Latest / Brian Thomas / IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Fifty five CARSD Talk station a time next hell enjoy
- 0:05Speaker 1: sometimes some levity, but also interesting conversation with iHeartMedia aviation
- 0:08Speaker 1: expert Jay Rattlift Jay, Welcome back to the fifty five
- 0:11Speaker 1: Carce Morning Show. My friend is always great having you
- 0:13Speaker 1: on the show.
- 0:14Speaker 2: That's good to be here, brother.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I got a kick out of it. This is no curveball.
- 0:19Speaker 1: You got a great list of topics to talk about.
- 0:21Speaker 1: But headline from the Wall Street Journal, Dan Siel reporting,
- 0:25Speaker 1: dateline the fourteenth, the futile campaign to get people to
- 0:30Speaker 1: dress better on planes. Sub Captain. US government thinks onboard
- 0:35Speaker 1: behavior will improve if passengers ditch the pajamas. Good luck
- 0:39Speaker 1: with that.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Well, you know, there is some there are studies that
- 0:45Speaker 2: suggest for people that work at home, if they get
- 0:48Speaker 2: up and go through the same regiment of getting themselves ready,
- 0:52Speaker 2: getting shade cleaned up, ready to go, put on their
- 0:55Speaker 2: professional tire, then go to their office that even though
- 0:58Speaker 2: they're working at home, they've got that set, they're in
- 1:02Speaker 2: that business mode. When you're working in your pajamas or shorts,
- 1:05Speaker 2: whatever might happen to be. You know, some people think
- 1:07Speaker 2: that that's kind of a relaxed setting, that kind of
- 1:10Speaker 2: leads to some relaxed results. You know, you really don't know.
- 1:13Speaker 2: But look, there's no way that we're ever going to
- 1:17Speaker 2: legislate or change the behavior of people. And you know
- 1:19Speaker 2: that so well, Brian, You've talked about it for only
- 1:22Speaker 2: your entire life about you can have any rule law
- 1:25Speaker 2: on the book. It's not going to dictate how people
- 1:28Speaker 2: act and respond. And sadly that's the case. If if
- 1:31Speaker 2: we could come up with a nice incentive, you know,
- 1:34Speaker 2: like the best address gets a free ticket here there,
- 1:37Speaker 2: I mean, you know, maybe you could entice people to
- 1:39Speaker 2: consider it, but unless you give them something in returns,
- 1:42Speaker 2: we're just not going to do it.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard people lax cltiic. I remember the days
- 1:46Speaker 1: when men wore suits and ties wherever they went. You
- 1:48Speaker 1: look at a ball game, people wore suits and size
- 1:50Speaker 1: well you know what, as like the only set of
- 1:52Speaker 1: clothes they owned. Things were really tight back then. You
- 1:55Speaker 1: didn't have five suits to choose from one every day.
- 1:57Speaker 1: You were the same day of thing every day. So
- 2:00Speaker 1: moving if you stay far enough away from them visually, yeah,
- 2:03Speaker 1: look great, But the closer you got, the less of
- 2:06Speaker 1: a good idea. That was anyway, Jay, in.
- 2:08Speaker 2: The early days, Brian, American Airlines I'm talking about like
- 2:11Speaker 2: the thirties would pick you up in a limousine, take
- 2:14Speaker 2: you to the airport just because you had a reservation
- 2:16Speaker 2: one of their flights. Wouldn't that be cool?
- 2:18Speaker 1: You were among the holy POLOI back then if you
- 2:19Speaker 1: could afford an airline ticket.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyhow, Delta with what a chance of something going wrong?
- 2:26Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh god, yeah that's right. I forgot. Air safety
- 2:28Speaker 1: was not up the snuff back then. Computer nowhere near
- 2:33Speaker 1: no ils than those places, Brian.
- 2:36Speaker 2: The flight attests back then had to be nurses.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Did they really?
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yep?
- 2:41Speaker 1: I see that makes perfect sense.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And when you see how those planes were put together,
- 2:46Speaker 2: it makes an incredible sense.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Three eyes, assuming the flight attendants survived. All right, I
- 2:53Speaker 1: have to sign.
- 2:54Speaker 2: A medical farm before I get on. Yeah, it's a
- 2:55Speaker 2: medical or Leaves just engaged.
