moment, every nuance.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Well, of course, it's a story and your and you
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: have a vision of what when you're when you're when
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you're making a movie. It's like it's a vision board
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and you're looking and every piece has got to be
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: has got to work, and it's gotta it's got to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: fit in and if it does, one piece that doesn't fit,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the whole thing falls apart.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Right, we have an unknown natural moment and it's like why,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: you know, I always watch movies now and I with
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: TV shows and I'm like, okay, that was a favor role.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: That was a favorite role, Like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I know I could just tell now, yeah, I can
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: just tell us, like why would they cast this person?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Like what could have possibly possessed them? It's got to
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: be there's.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Something got to be somebody's cousin, some daughter, brother in law,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: whoever it is, or somebody who gave.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: It a lot of that a lot on like a
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Lifetime network and Hallmark.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I find it, you know. I see these people and
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's somebody's somebody's brother, that's somebody's daughter.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: You know, it's my.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Daughter wants to be an actor? Can you put it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: on place? And like it's like they couldn't have cann
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: act to save their life. I mean, listen, I get that,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and I get in the as a business person. Also,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I get that in the business, and you need the
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: money to make the r to make the film and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: do it. However, if it's not gonna work, it's not
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: gonna work. And then what's gonna happen is you're gonna
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: have a product that's not going to sell. So what's
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the point of doing it. You're gonna lose money if
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: you don't do it right. So some you have to
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: do it right, but I understand what Sometimes you might
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: have to compromise at some point. But hopefully you get
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: people that can you can halfway work with and and
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: work with them. Did you ever feel like that something
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you said to an actor, let's say that was on
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: on the movie, will help them be a better do
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: better in the scene like that you like made a click?
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, well a lot of people have told me,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: and I'm flattered.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I could see you being very patient and very good
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: with with training like and and and giving and giving
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: like a young actor like Okay.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I think I am because I'm all about making the
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: actor comfortable, and I think your best performance has come
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: when somebody's comfortable, not nervous, doesn't feel the pressure. So
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I've been told and I'm flattered by by a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: of people that I'm a director's an actor's director. So
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: some directors are very technical. They're worried about the technical aspects,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: and they're not really working with the actor to help
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: mold the story, work with their character. Well, they're just
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: not well, they're just assuming that the actor prepared in
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: such a way that's correct for the story. It's also
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: different when you write it and directed, because when you
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: write it and directed, you have a much stronger vision.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: So when you're watching the actor, you're like, no, no,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's more like this, it's more like that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: But I've I've always been very patient with the act
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I mean I think I think I am very patient
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: with the actors, and I give them, you know, as many.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Takes as I can.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: You know, every every now and then I go bad
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: on a set, but you have to go bad every
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: now and then, so people just know you haven't and
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: you said, they just don't think you're like mister patience,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: right or you know, especially when you've got to move
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: along the the crew and you know you're losing time
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: and you're falling behind and all that. But I love
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: working with the actors. I mean, that's like really my
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: favorite part of it. I love every department. And that's
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: why I like directing so much, because you know, you're
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: involved in every aspect of this.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: You know of the production, you know the wholes.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at everything from you know, noticing that really
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: cool color you have in your background right now that
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: like that purple. So whether or not this isn't the
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: shot and.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't be, it's half empty half full.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: But that's when I yelled too, and I'm like, what
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: is the bottle of poems and the script doing in
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: the shot?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I have to notice this.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Someone else noticed this. Yeah, but it's a lot. It's
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a lot for being to be directed to notice all
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: that because so many things.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Do you need people, you have to be able to delegate.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: But the current production that I had mentioned to you,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: we just finished shooting a pilot episode and it's going
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: to be airing soon and I wanted to bring you
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: a bag of.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: This beef jerky because oh, I was.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Going to ask him that this is the jelhouse jerky.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of control on that. In the
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: way of my cousin Tony Darrow. I'm sure you know
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: he's also on Graves end, he's been good Fellaws, sopranos,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Mickey Blueyes, is your cousin? Tony's my cousin. Yeah, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: mean his real name is boor jay Z. Also, but