- 2:57Speaker 1: That flavor of liability Delta. Delta Airlines CEO not happy
- 3:02Speaker 1: with Donald Trump's credit card interest rate cap does sound
- 3:05Speaker 1: like a rather Democrat kind of idea, capping what corporations
- 3:09Speaker 1: are doing.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it either, But you know, Delta
- 3:12Speaker 2: just reported record profits more than a billion dollars for
- 3:16Speaker 2: a single quarter. And look, you and I both know
- 3:19Speaker 2: that wasn't made by us lying back and forth at
- 3:21Speaker 2: Grandma's house. Much of that revenue is driven by those
- 3:24Speaker 2: credit card agreements that they have that for Delta's tied
- 3:27Speaker 2: into their Skymiles frickin flyer program. And that's when the
- 3:30Speaker 2: CEO of Delta at Bastian, we're reacting to President Trump's
- 3:33Speaker 2: mentioning of capping interest rates and credit cards, saying oh, no, no, no,
- 3:37Speaker 2: that would be bad for the economy, is what bed
- 3:41Speaker 2: Bastian said. Brian. When you consider that not a single
- 3:44Speaker 2: major airline would have been profitable in the year twenty
- 3:47Speaker 2: twenty four without the income from those credit card partnerships,
- 3:51Speaker 2: you recognize just how tied into the airlines profits those
- 3:57Speaker 2: credit cards agreements are. And it's just amazing in fact
- 4:02Speaker 2: that the Delta employees are so happy because you and
- 4:05Speaker 2: I may talk about this before, but on Valentine's Day
- 4:08Speaker 2: is the day every year that Delta, when they've got
- 4:10Speaker 2: a profit, they share that with their employees through a
- 4:13Speaker 2: profit sharing program. And I believe they're going to be
- 4:15Speaker 2: getting four four and a half five weeks of pay
- 4:18Speaker 2: as a bonus thank you on Valentine Iday. So that's
- 4:22Speaker 2: because of the profits that were driven again back to
- 4:25Speaker 2: these credit card arrangements.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Wow, that's a pretty nice thank you, very nice thank you, Although.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Nowhere billions of dollars in profit sharing.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Show nowhere near the bonus levels that Joe Strecker gets
- 4:39Speaker 1: every year. Because we'll bring back, we're going to be
- 4:43Speaker 1: talking a little bit about Boeing gets some more bad news.
- 4:46Speaker 1: They were aware of a possible defect that led to
- 4:48Speaker 1: a crash. That sounds familiar. Plus, get the hell out
- 4:51Speaker 1: of the cargo apartment compartment before the plane takes off.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Got that in a hoole up more with Jay righttlift,
- 4:58Speaker 1: don't go away and be right back fifty five KARC.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Steve Perrins god KRC the talk station.
- 5:05Speaker 1: I've never been in a cockpit before. Jay Ratliffe has,
- 5:08Speaker 1: he's I heard. Media aviation expert joins this program every
- 5:11Speaker 1: Thursday beginning at eight thirty for a few segments on
- 5:13Speaker 1: of course, matters related to air and air travel and
- 5:16Speaker 1: of course, potential legal liability. Boeing is always having problems.
- 5:19Speaker 1: You bring that up all the time, and I guess
- 5:22Speaker 1: they're well, are they implicated in this Louisville plane crash.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I know, we have an update from the NTSB on
- 5:28Speaker 1: this one, Jay Ratliffe, what's the story.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Yeah, And within that update from the National Transportation Safety Board, Brian,
- 5:35Speaker 2: they found a service letter that Boeing sent to airlines
- 5:39Speaker 2: on February seventh, twenty eleven. Now, all those years ago,
- 5:44Speaker 2: all those years ago, Boeing told airlines that the company
- 5:47Speaker 2: was aware a four previous bearing race that's a part,
- 5:51Speaker 2: but bearing race failures on three different airplanes. Now, Boeing
- 5:56Speaker 2: had seen these fractures of the part and actually with
- 5:59Speaker 2: this part, splitting it two and moving out of place.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Now keep in mind that this specific piece helps to
- 6:05Speaker 2: hold the engines in place on the wing. Boeing what. Yeah.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Boeing went on to say to the airlines that their
- 6:11Speaker 2: review of that bearing failure, in their words, would not
- 6:15Speaker 2: quote would not result in a safety flight flight condition
- 6:20Speaker 2: in the quote. So obviously, the deaths of fifteen people
- 6:23Speaker 2: in Louisville in November certainly suggests otherwise. But look, let's
- 6:26Speaker 2: keep in mind that the Federal Aviation Administration was completely
- 6:29Speaker 2: aware of all this, and they could have called easily
- 6:33Speaker 2: for airlines to replace or increase the inspection rate of
- 6:38Speaker 2: those questions or those parts in question. So but they
- 6:42Speaker 2: elected not to do so based in part on Boeing's position,
- 6:46Speaker 2: and it could be also based on the fact that
- 6:48Speaker 2: airlines were pushing back saying, look, it would take a
- 6:51Speaker 2: lot of time and money to pull these airplanes out
- 6:53Speaker 2: of service, dig into this part to find out and
- 6:57Speaker 2: test it to see if these parts are still good.
- 7:00Speaker 2: But you know, if it's true that safety is our
- 7:03Speaker 2: number one priority, and every airline says that, and I
- 7:06Speaker 2: laugh every time they do because it's not the truth,
- 7:09Speaker 2: then there would have been no question. The same way,
- 7:12Speaker 2: when the Boeing Max crashes were happening, the easiest thing
- 7:15Speaker 2: to do for Southwest Delta or not Delta United American
- 7:19Speaker 2: Southwest was to pull the few and all they had
- 7:22Speaker 2: was a few of those Boeing Max airplanes out of
- 7:25Speaker 2: service until they found out what was going on. It
- 7:27Speaker 2: represented like less than five percent of their fleet, and
- 7:30Speaker 2: the airlines opted not to do it, even when the
- 7:32Speaker 2: FA at the time wasn't going to ground that airplane.
- 7:34Speaker 2: But here again we've got a situation of Boeing be
- 7:38Speaker 2: more aware of something, communicating that to the airlines and
- 7:41Speaker 2: trying to downplay it and sadly, we had a loss
- 7:45Speaker 2: of life, horrific loss of life in Louisville.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Obviously, it's been suggested, I think of Hollywood movies that
- 7:51Speaker 1: you know, manufacturers will do a cost benefit analysis. Well,
- 7:55Speaker 1: of the million widgets we've got in the world, we
- 7:57Speaker 1: found that this defect may result in five people dying
- 8:01Speaker 1: it to replace it or fix the widge. It's going
- 8:03Speaker 1: to cost us X millions of dollars. If we just
- 8:05Speaker 1: ignore it and pay off the individual claim, we're going
- 8:07Speaker 1: to be a lot better off financially. Do you think
- 8:09Speaker 1: that type of analysis was actually done when they decided
- 8:12Speaker 1: not to go down the road of inspecting these particular parts. Man,
- 8:15Speaker 1: we may get one fall out of the sky, but
- 8:18Speaker 1: in the final analysis, it'll cost us a hell of
- 8:19Speaker 1: a lot more to stay up on top of this
- 8:21Speaker 1: and ahead of time.
- 8:22Speaker 2: I totally believe that, and I hate to say that,
- 8:25Speaker 2: but when you look at the history of recommendations made
- 8:28Speaker 2: by the National Transfertation Safety Board following every accident or
- 8:32Speaker 2: near accident, they'll give the Federal Aviation Administration bright a
- 8:35Speaker 2: list ten fifteen to twenty different items that they said, hey,
- 8:38Speaker 2: we identified these as either potential contributing causes or direct
- 8:43Speaker 2: contributing causes to this accident which resulted in a loss
- 8:46Speaker 2: of life, and here's our recommendations, topix it and if
- 8:49Speaker 2: the airlines then many times we'll push back on some
- 8:51Speaker 2: of those recommendations saying no, that would cost too much money,
- 8:55Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. And only a few, if any,
- 8:58Speaker 2: of those recommendations are ever care right forward. And it's
- 9:01Speaker 2: maddening when you think about it, because the NTSB's entire
- 9:05Speaker 2: purpose is to investigate the accident or air accident, come
- 9:09Speaker 2: up with the cause or contributing causes. Many times there's
- 9:13Speaker 2: far more than just one direct cause. But then they
- 9:17Speaker 2: list those recommendations on how we can make aviation safer.