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: back in the day, he's quite a bit older than me.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: So back in it, well, his father had him when
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: he was in his twenties. My father didn't have me
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: till he was like forty six, So that's why we
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: have a big age difference. So he's more like an
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: uncle to me. But Tony and I, oh, back in
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: the day, when he was, you know, doing his comedian
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: and singing work, his agent said, borg Z people are
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: screwing it up, the same Borges borgas, we're gonna call
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: you Tony Darrow. Tony said, okay, So he changed his
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: name as a stage name too. But we recently wrote
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: and produced and I directed a TV pots called The
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Jailhouse Jerky Crew. And what happened was we got involved
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: in this company. We're shareholders in a beef jerky company,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: so it's called Jailhouse Beef Jerky. Tony's on the cover
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: of the Beef Jerky. So instead of doing like commercials,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: we said, well, let's do a series incorporate the beef
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Jerky as a product placement in the series to promote it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: So it's really.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Funny because and I was able to hand pick the cast.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: You know, my cousin Tony Darrow's playing the lead. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: played a role in. I didn't want to, but they
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: wanted me to. Lewis Vannaris in it, Chuck Zito. Chuck
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Zito's in it to come into sid Rosenberg. Yeah, we
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: put William DeMeo. I put him in a much much
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: different role than it's something that he's never played before.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: When you see it, you're gonna crack up. Christian DeMeo
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: his son. So I hand picked the cast and wrote
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: it knowing who was playing those roles. So that was
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't I mean, I didn't have to force anybody
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: in except for like you know, like extras, like you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: when it became the social club scenes, forget it. Everybody
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: wants to be in the social club scene to be
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: a wise guy. So it's like, you gotta put this
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: guy in, you gotta put that guy. So I worked
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: with that to try to make it look not look
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: too crowded. But it's really funny, and it's.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: It's you know, you get some of the people who
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: hang out in the.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I mean some of the names I
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: just mentioned. Oh yeah, yeah, we have some some of
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: those guys. Peter Gadio is also in uh in the jailhouse, Jersey.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Guy.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: He's a great guy, and he's he's very good and
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: he plays p D muscles and.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Perfect for him and he looks great for his age.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: My god, Oh yeah, he's.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: In He's in great shape.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: He's in terrific shape. Wow. Right.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Lewis Vanaria's it was really really funny, and so it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: a mob comedy and it doesn't take itself too seriously.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And what's funny is what happens is these guys, the crew,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: they get out of jail and then the boss, Tony Darrow, says,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: all right, you guys are out. You did the right thing.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: You kept your mouth shut, you didn't rat. Now you
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: got to start earning again. Come up with some ideas.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: So they're coming up with ideas and stupid ideas, funny ideas.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: It's all very comical. And then Lewis Vnarious character who
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: plays Loopy Louis, he says, I got an idea. He goes,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: there's a tractor trailer coming through with high end electronics.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: He goes, how about we hijacked that, and he goes,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Christmas is coming, so it's a good idea do that
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: next thing, you know. He calls the boss and he says,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: could you come down to the wear ause I got
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: good news and.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I got bad news. He goes down. Well what's the
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: good news?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: He goes, well, instead of just one track the trailer,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: there were two, so we hijacked too. He goes, oh
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: that's great. Well what's the bad news? He says, well,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: they weren't filled with highland, high end electron like we thought.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: They were filled with beef jerky. So the Boss is like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: beef jerky. Therefore, we're gonna do with with with with
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: you know, when you unload these two track to trailer's
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: gonna have a warehouse full of beef jerky. So they
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: start trying to come up with ideas of like, we
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: can't sell it because it has got bar codes on
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: it and labels, so they repackage it and put the
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: bosses picture on the cover, and he's pissed it first,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: but then it starts becoming like successful, So now we
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: have you know, so it's an ongoing series now and
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: it incorporates you know, I was gonna bring you a
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: bag too, so I held it up right now promoted
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: and and I forgot.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I'll shout it out for you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: It's a very it's a very good called Jailhouse Beef Jerky.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: It's actually on the shelves now. So when people see the.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Show, they're not gonna where is selling right now?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Well, it's gonna be in shop rights and it's on
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Walmart dot com and Amazon dot com.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: What a great You're gonna start sales, sales pitching for
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: people who are gonna do instead of having commercials doing that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: That's a great idea.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, people see the show, they would never think
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: there's a real product. They just think it's far their storyline.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: When they find out, well, I mean I could buy
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: that on the shelves, they don't want to buy it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: And then when you walk down the supermarket aisles and
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: you see like, you know, big display unit with all
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the beef jerky and advertising the show, you're gonna say, oh,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I gotta watch the sho I'm gonna pick up a
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: big And.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: That's a great idea. Do you know I did something
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: someone it said, you know, you know, of course, uh,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the Daily Wire, do you know the he is the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: president of the company, did the whole thing about the raises,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: The Man Raises. You ever see that? And it went viral,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So he gleect. I think they abandoned them because they
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: were a Republican station, and so he made his own raises.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: But he made it like a like a movie about
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and it's a commercial and it got like twenty million views.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: You watch to see it's I'll send it to you.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: It's great, but it sounds something like that. But what
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a great way to have make a product and then
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and then like you know, commercialize it. And then he
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: sold a lot of raises and it's like on a
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: million maybe.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: That's going to that that company that has the razors,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: it's called the Man Raises.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: His name is it the Man or his name?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: It's not his name, it's called think of it right now.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I know I started getting those razors that are.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Jermy is raises, Remember I get it. Yes,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it's Jeremy's Raises. That's that's his name. Yes, he's the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Daily Wire.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: You're very good at this, by the way. Thank you.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: She's a good host.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you very good, natural right naturally, this that it
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: is coming from this from my my a great actor
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: right here? Tell him?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And you look beautiful, you really do. I love that color.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: That really is.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: We look like we're going on a on a honeymoon.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Honeymoon. Where were going?
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know wherever you want to go? Well, you
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: tell me to Sicily. I love to go to Sicily.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: We'll go to Sicily. You look like you fit in.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I totally fit in Sicily. I'm Sicilian, I'm from I'm
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: from Costa Toronto. You see say, do you speak a time?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I wish I did. I was, and I was the
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: president of the Old of Italian American Actress for four years.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I love that back and when it was, you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: more of an entity, uh you?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But you weren't a paisonic coon though, too.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Don't let me start Paisono con. What was it con?
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: There was Sopranos Con. There was a mob movie con,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: which I was booked and paid for to be there
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: and sign autographs and all that. But when I heard Python.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Con, but a lot of people were there the I
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: was learning Bronco Bronco was there. I couldn't believe it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: She was there. Yeah, but she was there. Katy was
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: there that you get there there, I met the whole cast.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Katy was laughing at me because she's.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm not going to knock anything because you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: there's people that worked Hord and'm putting that together, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: there's people I know that were there. But just Paison
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Con I don't think it was all about Italian American
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: culture and everything Italian. I think it was a little
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: it was kind of a it was more like it
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: was more of a goomba event. People thought of it
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: as that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: She thought it was more caricature of what you want
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: to do. Yes, I see you're like that. You sound
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want it to say that you're like as
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: old as my grandmother, but you sound like my grandmother
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: because she thinks that like Italians should be known for
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the not not the gumba version of being Italian, but
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you know, for art and for food, and you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: for for culture, like our culture, because we're not just
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: all gangsters.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: And she's right, and it's not just our generation that
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: thinks that. I mean, there's my genera.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I feel the same way. I don't think that we
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: should and I don't I don't want to be equated
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to everything about the Sopranos. That shouldn't be like, not
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that I don't love the Sopranos, I'm not saying that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: but that's not what only Italians are that, yeah, but.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Just just the people.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think everyone knows that Italian Americans have
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: contributed so much to this country.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: We built this country after culture too.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, they just embrace the mafia genre.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: You know, it's romance in movies and TV shows. And
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: it's not like it's inaccurate. I mean, it's part of history.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: We can't deny.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: No, we're not going to deny it. But that's not
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: only what we're about.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: It's not but it's always going to be there.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: And but we're okay with it as Italians because we
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: can laugh at it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: But you know what, if there was another culture, they
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: would be offended over it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Well that's the difference. I mean, you know, you you
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: can't say this about about this culture or that nationality
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: or this religion. But you know, whatever the Catholics take,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: take all the crap they do. The Italians just roll
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: with the punches. But you see that a lot of
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: these other people and I don't want to start getting