- 9:20Speaker 2: And the reason that we've enjoyed the safest air era
- 9:22Speaker 2: of commercial jet travel leading up to this year or
- 9:26Speaker 2: last year with the January plane crash in DC and
- 9:29Speaker 2: then the Alaskan plane crash a month later, was because
- 9:33Speaker 2: of the fact that we've made such great strides and safety,
- 9:37Speaker 2: both in the type of equipment that's use on board
- 9:40Speaker 2: an airplane to make sure it's not it's fire retardant,
- 9:43Speaker 2: making sure certain seats and certain things are manufactured in
- 9:46Speaker 2: such a way that could better withstand a crash and
- 9:48Speaker 2: protect the people that are inside an airplane in the
- 9:51Speaker 2: event something you know, horrific happens. And it's all because
- 9:55Speaker 2: of those recommendations. I remember the Common Air crash, or
- 9:58Speaker 2: the Cincinnati crash we had with Air Canada back in
- 10:01Speaker 2: the early eighties that caught on fire and had land
- 10:04Speaker 2: at Cincinnati. The National Transportation Safety Board, I think, came
- 10:08Speaker 2: out with twenty some recommendations, and one of them was
- 10:11Speaker 2: to have those lights along the floor that would lead
- 10:14Speaker 2: you to an exit in the event that the cabin
- 10:19Speaker 2: was filled with smoke, you got disoriented, didn't know which
- 10:22Speaker 2: way to go. That was one of the many recommendations
- 10:24Speaker 2: made by the NTSB as a direct result of that
- 10:28Speaker 2: Air Canada crash that we had here in Cincinnati. So
- 10:31Speaker 2: the entire thing is set up to try to make
- 10:34Speaker 2: things safer, and that's one of the things that just
- 10:36Speaker 2: bothers me to no end when there's pushback on some
- 10:40Speaker 2: of these obvious safety related issues being put in and
- 10:43Speaker 2: to your point exactly, and that's the reason I love
- 10:46Speaker 2: talking to you, because you add that liability side to
- 10:51Speaker 2: the discussion and they say the exact same thing. That's
- 10:55Speaker 2: like airlines being told, Look, instead of having a black
- 10:57Speaker 2: box on an airplane, we could put up a component
- 11:00Speaker 2: on there that would be automatically transmitting all the black
- 11:04Speaker 2: box data really from the airplane to a central spot,
- 11:07Speaker 2: so that if an airplane crashed at see, we didn't
- 11:10Speaker 2: have to go looking for the black boxes. We knew
- 11:12Speaker 2: exactly what happened. The problem is the cost per aircraft
- 11:15Speaker 2: is more than one hundred thousand dollars, and when you
- 11:17Speaker 2: recognize most crashes happen on takeoff and landing over land
- 11:21Speaker 2: near an airport, the thought is, why would we spend
- 11:23Speaker 2: one hundred grand per airplane, tens of millions of dollars
- 11:27Speaker 2: for something that would only be used in a small
- 11:29Speaker 2: percentage of the of the accident. So it's an unfortunate discussion.
- 11:33Speaker 2: But once again you're spot on.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Jay, We're going to come up. Don't
- 11:37Speaker 1: get locked in the cargo compartment. I'm a little worried
- 11:39Speaker 1: about this other topic. TSA has increased the number of
- 11:42Speaker 1: airports with biometric pre check scanning that more with Jay
- 11:46Speaker 1: Rylov one more here fifty five K see the talk
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- 12:12Speaker 1: iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Rat Jay got a few more
- 12:17Speaker 1: topics here we can try to cram in there. I immediately,
- 12:19Speaker 1: of course, thought of you. Any aviation topic I run
- 12:21Speaker 1: across in my day to day preparation for the show,
- 12:24Speaker 1: it's obviously you. I think about this one I thought
- 12:26Speaker 1: was a kind of comical, although it would freak me
- 12:29Speaker 1: out if I was the employee that got locked in
- 12:31Speaker 1: the cargo compartment on a plane that was ready to
- 12:33Speaker 1: take off.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and it happens. It's happened several times. But this
- 12:39Speaker 2: was near Canada flight leaving Vancouver. They pushed back from
- 12:43Speaker 2: the gate, they're taxing for takeoff, when all of a sudden,
- 12:45Speaker 2: passengers start hearing this loud thump on the floor from underneath,
- 12:51Speaker 2: and they notify the flight attendants, and flight attentions obviously conclude, look,
- 12:55Speaker 2: we've got somebody in the cargo hold. Underneath this and
- 12:57Speaker 2: we're taxing for takeoff. Now, worst case scenario, had the
- 13:01Speaker 2: plane taken off that the forward of the forward cargo
- 13:04Speaker 2: compartment is pressurized, the person would not have been in
- 13:07Speaker 2: any immediate danger unless there was turbulence and bags are
- 13:11Speaker 2: flying and something happens like that. We've had people that
- 13:14Speaker 2: that's happened and they get to the next city and
- 13:16Speaker 2: you know, out they pop. But in this case, you're
- 13:19Speaker 2: still on the ground. So the crew decided to stop.