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: political because I never I really don't talk politics. But
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: you have certain groups that are looking for retributions and
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: things like this and handouts and all that. You know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Italians were very very discriminated.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so bad.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: And then when they first came here, there were ads
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: that said, no Italians applied.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You know where WOP came from, without paper, without papers,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: that's what we're called. My father came here from front
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: it was. He came here from Sicily nothing. They had nothing,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: lives in tenements in the Lower East Side, no running
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: water that they lived in poverty. This is pow that
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and they were thankful that they were here.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Well that's the difference Italians. They came here to be Americans.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Nobody nobody else comes here to be an American.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: They wanted to learn the American ways. They were teaching
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: their children. No, no, you know, you know the language,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: but speak American English.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Right, they were telling their kids.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And we didn't.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Instead of us complaining and looking for retribution, and all
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: we did was make our own way, is Italian Americans,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: and become successful, you know, as a culture, and moved
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: on and we show.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: The American dream really exists because in a generation my
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: father went from having nothing to his children being successful
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and having businesses and homes and all going to college
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: and everything. So it's like, how do you say that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I was reading something about our speech Ronald Reagan game,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and it was such a beautiful speech. I'll just give
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: you a quick part of it. It said, you go
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to any country. You could go to Germany, You're never
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: going to be a German. You're going to go to French,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: will never be a French. But when you come to America,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you're an American. And it's so true and that and
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: that's such a beautiful thing to think about. When you
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: come here, you become an American, and that's and that
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: you can't It's such a beautiful thing. And we, I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: think as Italian Americans embraced that, and we're proud to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: be an American. My father fought in the war like
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and and and he didn't complain. He didn't say, my god,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I I came here, I had nothing, I lived in poverty. No,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: he got up and went to work and built his
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: business and did what he had to do every day.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: But we want they wanted to be America's not very
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: few to come here now, come here wanted to be
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Americans or even agree with our ways.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: No, they don't agree with our ways.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I'm in here just to get what we have to offer.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: You know, It's true.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I think that you know, I'm I'm I'm hoping that
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you know, things are shifting. I hope, I'm I think,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: but I think that this this world they needed, especially
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the kids, need a big wake up call.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I think after that debate, I mean, Biden really
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: proved that he's really going to really rebuild this country
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: and make it such a great country again.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I just have to say.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: That he answered all the questions.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Now, he answered the questions. He knew all the facts.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: That was her second line.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It was answer it was crazy and.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: You knew all the facts, which he didn't.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about that. It's okay, It's okay. Everybody
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: knows it now they you can't even hard it anymore.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I'm voting for Miley Cyrus anyway, so it doesn't matter.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I'm voting for myself. I think I'm going to run
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: with Miley.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: If you're out there and you're watching this, you you
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: have al I used to not even like you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with Miley Cyrus. I don't know why you
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: listen to music her music.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I just think she's love. I love her all right, Miley,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: if you're out there you have.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: She's so sexy. I have to say it. She's so sexy.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: You have a date with mister, She's going.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: To come running to go out with me.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Why not? You're a handsome dude, well to do Listen Italians,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: you know where we got the charisma totally. You're better
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: than any any country singer. Paul, don't worry.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Singing. I can't do that.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I bet you you can if you try well, you
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: could do everything else.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Though, No, I can't do everything else.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling you could do it well. You
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: could cook right because you.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: At a restaurant. Yeah, but I wasn't the chef, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I still.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I was the front man that I could believe that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: I want to went over to the tables to talk
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: to everybody and make everybody feel you know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: That's total. That would be totally your role. If I
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: own a restaurant, that would be totally mine.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: No, it's of course, because you're talking to the people
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: with the people that's all. That's what it's all about.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Do you miss that ever?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoyed it, and I was in business twice.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: The second time. I also had a restaurant in Piermont,
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: New York, which was originally cool the Riverside Cafe now
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: is cool, the Sidewalk Bistro. So I was there for
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: over five years. But doing you know my career as well.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: I was like a you know, part owner there.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I loved it. But it's a very tough business.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Too many hours.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: It's it's a tough, tough business.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: You have to have a love for it or be
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: born into it or be addicted to it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: It's very it's a lot of it's a lot of work.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know how chefs do it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I just it's it's a lot of work. My brother
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: in law and my sister is in the business. It's
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: a lot. I don't I don't know if I could do.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, even though my business is hard, but it's rough.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Do you ever one last question? Do you ever regret
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that you didn't do something else that could have made
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: you more money than being an actor? Do you ever
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: regret that you didn't go down a different area because
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: you said before that you could have went down a
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: different avenue and made maybe you know.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: No, I can't say that because it's not just about that,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, everything I've done will be
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: around forever. So every time I play an acting role,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: every time I direct something, every time I produce something,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: every time I write something that's published or produced, it's
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: going to be around forever, especially now with streaming. I've
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: done things many years ago that I thought were you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: dead and buried, and now they're resurfacing, resurfacing, resurfacing. So
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I don't have children, but you know I have nieces
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: and nephews and great nieces and nephews, and yeah, you're
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: leaving a little bit of a legacy. That's like, you know,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: my uncle or my brother or my whatever my friend
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: was did this that. So you you have this trail
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: of accomplishments that are always going to be there even
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: when you go.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: You know, if I was if I was selling.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Microphones, maybe I discovered the best microphone ever and I'm
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: a billionaire, right, but who's gonna know that's all?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe remember that I.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Discovered the you know what, I think I would rather
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: discover a microphone or become a billionaire.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't have been an actor. No, but I'm happy.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I'm happy.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: I feel blessed with my career that I've had that's
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: still going on. And listen, as long as the work
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: keeps coming, I'll keep taking it doing it well.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you came on my show today. I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: love him. He's the best.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: When are we going on our honeymoon?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to go tonight.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I hope you got that tonight.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Back to cool and see if you can get on
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: the phone padress like this.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: We could just look.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: We look like we're ready to go.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: We don't have to pack, we'll just buy everything we
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: get there.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love your type of that's my
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: type of guy. You're my type of guy. I love that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being on my show today.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And please tell everybody what is where where we could
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: find you? Your social media and what the next thing
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: that you're going to be on that you are going
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to have out? So I know the Jelhouse Jerky Crew
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: and grave them, but is there anything else that is
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: going to be coming down though?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: My social media is basically my name across the board
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, my website is Poolburgazy dot com. It's very outdated,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: but there's a lot on there. You know, on Facebook
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: is Paul Barghazy on Instagram as Poolburgazy. I don't have
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: to do the real or the official or all that.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I have a YouTube channel, pully b YouTube, but there's
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: not that much on it. As far as what's coming up.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: We're you know, we're moving forward with the jail House
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Jerky Crew, so that's gonna be a serious So I
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: have to with my cousin Tony Darrow, we have to
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: we have to keep writing and now start producing, you know,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: more episodes.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Of course, we go back.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: In on Gravesend in uh probably August, and I have
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: like a few things brewing that I really don't want
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: to say anything about the Jinkstone because you know, there's
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: so much is like speculative and developmental.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: But there's some really good things I think coming up,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna it's gonna be a good rest of
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: the year. But my Italian Feast, I really want people
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: to come. You have to come, Okay, just follow my
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: social media. It's in tap Han, New York. It's September fifth, sixth, seventh,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: and eighth, and I have everybody performed that you know,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: I mean Louis van Louis Venari performs with his band
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Al Sapienza. Uh, Stephen Maglio does Sinach, Deborah Renard dominic
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Ui and Ac performs the Beautifully. We have all these,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the actors that are performers.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I can't say yet who we're honoring this year, but
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: it's I know who I want to, but I haven't
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: called him to spoke speak to them about it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'll be I bet I better be invited. I'm coming.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: So everybody missed the Paul and everybody please follow him
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: on his social media and check out the dates for
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the feast, and thank you for tuning in. And please
• 49:31
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• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Everyone have a great day. This is Katson Pudding