- 13:21Speaker 2: They turned back to the gate, and it's a security
- 13:24Speaker 2: issue as well, because you don't know if if it's
- 13:26Speaker 2: a stoleway, and how they got on the plane, and
- 13:29Speaker 2: so you've got security involved, and it's a process. So
- 13:32Speaker 2: they get back and they pop it, and sure enough
- 13:34Speaker 2: they find out that the person in there was an employee.
- 13:37Speaker 2: And the delay was such that the crew actually timed
- 13:40Speaker 2: out so they couldn't continue the flight. After that delay,
- 13:44Speaker 2: they had of another crew come in and take care
- 13:45Speaker 2: of them. So it really created a problem. The question
- 13:48Speaker 2: I keep getting is, Jay, how in the world would
- 13:50Speaker 2: that happen. Well, when you're on the ground working the ramp,
- 13:53Speaker 2: it's a very loud environment. People are wearing the ear
- 13:56Speaker 2: suppression headphones and things over there, so you don't hear
- 14:00Speaker 2: a lot, and the cargo compartment many times twenty thirty
- 14:04Speaker 2: feet deep, and you've got bags piled up all over
- 14:06Speaker 2: the place, and occasionally a passenger side not to fly,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and you grab somebody, say find this bag, because the
- 14:12Speaker 2: bag can't fly without the person. So in they go,
- 14:15Speaker 2: and it may be totally the other ramp agents may
- 14:18Speaker 2: be totally unaware of it that you've got somebody in there,
- 14:21Speaker 2: so before they close it, they might kind of give
- 14:23Speaker 2: it a cursory glance. Okay, nobody's in there, turn the
- 14:26Speaker 2: light out, drop the door, and off they go. And
- 14:28Speaker 2: of course, if you're buried in the bags trying to
- 14:31Speaker 2: find something, by the time you get back to the door,
- 14:33Speaker 2: nobody's going to hear you. And then off it goes.
- 14:35Speaker 2: There's no direct way for the agents to communicate with
- 14:38Speaker 2: the cockpit that hey, I'm still in here. So yeah,
- 14:41Speaker 2: it was a it was a scary situation for the individual.
- 14:45Speaker 2: We've had some agents get up there and they're waiting
- 14:47Speaker 2: for additional bags to arrive, they fall asleep and they
- 14:50Speaker 2: open another city. Oh yeah, yeah, you can google it.
- 14:53Speaker 2: There's been eight or ten instances over the last ten years.
- 14:56Speaker 2: I can think of where we've talked about it where
- 14:59Speaker 2: agents have gotten up there and gotten in there and
- 15:01Speaker 2: the door's been shut quickly and that plane goes it
- 15:05Speaker 2: takes off.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Unlike the idiots who get into the landing gear area
- 15:10Speaker 1: where they're exposed with no pressurization in sub zero temperatures.
- 15:14Speaker 1: That's not the case in.
- 15:15Speaker 2: The United Space limited.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Bagage compartment though, is it. I mean no, no, no, it's pressure.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Keep in mind behind the wing on some of the aircraft,
- 15:23Speaker 2: that particular cargo compartment many times is not pressurized and
- 15:28Speaker 2: you could be dealing with UH temperatures that could approach
- 15:32Speaker 2: hypothermia type level. So that's always a concern in the rear.
- 15:36Speaker 2: But this was up in the forward compartment where you
- 15:39Speaker 2: put the animals and in everything that are going to
- 15:41Speaker 2: be traveling as cargo, UH and baggage. So yeah, there
- 15:45Speaker 2: was Again wasn't any direct situation there, but as far
- 15:49Speaker 2: as you know, somebody getting hurt, but yeah, imagine being
- 15:52Speaker 2: on there and you hear this thumping coming from underneath
- 15:54Speaker 2: your feet. You'd have no idea what was going on.
- 15:57Speaker 1: All right, at the risk of not being able to
- 15:58Speaker 1: get to a legion buying Sun Country you for one
- 16:00Speaker 1: point five billion. What's this? TSA increasing biometric PreCheck scanning.
- 16:06Speaker 2: It's a program that allows travelers in the pre check
- 16:09Speaker 2: line to use biometric scans of our faces during the
- 16:12Speaker 2: airport security check in. It would allow us to keep
- 16:16Speaker 2: our driver's license or passports in our pocket. You can
- 16:19Speaker 2: sign up for once you're a member of pre check,
- 16:21Speaker 2: you can have this scan where you can have your
- 16:25Speaker 2: facial scan done so that you can basically zip through
- 16:29Speaker 2: the security checkpoints on a prim at all. The TSA
- 16:31Speaker 2: has this at twenty airports already. They're increasing this to
- 16:35Speaker 2: forty five including Cincinnati this spring. And again it's optional,
- 16:39Speaker 2: you don't have to do it, but it's a step
- 16:41Speaker 2: in that same progression that you and I've talked about
- 16:43Speaker 2: before where we've got a lot of individuals or achieving
- 16:46Speaker 2: a lot of airlines that are looking at using facial
- 16:48Speaker 2: recognition at the ticket counter where you can pop up,
- 16:51Speaker 2: have your face scan three seconds, boom at you tag
- 16:54Speaker 2: the bags, off you go. It speeds up the process.
- 16:56Speaker 2: You're going to use it. The TSA more and more
- 16:59Speaker 2: airlines that they are also going to use this as
- 17:01Speaker 2: well as far as proving who we are before we
- 17:04Speaker 2: board an airplane. It's also going to allow them to
- 17:06Speaker 2: reduce the head count at a lot of these stations
- 17:09Speaker 2: as well, which is the ultimate drive here, is to
- 17:11Speaker 2: use artificial intelligence to reduce the operating expenses. They're going
- 17:15Speaker 2: to sell it to us as increase safety, more customer service,
- 17:19Speaker 2: blah blah blah. None of that's the case, while some
- 17:21Speaker 2: of it is, but the biggest thing is to help
- 17:24Speaker 2: the airlines reduce their costs by relying more on that.
- 17:26Speaker 2: And people that don't want to be involved in this
- 17:28Speaker 2: brant they don't have to. You can opt out of it.
- 17:30Speaker 2: It's not a big issue. But for those that do,
- 17:33Speaker 2: it's going to be a way to kind of speed
- 17:34Speaker 2: you through the securining process. And I certainly think that's
- 17:37Speaker 2: a good idea. Look, they've already got my face somewhere
- 17:40Speaker 2: right Well, you walk into a casino, they've got your face.
- 17:45Speaker 1: I was just going to say, you've got acknowledge that
- 17:48Speaker 1: whether or not you like this idea, it's really happening
- 17:51Speaker 1: around you all the time.
- 17:53Speaker 2: You go to a sporting event, you go to an airport,
- 17:55Speaker 2: you go again to a casine. It's there they use
- 17:58Speaker 2: this constantly as a threat assessment when they've got an
- 18:01Speaker 2: event going on. So the idea that you know we're
- 18:04Speaker 2: not going to be a part of it, well we
- 18:05Speaker 2: kind of already are if we live anywhere near these places.
- 18:08Speaker 2: It's like people running into a casino or an airport saying, look,
- 18:11Speaker 2: i'll get away from you know where nobody can see me. Well,
- 18:14Speaker 2: you you're walking into a b' like going into a bank.
- 18:16Speaker 2: You know nobody's gonna see me here.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Yeah, right, all right, Well let's go directly since we're
- 18:22Speaker 1: out of time. Hub delays. How's it looking out there
- 18:24Speaker 1: for air travel?
- 18:25Speaker 2: Jay, ratlift Minneapolis is going to be one at Boston
- 18:28Speaker 2: as well, let us know, but it's leaving most of
- 18:30Speaker 2: the hubs alone. So I think it's going to be
- 18:32Speaker 2: a day of minimal delays. So probably some de icing
- 18:35Speaker 2: quick delays as you depart today, but all in all,
- 18:38Speaker 2: should be a pretty good day to fly.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe, always a distinct pleasure to have you on
- 18:42Speaker 1: the fifty five Cascene Morning show. Love the topics, love
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- 18:53Speaker 1: as always best to health and love to you and
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- 18:56Speaker 2: Rattlift appreciate that, my friend.
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